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February 18, 2025 38 mins

Season 2 Episode 5: Smite

This episode of Sons of Anarchy is called “Smite” and it follows Clay vs. Zobelle and illustrates just how in over his head Clay is in the chess match. Zobelle has Otto jumped in prison (he loses an eye), he turns in evidence on the club blowing up Darby's meth lab in Charming, he blackmails Hale, sets up a street fight, and also blows up a van at TM, leaving us wondering if Chibs is still alive. All the while Clay stole some cigars... Oh, and Gemma broke Tara's nose! And both ladies start reading JT's old book.

In this episode we'll shine a headlight on Hale for the way he's finally chosen a side in this fight. We'll also give out some patches, fire some bullets, and plenty of other fun and games along the way!

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(00:00):
Zobel has entered attack mode while Clay is being petty, and
Hale has finally chosen a side. Hi and welcome to Belated Binge,
the podcast that doesn't take itself or the show too
seriously. My name is Zach, I'm your host,
here to let you relive your favorite series that I nearly
missed out on like Sons of Anarchy, which I didn't watch

(00:23):
for the first time until like four years or so after the
series finale. Today we are on Season 2 episode
5 called Smite, the Belated Binge Podcast.
Before we dig into the episode, there will be spoilers, probably
some language. There will definitely be in all

(00:44):
situations. Use earbuds as necessary.
Shout out to the bonus Binge Squad on
patreonpatreon.com/belated Bingeif you forgot.
In our last episode, Gemma was the victim of a new intimidation
tactic by Zoe Bell, but couldn'tbring herself to kill Weston

(01:05):
while he was on the phone with his kid.
The club made their first gun run under the new agreement with
the IRA and nothing, nothing at all when according to plan
Jackson Clay nearly came to blows.
Tig was run off the road by Bobby and was nearly escorted to
Oregon by bounty hunters. Today we continue our binge,

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like I said, into Season 2, Episode 5 called Smite, which I
will start by trying to spin somehow into a love story in
this one quick peek behind the curtain.
I didn't write anything down, sowe're just winging it.

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If of course, you find yourself riding on a rim and you take
your your car to the local repair shop, the only thing that
you can hope for is a knight in shining armor to save the day,

(02:14):
actually, just to save your wheel, because you've actually
kind of got this thing figured out.
You're a single mom. You just need to get your kid to
school and you need a tire that actually works.
But luckily, the knight in shining armor who shows up is
wearing leather and a little beanie hat thing and has a beard

(02:34):
and you think he's cute. And who knows, who knows where
this love story might lead for Lila?
The answer is right into Opie's arms.
Yeah, that was terrible. I should write things down.
Next time, before we do anythingelse, I'm going to apologize for

(02:54):
what just happened. Now let's jump into the episode,
which opens with that little meet cute that I just butchered
the description of because it was the only thing lovey dovey
that I could think of about thisparticular episode.
For now, it's pretty much nothing, but it does plant
several seeds. First is the obvious attraction

(03:16):
between the two characters and her giving her giving Opie her
number is kind of an obvious sign that she's single and
interested. Lila being a single mom with a
son the same age as Opie's kid is like a connection that this
thing can blossom from, which issomething I should have used for

(03:37):
that ROM com intro thing that I did off the fly.
The paraphernalia though, that he spots in the floor of the
passenger seat that's going to come up later when he needs to
hook up with a drug dealer. From there, we basically have
three main plot points that we're going to follow throughout
the episode. The first one is the Clay versus

(04:00):
Zobel, and by extension, the club versus the Aryans.
Then we have the Gemma still dealing with her attack, and
then we have the Hail choosing aside.
Through those 3 storylines, we get a lot of overlaps and Easter
eggs and foreshadowing and allegiances and might I say even

(04:24):
a little bit of bonding. Let's start with the Gemma
storyline, kind of like last episode.
Her role is really heavy, but her scenes are fairly short and
while they're pivotal, there's not a whole lot of, there's not
a ton of screen time to really go through.

(04:46):
So I guess we start with the dayor the way that she starts her
day. Good places they need to start.
I think I'm just delaying because it's awkward because we
start off with an update on her vagina, which is apparently very

(05:07):
stiff, which is a description I've never once associated with
a vagina in my life. And it's also apparently very
dry, that one I've heard of. She then gets a little, I know,
you know, kind of chat with Jax about J TS old book.
Remember the book, the book thatwe learned about in season 1 and

(05:30):
was kind of a big deal and we sort of thought disappeared
there for a second. Well, it's back back in the
picture and it has a cool littleconnection because later in the
episode both Gemma and Tara, thewomen of Jax's life, are both
reading J TS book. The big thing for Gemma though

(05:51):
is that when Tara goes with her to the store to get some vagina
cream, she spots the blonde chick that lured her out of her
car the night that she was attacked and Gemma chases her,
doesn't catch up before the blondes ride shows up.

(06:11):
Almost as if that ride was planned.
Which of course it was. The blonde was actually planting
a broken down minivan in the parking lot and had Weston come
picking her up. And when Tara catches up to
Gemma she like reaches out and puts her hand on her shoulder
and Gemma throws just a wicked bow and breaks Tara's nose.

(06:38):
This event lands them both at the hospital with Tara getting
patched up. Or what?
She's already patched up, but itshe starts to open up to Gemma a
little bit about how she needs to talk to somebody, and she
tells her at least part of the Agent Cone story and then sends
her to the shrink under the threat of assault charges if she

(07:00):
doesn't go. She's doing this kind of tongue
in cheek, but it is, you know, for Gemma's own good.
She's like, look, you've got to talk to somebody before you kill
somebody. Like, you just broke my nose.
Gemma, however, does not follow through with the session.
What she does is read some of JT's book and then she goes to

(07:26):
visit Clay at the clubhouse and starts to actually show him some
physical affection again. And this honestly feels a little
bit out of place. It's just kind of feels like an
excuse to get her to the The BigBang at the end of the episode.
But we're we're not there yet. We'll get to that.

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But that's that's kind of the gist of Gemma's storyline.
Like I said, there's not a ton of screen time necessarily, but
there is a lot of weight that itcarries over on the overarching
story, which makes a lot of sense because season 2 is
Gemma's season. I mean, in a lot of ways, this

(08:08):
is Gemma's series, but I guess that's what happens when you're
married to the showrunner. Let's talk about this Hail
storyline. He's a popular guy in this
episode. He's got lots of visitors, and
it starts with Zobel and Weston,and they're there to provide
evidence that Sam Crow blew up aresidence in Charming.

(08:29):
They have a DVD with a video of Opie blowing up the meth lab
that Zobel had Darby set up. And when Hail kind of pushes
back on this, they give him a second DVD, which shows himself
receiving an envelope from Darbyon camera at the same house

(08:49):
earlier in the day. And we remember back to that
episode, it was initiated by Darby, and the envelope
contained a coupon for like, thegrand opening of Zobel's cigar
shop or whatever. But that doesn't matter.
This was all done intentionally for this moment right now.

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Zobel had always planned to blackmail Hale and making it
look on tape like he was accepting a bribe at a meth lab.
Zobel is playing chess. Hale's next visit comes from
Jax, who's there to confront himabout burying that meth lab

(09:30):
Intel, which never made sense for Hale's character, but he did
do that. Jax uses what happened to Otto
as an example of why Hale can't trust Sobel.
He also brings up what happened to Donna as a reason that Hale
needs to stop looking or start looking beyond his hatred of the

(09:52):
club. And his final visit in this
episode comes after he arrests the Sam Crow members who were
fighting with the Aryan guys in the main plot point that we're
going to talk about in a minute.But for now, we're focused on
his chat with Unser. Unser basically accuses him of
being in bed with Zobel. And this leads to a

(10:14):
confrontation about Unser being a hypocrite because of how close
he is with Clay and the club. And I kind of love this response
that Unser has. He basically, and I'm
paraphrasing, but he basically says, yeah, that's why you're
here. You're the good guy.

(10:34):
If you get dirty, then this whole place is fucked.
He then confides in Hail what happened to Gemma, and he uses
this as a way to illustrate the kind of people that Zobel and
his crew really are. And Hail emerges from this sit
down and makes a decision. He first lets the Aryan and

(10:58):
those guys go, and then he lets out the club members, but he
holds Jack and Clay back for a minute and he uses this time to
show them first the photo evidence that Zobelle had
already given him from when Weston was following Clay to the
meeting that he had with Leroy from the One Niners in the like

(11:21):
first episode of this season. He also gives them the DVD
that's got Opie's face on it blowing up the meth house, and
here's where he takes it one step further.
He basically tells them that hisbrother is full of shit and is
pulling a dirty deal on Oswald, which Clay later uses to help

(11:45):
Oswald keep his land. Hale had a really big episode
and I think that makes him a really good character to put
our, let's call it shining a headlight on in a little bit.
But first we have to we got to get to the main plot point, the
the big one for the episode. And it's this Clay versus Zoe

(12:09):
Bell feud. And when I say that Zoe Bell has
been playing chess, Clay isn't even playing checkers.
He's playing that old computer game.
I think it was called Minesweeper.
If you don't remember the game, it's one where you click these
tiles, you pull it up, it almostlooks like, but it's just all
these blank squares that look like tiles and you click on them

(12:33):
and then they flip over and showyou what's underneath.
You only had two options, nothing or a bomb.
Clay's playing that, but he's playing it like it's his first
time ever playing it. Just kind of clicking buttons
everywhere, not realizing he's going to end up with a bomb that
blows up in his face or someone's At the very beginning

(12:58):
of this episode, after some pettiness that he throws at
Jack's for just because Clay walks into Zobel's cigar shop
and puffs his chest out like he owns the place.
You know, he's real suave about it.
And he tries to extort Zobel forprotection money like he's some

(13:19):
kind of mob boss. He just watched The Godfather
and got this idea and he's like let's go get some cigars.
He steals 4 boxes of cigars which he gives to everyone
outside except for Jax because pettiness and that sets this
whole shitstorm in motion. Zobel green lights and inside

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I'm using air quotes. For those of you that can only
hear this plan that turns out tobe Otto getting jumped by like 3
Aryan dudes and the one guy takes it a step further than he
was instructed to as he stabs Otto through the eye.

(14:05):
Yeah it I've seen this show multiple times.
I know what is going to happen and it still hurts me, but
that's just the tip of the mop head.
Just kidding Iceberg is that a better one?

(14:27):
Mop head? That's that's insensitive right?
Right. Something he clearly already had
in the works right? Because all he said was the
inside plan is a go or whatever.Like he or green light on the
inside. I can't remember the exact
quote, but that was something they already had pre arranged

(14:50):
and so was the part where he went to visit Hale with that
meth lab evidence that I mentioned earlier.
Like he wouldn't have been planting that evidence in the
1st place if it wasn't part of aplan that he already had in
place. But now he's pissed off, so the

(15:13):
shitstorm is only beginning. The way that he's decided to
humble Clay is by setting in motion another plan, and this
one is explosive, and it weaves into that Gemma plot line that I
mentioned earlier. He sends the blonde girl, who we

(15:33):
learn in this episode is his daughter, to stage a van broken
down in a parking lot that just so happens to be at the store
that Gemma and Tara were in. You know, getting the vagina
cream, hence the blonde running and Gemma chasing and breaking
Tara's nose. Remember that from 5 minutes

(15:55):
ago. But that van is there because
the club runs the towing and carrepair service in town.
And when they come to pick it upand bring it back to the shop,
we see which button Clay pressed.
The one with the bomb. But not before we have a vote.

(16:18):
You see, throughout the episode,we saw the Democratic nature of
Sam Crow. Clay has a meeting with Oswald
where he learns about that land deal that smells a little fishy
and says he'll look into it for him.
But it's mostly here to just show us that how Opie is still
siding with Clay and they're trying to figure out him Tig

(16:42):
Clay. They're trying to figure out who
in the club they need to persuade to vote with Clay later
on. The gist of this all is simple.
Clay wants to retaliate against Zoe Bell for Otto's jumping
immediately, and Jax wants to wait and plan so they don't run
into a trap. And we see Jax lobbying the

(17:04):
other club members throughout the episode.
And while he's discussing it with Bobby and Piney, that's
when he learns about Tara and heheads to the hospital.
And that's where we get to see Tara interact with her boss, who
is accusing Jax of putting his hands on her because of her

(17:25):
broken nose. And Jax giving Gemma a ride home
as she's skipping out on the shrink appointment that she was
supposed to go to. Right?
That's how these things are interwoven.
And now he, with Gemma on the back, he rides up just in time
to try to stop yet another part of Zobell's plan.

(17:49):
In this case, it's the Opie faction of the club that's about
to throw down in the middle of Main Street with the Aryan crew.
And Jax tries to intervene with this and keep the peace and says
A street ball, A St. brawl is not, you know, the the answer
that they need and isn't going to lead to anything good.

(18:12):
But that's when Weston shoves his bike over and Jax ends up
being the one to throw the firstpunch in said St. brawl.
And that's how they all wound upin jail.
And that's also how Gemma witnesses it and drives her to
read J TS book. Once he's out of jail, Jax heads

(18:33):
home and finds Tara, who's upsetin Abel's room.
And she gives him kind of the most ominous warning of the
series with the most painful foreshadowing imaginable as
she's telling Jax about her struggles to find her place in
this life with him, with the club, with Gemma, who just broke

(18:57):
her nose, the violence that she that she witnesses.
And not to mention how often sheends up patching up bullet
holes. But she didn't even bring that
up. But she said something to the
effect of I can't help but shakethis feeling that something bad
is going to happen to him. And the him is pointing at Abel.

(19:20):
And my soul hurt. If you're rewatching, you know
why It's foreshadowing the finalepisode of this season and that
is the worst episode in the series in terms of emotional

(19:44):
turmoil. But Jax doesn't know the future,
not the real one anyways. What he knows is the future that
he's hoping to build and he goesto get J TS book and hands it to
Tara for her to read and he tells her his plan to get the
club away from all the things that she's afraid of.

(20:09):
Well it ain't going to happen today.
Clearly. After we get our split vote on
retaliation, which I guess meansthat Jax wins and they decide to
wait for said retaliation, the girls show up.
And everyone is just sort of drained.
Bobby gives Clay a speech about protecting the club, and that's

(20:32):
why he voted the way that he did.
And Gemma comes in to talk to Clay.
And this is where Clay, I had forgotten about this from like
every rewatch I've ever done. This was gross.
Clay gives her this like monologue about Jax, how he

(20:57):
might be more like his real dad than they thought and about how
Clay is just keeps trying to bring him close and he just
wants Jax to love him and it's all horse shit.
At the end of just one episode ago he told him to his face he

(21:18):
would kill him. He's been a petty little bitch
with him the whole episode and now he's going to lie to Gemma's
face and play victim about your son just doesn't love me.
Give me a break. But all of this is just an

(21:39):
excuse to get everyone at the clubhouse so that the final
domino can fall and blow up in Clay's face.
Well Chips face because he's theone that goes to get the van,
the one that just got towed intothe lot and he with a military
background recognizes the sound of the explosive priming and he

(22:03):
jumps out, starts running away, gets about 3 or 4 steps away and
the van blows up. And the episode ends with Tara
giving him CPR as he lays in a pool of his own blood from his
head. And while that's the whole
episode in a nutshell, I do haveone question about this ending.

(22:30):
How did the blonde get the van to the parking lot without
setting off the bomb? Are we meant to believe that
whatever she was doing when Gemma spotted her was actually
arming the bomb? Is she an explosives expert like
Opie? And why didn't it go off before

(22:52):
getting to the garage? An abandoned van in a parking
lot. Nobody tries to start it before
it gets towed. Sure.
OK. I guess you could say that she
drove it there with the bomb in place and she had a specific
thing to do to activate it without blowing herself up or

(23:16):
being noticed in a busy parking lot, which she was and had to
run away from. So she must have just gotten
gotten it done in the nick of time, I guess.
And I guess you could say that she or Zobel called the tow
truck company themselves and informed them that it wouldn't
start and that's why nobody tried to start it before

(23:38):
calling. And I guess you could say that
the guy who showed up in the towtruck was just going through the
motions of his day and just hooked it up and took it to the
garage without trying to do any sort of diagnostic or trying
anything in the parking lot first that could possibly

(23:58):
distress the bomb. But I think this is a lot of I
guesses to make the plan work out without blowing up innocent
people in this town and making sure that it actually gets
exactly where you wanted it to go before it goes boom.
I would find it more believable if there was somebody in a car

(24:19):
across the street with a remote trigger.
But if that was the case, would it have been initiated by Chubbs
in the way that it was? Or would that person wait until
it was actually in the garage orthere were more people, more
club members close to it before hitting the button and making it

(24:40):
go boom, You know, ensuring maximum damage and not just one
running away chibs to worry about.
I don't know. It's it struck me as odd.
It's, it seemed like a razor razor, razor thin wire for this
thing to be for this plan to go off without going horribly,

(25:04):
horribly wrong. But maybe that's just me.
Before we shine 1 headlight on one specific character, I'd like
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(25:25):
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section, please. So for this character headlight
session, we are going to be talking about hail and this

(25:46):
character is really starting to develop at this point in the
show. And I just wanted to spend a
little time kind of catching up on our sheriff to be he started
out as the I guess he's already a sheriff, isn't he?
Police chief, chief of the sheriff's to be, I don't know.

(26:06):
He started out as the anti Jacks, a foil to the club.
He would do anything to hurt SamCrowe, or at least we thought
really, he's just a local kid who grew up to be a cop and try
to keep his hometown safe. In his eyes, Sam Crow's doing

(26:26):
bad shit and bringing bad shit to his town and putting the
general public in danger. And the more he tries to get rid
of them, the more he realizes that maybe they actually aren't
that bad. Let us review in season 1.
He starts off by buddying up to Agent Cone, who claims to be

(26:48):
there to arrest the club for guncharges.
Well, it turns out that he's actually a psycho stalker who's
there for Tara. He and Jax, he being Hale, sort
of partner up to deal with that particular problem.
And yet Cone still nearly rapes Tara before Jax blows his head
off to get rid of that particular problem.

(27:12):
But Hale's not done there. He's also fucking Agent Stahl,
who actually is there to shut the club down for gun
distribution, and by the time hepulls his face out between her
legs he sees how dirty she's playing it and gets kicked out
of the whole thing. She's already set in motion her
plan to set up Opie to look likea rat and hopes that it's going

(27:34):
to cause him to flip on Bobby for the murder charges and the
club for the gun stuff. And that doesn't go as planned
either. Clay orders a hit on Opie and
Tig murders Donna by mistake. So he's over 2 so far and making
alliances in hopes to get rid ofSam Crow and each time it brings

(27:56):
him a little bit closer to maybeflipping his opinion of them in
some sort of way. In this episode he agrees to Jax
that he will keep the secret or not.
This episode. In this season he agrees with
Jax that he will keep the secretfrom Opie that both of them

(28:18):
suspect Clay to be responsible for his wife's murder.
In this Jax and Hale sort of relationship or partnership or
at least like cordial correspondence continues
throughout the season. And when Jax pushes for the club
to let Hale and the cops deal with the whole Darby meth lab

(28:39):
problem, you think it's going toactually solidify them a little
bit more. But Hale's still not there yet.
While he doesn't agree to work with Zobell, he also doesn't
actively shut it down to the point where he lets the meth lab
go. Which leads us to the events of

(29:00):
our current episode. He finds himself in quite the
pickle yet again. Zobel is blackmailing him and
pressing him to go after the club for the meth lab explosion.
Jax and Unser are pressing him for working with Zobel and he
gets blasted by the information that this group that he's been

(29:23):
on the fence about is 100 times worse than the club that he's
trying to get rid of. For what it's worth though, even
without the information about Gemma, I'm not sure that Hale
would have ever actively helped Zobel.
But that doesn't mean he wouldn't have continued to sort

(29:44):
of look the other way, or to cover his own ass with the new
blackmail piece of the puzzle. But in this moment that this is
the straw that kind of breaks, he finally has chosen a side.
And you know that because he confides in Clay.

(30:07):
This is the first time he's donethat.
Like I said, we've seen him and Jax work together as if they
were, as if the show was laying the groundwork for a future
partnership between these two. And almost as the idea making
sense, right, having Jax, who you are presumably grooming to

(30:29):
become the replacement for Clay at the head of the table for SOA
and you've got Hale, who's supposed to be taking over for
Unser as chief of police. These two strike up a a
friendship or a bond or a an established agreement as they
elevate and eventually we reach Clay and Unser working together.

(30:56):
But this is different than that.He despises Clay and he puts
that shit aside and shows his hand.
It's almost like he's clearing the Ledger.
He's showing them part of Zabel's plan, basically what he
knows about it. The only thing he really leaves

(31:16):
out is his own blackmail, and then as an olive branch, he adds
in the bonus of The Dirty land deal that goes against his own
brother, almost as if to reinforce that he's not choosing
sides, even family. But in doing so he is, because

(31:37):
he's certainly not doing anything active to help the
others. Now, would he have taken this
step if it wasn't for Gemma? That's where I don't think so.
I think he probably still would have worked with Jax on and off
even if it wasn't for the Gemma piece of this.

(31:58):
But Gemma is Jax's mom and Clay's wife.
It's not lost on me or anyone that those are the two guys that
he talks to and decides to help in this moment.
Like immediately in the aftermath of Unser sharing that
bit of information, he talks to them both together.

(32:23):
And it's setting the stage for the rest of the season where we
see he and Jax continue to develop their chemistry.
But right now, by including Clayand really talking to Clay,
that's where it seems like he's picked his side, at least in

(32:44):
this particular battle. All right, next, let's do some
good and not so good accolades. I've decided to do these by
highlighting positive charactersin kind of true biker fashion
with some new patches. We had those in the last
episode, and we're going to say fuck off to some others.

(33:05):
In true Sons of Anarchy fashion.They're getting bullets.
That part is new. I gave it a Brandy little name.
What do you think? Yeah, I know, I know.
All right, so for the patches, we're going to start with Bobby
for voting the right way. It's wild to me that there is

(33:27):
such a rift between Jax and Claythat they actually need to lobby
the other members for votes to basically agree with each other.
You're fighting over timing. What would the retaliation Plan
B if Clay wins right now just walk out the door and go beat up
Zobel. They would have to have some

(33:50):
kind of plan for retaliation to be what did he say?
What did he call it? Like fierce and immediate or
something like that? Like there would still have to
be a plan. Isn't that all the Jax is really
advocating for not being idiots?Retaliating with a plan, doing

(34:14):
some due diligence about your enemy and using that in your
plan and protecting yourself from the blowback that is likely
to come with a plan. Going up against a guy that you
have clearly seen has a plan. I don't know, this seems, what

(34:37):
do I know, I'm just a guy watching ATV show.
The next patch we're going to give out is to Tara for being
there for Gemma, even when it breaks her nose, literally.
And finally, I've got a patch for Hale for coming through for
the club with not only the ZobelIntel, or at least a little bit

(35:01):
of clarity about Zobel, but alsothe land grab deal that his own
brother was pulling. He didn't have to do that and he
did, and that is awesome. It also gives them the chance to
establish a little bit more of Clay and Oswald's relationship
because that thing is going to bloom and blossom as the seasons

(35:24):
go on as well. Oswald is actually going to
become very, very important for the club in not that, not that
long. It's not going to take that long
at all. But we're not.
We'd be here all day. We'd be here all day, and we
don't need to do that. What we need to do is give out
some bullets and we're going to start with Hale's brother, the

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other Hale the slimeball. Not only is Zoe Bell in town
because of him, but now he's also trying to pull a scam to
force Oswald into selling his land so that he can line his
pockets with a housing development deal.
All of this that is happening inthis season is actually his

(36:10):
fault. The next bullet that we're going
to fire is the Aryan that stabbed Otto in the eye.
He didn't have to do that. That was very personal and it
sucked. Always sucks to watch that one.
The final bullet that we are going to fire off is actually

(36:32):
for Clay for being an idiot and instigating this whole thing.
While Hale's brother is technically to blame for all of
it, Clay is pretty much to blamefor everything since he's just
puffing out his chest to Zobel with no idea who he's dealing

(36:53):
with and what repercussions could be.
You got Otto's eye, the fight inthe street which he was happy
about, Chibs getting blown up, all brought on by Clay's
humorous. And hell, you could even argue
that what happened to Gemma was avoidable.
But it's kind of hard to put theblame fully on Clay for that one

(37:13):
because they did it immediately after the first meeting.
And obviously Clay didn't even know who these guys were.
But perhaps if Clay conducts himself slightly differently in
that meeting, you know, step onein their plan might not have
been going after his wife. Who knows?
We will never know because Clay only knows 1 speed and that is

(37:42):
straightforward, full steam ahead and violent.
And that's not been helpful. Before we go, let's rewrite Sons
of Anarchy one small change to each episode at a time.
For this episode. What if Bobby had voted with

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Clay? Would they have gone right out?
And after Zobell then and there,Would someone other than Chibs
perhaps have gotten into the van?
What other trap might have been laid out for them already?
Comment on YouTube below, let meknow on social media at belated
binge or there is an exclusive Facebook group for listeners of

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the podcast. You can tell me your thoughts in
there. The best responses might even
find their way into a future episode of this podcast.
If you enjoyed this episode re binging Sons of Anarchy, give me
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right now. Thank you so much for being here
and remember life is short so bythe motorcycle.

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But when you do wear a helmet, dress for the slide, not the
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