September 8, 2022 • 39 mins
Today's guest is Baby Colin Robinson himself, tapping into our hearts. It's Mark Proksch. Discover how Mark chooses his iconic roles in Shadows, The Office, and Better Call Saul. And why does Mark choose not to do any preparation for his scenes in What We Do in the Shadows? Find out on a very special episode of Behind the Shadows.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to another episode of Behind the Shadows. I'm your host,
Hartigienn aka Giam de la Cruz. Today's guest is baby
Colin Robinson himself tapping into our hearts. It's Mark Proks.
Discover how Mark chooses his iconic roles in Shadows the
office and better Call sal and why does Mark choose
(00:28):
not to do any preparation for his scenes? And what
we do in the Shadows find out a very special
episode of Behind the Shadows.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Breathing this so bewhelming, i'd bezar has so tell me
why would anyone want to be alive? Death might have
a reputation before she arrives, but trust.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Me, we have way more on the aff line. We
have way more n the after life.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Okay, guys, we're back for another episode of Behind the Shadows.
I am super excited for our big finale guests, the one,
the Only, my friend Mark Porch.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Yeah, that actually got me.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
First of all, this has been such a cool year
for Colin the trajectory of the story. But before we
get to that, I want to talk about how you
got started in acting. Can you tell us a little
bit about how you got started in the acting world.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah, I did a well, I guess now it would
be called a viral video, a series of viral videos
that I had never intended to be viral. What I
did was I booked myself on these morning shows. And
(02:03):
I would go on these morning shows and they had
no idea that I was playing a character and I
was doing this to make my friends laugh. And so
I booked myself as this yo yo champion coming to
area schools to teach kids about the environment for the
use of my yo yo and which makes no sense,
(02:28):
but it had all these things that morning shows love.
It had you know, local interest, It had a hot
button topic like environmentalism, and it had a demonstration. And
so my friend and I sent out twelve press releases
to morning shows throughout the Midwest, and by the end
(02:52):
of the day we had ten bookings, and I did
I think about seven before these news stations start to
talking to each other and saying, did you have this
weird idiot come and do this interview with you? And
people started uploading these videos onto YouTube and dead Spin,
(03:18):
which was a big sports site, picked it up, and
the writers on various TV shows were watching these and
the writers from the office would watch them during their
lunch and my now wife, who was a writer on
(03:38):
the office, had just started working like two weeks ago,
and so she was bound and determined to figure out
who I was. And she did figure out who I was.
The writers Paul Lieberstein, who played it played Toby on
the Office, called me. He was running the show at
the time, and they flew me out to meet with
(04:01):
all the writers, and a month later I was on
the show.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
That's incredible, insane And we'll we'll insert video here because
I'm sure we can.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
Here you go.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Welcome back to Good Morning, four States. It is finally
Friday morning. Case Stross is back with this again from zipzapp.
We thank you for joining us this morning. You've got
your hands full of yoyo's right now. You got to
what for yoyos per hand?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Right right?
Speaker 8 (04:25):
And what I do is, uh, it's called the Blue
Flying Angel, Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And it's like, do I need to get out of
the way for this?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You do?
Speaker 7 (04:36):
You know what we do or I'll do is the kids.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
I'll get into the room and the kids will be
running around.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
I'll be all excited.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
And so I tried to start things off on their
level and try to hook them with something like a wrap.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
So it's and it's kind of clever because it includes
me okay, and it goes, hey, they're up in the sky.
It's the case stress the yo.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
And then I do that.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
Do do do doo yo yo yo, you know, and
I get them going and I get them into it.
And so when once I do that, they are ready
to learn.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
And there it is. That's what it was.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I can't well why I've seen your videos Mark, and
I thought you were a real yo yo instructor until
until you see this guy you know, repeatedly not do
a good job at it, and you keep such a
straight face, which is what I think is so great
about your comic uh timing and ability, is that like
(05:37):
I can't tell when you're being serious or you're doing
a bit because you keep grounded and you always keep
grounded and never show either way that you're like doing
a bit or not. And so sometimes I feel like
you fuck with my mind sometimes because you know that
you're purposely like talking to me about something, and you
go into like a calling mannerism and then I'm like
(05:59):
stop are you you?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
And You're like what what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
And it's just like you're so good at keeping it grounded,
which is hard for comedians to do, and you do
it so so well. And uh and and and my
question I guess is were you just always like that natural,
like funny growing up? Were you like the funny the
funny guy at school?
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Well, that's very kind of you to say. And I've
said it often that you're my favorite straight man I've
ever worked because you you just I can bounce anything
off of you and you know how to react and
so I love that about you.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Well, that's very nice. It's true though.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I think we have a Yeah, we've had some really
great moments this season, very tender moments of like co
parenting with Laslow and raising you.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It's just one of my favorite moments is playing baseball
with you this season and and you being a teenager
but like not getting his shit and you're just like
some of some of your delivery. Sometimes it's just like
I can't. It's hard to make me break on set
like I can't. I'm usually pretty good and it's you.
This season, there's a couple of takes that like I
(07:13):
just had to like cover my face to the side
because it's like your face in character as as a
teenage Colin Robinson delivering this dry like what was the
line in the base line is like baseball is fucking
stupid or something is something ridiculous where you just added
it and it just like made me break And it's
hard to do because it's, like you said, playing a
straight guy on a straight man on the show is
(07:36):
uh is you know, it's pretty hard just because you
guys are so funny. But you really kind of took
it to the next level this season. And but going
back to the question, were you always the funny guy
at school you've known as that?
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I mean, I wasn't like the class clown. I I
I always enjoyed comedy a lot, and that was clearly
where my talents, if any lied, I. I, you know,
(08:10):
I have funny brothers. I have three older brothers and
they're very funny. My mom and dad are very funny.
My grandparents were very funny. So it was, you know,
comedy was a big part of my upbringing and family
gatherings and stuff like that. We would always be laughing,
(08:31):
and I, you know, I would make short stupid videos
with my friends in middle school and high school and stuff,
and I knew that's what I really would want to
do if I ever could. But my family had no
idea of anything having to do with Hollywood. I mean,
(08:53):
we didn't have an adjacent uncle or anyone that had
any knowledge. There was no pathway really for me. I
would have to have had the confidence and the ego
to just say I'm going to Hollywood, and I never
had that. I mean growing up in the Midwest, you know,
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ego is the eleventh commandment that you're not supposed to have,
and so I just fell into that backwards. But I
didn't you know, I didn't really take much theater or
anything like that. I didn't go to I don't have
formal training and it you know, sometimes I think that
(09:36):
shows unfortunately, but but the comedy, I'm pretty confident I
can do.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Yeah, well you did very very very well.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
We have way off on me after life.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
And the idea that this season.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
I mean, when you got the news of Colin Robinson obviously,
you know, dying last season of the end of season three,
when you were told that he was going to be reborn,
what did you think, What was what was going through
your head? Like how's that going to happen or what
were you thinking?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yeah, I mean I was scared at first, because you
don't want to ruin You don't want your character to
be the reason people stop liking the show. And when
you say, oh, we're going to turn one of the
main cast members into a baby, you know that that's
(10:35):
kind of hard to swallow at first. The same and
grace was that our show is a cartoon basically, and
anything can happen because we're dealing with you know, vampires
and goblins and anything. So there was some leeway story
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to suspend one's disbelief a little bit with regard to that.
The other thing that I knew couldn't fail was the writing.
As we've talked about many times, I think we have
the best comedy writers in the in the game right
now working on our show. And so I figured it
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was up to me to ruin this, and I just
you know, I worked at it. I as you know,
like we come to set and we unless it's a
serious scene, I personally don't prepare much. And I do
(11:38):
that for a reason. And that's so when I get
on set, I because it's a mockumentary. If this was
better call Saul. I rehearsed the ship out of that
backwards and forwards, but with this, I want there to
be the ums and ohs and injected as I'm trying
(11:58):
to think of the next line or think of how
I'm going to do the next bit, because I feel
like as a documentary, you want to look real and unrehearsed,
and the same with our improv, and I know you
do the same. We don't come to set already having
improv worked out in our minds, because then it would
(12:21):
just seem faith.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And so I.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Was concerned with doing the baby part because there wasn't
going to be that level of improv that we're so
comfortable doing because ninety percent of what I did was
on a green screen and you guys already had your
(12:49):
lines filmed, and so I'm reacting to something that's already
set in stone. So that was a bit of a
challenge too. Yeah, hopefully hopefully it worked.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, Well, I was going to say that was probably
the most thing that we that we missed is that,
you know, being on set with each other, we can
actually have an improblem the moment, and because Baby Colin
is played by you know, we have young actors who
played the tangible body and head of you. Yeah, and
then we put dots on their faces and so then
(13:24):
you're putting too green screen to this, and so we
really can't improvise as much as we could when it's
already set in stone, like you said, and then you're like, oh, man,
that would have been a fun bit to do with
baby Colin back and forth, but we didn't get that
because of technology and because of the actual way that
the shooting schedule would go. But I think it came
out perfect because in a way, baby Colin's growing, developing,
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and all the adults around him are trying to figure
out how to raise this child and which you know,
what is taking places at nurture versus nature or you know,
or vice versa. And so it's the adults dealing with
this child and Colin living in their own sweet world
is kind of its own thing that you kind of created,
where he cares about musicals and legos and kind of
(14:08):
that's a child, Like a child is always just involved
in like the world they've created for themselves. They really
don't know about what's going on around them. They're aware
and they're smart and they can listen, but they create
their own world, you know, And and I think that
kind of worked in our favor. With the baby Colin especially,
I love that he loves musicals.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Yeah, and that's you know, that's a storyline I've wanted
to have for Colin is theater on some level, and
musical theater, which I personally love and I think we
all love on the show, and Paul Simms has confessed
(14:49):
his love for musical theater. But it's such a fun
target at the same time, even when you're in musical theater,
I think it's you know, you can take it with
a little tongue in cheeks sometimes, and that's great. That's
what it should be. It's a huge spectacle and I've
(15:12):
always wanted Colin to kind of move into that arena,
and so I was really excited that when I found
out that he was going to be doing song and
dance and I would actually get to sing and stuff
like that. That was exciting. I going back to the improvisation,
(15:40):
I think you're one hundred percent right. I think the
fact that playing Colin as a baby was so confining
is a good thing, because children baby Colin, I don't
think a doesn't need to drain people to survive, and
(16:03):
so I don't think he has the knowledge yet of
all these ridiculously boring tangents or an improv that I,
as an adult would put into the character wouldn't fit
for the child. And that was something I had to
keep in mind throughout filming, was this isn't Mark Trucks
(16:28):
playing this character and me throwing in something that I
find funny. It's Mark Pruchs playing this character that's top
a tween and that Twain doesn't.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Have, you know, the.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
The years on him to be able to draw on
certain topics or jokes and put them in so that confinement. Actually,
I think you're right, worked.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Think so, I think it. It's very sweet.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
People are a lot of fans are have made throughout
the season really beautiful fan art of what they've quoted.
It's baby Colin and and theo memo or uncle memo
because kind of takes on the more maternal role in
(17:22):
the relationship with co parenting with Laslow and and lets
you be who you want to be and encourages you,
and and and and our our team uh marketing team
and and and and social team has done a great
job of if you go to actual Colin Robinson's or
baby Collins YouTube page, you can't actually look at the
videos and like them, and you'll see that a lot
(17:44):
of the comments are actuallymost comments giving baby calling like
lagels are fun. Good, good job, buddy, Like they did
such a great job of like really kind of continuing
the storyline of like that you always have that one
parent who's dually encouraging and the parent who's not as
with that because remember last was not big on the
arts of well not musical theater.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
It's for halfwits, that's what he calls it.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
But but the idea of these two men are raising
you as a child and what will come of it
is what we see at the final conclusion of the
episode of season of four. It's just it's kind of great,
you know, like the story that we just told through
a comedy, which is so great.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
It's just like, how do you raise a child?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
You know?
Speaker 7 (18:29):
What does it take? A village?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Who's part of a Uh do you have any fond
memories when you were a child that you that you
just think are like, wow, that was just a special
moment that kind of helped me or guide me or
will live with me just because it just it was
so good in itself and what it was.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yeah, you know, I it's hard to point to just
one specific one, but my my grandma, one of my
grandma's was very into the arts, and you know, she
did community theater and community musical theater. And when I
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was very young, six or seven, she started bringing me
in to the cast and so I would play like
kid number thirty seven in Sound of Music or The
Music Man.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Or what have you.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
And that experience was really, I think invaluable for me
because at that early of an age, it taught me
not to be scared in front of audiences, because at
that age you don't really know to be scared in
front of large groups of people. And she was always
(19:52):
very very funny. Like for the Sound of Music, she
played Mother Superior, and she went to a a photographer
and then had headshot well not headshots, but like you know,
photos that you give to relatives, and so for Christmas
she gave out all these photos of her in a
(20:12):
nun's costume. And you know, she was just that type
of person. And you know, I have great parents. I
was very lucky, very lucky to have supportive parents that
you know, we're hardworking, very hard working and good models
(20:42):
and taught me very young that life isn't fair. And
I think a lot of kids don't get taught that
lesson anymore. Now I sound like an old old grandpa,
but yeah, and I think you know they were also
you know, they were very loving, but also there was
(21:07):
discipline if you screwed up. And I think as a kid,
you think your parents hate you, or you hate your
parents or what have you because of that. But then
as you get older, you realize that it's a really
delicate balance and hopefully your parents or parents or guardian
(21:29):
was able to thread that needle.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
We have way more on me after life.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
What is something you might be able to share that
what's one time that you screwed up?
Speaker 7 (21:47):
They needed to be like disciplined, Like it's like, did
you steal the car?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Gosh, no one I remember? Was I cut my own hair?
And this is I think, I was what did you do?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Yeah, yeah, had I only know? It was so traumatizing.
I went back. Now, I must have been four or five.
I was very young, and I cut my hair and
you should.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Not be using scissors at four or five, right, that's
the through number one.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Well that, but also you should be cutting your own
hair five and boy, I got in trouble for that.
I got spanking for that for sure. And then there
was another time where I had I always I would
always get ear infections as a kid. I never had
the tubes put in, but I always got ear infections.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And the.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
The liquid penictillin it's like the paint, if I remember correctly,
I had to take that, and I remember again, I
was like five or six. I remember thinking it kind
of looked like blood, and so my mom would give
it to me and I would keep it in my mouth,
(23:08):
and then I would just go out in the garage,
not even out in the yard like an intelligent kid would,
and I'd act like I'm dying, and I would like
have it, and here it's medicine I'm supposed to be taking.
And then my mom one day came out and she
just saw the pink on the ground and put two
and two together. My mom was always good at like
(23:28):
figuring out, okay, what did this idiot just do and
then tying the pieces together and why. She was always
very good, very good about that.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
The penicillin you're supposed to be taking for your ear
infection to make you feel better. You're not taking and
using it as prop blood out of your mouth.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Yeah. And we weren't wealthy and we didn't grow up
that's money. I mean we were lower middle class and
so like that's money.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
You know, that's a lot, that's.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Doctors visit and that's you know, prescription.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Oh my gosh, I mean those are good ones. I
mean and you grew up in the Midwest, you said,
was it yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
And uh, which never did?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I mean I just imagine like in the middle of
winter with that medicine, just like freeze over and the
floor of a garage and just leave a pink residue
on the on the cement floor.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Oh, you can be sure. I had to clean you
can be sure.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
So Mark, this year we got to go to Comic
Con and we filled up Hall h which is crazy
to think of because that was a massive, massive, massive
audience and we were full. We have people who told
us afterwards that they try to go in and there
are capacity and security guards won't let them in, that
they were that packed and that's three people.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Uh, what was that experience?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Like?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
What was Comic Con like for you this year? And
what was it like to see your character? Uh, for cosplay?
We saw so many Colin Robinson walking around and what
was that like? Did you did you think that would
ever happen your characters be cosplayed at a comic con?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
No?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
No, I mean it's it's as as you know, when
you're filming a show, especially this one, which we film
in Toronto and the dead of winter. The last couple
of years, we haven't been able to really go anywhere
because of COVID during production, and so it becomes very insular,
(25:35):
and you forget that you even have fans that are
waiting on this product or are excited to see this product,
because you are just so focused on going to work,
going to work and coming home and eating and sleeping
(25:56):
so you're prepared for the next day. And then to
go to comic Con, which is.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Just such a.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Rewarding experience because you see the fruits of that labor
and you meet people who are so incredibly invested in
the show and are so Our fans are really really
kind and very creative people, and you see that in
(26:25):
the artwork that they send us, you see that in
the costumes that they create themselves. So to be on
a show that takes on a life of its own
amongst the fans is really incredible and very rare in
(26:47):
this day and age where there's five thousand shows and
five million actors on those shows.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Yeah, it was, You're right, it was.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
You know, we started the show and we premiered season
two right before this whole thing with pandemic happening, and
we kind of went away and just did the work
and did a couple of seasons, but we really hadn't
been out and about and kind of seeing how much
the show had been well received.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
And so I knew we're going to comic Con.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I knew we had fans because they've been so lovely
to share their their art online and tag us and whatnot,
but I had no idea that it was that kind
of you know, massive well received, and it was just
like it blew my mind, Like I was just like, wow,
this is this is really insane and really awesome. And
we thank all those fans who who dressed up, who
(27:38):
come and support us, who came from around the world,
some people, you know, traveled around the world to go
to Sanuo Comic Con to maybe get a glimpse of us.
And we went out and said hi to everyone, and
it just blew my mind, like it was just so
many wonderful people who love this show, and and now
people know how how how many of us it takes
to make the show happen. It's just not the actors, obviously,
(27:58):
but we have an amazing team of writers and producers
and costume designers and all the whole team that just, uh,
that gets this thing.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
And it's great to see them getting acknowledged now. In
a word, Yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Got nominations for costume, for stunt, we got ti, we
got two nars for writing. We got the nomination for comedy,
which is great. And then it's just yeah, it's just
it's it's always just a cherry on top of everything.
You think you got the sprinkle done and the cherry
and the whip cream, it's always like, oh, there's something
else that's just added that makes it even sweeter and richer.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
I guess you could say.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
You've had such a great career just the office and
better calls out and this show. Are you really particular
about the roles that you you want to play going forward?
Are you like, as long as it's funny, what's your role?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Thumb?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Usually when you play a role for better for worse.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I've always been very particular. I feel like you owe
that to your fan base. I I've as a huge
fan of television and movies and certain actors. I've I've
(29:17):
felt personally let down when an actor who I loved
and thought was very considerate with their choices chooses some awful,
stupid movie or some awful silly TV show. I think
(29:40):
that it's not rational of me to feel that way.
I understand that, but we do have some control. And
it's hard when you're starting out because you need money,
and it's it's incredibly hard to be choosy and picky.
(30:05):
Looking back, there may be one or two things I
wouldn't have done, but I'm not embarrassed by those. There's
still decent things, decent products.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
You have to pay the bills, mark.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
You have to pay the bills. But yeah, I think
I think you owe that to your fan base, and
I think it helps your career in the long run.
Being a bit choosy m hm. You don't want to overstay.
You're welcome, you know, while wear out, you're welcome, and
(30:41):
you don't want to be overexposed. And as character actors,
that can happen very quickly, I think, And yeah, I
I am a little picky. And again, like it's hard
sometimes early on, especially when you you know, i'd be
(31:05):
on the Office and you have friends who think, oh,
you're on TV, now you're rich. Well no, you go on,
I was reoccurring on the Office, and so I might
get one paycheck for that for a month, for two
months of one episode and that was that one episode
(31:27):
paid me like what I made for two weeks at
my temping job. And so it's not like all of
a sudden you have just sacks of money handed to you,
and so you scrounge and you work really hard, and
so to be choosy during those times it is especially hard.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Yeah, I mean you do put a lot of work,
you do. You put a lot of work into the
character development of the characters that you do. So yeah,
it is it does pay off to be you know,
selective and all of that, and it is part of
what you want to present in your brand, you know,
what you want to be proud.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Of obviously way of life.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Uh you know for this character, what kind of preparation
for Colin, which is the first of its kind and
I never seen on television really is an energy vampire.
What kind of preparation did you go into to fall
into Collin's mindset.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I like playing the weirdos.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
I like playing the.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
A bit eccentric, slabby, kind of annoying characters because that's
who I enjoy in real life. That's who I like
on the you know, on the shuttle at the airport,
will strike up a conversation with or and standing in
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line at the DMV or what have you. I I
love to talk to them and and just they're far
more interesting and far more a fun to hear out
then say, just another person that looks like me and
talks like me. And so with Colin, it was a
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lot of I'll record people sometimes when I'm when I'm
talking with them or if they're going on a rant
with some other person, I'll just flip on my voice
memo and then listen back to that a little bit,
not to be intrusive, but just to really figure out
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what their mindset is, and then try to get into
that mindset a little bit when I'm doing a character.
But that's about it. For preparation. I try to really
hear what the writers want, and on our show we
were given the privilege of flexibility with our characters to
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a certain degree. They weren't set in stone necessarily. Jermaine,
especially early on, made us aware of that and wanted
a great deal of improvisation. And I think your character
develops over that time. It's always fun to watch the
first season of a show and then on the seventh
(34:38):
season go back and rewatch that first season because you
see that character develop a great deal and that I
feel like has happened with all of us. We've gotten
very comfortable playing these characters. We know them backwards and forwards.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
The minimal preparation I did ahead of time, a lot
of that probably went to the side as I figured
out the character and as the writers developed the character.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I mean, it's been a great season, and it's been
a great I mean, Colin's always been one of my favorites,
and now this really kind of takes the cherry on top,
which is like with Baby Colin has been such a
great season, such a great journey. We had Naseas also
the club, and we were asking all our guests if
you had a drink for Colin at Naseas, what would
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the drink be called and what.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Would it be made out of Oh my gosh, that
is a hard one.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
And it could be obviously a human drink, so for
human consumption, But like what would it be name and
what would the ingredients.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Be for it? I think it would be called Colin's
Drained Pain because he would want to play on the
main vein euphemism to be annoying and gross, and it
would probably be a lot of apaol and a lot
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of Maraschino cherry jews, and a lot a lot of
decoration on top. Uh, so much so that it's incredibly annoying.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Does it poke you?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Like?
Speaker 7 (36:36):
There's no straw, You have to actually put the cup
to your mouth.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Oh yeah, you have to drink. You have to put
up to you all the Yeah, And there's like, you know,
kindapple rind. There's just and stuff that you don't want
in it.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
And it's a giant piece of like you know, like
tricky bacon wrapped around aspara. Guess this is yeah, stuff
that you don't want and it's just cooking your eye.
You didn't even get to the drink. You can't even
get to the actual fabric.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Yeah no you don't. You order it and then the
bar is filled with these at the end of the
night because no one touched them after They.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Just at the edge at the end of the bar.
They just collect at the corner. People just leave them.
Oh my gosh, Well, Mark, thanks so much for joining us.
This has been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
I love this season. This has been one of my favorites,
the story.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
And you're killing it this season.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Literally, I'm just killing that's that is my favorite fight
scene so far. And and uh one of my favorites.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
And here's to another two seasons, season five and season
six coming your way.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Everyone, We're excited.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Is there anything you want to tell the fans Mark,
who've been a supporter of the show from the beginning
and continue to love and can totally ship calling manners.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Yeah, I just a deep hearted thank you and a
failing of gratitude. We know this doesn't happen often that
fans get this involved and this excited about a show,
and hopefully we can keep making you laughter in these
very very ridiculous times.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
Well you heard it here, folks. Thanks so much for watching,
and we'll see you next season.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
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Vocals by Maggie Glass. If you don't already, subscribe wherever
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Speaker 3 (38:55):
Reading this so bewhelming, Hardyzar has to tell me why
would anyone want to be alive that might have a
reputation before she arrives.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
But trust me, we have way more Fani afterlife. We
have way more Fani afterlife.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
See you next week.
Straw Hot Media.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to another episode of Behind the Shadows. I'm your host,
Hartigienn aka Giam de la Cruz. Today's guest is baby
Colin Robinson himself tapping into our hearts. It's Mark Proks.
Discover how Mark chooses his iconic roles in Shadows the
office and better Call sal and why does Mark choose
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not to do any preparation for his scenes? And what
we do in the Shadows find out a very special
episode of Behind the Shadows.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Breathing this so bewhelming, i'd bezar has so tell me
why would anyone want to be alive? Death might have
a reputation before she arrives, but trust.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Me, we have way more on the aff line. We
have way more n the after life.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Okay, guys, we're back for another episode of Behind the Shadows.
I am super excited for our big finale guests, the one,
the Only, my friend Mark Porch.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Yeah, that actually got me.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
First of all, this has been such a cool year
for Colin the trajectory of the story. But before we
get to that, I want to talk about how you
got started in acting. Can you tell us a little
bit about how you got started in the acting world.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah, I did a well, I guess now it would
be called a viral video, a series of viral videos
that I had never intended to be viral. What I
did was I booked myself on these morning shows. And
(02:03):
I would go on these morning shows and they had
no idea that I was playing a character and I
was doing this to make my friends laugh. And so
I booked myself as this yo yo champion coming to
area schools to teach kids about the environment for the
use of my yo yo and which makes no sense,
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but it had all these things that morning shows love.
It had you know, local interest, It had a hot
button topic like environmentalism, and it had a demonstration. And
so my friend and I sent out twelve press releases
to morning shows throughout the Midwest, and by the end
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of the day we had ten bookings, and I did
I think about seven before these news stations start to
talking to each other and saying, did you have this
weird idiot come and do this interview with you? And
people started uploading these videos onto YouTube and dead Spin,
(03:18):
which was a big sports site, picked it up, and
the writers on various TV shows were watching these and
the writers from the office would watch them during their
lunch and my now wife, who was a writer on
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the office, had just started working like two weeks ago,
and so she was bound and determined to figure out
who I was. And she did figure out who I was.
The writers Paul Lieberstein, who played it played Toby on
the Office, called me. He was running the show at
the time, and they flew me out to meet with
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all the writers, and a month later I was on
the show.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
That's incredible, insane And we'll we'll insert video here because
I'm sure we can.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
Here you go.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Welcome back to Good Morning, four States. It is finally
Friday morning. Case Stross is back with this again from zipzapp.
We thank you for joining us this morning. You've got
your hands full of yoyo's right now. You got to
what for yoyos per hand?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Right right?
Speaker 8 (04:25):
And what I do is, uh, it's called the Blue
Flying Angel, Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And it's like, do I need to get out of
the way for this?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You do?
Speaker 7 (04:36):
You know what we do or I'll do is the kids.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
I'll get into the room and the kids will be
running around.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
I'll be all excited.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
And so I tried to start things off on their
level and try to hook them with something like a wrap.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
So it's and it's kind of clever because it includes
me okay, and it goes, hey, they're up in the sky.
It's the case stress the yo.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
And then I do that.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
Do do do doo yo yo yo, you know, and
I get them going and I get them into it.
And so when once I do that, they are ready
to learn.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
And there it is. That's what it was.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I can't well why I've seen your videos Mark, and
I thought you were a real yo yo instructor until
until you see this guy you know, repeatedly not do
a good job at it, and you keep such a
straight face, which is what I think is so great
about your comic uh timing and ability, is that like
(05:37):
I can't tell when you're being serious or you're doing
a bit because you keep grounded and you always keep
grounded and never show either way that you're like doing
a bit or not. And so sometimes I feel like
you fuck with my mind sometimes because you know that
you're purposely like talking to me about something, and you
go into like a calling mannerism and then I'm like
(05:59):
stop are you you?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
And You're like what what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
And it's just like you're so good at keeping it grounded,
which is hard for comedians to do, and you do
it so so well. And uh and and and my
question I guess is were you just always like that natural,
like funny growing up? Were you like the funny the
funny guy at school?
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Well, that's very kind of you to say. And I've
said it often that you're my favorite straight man I've
ever worked because you you just I can bounce anything
off of you and you know how to react and
so I love that about you.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Well, that's very nice. It's true though.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I think we have a Yeah, we've had some really
great moments this season, very tender moments of like co
parenting with Laslow and raising you.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It's just one of my favorite moments is playing baseball
with you this season and and you being a teenager
but like not getting his shit and you're just like
some of some of your delivery. Sometimes it's just like
I can't. It's hard to make me break on set
like I can't. I'm usually pretty good and it's you.
This season, there's a couple of takes that like I
(07:13):
just had to like cover my face to the side
because it's like your face in character as as a
teenage Colin Robinson delivering this dry like what was the
line in the base line is like baseball is fucking
stupid or something is something ridiculous where you just added
it and it just like made me break And it's
hard to do because it's, like you said, playing a
straight guy on a straight man on the show is
(07:36):
uh is you know, it's pretty hard just because you
guys are so funny. But you really kind of took
it to the next level this season. And but going
back to the question, were you always the funny guy
at school you've known as that?
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I mean, I wasn't like the class clown. I I
I always enjoyed comedy a lot, and that was clearly
where my talents, if any lied, I. I, you know,
(08:10):
I have funny brothers. I have three older brothers and
they're very funny. My mom and dad are very funny.
My grandparents were very funny. So it was, you know,
comedy was a big part of my upbringing and family
gatherings and stuff like that. We would always be laughing,
(08:31):
and I, you know, I would make short stupid videos
with my friends in middle school and high school and stuff,
and I knew that's what I really would want to
do if I ever could. But my family had no
idea of anything having to do with Hollywood. I mean,
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we didn't have an adjacent uncle or anyone that had
any knowledge. There was no pathway really for me. I
would have to have had the confidence and the ego
to just say I'm going to Hollywood, and I never
had that. I mean growing up in the Midwest, you know,
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ego is the eleventh commandment that you're not supposed to have,
and so I just fell into that backwards. But I
didn't you know, I didn't really take much theater or
anything like that. I didn't go to I don't have
formal training and it you know, sometimes I think that
(09:36):
shows unfortunately, but but the comedy, I'm pretty confident I
can do.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Yeah, well you did very very very well.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
We have way off on me after life.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
And the idea that this season.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
I mean, when you got the news of Colin Robinson obviously,
you know, dying last season of the end of season three,
when you were told that he was going to be reborn,
what did you think, What was what was going through
your head? Like how's that going to happen or what
were you thinking?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yeah, I mean I was scared at first, because you
don't want to ruin You don't want your character to
be the reason people stop liking the show. And when
you say, oh, we're going to turn one of the
main cast members into a baby, you know that that's
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kind of hard to swallow at first. The same and
grace was that our show is a cartoon basically, and
anything can happen because we're dealing with you know, vampires
and goblins and anything. So there was some leeway story
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to suspend one's disbelief a little bit with regard to that.
The other thing that I knew couldn't fail was the writing.
As we've talked about many times, I think we have
the best comedy writers in the in the game right
now working on our show. And so I figured it
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was up to me to ruin this, and I just
you know, I worked at it. I as you know,
like we come to set and we unless it's a
serious scene, I personally don't prepare much. And I do
(11:38):
that for a reason. And that's so when I get
on set, I because it's a mockumentary. If this was
better call Saul. I rehearsed the ship out of that
backwards and forwards, but with this, I want there to
be the ums and ohs and injected as I'm trying
(11:58):
to think of the next line or think of how
I'm going to do the next bit, because I feel
like as a documentary, you want to look real and unrehearsed,
and the same with our improv, and I know you
do the same. We don't come to set already having
improv worked out in our minds, because then it would
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just seem faith.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And so I.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Was concerned with doing the baby part because there wasn't
going to be that level of improv that we're so
comfortable doing because ninety percent of what I did was
on a green screen and you guys already had your
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lines filmed, and so I'm reacting to something that's already
set in stone. So that was a bit of a
challenge too. Yeah, hopefully hopefully it worked.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, Well, I was going to say that was probably
the most thing that we that we missed is that,
you know, being on set with each other, we can
actually have an improblem the moment, and because Baby Colin
is played by you know, we have young actors who
played the tangible body and head of you. Yeah, and
then we put dots on their faces and so then
(13:24):
you're putting too green screen to this, and so we
really can't improvise as much as we could when it's
already set in stone, like you said, and then you're like, oh, man,
that would have been a fun bit to do with
baby Colin back and forth, but we didn't get that
because of technology and because of the actual way that
the shooting schedule would go. But I think it came
out perfect because in a way, baby Colin's growing, developing,
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and all the adults around him are trying to figure
out how to raise this child and which you know,
what is taking places at nurture versus nature or you know,
or vice versa. And so it's the adults dealing with
this child and Colin living in their own sweet world
is kind of its own thing that you kind of created,
where he cares about musicals and legos and kind of
(14:08):
that's a child, Like a child is always just involved
in like the world they've created for themselves. They really
don't know about what's going on around them. They're aware
and they're smart and they can listen, but they create
their own world, you know, And and I think that
kind of worked in our favor. With the baby Colin especially,
I love that he loves musicals.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Yeah, and that's you know, that's a storyline I've wanted
to have for Colin is theater on some level, and
musical theater, which I personally love and I think we
all love on the show, and Paul Simms has confessed
(14:49):
his love for musical theater. But it's such a fun
target at the same time, even when you're in musical theater,
I think it's you know, you can take it with
a little tongue in cheeks sometimes, and that's great. That's
what it should be. It's a huge spectacle and I've
(15:12):
always wanted Colin to kind of move into that arena,
and so I was really excited that when I found
out that he was going to be doing song and
dance and I would actually get to sing and stuff
like that. That was exciting. I going back to the improvisation,
(15:40):
I think you're one hundred percent right. I think the
fact that playing Colin as a baby was so confining
is a good thing, because children baby Colin, I don't
think a doesn't need to drain people to survive, and
(16:03):
so I don't think he has the knowledge yet of
all these ridiculously boring tangents or an improv that I,
as an adult would put into the character wouldn't fit
for the child. And that was something I had to
keep in mind throughout filming, was this isn't Mark Trucks
(16:28):
playing this character and me throwing in something that I
find funny. It's Mark Pruchs playing this character that's top
a tween and that Twain doesn't.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Have, you know, the.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
The years on him to be able to draw on
certain topics or jokes and put them in so that confinement. Actually,
I think you're right, worked.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Think so, I think it. It's very sweet.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
People are a lot of fans are have made throughout
the season really beautiful fan art of what they've quoted.
It's baby Colin and and theo memo or uncle memo
because kind of takes on the more maternal role in
(17:22):
the relationship with co parenting with Laslow and and lets
you be who you want to be and encourages you,
and and and and our our team uh marketing team
and and and and social team has done a great
job of if you go to actual Colin Robinson's or
baby Collins YouTube page, you can't actually look at the
videos and like them, and you'll see that a lot
(17:44):
of the comments are actuallymost comments giving baby calling like
lagels are fun. Good, good job, buddy, Like they did
such a great job of like really kind of continuing
the storyline of like that you always have that one
parent who's dually encouraging and the parent who's not as
with that because remember last was not big on the
arts of well not musical theater.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
It's for halfwits, that's what he calls it.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
But but the idea of these two men are raising
you as a child and what will come of it
is what we see at the final conclusion of the
episode of season of four. It's just it's kind of great,
you know, like the story that we just told through
a comedy, which is so great.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
It's just like, how do you raise a child?
Speaker 6 (18:28):
You know?
Speaker 7 (18:29):
What does it take? A village?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Who's part of a Uh do you have any fond
memories when you were a child that you that you
just think are like, wow, that was just a special
moment that kind of helped me or guide me or
will live with me just because it just it was
so good in itself and what it was.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yeah, you know, I it's hard to point to just
one specific one, but my my grandma, one of my
grandma's was very into the arts, and you know, she
did community theater and community musical theater. And when I
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was very young, six or seven, she started bringing me
in to the cast and so I would play like
kid number thirty seven in Sound of Music or The
Music Man.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Or what have you.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
And that experience was really, I think invaluable for me
because at that early of an age, it taught me
not to be scared in front of audiences, because at
that age you don't really know to be scared in
front of large groups of people. And she was always
(19:52):
very very funny. Like for the Sound of Music, she
played Mother Superior, and she went to a a photographer
and then had headshot well not headshots, but like you know,
photos that you give to relatives, and so for Christmas
she gave out all these photos of her in a
(20:12):
nun's costume. And you know, she was just that type
of person. And you know, I have great parents. I
was very lucky, very lucky to have supportive parents that
you know, we're hardworking, very hard working and good models
(20:42):
and taught me very young that life isn't fair. And
I think a lot of kids don't get taught that
lesson anymore. Now I sound like an old old grandpa,
but yeah, and I think you know they were also
you know, they were very loving, but also there was
(21:07):
discipline if you screwed up. And I think as a kid,
you think your parents hate you, or you hate your
parents or what have you because of that. But then
as you get older, you realize that it's a really
delicate balance and hopefully your parents or parents or guardian
(21:29):
was able to thread that needle.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
We have way more on me after life.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
What is something you might be able to share that
what's one time that you screwed up?
Speaker 7 (21:47):
They needed to be like disciplined, Like it's like, did
you steal the car?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Gosh, no one I remember? Was I cut my own hair?
And this is I think, I was what did you do?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Yeah, yeah, had I only know? It was so traumatizing.
I went back. Now, I must have been four or five.
I was very young, and I cut my hair and
you should.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Not be using scissors at four or five, right, that's
the through number one.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Well that, but also you should be cutting your own
hair five and boy, I got in trouble for that.
I got spanking for that for sure. And then there
was another time where I had I always I would
always get ear infections as a kid. I never had
the tubes put in, but I always got ear infections.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And the.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
The liquid penictillin it's like the paint, if I remember correctly,
I had to take that, and I remember again, I
was like five or six. I remember thinking it kind
of looked like blood, and so my mom would give
it to me and I would keep it in my mouth,
(23:08):
and then I would just go out in the garage,
not even out in the yard like an intelligent kid would,
and I'd act like I'm dying, and I would like
have it, and here it's medicine I'm supposed to be taking.
And then my mom one day came out and she
just saw the pink on the ground and put two
and two together. My mom was always good at like
(23:28):
figuring out, okay, what did this idiot just do and
then tying the pieces together and why. She was always
very good, very good about that.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
The penicillin you're supposed to be taking for your ear
infection to make you feel better. You're not taking and
using it as prop blood out of your mouth.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Yeah. And we weren't wealthy and we didn't grow up
that's money. I mean we were lower middle class and
so like that's money.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
You know, that's a lot, that's.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Doctors visit and that's you know, prescription.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Oh my gosh, I mean those are good ones. I
mean and you grew up in the Midwest, you said,
was it yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
And uh, which never did?
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I mean I just imagine like in the middle of
winter with that medicine, just like freeze over and the
floor of a garage and just leave a pink residue
on the on the cement floor.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Oh, you can be sure. I had to clean you
can be sure.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
So Mark, this year we got to go to Comic
Con and we filled up Hall h which is crazy
to think of because that was a massive, massive, massive
audience and we were full. We have people who told
us afterwards that they try to go in and there
are capacity and security guards won't let them in, that
they were that packed and that's three people.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Uh, what was that experience?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Like?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
What was Comic Con like for you this year? And
what was it like to see your character? Uh, for cosplay?
We saw so many Colin Robinson walking around and what
was that like? Did you did you think that would
ever happen your characters be cosplayed at a comic con?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
No?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
No, I mean it's it's as as you know, when
you're filming a show, especially this one, which we film
in Toronto and the dead of winter. The last couple
of years, we haven't been able to really go anywhere
because of COVID during production, and so it becomes very insular,
(25:35):
and you forget that you even have fans that are
waiting on this product or are excited to see this product,
because you are just so focused on going to work,
going to work and coming home and eating and sleeping
(25:56):
so you're prepared for the next day. And then to
go to comic Con, which is.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Just such a.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Rewarding experience because you see the fruits of that labor
and you meet people who are so incredibly invested in
the show and are so Our fans are really really
kind and very creative people, and you see that in
(26:25):
the artwork that they send us, you see that in
the costumes that they create themselves. So to be on
a show that takes on a life of its own
amongst the fans is really incredible and very rare in
(26:47):
this day and age where there's five thousand shows and
five million actors on those shows.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
Yeah, it was, You're right, it was.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
You know, we started the show and we premiered season
two right before this whole thing with pandemic happening, and
we kind of went away and just did the work
and did a couple of seasons, but we really hadn't
been out and about and kind of seeing how much
the show had been well received.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
And so I knew we're going to comic Con.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I knew we had fans because they've been so lovely
to share their their art online and tag us and whatnot,
but I had no idea that it was that kind
of you know, massive well received, and it was just
like it blew my mind, Like I was just like, wow,
this is this is really insane and really awesome. And
we thank all those fans who who dressed up, who
(27:38):
come and support us, who came from around the world,
some people, you know, traveled around the world to go
to Sanuo Comic Con to maybe get a glimpse of us.
And we went out and said hi to everyone, and
it just blew my mind, like it was just so
many wonderful people who love this show, and and now
people know how how how many of us it takes
to make the show happen. It's just not the actors, obviously,
(27:58):
but we have an amazing team of writers and producers
and costume designers and all the whole team that just, uh,
that gets this thing.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
And it's great to see them getting acknowledged now. In
a word, Yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Got nominations for costume, for stunt, we got ti, we
got two nars for writing. We got the nomination for comedy,
which is great. And then it's just yeah, it's just
it's it's always just a cherry on top of everything.
You think you got the sprinkle done and the cherry
and the whip cream, it's always like, oh, there's something
else that's just added that makes it even sweeter and richer.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
I guess you could say.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
You've had such a great career just the office and
better calls out and this show. Are you really particular
about the roles that you you want to play going forward?
Are you like, as long as it's funny, what's your role?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Thumb?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Usually when you play a role for better for worse.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I've always been very particular. I feel like you owe
that to your fan base. I I've as a huge
fan of television and movies and certain actors. I've I've
(29:17):
felt personally let down when an actor who I loved
and thought was very considerate with their choices chooses some awful,
stupid movie or some awful silly TV show. I think
(29:40):
that it's not rational of me to feel that way.
I understand that, but we do have some control. And
it's hard when you're starting out because you need money,
and it's it's incredibly hard to be choosy and picky.
(30:05):
Looking back, there may be one or two things I
wouldn't have done, but I'm not embarrassed by those. There's
still decent things, decent products.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
You have to pay the bills, mark.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
You have to pay the bills. But yeah, I think
I think you owe that to your fan base, and
I think it helps your career in the long run.
Being a bit choosy m hm. You don't want to overstay.
You're welcome, you know, while wear out, you're welcome, and
(30:41):
you don't want to be overexposed. And as character actors,
that can happen very quickly, I think, And yeah, I
I am a little picky. And again, like it's hard
sometimes early on, especially when you you know, i'd be
(31:05):
on the Office and you have friends who think, oh,
you're on TV, now you're rich. Well no, you go on,
I was reoccurring on the Office, and so I might
get one paycheck for that for a month, for two
months of one episode and that was that one episode
(31:27):
paid me like what I made for two weeks at
my temping job. And so it's not like all of
a sudden you have just sacks of money handed to you,
and so you scrounge and you work really hard, and
so to be choosy during those times it is especially hard.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Yeah, I mean you do put a lot of work,
you do. You put a lot of work into the
character development of the characters that you do. So yeah,
it is it does pay off to be you know,
selective and all of that, and it is part of
what you want to present in your brand, you know,
what you want to be proud.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Of obviously way of life.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Uh you know for this character, what kind of preparation
for Colin, which is the first of its kind and
I never seen on television really is an energy vampire.
What kind of preparation did you go into to fall
into Collin's mindset.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I like playing the weirdos.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
I like playing the.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
A bit eccentric, slabby, kind of annoying characters because that's
who I enjoy in real life. That's who I like
on the you know, on the shuttle at the airport,
will strike up a conversation with or and standing in
(33:04):
line at the DMV or what have you. I I
love to talk to them and and just they're far
more interesting and far more a fun to hear out
then say, just another person that looks like me and
talks like me. And so with Colin, it was a
(33:30):
lot of I'll record people sometimes when I'm when I'm
talking with them or if they're going on a rant
with some other person, I'll just flip on my voice
memo and then listen back to that a little bit,
not to be intrusive, but just to really figure out
(33:53):
what their mindset is, and then try to get into
that mindset a little bit when I'm doing a character.
But that's about it. For preparation. I try to really
hear what the writers want, and on our show we
were given the privilege of flexibility with our characters to
(34:15):
a certain degree. They weren't set in stone necessarily. Jermaine,
especially early on, made us aware of that and wanted
a great deal of improvisation. And I think your character
develops over that time. It's always fun to watch the
first season of a show and then on the seventh
(34:38):
season go back and rewatch that first season because you
see that character develop a great deal and that I
feel like has happened with all of us. We've gotten
very comfortable playing these characters. We know them backwards and forwards.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
The minimal preparation I did ahead of time, a lot
of that probably went to the side as I figured
out the character and as the writers developed the character.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I mean, it's been a great season, and it's been
a great I mean, Colin's always been one of my favorites,
and now this really kind of takes the cherry on top,
which is like with Baby Colin has been such a
great season, such a great journey. We had Naseas also
the club, and we were asking all our guests if
you had a drink for Colin at Naseas, what would
(35:34):
the drink be called and what.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Would it be made out of Oh my gosh, that
is a hard one.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
And it could be obviously a human drink, so for
human consumption, But like what would it be name and
what would the ingredients.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Be for it? I think it would be called Colin's
Drained Pain because he would want to play on the
main vein euphemism to be annoying and gross, and it
would probably be a lot of apaol and a lot
(36:17):
of Maraschino cherry jews, and a lot a lot of
decoration on top. Uh, so much so that it's incredibly annoying.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Does it poke you?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Like?
Speaker 7 (36:36):
There's no straw, You have to actually put the cup
to your mouth.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Oh yeah, you have to drink. You have to put
up to you all the Yeah, And there's like, you know,
kindapple rind. There's just and stuff that you don't want
in it.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
And it's a giant piece of like you know, like
tricky bacon wrapped around aspara. Guess this is yeah, stuff
that you don't want and it's just cooking your eye.
You didn't even get to the drink. You can't even
get to the actual fabric.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Yeah no you don't. You order it and then the
bar is filled with these at the end of the
night because no one touched them after They.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Just at the edge at the end of the bar.
They just collect at the corner. People just leave them.
Oh my gosh, Well, Mark, thanks so much for joining us.
This has been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
I love this season. This has been one of my favorites,
the story.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
And you're killing it this season.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Literally, I'm just killing that's that is my favorite fight
scene so far. And and uh one of my favorites.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
And here's to another two seasons, season five and season
six coming your way.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Everyone, We're excited.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Is there anything you want to tell the fans Mark,
who've been a supporter of the show from the beginning
and continue to love and can totally ship calling manners.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Yeah, I just a deep hearted thank you and a
failing of gratitude. We know this doesn't happen often that
fans get this involved and this excited about a show,
and hopefully we can keep making you laughter in these
very very ridiculous times.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
Well you heard it here, folks. Thanks so much for watching,
and we'll see you next season.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
Behind the Shadows is a production of straw Hut Media
hosted by Harvey Gehan. Produced by Ryan Tillotson, Amada Sanchez,
and Tyler Nielsen. Original music by Trevor Bumgar and Chris Hendricks.
Vocals by Maggie Glass. If you don't already, subscribe wherever
you're listening, and make sure to follow Behind the Shadows
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tune in live every Thursday at one pm Pacific on
(38:50):
the What We Do in the Shadow subreddit for an
AMA with Harvey and special guests.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Reading this so bewhelming, Hardyzar has to tell me why
would anyone want to be alive that might have a
reputation before she arrives.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
But trust me, we have way more Fani afterlife. We
have way more Fani afterlife.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
See you next week.
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