November 22, 2024 • 54 mins
In this episode we explore a Past Life Regression Session. There are several spiritual traditions that believe that a soul or an aspect of an individual is reborn or reincarnated throughout several lifetimes. During a Regression Session, the participant accesses past lives in order to gain insight and information that may be useful to them in this lifetime. Connecting to their past lives, clients can work to release habits, fears, or other burdens they may be carrying from lifetime to lifetime.
Mark Mezadourian is an intuitive that specializes in connecting with angels and guides. His work encompasses the core of all spiritual traditions – peace and love – and helps people realize their dreams and live a fulfilling life. The goal of his work is to access spirituality from a heart-centered yet practical perspective, and put it into action. Sessions and workshops focus on allowing a connection with angels and guides to be fluid and familiar through technique so that we can create the conditions to live as our authentic and unique selves while we grow, excel and share our gifts with the world.
Our willing participant, Nels is in an architect focused on the intersection of regenerative design, food and hospitality. His interest in the spiritual comes from his religious upbringing and subsequent search to understand reality from a non-religious, agnostic and sometimes atheistic standpoint.
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Mark (00:05):
What past lives can help illuminate our themes and
patterns, the themes andpatterns that are perhaps
present for us now, or thingsthat keep reoccurring.
But in those past lives, we willactivate in your DNA now, all
that's positive and powerful.
And we will deactivate or turnoff the light switch on anything
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that's not serving you.
Krista (00:27):
Welcome to the Beginner's Guide to the Third
Eye, the podcast that delvesinto the profound realms of
spiritual experiences, exploringthe dedicated practitioners and
various modalities that guide uson our transformative path.
Together, we will explore themystical, the magical, the
enlightened, and the sacred.
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In each episode, we pairseasoned practitioners,
spiritual experiences, orhealing modalities, and a
willing participant to sharetheir experience in working
together.
We will explore the uniqueinsights, stories, and wisdom
gained from their own profoundjourneys, unveiling the
extraordinary narratives thatshape spiritual seekers and
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practitioners alike.
My name is Krista Rauschenbergand my work as a healer has
emerged from hundreds of hoursof certified training, spiritual
initiations, direct experience,and deep personal work.
I have been employed in thehealing arts as a postpartum
doula, an advanced Akashicreader, an Akashic breathwork
practitioner, and a writer.
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Facilitating and educatingpeople through their personal,
spiritual, and healing journeysis my greatest source of
happiness.
El (01:38):
And I'm Elle Larson.
I use sound and space to helpbalance internal and external
environments.
I've practiced holistic healingmodalities for over 20 years,
and my work includes Tibetanbull sound healing, feng shui,
reiki, and shamanism.
Krista (01:51):
Welcome once again to The Beginner's Guide to the
Third Eye where we demystify themystical.
El (01:57):
hi everyone.
Thanks for joining us I'mexcited to introduce today's
show where we'll share theprocess of a past life
regression.
If you're not familiar with pastlives, there are several
spiritual traditions around theworld that believe that a soul
or an aspect of an individual isreborn throughout several
lifetimes.
This process is calledreincarnation or rebirth after
death, and the term past livesrefers to incarnations prior to
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the current one.
During a regression, theparticipant accesses past lives,
frequently their own, in orderto gain insight and information
that may be useful to them inthis lifetime.
While connecting to a past life,they can also work to release
habits, fears, or other burdensthey may be carrying from
lifetime to lifetime.
Past life regressions can be aneffective way to look into
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patterns and relationships, lifechallenges, blocks, and other
aspects of our lives that mayfeel deeply ingrained, but we
have trouble explaining how orwhy.
let's meet our guest for today'sregression session.
Our practitioner is MarkMazadorian, an intuitive who
specializes in connecting withangels and guides.
And our willing participant isNels Long, who is an architect
in Northern California.
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Welcome gentlemen.
Krista and I are so happy tohave you.
So Mark, we'd like to set up theconversation by knowing a little
bit more about you, your workand your process.
Can you tell us a little bitabout your practice?
Mark (03:17):
Sure.
I come from a family that'snaturally intuitive, especially
on my mother's side.
And my grandmother's, mymother's side, grandmother's
side, my grandmother wentthrough the Armenian genocide.
And she was six when her threebrothers were killed.
And when we have childhoodtrauma, the commonality is that
we have more resources, and ourresources are vast, and our
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capacity becomes enormous, whichcan usually venture into some
hyper vigilance, but it alsocreates a space of having a lot
of resources, and seeking thingsout.
And knowing what's true andwhat's not.
So being raised in a family thathad that hypervigilance, and
having, stuff happen when I wasa kid, I was a sensitive kid and
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it led to a space where I knewthere was something greater in
the world and it was alwaysrandom.
And when I was 30, I had ananxiety attack.
in 1997, my grandmother died,that happened in February that
year, and I started working alsoin February at the Oregon
Shakespeare Festival and workedsix days a week for 12 hours a
day, and didn't processanything.
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So I got on this trip to Europe,and I started to have all these
spiritual experiences.
That were quite profound.
And I come back from that tripand I left my apartment in the
care of a couple who I knew.
And I didn't know this until Icame back.
They broke up the day after Ileft and the woman went on a
heroin binge in my apartment.
And essentially destroyed it.
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So I kicked her out.
And a couple of days later hadan anxiety attack it was bad.
So I did some things, and somespiritual things, and I didn't
know what to do, but there was adark energy in my apartment, and
I didn't know what to do withit.
So I was doing things likeplaying a Gregorian chant CD on
repeat, I was staying at mygirlfriend's place, I would just
go there to shower and change,but it felt awful.
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And a friend of a friend, a guynamed Randall Stewart, who I
still know, he told me what todo, none of which I would do
now.
He had me play Citrus.
in the middle of each room andsea salt in each corner.
And he said, you need to reclaimyour home.
And in that my mother suggested,why don't you call an Archangel
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Michael?
So I did.
I ended up with fury, yellingget the bleep out of my
apartment, and I was screamingthat my apartment had a long
hallway.
I was in the bedroom at thecorner of my eye and saw like
this big black bear thing.
In the living room and I washolding a glass of citrus and I
threw the glass bowl down thelong hallway.
It landed perfectly in thecenter of the living room.
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The toilet flushed and it wasgone.
Krista (05:58):
Wow.
Mark (05:59):
So that worked.
And my question was what workedwhat worked?
And I went to work and I camehome and the electronics were
back on.
So this got my attention.
And What that prompted wasgetting in touch with the
angels.
And I started this pattern of,you know, in angel numerology,
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four, four, four is kind of likea wave.
And I would wake up at four 44every morning on the digital
clock and just started gettingto emcee that on license plates.
So I recognized with the anxietyattack that what I was doing
wasn't working, and that theworld had to get bigger.
And working at a Shakespearefestival, I was gratefully
surrounded by really wisepeople, and much older people,
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and they helped me out.
In rebooting my life, it waslike, okay, what do they have to
say to me?
What do they say?
Not, what do I think?
What is written about them?
What do they say?
And just kept gettingsynchronicities, acts of grace,
and making my world bigger.
And that just continued.
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That's the basic origin story.
I started working with an EMDRtherapist who was quite
brilliant and very spiritual.
And doing EMDR let me see whatwas in my psyche,
Krista (07:14):
what
Mark (07:15):
was actually there, which was horrifying.
And so learning where we hold onto things, how we hold on to
things, and also what actuallyworks to help heal.
All those things happened in ashort period of time.
In that time also, I started tolearn, technique wise, how to,
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do readings, how to clearenergy, and all these different
techniques.
And I started to assimilatethem, and I discovered that it
was easy for me to read forother people, that it was easy
to tune in, what do they say,thank you angels for the perfect
guidance for Krista.
And what do they say?
And also this language fromexperience, but also being able
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to report what they say that hada lot of flow to it.
Krista (08:01):
How long ago was that
Mark (08:03):
98, 1998.
So that's 25 years.
Krista (08:05):
And then you said you learned how to read for people
and clear energy where youtaught that from another human
or are you self taught
Mark (08:14):
Both i learned the technique from different people
and it was actually quite simpleof what is actually here for
people like what is here andalso this is where theater work
came in terms of in theater,especially directing or acting
is rather than what's beingsaid, what is actually
happening?
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What is it?
What is the action?
What is the intention?
What is the objective?
And in encountering people in areading, it's this, I'm not sure
I'm in the process of.
I'm not sure I'm in the processof.
Seeing using that muscle, likewhat, what was actually here for
this human being?
And also from my own experienceis recognizing what doesn't
work.
Like Don't tell people what todo.
Or, you know, could, would,should.
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None of that taking that off thetable.
Krista (08:58):
Going back to what you said about growing up with
intuitive family members, howthat communicated.
How is that utilized was beingan intuitive something that they
proudly spoke about?
Because a lot of our messagingcomes from family of origin and
from our youth.
So was it advocated?
Was it acceptable?
Even utilized in your childhood?
Mark (09:22):
It was a given.
It was an accepted andintegrated part.
It just wasn't made a big dealof my grandmother, Sarah she
would read coffee grinds, andstuff like that.
But it was always there when thephone would ring, I would know
who it was, that kind of stuff,if, I went to the store and
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someone forgot to tell me getbutter, I would get butter, that
kind of stuff, so it was justnaturally there.
It wasn't talked about was it abig deal, but it was just there.
Krista (09:51):
Did that then enable you to make your arc easier, would
you say?
Mark (09:58):
So randomness seems to have perhaps a big role in a lot
of people's spiritualexperience.
Like, Whoa, that was random.
That happened.
And if it's not random, if it'sthe opposite of that, if there's
no coincidence.
And we see the myriad of waysthat the universe is reaching
out to us and the elegance ofthat communication and to the
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elegance and the intelligence ofit of there's a, we're
constantly being communicatedwith, we can't constantly tune
into that because that drives usnuts.
But if we just noticed Hey,thanks.
I see that.
Thank you.
Thank you for playing that songagain on the radio.
Thank you.
I heard it this time.
Krista (10:38):
I'm really interested in the process for you in terms of
how the information comesthrough and how you're able to
differentiate.
Who's saying what?
Is it a feeling in your body?
Are you able to see it, audiblyhear it?
How does it work?
Technically speaking,
Mark (10:57):
The practice that I have, which is for me to get out of
the way as much as possible andto report what is happening.
And also to work with a varietyof guides, not just one, but
angels, goddesses, guides.
So it's like seeing everyone isavailable.
My grandmother, when she died,would come forward.
And just being open to receivemessages.
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And that's my goal infacilitating a session with
people or with group work, is tohave the intimacy of this
connection be highly accessible.
We're all hardwired forintuition.
And it's those four main waysand kind of two subsets, which
is seeing, hearing, knowing, andfeeling, and also smell and
taste.
Knowing is overwhelmingly easy.
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The main way I receive.
El (11:43):
These are essentially the Claires, right?
Yeah.
The Claires, their sentienceClair audience clairvoyance.
Would you mind just explainingthat a Sure.
Mark (11:51):
I'm speaking of Clear Cognizance, which is clear
knowing, and it is like acomplete download.
into the heart to the degreewhere I will see things and know
things.
So we also have clairvoyance,which is clear seeing, which is
mainly in your mind's eye, asopposed to your physical eyes.
Clear audience, which ishearing, which could be songs or
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sounds.
Or words and also clearclairsentience which is feeling.
So we all have all those.
Most people mainly have thefeeling.
You walk into a room, you feelgood or bad.
You shake someone's hand, youfeel good or bad.
All this is driven withtechnique ultimately.
So you'll hear in.
The recording I did with Nels ofthank you, Mother, Father, God,
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thank you, Archangels andAscended Masters for the perfect
guidance, perfect clarity,perfect healing that is here for
Nels right now.
We're stuck in the deck there.
That's very specific.
So we're not talking to the deadguy who died in 1973 at the bar
down the street.
That's off the table.
So it's not random, it's veryspecific.
I think the best analogy isbefore we had smartphones and
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cordless phones and phones withcaller ID, where the phone would
ring and you knew who it was.
It's that.
Like I knew my grandmother wascalling.
There was a certain ring to it.
It's the dexterity of what isArchangel Michael what does he
feel like?
And very simply, how Unique anddistinct, Krista, Elle, and
Nels, and Mark are.
It's, the guides are thatdistinct.
Krista (13:18):
So what does Archangel Michael feel like?
Mark (13:20):
He comes forward often with a lot of height and
presence.
Krista (13:24):
Like
Mark (13:24):
a very reassuring friend.
He is like Superman.
So there's a sense of thistitanic presence.
in the room and friendliness.
I think it's worth reallylanding the point here that
everyone can do this.
And this is the whole point.
Everyone can do this.
And it does coming back toaffinity, like what, who
resonates with you.
And if we're opening the door toworking with the best possible
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guides, let's say for Nells, andit's just having that dexterity
like, oh there's ArchangelGabriel, there's Archangel
Uriel, and understanding them.
And that just comes fromexperience, but anyone can say,
Archangel Michael for being withme.
And to just very simply noticewhat happens rather than
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project, oh he's going to beblue, or he's going to be 10
feet tall.
Krista (14:12):
You also mentioned during your session with Nels
that one of our core wounds isirrelevance, which would lend
itself to it's out there.
Guidance is out there.
You may not be good enough oryou may not matter enough, which
I think speaks to what you'resaying about it not being
available to us.
Correct?
Mark (14:32):
Yeah.
We're repeatedly told that wesuck and we don't suck.
This gets into worthiness of whocould talk to an angel.
There's all these rules, wecould all talk to angels.
But this idea that we are notworthy, that other people know
more than we do all these add upto an absence of empowerment or
agency.
El (14:53):
So Nels.
so much.
You're an architect, based inNorthern California and as an
architect, would you agree thatyou're analytical, you're
perceptive, maybe you'resomewhat type A personality
wise?
Nels (15:06):
Yeah, probably to a fault.
El (15:07):
Could you tell us a little bit about yourself?
Describe yourself?
Nels (15:10):
Um, I'm a person that thinks of myself as incredibly
detail oriented and lovesorganizing things.
Okay.
Very much of a control freak, Idon't really like anybody else,
getting to tell me how thingsget done or how things should be
done or like, you know, like Icook dinner because like you cut
an onion a certain way, likethose kinds of things.
(15:32):
And that translates into my workto a certain extent um, Mark
mentioned that the intent of oursession was communication.
And the reason for that is I'vebeen.
I'm struggling with somepersonalities at work where,
type a means type a, and we'reboth control freaks and we both
think that things should be donevery specific way.
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And sometimes it differs thatspecific way.
You're right.
Yeah, that's, it's somethingthat I'm definitely aware of
something I'm working on.
It's hard to take a step backand understand.
I don't want to use the wordcharacter flaws, but character
traits that, are not necessarilyharmonious with others all of
the time,
El (16:09):
and as far as like your spiritual practices, how would
you describe that?
Have you ever done anything likethis before?
Nels (16:15):
Like this, no getting into meditation and getting into kind
of more of a spiritual ness butultimately just leaving that and
just saying, it's what I believein is what is physical, what I
can pick up, what I can buildwith.
I'm an architect.
I draw things that get built outof stone and steel and wood.
And that's my language that Ispeak really clearly.
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And it's just been.
recent, maybe the last fiveyears or so that I started to
understand that there's more toreality than the physical
materials around us.
And that doesn't necessarilyhave to be going to church.
It doesn't have to besubscribing to a methodology or
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a philosophy and it can bepersonal and you don't have to
talk about it with people.
You can if you want to,obviously, but.
El (17:09):
And what expectations did you have of the session?
Like the process, the outcome?
Nels (17:14):
I listened to it.
well Known podcast on paranormaland supernatural stuff.
And every time a regressioncomes up the person experiencing
the regression was always anEgyptian temple whore.
And so I'm just like I guess I'mgoing to find out if I was an
Egyptian temple whore, so thatwas just a joke, but I live a
vanilla lifestyle, and so justbeing offered.
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This opportunity was exciting.
And then there was immediatelythe, a little bit of anxiety
about, loss of control, givingin, giving up that kind of.
Carefully crafted, image that Iportrayed in the world was a,
cause for a little bit ofanxiety, kind of allowing that
unconscious to be literallybroadcast.
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But I suspended disbelief aroundthe process itself and just
allowed it to happen.
I wouldn't say that I was,Trying to get anything in
particular out of it.
I was just letting it happen.
Other than one spiritualencounter when I was a child
that was a Very kind of physicalspiritual encounter.
I got in a pretty seriousbicycle accident.
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And actually felt a hand on myface and then healed three days
later The skin was gone on thisside of my face like gone And
then it was just back in a weekso I mean that was weird, that
was an anomaly that's not like aIs that something that happened
every couple months, you knowthroughout?
But other than that, like Iwouldn't say I had any like
strong spiritual encounters andso just allowing this experience
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to unfold
El (18:46):
So Mark do you work with somebody who is from a very
specific religious tradition whodoesn't identify at all with
angels, Mary, Jesus, when that'swhat you work with for your
practice.
Mark (18:59):
I implicitly trust who comes forward and that it's with
purpose.
And this comes back to theprayer.
So if I'm working with someoneone on one, let that guide be a
guide.
Let's not associate him with anyfaith.
And the same would be true ofMother Mary or Lakshmi, but just
recognizing these are freeagents.
that they are powerful andpalpable guides.
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Let's let the guides be currentwith us.
A question is what does Jesuswant us to know now?
Now, what did he say in thepast?
What does Mother Mary want us toknow now?
What does Ganesh want us to knownow?
And that leads us to the, thisimmediate moment.
So if I'm doing a session withsomeone, usually they'll tell me
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pretty rapidly or ascertainreally rapidly, like where they
are faith wise.
And I often ask in a one on onesession do you have guides that
you work with?
Do you have goddesses or guidesor angels that you really have
an affinity for?
What actually works in healingis if I'm in judgment or if I'm
saying, no, it's got to go thisway.
And this happened with thissession with Nels.
There's a technique of noticingthe feet.
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That's not what worked, so it'sjust being open he accessed the
different lives throughenvironment.
Thank you.
It's just being open andreceptive like what's actually
happening right now in thisexchange with this individual
and to listen and to be curious.
El (20:17):
And that brings in being a channel.
So when you're saying, get outof the way, and Krista I'm sure
you notice this in your work andI certainly do in mine, you have
to let your preconceived notionsaside.
so much.
And let come through what'scoming through and not try to
color or taint that maybe youtry to direct it so it's more
receivable for the other person.
Yeah.
Mark (20:37):
To get your thumb off the scale.
Nels (20:39):
Yeah.
I just jump in there.
I've been thinking a lot aboutthe session since last week.
One of the things that I keepcoming back to L is a phrase
that you used when we weretalking after about where you
allow consciousness to interruptthe unconscious process.
And Mark your phrase of takingyour thumb off the scales just
brought me back to that.
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L knows me as Someone who'sparticipated in storytelling in
the past and there's maybe notso much in the moment, but in
reflection, it's am I telling astory?
Am I getting in the way, likelooking forward to the next part
in the narrative arc?
Or am I like allowing that tonaturally come through?
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And I found like that.
Honestly is my biggest takeawayfrom the experience was how much
am I allowing that process tojust be a process and how much
am I trying to control it to besomething that I maybe wanted it
to be in the moment.
Krista (21:35):
Are you essentially saying how much did you
intellectualize it and how muchdid you actually have the
experience of it?
Nels (21:41):
Yeah, like how much was it like an unconscious experience
and how much of it was like myconscious kind of filling in
gaps.
Yeah.
Krista (21:48):
So how much of it can you relate to feeling the
sensation of it, not thethinking, but the feeling.
Did you have any takeaways thatwere truly feeling?
Nels (21:59):
There was definitely a lot of emotion.
El (22:01):
And that's what struck me.
Nels, when we were interactingafter your session, you were
relaying these things and you'relike, yeah, I don't know how
much of it was my consciousmind, just making it up but what
you were saying around it, I waslike, that's very poignant.
And that hit him on a corelevel, and this might be
starting to go a little bit of atangent, but I think it's also
relevant is with all of life,there's a wrapper around things,
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right?
So maybe there's this aestheticlayer that you wrapped around
it, but this core experience,this emotion that's what's
valuable.
That's like the lesson.
So I don't know, Mark.
Mark (22:30):
No.
This is all incredibly relevant.
I think I neglected to say thisto you, Nelso, before we worked,
which is you're gonna feel likeyou're making it up, and you're
not.
Let's say going into fourdifferent past lives like we
did.
There's a lot of symbology inthose.
And just seeing how we do work.
In our psyche, in our emotions,in our consciousness, in our
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cells, in our soul witharchetypes, with symbology, and
that there is a story in these,and that story does have a
beginning, a middle, and an end.
And this is the way we processthings, and we don't need to
know every single detail thathappens in that.
But there is an elegance to howthese things come forward.
And the goal in the work as wedid is to notice what's
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happening to perhaps get a senseof what happens and to activate
the good and to release thenegative.
A poignant moment is in thefirst lifetime when, there was
the boy who got a practice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That they died.
This kid died.
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I think a lot of spiritualdynamics would want to explore
how did he die?
What happened there?
And that's irrelevant.
Why get into a trauma?
The information was there.
You knew, and you said, I thinkyour wording was, they didn't
make it.
That's all the informationneeded there.
If we then extrapolate that,what I know to be true, so that,
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that's a trauma.
This kid had dread.
And then it didn't work out.
He was right.
So we're going to activatepositively his intuition, which
was accurate.
And let's just notice.
that you are safe right whereyou are physically.
We're just going to go into abit of a non physical space, but
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you are safe and wellmaintaining that space.
So if we could just breathe in,and whether you see it, feel it,
hear it, or know it, we'llnotice you and Archangel Michael
standing at the beginning of along, ornate marble hallway.
Perhaps a very beautiful andancient space where everything
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is possible and into this space,so very simply, if you could
just repeat after me, thank you,Archangel Michael, for being my
guide.
Nels (24:50):
Thank you, Archangel Michael, for being my guide.
Mark (24:53):
Into four different past lives.
Nels (24:55):
Into four different past lives.
Mark (24:57):
Connected with communication.
Nels (25:00):
Connected with communication.
Mark (25:02):
Wonderful.
So just breathe in.
And if you could just notice youand Archangel Michael beginning
to walk down that hallwaytogether, holding hands.
And here we'll do a countdown,and I'll just do the work here.
If we could just breathe in.
And five.
If we could just let ArchangelMichael do all the work.
Your job is very simply tonotice and just report.
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And another breath in.
And four.
And we'll let Archangel Michaelhave access to your cells, your
DNA, your heart center, yourAkashic records.
And three, another breath in,will very simply allow your
conscious mind to relax,allowing your physical body to
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relax, and knowing that
Nels (25:56):
you're noticing some smells, which is, some
Mark (25:58):
smells?
Yeah.
Cool.
What kind of smells are younoticing?
Nels (26:03):
It smells like stone, maybe sand, dust, you
Mark (26:06):
know?
Nels (26:08):
I'm maybe a cool sensation on the bottom of my feet.
Mark (26:12):
That's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
Great.
So we'll just trust the systemworks here, and that your senses
are engaged, your body isengaged.
That's great.
And we'll just keep countingdown here for a moment.
We'll just breathe in with two,and we'll feel like everything
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is already done, that there's abeautiful integration and
wonderful information, and theworld getting bigger in unique
and lovely ways.
So we'll just gently breatheinto all that, and we'll arrive
at a big breath at one, andwe'll very simply breathe in
here.
(26:55):
If you could just gently noticeyour feet, And just organically
notice if those are men's feet,women's feet, children's feet,
or a different kind of foot.
And just trust what you get.
Once again, it might be a flashor a little glimpse.
Nels (27:14):
It's a coolness underfoot.
Mark (27:15):
Okay.
Nels (27:16):
Feeling maybe hung up on the size of my feet, maybe more
than anything else.
Mark (27:20):
Okay.
What are you noticing there?
Are they huge feet?
Nels (27:23):
It's I'm, my mind is trying to.
Decide whether they're big orsmall.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Mark (27:31):
Why don't we just notice, we'll just take in that detail,
just notice with the coolnessunder your feet, what surface
are those feet on?
Nels (27:40):
Feels like stone.
Like marble inside.
Mark (27:43):
Okay, good deal.
Wonderful.
And is that indeed an interiorspace, or like a balcony, or a
hallway?
Nels (27:51):
Feels like the end of a hallway, maybe a balcony.
Okay.
Mark (27:54):
Wonderful.
Let's see if we could justbreathe into that.
And is that an ornate space or abeautiful space, or what's that
space like with the marble?
Nels (28:04):
Open, lots of air, lots of light.
Mark (28:06):
Okay, wonderful.
Let's just breathe in here for amoment.
Wonderful.
And let's just notice the beingwho you are, the person who's
perceiving that.
Let's just very simply justnotice, is that being alone, or
is there other people around?
Nels (28:22):
Okay,
Mark (28:25):
wonderful.
If we could just very simplyjust breathe in, and perhaps
just with a glance, just a verysimple glance, if we could just
notice that person's body, andwhat information comes forward,
just noticing that person'sbody.
I
Nels (28:46):
think it's It's a boy,
Mark (28:47):
maybe
Nels (28:49):
adolescent, early teens.
Mark (28:53):
Wonderful.
And what's he wearing?
Nels (28:56):
It felt like a robe.
Okay.
Maybe like linen or some sort ofnatural fiber.
Mark (29:02):
Okay.
Wonderful.
So we'll just breathe into allthat information, and if we
could just notice what thisperson is engaged with, how they
feel, are they happy, are theysad, are they anxious, are they
bored?
Anxious.
Anxious.
Good.
Let's just breathe into that.
(29:24):
Let's just gather informationand let Archangel Michael help.
What is this boy anxious about?
Nels (29:33):
Feels like maybe there's a change in his life.
Something that he is beingprepared for, that maybe he's,
maybe not sure that he's readyfor.
Okay.
Wonderful.
Mark (29:50):
Let's just breathe into that.
And let's just let, once again,Archangel Michael fast forward
to the next thing.
And what comes there?
Nels (30:00):
I think it's a journey.
Mark (30:01):
Horses
Nels (30:02):
and ships.
And not very far in the future.
Mark (30:08):
Okay.
Okay.
And what's his feeling aboutthis journey and the trip?
Nels (30:14):
Again, anxiety.
The sense of boredom, maybe.
Okay.
Feeling of something importantabout to happen, but this kind
of like time that it takes toget there.
Okay.
Mark (30:30):
Okay.
So let's just breathe in.
Great reporting.
Let's just notice the arrival.
Let's just notice the arrivaland what happens next.
Nels (30:40):
I'm feeling like maybe they didn't get there.
Yeah.
Mark (30:43):
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, so let's just notice wedon't need to know what happened
there.
We don't need to know.
This is the thing with pastlives.
We typically focus on doom anddread and been killed.
We just know that information isenough.
So let's just take in a breath.
So feel cool to you to not, wedon't need to dive into it.
(31:05):
So let's just take in a breath.
Let's very simply come back toholding Archangel Michael's
hand.
And we're going to let Michaelactivate all the good from that
young man's life, his sense ofself, his awareness of what he
wants, and also his powerfulintuition that he knew something
was up.
(31:26):
Let's very simply release, turnoff the light on being told what
to do.
Losing his autonomy and beingkilled, having a short life, and
we could perhaps just noticethat he wasn't able to speak up
for himself, be that throughcultural things or his age or
(31:47):
what was happening in his cityor village and anything
involving war.
So we'll just breathe in.
How does it feel to activatethat and to release that, Nels?
What do you feel in you?
Yeah, go ahead.
Nels (32:07):
I feel sad.
Mark (32:08):
Do you?
Okay.
I feel a
Nels (32:09):
little sad.
Yeah.
Okay.
Mark (32:11):
Let's just honor that sadness.
That's not fair.
It's not fair.
So we'll just breathe in.
And if we could very simply, ifwe see here, Nels, that, our
soul, this is from Brian Weisspast life expert, our soul is a
(32:32):
mirror ball.
It's mosaic.
So let's just notice you'resharing a lifetime with that
young man, and we honor him byyou living a good life, and
we're honoring him by connectingwith him right now.
And we ask, thank you, ArchangelMichael, for bringing relief to
that lifetime.
(32:52):
That Nels shares with his soul.
And how he died.
Doesn't matter.
It makes sense.
Like generically, we think thatpast lives is where we're going
to see ourselves, burned, hungmurdered all these bad things
happening.
And what about the power ofpositive past lives and
recognizing the fullness of ourexperience as souls.
(33:15):
and incarnations on this planet.
So that's a space in terms ofwhat, what can actually happen
for the individual.
And our intention wascommunication the theme, which I
believe we spoke about at theend, that the first three
lifetimes, essentially you hadno voice.
Krista (33:29):
Interesting.
Mark (33:31):
Oh and past lives reveal themes and patterns.
And then we get to make anadjustment based on the themes
and patterns that are revealedand get into a space of choice.
Does that resonate, Nels, forwhat we're talking about?
Nels (33:44):
Yeah, it does.
Mark (33:45):
And the main thing is, we think we're making it up, but
we're not.
When we do all the techniquethings, and past lives are a
very technique focused dynamic.
We just trust what comesforward.
So if our intention is, thankyou, Archangel Michael for
bringing forward four past livesfor NELS connected with
communication.
And that first one is what comesup where this kid had no voice
(34:07):
and he was right.
That's something to move.
That's something to change whereyou do have a voice, that you
are heard, you are seen.
And this is where true healinghappens.
We don't get hung up on thedetails, we get into the core
essence of what is beingrevealed in that one lifetime.
And then seeing that echo in thenext two, and the fourth one
(34:29):
being a completely differentspace.
Krista (34:32):
Nils, given your history, were you surprised at
all at how much you were able toreceive and or surrender to the
process?
Nels (34:41):
Yeah, I guess a little bit.
The stories came more easily,than I thought they would.
I knew going into it that Iwasn't going to look down and
see my feet change like that'sjust not the way that I perceive
things like L did a soundsession for me once and did a
little bit of journeying duringthat and I always.
(35:03):
experience like spaces first,probably because of the nature
of my work, I'm constantlyenvisioning space.
And so I tend to notice thosedetails, the type of light, the
texture of materials, that kindof thing.
But I guess I was surprised howquickly Those went from just the
(35:26):
normal conceptualizations ofspace that flow through my brain
every minute of every day tolike getting focused into
narrative arcs that thenelicited some emotion.
So that was pretty surprisingthat happened as easily as it
did.
Krista (35:40):
Did you have an experience where your normal
cognitive processes shifted intosomething where you're like
that's not me.
That's not how I normallyoperate.
Either through informationcoming in or a visualization.
Was anything within theexperience new to you or
different to you?
Nels (35:59):
Yeah, definitely.
And Mark, we actually didn'ttalk about this.
It was more of a reflection thathappened afterwards, but the
fourth life the one where I feltlike I was in utero and then
feeling compelled to ask aboutthis kind of phantom weight that
I have experienced occasionallyit just almost just feels like
there's something or someonethere sometimes, I think, I
(36:24):
don't know, it's impossible toprove one way or the other, but
I think I might have had a twinin utero.
And I every time I think aboutthat experience, I go, Oh maybe
that's what that is, and I'mcarrying some phantom connection
or something, I don't know, butthat was an idea that came not
from me, like I was in thatspace, and it was like, hello,
I'm here, that was prettyunexpected.
Mark (36:45):
I think, just quickly, that's profound.
And in our analytical minds,perhaps the analytical part is
irrelevant, and the experienceis what's important there.
And that's information and thefact that it resonates and it
has an echo of something you'veexperienced and felt your whole
life.
And that perhaps we got to shiftthat a bit or put it into a
(37:07):
context.
And thank you Archangel Michaelfor bringing forward a fourth
Past Life Connected withCommunication for NELS right
now.
We'll just breathe in.
What do you notice with thespace, with the atmosphere?
Nels (37:26):
very ethereal, having a hard time grasping at anything
physical.
Mark (37:30):
Okay.
And let's just trust it may meanthere may not be anything
physical.
Let's just breathe in.
And are you noticing that as anobservation or as an experience?
What'd you say?
Nels (37:43):
I'd say an experience.
Mark (37:44):
Okay, wonderful.
Let's just breathe in.
And what is the experience?
What are you feeling in thatetheric space?
Nels (37:54):
It's almost like energy flows moving.
Not really spiraling, butpassing back and forth.
Mark (38:02):
Fantastic.
Wonderful.
So we'll just gently breatheinto that.
And what else do you noticethere now?
Nels (38:12):
It's an incredibly empty space.
There's beauty in the empty,emptiness.
Mark (38:17):
If you could just notice, Is this an individual
experience, is this a groupconsciousness experience, or is
this everything one energy?
It's like a oneness experience.
Nels (38:29):
I almost feel like I'm inside of something, or someone,
or something like that.
Mark (38:34):
Okay.
Wonderful.
Let's just let Archangel Michaelilluminate anything that would
help.
Give it even more of a context,if it says trust the experience.
Nels (38:47):
I honestly feel like I'm in a womb.
Mark (38:49):
Do you?
Okay, wonderful.
So let's just breathe into that,and let's indeed just notice all
needs being met, and they'rebeing loved.
They're being loved here.
And you being wanted.
Did you have an additionalawareness or thought there,
Nels?
Nels (39:07):
It's a tangential thought, actually, but occasionally I'll
feel almost like a burden on myback when I don't have, it's
almost like a like a phantomburden.
And it's something that Inoticed, I can't remember the
first time I noticed it, butI've noticed it for much of my
life.
(39:28):
And as we are having thisexperience, my focus shifted to
that, and I just felt the urgeto acknowledge.
that.
Mark (39:40):
I appreciate you bringing that up.
Let's let, if you could just sayout loud, thank you Archangel
Michael for lifting the burdenoff of my back.
Nels (39:47):
Thank you Archangel Michael for lifting the burden
off of my back.
It's almost like a presence.
Yeah.
Between my shoulder blades.
Mark (39:57):
Okay.
Okay.
And how do you noticing that?
Is that you feel someone thereor you feel a hand there or
what's your experience?
Nels (40:06):
I feel something there.
Okay.
I don't know that it's a human.
Mark (40:11):
Okay.
Krista (40:13):
having a relationship to that, however, you want to
characterize it, sensationexperience can then lend itself
to you, creating a differentrelationship with that
experience and having more andmore.
Nels (40:28):
Maybe this is a subtle push to say it's okay to pray.
You don't have to, you don'thave to bless your food before
every meal.
You don't have to get down onyour knees at the edge of your
bed and hold a bible, but youknow you It's okay to Okay.
To pray.
It's okay to open up and releasesome control and say, I'm here,
(40:48):
I need help, or I'm here andjust wanna talk or whatever.
It's
El (40:54):
nels.
What was your experience duringthe session?
Nels (40:58):
It's, it started with this looking or waiting for something
to happen.
Is this going to happen?
And then just letting it.
Just letting it happen and justturning the volume down a little
bit and just Mark, I think youused the phrase reporting,
starting to not assign value toanything, I'm just copying words
(41:23):
from one page to the otherwithout really translating them,
pure transcription, notranslation.
And I think once I got intothat, Transcription mode is when
we started getting some contentstarting to come through, which
was, interesting because it's,that's a design process.
(41:44):
Like that's when I'm drawing,when I'm writing, when I'm
working, that's, you have tosilence that internal monologue
and just allow the creativity tocome out.
And there's a lot of work that Ihave done.
To try and enhance those flowstates.
And so it just felt like I wasentering a flow state in some
(42:05):
sense.
Krista (42:06):
Dare you say channeling?
Nels (42:12):
When I think of channeling, I think of automatic
writing.
And that feels like somethingvery different, but I guess it's
similar.
And then the experience itselfwas, emotional.
I mean, I was surprised at therange of emotions that I went
through from anxiety to fear to,love, excitement.
Connection and then this kind oflike super connection love at
(42:35):
the end not to just keep sayinglove over and over but Yeah, I
think the range of emotionpretty powerful pretty real.
Yeah
Mark (42:45):
Yeah, coming back to the core wound of insignificance or
isolation that in doing what wedid with Nels, my job as the
facilitator is to make sure thathe knows that he is not alone,
that I'm going to guide himthrough the whole thing and
that.
Giving a heads up, like what'sgoing to happen.
(43:06):
So that's a held space and inthe held space, he has room to
relax and just report and tohave an experience rather than
try to see what's happening.
So it's just allowing, and Ihonor you Nels for how well that
worked for you.
Just very simply, like what'sactually here, that's a held
(43:28):
space.
And it's important that we haveheld spaces.
Krista (43:32):
Nels, I would be interested in learning.
What, if anything you've noticedsince or any benefit that you.
have felt
Nels (43:40):
I think what it has done is reignited a fire around This
is something I should probablyspend more time on, and I don't
really know how or in what modethat manifests yet.
El (43:52):
Nels, in terms of your intention going into the
session, which was to work oncommunication, do you have any
takeaways to support concreteareas of your life?
Nels (44:01):
Short answer is yes.
I think formulating that into aresponse the first life, the
fear of missing out, the fear ofnot being able to accomplish
what has been set Out for you issomething I feel every day, it's
the kind of constant likeanxiety around you get one
(44:22):
chance to get it right, and Ithink maybe what the overall
experience has shared is don'tonly have one chance to get it
right.
Like you can back off a littlebit and allow it to just unfold
and practice that way and justlet it.
Let life be life and not reallytry to make it into what you
(44:44):
want it to be necessarily.
I have a cousin that, that toldme sometimes it's okay just to
wake up in the morning.
Sometimes it's okay just to bealive.
You don't really have to doanything.
Which was just like a slap inthe face, because for me, and my
life, and my career, and myfamily, I've got a to do list a
(45:05):
mile long, and I gotta getthrough that so I can get to the
next, because I've got toaccomplish this goal by this
time, and It's okay just to wakeup and do it again the next day,
and so while maybe theregression session didn't
actively speak to communication,I feel like my issues with
(45:26):
communication are rooted morein.
And anxiety and control andthose types of things, which
cloud judgment aroundcommunication.
And so in that sense, I do feellike there's some concrete
takeaway there.
Krista (45:40):
Because this is the beginner's guide.
Mark, I just have a couplequestions for you that I think
might relate to how people mightprocess this.
So is this a form of hypnosis?
Mark (45:52):
No.
You're right there.
And in, in your awareness in aheld space is just recognizing
the depth of your experience.
And so it gets to integrate.
And the whole point, rather thanmy telling Nels, Oh, you had
this life when you were a kidand you died at sea.
He gets to experience it.
And that's the space where theintegration happens and with the
(46:15):
very specific practice ofactivating the good and
releasing what's not serving himanymore.
That then instantly integrates.
Krista (46:22):
And then are you seeing what they're seeing or feeling
what they're feeling?
A bit.
Mark (46:26):
Yeah.
The power is in the personexperiencing it, having it.
In, in, in their vision, intheir body, in their mind, I
will have an awarenessintuitively of what they're
experiencing for sure.
I might be directed to aquestion or just very simply in
having done this hundreds oftimes that have a sense of what
(46:49):
he's experiencing.
Also very simply knows was veryexpressive.
I could see what was happening,just by paying attention to him.
Krista (46:56):
And it goes back to creating a space,
Mark (46:58):
creating a space, but just that.
That it's here.
It's not somewhere else thatit's here and it's here.
We get to integrate and changeand have the empowerment and
have the healing that happensright, in the moment.
Krista (47:12):
how do you balance your energy and what kinds of things
knock you out of alignment?
Mark (47:20):
Self care is non attachment.
Also being diligent with energyas an empath are naturally
inclined to take it all on, andit's doing the opposite.
So to have an intention for eachreading.
To decidedly clear energy beforeand after and to not hold on to
anything.
And that takes a while to learn,which doesn't mean that you
(47:42):
don't care, but to be completelynon attached to what comes
forward, especially if someone'sin crisis and to truly at the
core of the work is let's letthe angels handle that, let's
let the guides handle that.
And what interests me in this isthat the focus doesn't go to me.
(48:04):
The focus goes to the work sowhen people project toward me,
you're the one with theinformation, I'm just gonna,
detach from that, there'snothing I'm gonna hold on to
with that.
But to, in terms of self care,it is recognizing what is
actually happening and just tonot let any projection happen to
steer the conversation towardempowerment.
Also, just advocating for apeaceful planet.
(48:28):
And recognizing all the thingsthat are happening now that,
that are reactions to the energyof the planet having already
changed and that we are headingtoward a space where there's no
greed and no guns, you know,that, that is where we're
heading.
And this idea of the narrativeof unworthiness and
(48:49):
disempowerment vanishing, thatwe exist in a space where we
encourage each other and we'reactive generosity.
That's what it seems.
And great peace in that where weall tune in.
Krista (49:02):
Do you think we'll see that in our lifetimes?
Mark (49:04):
Absolutely.
Krista (49:06):
You do?
Mark (49:07):
I do.
I do.
And this is not like laspiritual talk if we witness
existing authority quote unquotepanicking, absolutely panicking,
which is why all theauthoritarianism and things like
that, all the rules We'rebreaking, it's like Neo and the
Matrix.
We're breaking through this ideaof who's in charge and everybody
wants peace and love and ourmethods are different.
(49:30):
And it's just seeing where, whynot advocate for what we want?
We're a world where everyone hastheir needs met and exceeded,
that there is enough foreveryone.
And as spiritual people, we areleading the way right now.
And anyone with a spiritualincarnation, we are leading the
way.
Most people are reallydistracted right now.
And in the narrative of thoseguys are in power, not you.
(49:54):
And if what has changed is thatit's no longer okay to be
unconscious.
If we are conscious and we haveintention and we do things like
work with acacia records orsound healing or sound baths.
or work with angels and guides,that we're all doing the same
thing, that we're making theworld bigger.
(50:15):
And it's recognizing thatbigness includes everyone.
And so this is informative interms of any narrative that gets
into an us and them, or youshouldn't like these people,
that we, can bypass that.
This said, let's be as spiritualas we possibly can and heal as
much as we can.
(50:35):
Let's do that.
And we have so many differentways to do it.
And keep growing.
And let's not worry about thepeople who maybe aren't ready to
change.
That's okay.
We're not going to make themwrong or bad, but we're going to
very simply notice we're leadingthe way.
We are creating a world withintention and vision and action
that everyone else will inhabit.
And the importance of healingour own stuff is that we know
(50:58):
how to do it.
Krista (50:59):
And
Mark (51:01):
so when others are ready to heal, we know what to do, but
it's all going to work out.
One of my favorite comedians,Bill Hicks he died in 94, but he
was into oneness and he had athing of the perfect world where
everything's worked out.
Hey, it's all going to work outyour sports.
Krista (51:22):
It's all going to work out.
Here's what
Mark (51:24):
Sports.
It's like a newscast, like thenews in the perfect world.
Sorry, I didn't set it up right.
Krista (51:29):
And
Mark (51:29):
the news in the perfect world is, hey, it's all going to
work out.
Here's sports.
Krista (51:38):
I love it.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much for your time.
You're welcome.
Is there anything you'd like toadd that you can think of?
Mark (51:50):
That it is all going to work out.
Krista (51:52):
Yeah.
And
Mark (51:52):
for real, like all the narratives are constrictive
right now.
Let's do the exact opposite andbe big.
Let's do the exact opposite.
I do honor both of you for doinga podcast that is designed to
help people.
And to meet them right wherethey are, and the value of being
able to articulate how thisactually works.
Krista (52:14):
We're showing roads.
We're showing pathways.
Mark (52:17):
Mostly we have podcasts where we talk about the work
around the show, and I thinkit's profound to show it and to
show what's possible.
And I honor Nels for a beingwilling and being to just to I
Nels (52:31):
just want to echo and say thank you for thinking of me
and, allowing me to do thisbecause, it's not something that
I would have sought out on myown, probably, and I think for a
lot of people on my walk oflife, it's not something that
maybe even people know exists.
Yeah, pretty special.
So thank you for that.
El (52:52):
And Mark, where can we find you?
And what are some of theservices that you provide in
addition to regression work?
Mark (52:58):
Through my website, markmezadorian.
com, the main thing that happensis connecting with angels and
guides and to see what they say.
Usually people come when there'ssomething happening, that
there's a prompt that we'lladdress that immediately.
And that if there's a crisis,we'll bring peace to it.
And if there's not a crisis,we'll bring peace and expansion.
The whole goal is to make theworld bigger and to to heal and
(53:22):
to let healing be simple andeasy and practical, and also to
have a strategy, to put thingsinto a context where there's a
strategy and action steps movingforward.
El (53:30):
Thank you guys so much.
We really appreciate all of yourtime.
This has been super informative.
Krista (53:36):
Thank you.
All right.
Bye.
Thanks.
Take
Mark (53:39):
care.
Bye.
Krista (53:41):
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What past lives can help illuminate our themes and
patterns, the themes andpatterns that are perhaps
present for us now, or thingsthat keep reoccurring.
But in those past lives, we willactivate in your DNA now, all
that's positive and powerful.
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I use sound and space to helpbalance internal and external
environments.
I've practiced holistic healingmodalities for over 20 years,
and my work includes Tibetanbull sound healing, feng shui,
reiki, and shamanism.
Krista (01:51):
Welcome once again to The Beginner's Guide to the
Third Eye where we demystify themystical.
El (01:57):
hi everyone.
Thanks for joining us I'mexcited to introduce today's
show where we'll share theprocess of a past life
regression.
If you're not familiar with pastlives, there are several
spiritual traditions around theworld that believe that a soul
or an aspect of an individual isreborn throughout several
lifetimes.
This process is calledreincarnation or rebirth after
death, and the term past livesrefers to incarnations prior to
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the current one.
During a regression, theparticipant accesses past lives,
frequently their own, in orderto gain insight and information
that may be useful to them inthis lifetime.
While connecting to a past life,they can also work to release
habits, fears, or other burdensthey may be carrying from
lifetime to lifetime.
Past life regressions can be aneffective way to look into
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patterns and relationships, lifechallenges, blocks, and other
aspects of our lives that mayfeel deeply ingrained, but we
have trouble explaining how orwhy.
let's meet our guest for today'sregression session.
Our practitioner is MarkMazadorian, an intuitive who
specializes in connecting withangels and guides.
And our willing participant isNels Long, who is an architect
in Northern California.
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Welcome gentlemen.
Krista and I are so happy tohave you.
So Mark, we'd like to set up theconversation by knowing a little
bit more about you, your workand your process.
Can you tell us a little bitabout your practice?
Mark (03:17):
Sure.
I come from a family that'snaturally intuitive, especially
on my mother's side.
And my grandmother's, mymother's side, grandmother's
side, my grandmother wentthrough the Armenian genocide.
And she was six when her threebrothers were killed.
And when we have childhoodtrauma, the commonality is that
we have more resources, and ourresources are vast, and our
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capacity becomes enormous, whichcan usually venture into some
hyper vigilance, but it alsocreates a space of having a lot
of resources, and seeking thingsout.
And knowing what's true andwhat's not.
So being raised in a family thathad that hypervigilance, and
having, stuff happen when I wasa kid, I was a sensitive kid and
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it led to a space where I knewthere was something greater in
the world and it was alwaysrandom.
And when I was 30, I had ananxiety attack.
in 1997, my grandmother died,that happened in February that
year, and I started working alsoin February at the Oregon
Shakespeare Festival and workedsix days a week for 12 hours a
day, and didn't processanything.
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So I got on this trip to Europe,and I started to have all these
spiritual experiences.
That were quite profound.
And I come back from that tripand I left my apartment in the
care of a couple who I knew.
And I didn't know this until Icame back.
They broke up the day after Ileft and the woman went on a
heroin binge in my apartment.
And essentially destroyed it.
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So I kicked her out.
And a couple of days later hadan anxiety attack it was bad.
So I did some things, and somespiritual things, and I didn't
know what to do, but there was adark energy in my apartment, and
I didn't know what to do withit.
So I was doing things likeplaying a Gregorian chant CD on
repeat, I was staying at mygirlfriend's place, I would just
go there to shower and change,but it felt awful.
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And a friend of a friend, a guynamed Randall Stewart, who I
still know, he told me what todo, none of which I would do
now.
He had me play Citrus.
in the middle of each room andsea salt in each corner.
And he said, you need to reclaimyour home.
And in that my mother suggested,why don't you call an Archangel
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Michael?
So I did.
I ended up with fury, yellingget the bleep out of my
apartment, and I was screamingthat my apartment had a long
hallway.
I was in the bedroom at thecorner of my eye and saw like
this big black bear thing.
In the living room and I washolding a glass of citrus and I
threw the glass bowl down thelong hallway.
It landed perfectly in thecenter of the living room.
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The toilet flushed and it wasgone.
Krista (05:58):
Wow.
Mark (05:59):
So that worked.
And my question was what workedwhat worked?
And I went to work and I camehome and the electronics were
back on.
So this got my attention.
And What that prompted wasgetting in touch with the
angels.
And I started this pattern of,you know, in angel numerology,
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four, four, four is kind of likea wave.
And I would wake up at four 44every morning on the digital
clock and just started gettingto emcee that on license plates.
So I recognized with the anxietyattack that what I was doing
wasn't working, and that theworld had to get bigger.
And working at a Shakespearefestival, I was gratefully
surrounded by really wisepeople, and much older people,
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and they helped me out.
In rebooting my life, it waslike, okay, what do they have to
say to me?
What do they say?
Not, what do I think?
What is written about them?
What do they say?
And just kept gettingsynchronicities, acts of grace,
and making my world bigger.
And that just continued.
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That's the basic origin story.
I started working with an EMDRtherapist who was quite
brilliant and very spiritual.
And doing EMDR let me see whatwas in my psyche,
Krista (07:14):
what
Mark (07:15):
was actually there, which was horrifying.
And so learning where we hold onto things, how we hold on to
things, and also what actuallyworks to help heal.
All those things happened in ashort period of time.
In that time also, I started tolearn, technique wise, how to,
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do readings, how to clearenergy, and all these different
techniques.
And I started to assimilatethem, and I discovered that it
was easy for me to read forother people, that it was easy
to tune in, what do they say,thank you angels for the perfect
guidance for Krista.
And what do they say?
And also this language fromexperience, but also being able
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to report what they say that hada lot of flow to it.
Krista (08:01):
How long ago was that
Mark (08:03):
98, 1998.
So that's 25 years.
Krista (08:05):
And then you said you learned how to read for people
and clear energy where youtaught that from another human
or are you self taught
Mark (08:14):
Both i learned the technique from different people
and it was actually quite simpleof what is actually here for
people like what is here andalso this is where theater work
came in terms of in theater,especially directing or acting
is rather than what's beingsaid, what is actually
happening?
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What is it?
What is the action?
What is the intention?
What is the objective?
And in encountering people in areading, it's this, I'm not sure
I'm in the process of.
I'm not sure I'm in the processof.
Seeing using that muscle, likewhat, what was actually here for
this human being?
And also from my own experienceis recognizing what doesn't
work.
Like Don't tell people what todo.
Or, you know, could, would,should.
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None of that taking that off thetable.
Krista (08:58):
Going back to what you said about growing up with
intuitive family members, howthat communicated.
How is that utilized was beingan intuitive something that they
proudly spoke about?
Because a lot of our messagingcomes from family of origin and
from our youth.
So was it advocated?
Was it acceptable?
Even utilized in your childhood?
Mark (09:22):
It was a given.
It was an accepted andintegrated part.
It just wasn't made a big dealof my grandmother, Sarah she
would read coffee grinds, andstuff like that.
But it was always there when thephone would ring, I would know
who it was, that kind of stuff,if, I went to the store and
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someone forgot to tell me getbutter, I would get butter, that
kind of stuff, so it was justnaturally there.
It wasn't talked about was it abig deal, but it was just there.
Krista (09:51):
Did that then enable you to make your arc easier, would
you say?
Mark (09:58):
So randomness seems to have perhaps a big role in a lot
of people's spiritualexperience.
Like, Whoa, that was random.
That happened.
And if it's not random, if it'sthe opposite of that, if there's
no coincidence.
And we see the myriad of waysthat the universe is reaching
out to us and the elegance ofthat communication and to the
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elegance and the intelligence ofit of there's a, we're
constantly being communicatedwith, we can't constantly tune
into that because that drives usnuts.
But if we just noticed Hey,thanks.
I see that.
Thank you.
Thank you for playing that songagain on the radio.
Thank you.
I heard it this time.
Krista (10:38):
I'm really interested in the process for you in terms of
how the information comesthrough and how you're able to
differentiate.
Who's saying what?
Is it a feeling in your body?
Are you able to see it, audiblyhear it?
How does it work?
Technically speaking,
Mark (10:57):
The practice that I have, which is for me to get out of
the way as much as possible andto report what is happening.
And also to work with a varietyof guides, not just one, but
angels, goddesses, guides.
So it's like seeing everyone isavailable.
My grandmother, when she died,would come forward.
And just being open to receivemessages.
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And that's my goal infacilitating a session with
people or with group work, is tohave the intimacy of this
connection be highly accessible.
We're all hardwired forintuition.
And it's those four main waysand kind of two subsets, which
is seeing, hearing, knowing, andfeeling, and also smell and
taste.
Knowing is overwhelmingly easy.
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The main way I receive.
El (11:43):
These are essentially the Claires, right?
Yeah.
The Claires, their sentienceClair audience clairvoyance.
Would you mind just explainingthat a Sure.
Mark (11:51):
I'm speaking of Clear Cognizance, which is clear
knowing, and it is like acomplete download.
into the heart to the degreewhere I will see things and know
things.
So we also have clairvoyance,which is clear seeing, which is
mainly in your mind's eye, asopposed to your physical eyes.
Clear audience, which ishearing, which could be songs or
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sounds.
Or words and also clearclairsentience which is feeling.
So we all have all those.
Most people mainly have thefeeling.
You walk into a room, you feelgood or bad.
You shake someone's hand, youfeel good or bad.
All this is driven withtechnique ultimately.
So you'll hear in.
The recording I did with Nels ofthank you, Mother, Father, God,
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thank you, Archangels andAscended Masters for the perfect
guidance, perfect clarity,perfect healing that is here for
Nels right now.
We're stuck in the deck there.
That's very specific.
So we're not talking to the deadguy who died in 1973 at the bar
down the street.
That's off the table.
So it's not random, it's veryspecific.
I think the best analogy isbefore we had smartphones and
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cordless phones and phones withcaller ID, where the phone would
ring and you knew who it was.
It's that.
Like I knew my grandmother wascalling.
There was a certain ring to it.
It's the dexterity of what isArchangel Michael what does he
feel like?
And very simply, how Unique anddistinct, Krista, Elle, and
Nels, and Mark are.
It's, the guides are thatdistinct.
Krista (13:18):
So what does Archangel Michael feel like?
Mark (13:20):
He comes forward often with a lot of height and
presence.
Krista (13:24):
Like
Mark (13:24):
a very reassuring friend.
He is like Superman.
So there's a sense of thistitanic presence.
in the room and friendliness.
I think it's worth reallylanding the point here that
everyone can do this.
And this is the whole point.
Everyone can do this.
And it does coming back toaffinity, like what, who
resonates with you.
And if we're opening the door toworking with the best possible
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guides, let's say for Nells, andit's just having that dexterity
like, oh there's ArchangelGabriel, there's Archangel
Uriel, and understanding them.
And that just comes fromexperience, but anyone can say,
Archangel Michael for being withme.
And to just very simply noticewhat happens rather than
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project, oh he's going to beblue, or he's going to be 10
feet tall.
Krista (14:12):
You also mentioned during your session with Nels
that one of our core wounds isirrelevance, which would lend
itself to it's out there.
Guidance is out there.
You may not be good enough oryou may not matter enough, which
I think speaks to what you'resaying about it not being
available to us.
Correct?
Mark (14:32):
Yeah.
We're repeatedly told that wesuck and we don't suck.
This gets into worthiness of whocould talk to an angel.
There's all these rules, wecould all talk to angels.
But this idea that we are notworthy, that other people know
more than we do all these add upto an absence of empowerment or
agency.
El (14:53):
So Nels.
so much.
You're an architect, based inNorthern California and as an
architect, would you agree thatyou're analytical, you're
perceptive, maybe you'resomewhat type A personality
wise?
Nels (15:06):
Yeah, probably to a fault.
El (15:07):
Could you tell us a little bit about yourself?
Describe yourself?
Nels (15:10):
Um, I'm a person that thinks of myself as incredibly
detail oriented and lovesorganizing things.
Okay.
Very much of a control freak, Idon't really like anybody else,
getting to tell me how thingsget done or how things should be
done or like, you know, like Icook dinner because like you cut
an onion a certain way, likethose kinds of things.
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And that translates into my workto a certain extent um, Mark
mentioned that the intent of oursession was communication.
And the reason for that is I'vebeen.
I'm struggling with somepersonalities at work where,
type a means type a, and we'reboth control freaks and we both
think that things should be donevery specific way.
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And sometimes it differs thatspecific way.
You're right.
Yeah, that's, it's somethingthat I'm definitely aware of
something I'm working on.
It's hard to take a step backand understand.
I don't want to use the wordcharacter flaws, but character
traits that, are not necessarilyharmonious with others all of
the time,
El (16:09):
and as far as like your spiritual practices, how would
you describe that?
Have you ever done anything likethis before?
Nels (16:15):
Like this, no getting into meditation and getting into kind
of more of a spiritual ness butultimately just leaving that and
just saying, it's what I believein is what is physical, what I
can pick up, what I can buildwith.
I'm an architect.
I draw things that get built outof stone and steel and wood.
And that's my language that Ispeak really clearly.
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And it's just been.
recent, maybe the last fiveyears or so that I started to
understand that there's more toreality than the physical
materials around us.
And that doesn't necessarilyhave to be going to church.
It doesn't have to besubscribing to a methodology or
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a philosophy and it can bepersonal and you don't have to
talk about it with people.
You can if you want to,obviously, but.
El (17:09):
And what expectations did you have of the session?
Like the process, the outcome?
Nels (17:14):
I listened to it.
well Known podcast on paranormaland supernatural stuff.
And every time a regressioncomes up the person experiencing
the regression was always anEgyptian temple whore.
And so I'm just like I guess I'mgoing to find out if I was an
Egyptian temple whore, so thatwas just a joke, but I live a
vanilla lifestyle, and so justbeing offered.
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This opportunity was exciting.
And then there was immediatelythe, a little bit of anxiety
about, loss of control, givingin, giving up that kind of.
Carefully crafted, image that Iportrayed in the world was a,
cause for a little bit ofanxiety, kind of allowing that
unconscious to be literallybroadcast.
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But I suspended disbelief aroundthe process itself and just
allowed it to happen.
I wouldn't say that I was,Trying to get anything in
particular out of it.
I was just letting it happen.
Other than one spiritualencounter when I was a child
that was a Very kind of physicalspiritual encounter.
I got in a pretty seriousbicycle accident.
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And actually felt a hand on myface and then healed three days
later The skin was gone on thisside of my face like gone And
then it was just back in a weekso I mean that was weird, that
was an anomaly that's not like aIs that something that happened
every couple months, you knowthroughout?
But other than that, like Iwouldn't say I had any like
strong spiritual encounters andso just allowing this experience
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to unfold
El (18:46):
So Mark do you work with somebody who is from a very
specific religious tradition whodoesn't identify at all with
angels, Mary, Jesus, when that'swhat you work with for your
practice.
Mark (18:59):
I implicitly trust who comes forward and that it's with
purpose.
And this comes back to theprayer.
So if I'm working with someoneone on one, let that guide be a
guide.
Let's not associate him with anyfaith.
And the same would be true ofMother Mary or Lakshmi, but just
recognizing these are freeagents.
that they are powerful andpalpable guides.
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Let's let the guides be currentwith us.
A question is what does Jesuswant us to know now?
Now, what did he say in thepast?
What does Mother Mary want us toknow now?
What does Ganesh want us to knownow?
And that leads us to the, thisimmediate moment.
So if I'm doing a session withsomeone, usually they'll tell me
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pretty rapidly or ascertainreally rapidly, like where they
are faith wise.
And I often ask in a one on onesession do you have guides that
you work with?
Do you have goddesses or guidesor angels that you really have
an affinity for?
What actually works in healingis if I'm in judgment or if I'm
saying, no, it's got to go thisway.
And this happened with thissession with Nels.
There's a technique of noticingthe feet.
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That's not what worked, so it'sjust being open he accessed the
different lives throughenvironment.
Thank you.
It's just being open andreceptive like what's actually
happening right now in thisexchange with this individual
and to listen and to be curious.
El (20:17):
And that brings in being a channel.
So when you're saying, get outof the way, and Krista I'm sure
you notice this in your work andI certainly do in mine, you have
to let your preconceived notionsaside.
so much.
And let come through what'scoming through and not try to
color or taint that maybe youtry to direct it so it's more
receivable for the other person.
Yeah.
Mark (20:37):
To get your thumb off the scale.
Nels (20:39):
Yeah.
I just jump in there.
I've been thinking a lot aboutthe session since last week.
One of the things that I keepcoming back to L is a phrase
that you used when we weretalking after about where you
allow consciousness to interruptthe unconscious process.
And Mark your phrase of takingyour thumb off the scales just
brought me back to that.
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L knows me as Someone who'sparticipated in storytelling in
the past and there's maybe notso much in the moment, but in
reflection, it's am I telling astory?
Am I getting in the way, likelooking forward to the next part
in the narrative arc?
Or am I like allowing that tonaturally come through?
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And I found like that.
Honestly is my biggest takeawayfrom the experience was how much
am I allowing that process tojust be a process and how much
am I trying to control it to besomething that I maybe wanted it
to be in the moment.
Krista (21:35):
Are you essentially saying how much did you
intellectualize it and how muchdid you actually have the
experience of it?
Nels (21:41):
Yeah, like how much was it like an unconscious experience
and how much of it was like myconscious kind of filling in
gaps.
Yeah.
Krista (21:48):
So how much of it can you relate to feeling the
sensation of it, not thethinking, but the feeling.
Did you have any takeaways thatwere truly feeling?
Nels (21:59):
There was definitely a lot of emotion.
El (22:01):
And that's what struck me.
Nels, when we were interactingafter your session, you were
relaying these things and you'relike, yeah, I don't know how
much of it was my consciousmind, just making it up but what
you were saying around it, I waslike, that's very poignant.
And that hit him on a corelevel, and this might be
starting to go a little bit of atangent, but I think it's also
relevant is with all of life,there's a wrapper around things,
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right?
So maybe there's this aestheticlayer that you wrapped around
it, but this core experience,this emotion that's what's
valuable.
That's like the lesson.
So I don't know, Mark.
Mark (22:30):
No.
This is all incredibly relevant.
I think I neglected to say thisto you, Nelso, before we worked,
which is you're gonna feel likeyou're making it up, and you're
not.
Let's say going into fourdifferent past lives like we
did.
There's a lot of symbology inthose.
And just seeing how we do work.
In our psyche, in our emotions,in our consciousness, in our
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cells, in our soul witharchetypes, with symbology, and
that there is a story in these,and that story does have a
beginning, a middle, and an end.
And this is the way we processthings, and we don't need to
know every single detail thathappens in that.
But there is an elegance to howthese things come forward.
And the goal in the work as wedid is to notice what's
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happening to perhaps get a senseof what happens and to activate
the good and to release thenegative.
A poignant moment is in thefirst lifetime when, there was
the boy who got a practice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That they died.
This kid died.
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I think a lot of spiritualdynamics would want to explore
how did he die?
What happened there?
And that's irrelevant.
Why get into a trauma?
The information was there.
You knew, and you said, I thinkyour wording was, they didn't
make it.
That's all the informationneeded there.
If we then extrapolate that,what I know to be true, so that,
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that's a trauma.
This kid had dread.
And then it didn't work out.
He was right.
So we're going to activatepositively his intuition, which
was accurate.
And let's just notice.
that you are safe right whereyou are physically.
We're just going to go into abit of a non physical space, but
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you are safe and wellmaintaining that space.
So if we could just breathe in,and whether you see it, feel it,
hear it, or know it, we'llnotice you and Archangel Michael
standing at the beginning of along, ornate marble hallway.
Perhaps a very beautiful andancient space where everything
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is possible and into this space,so very simply, if you could
just repeat after me, thank you,Archangel Michael, for being my
guide.
Nels (24:50):
Thank you, Archangel Michael, for being my guide.
Mark (24:53):
Into four different past lives.
Nels (24:55):
Into four different past lives.
Mark (24:57):
Connected with communication.
Nels (25:00):
Connected with communication.
Mark (25:02):
Wonderful.
So just breathe in.
And if you could just notice youand Archangel Michael beginning
to walk down that hallwaytogether, holding hands.
And here we'll do a countdown,and I'll just do the work here.
If we could just breathe in.
And five.
If we could just let ArchangelMichael do all the work.
Your job is very simply tonotice and just report.
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And another breath in.
And four.
And we'll let Archangel Michaelhave access to your cells, your
DNA, your heart center, yourAkashic records.
And three, another breath in,will very simply allow your
conscious mind to relax,allowing your physical body to
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relax, and knowing that
Nels (25:56):
you're noticing some smells, which is, some
Mark (25:58):
smells?
Yeah.
Cool.
What kind of smells are younoticing?
Nels (26:03):
It smells like stone, maybe sand, dust, you
Mark (26:06):
know?
Nels (26:08):
I'm maybe a cool sensation on the bottom of my feet.
Mark (26:12):
That's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
Great.
So we'll just trust the systemworks here, and that your senses
are engaged, your body isengaged.
That's great.
And we'll just keep countingdown here for a moment.
We'll just breathe in with two,and we'll feel like everything
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is already done, that there's abeautiful integration and
wonderful information, and theworld getting bigger in unique
and lovely ways.
So we'll just gently breatheinto all that, and we'll arrive
at a big breath at one, andwe'll very simply breathe in
here.
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If you could just gently noticeyour feet, And just organically
notice if those are men's feet,women's feet, children's feet,
or a different kind of foot.
And just trust what you get.
Once again, it might be a flashor a little glimpse.
Nels (27:14):
It's a coolness underfoot.
Mark (27:15):
Okay.
Nels (27:16):
Feeling maybe hung up on the size of my feet, maybe more
than anything else.
Mark (27:20):
Okay.
What are you noticing there?
Are they huge feet?
Nels (27:23):
It's I'm, my mind is trying to.
Decide whether they're big orsmall.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Mark (27:31):
Why don't we just notice, we'll just take in that detail,
just notice with the coolnessunder your feet, what surface
are those feet on?
Nels (27:40):
Feels like stone.
Like marble inside.
Mark (27:43):
Okay, good deal.
Wonderful.
And is that indeed an interiorspace, or like a balcony, or a
hallway?
Nels (27:51):
Feels like the end of a hallway, maybe a balcony.
Okay.
Mark (27:54):
Wonderful.
Let's see if we could justbreathe into that.
And is that an ornate space or abeautiful space, or what's that
space like with the marble?
Nels (28:04):
Open, lots of air, lots of light.
Mark (28:06):
Okay, wonderful.
Let's just breathe in here for amoment.
Wonderful.
And let's just notice the beingwho you are, the person who's
perceiving that.
Let's just very simply justnotice, is that being alone, or
is there other people around?
Nels (28:22):
Okay,
Mark (28:25):
wonderful.
If we could just very simplyjust breathe in, and perhaps
just with a glance, just a verysimple glance, if we could just
notice that person's body, andwhat information comes forward,
just noticing that person'sbody.
I
Nels (28:46):
think it's It's a boy,
Mark (28:47):
maybe
Nels (28:49):
adolescent, early teens.
Mark (28:53):
Wonderful.
And what's he wearing?
Nels (28:56):
It felt like a robe.
Okay.
Maybe like linen or some sort ofnatural fiber.
Mark (29:02):
Okay.
Wonderful.
So we'll just breathe into allthat information, and if we
could just notice what thisperson is engaged with, how they
feel, are they happy, are theysad, are they anxious, are they
bored?
Anxious.
Anxious.
Good.
Let's just breathe into that.
(29:24):
Let's just gather informationand let Archangel Michael help.
What is this boy anxious about?
Nels (29:33):
Feels like maybe there's a change in his life.
Something that he is beingprepared for, that maybe he's,
maybe not sure that he's readyfor.
Okay.
Wonderful.
Mark (29:50):
Let's just breathe into that.
And let's just let, once again,Archangel Michael fast forward
to the next thing.
And what comes there?
Nels (30:00):
I think it's a journey.
Mark (30:01):
Horses
Nels (30:02):
and ships.
And not very far in the future.
Mark (30:08):
Okay.
Okay.
And what's his feeling aboutthis journey and the trip?
Nels (30:14):
Again, anxiety.
The sense of boredom, maybe.
Okay.
Feeling of something importantabout to happen, but this kind
of like time that it takes toget there.
Okay.
Mark (30:30):
Okay.
So let's just breathe in.
Great reporting.
Let's just notice the arrival.
Let's just notice the arrivaland what happens next.
Nels (30:40):
I'm feeling like maybe they didn't get there.
Yeah.
Mark (30:43):
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, so let's just notice wedon't need to know what happened
there.
We don't need to know.
This is the thing with pastlives.
We typically focus on doom anddread and been killed.
We just know that information isenough.
So let's just take in a breath.
So feel cool to you to not, wedon't need to dive into it.
(31:05):
So let's just take in a breath.
Let's very simply come back toholding Archangel Michael's
hand.
And we're going to let Michaelactivate all the good from that
young man's life, his sense ofself, his awareness of what he
wants, and also his powerfulintuition that he knew something
was up.
(31:26):
Let's very simply release, turnoff the light on being told what
to do.
Losing his autonomy and beingkilled, having a short life, and
we could perhaps just noticethat he wasn't able to speak up
for himself, be that throughcultural things or his age or
(31:47):
what was happening in his cityor village and anything
involving war.
So we'll just breathe in.
How does it feel to activatethat and to release that, Nels?
What do you feel in you?
Yeah, go ahead.
Nels (32:07):
I feel sad.
Mark (32:08):
Do you?
Okay.
I feel a
Nels (32:09):
little sad.
Yeah.
Okay.
Mark (32:11):
Let's just honor that sadness.
That's not fair.
It's not fair.
So we'll just breathe in.
And if we could very simply, ifwe see here, Nels, that, our
soul, this is from Brian Weisspast life expert, our soul is a
(32:32):
mirror ball.
It's mosaic.
So let's just notice you'resharing a lifetime with that
young man, and we honor him byyou living a good life, and
we're honoring him by connectingwith him right now.
And we ask, thank you, ArchangelMichael, for bringing relief to
that lifetime.
(32:52):
That Nels shares with his soul.
And how he died.
Doesn't matter.
It makes sense.
Like generically, we think thatpast lives is where we're going
to see ourselves, burned, hungmurdered all these bad things
happening.
And what about the power ofpositive past lives and
recognizing the fullness of ourexperience as souls.
(33:15):
and incarnations on this planet.
So that's a space in terms ofwhat, what can actually happen
for the individual.
And our intention wascommunication the theme, which I
believe we spoke about at theend, that the first three
lifetimes, essentially you hadno voice.
Krista (33:29):
Interesting.
Mark (33:31):
Oh and past lives reveal themes and patterns.
And then we get to make anadjustment based on the themes
and patterns that are revealedand get into a space of choice.
Does that resonate, Nels, forwhat we're talking about?
Nels (33:44):
Yeah, it does.
Mark (33:45):
And the main thing is, we think we're making it up, but
we're not.
When we do all the techniquethings, and past lives are a
very technique focused dynamic.
We just trust what comesforward.
So if our intention is, thankyou, Archangel Michael for
bringing forward four past livesfor NELS connected with
communication.
And that first one is what comesup where this kid had no voice
(34:07):
and he was right.
That's something to move.
That's something to change whereyou do have a voice, that you
are heard, you are seen.
And this is where true healinghappens.
We don't get hung up on thedetails, we get into the core
essence of what is beingrevealed in that one lifetime.
And then seeing that echo in thenext two, and the fourth one
(34:29):
being a completely differentspace.
Krista (34:32):
Nils, given your history, were you surprised at
all at how much you were able toreceive and or surrender to the
process?
Nels (34:41):
Yeah, I guess a little bit.
The stories came more easily,than I thought they would.
I knew going into it that Iwasn't going to look down and
see my feet change like that'sjust not the way that I perceive
things like L did a soundsession for me once and did a
little bit of journeying duringthat and I always.
(35:03):
experience like spaces first,probably because of the nature
of my work, I'm constantlyenvisioning space.
And so I tend to notice thosedetails, the type of light, the
texture of materials, that kindof thing.
But I guess I was surprised howquickly Those went from just the
(35:26):
normal conceptualizations ofspace that flow through my brain
every minute of every day tolike getting focused into
narrative arcs that thenelicited some emotion.
So that was pretty surprisingthat happened as easily as it
did.
Krista (35:40):
Did you have an experience where your normal
cognitive processes shifted intosomething where you're like
that's not me.
That's not how I normallyoperate.
Either through informationcoming in or a visualization.
Was anything within theexperience new to you or
different to you?
Nels (35:59):
Yeah, definitely.
And Mark, we actually didn'ttalk about this.
It was more of a reflection thathappened afterwards, but the
fourth life the one where I feltlike I was in utero and then
feeling compelled to ask aboutthis kind of phantom weight that
I have experienced occasionallyit just almost just feels like
there's something or someonethere sometimes, I think, I
(36:24):
don't know, it's impossible toprove one way or the other, but
I think I might have had a twinin utero.
And I every time I think aboutthat experience, I go, Oh maybe
that's what that is, and I'mcarrying some phantom connection
or something, I don't know, butthat was an idea that came not
from me, like I was in thatspace, and it was like, hello,
I'm here, that was prettyunexpected.
Mark (36:45):
I think, just quickly, that's profound.
And in our analytical minds,perhaps the analytical part is
irrelevant, and the experienceis what's important there.
And that's information and thefact that it resonates and it
has an echo of something you'veexperienced and felt your whole
life.
And that perhaps we got to shiftthat a bit or put it into a
(37:07):
context.
And thank you Archangel Michaelfor bringing forward a fourth
Past Life Connected withCommunication for NELS right
now.
We'll just breathe in.
What do you notice with thespace, with the atmosphere?
Nels (37:26):
very ethereal, having a hard time grasping at anything
physical.
Mark (37:30):
Okay.
And let's just trust it may meanthere may not be anything
physical.
Let's just breathe in.
And are you noticing that as anobservation or as an experience?
What'd you say?
Nels (37:43):
I'd say an experience.
Mark (37:44):
Okay, wonderful.
Let's just breathe in.
And what is the experience?
What are you feeling in thatetheric space?
Nels (37:54):
It's almost like energy flows moving.
Not really spiraling, butpassing back and forth.
Mark (38:02):
Fantastic.
Wonderful.
So we'll just gently breatheinto that.
And what else do you noticethere now?
Nels (38:12):
It's an incredibly empty space.
There's beauty in the empty,emptiness.
Mark (38:17):
If you could just notice, Is this an individual
experience, is this a groupconsciousness experience, or is
this everything one energy?
It's like a oneness experience.
Nels (38:29):
I almost feel like I'm inside of something, or someone,
or something like that.
Mark (38:34):
Okay.
Wonderful.
Let's just let Archangel Michaelilluminate anything that would
help.
Give it even more of a context,if it says trust the experience.
Nels (38:47):
I honestly feel like I'm in a womb.
Mark (38:49):
Do you?
Okay, wonderful.
So let's just breathe into that,and let's indeed just notice all
needs being met, and they'rebeing loved.
They're being loved here.
And you being wanted.
Did you have an additionalawareness or thought there,
Nels?
Nels (39:07):
It's a tangential thought, actually, but occasionally I'll
feel almost like a burden on myback when I don't have, it's
almost like a like a phantomburden.
And it's something that Inoticed, I can't remember the
first time I noticed it, butI've noticed it for much of my
life.
(39:28):
And as we are having thisexperience, my focus shifted to
that, and I just felt the urgeto acknowledge.
that.
Mark (39:40):
I appreciate you bringing that up.
Let's let, if you could just sayout loud, thank you Archangel
Michael for lifting the burdenoff of my back.
Nels (39:47):
Thank you Archangel Michael for lifting the burden
off of my back.
It's almost like a presence.
Yeah.
Between my shoulder blades.
Mark (39:57):
Okay.
Okay.
And how do you noticing that?
Is that you feel someone thereor you feel a hand there or
what's your experience?
Nels (40:06):
I feel something there.
Okay.
I don't know that it's a human.
Mark (40:11):
Okay.
Krista (40:13):
having a relationship to that, however, you want to
characterize it, sensationexperience can then lend itself
to you, creating a differentrelationship with that
experience and having more andmore.
Nels (40:28):
Maybe this is a subtle push to say it's okay to pray.
You don't have to, you don'thave to bless your food before
every meal.
You don't have to get down onyour knees at the edge of your
bed and hold a bible, but youknow you It's okay to Okay.
To pray.
It's okay to open up and releasesome control and say, I'm here,
(40:48):
I need help, or I'm here andjust wanna talk or whatever.
It's
El (40:54):
nels.
What was your experience duringthe session?
Nels (40:58):
It's, it started with this looking or waiting for something
to happen.
Is this going to happen?
And then just letting it.
Just letting it happen and justturning the volume down a little
bit and just Mark, I think youused the phrase reporting,
starting to not assign value toanything, I'm just copying words
(41:23):
from one page to the otherwithout really translating them,
pure transcription, notranslation.
And I think once I got intothat, Transcription mode is when
we started getting some contentstarting to come through, which
was, interesting because it's,that's a design process.
(41:44):
Like that's when I'm drawing,when I'm writing, when I'm
working, that's, you have tosilence that internal monologue
and just allow the creativity tocome out.
And there's a lot of work that Ihave done.
To try and enhance those flowstates.
And so it just felt like I wasentering a flow state in some
(42:05):
sense.
Krista (42:06):
Dare you say channeling?
Nels (42:12):
When I think of channeling, I think of automatic
writing.
And that feels like somethingvery different, but I guess it's
similar.
And then the experience itselfwas, emotional.
I mean, I was surprised at therange of emotions that I went
through from anxiety to fear to,love, excitement.
Connection and then this kind oflike super connection love at
(42:35):
the end not to just keep sayinglove over and over but Yeah, I
think the range of emotionpretty powerful pretty real.
Yeah
Mark (42:45):
Yeah, coming back to the core wound of insignificance or
isolation that in doing what wedid with Nels, my job as the
facilitator is to make sure thathe knows that he is not alone,
that I'm going to guide himthrough the whole thing and
that.
Giving a heads up, like what'sgoing to happen.
(43:06):
So that's a held space and inthe held space, he has room to
relax and just report and tohave an experience rather than
try to see what's happening.
So it's just allowing, and Ihonor you Nels for how well that
worked for you.
Just very simply, like what'sactually here, that's a held
(43:28):
space.
And it's important that we haveheld spaces.
Krista (43:32):
Nels, I would be interested in learning.
What, if anything you've noticedsince or any benefit that you.
have felt
Nels (43:40):
I think what it has done is reignited a fire around This
is something I should probablyspend more time on, and I don't
really know how or in what modethat manifests yet.
El (43:52):
Nels, in terms of your intention going into the
session, which was to work oncommunication, do you have any
takeaways to support concreteareas of your life?
Nels (44:01):
Short answer is yes.
I think formulating that into aresponse the first life, the
fear of missing out, the fear ofnot being able to accomplish
what has been set Out for you issomething I feel every day, it's
the kind of constant likeanxiety around you get one
(44:22):
chance to get it right, and Ithink maybe what the overall
experience has shared is don'tonly have one chance to get it
right.
Like you can back off a littlebit and allow it to just unfold
and practice that way and justlet it.
Let life be life and not reallytry to make it into what you
(44:44):
want it to be necessarily.
I have a cousin that, that toldme sometimes it's okay just to
wake up in the morning.
Sometimes it's okay just to bealive.
You don't really have to doanything.
Which was just like a slap inthe face, because for me, and my
life, and my career, and myfamily, I've got a to do list a
(45:05):
mile long, and I gotta getthrough that so I can get to the
next, because I've got toaccomplish this goal by this
time, and It's okay just to wakeup and do it again the next day,
and so while maybe theregression session didn't
actively speak to communication,I feel like my issues with
(45:26):
communication are rooted morein.
And anxiety and control andthose types of things, which
cloud judgment aroundcommunication.
And so in that sense, I do feellike there's some concrete
takeaway there.
Krista (45:40):
Because this is the beginner's guide.
Mark, I just have a couplequestions for you that I think
might relate to how people mightprocess this.
So is this a form of hypnosis?
Mark (45:52):
No.
You're right there.
And in, in your awareness in aheld space is just recognizing
the depth of your experience.
And so it gets to integrate.
And the whole point, rather thanmy telling Nels, Oh, you had
this life when you were a kidand you died at sea.
He gets to experience it.
And that's the space where theintegration happens and with the
(46:15):
very specific practice ofactivating the good and
releasing what's not serving himanymore.
That then instantly integrates.
Krista (46:22):
And then are you seeing what they're seeing or feeling
what they're feeling?
A bit.
Mark (46:26):
Yeah.
The power is in the personexperiencing it, having it.
In, in, in their vision, intheir body, in their mind, I
will have an awarenessintuitively of what they're
experiencing for sure.
I might be directed to aquestion or just very simply in
having done this hundreds oftimes that have a sense of what
(46:49):
he's experiencing.
Also very simply knows was veryexpressive.
I could see what was happening,just by paying attention to him.
Krista (46:56):
And it goes back to creating a space,
Mark (46:58):
creating a space, but just that.
That it's here.
It's not somewhere else thatit's here and it's here.
We get to integrate and changeand have the empowerment and
have the healing that happensright, in the moment.
Krista (47:12):
how do you balance your energy and what kinds of things
knock you out of alignment?
Mark (47:20):
Self care is non attachment.
Also being diligent with energyas an empath are naturally
inclined to take it all on, andit's doing the opposite.
So to have an intention for eachreading.
To decidedly clear energy beforeand after and to not hold on to
anything.
And that takes a while to learn,which doesn't mean that you
(47:42):
don't care, but to be completelynon attached to what comes
forward, especially if someone'sin crisis and to truly at the
core of the work is let's letthe angels handle that, let's
let the guides handle that.
And what interests me in this isthat the focus doesn't go to me.
(48:04):
The focus goes to the work sowhen people project toward me,
you're the one with theinformation, I'm just gonna,
detach from that, there'snothing I'm gonna hold on to
with that.
But to, in terms of self care,it is recognizing what is
actually happening and just tonot let any projection happen to
steer the conversation towardempowerment.
Also, just advocating for apeaceful planet.
(48:28):
And recognizing all the thingsthat are happening now that,
that are reactions to the energyof the planet having already
changed and that we are headingtoward a space where there's no
greed and no guns, you know,that, that is where we're
heading.
And this idea of the narrativeof unworthiness and
(48:49):
disempowerment vanishing, thatwe exist in a space where we
encourage each other and we'reactive generosity.
That's what it seems.
And great peace in that where weall tune in.
Krista (49:02):
Do you think we'll see that in our lifetimes?
Mark (49:04):
Absolutely.
Krista (49:06):
You do?
Mark (49:07):
I do.
I do.
And this is not like laspiritual talk if we witness
existing authority quote unquotepanicking, absolutely panicking,
which is why all theauthoritarianism and things like
that, all the rules We'rebreaking, it's like Neo and the
Matrix.
We're breaking through this ideaof who's in charge and everybody
wants peace and love and ourmethods are different.
(49:30):
And it's just seeing where, whynot advocate for what we want?
We're a world where everyone hastheir needs met and exceeded,
that there is enough foreveryone.
And as spiritual people, we areleading the way right now.
And anyone with a spiritualincarnation, we are leading the
way.
Most people are reallydistracted right now.
And in the narrative of thoseguys are in power, not you.
(49:54):
And if what has changed is thatit's no longer okay to be
unconscious.
If we are conscious and we haveintention and we do things like
work with acacia records orsound healing or sound baths.
or work with angels and guides,that we're all doing the same
thing, that we're making theworld bigger.
(50:15):
And it's recognizing thatbigness includes everyone.
And so this is informative interms of any narrative that gets
into an us and them, or youshouldn't like these people,
that we, can bypass that.
This said, let's be as spiritualas we possibly can and heal as
much as we can.
(50:35):
Let's do that.
And we have so many differentways to do it.
And keep growing.
And let's not worry about thepeople who maybe aren't ready to
change.
That's okay.
We're not going to make themwrong or bad, but we're going to
very simply notice we're leadingthe way.
We are creating a world withintention and vision and action
that everyone else will inhabit.
And the importance of healingour own stuff is that we know
(50:58):
how to do it.
Krista (50:59):
And
Mark (51:01):
so when others are ready to heal, we know what to do, but
it's all going to work out.
One of my favorite comedians,Bill Hicks he died in 94, but he
was into oneness and he had athing of the perfect world where
everything's worked out.
Hey, it's all going to work outyour sports.
Krista (51:22):
It's all going to work out.
Here's what
Mark (51:24):
Sports.
It's like a newscast, like thenews in the perfect world.
Sorry, I didn't set it up right.
Krista (51:29):
And
Mark (51:29):
the news in the perfect world is, hey, it's all going to
work out.
Here's sports.
Krista (51:38):
I love it.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much for your time.
You're welcome.
Is there anything you'd like toadd that you can think of?
Mark (51:50):
That it is all going to work out.
Krista (51:52):
Yeah.
And
Mark (51:52):
for real, like all the narratives are constrictive
right now.
Let's do the exact opposite andbe big.
Let's do the exact opposite.
I do honor both of you for doinga podcast that is designed to
help people.
And to meet them right wherethey are, and the value of being
able to articulate how thisactually works.
Krista (52:14):
We're showing roads.
We're showing pathways.
Mark (52:17):
Mostly we have podcasts where we talk about the work
around the show, and I thinkit's profound to show it and to
show what's possible.
And I honor Nels for a beingwilling and being to just to I
Nels (52:31):
just want to echo and say thank you for thinking of me
and, allowing me to do thisbecause, it's not something that
I would have sought out on myown, probably, and I think for a
lot of people on my walk oflife, it's not something that
maybe even people know exists.
Yeah, pretty special.
So thank you for that.
El (52:52):
And Mark, where can we find you?
And what are some of theservices that you provide in
addition to regression work?
Mark (52:58):
Through my website, markmezadorian.
com, the main thing that happensis connecting with angels and
guides and to see what they say.
Usually people come when there'ssomething happening, that
there's a prompt that we'lladdress that immediately.
And that if there's a crisis,we'll bring peace to it.
And if there's not a crisis,we'll bring peace and expansion.
The whole goal is to make theworld bigger and to to heal and
(53:22):
to let healing be simple andeasy and practical, and also to
have a strategy, to put thingsinto a context where there's a
strategy and action steps movingforward.
El (53:30):
Thank you guys so much.
We really appreciate all of yourtime.
This has been super informative.
Krista (53:36):
Thank you.
All right.
Bye.
Thanks.
Take
Mark (53:39):
care.
Bye.
Krista (53:41):
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