Live at NY ComicCon w/ Belissa Escobedo

Harvey talks to Belissa Escobedo aka Beli live at the NY Comic Con! They chat everything from Beli's recent role in Hocus Pocus 2, their upcoming DC film together, Blue Beetle AND What We Do in the Shadows! PLUS the struggles of working with difficult directors and their love of voice acting! THEN the mics are opened up to the audience! 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Hut Media.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks for coming out to our favorite podcast, Behind.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
The Shadows and calling Con New York.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm really excited as you know, how many what we
do in the Shadows fans do we have in the audience.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's a lot. It's a lot of fans. There's a
lot of fans.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
So I'm really excited because the first time we've done
this at New York Comic Con. And I'm super excited
about our guests because tis the season I fell in
love with Belly.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
I call her Belly.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Everyone who knows her and loves her her names be Lisa,
but I call her Belly, and everyone who loves her
does so as well. You might have seen her in
a couple of projects I don't know, like hocus Pocus too.
So without further ado, let's welcome Bellissa Escooling.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
On breathing this bewhelming.

Speaker 6 (01:02):
Will tell me who I would anyone want to be alive.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Does not have a reputation before she arrives, but trust me, we.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Have way more fun the line.

Speaker 6 (01:18):
We have way more fun the f lines.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Thanks for coming.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh my gosh, you guys, how many have you seen
hocus Pocus the latest movie?

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, yes, yes, So we actually met on sat of
another movie.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, we can talk about a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, should we tell them what that movie is? Yeah,
you guys want to know what that is? Yeah, Licia
let the DC film coming up called Blue Beetle.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Do you want to tell everybody who you play in
Blue Beetle?

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I played Mila, which is our main Blue Ben't Hi
mever Day.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
As his sister, little sister.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
She's very different from my character and hocus Pocus who
very different. Yes, very very different. So excited for everyone
to see that as well.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
She's versatile, you guys, she's very sata. You can do
it all. Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
So we met and I completely fell in love with
you because you just had this aura about you, like
you have this energy. And I was just talking to
our friend, our mutual friend who plays on our show,
Doug Jones, who plays the baron who and who plays
in hocus Pocus It's Billy Butcher, and had the nicest

(02:36):
things to say about you and just kept gushing over you,
like and I was like, see, that's what it is
when we meet her, that's what people walk away with, right,
And so I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
So glad that you're here to be here.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay, I'm excited because I want to start this right away.
First of all, I mean you're a fan of what
we do in the Shadows, Yes, yes, yes, absolutely. I
want to ask you off the bat, what's your favorite
episode thus far?

Speaker 3 (03:00):
My favorite episode is from the most recent season, and
it's when you, uh, when we're talking about musical theater. Yeah,
that's musical theater and performing arts high schools. I sent
that to all my friends right away. I was like,
this this part right here.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
And he goes to go see Wicked with his new
love interest. Yes, doesn't turn out to be the best
for him.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
That suck.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
He finds his first love and then that happens. I mean,
that's terrible. Yeah, I feel bad for the aderal half
of the time. When I'm filming, I'm like, really, guys.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
You know, as your character, Yeah, I wanted to know,
like you must be in a constant state of like
just sadness and like, wow, yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Fact right now is a marriage.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, like I should be crying in the corner or somewhere.
But yeah, it's so true musical theater. You know, it's
funny because Winnie Holtzman wrote the script to Wicked, and
she also wrote My Soul Called Life and managed to
put both of her shows in one season, like the
poster of my My so called Life was on over
the mirror in the living room, and then also Wicked

(04:08):
was the show they went to see as a date.
So little fun fact when he hostminds Everywhere. Okay, so
that's a favorite episode or that favorite story. I want
to ask you if you were able to be part
of the World of Shadows, which we would welcome you anytime,
what would you love to play if it was possible,
like anything in this world of Shadows?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Honestly, I this might be two on the nose, but
I would want to be a witch.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Those witches are so cool, such batties.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see that really, Like what
kind of powers would you have?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Like witchcraft obviously, but like do you fly? Do you
not fly?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
But you like, oh, definitely want to fly? Yeah, always
want to be in the air levitating. I'd love to
be able to just shape shift, you know, and also.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Get the voice.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh yeah, just completely shape Oh yeah, would definitely shape
shift into Nadia a lot.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Oh yeah, a.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Lot, just with their outfits alone. Yeah yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Got to feel how those corsets are, how are the costumes?

Speaker 4 (05:15):
It's I mean, Laura Montgomery, who's our costume designer, just
won the Emmy for.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Shout out to Laura who won the Emmy for designing costumes.
She beat everyone in the category and I can see
why obviously. I mean you see the detail in those
costumes that she literally like sweats, tears, blood.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Over like, Yeah, it's just so detailed. Oh, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And speaking of witches, though, we have to talk about
your latest project, which is Focus Too now out on
Disney Plus. Check it out you guys if you haven't,
but a lot of you checked it out already, right,
how many people saw already?

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, a lot of people. How was that audition process?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Like, going into I was like to ask actors, how
is your audition process for this?

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:59):
The audition honestly took a little long, probably the longest process.
It took like three months before. Yeah, I first got
the audition and then it took like a month for
me to hear back and I was like, oh cool,
I didn't get it like that was you know, yeah,
because a month.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Is pretty long a long time.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, So then I got that and you know, had
a meeting with the director and then in the first
cam read, it was me and the other two girls
who are cast, Whitney and Lilia, and so we did
the cameraid and just immediately it felt like that, you know.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
We just like we're riffing off of each other.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
The script was very different when we auditioned. It changed
a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Do you think that was to like not give away
too much of the story Sometimes I noticed they do
that auditions, but like here you go, and it has
nothing to do with the actual story.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well that and also just the script itself was like
constantly changing.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
That ending was in our first initial ending.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh yeah, well you can only you can't.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
No, yeah, I mean it's out. If you haven't seen it,
that's on you. But so it was it turned into
a much more like emotional scene for the sisters and
like more of a redemption for the Sanderson sisters. And
before it was kind of just like there they go again,
the evil witches, you know, like bye. But so I

(07:28):
thought it was much more beautiful and really playing into
that sisterhood, you know, that bond, that loyalty.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I love that they redeem themselves.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
They do because they're really Gilbert says it the best,
Sam Sam Richardson.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yes, Sam Richard, Yeah, yes, we know.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Sam Richardson, his character says it best of like they
were truly just misunderstood.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Do you think that's the case with like a lot
of like horror films or like genres where it's like,
you know, anything that we fear, it's just the it's
the unknown, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
And I think what we do in The Shadows is
also that it's like about these vampires, all these mystical
and magical, powerful creatures who are so funny and like
just very normal and can interact with humans without always
killing them.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
But they definitely do kill them.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Most for the most part. Yeah, but that sometimes they
do kill just sometimes.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
When they're hungry or just in need of a kill.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
It's what's needed.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Yeah, kill or be killed, Kill or be killed.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I always say that, Like when I think of horror films,
I always think about like the idea that remember when
you see like the Frankenstein or monster going down the
town hall and people are chasing them with torches. Yeah,
then I always ask myself, like, who's the real monster,
Who's the real monster? There because that person's understood, singled out,
chased by you know, the majority and being chased and

(08:58):
it's like, no, let's put a mirror right in front
of the real monsters are the ones with the pitchforks
And yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Know absolutely, And that's that's something that I feel like
in a lot of horror films in the genre, you
have that moment where the audience starts sympathizing with the
with the villain, whoever that is, even you know, like Jason,
you start, you know, from Friday of the thirteenth, you
start sympathizing with him.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yeah, you know, you feel bad, like all it was
is those other monsters, the kids bullying and like you know,
turning him into that monster.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
But yeah, I feel like that's such a good part
of horror movies is when they a good horror movie
can manage to make you like see why.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Because they're just nailed on the nose. Monsters are made.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, you know, like it's like when you think of
like kids, you know, like kids aren't born like mean
or racist or like those things are taught.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, someone's teaching these little monsters. Yeah, nagy, where are you?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
The thin is teaching a little monsters. But it's like
that that idea. It's I love how that genre always
intertwines into like real life and that like woor idea.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
But anyways, we're getting so serious at.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
The podcast or behind the shadows, but I like it,
like having like real conversations with real artists and actors
about stuff like this. Yeah, so, how did you know
you wanted to become an actor performer?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Honestly, Like, I just loved making people like laugh, like
you know, always attention seeking, constantly wanted, you know, people's
approval in the sense of like, whooh, you're so funny,
but every performer, yeah, no, you want the applause that
feels so good tinker Bell exactly. And so then when

(10:50):
I found like acting it, I was like, oh, this
is how I want, you know, to put myself out there.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Started with Commune Theater.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Loved it, and actually, I feel like the moment I
realized I wanted to be an actor was when my
friends and I in elementary school would like reenact episodes
of Hannah Montana and like.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
It was really I was really in it. I was
like loving it.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Did you reenact the finale the last episode with the windows? Yes?
And the music.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, whoa whoa whoao for sure?

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah that episode where she like you know, reveals her
her double personality.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
I love that one.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
It would just be like, so you were reenact this
with your friends just for fun, or like you put
it on like a little show, or just like.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
At recess, we would just be like right there, like
by the lunch tables, just doing this, and teachers would
pass by and we're like, what are you why that's
so cool?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, like the Belly show at lunch for.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Sure, I was just like, I'm the lead, I'm Hannah Montana.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Otherwise we're not doing this, Like.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Would you cast everyone else? Like you just say you clean this?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Ah? So you directed as well? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:07):
No, yeah, do you want to direct?

Speaker 4 (12:08):
And like as a as a thing.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
I'm a little intimidated by it.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Why is that just I've seen like being on a
set the directors.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
It's definitely a team effort, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, but that too, like you really have to trust
the people you're working with.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
I think that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I would be intimidated to like be with someone who
we have those conflicting visions and it just makes the
process more difficult. But also you're carrying just as much
as the actors. You're carrying a production. You're really commanding
the room, and you have to make those relationships.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I mean, we had a really great director on Blue
Beetle we did. Yeah, so he's phenomenal. I think that
talk about control team, control of the room, and knowing
what he wants executing it, which could be hard sometimes.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I hear you when he says it could be intimidated.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, and all while being.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
A good person to be around, like someone knew who
you're not.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Just have you had some directors that you did not
like as much?

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Feeling some tea, I go, you don't.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Have to see any names. But the business is full
of people.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
The business is full of people.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, but definitely I've worked with some directors that you know,
you go to one director and it's like amazing, and
you're like, oh wow, yeah, so that experience wasn't great,
Like so this is how it should be.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
On the set, you know. So yeah, I think you know,
I'm sure you have to. I'm sure, I'm sure I've
had a couple.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm trying to think of a scenario where when I
first got started acting, like eight years ago, and I
was doing like student films and stuff, right, yeah, kind
of like the newbie student film directors who were like,
you know, they thought there were was Corsezy already. So
then I remember it was one scene and I ended
up using this as a character later on another project.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
But it was like it was noisy.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
There was like a plane going by, there was traffic,
and I was like, cause, you need like no silence
for the scene obviously, And I was like, oh, can
we use this and they're like yeah, roll it, roll
the camera and I was like, okay, so I want
to say that I love and if I say one
more thing, and he was like, yeah, we're good, perfect,

(14:26):
and I was like I don't think we could use
any of that. No, I know what I'm doing. And
I was like, look it and then cut to like pickups.
If you know what pickups means. We didn't get it.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Later on, they're like.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
We need you to come back in and I was like,
why I thought we got it. We didn't get it right,
and I was like, oh, okay. So it's weird to
be in a position where you're like, you know, you
think you might have an idea and you're like I
think that we should probably not record while there's a
plane in a train going by at the same time.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
I'm not a director or anything, but I think I
know how sound works.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
But yeah, it's hard to say and like to speak up,
you know, we way off f think about projects in
your career so far? What is the next thing you
want to do? Like what are you excited to do?
You played so many, like different roles and they're all

(15:16):
different from each other, Like what do.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
You want to be next?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I definitely want to keep writing that process or that
trend of like playing different characters each time, because I
think that's the most fun part of acting. But definitely
want to tap into horror. I think I've always wanted
to had the brief stint on American horror stories. Uh,
the anthology series, not the the American horror story.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Ryan Murphy's did be so dirty, putting me in that
bucket hat so dirty, so dirty, thank you, thank you.
But initially my character was going to die and then
they were like, oh, but you're so sweet and your
character is so likable, like it'll be so sad, and
I'm like, that's the point, Like I want my head
cut off, you know, like, I want to be like

(16:06):
bathing in fake blood by the end of this scene.
And so that didn't happen, and so I was like, dang, Like, yeah,
I was in the horror, but I want to be killed,
kill or be killed.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
I think you're gonna get those shirts made.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
I want to be killed.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I want to be killed, kill or be killed exactly,
just walk around with those. I think it's going to happen.
I think it's definitely gonna happen, hopefully.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
You know. I've been working on my screams, you know, yeah,
you want to give us in the last two In
the last two. In the last two projects, I got
to scream a lot.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah. Yeah, isn't it fun?

Speaker 8 (16:44):
Though?

Speaker 4 (16:44):
I got to scream a couple of times on like yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
It's so it just feels by the end of it,
you're like, oh, you needing to get that out?

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yeah, like, oh that felt good, therapeutic, felt like a burp,
you know, just a really good burp.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Just get it out of this. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
But if you were to pick like one specific type
of horror that you were like, oh, this is what
I would play, and this is what I would love
to see come to floorish, what would that be?

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Maybe you can manifest it right now.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Ooh, story man, a full moon is coming, yes, October
ninth coming?

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Is that today? No? No, that's tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Borrow, So perfect time right now, right, yeah, pitch me
this idea right now, really quickly.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'm all yours elevator, Pitch, elevator, pitch. Tell me what
you're thinking.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Okay, So I'm thinking really play into the fact that
I look like six years younger than I actually am,
like a twelve year old very sweet, kind of bringing
into like my usual characters of like funny, little cutesy,
and then I just want to be this mass slasher,
like just like Major Killer and like the most brutal

(17:50):
where you're like this twelve year old girl is just
like the worst villain.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
I think that would be really fun.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
You just pitched a movie. Will you guys watch that?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Right, that sounds pretty Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
And definitely I love horror comedy, like I love when
a horror movie is funny, so would want it to
be like horror comedy slasher.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, yeah, I love I genuinely love doing horror comedies.
I have Yeah when it comes out tonight on Comedy
Central at eight pm.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
I will be watching I will be watching.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
H called Curse Friends, So check that out. It's actually
has an amazing cast. It has like, yeah, that cast
Stellar and like Nicki Glazer and Rob and Nicole and
like it's just the list goes on and on, like
it was just it's so fun to play with comedians. Yeah, horror,
like because usually you don't see those things together, but

(18:42):
no one does horror better than comedians because it's just
over the top. The screams and everything are over the top.
But yeah, so that's coming out tonight. That's a selfID like, yeah, no,
get that in there. I someone told me they saw
billboards on Times Square, so I gotta go check those out.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
So I go see those billboards and Times Square? Did
you do that? I do that when like a film
comes out and there's.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Like we were literally just there getting videos of me
like hey really just poke asad.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
And like waiting and being like that that's my face.
But yeah, no, it's surreal. I mean Times Square, like.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I mean, it doesn't get bigger than that, no, truly,
and it's it never gets old, like yeah, like I
every time I see a billboarder project I still get
like you know, teenage me, like excited and like want
I always want to go take a picture because you
never know that's gonna be the last one. Yeah, yeah,
you never know way to get yeah, because you never know,

(19:39):
like in this in this business, No, you don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
It could be six months or two weeks between the projects.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Two weeks yea. Yeah, that's a good way of pretty nu.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
So you're like I love them and I collect them
and I take a picture and I become a tourist.
One time I had somebody actually asked me if I
wanted because I was doing a selfie.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
And they're like, do you want me to take a
picture of you?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
And I was like yeah, And I don't think they
understood what I was saeking a picture of because it
took a picture and I was like at the billboard
and they didn't like my faces on it, and they're
just like here.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
You go walked away.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
It's like thank you, that's that's the that's mean show.
Yeah that's me. And they're like what and I.

Speaker 9 (20:12):
Was like nothing, nothing, have a good day, have a
good day, sir.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, they'll be pictures and like yeah, but I actually love
that because then it's like it's my movement, Like I'm
having this little like yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Like what you were saying about like it being like
for teenage you middle school you like for me, I
just want to like take a picture and like send
it to all my bullies and be like, yeah, you
see that that's your girl.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Success is the best revenge. It really is.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
And everyone would always say that, you know that, that's
a common saying, and then when it happens, you're like
you're right, like yeah, this feels this feels great.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, And I don't have to get like physical or
anything or yelling. It was just like yeah, success, yeah,
just as nice.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah. So what do you want to say to all
your bullies are listening to?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Or now I want to say stream hocus Pocus too
on Disney.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Bus and Blue Beetle will be out next August.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well said.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well said, now, I want to see if anyone has
a couple of questions our times wrapping up with Belly,
but I want if anyone has questions for her, If
you want to line up to the side right here
or in the side of it there while we're talking,
and then we'll take your question really quick about in
the meanwhile, we'll keep talking. Okay, going back, So when
you got started, how old are you like at performing.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, like community theater and all that. Probably I think, Well,
my first play was in fifth grade?

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Will you want go the musical?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (21:40):
I played Grandpa Joe? Yeah? Hold on?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Can we talk about Grandpa Joe? What kind of character
development did you do? Because in my head, what a
bum like that?

Speaker 5 (21:51):
No? Yeah, what a bum like?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
He doesn't walk and doesn't work, and his family's like
scratched like, and then he gets the chocolate ticket and
all of us suddenly can walk.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Exactly what am I am? I? Oh? Nice convenience? Is
this weird?

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Does anyone else think that was weird?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
That he wasn't a bed and all of a sudden
he gets his golden ticket and gets the you.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Know to oh I can walk? Is that weird?

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Okay? How did you perceive it?

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Definitely fifth grade me was just like, what a total
bum like? No, but kind of just like looked at
my grandpa and was like, yeah, that's gonna be perfect.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
That's gonna be it.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
But yeah, it was a musical and after that role,
I think everybody realized singing is not my forte and
it was fun.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
What why do you not sing at all? You don't
like singing?

Speaker 10 (22:54):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (22:55):
I like singing.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I think most of the time when I sing, I'm
singing as a joke, just because I don't want people
to be like, damn really, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I think you had such a cool voice. I guess
who was talking to you about this, Doug Jones. We
were saying that your voice is so unique and cool
that I'm surprised you're not doing more animation stuff because.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Your voice, I know, I really want to.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds like the best one just in
a booth, like, yeah, racking it up, you.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Know, next episode? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because your voice is
so unique. That's the one thing that was like, yeah,
your voice would be like no one can do her voice,
Like she's the one.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Has to do that voice. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Yeah, put me on big mouth.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, I'll make a call Nick.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Nick Crow's on our show actually last season.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, and I did his spin off a big of
hr his spin off.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so I saw that too.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
You were great, Thank you playing a spider in that.
Maybe we should make a call. Can we get Nick
Roll on the.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Phone, Yeah, speaker FaceTime on the.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Phone, make a phone call. But yeah, I think voice
over would be so good.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
That would be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Okay, so you decided that singing's not for you because
for whatever reason, you thought you couldn't see.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Well, also I had two singing coaches be like, you
should go to an ear nose and throat doctor and
check that out. They were like, did you have asthma
as a kid. They were like, interesting, okay, you should
see someone.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Your coaches yes, And after that, I.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Was like, I don't think we need to pay for
vocal lessons, mom. I think it's a lost costs.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I think you can always carry a tune, you know, yeah, yeah,
carry a tune.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Oh, you're going for a question. Okay, you can ask
right here because we can hear you. I don't want
you to walk over there. I feel bad you grabbed
that cane and I was like, no, no, miss, please
sit down.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
I will take the question right here.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, oh, thank you.

Speaker 11 (24:51):
We have movie and my family since cod and we
we watched a movie and and then we meet on
zoo discuss it and I love that and his family,
my daughter and her family and such.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
His wife, still friends, wonderful.

Speaker 11 (25:15):
What I loved about it was how well writing was
as kids that I'm a retired teacher. You sounded like kids,
the three girls and what I didn't know whether this
was Antlin or not, but oh my god, oh my.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
God, must do a lot of that was Yeah, that
was all I heard.

Speaker 12 (25:42):
My granddad.

Speaker 11 (25:42):
Yeah, you sounded that way, and you just did a
really good job.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
I wanted to thank you. Thank you very nice.

Speaker 10 (25:55):
So yeah, yeah, yeah whatever.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
Yeah ad lib No, definitely.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
And I kind of just thought about like when I
was fifteen and how I talked just so angsty and
like everything is the biggest thing to ever happen right now. Yeah,
but think you that means a lot.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah, I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I remember when you saw one of the previews, you
like texted me and it was like, you look twelve,
great job I did.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
I was.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I was in New York for the Disney upfronts and
it was the first time ever they had released the
footage of the preview. And this was like months before
when saw the preview and they were only gonna show
it in this room and he couldn't videotape or obviously
I was watching it and as soon as it was done,
I like texture and I was like, oh my god,
he looked like you're twelve and so cool, like at

(26:52):
the opening scene where that the floor opens the special
but really well done, and that was just the sneak
peak of the movie.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
So everyone got really excited in the room.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know, it was it was a big deal. And
you're part of this, like you know, you're part of history.
Now you're part of hocus pocus like history that's you.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, Well when you say it like it's a little scary, no, because.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
If you're gonna be part of history for a lot
of things, you know, this is just the beginning of
like many, many, many things. Uh, speaking of improv, you're
really good at improva. You ever take any improv classes?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, I went to this uh performing arts high school,
a public school, and we definitely had improv classes. And
I think my favorite thing that like really loosened me up,
like physically was a clown class. I don't know if
you've ever taken a clown class. Yes, that really gets you.

(27:45):
I mean you can't talk and it's all like you
make this character completely. Each clown is different. So I
really enjoyed that. I feel like that really helped me
as an actor, and.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
That really does prove you're good with comedy, that it
can be internet you don't need a language for it. Yeah,
if you can actually make someone laugh with your body movements,
facial expression, you don't need to know the language because
the language of comedy is just your body and face.
So if you can, you know, transcend that anywhere, that
means you're actually really good at comedy.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
Oh my god, thank god doing it. Thank god you're
doing it.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Okay, before we wrap up, because I know we're going
to have the other half of the session.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
We're going to talk about shadows and questions and all that.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
But before you go, I want to ask you, and
I've asked everyone on the podcast, if you had a
drink at nauseas that was catered to you, just you,
what would it be called and what would it consist of?

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Oh my god, so it's a cocktail.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
It could be anything. You can make it up. What's
your favorite cocktail? Or makeup on the spot, whatever you
want to do. I didn't tell her I was going
to ask this question.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
He did not.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
He did not, So I.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Think it would definitely be you know, you don't see
the use of banana often enough, don't in a drink,
So I'd want something banana.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
And dakari na.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Okay, Yeah that sounds good, cool liqueur okay. Oh yeah.
I feel like my friend already knows where I'm going
with this, but I think it would.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Be Minion themed. Oh yes, you love me. I love
them things.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I love them and you love them, and it would
be Minnini Bellini.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Yeah, that's perfect.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
You guys with that, let's say thank you to Belly
for coming on the show.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
We have way more on a life.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Hi.

Speaker 13 (29:50):
So Hocus Focus is like such an iconic property and
series and a big part of a lot of people's childhoods.
I was wondering if there was any other series that
you could, like, iconic series that you could do a
sequel to.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
What series would you pick?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Oh that's such a good question. Oh my gosh, I
really love and like on the theme of like horror,
bringing back Halloween Town would be really cool.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
But I'm sure a lot of us feel the same.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
And you know they're married now, the two co stars,
so like bring them back. Maybe they have a baby,
who knows, Maybe the baby is like involved in the
like Witchery, the Halloween town stuff. Yeah, that would be
a cool one. I don't know that Disney would let
me do that since I literally was just in hocus focus,

(30:46):
but it would.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
A girl can dream.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Never know, you never know, you never know. You are
part of the Disney family. Yes, you know we can
use them all over.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, good question, Thank you?

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Hello, Hello.

Speaker 14 (30:58):
I just wanted to say thank you first of all
for the representation, you know, just seeing brown people and
like all of these like magical shows. I am such
a big fan of like magic and things like that.
Harvey essentially asked my question already, but I was gonna
ask what for both of you? What is your favorite
fall flavor? Are you a pumpkin spice? Are you an
apple cider? Is there anything else?

Speaker 5 (31:19):
I can't think that's a really good one.

Speaker 15 (31:21):
Good.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, are you pumpkins spice?

Speaker 5 (31:25):
You know what? I think there's some stigma around pumpkin space.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Sorry, get down to it.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
This is the Tippe is great space.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
It's a good flavor, really good flavor. My sister and
I we wait till the date comes out at Starbucks.
Yeare at the door.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I love Are you trying to camp out.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Well, they should have it sooner, is what I'm saying.
So when I'm at the door knocking in the heaven.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Ope, you every day you're like, yeah, where's the pumpkin spice?

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Where's the pumpkins spice? You know, it's just anyways, the league.
I can't talk about.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
It, getting emotional, getting frustrated and.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Talk about it because my lawyers in the bag and
telling me to stop and we haven't resolved everything.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
But I like pumpkin.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
I would say.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Cider donuts, donuts. You guys like those donuts for fall.
Those are so good.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
And I feel like it's an East Coast thing.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
So when I'm in the East Coast, like you'll get
them in Boston, you get them in Salem, you get
the New York and then you go to West Coast
and it's like what like in LA, Like You're like,
can I get a cider donut?

Speaker 5 (32:25):
They're like no, but we have a kombucha donut.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, Oh what does that taste like? And it's like
we don't know, we don't try that, don't try that.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
We're in LA. It's like, okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
But I like cider donuts and a pumpkin now I
want one.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah, right, we're gonna go great questions.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
So sorry, that was really good.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
That was great. Yeah, hello, hello, hello.

Speaker 16 (32:52):
I had to think of a new question because the
other person asked my question because it was amazing and
Halloween Town's my favorite Disney Halloween. Hocus Pocus is very
close but so fantastic. And I guess this is a
good segue into the Shadows section because I was wondering
my backup question if, since you're also a Shadows fan,

(33:16):
if you have a favorite Laslo slash matt very pronunciation
of a word.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh my god, I mean, this question is pretty I'm
like answering the question for her being like, oh my god,
well there's this one.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I don't know, there's that one. I've used this over
and over.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
What I think again going back to my favorite episode
of like, oh what has the doc Lord brought that?
I think when I heard that line, I was like
ten second, rewind, ten second rewind.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, that's a good thank you, very good, thank you.
I love that question.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
You'll stick with the bat over and over. I mean
last season he did New York cite.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Like Manhattan Manahatta, which actually little his story about that
Manahatta is a proper way to pronounce Manhattan that the
natives pronounced. So he's actually pronouncing it the way he
heard it the first time he came to America.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
What detail, So Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Is not how you pronounced Manhattan, it's manahatta and he
actually pronounces the way you're.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Supposed to Boom boom mic drop.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Fun fact.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Okay, so we can move on to the question you
want to see up here and just answer questions with
me for shadows. Oh god, yeah, I like let her
go in, but I'm having so much fun. Should we
just have her stay with me?

Speaker 7 (34:40):
Right?

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay, if you have a question for shadows, line up
over here, because we got some time. Yeah, Matt Barry
and his like annunciation of things, like we were shooting.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yesterday, I was, I was shooting last night.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Yeah. I literally came here from the airport.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Literally came from the air Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I was shooting till two in the morning, and then
I got to the airport at four thirty and then
I got a six am flight, and then I got
here and here.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yet New York, New York City.

Speaker 15 (35:13):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I love it. Okay, question over.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Here either, I think Gearmo is actually one of the
best characters recently. There's so much potential a because of
the he's gay, he wants to he's a van helsing,
he wants to be a vampire. Uh do you think,
I know, you probably dont want to be Uh, you know,
kind of pigeonholed with that character. But do you think
there's like long term there's just so many possibilities with

(35:35):
the character, like for other series or books or is.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
There any do we say anything but more with Gearmo?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I mean, I think that we kind of joked a
little bit like season two Caveon and I because we
had so many scenes together and the fans had really
responded to, like, you know, their dynamic together. And lucky
for me that I get to work with Kavon, who's
such you know, it's hard sometimes and you get to
set in like you meet someone and hopefully you have chemistry,
and when you do have chemistry, you're like, oh man,
I went so easy.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
You're just like I love it.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, you get you know, like we were like I'm
going back to like Blue beet or like you there's
like sets that you're like, I want to stay on
the set for so long. Yeah, And there's some sets there,
like let's wrap it up. Yeah, it's like, but I
would love for like, you know, spin off or something
where we land with because we're picked up for season
five and six. We're we're a quarter of the way

(36:23):
done with season five already. We just we started we
do quarters, and we just finished the first quarter two
days ago, and we started the next quarter last night.
Uh so we're all like one fourth of away done again.
But I don't know whether he's gonna land on season
six because they don't tell me ahead of time. Like
I actually thought that, you know, he would be doing

(36:46):
the van housing thing for only season two and then
going back to like so he stayed with that through
season four and then we saw I mean, spoiler, who
hasn't seen season four finale okay, so I can talk
about it, Okay, So you.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Know, matters into his own hands.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
He's tired of waiting and he's tired of being pushed over,
and that could be the best thing, and it goes
to be the worst thing, you know, So we have
to see what that outcome is and where he lands
at the end of season five, and then where he
lands at.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
The end of season six.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
So for all, I know, you know who knows, you know,
like it's like I would love it.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
I would love it. I think a cartoon, animated series
or a comic.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Book that would be so cool.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
That'd be so cool.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I want to see that bad ass man housing inside
of him completely you know, kick ass, so it.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Could be blake, you know, like.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Video game, video game.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, yeah, good question, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Hello. Hello.

Speaker 8 (37:40):
First of all, I love seeing you hang out with
Trixie and Katya so much. I would love to see
him on What we do in the Shadows so bad.
But I wanted to know from this last season, what
was your favorite like improv moment, because it seems like
there was a lot of it, especially in the Colin
Robinson going to a school episode.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Trying to get ahead.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
So I was just wondering what that was for you
this year.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
I mean, yeah, you nailed.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I think that was probably our That was the simplest
set episode, which it was just in a room and
it was like a play because we did so many setups,
you know, like it was just like you're.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Moving in out, moving in like you know, and your cues.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
That was probably the funniest one to do because we
were with the bear.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
The bear was married to keV or like.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Lasla was with me, like I was holding his hand
and then he like leaves and like I still pretend
that he's my partner.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Was like, baby, please don't go.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
You know, it's just like jokes like that that I
didn't think we're going to be picked up and actually
picked him up and they edited that day was full.
We shot that scene for like two days and then
you see it for like, you know, eight minutes or
nine minute. But man, with this group improvising, it's just
like you don't know what they're going to say, you know,
so you're always on your toes, like you're just like
we call it playing hot potato, and no one ever

(38:53):
drops the potato.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Like every time they had to tell.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Us to stop the stop playing stop stop because you'll
keep going.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
We'll just keep going forever.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
In the season one, we did an improv that lasted
like twenty two minutes. Oh like straight the whole show
is twenty one twenty two minutes long, and so there
was no way we could use all that improv, but
it was so funny and it's still one of my
fondest memories. Like like Caevon coming in or Nandor and
he's so Ghieremo gyere mo and he comes like, I'm
in the room, Master and he's oh yeah, Mom, Like,

(39:21):
I'm in the room, yeah mo.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
And I was like, I'm in the room.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Just come to the room.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
And I exit and he comes into another door.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
He's, oh, yeare Mo, I'm in the room.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
And he's like this guy and he lets it and
then I come back in and I'm like, where did
he go?

Speaker 4 (39:36):
And then Nausea comes in. He's like, you stupid, what
are you looking for?

Speaker 3 (39:39):
You know?

Speaker 5 (39:39):
And I was like, oh, Nando.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
He's like, he's in the other room and he excited
so like, and then Lazo comes in.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
It was Gizmo thoughing, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
And it was like back and forth like forever, and
it was the funniest thing and you'll never see it.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
I was about to ask aways the footage for that.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
We don't show bloopers. They like keep them close in
the vault. One day, I think they will. I got
this close to showing them on the after show, and
we had a like ready to go.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
We had set up the video and everything.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
We got approval and at the last minute they were like, no,
we can't show it, just don't show it, And I
was like, what why, And then like they're gonna save
it for like you know, something special or like say
forever forever.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
I never showed to anyone. I'm hoping that's not the case,
but I think they will show them eventually.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
But there's gonna be get ready, like you're gonna need
to go weekend because there's so much footage.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
A good question, Yeah, thank you. Hello, Hi, Hi.

Speaker 17 (40:27):
I have a very serious question and it's been haunting
my dreams and I think you're the only person that
can really answer this.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
What kind of sweater is best? I knew this day
would come.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I'm really into a good sweater vest. Sweater vest right
now it's fall, it's fun, you know, Yeah, look at
good sweater vest.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Yeah, you've rocked a couple of swetter vests. I've said,
yea sweater Yes, yeah, I think sweater vest. You're welcome.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
I think that was like one of the hardest questions.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
I think, so I really kind of like took a
second there.

Speaker 15 (41:06):
Hi.

Speaker 12 (41:06):
Hi. My question is, Harvey, if you could switch places
with anyone on Shadows, either cast.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Or crew, who would you want to switch with?

Speaker 5 (41:16):
Oooh? I love that you added crew in there.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
I know, Trud.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I mean if I if I did one of each,
if I did crew, I would love to do the
boom guy because he just gets to hear everything, and
like a part of me thinks that we're being spied on.
We're not on set right because we're a microphones or
on our bodies the whole time. And so sometimes you'll

(41:42):
be talking, we're like oh yeah, and then it's like
oh wait, and then I heard You're like.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Yeah literally, also I heard that that doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
I heard didn't work.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
That they can just hear it and it's like slightly
faded yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
And then so when I ever like someone's telling me
a secrets.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Like did you hear but I was like what oh yeah,
when you go like yeah yeah and.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Then you see the boom guy in the corner.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Like yeah yeah, or like I'm always afraid, Like when
you go to the bathroom and it's like a big one.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
And that's a big one, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Yeah, and then you come back, yeah taking it off.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
You come back and the boom guys just like looking
at you weird.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yeah, You're like hey, what's up?

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Like, hey, you took a little long.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, I would say the boom Guy. That's what's fun character.
I mean, I really do love playing Guillermo.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I really do. And then I would switch it off.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I don't know if I could pull it off, but
I love when Nandor does his accent or Cavan does
Nander's accent because I try to do it and it's
just so funny to me. So I would probably switch
for a day, but that's too long because it's so exhausting.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Probably do that accident all the time.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
So yeah, the boom Guy would be number one.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, thank you, hey, and I like your sure you
wearing the Guillermo's Germo shirts and the Guillermo cosplay.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Nice.

Speaker 18 (42:57):
So my question was you both sort of broken superhero
genre recently with Blue Beetle and Harvey as night Wing
and Harley Quinn. But if you were to play super villain, Yes,
if you were to play a super villain, what would
your power be?

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Ooh?

Speaker 16 (43:13):
Nice?

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Will be your super if you're a villain? No, you
go for it? Oh gosh?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Okay, I mean I've always liked like Telekinesis, you know,
so I want to be like I guess I bet
it was that Magneto.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Yeah, I was about to say, that's something like that, but.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I also want to have like something else. I don't
want to sound like greedy, but that's it and you
can take it. He's like, oh, you know, what villain
would I do?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I would have to ask some kind of like great
laugh or cackle, you know, and maybe a cat you know,
some kind of cat.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Powers.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
That's kind of who I was gonna say what I
wanted to be like, because like he doesn't have powers
so evil, he's so evil like and the pinky thing that.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Yes, and the way he treats his son.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Yeah, and also dude, mini me, mini me, Yes.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Okay, I think that answers that we're rebooting.

Speaker 17 (44:20):
Hello, I guys, I guess my question is is I mean,
clearly Giermo's ride or die with the vampires, but if
he was to get disillusion with the vampires, what other
supernatural faction would he join in the city. So if
he did become a vampire, what other if he if
he was to get disillusioned with the vampires, like he
didn't want to become a vampire or anything, got it,
would he joined the werewolves? Would become a movie.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I think he's he's like like he's committed to like
I think he wants to be that so bad. But
if he wasn't, i'd say, lean into the van helsing,
you know, like he's really naturally good at that. I
think you forget. Sometimes we're like, this is what will
make my life so great and perfect if I had
this job and this is my partner and this is
where I live in the house, And sometimes the universe

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is like, okay, sure, but you'd be really happy over here,
you know. So sometimes you gotta let go of things.
And I think at that point, if you didn't get
what you wanted, I'd say, listen to the universe.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Just yeah, listen to the universe. Yeah all of us.
Good question.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
Thank you spent time with your family, like you're literally there.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
I haven't seen your mom in like fourteen years. Yeah,
go spend time with your familymo geez hi.

Speaker 13 (45:36):
Hello.

Speaker 15 (45:37):
First of all, I just wanted to say thank you
because I think everything you're doing in shadows and in
your career is changing the industry for the better.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 15 (45:47):
Yes, like seeing you out there like openly queer and
a person of color and of different body types. I
think I wanted to be an actor for a really
long time. I have a degree in it, and I
at the end, I was like, LA is not for me.
Someone like me, who looks like me is never going
to do that. And to see you up there and

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being as successful as you are it if so many
people hope as to what the industry can look like
and what it should look like, thank you.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Yeah you are an actor.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
You are Yeah, you enough to be in Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
And I hope that this is just a reminder that
I was exactly the same mindset that you had because
of what Hollywood told us was you know, your leading
a person look like, what your leading lady look like,
what your heart throp look like, what your comedian look like.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
And you've got to stop listening to.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Those voices because we're the ones who go and watch
a movie in theaters. We're the ones who want to
be represented on screen. You know, if being a person
of size makes Hollywood like shriek and it's like, what are.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
You talking about?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
You know most of America is average that you know
what I mean, And it's just like where is this
coming from? So you got to change the narrative, And
so I took that leap because for so long there
wasn't anyone who looked like me on television, And so
if you don't see yourself represent it, then become the first.

Speaker 9 (47:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (47:07):
Yeah, And now for my silly question, Shadows has had
so many interesting mythological creature show up, Sirens, the Jersey Devil.
If you could have any mythical creature show up, what
would you want it to be?

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Well, I do like sirens, and the siren we had
was half chicken, so I would like a mermaid siren.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm a big fan of mermaids.
So when I read that on the script, I was like, oh,
a siren, and I automatically assumed how presumptuous of me,
And I was just.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Like sirens, so like a mermaid.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Like, no, it's a different kind of siren, A singing
siren who's bottom half his chicken legs.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
So I would say, like a mermaid siren. That sounds cool?

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Hear that.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Whoever's listening to Shadows right now, thank you and revisit
acting to visit it?

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Yeah, do it right, guys, Yeah.

Speaker 19 (48:04):
We have way more fun as a life.

Speaker 15 (48:14):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (48:15):
So this season, Guillermo comes out to his family, and
I was wondering kind of how that felt like for
you playing that scene and kind of preparing for it.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yeah, that's a good question. So it was kind of
it was.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
It was weird because it felt so close to home,
like it was therapeutic in a way, but it was
also like triggering because you're in that moment and and
telling you know, you have to.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Remember the reason that came out.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's because he's had this like lie on his shoulders,
not only about his sexuality, but that he worked at
the at the rail you know, the railroad that he
worked at, got a promotion from Panera that he worked
that he owns this man.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Then Naja is his girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Like the lies, the lies, the lies, they keep highling
on on him, and that's a heavyweight, you know, to
carry on your back. And I think what was the
last straw was that his chosen family, which is Nausea,
and his biological family were about to destroy each other,
and he got in the middle of both of them,

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his chosen family protecting Nausea and also protecting his mom
and his aunt and grandma and his cousin, all of
his family. Just because that was the last straw. He
couldn't take it anymore. So he was made to like say,
he's like and I don't and I want to be
a vampire. I live he because I want to be
a vampire and not just not my girlfriend because I'm gay,
you know, just saying it was just the last breath

(49:44):
of like, you know, in that silence of like. And
it felt so emotional to me because being a queer
person and having my own coming out story, I know
that what we reflected on screen was really lovely that
the family was really accepting, and I was like, you know,
if my family was accepting, but that's not always the case.
And so for me, it was more pretty myself in

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his shoes, fearing that they wouldn't accept him, and that
fear like petrified and like and thinking back, it was
just like where I got more emotional and teary eyed
because it was like, what if they don't accept me?

Speaker 17 (50:18):
You know?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And then we lightened it up with a joke, which
was you want to be a vampire, you know, and
they don't care about the gay part. They're like, we
don't care about that. You want to be a vampire?

Speaker 7 (50:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
That was the and that's where we Land, and we
were still making a comedy but with the really cool,
you know message, And it was just nice to to
tell that story, especially from a Latino family point of view,
because it's not always the same, you know, for everyone,
but it's not always the case that it's really welcoming,
and maybe by leading by example, you know, it would
have been nice to like if someone sees that and says, oh,

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I think my son's gay. Well, those comedy things.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
It's all right, you know what I mean, It's just
like then I guess it's.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Okay to be good, you know, So hopefully that's the case.
But it was very kind of therapeutic. Yeah, and it
brought me back to my own story.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
So good question. Thank you, Nicks.

Speaker 7 (51:10):
Hi Hi, So you do so well on Shadows, but
you did like such a good job, as did Grayson
on Harley Quinn.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
So how did you prepare for that? So, like, did
you read the comics or watch anything to prepare?

Speaker 15 (51:25):
Well?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
No, I've been such a fan of Batman like for years,
and the idea that they asked me to like read
for him, like to play, you know, did Grayson Nightwing
I kind of took the idea that he was you know,
basically Batman's apprentice or Bruce Wayne, and and he mimicked him,
and he would idolize him. And so the way that
I chose a voice for him was that he grew

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up watching this guy. He wanted to be Batman, he wanted.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
To be at his level.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
So he has like a little bit of you know,
Bruce Wayne, Like you know, his voice is down here,
you know, just like lower, and so I think it's
just a route you know, about the right amount of serious,
you know.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
So his voice is lower because he wants to be
taken serious. He just want to be a joke. And
then when he does like go of that persona, we
get to.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
See the real Dick rayson, which is sometimes kind of
loud and flamboyant, and he's just.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Like I'm gonna kill myself, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
It's just like ideas are like that's his real voice,
that's his voice. But then when he's putting on this
like I want to be you know, taking serious, I
want to be taken serious, you know, it's like he
goes down and octave. So he goes lower because he
wants to be taken serious. And that's the only way
he gets respect because if people hear him in his
real voice the whole time, peop are like, mm, I'm
taking serious, you know. So that's how I prepared for
Dick Rayson, and luckily the you know, the showrunner, and

(52:38):
everyone loved it, and we were back for another season.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Season and more Dick Rayson coming your way.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. Hello hi there.

Speaker 12 (52:50):
First off, like someone else mentioned, thank you for creating
a whole new arc type of action hero.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
It's awesome just to have that. Thank you.

Speaker 12 (52:57):
So the question I had is is this past season,
there was an episode that I thought was just gonna
be a bit for about five minutes, and then you
guys went whole hog on the go Flip Yourself episode.
Oh god, yeah, what was that line reading? Like table reading? Like,
what did you do when you found out? Yeah, no,
we're doing a whole episode of that.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I mean, if you notice we sprinkled it in early on,
you thought you were watching a commercial for an HDTV
like at that was actually our footage and it was
the scar brothers, who are so funny. It was these
twins who were comedian. You know, they're so great, right you.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Guys they have their own podcast or their own show
coming out.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
They're so funny, and that has to be one of
my favorite episodes last season because from beginning to end
it is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
We actually got like the same people.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Who work on those TV shows like to do, like
you know, the idea behind it, and if you listen
to the voice, you hear the voice and they're like
stan Island is a cozy place where you can live,
like that's the voice, and so it made it look
so real, like it felt so real and no spoilers,
but like at the end with Nick Kroll, like I

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couldn't when I read it, I was like.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Like this is genius, Like it's so funny, and to
set up a joke that in an episode that much, and.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Then we kill Toby like Toby dies and there's a
person and it's like, so Toby wasn't real, No, that
was a real man.

Speaker 9 (54:22):
Yeah, he was a family, he has kids, and you're like,
oh my god, you know this is like the tragedy
and put tragedy and then just to get the curse
Witch hat like it's insane.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
There it is like here the Curse witchh my gosh, it's.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Literally insane and that just goes. That's just the credit
to our writers and how brilliant they are that that
was like who thinks of that?

Speaker 5 (54:45):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
And we thought it was a one time gag, but
it kept going from every episode a little sprinkle and
it's one of my favorites.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
So yeah, great question.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
Hello, Hi.

Speaker 20 (54:57):
Okay, when you finally become a empire, who would you
pick from the current cast to be your familiar?

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Wait, do they lose like their like anyone from the cast?

Speaker 5 (55:09):
Yeah, well okay, like from the current vampires that live
in the mansion.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Okay, Oh, I think I would make like someone who
you releast expected, like Laslow because he's so he's so
like hoity toity, you know that. I would love to
see him pick up laundry, you know, and like you know,
like in season one when he's like.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Gizmo, how the dell? Does you know? Why don't you
go try them? Laslow? Do you go try them?

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah? I would love to like just boss them around,
Like Laslow would be the funny to boss around.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
I don't know if you would do it, but he
would be you know, like to familiar. Yeah, yeah, I'll
do it. Laslo that's a good one.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Can I ask another question?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Sure?

Speaker 20 (55:47):
Okay, when you become a vampire, what would be your catchphrase?
Like Blaslow has like bat like, what would be yours?

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I think that maybe he would have his own version
of that, but it wouldn't be as dramatic. Maybe if
you're like bad, you know, just like trying to take flight,
you know, or a higher pitch bat. I don't know,
maybe another catcher, what would be good? What would be
a good catcher if he's a if he's a vampire
to take flight? Like maybe in Spanish like yeah hello, yeah, yeah,

(56:20):
maybe that that's a good one.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
I could just see him big like here we go here, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Okay, we'll go with that one.

Speaker 18 (56:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Ooh Guiermo and Nando Hello Hello.

Speaker 21 (56:38):
So what was like your favorite moment from like filming
this past season?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
This past season, probably filming the baby Colin Robinson trying
to get into school with the head the head of
the school there. It was just funny to do brain
scramblings on him. Also, the Scar Brothers was really fun.
And I'd say my favorite favorite though would be the

(57:08):
action stuff and the hern which is the night market scene.
So that was like a mini movie and we had
like fairies and we had sword fighting and I fall
over and then do stunts, So that one was really
fun to do. I think that one was like a
mini movie and it was just action packed, So I
think that was my favorite one.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Yeah, the Night Market.

Speaker 21 (57:28):
Can I ask you a second question, sure, if you
had to pick like one episode either that like was
fun to film or just that you enjoy watching back, Like,
do you have a favorite episode out of the entire series?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Ooh, that's tough because that's like four seasons of stuff. Yeah,
I think this last season, the one that touches my
heart the most is the coming out episode of So
aside from the action stuff which is fun to do
and entertaining and visually stimulating, you know, stuff, when it
has heart like that really does feel good to do,

(57:59):
you know. Yeah, so it feels nice to like have
that in the middle of a comedy. Remember making a
comedy out of vampires, and in the middle of all that,
we got this human being who came out, you know,
which is really nice and sweet and and I had
so many people come up to me at cons and saying,
you know, Giermo's bravery at finally coming out shows you
there's no expiration date.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
You know, there's no like ticking you know.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Clock and time bombs says you must come out before
and it's like, when the time is right, it's right,
and if you feel like doing it, you're doing it,
and if you don't, you don't.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
So hopefully that's the message. But yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
A lot of the costumes, how did they how did
they film Baby Colin Robinson was toddler? There was we
had like a toddler, We had like an infant, and
we had like a a grade school and then we
had like a teenager and so basically we just shot
with them. We never saw Mark on set, that's crazy.

(58:54):
So we would act with the one who dances. It
was actually she dances. She's the lead in Sesame Street. Yeah,
so if you her name is Violet and if you
see Sesame Street, uh, she's so talented, beautiful, golden curls.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Violet. That's baby Colin Ronson.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
So when Mary Caloras is dancing, it's like olden days
and tap and like that's really them because they're phenomenal
like Broadway singer and dancer.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
We got the best of the best and then we
cover their face.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
I was gonna say, like is it but they could
see yes. I had like you know, we.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Actually recorded them with that nothing in their faces but
little like dots where we would put the CG and stuff.
But like they I felt so bad because they're doing
this amazing performance and we're all clapping for them, and
they're gonna be like I'm gonna be on what we
do in the shadows and then imagine the training on
the TV and they're like what.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
And it's just like Mark's face.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
My body, my body is where sure it is, take
her away.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Boys, It's just like nah.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
But yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I felt so bad for the kids because they were
like so excited and and the one that I had
in the when we're in the basement and it's flooding
and water like we're we like up to like knees.
I was worried because the water was up to like
you know, the child's like like body and so like
I have to pick them up and uh. And I
found out that day of that child actor it was
her first day acting ever, and so I was like, oh,

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and they're like so yeah, so if he's a little fussy,
and I was like okay, and he has to have
a hammer and he's swinging the hammer around.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
I was like, oh, oh my god, oh this is great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
The hammer is like you know, phony and whatnot. But
still he's like swinging it. But he went for it,
and I was like, oh, he loves.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
What he's doing.

Speaker 12 (01:00:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
It was just like he's gonna be a great actor
because he hits me with the hammer.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
So, oh, great question.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Next question, Hi, thanks for being here.

Speaker 10 (01:00:40):
So Girmo is my favorite, and poor Giamo ends up
in the most unfortunate circumstances all the time, like Barry's
dead bodies get shipped to London in a box, and
my favorite was gets into a familiar fight. So what
has your what's your favorite unfortunate Garmo circumstance, either to
film or just that you think is funny.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Probably the familiar fight.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I think that one of those moments where he didn't
want to fight at all, like he's being pushed to fight,
and then he beats all the familiars and then he
gets somehow involved fighting his master and it's like, how
did he get in these situations? It's most of the time,
and honestly, it's Nandor like Nandor, he like volunteers and he's.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Like, no familioking, kid, You're a familiars as you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
And it's like, stop saying stuff like that, you know.
So yeah, I would say that the familiar fight.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Can I say a quick second question?

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Sure?

Speaker 10 (01:01:29):
When you read for gear Mo, had you watched the
Shadows movie before that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I had not seen the movie at all, and I'm
glad I didn't because it was so good that I
would have been psyched. So I think we have to
wrap it up now because I think we're closing it up,
so they're telling me to wrap it up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
So, oh, what was you ask question?

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:01:48):
There's a there's a scene in episode two when you
get on top of a coffin, you plug you and
then you do a plancha.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
Yeah, that was on the script. The script that was
ad lib are you.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
We grew up watching I Can Tell You and stuff,
So I threw that in and they let it in.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
So it was brilliant.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I saw that. I was like, that's a Mexican podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Yeah, I'm American. From the lady. Thank you so much, Belly,
Thank you so much for reviewing my guest. Thank you,
Allo you for coming out and I hope you have
a wonderful media comic con.

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