Behind the Message
We take you behind what we teach with long form conversations on theology, leadership and spirituality.
Episodes
October 10, 2025 • 47 mins
Mariners clip of a man crying after the win:https://www.si.com/mlb/mariners-fans-full-emotion-seattle-first-home-playoff-win-since-2001 His Favorite Song of all – Phillips, Craig, and Dean Stacey Orricohttps://www.youtube.com/stacieorrico Barlow Girlhttps://www.youtube.com/user/barlowgirlmusic
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October 2, 2025 • 55 mins
9/29/25 – David and Goliath Adventures in Odyssey Garrison Keeler Chris Theeley Nickel Creek Now 95 Wow Worship Best Friend Inside Out Darlene Zschech Reuben Morgan Crystal Lewis Awesome God Shout to the Lord Sometimes by Step Like Incense Rich Mullins 17:00 start talking about the message Malcolm Gladwell’s book Davie and Goliath Miracle on Ice Babe Babe Ruth Hank Aaron
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September 26, 2025 • 56 mins
Emotionally healthy spirituality – Pete Scazzero Teddy Roosevelt https://theodoreroosevelt.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=991271&module_id=339332 John Wayne The Night at the Museum https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477347 The Natural History Museum in NYC https://www.amnh.org Presidential podcast by the Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/presidential Safe Pa...
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September 19, 2025 • 42 mins
9:45 started talking about the sermon John 5:39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me. 1 Peter 3:20-21 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, an...
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September 5, 2025 • 47 mins
Good and Beautiful books by James Bryan Smith Dallas Willardhttps://dwillard.org Rich Mullinshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Mullins Gen Z now Leads in Church Attendance: Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z:https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins Safe Housing: Rich Villodashttps://www.richvillodas.com Rich Villodas’ Church:
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July 27, 2025 • 57 mins
What is the project? Why this matters: About the program: Outcomes & Success: Addressing Concerns: Why the Church? Encouragement & Hope: Call to Action:
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July 25, 2025 • 47 mins
Unsolved Mysteries Robert Stack https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0821041 JOHN WALSH https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0909696 America’s Most Wanted https://www.fox.com/americas-most-wanted Jerry Seinfeld https://jerryseinfeld.com Perfect Strangers https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090501 TGIF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGIF_(TV_programming_block) 9:13 – started talking about Big Questions Lazarus ht...
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June 13, 2025 • 52 mins
AI language Asbury revival How was the civil rights movement connected to the churchhttps://www.detroitpbs.org/news-media/american-black-journal/paving-the-way-for-today-how-the-black-church-supported-the-civil-rights-movement Desert Mothers and Fathershttps://www.britannica.com/topic/asceticism St. Ignatius of Loyola Julian of Norwichhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_of_Norwich Tooth...
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June 5, 2025 • 47 mins
Chopstick etiquettehttps://everythingchopsticks.com/Guide-to-Chopsticks-Etiquette-Around-the-World.html Ben’s favorite movie monsterhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073195 Foursquare International Conferencehttps://www.foursquare.org/events/connection
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May 23, 2025 • 41 mins
Randy Remingtonhttps://www.foursquare.org/about/leadership/#senior-leadership B4 Churchhttps://www.b4church.org 27:25 – start talking about the message
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May 16, 2025 • 51 mins
Small talkhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/field-guide-to-families/202503/the-enormity-of-small-talk-as-an-introvert 12:36 – start talking about the message Les Mis Bo Stern Bradyhttps://www.bostern.com “Why we laugh when it’s not even funny”https://synapse.ucsf.edu/articles/2023/01/08/why-you-laugh-when-its-not-even-funny
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May 9, 2025 • 44 mins
1:55 – Kentucky Derby & F1 Racing 7:35 – Recapping Sunday: God’s Grace vs. Self-Righteousness 14:50 – How should we interact with God’s grace? 18:50 – God’s grace should motivate us to do good 22:20 – Grace should not be seen as optional 26:00 – The importance of driving stick, The Amazing Race, and The Bachelor 28:54 – Reading scripture in context (and with curiosity) 35:35 – Cherry...
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May 2, 2025 • 44 mins
Moanahttps://movies.disney.com/moana Flight of the Conchordshttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0863046 Start talking about W1 – 6:00 Resurgence of Christianity Onesimushttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philemon 1&version=NLT Powers being humiliated by Christ’s work on the crosshttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians 2%3A14-15&version=NLT Daughtership? Yes, it...
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April 18, 2025 • 47 mins
This week, Ben and Evan discuss the significance of Good Friday. They also debate the shape and weight of the perfect coffee mug. Show Notes 6:50 – Holy Week10:25 – Gospel narrative post-resurrection14:07 – Sermon from Sunday The perfect mug:https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/article/what-makes-a-good-mug Dutch Bros Annihilatorhttps://www.dutchbros.com/menu/dutch-faves/annihilator Judas Ma...
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April 10, 2025 • 47 mins
Mini donkeys:https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/miniature-donkey Pengolin:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangolin The Rabbit Hole podcast:https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole Cub’s fan story:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1908471 Canonization of scripture: Storks movie:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4624424 Why do we eat ham on Easter?https://www.bhg.com/holidays/easter/ham-on-easter Th...
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April 4, 2025 • 47 mins
(Start talking about message 6:15) Aladdin on Broadway https://www.broadway.com/shows/aladdin-broadway Lion King https://www.broadway.com/shows/the-lion-king Bluey https://www.bluey.tv https://news.mit.edu/2017/stress-can-lead-risky-decisions-1116 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 14%3A 1-11&version=NIV https://bendmagazine.com/a-roller-skating-comeback-brings-nostalg...
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March 27, 2025 • 49 mins
Ben, Lindsay and Mike talk about Jesus’ challenge for us to love our neighbor as ourself. What does that look like over years of relationship? What does that look like in traffic? And how does repentance and self-love bring the whole picture into focus? Show notes: Started the message at 2:09 Mark 12:28-34 28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesu...
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March 20, 2025 • 46 mins
This week, Ben and Evan discuss the story of the Rich Young Ruler in Mark chapter 10. Jesus said it’s impossible for the rich to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Did he really mean that? Show Notes Evan’s age meme – https://ifunny.co/picture/it-s-interesting-growing-up-and-learn-ing-that-most-ypuZtOEW6 7:48 started talking about the message Rich Young Ruler – Mark 10:17-22 Pete Kelley https:...
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March 12, 2025 • 44 mins
To kick off Lent, Ben and Evan discuss the power of recognizing our mortality, and how Jesus’ identity as a suffering Messiah was a direct challenge to the religious nationalism of His day. 3:35 start talking about Ash Wednesday Church Calendar Explained: https://anglicancompass.com/what-time-is-it-an-overview-of-the-church-calendar-and-liturgical-year/#:~:text=Keeping sacred time did no...
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February 20, 2025 • 55 mins
This week, Ben and Evan have a wide ranging conversation on the rise of AI, how Jesus pushes back against religious guilt, and why we spend so much time talking about Jesus. Should we use manners with AI?https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-you-be-nice-to-ai-chatbots-such-as-chatgpt/ What is a Luddite? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite Roots of the last names Earwick...
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