June 27, 2025 • 38 mins
What if your most powerful intuitive abilities weren't hidden in crystal balls or tarot cards, but within your own five senses?
Eboni Banks, mystic, survivor, writer, and embodied intuition teacher, reveals how our natural intuitive gifts correlate directly with our physical senses. She unpacks the seven "clairs" - clairtangence (touch), clairgustance (taste), clairolfactance (smell), clairaudience (hearing), clairvoyance (sight), clairsentience (feeling), and claircognizance (knowing) - demystifying what many consider rare psychic abilities.
"Intuition is really part of our natural human design," Eboni explains. "It is the part of us that connects to our spirit." Through personal stories, including her accidental discovery of her own clairtangent abilities during a Reiki session and her powerful healing journey as a sexual violence survivor, Eboni demonstrates how our bodies constantly communicate wisdom through what scientists call a "connatural conversation" between mind and body.
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Granddaughter Crow (00:01):
Welcome to Belief, Being, and Beyond with
your host, Granddaughter Crow.
Hi everybody, GranddaughterCrow here and we have another
episode of Belief Being andBeyond, and this time we have a
wonderful individual who isshowing us how to connect with
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our intuition, maybe notnecessarily as something
untouchable, a gift that only afew have, but more of an
embodiment practice, using yourintuition to be able to do it
every day.
We have Eboni Banks with us.
Say hi to everyone, Eboni.
Eboni (00:49):
Hi everyone.
I'm so excited to be here andto share all the things that I
have experienced and lived withintuition and what it's taught
me.
Granddaughter Crow (00:58):
She is a mystic, a survivor yes, a writer
, an author and an embodiedteacher.
As an intuitive coach andmentor, she helps people deepen
their intuitive abilities byreconnecting with their five
senses, transforming everydayexperiences into powerful inner
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guidance.
And I am so excited abouthaving you on the show, Eboni.
It's just amazing what you do,because I think that in a world
that we want to be psychic andso we go to crystal balls and we
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go to the tarot cards and we goto which is great, I don't
think you have a problem withthat, but you're kind of like oh
, let's bring it a little evencloser to home.
Could you talk to us a littlebit about the basic foundation
of intuition embodied with thefive senses?
Eboni (02:07):
Yeah, absolutely so.
The way that I've learned tounderstand it, just through my
lived experience, is thatintuition is really a part of
our natural human design.
It is the part of us thatconnects to our spirit.
You know, we're both physicaland non-physical beings, and
we're so focused on the physicalaspect that connects to our
brain as our primary form ofintelligence.
But our non-physical beings,and we're so focused on the
physical aspect that connects toour brain as our primary form
of intelligence, but ournon-physical aspect also gives
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us, I think, even moreintelligence than our brain.
And to me, that non-physicalaspect is our intuition, you
know they both give usinformation, but in very
different ways, you know.
But because we're just sooverwhelmed with physical
reality that we ignore our otherkind of intelligence, that is
non-physical, which is ourintuition, and connecting it to
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the senses.
You know, because I'm someonewho's clear, tangent, I've
understood that all of theclairs, well, most five out of
the seven, directly correlatewith our five primary senses.
And that's like not a mistake.
You know, touch, taste, hear,smell and see correlate to five
of the seven clear senses.
And that's because that is kindof the, the bridge, that's the
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vessel that we access thosesenses through.
Does that make sense?
Granddaughter Crow (03:20):
Absolutely so.
Five senses roll through themone more time time a little
slower for me.
Eboni (03:26):
So you've got touch, taste, hearing, smell smelling
and seeing.
Granddaughter Crow (03:39):
And so then, what would the correlating
clairs?
Eboni (03:43):
be yes.
So for touch, the companionclairsense is clair tangent,
which I think of as one of thethree lesser known clairs.
Most people know clairvoyancebut they don't know all the
others and those who do knowothers, they don't know these
three.
So there's clair tangent, whichmeans clear touch Taste.
There's clair gustent, whichmeans clear touch Taste.
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There's clairgustance, whichmeans clear taste, smell.
There's clairolfactance, whichis such a weird word, which
means clear smelling.
Hearing is clairaudient, whichsome people have heard of that
one.
That means clear hearing.
And then seeing is clairvoyant,which is probably the most
popular of all the clairs, andthat means clear seeing.
Granddaughter Crow (04:23):
I love it.
And then there's two more.
I know one is Claire cognizant.
Eboni (04:29):
Yes, what is that Clear knowing?
Granddaughter Crow (04:33):
Clear knowing, like that time that you
just kind of know but you don'tknow how you know.
You know, but you know?
Eboni (04:38):
yep, and every single person has had that experience,
you know.
Granddaughter Crow (04:42):
I love that, and we talk ourselves out of it
sometimes.
And then what's the seventh?
Eboni (04:47):
one.
The seventh one isclairsentient, which means clear
feeling, which is also anexperience that a lot of people
have all the time.
You know like you can feel ifsomeone's staring at you, if
they're looking at you too long,if they're, you know, you can
just feel like people's presencearound you.
So, yes, I'm of the belief.
Everyone is clear somethingbecause we are all having these
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experiences, mostlysubconsciously, because people
aren't aware that they don'tthink about it as intuition,
they don't think about it as aspiritual form of receiving
information and intelligence.
They don't think about it thisway, you know, and so,
unfortunately, because theydon't, they also don't develop
it.
You know, because it's, it'sthere for us.
We just have to learn how touse it and understand it.
Granddaughter Crow (05:32):
I love that quick little story.
I really got to know myself andin a minute I really want to
talk about how is somebodysupposed to understand, if
they're just beginning, whichone?
They might be more than anotheror that, but it was really kind
of funny because I too am aperson who does one on one
sessions and have been doingthat for a long time.
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And I was downed at working outof a shop and I'm really,
really conscious with the, theclairsentience and the
clairaudient and theclairvoyance, and I get a lot of
gut checks and that kind ofthing.
And somebody said oh, are you,you know, claretangent?
And I'm like I don't think so.
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And so then I sat down and thisone lady who wanted a reading a
session with me, who wanted areading a session with me, she
just came right in, said can Ihave your hand?
So I offered her my hand, sheput a wallet in there and she
said what do you feel?
And it was so wild.
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This was my first wow, I'mdoing this and I didn't even
know.
It was like I had to close myeyes and I just felt like it
felt like these pictures startedcoming in and I'm like whoa, I
see a restaurant and I see thisand I see where breakfast and I
hear music and it came throughso clearly tell, it was brought
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to my attention and it wasreally, really cool.
And you're right, that is onethat I mean.
How do you know how to, if youhave that or develop it?
And I think that one of thethings I used to go get my nails
done and my haircut at thesalons the older I get Eboni,
the more sensitive I get.
I don't want strangers touchingmy fingers and my hair.
I've got select, spiritualpeople who come and do my hair
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for me because I pick up toomuch Like I don't want to know
about what your life situationis because you're doing my nails
, and they don't want me to knowabout their life situation.
You know what I?
Eboni (07:40):
mean yes, wow, and hair is like antenna in a way you
know, so you got.
Hair is actually very sacred.
You have to be really, reallymindful of, like, who we allow
to be in our hair in general.
Granddaughter Crow (07:52):
So I love that.
Get them out of your hair ingeneral Out of your hair?
Eboni (07:56):
Yes, you have to have.
Not everybody can touch shouldbe touching your hair.
Granddaughter Crow (08:00):
How would somebody be able to identify
what Claire they might be, andhow?
Eboni (08:10):
Yes, that's such a good question.
So the Claire's are similar toour five primary senses in that
you can have more than one, justlike we can.
I'm looking at you now, I'mhearing you now and you know
these things are all happeningat the same time.
They can happen at the sametime, so it's not like you only
have one.
Most people have multiple butthere will be one that is more
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dominant for the person.
You know like, yeah, I thinkfor me I say Claire tangent is
more dominant, but I experiencedClaire sentient a lot, you know
, just like in every.
It's just a big part of myeveryday life and so it's
claircognizant.
And before I move on, I want toshare too with clairtangent.
It's different from the otherclairs because the touch
triggers clairsentient andclairvoyant, right.
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So, like when I'm in a sessionwith a client and I'm touching
them that's why, when you weretalking about, like, all the
things that were coming to you,that's because touch was
triggering those things.
So you probably saw visions inyour mind's eye and you probably
just automatically like, feltthings too, right, because
that's how it is with my clients, that's how I get information
from them, because the touchtriggers all these things for me
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.
So if I don't touch them Idon't see things in my mind's
eye like I do when I do touchthem.
So I just wanted to like sharethat and Claire's tangent is.
That is really specific toClaire's tangent.
The other Claire's don'ttrigger each other in the same,
in the same way, you know.
Granddaughter Crow (09:32):
See, I learn something new every day.
Eboni (09:35):
Yes, but in terms of how do you know which one is most
dominant for you?
It's really about bringing,like, as much awareness to
yourself as possible and payingattention to what you, how your
body, is responding, because Iprocess intuition through the
physical body, you know, throughthe clear, through the senses,
obviously.
And so it's really about payingattention to how your body is
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responding, cause it's alwaysgiving us cues and signals all
day long.
We're receiving cues andsignals, but we don't pay
attention to them.
So I think of it as you know,the cue and the signal is like
your intuition's way of saying,like hey, pay attention, like I
have information for you.
You know, it's like the hello,and so once you pay attention to
your body's cues and signals,you can see what you're
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responding to.
Is it, you know, sound, which?
Is it touch, taste, hear, smellor see?
Like which one of those thingsare you responding to?
Mostly when it comes to, like,getting information, you know is
that?
Granddaughter Crow (10:28):
is that a good?
Does that answer it for you?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I think that with gifts and Iwant to get your take on this,
Eboni, because you've beenworking with a lot of people and
studying this and writing abook I really want to say check
out Eboni Banks.
Body way intuitioncom.
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Follow on social media, Insta,tick, talk the same at body way
intuition.
Now my question for you is um,I'm going to have to cut there
because I flew off the handleand then I can't.
You're allowed, because I waslike, oh, this is great.
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And then I was like, where didmy thought go?
I actually might leave this inbecause it's just silly.
What was my question?
Oh, so I was going down theline, oh, got it.
Oh, so I was going down theline, oh, got it.
So here's my question,observation, and I'd love to
hear your take.
Sometimes in my lived experience, I just kind of was like I
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could see and hear things, but Ididn't know that other people
couldn't see and hear things.
Yes, so I felt like all natural, and I remember being in
corporate America and you know,realizing that I'm gifted,
wanting to shut it down, longstory.
But I was like somebody walkedpast my office and I'd be like,
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hey, how's the move going?
And they'd stop and they'd lookat me and I'd say, well, aren't
you like moved?
And they were like nobody toldme, nobody.
I haven't told anybody that.
How do you know?
And I'm like, damn it, how come?
You just looked like you weremoving to me, like you were
moving houses, and it's not likeyou know.
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And so are other things.
Do you find that a lot ofpeople who have these gifts
don't realize that they're giftsuntil they start?
like going compare contrast withothers or what do you think
about that?
Eboni (12:37):
That's a good question.
I think, generally speaking,people pacify their ability to
experience these things, youknow, because, like I said, I
believe everyone is having thesekinds of experiences on a
consistent basis throughouttheir life, right, but they
don't recognize them.
And so, because they don'trecognize it, they're just like
ah, you know, it's not a bigdeal, it's not a thing.
When it is a big deal, it is athing, you know.
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And so, um, I think it'sdifferent for different people.
I know, for me I had a hardtime, like accepting this part
of myself.
For a really long time I thoughtI was weird, I thought people
would think I was weird.
I like asked myself like am Icrazy?
Like to other people, like,hear and know, like what I'm
hearing and knowing is this.
So I went through my own littlejourney of that and for a while
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I too didn't realize otherpeople didn't know and hear and
see things in the way that I did, you know.
But once but once I did realizethat, oh, this is not something
everyone experiences as oftenas I do, you know, because it's
happening to me, like it's sucha part of my life, it's
happening all day, every day.
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I didn't realize other peopledidn't, it wasn't happening for
them in the same way.
So I had to like go through awhole lot of checks and balances
in myself just to like makesure, like, am I healthy, like
what is happening here, you know.
And then, um, you know.
Then I just came to accept thatI am.
When I learned I was cleartangent.
I learned that accidentally Iwas not looking for it at all,
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and so that experience for me Iwas like, okay, I'm done, I'm
done, I can't pretend thisanymore.
I can't hide, I can't diminishit.
Okay, I get the messageuniverse, you want me to own
this part of who I am.
I'm done trying to belittlethis.
Granddaughter Crow (14:23):
Can you tell us that story?
Would you share that story ofhow you accidentally found one
of your most powerful gifts,because I love this.
Eboni (14:32):
Yes, it's so wild, it just it blows me away so.
I had been going to a Reikimaster's house just for regular
spiritual events.
You know, I had a relationshipwith her and she would have all
kinds of people coming over toher house and I just loved her.
She was like a godmother to me,you know.
And so at one of these events Idecided to get a service of
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hers because she offered allthese different services, and so
I thought I scheduled, you know, something else to be done and
on the day we scheduled it maybetwo weeks before the actual
event, so the day of the event Ishow up at her house for it and
she's ready to attune me toReiki.
And at that time I knew whatReiki was but I really was not
interested in being like a Reikipractitioner or anything, and I
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think I had scheduled anappointment.
I thought I scheduled it tolike have my chakras cleared or
something, some other energywork.
So because I had so muchrespect for her and she was
prepared like she went throughwhatever she had to go through
to like to prepare, to prepareherself to share Reiki with me
in this way, I just didn't wantto stray from what she prepared
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for because I respected her somuch, you know.
So we walked from her house tothis park and we were out there
for a few hours.
She's praying over me, attuningme to Reiki, doing all the
things, and then this man comesover and he cause we're in a
public park and he's like, whatare you all doing?
And he sees that the papers sayReiki and he's like, oh, do you
want to practice on me?
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And the woman is like oh, youknow, the universe always sends
you exactly what you need whenyou need it.
So he lays down in the grassand I'm essentially doing what
she just taught me to do.
And I asked her if I could talk,because I was getting all this
information about his wife anddaughter.
And usually Reiki is a silentpractice.
You know, you don't talk, it'sjust like channeling the energy.
So she's like of course.
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So I started telling him whathis body was telling me, because
that's how I see my readings,like I'm telling you what your
body's telling me.
And then by the time I got tothe top of his head, because I
started the soles of his feetand I still do my sessions this
way to this day from the bottomof the feet to the top of the
head I had all this whole storyI had shared with him about his
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wife and daughter and he wassilent the entire time.
So when we're done he's like oh, you're exactly right, how do
you know all of that?
And I told him I have no ideabecause I've never done that in
my life until right now.
So I didn't even know thatclear tangent was a thing.
I didn't know the word and inthe early years of seeing
clients I would say it's likeReiki.
Granddaughter Crow (17:02):
But I'm talking that's how I would
describe it.
I love it Because I didn't knowhow else to describe it.
I love it.
Can people just a side note?
Can people book online with you?
Eboni (17:15):
Yeah, absolutely Get a session with you.
Yes, because right now I'm onlydoing remote sessions, which
sounds odd because it's touch,but I have this teddy bear.
I think it's so when I doremote sessions I use a teddy
bear and the teddy bear is likethe person's body for me.
I think it's just my brain'sway of understanding, like what
is happening, you know, but byrequest I do in-person sessions
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too, but mostly they've been,they've been remote for years
now, since COVID I think.
Granddaughter Crow (17:41):
actually, yeah, I love it.
So you guys can book with Eboniat bodywayintuitioncom.
So I have another question foryou that I'm just curious, and
if I'm curious, I bet a listeneris too.
In your beautiful bio you referto yourself as a survivor and I
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want for you, as a survivor, toshare as much as you wish.
But why do you what?
What is the story?
Eboni (18:17):
behind the word.
Oh goodness, it connects so muchto this work and to how I
understand intuition and whyI've called my company
Bodyweight Intuition.
I'm a sexual violence survivorand I repressed it for many
years and I've learned thatrepression is a common response
to sexual violence.
And so I, when it was like myconsciousness was allowing me to
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acknowledge that somethinghorrible happened to me that I
had to deal with, allowing me toacknowledge that something
horrible happened to me that Ihad to deal with, it was all
showing up through my body.
I was doing yoga and I wascrying after yoga classes.
I was just releasing so muchthrough my body and it was just
giving me all these cues andsignals.
It was telling me so much.
And so that's kind of how I'vecome to understand intuition
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through the body, because of myhealing journey.
That's how I healed.
It was through my body, it was.
It was me, my most intelligentpart of myself, speaking to me
through my body, and so that'show all of it like connects for
me and why I can I talk about itthrough the senses and through
the body.
Granddaughter Crow (19:20):
You know what is so beautiful about that.
Thank you for sharing that.
But what's so beautiful aboutthat is that a lot of people who
have gone through trauma,whatever type, will not want to
embody.
They don't want to go intotheir body because the trauma
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response and it literally is theamygdala and there's a lot of
science behind that.
So it's extra that you wentthrough that and then were able
to re-embody.
Eboni (19:54):
Yeah, I know it's amazing .
I learned that there's a termcalled a natural conversation,
so the mind and the body arealways talking like 24 hours a
day.
Our mind and body are alwaystalking to each other and so I
was doing all these healingthings.
I mean this is over years, youknow.
I was depressed for two years,I retreated from my social
circle.
I mean there were days I stayedin bed like for a very long
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time, like I went.
It wasn't like this pretty easything, you know, and all of that
was like me bringing that tolife, like me dealing with all
this stuff that I had held in mybody for so long, you know.
And and I had tried yoga, likeprobably 10 years before, and I
hated it and I was like I'mnever doing this again.
But but when I tried yoga thesecond time around, like I loved
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the way it put me in my body,even though it made me cry, and
it was so upset, like I, becausesome part of me, whatever it,
was like ready to deal with thisstuff, you know.
So, yeah, it's it really is.
I'm just so grateful because Iwas doing, I was in so much
prayer and meditation andcrystal therapy and like all the
things, and so how I've learnedto understand it is that by
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doing all these things, thesespiritual things, to support
myself, I created a strongerconversation between my mind and
my body.
Granddaughter Crow (21:13):
What do you call that again?
Eboni (21:14):
A natural conversation.
C-o-n-n-a-t-u-a-r-a-l.
Yeah, and I learned that termfrom Dr oh, what's his name?
Granddaughter Crow (21:29):
He's an Ivy League educated doctor.
Eboni (21:29):
We'll'll put it, we'll put it, we'll remember it.
Yeah, yeah, I can look it up.
The book is somewhere behind meI love it, I love it.
Granddaughter Crow (21:35):
You know, that's just speaks to the
resilience of your soul,absolutely, and I see that as a
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guiding light, absolutely, whichis a whole journey in and of
itself.
But you can actually thenstrengthen and not just make
lemonade, but like the wholemeringue pie and all of these
things that you're doing.
It's just, it's, it's, it's,it's.
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I don't, I'm not kind of at aloss for words, because that's
just survivor resilientresilient survivor.
If I could edit your bio, Iwould input resilient survivor,
because you didn't just survive,you are resilient.
Eboni (22:39):
Thank you so much and it's so funny that that word is
coming up because I have asecond book which is actually
the first book I wrote, but it'sthe second one that will be
coming out which is a memoir,and someone was reading my
memoir is actually the firstbook I wrote, but it's the
second one that will be comingout which is a memoir.
And someone was reading mymemoir and like the early parts
of it where I talk about mychildhood and the person said to
me oh you're so.
You're such a resilient child.
You know, this happened to meas an adult, but like this
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resilient thing is in me, it'swho I am, you know.
Granddaughter Crow (23:03):
I love that, you know, ok, okay, so here's
another question.
Um, she said she was an openbook, so I'm going there.
Yeah, I am.
I heard.
Uh, you mentioned briefly atLlewellynCon 2025.
I'm going to put the link belowso you guys, I'm referencing it
, but I want you guys to be ableto watch Eboni Banks talk even
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more in depth about this at theLlewellynCon 2025.
And it'll be the link forYouTube for Llewellyn Follow
Llewellyn.
But you briefly mentioned thatyou were raised in a religion
and I'm just like, ooh, let's gothere, because, because I was
too, I was raised by reverenceof the Christian faith.
Eboni (23:52):
Whoa.
Granddaughter Crow (23:52):
Who met in seminary school and I was,
whatever anointed to be, tocarry that torch.
But here's the crazy thing myfather's full blood Navajo.
So I have a long story.
But at the end of the day I seemy father as a medicine man who
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did it in a way that was ableto appease Christianity and the
white body at that time, and sothat's kind of how I see it.
So I always relate and I knowthat we have a lot of people out
there who came from whetherit's Christianity or whatever,
no shame, you know, no, but somesort of a dogma or a dogma.
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That was a little bit difficult.
Can you talk just briefly aboutyour childhood and how you know
, how you're?
Eboni Banks, writing booksabout intuition and touching,
doing Reiki with words and allof that.
Eboni (24:51):
Yeah, yes, yes, I was definitely raised in a strong
Christian family.
I'm African-American A lot ofAfrican-Americans are religious
just culturally, and soChristianity was my family's
religion and I went to Sundayschool, and all that as a child,
like for years.
You know, thing I appreciatemost about my Christian
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upbringing is that it gave me anawareness of non-physical
presence.
You know, like I understoodthat this physical world is just
one aspect of reality, and soI'm grateful for that, because I
got that at a very young age.
Like that's how I understoodthe things they were telling me,
because I was like studying it.
I was like why is Jesus he and I?
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I was, you know, I wasn't likeagreeable with what I was, I was
learning and, um, so I guess Idon't know.
I think my healing journey andjust who I am, my family is,
although very religious they are, I also have my great
grandmother at Palms for aliving and so no-transcript,
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being in her living room inlines of people waiting to see
her.
So they also understood there'sthis other way of life, you
know.
Granddaughter Crow (26:34):
Yeah, I absolutely love that and you
know, it's kind of interestingbecause I actually I've heard of
so many people who were raisedin a religion, but I like the
way that you said it, because ofculture and that's what you do
and that part of the country oryou know, that's just what you
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do and you know and I love itbecause, as it sounds like as a
child, you questioned and youwere curious and that, for me,
is a part of your resilience.
That is, the questioning andthe curiosity is like the
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motivator toward, is a part ofhow you do resilience.
I'm not, I'm not trying to giveyou a read or nothing, I just
see no thank you for that.
Eboni (27:26):
I receive that.
Thank you.
That's so beautiful and I'vealways questioned when I was
little, when I was like reallylittle, I would wonder where I
would be if I didn't have a body.
This is what my little brainwas thinking you know, because I
was hearing all this stuff inchurch about like non-physical
life, and so I was just, likeyou know, trying to understand,
basically, you know.
Granddaughter Crow (27:46):
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
You know.
It also brings in that thatidea that you know as spiritual
people.
When we're talking to peoplewho and we understand physical
and non-physical, and weunderstand what intuition is and
we're getting to know moreabout that, or we understand,
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you know, all of these beingsand deities that are Reiki and
energy and consciousness thatthere is sometimes when we speak
with people who aren't of thesame mind that we might just
jump over, that they areignoring that there is a
non-reality when really they maybe coming from reality or
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non-physical, unseen world orwhatever, that they only
subscribe to the physical, seenworld.
I kind of doing what I do forso long sometimes I kind of
forget that.
You know what I mean.
Eboni (28:45):
Yes, that's such a good point.
And it blows me away too that Iguess I'd probably blow people
away too.
The way I process life right,we're all just trying to survive
, but it blows me away thatpeople process life with, like
only that acknowledgement,because it's it's only half of
the whole.
You know, like you're missingso much.
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You're missing so much.
You know, we know we'respiritual beings, we're
spiritual beings first.
So how can you like not payattention to all that and
whatever that is for you and foryour people?
And you know so.
Granddaughter Crow (29:21):
It's just it's so wild Okay, back to
intuition, embodiment and all ofthat that we are using the
physical five senses for themost part, like my husband isn't
as the best at hearing and I'vegot really sharp ears.
I'm not the best with my sightand he has really great sight
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and no shame, no blame, we makeone person.
When we get together, we canwalk down the street right but
it's really kind of interestingbecause we take a lot of those,
the touch and the taste and allof that.
We understand it because welive in that and you help us to
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bridge that.
We have already been operatingwith like physical senses.
Now we can translate those intointuition and non unseen world.
Am I catching that right?
Because that makes a perfectbridge.
Eboni (30:33):
Yes, you are, because essentially what it is is, it is
an acknowledgement of ourintuition, bridges our
subconscious and our consciousmind, you know, because
intuition lives in oursubconscious mind and so all the
information, the cues and thethings that we're getting, it's
happening subconsciously.
Once we acknowledge it andactually get the information,
then it becomes conscious.
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So the journey, the intuitivejourney, is all about bridging
the subconscious with theconscious, because we have all
this wisdom in our subconsciousmind and it is expressing itself
through our body in a millionways and all we have to do is
pay attention to it.
And it's also, you know, alittle bit about think.
You have to think differentlytoo, because, like touch, for
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example, you know, when we feelthe sun in our arms and that
heat from the sun, like that's aform of touch, you know the
energy is touching our arms.
So it's like also a little, alittle bit, of shifting how you
think about the senses, becauseit doesn't show up in the same
way that touch does, you know,like when you're touching a
person, but it shows up througha similar process.
Granddaughter Crow (31:40):
Does that make sense?
Absolutely, are you?
I got to tell you listeners,Eboni has a book coming out and,
if you're seeing this in nextyear, she had a book coming out.
December 2025 called yourIntuitive Nudge.
I think it's a step-by-stepguide to connect with your
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intuition.
Yes, so basically a lot of whatyou're saying.
Are they going to be able tofind that in the book?
So it's like if they are like,oh, this tastes really good,
both, claire, is it?
What is the type taste?
Eboni (32:17):
Claire Gustin.
Granddaughter Crow (32:18):
Yeah, this tastes really good, claire
Gustin style.
Like you're getting it.
Like this tastes good.
Then you can pick up her book.
It is ready for pre-order.
You can go to her websitebodywayintuitioncom, and her
publisher is Llewellyn.
Eboni (32:35):
Thank you.
So the book really focuses onthe Claire's are in there and it
really focuses on how you'rebeing, you know, because that's
the key.
That's the key.
It's not about what you'redoing.
You don't have to do anything,you don't have to go somewhere
and meditate for X amount ofhours, and you just have to
bring your awareness to yourselfto get all this information.
Granddaughter Crow (32:57):
So the book is really focused on how you're
being.
I love that my mic didn't cutout.
Eboni (33:04):
I'm just actually, you know, because so many people
think that you have to travel tothese sacred places or you have
to buy these things and youhave to do all these things.
You know outside of you inorder to access this.
But no, all the power, all theto do all these things.
You know outside of you inorder to access this.
But no, all the power, all thewisdom, all the intelligence, it
lives inside of you and youjust have to bring that.
You just have to bring yourawareness to that.
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That is already there.
It's already there.
It's like dormant, you know.
You just have to bring yourawareness to that and then learn
how you are communicating withyou.
Granddaughter Crow (33:35):
One of the things that leads people towards
spirituality sometimes is toexperience life outside of their
life, to go up into the starsand everything, which I'm good
with, and yet and yet, and so welook for our intuition
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somewhere, far, far away.
Yes, but really what I found isthat embodying it is actually
like the connector, theinterconnector between all of
that wisdom.
It's here, and so it's notabout up and out, it's about
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going within, which I think is avery, very important part of
our spiritual path, irregardlessof how far along your path you
are the remembering of beingembodied.
Embodied.
Why is it so important to beembodied?
And do you have any thoughtsaround how sometimes people go
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up and out and you're?
like oh get back in your body,you know.
Eboni (34:43):
Oh, why is it so important?
I mean, the body is just sowise.
It is so wise it holds everymemory from utero.
You know it is.
It has the entirety of our lifeexperience things our brain has
forgotten, like what we'verepressed, painful experiences
that we've repressed.
Our body has not forgottenthose experiences, even though
your brain might let you forgetit, because it was so hurtful,
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your body hasn't forgotten it.
You know, it's just thisincredible tool and it can do so
much more for us than just helpus function and use the five
senses, because I think aboutthe five primary senses, as you
know, navigators for physicallife, like we need to eat and do
these things right.
We need all of them, but theclear senses are the things that
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help us navigate non-physicallife, you know, and all of it is
processed through the body.
So the body is just it's so,it's it's.
It's incredible.
I mean, we know this alreadyabout our bodies, but we don't
think about it in this context,you know, and so, and the more
you are in these places becauseit's where all the wisdom lives
the more that you can have agreater experience to what
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you're experiencing outside ofyou.
You know, like you have to.
You have to connect with allthat in you first, because
whatever drew you to whatever,whatever you're going to outside
of you originates inside of you.
Granddaughter Crow (36:11):
You know so the experience of that thing
outside of you is going to begreater when you, when you allow
yourself to not only say thatyou are a teacher, but that you
are an embodied teacher.
What does that mean?
I mean, I get an impression andI'm like let's do this, but
define embodied teacher andembodiments.
Eboni (36:33):
To me that just means that I've lived it.
You know, it's not somethingthat someone just like taught me
or I read in a book Like I haveactually lived everything that
I'm teaching, you know so thatyeah, to me that's how I'm able
to teach it, because I've livedit.
If I didn't live it, how couldI, how could I teach it?
Granddaughter Crow (36:56):
It's, it's really that whole thing where
the interconnectivity of you asan organism with your brain and
your body and your heart and youknow your spirit, being able to
find that balance and then, andhearing, and actually have that
internal dialogue.
Eboni (37:16):
Yes, yes, yes, it's happening all day long.
I mean, just like life iscommunicating, you know, to us
all day long, like we'recommunicating to ourselves all
day long, all day long.
Granddaughter Crow (37:25):
I love it If we just listen.
Is there any last words orfinal thing that I haven't asked
or we haven't because we'vegone into some great things in
the matter of 45 minutes?
Is there anything else that youwant to share with my listening
audience?
Eboni (37:43):
People to know that you know the higher level intuitive
experiences are something thateveryone is capable of.
It is not at all reserved toany kind of special person or
anything like that.
It is just.
I just want people to know thisis like a natural part of being
a human being.
Granddaughter Crow (38:01):
Thank you so much, Eboni, and thank you
listeners.
This is yet another episode ofBelief, being and Beyond.
You can like, subscribe, share,text the show if you're getting
it through the podcast.
And, Eboni, thank you so muchfor being on.
It has been a delight and I'dlove to have you on with your
books about the memoir and talka little bit more about that,
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because you're just such aresilient individual.
I love it.
Thank you so much, love.
Ya See you on the Flippity Flip.
Welcome to Belief, Being, and Beyond with
your host, Granddaughter Crow.
Hi everybody, GranddaughterCrow here and we have another
episode of Belief Being andBeyond, and this time we have a
wonderful individual who isshowing us how to connect with
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our intuition, maybe notnecessarily as something
untouchable, a gift that only afew have, but more of an
embodiment practice, using yourintuition to be able to do it
every day.
We have Eboni Banks with us.
Say hi to everyone, Eboni.
Eboni (00:49):
Hi everyone.
I'm so excited to be here andto share all the things that I
have experienced and lived withintuition and what it's taught
me.
Granddaughter Crow (00:58):
She is a mystic, a survivor yes, a writer
, an author and an embodiedteacher.
As an intuitive coach andmentor, she helps people deepen
their intuitive abilities byreconnecting with their five
senses, transforming everydayexperiences into powerful inner
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guidance.
And I am so excited abouthaving you on the show, Eboni.
It's just amazing what you do,because I think that in a world
that we want to be psychic andso we go to crystal balls and we
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go to the tarot cards and we goto which is great, I don't
think you have a problem withthat, but you're kind of like oh
, let's bring it a little evencloser to home.
Could you talk to us a littlebit about the basic foundation
of intuition embodied with thefive senses?
Eboni (02:07):
Yeah, absolutely so.
The way that I've learned tounderstand it, just through my
lived experience, is thatintuition is really a part of
our natural human design.
It is the part of us thatconnects to our spirit.
You know, we're both physicaland non-physical beings, and
we're so focused on the physicalaspect that connects to our
brain as our primary form ofintelligence.
But our non-physical beings,and we're so focused on the
physical aspect that connects toour brain as our primary form
of intelligence, but ournon-physical aspect also gives
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us, I think, even moreintelligence than our brain.
And to me, that non-physicalaspect is our intuition, you
know they both give usinformation, but in very
different ways, you know.
But because we're just sooverwhelmed with physical
reality that we ignore our otherkind of intelligence, that is
non-physical, which is ourintuition, and connecting it to
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the senses.
You know, because I'm someonewho's clear, tangent, I've
understood that all of theclairs, well, most five out of
the seven, directly correlatewith our five primary senses.
And that's like not a mistake.
You know, touch, taste, hear,smell and see correlate to five
of the seven clear senses.
And that's because that is kindof the, the bridge, that's the
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vessel that we access thosesenses through.
Does that make sense?
Granddaughter Crow (03:20):
Absolutely so.
Five senses roll through themone more time time a little
slower for me.
Eboni (03:26):
So you've got touch, taste, hearing, smell smelling
and seeing.
Granddaughter Crow (03:39):
And so then, what would the correlating
clairs?
Eboni (03:43):
be yes.
So for touch, the companionclairsense is clair tangent,
which I think of as one of thethree lesser known clairs.
Most people know clairvoyancebut they don't know all the
others and those who do knowothers, they don't know these
three.
So there's clair tangent, whichmeans clear touch Taste.
There's clair gustent, whichmeans clear touch Taste.
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There's clairgustance, whichmeans clear taste, smell.
There's clairolfactance, whichis such a weird word, which
means clear smelling.
Hearing is clairaudient, whichsome people have heard of that
one.
That means clear hearing.
And then seeing is clairvoyant,which is probably the most
popular of all the clairs, andthat means clear seeing.
Granddaughter Crow (04:23):
I love it.
And then there's two more.
I know one is Claire cognizant.
Eboni (04:29):
Yes, what is that Clear knowing?
Granddaughter Crow (04:33):
Clear knowing, like that time that you
just kind of know but you don'tknow how you know.
You know, but you know?
Eboni (04:38):
yep, and every single person has had that experience,
you know.
Granddaughter Crow (04:42):
I love that, and we talk ourselves out of it
sometimes.
And then what's the seventh?
Eboni (04:47):
one.
The seventh one isclairsentient, which means clear
feeling, which is also anexperience that a lot of people
have all the time.
You know like you can feel ifsomeone's staring at you, if
they're looking at you too long,if they're, you know, you can
just feel like people's presencearound you.
So, yes, I'm of the belief.
Everyone is clear somethingbecause we are all having these
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experiences, mostlysubconsciously, because people
aren't aware that they don'tthink about it as intuition,
they don't think about it as aspiritual form of receiving
information and intelligence.
They don't think about it thisway, you know, and so,
unfortunately, because theydon't, they also don't develop
it.
You know, because it's, it'sthere for us.
We just have to learn how touse it and understand it.
Granddaughter Crow (05:32):
I love that quick little story.
I really got to know myself andin a minute I really want to
talk about how is somebodysupposed to understand, if
they're just beginning, whichone?
They might be more than anotheror that, but it was really kind
of funny because I too am aperson who does one on one
sessions and have been doingthat for a long time.
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And I was downed at working outof a shop and I'm really,
really conscious with the, theclairsentience and the
clairaudient and theclairvoyance, and I get a lot of
gut checks and that kind ofthing.
And somebody said oh, are you,you know, claretangent?
And I'm like I don't think so.
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And so then I sat down and thisone lady who wanted a reading a
session with me, who wanted areading a session with me, she
just came right in, said can Ihave your hand?
So I offered her my hand, sheput a wallet in there and she
said what do you feel?
And it was so wild.
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This was my first wow, I'mdoing this and I didn't even
know.
It was like I had to close myeyes and I just felt like it
felt like these pictures startedcoming in and I'm like whoa, I
see a restaurant and I see thisand I see where breakfast and I
hear music and it came throughso clearly tell, it was brought
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to my attention and it wasreally, really cool.
And you're right, that is onethat I mean.
How do you know how to, if youhave that or develop it?
And I think that one of thethings I used to go get my nails
done and my haircut at thesalons the older I get Eboni,
the more sensitive I get.
I don't want strangers touchingmy fingers and my hair.
I've got select, spiritualpeople who come and do my hair
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for me because I pick up toomuch Like I don't want to know
about what your life situationis because you're doing my nails
, and they don't want me to knowabout their life situation.
You know what I?
Eboni (07:40):
mean yes, wow, and hair is like antenna in a way you
know, so you got.
Hair is actually very sacred.
You have to be really, reallymindful of, like, who we allow
to be in our hair in general.
Granddaughter Crow (07:52):
So I love that.
Get them out of your hair ingeneral Out of your hair?
Eboni (07:56):
Yes, you have to have.
Not everybody can touch shouldbe touching your hair.
Granddaughter Crow (08:00):
How would somebody be able to identify
what Claire they might be, andhow?
Eboni (08:10):
Yes, that's such a good question.
So the Claire's are similar toour five primary senses in that
you can have more than one, justlike we can.
I'm looking at you now, I'mhearing you now and you know
these things are all happeningat the same time.
They can happen at the sametime, so it's not like you only
have one.
Most people have multiple butthere will be one that is more
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dominant for the person.
You know like, yeah, I thinkfor me I say Claire tangent is
more dominant, but I experiencedClaire sentient a lot, you know
, just like in every.
It's just a big part of myeveryday life and so it's
claircognizant.
And before I move on, I want toshare too with clairtangent.
It's different from the otherclairs because the touch
triggers clairsentient andclairvoyant, right.
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So, like when I'm in a sessionwith a client and I'm touching
them that's why, when you weretalking about, like, all the
things that were coming to you,that's because touch was
triggering those things.
So you probably saw visions inyour mind's eye and you probably
just automatically like, feltthings too, right, because
that's how it is with my clients, that's how I get information
from them, because the touchtriggers all these things for me
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.
So if I don't touch them Idon't see things in my mind's
eye like I do when I do touchthem.
So I just wanted to like sharethat and Claire's tangent is.
That is really specific toClaire's tangent.
The other Claire's don'ttrigger each other in the same,
in the same way, you know.
Granddaughter Crow (09:32):
See, I learn something new every day.
Eboni (09:35):
Yes, but in terms of how do you know which one is most
dominant for you?
It's really about bringing,like, as much awareness to
yourself as possible and payingattention to what you, how your
body, is responding, because Iprocess intuition through the
physical body, you know, throughthe clear, through the senses,
obviously.
And so it's really about payingattention to how your body is
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responding, cause it's alwaysgiving us cues and signals all
day long.
We're receiving cues andsignals, but we don't pay
attention to them.
So I think of it as you know,the cue and the signal is like
your intuition's way of saying,like hey, pay attention, like I
have information for you.
You know, it's like the hello,and so once you pay attention to
your body's cues and signals,you can see what you're
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responding to.
Is it, you know, sound, which?
Is it touch, taste, hear, smellor see?
Like which one of those thingsare you responding to?
Mostly when it comes to, like,getting information, you know is
that?
Granddaughter Crow (10:28):
is that a good?
Does that answer it for you?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I think that with gifts and Iwant to get your take on this,
Eboni, because you've beenworking with a lot of people and
studying this and writing abook I really want to say check
out Eboni Banks.
Body way intuitioncom.
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Follow on social media, Insta,tick, talk the same at body way
intuition.
Now my question for you is um,I'm going to have to cut there
because I flew off the handleand then I can't.
You're allowed, because I waslike, oh, this is great.
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And then I was like, where didmy thought go?
I actually might leave this inbecause it's just silly.
What was my question?
Oh, so I was going down theline, oh, got it.
Oh, so I was going down theline, oh, got it.
So here's my question,observation, and I'd love to
hear your take.
Sometimes in my lived experience, I just kind of was like I
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could see and hear things, but Ididn't know that other people
couldn't see and hear things.
Yes, so I felt like all natural, and I remember being in
corporate America and you know,realizing that I'm gifted,
wanting to shut it down, longstory.
But I was like somebody walkedpast my office and I'd be like,
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hey, how's the move going?
And they'd stop and they'd lookat me and I'd say, well, aren't
you like moved?
And they were like nobody toldme, nobody.
I haven't told anybody that.
How do you know?
And I'm like, damn it, how come?
You just looked like you weremoving to me, like you were
moving houses, and it's not likeyou know.
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And so are other things.
Do you find that a lot ofpeople who have these gifts
don't realize that they're giftsuntil they start?
like going compare contrast withothers or what do you think
about that?
Eboni (12:37):
That's a good question.
I think, generally speaking,people pacify their ability to
experience these things, youknow, because, like I said, I
believe everyone is having thesekinds of experiences on a
consistent basis throughouttheir life, right, but they
don't recognize them.
And so, because they don'trecognize it, they're just like
ah, you know, it's not a bigdeal, it's not a thing.
When it is a big deal, it is athing, you know.
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And so, um, I think it'sdifferent for different people.
I know, for me I had a hardtime, like accepting this part
of myself.
For a really long time I thoughtI was weird, I thought people
would think I was weird.
I like asked myself like am Icrazy?
Like to other people, like,hear and know, like what I'm
hearing and knowing is this.
So I went through my own littlejourney of that and for a while
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I too didn't realize otherpeople didn't know and hear and
see things in the way that I did, you know.
But once but once I did realizethat, oh, this is not something
everyone experiences as oftenas I do, you know, because it's
happening to me, like it's sucha part of my life, it's
happening all day, every day.
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I didn't realize other peopledidn't, it wasn't happening for
them in the same way.
So I had to like go through awhole lot of checks and balances
in myself just to like makesure, like, am I healthy, like
what is happening here, you know.
And then, um, you know.
Then I just came to accept thatI am.
When I learned I was cleartangent.
I learned that accidentally Iwas not looking for it at all,
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and so that experience for me Iwas like, okay, I'm done, I'm
done, I can't pretend thisanymore.
I can't hide, I can't diminishit.
Okay, I get the messageuniverse, you want me to own
this part of who I am.
I'm done trying to belittlethis.
Granddaughter Crow (14:23):
Can you tell us that story?
Would you share that story ofhow you accidentally found one
of your most powerful gifts,because I love this.
Eboni (14:32):
Yes, it's so wild, it just it blows me away so.
I had been going to a Reikimaster's house just for regular
spiritual events.
You know, I had a relationshipwith her and she would have all
kinds of people coming over toher house and I just loved her.
She was like a godmother to me,you know.
And so at one of these events Idecided to get a service of
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hers because she offered allthese different services, and so
I thought I scheduled, you know, something else to be done and
on the day we scheduled it maybetwo weeks before the actual
event, so the day of the event Ishow up at her house for it and
she's ready to attune me toReiki.
And at that time I knew whatReiki was but I really was not
interested in being like a Reikipractitioner or anything, and I
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think I had scheduled anappointment.
I thought I scheduled it tolike have my chakras cleared or
something, some other energywork.
So because I had so muchrespect for her and she was
prepared like she went throughwhatever she had to go through
to like to prepare, to prepareherself to share Reiki with me
in this way, I just didn't wantto stray from what she prepared
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for because I respected her somuch, you know.
So we walked from her house tothis park and we were out there
for a few hours.
She's praying over me, attuningme to Reiki, doing all the
things, and then this man comesover and he cause we're in a
public park and he's like, whatare you all doing?
And he sees that the papers sayReiki and he's like, oh, do you
want to practice on me?
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And the woman is like oh, youknow, the universe always sends
you exactly what you need whenyou need it.
So he lays down in the grassand I'm essentially doing what
she just taught me to do.
And I asked her if I could talk,because I was getting all this
information about his wife anddaughter.
And usually Reiki is a silentpractice.
You know, you don't talk, it'sjust like channeling the energy.
So she's like of course.
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So I started telling him whathis body was telling me, because
that's how I see my readings,like I'm telling you what your
body's telling me.
And then by the time I got tothe top of his head, because I
started the soles of his feetand I still do my sessions this
way to this day from the bottomof the feet to the top of the
head I had all this whole storyI had shared with him about his
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wife and daughter and he wassilent the entire time.
So when we're done he's like oh, you're exactly right, how do
you know all of that?
And I told him I have no ideabecause I've never done that in
my life until right now.
So I didn't even know thatclear tangent was a thing.
I didn't know the word and inthe early years of seeing
clients I would say it's likeReiki.
Granddaughter Crow (17:02):
But I'm talking that's how I would
describe it.
I love it Because I didn't knowhow else to describe it.
I love it.
Can people just a side note?
Can people book online with you?
Eboni (17:15):
Yeah, absolutely Get a session with you.
Yes, because right now I'm onlydoing remote sessions, which
sounds odd because it's touch,but I have this teddy bear.
I think it's so when I doremote sessions I use a teddy
bear and the teddy bear is likethe person's body for me.
I think it's just my brain'sway of understanding, like what
is happening, you know, but byrequest I do in-person sessions
(17:37):
too, but mostly they've been,they've been remote for years
now, since COVID I think.
Granddaughter Crow (17:41):
actually, yeah, I love it.
So you guys can book with Eboniat bodywayintuitioncom.
So I have another question foryou that I'm just curious, and
if I'm curious, I bet a listeneris too.
In your beautiful bio you referto yourself as a survivor and I
(18:08):
want for you, as a survivor, toshare as much as you wish.
But why do you what?
What is the story?
Eboni (18:17):
behind the word.
Oh goodness, it connects so muchto this work and to how I
understand intuition and whyI've called my company
Bodyweight Intuition.
I'm a sexual violence survivorand I repressed it for many
years and I've learned thatrepression is a common response
to sexual violence.
And so I, when it was like myconsciousness was allowing me to
(18:42):
acknowledge that somethinghorrible happened to me that I
had to deal with, allowing me toacknowledge that something
horrible happened to me that Ihad to deal with, it was all
showing up through my body.
I was doing yoga and I wascrying after yoga classes.
I was just releasing so muchthrough my body and it was just
giving me all these cues andsignals.
It was telling me so much.
And so that's kind of how I'vecome to understand intuition
(19:03):
through the body, because of myhealing journey.
That's how I healed.
It was through my body, it was.
It was me, my most intelligentpart of myself, speaking to me
through my body, and so that'show all of it like connects for
me and why I can I talk about itthrough the senses and through
the body.
Granddaughter Crow (19:20):
You know what is so beautiful about that.
Thank you for sharing that.
But what's so beautiful aboutthat is that a lot of people who
have gone through trauma,whatever type, will not want to
embody.
They don't want to go intotheir body because the trauma
(19:41):
response and it literally is theamygdala and there's a lot of
science behind that.
So it's extra that you wentthrough that and then were able
to re-embody.
Eboni (19:54):
Yeah, I know it's amazing .
I learned that there's a termcalled a natural conversation,
so the mind and the body arealways talking like 24 hours a
day.
Our mind and body are alwaystalking to each other and so I
was doing all these healingthings.
I mean this is over years, youknow.
I was depressed for two years,I retreated from my social
circle.
I mean there were days I stayedin bed like for a very long
(20:18):
time, like I went.
It wasn't like this pretty easything, you know, and all of that
was like me bringing that tolife, like me dealing with all
this stuff that I had held in mybody for so long, you know.
And and I had tried yoga, likeprobably 10 years before, and I
hated it and I was like I'mnever doing this again.
But but when I tried yoga thesecond time around, like I loved
(20:41):
the way it put me in my body,even though it made me cry, and
it was so upset, like I, becausesome part of me, whatever it,
was like ready to deal with thisstuff, you know.
So, yeah, it's it really is.
I'm just so grateful because Iwas doing, I was in so much
prayer and meditation andcrystal therapy and like all the
things, and so how I've learnedto understand it is that by
(21:03):
doing all these things, thesespiritual things, to support
myself, I created a strongerconversation between my mind and
my body.
Granddaughter Crow (21:13):
What do you call that again?
Eboni (21:14):
A natural conversation.
C-o-n-n-a-t-u-a-r-a-l.
Yeah, and I learned that termfrom Dr oh, what's his name?
Granddaughter Crow (21:29):
He's an Ivy League educated doctor.
Eboni (21:29):
We'll'll put it, we'll put it, we'll remember it.
Yeah, yeah, I can look it up.
The book is somewhere behind meI love it, I love it.
Granddaughter Crow (21:35):
You know, that's just speaks to the
resilience of your soul,absolutely, and I see that as a
(22:00):
guiding light, absolutely, whichis a whole journey in and of
itself.
But you can actually thenstrengthen and not just make
lemonade, but like the wholemeringue pie and all of these
things that you're doing.
It's just, it's, it's, it's,it's.
(22:20):
I don't, I'm not kind of at aloss for words, because that's
just survivor resilientresilient survivor.
If I could edit your bio, Iwould input resilient survivor,
because you didn't just survive,you are resilient.
Eboni (22:39):
Thank you so much and it's so funny that that word is
coming up because I have asecond book which is actually
the first book I wrote, but it'sthe second one that will be
coming out which is a memoir,and someone was reading my
memoir is actually the firstbook I wrote, but it's the
second one that will be comingout which is a memoir.
And someone was reading mymemoir and like the early parts
of it where I talk about mychildhood and the person said to
me oh you're so.
You're such a resilient child.
You know, this happened to meas an adult, but like this
(22:59):
resilient thing is in me, it'swho I am, you know.
Granddaughter Crow (23:03):
I love that, you know, ok, okay, so here's
another question.
Um, she said she was an openbook, so I'm going there.
Yeah, I am.
I heard.
Uh, you mentioned briefly atLlewellynCon 2025.
I'm going to put the link belowso you guys, I'm referencing it
, but I want you guys to be ableto watch Eboni Banks talk even
(23:26):
more in depth about this at theLlewellynCon 2025.
And it'll be the link forYouTube for Llewellyn Follow
Llewellyn.
But you briefly mentioned thatyou were raised in a religion
and I'm just like, ooh, let's gothere, because, because I was
too, I was raised by reverenceof the Christian faith.
Eboni (23:52):
Whoa.
Granddaughter Crow (23:52):
Who met in seminary school and I was,
whatever anointed to be, tocarry that torch.
But here's the crazy thing myfather's full blood Navajo.
So I have a long story.
But at the end of the day I seemy father as a medicine man who
(24:13):
did it in a way that was ableto appease Christianity and the
white body at that time, and sothat's kind of how I see it.
So I always relate and I knowthat we have a lot of people out
there who came from whetherit's Christianity or whatever,
no shame, you know, no, but somesort of a dogma or a dogma.
(24:36):
That was a little bit difficult.
Can you talk just briefly aboutyour childhood and how you know
, how you're?
Eboni Banks, writing booksabout intuition and touching,
doing Reiki with words and allof that.
Eboni (24:51):
Yeah, yes, yes, I was definitely raised in a strong
Christian family.
I'm African-American A lot ofAfrican-Americans are religious
just culturally, and soChristianity was my family's
religion and I went to Sundayschool, and all that as a child,
like for years.
You know, thing I appreciatemost about my Christian
(25:15):
upbringing is that it gave me anawareness of non-physical
presence.
You know, like I understoodthat this physical world is just
one aspect of reality, and soI'm grateful for that, because I
got that at a very young age.
Like that's how I understoodthe things they were telling me,
because I was like studying it.
I was like why is Jesus he and I?
(25:36):
I was, you know, I wasn't likeagreeable with what I was, I was
learning and, um, so I guess Idon't know.
I think my healing journey andjust who I am, my family is,
although very religious they are, I also have my great
grandmother at Palms for aliving and so no-transcript,
(26:25):
being in her living room inlines of people waiting to see
her.
So they also understood there'sthis other way of life, you
know.
Granddaughter Crow (26:34):
Yeah, I absolutely love that and you
know, it's kind of interestingbecause I actually I've heard of
so many people who were raisedin a religion, but I like the
way that you said it, because ofculture and that's what you do
and that part of the country oryou know, that's just what you
(26:56):
do and you know and I love itbecause, as it sounds like as a
child, you questioned and youwere curious and that, for me,
is a part of your resilience.
That is, the questioning andthe curiosity is like the
(27:17):
motivator toward, is a part ofhow you do resilience.
I'm not, I'm not trying to giveyou a read or nothing, I just
see no thank you for that.
Eboni (27:26):
I receive that.
Thank you.
That's so beautiful and I'vealways questioned when I was
little, when I was like reallylittle, I would wonder where I
would be if I didn't have a body.
This is what my little brainwas thinking you know, because I
was hearing all this stuff inchurch about like non-physical
life, and so I was just, likeyou know, trying to understand,
basically, you know.
Granddaughter Crow (27:46):
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
You know.
It also brings in that thatidea that you know as spiritual
people.
When we're talking to peoplewho and we understand physical
and non-physical, and weunderstand what intuition is and
we're getting to know moreabout that, or we understand,
(28:07):
you know, all of these beingsand deities that are Reiki and
energy and consciousness thatthere is sometimes when we speak
with people who aren't of thesame mind that we might just
jump over, that they areignoring that there is a
non-reality when really they maybe coming from reality or
(28:32):
non-physical, unseen world orwhatever, that they only
subscribe to the physical, seenworld.
I kind of doing what I do forso long sometimes I kind of
forget that.
You know what I mean.
Eboni (28:45):
Yes, that's such a good point.
And it blows me away too that Iguess I'd probably blow people
away too.
The way I process life right,we're all just trying to survive
, but it blows me away thatpeople process life with, like
only that acknowledgement,because it's it's only half of
the whole.
You know, like you're missingso much.
(29:07):
You're missing so much.
You know, we know we'respiritual beings, we're
spiritual beings first.
So how can you like not payattention to all that and
whatever that is for you and foryour people?
And you know so.
Granddaughter Crow (29:21):
It's just it's so wild Okay, back to
intuition, embodiment and all ofthat that we are using the
physical five senses for themost part, like my husband isn't
as the best at hearing and I'vegot really sharp ears.
I'm not the best with my sightand he has really great sight
(29:45):
and no shame, no blame, we makeone person.
When we get together, we canwalk down the street right but
it's really kind of interestingbecause we take a lot of those,
the touch and the taste and allof that.
We understand it because welive in that and you help us to
(30:23):
bridge that.
We have already been operatingwith like physical senses.
Now we can translate those intointuition and non unseen world.
Am I catching that right?
Because that makes a perfectbridge.
Eboni (30:33):
Yes, you are, because essentially what it is is, it is
an acknowledgement of ourintuition, bridges our
subconscious and our consciousmind, you know, because
intuition lives in oursubconscious mind and so all the
information, the cues and thethings that we're getting, it's
happening subconsciously.
Once we acknowledge it andactually get the information,
then it becomes conscious.
(30:54):
So the journey, the intuitivejourney, is all about bridging
the subconscious with theconscious, because we have all
this wisdom in our subconsciousmind and it is expressing itself
through our body in a millionways and all we have to do is
pay attention to it.
And it's also, you know, alittle bit about think.
You have to think differentlytoo, because, like touch, for
(31:15):
example, you know, when we feelthe sun in our arms and that
heat from the sun, like that's aform of touch, you know the
energy is touching our arms.
So it's like also a little, alittle bit, of shifting how you
think about the senses, becauseit doesn't show up in the same
way that touch does, you know,like when you're touching a
person, but it shows up througha similar process.
Granddaughter Crow (31:40):
Does that make sense?
Absolutely, are you?
I got to tell you listeners,Eboni has a book coming out and,
if you're seeing this in nextyear, she had a book coming out.
December 2025 called yourIntuitive Nudge.
I think it's a step-by-stepguide to connect with your
(32:02):
intuition.
Yes, so basically a lot of whatyou're saying.
Are they going to be able tofind that in the book?
So it's like if they are like,oh, this tastes really good,
both, claire, is it?
What is the type taste?
Eboni (32:17):
Claire Gustin.
Granddaughter Crow (32:18):
Yeah, this tastes really good, claire
Gustin style.
Like you're getting it.
Like this tastes good.
Then you can pick up her book.
It is ready for pre-order.
You can go to her websitebodywayintuitioncom, and her
publisher is Llewellyn.
Eboni (32:35):
Thank you.
So the book really focuses onthe Claire's are in there and it
really focuses on how you'rebeing, you know, because that's
the key.
That's the key.
It's not about what you'redoing.
You don't have to do anything,you don't have to go somewhere
and meditate for X amount ofhours, and you just have to
bring your awareness to yourselfto get all this information.
Granddaughter Crow (32:57):
So the book is really focused on how you're
being.
I love that my mic didn't cutout.
Eboni (33:04):
I'm just actually, you know, because so many people
think that you have to travel tothese sacred places or you have
to buy these things and youhave to do all these things.
You know outside of you inorder to access this.
But no, all the power, all theto do all these things.
You know outside of you inorder to access this.
But no, all the power, all thewisdom, all the intelligence, it
lives inside of you and youjust have to bring that.
You just have to bring yourawareness to that.
(33:26):
That is already there.
It's already there.
It's like dormant, you know.
You just have to bring yourawareness to that and then learn
how you are communicating withyou.
Granddaughter Crow (33:35):
One of the things that leads people towards
spirituality sometimes is toexperience life outside of their
life, to go up into the starsand everything, which I'm good
with, and yet and yet, and so welook for our intuition
(33:59):
somewhere, far, far away.
Yes, but really what I found isthat embodying it is actually
like the connector, theinterconnector between all of
that wisdom.
It's here, and so it's notabout up and out, it's about
(34:20):
going within, which I think is avery, very important part of
our spiritual path, irregardlessof how far along your path you
are the remembering of beingembodied.
Embodied.
Why is it so important to beembodied?
And do you have any thoughtsaround how sometimes people go
(34:41):
up and out and you're?
like oh get back in your body,you know.
Eboni (34:43):
Oh, why is it so important?
I mean, the body is just sowise.
It is so wise it holds everymemory from utero.
You know it is.
It has the entirety of our lifeexperience things our brain has
forgotten, like what we'verepressed, painful experiences
that we've repressed.
Our body has not forgottenthose experiences, even though
your brain might let you forgetit, because it was so hurtful,
(35:06):
your body hasn't forgotten it.
You know, it's just thisincredible tool and it can do so
much more for us than just helpus function and use the five
senses, because I think aboutthe five primary senses, as you
know, navigators for physicallife, like we need to eat and do
these things right.
We need all of them, but theclear senses are the things that
(35:26):
help us navigate non-physicallife, you know, and all of it is
processed through the body.
So the body is just it's so,it's it's.
It's incredible.
I mean, we know this alreadyabout our bodies, but we don't
think about it in this context,you know, and so, and the more
you are in these places becauseit's where all the wisdom lives
the more that you can have agreater experience to what
(35:49):
you're experiencing outside ofyou.
You know, like you have to.
You have to connect with allthat in you first, because
whatever drew you to whatever,whatever you're going to outside
of you originates inside of you.
Granddaughter Crow (36:11):
You know so the experience of that thing
outside of you is going to begreater when you, when you allow
yourself to not only say thatyou are a teacher, but that you
are an embodied teacher.
What does that mean?
I mean, I get an impression andI'm like let's do this, but
define embodied teacher andembodiments.
Eboni (36:33):
To me that just means that I've lived it.
You know, it's not somethingthat someone just like taught me
or I read in a book Like I haveactually lived everything that
I'm teaching, you know so thatyeah, to me that's how I'm able
to teach it, because I've livedit.
If I didn't live it, how couldI, how could I teach it?
Granddaughter Crow (36:56):
It's, it's really that whole thing where
the interconnectivity of you asan organism with your brain and
your body and your heart and youknow your spirit, being able to
find that balance and then, andhearing, and actually have that
internal dialogue.
Eboni (37:16):
Yes, yes, yes, it's happening all day long.
I mean, just like life iscommunicating, you know, to us
all day long, like we'recommunicating to ourselves all
day long, all day long.
Granddaughter Crow (37:25):
I love it If we just listen.
Is there any last words orfinal thing that I haven't asked
or we haven't because we'vegone into some great things in
the matter of 45 minutes?
Is there anything else that youwant to share with my listening
audience?
Eboni (37:43):
People to know that you know the higher level intuitive
experiences are something thateveryone is capable of.
It is not at all reserved toany kind of special person or
anything like that.
It is just.
I just want people to know thisis like a natural part of being
a human being.
Granddaughter Crow (38:01):
Thank you so much, Eboni, and thank you
listeners.
This is yet another episode ofBelief, being and Beyond.
You can like, subscribe, share,text the show if you're getting
it through the podcast.
And, Eboni, thank you so muchfor being on.
It has been a delight and I'dlove to have you on with your
books about the memoir and talka little bit more about that,
(38:24):
because you're just such aresilient individual.
I love it.
Thank you so much, love.
Ya See you on the Flippity Flip.
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