Behind the Message

Behind the Message

We take you behind what we teach with long form conversations on theology, leadership and spirituality.

Episodes

June 5, 2025 47 mins
Chopstick etiquettehttps://everythingchopsticks.com/Guide-to-Chopsticks-Etiquette-Around-the-World.html Ben’s favorite movie monsterhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073195 Foursquare International Conferencehttps://www.foursquare.org/events/connection
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Randy Remingtonhttps://www.foursquare.org/about/leadership/#senior-leadership B4 Churchhttps://www.b4church.org 27:25 – start talking about the message
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May 16, 2025 51 mins
Small talkhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/field-guide-to-families/202503/the-enormity-of-small-talk-as-an-introvert 12:36 – start talking about the message Les Mis Bo Stern Bradyhttps://www.bostern.com “Why we laugh when it’s not even funny”https://synapse.ucsf.edu/articles/2023/01/08/why-you-laugh-when-its-not-even-funny
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May 9, 2025 44 mins
1:55 – Kentucky Derby & F1 Racing 7:35 – Recapping Sunday: God’s Grace vs. Self-Righteousness 14:50 – How should we interact with God’s grace? 18:50 – God’s grace should motivate us to do good 22:20 – Grace should not be seen as optional 26:00 – The importance of driving stick, The Amazing Race, and The Bachelor 28:54 – Reading scripture in context (and with curiosity) 35:35 – Cherry...
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May 2, 2025 44 mins
Moanahttps://movies.disney.com/moana Flight of the Conchordshttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0863046 Start talking about W1 – 6:00 Resurgence of Christianity Onesimushttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philemon 1&version=NLT Powers being humiliated by Christ’s work on the crosshttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians 2%3A14-15&version=NLT Daughtership? Yes, it...
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April 18, 2025 47 mins
This week, Ben and Evan discuss the significance of Good Friday. They also debate the shape and weight of the perfect coffee mug. Show Notes 6:50 – Holy Week10:25 – Gospel narrative post-resurrection14:07 – Sermon from Sunday The perfect mug:https://www.houseandgarden.co.uk/article/what-makes-a-good-mug Dutch Bros Annihilatorhttps://www.dutchbros.com/menu/dutch-faves/annihilator Judas Ma...
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April 10, 2025 47 mins
Mini donkeys:https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/miniature-donkey Pengolin:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangolin The Rabbit Hole podcast:https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole Cub’s fan story:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1908471 Canonization of scripture: Storks movie:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4624424 Why do we eat ham on Easter?https://www.bhg.com/holidays/easter/ham-on-easter Th...
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(Start talking about message 6:15) Aladdin on Broadway https://www.broadway.com/shows/aladdin-broadway Lion King https://www.broadway.com/shows/the-lion-king Bluey https://www.bluey.tv https://news.mit.edu/2017/stress-can-lead-risky-decisions-1116 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 14%3A 1-11&version=NIV https://bendmagazine.com/a-roller-skating-comeback-brings-nostalg...
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March 27, 2025 49 mins
Ben, Lindsay and Mike talk about Jesus’ challenge for us to love our neighbor as ourself. What does that look like over years of relationship? What does that look like in traffic? And how does repentance and self-love bring the whole picture into focus? Show notes: Started the message at 2:09 Mark 12:28-34 28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesu...
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March 20, 2025 46 mins
This week, Ben and Evan discuss the story of the Rich Young Ruler in Mark chapter 10. Jesus said it’s impossible for the rich to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Did he really mean that? Show Notes Evan’s age meme – https://ifunny.co/picture/it-s-interesting-growing-up-and-learn-ing-that-most-ypuZtOEW6 7:48 started talking about the message Rich Young Ruler – Mark 10:17-22 Pete Kelley https:...
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March 12, 2025 44 mins
To kick off Lent, Ben and Evan discuss the power of recognizing our mortality, and how Jesus’ identity as a suffering Messiah was a direct challenge to the religious nationalism of His day. 3:35 start talking about Ash Wednesday Church Calendar Explained: https://anglicancompass.com/what-time-is-it-an-overview-of-the-church-calendar-and-liturgical-year/#:~:text=Keeping sacred time did no...
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February 20, 2025 55 mins
This week, Ben and Evan have a wide ranging conversation on the rise of AI, how Jesus pushes back against religious guilt, and why we spend so much time talking about Jesus. Should we use manners with AI?https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-you-be-nice-to-ai-chatbots-such-as-chatgpt/   What is a Luddite? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite   Roots of the last names Earwick...
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Show Notes:

Superbowl halftime show
[USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super-bowl/2025/01/30/super-bowl-halftime-show-kendrick-lamar-setlist-predictions/78019880007/)

[Who is doing the Super Bowl halftime show 2025? Predicting Kendrick Lamar’s setlist](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super-bowl/2025/01/30/super-bowl-halftime-show-kendrick-lamar-setlist-predic...

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This week on the podcast, Pastor Mike Meeks joins to talk about his own struggles in life and ministry, and reveals what he looks for in a church.

Christmas Vacation
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097958/

Eastlake Church
https://www.eastlake.church

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December 8, 2024 48 mins

In this week’s episode, Ben and Evan discuss how work is worship and why Christmas deserves a fresh look.

Evan’s message: https://westsidechurch.org/podcast/evan-earwicker-christ-with-us-mark-140-45/

The Anticipated Christ by Brian Zahnd – https://brianzahnd.com/2022/09/the-anticipated-christ/

Ephesians 6:12

“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, agains...

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December 4, 2024 45 mins

This week, Ben and Evan talk about how honest we should be at Christmas, and discuss their best and worst Christmas presents from childhood.

Fun dip
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Fun-Dip-Cherry-Razz-Apple-Powdered-Candy-0-43-oz-48-Count/416047138?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0

Mousetrap
https://www.target.com/p/classic-mouse-trap-board-game/-/A-85895913?ref=tgt_adv_xsf&AFID=goo...

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Former lead pastor Steve Mickel joins Evan and Ben to discuss what it’s like coming back, and how faith is deepened on the other side of suffering.

Former lead pastor Steve Mickel joins Evan and Ben to discuss what it’s like coming back, and how faith is deepened on the other side of suffering.

Show notes:
Brian Zahnd prayer liturgy – https://westsidechurch.org/dailyprayer/

C.S. Lewis – ...

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October 23, 2024 49 mins

Pastor Mike Meeks joins the podcast to share his journey in prayer, and how letting go of control is a crucial part of living a life of prayer.

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Ben and Evan discuss the 70th anniversary of Westside Church, and how prayer fits into a forward-facing vision.

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What qualifies as prayer? Evan and Ben discuss how prayer is the first stop on the path towards the way of Jesus and explore how different forms of prayer are critical to “pray without ceasing”.

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