July 26, 2025 • 52 mins
Step into a world where crystals aren't just beautiful objects—they're conscious allies waiting to guide you on your spiritual journey. Jenny C Bell challenges mainstream crystal practices with a refreshing perspective: what if we approached crystals as sentient beings rather than tools to be programmed?
Drawing from indigenous wisdom and her decades of experience, Jenny introduces us to the concept of "stone people"—crystal beings with personalities, wisdom, and healing gifts they're eager to share. This paradigm shift transforms how we relate to these ancient earth treasures. Rather than simply collecting crystals for their metaphysical properties, we're invited to build genuine relationships with them, just as we would with a trusted friend or mentor.
The heart of Jenny's approach centers around six quartz varieties that serve as spirit guides: clear quartz, amethyst, rose quartz, smoky quartz, aventurine, and citrine. Each carries unique archetypal energy—from amethyst's connection to ancient Egyptian alchemy to smoky quartz's ability to bridge the worlds between living and ancestor realms. Through guided meditations, readers discover which crystal guide is specifically calling to work with them, often forming a lifetime spiritual partnership.
What makes this approach so powerful is its accessibility. You don't need to be clairvoyant to communicate with crystal guides. As Jenny explains, intuitive information comes through various channels—feelings, sounds, colors, or simply knowing. The key is trusting whatever arises and approaching the relationship with openness and respect. Simple practices like breathing onto your crystal, creating playlists inspired by its energy, or taking it on adventures help deepen the connection.
Ready to discover which crystal guide is waiting to connect with you? Listen to this amazing podcast.
Jenny C. Bell is the author Spirit Crystals: Discover Your Crystal Guide for Healing and Empowerment and Divergent Witchcraft: An Inclusive Approach to Making Magic (Spring 2026), She is also the founder of the Our Coven online community, host of the Cozy Coven Chats podcast, and a practicing witch. For three decades, Jenny has practiced yoga, meditation, read tarot cards and worked with the healing powers of crystals.
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GDC (00:16):
Welcome to Belief being and Beyond with your host,
granddaughter Crow, and I haveanother great person for you and
we are going to be talkingabout crystals spirit crystals.
I have Jenny C Bell, one of myfavorite guests.
Say hi to everybody, jenny.
Jenny (00:39):
Hi, thank you so much for having me on.
GDC (00:41):
Oh, absolutely.
I'm looking so forward togetting into your book, spirit
Crystals, and so, before we gothere, people, I want to give
you a quick introduction of whomy guest is.
So Jenny C Bell is the authorof Spirit Crystals.
Discover your Crystal Guidesfor Healing and Empowerment.
(01:03):
And trust me, I need healingand empowerment now more than
ever, and if you do, too, we'llget into how this will help you.
She also has DivergentWitchcraft, an inclusive
approach to making magic, comingout in spring of 2026, we're
going to have to have her backon the show, because that sounds
(01:26):
like a hot topic.
She also is a founder of OurCoven Online Community and the
host of the Coven Chats podcast,a practicing witch, and for
three decades, ginny haspracticed yoga, meditation,
reading tarot cards and workingwith the healing power of
crystals, and we get to benefitfrom all of what she has done
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and what she has known in thiswonderful book that was just
released.
Ginny, I am so excited aboutthis book, and the cover is
magnanimous.
When I got my copy in the mail,I'm like it just popped out at
me and I'm just like here it isin all its glory, and so the
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first thing that I want to talkabout is what makes your book
different than just a regular.
This is a stone and this is itsattributes.
You really go into.
This is your new friend, thisis your new community, this is
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your new spirit, guide andapproaching it from not just oh,
I use stones, but that youactually connect and work with
them as though they are yourguides, because they are and
they are alive.
I love that and we need more ofthat.
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So how did you come?
I know this is an obscurequestion, but how did you come
to understand, or did you alwaysknow, that it's more than just
an object with attributes?
It actually is a living being.
I have some beautiful stoneshere.
That one has a little picture.
It's got the raven on it andI'm sure I have a smoky quartz
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around her somewhere.
I've got my my selenite aroundhere.
So how did you come tounderstand that these crystals
are more than what we are givingthem credit for, or that we
were raised to think that theyactually are alive beings that
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can help us as guides?
Jenny (03:47):
Yeah, well, thank you, that's a perfect way to describe
it.
So I love the way you describedexactly how I see it.
It came intuitively, I think,from a young age when I started
working with crystals.
I considered them like friendsand allies, but I didn't really
see that in other books.
(04:07):
It was, you know, I startedbeing a witch in the 90s and it
was all about the programming ofthe crystal.
You know, it was like it alwayskind of made me feel, kind of
gave me the ick because Iwouldn't like program a cat.
I didn't feel like that was Idon't know like the way to
(04:28):
approach crystals, and so Iworked with them intuitively for
a long time and I alwaysthought of them as friends and
allies.
And then I started reading.
Two things happened.
I started, well, three, I gotReiki and I talked about this to
people all the time, like, evenif you're not going to do
anything with the Reiki, just goget Reiki master, like level
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one, and it's like it opens youup to so many things, like it's
just, you know, it's healing tothe chakras and it just I feel
like it opens you up to spiritand it's just, it's amazing.
And and so that happened.
And then I was like studying,like a mad woman, like it's
opened me up to, like justabsorbing a lot of information.
And I really got into an authornamed Jamie Sams, who has
(05:13):
passed away.
She's Cherokee, and I had neverread anybody talk about rocks
the way that she talked about it, like the way I always felt,
and she called them stone people, yeah, and she talks about how
they're people and they'rerecord keepers and they're
allies, and it was like, yes,this is something that I always
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like knew in my heart, but I hadnever read anywhere else, and
so that was really, um, itemboldened me.
It like made me feel like, okay, yeah, like I I haven't this.
This was true, like it's notjust true to me, but it was true
to other people, and it gotlost somewhere when we started
like programming the crystals,and so then I also started
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working with crystal skulls.
I just like I picked up one.
I just was like drawn to it.
It was a Lemurian, clear quartzcrystal skull, hand carved, and
I was like tiny, but I was likeI was already like connected.
I felt like there was a beingin there, started really
connecting with the spirit guidein there, and then at the same
time.
It was so weird.
(06:20):
I was in Kyle Gray's angel teamand he offered a one-time,
one-off course on crystal skullsand I had just bought mine
Perfect timing.
GDC (06:32):
That's how it works they call you and then they give you
a class so that you canunderstand the stone people, the
stone nation.
Absolutely, I love it.
Jenny (06:43):
Yeah.
So then I took his class and itwas.
It was along the lines of theJudy Hall book on crystal skulls
that's what I was alreadyreading and so.
But he had like his own littlekind of twists and you know kind
of ideas.
And it was just nice to be incommunity too with other people
who were interested and just seelike this is a whole community.
There's a whole like subcommunity of what are called
(07:04):
like skull keepers and peoplethat work with crystal skulls
and master carvers and it's likea whole thing.
There's a whole kind ofsituation.
Yes, yeah, and so then I wasworking with my guides and my
crystal skull guides and I waslooking for a new kind of
approach to crystals.
Like I'd already created aclass on Udemy and it was about
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using your intuition andconnecting with the essence of
the crystal.
Like I already had that.
I already felt that wassomething people needed to do.
I was doing it, I was teachingit, and then it was like one
step further was well, what ifthis crystal is your guide?
And then that kind of went fromthere.
GDC (07:45):
I absolutely love that and I think that it's brilliant and
I think that it is a wisdom thatmaybe we had and forgot or lost
and that you are helping tobring this wisdom back, because
it is the difference between Imean, it's actually the concept
of animism that everything isalive, everything is, you know,
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has a personality.
You know, and walking throughlife with that type of respect
is amazing to me because itshifts your worldview.
So you know, I know thatthere's, and I love all the
books out there about stones andcrystals.
I kind of call them the gatewayto your spirituality because
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they're grounding.
But I did also kind of like Iunderstand, like some courts,
that it is a recorder and all ofthat, but I also am like I
understand that we can maybetalk with them about what we're
looking for them to help us with, but not just go mind meld.
(08:54):
You're gonna do this and Itotally forgot about that aspect
until you you're bringing itforward with the stone people
and bringing them alive.
So what would be like thedifferences to you with bringing
the stones under?
Approaching a stone or acrystal from a position of
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programming it versusapproaching it as though it is
your guide, approaching it asthough it is your guide.
What changes in your magic orin the reader's magic when they
begin to switch their worldviewand go oh, yeah.
Jenny (09:35):
So I think the easiest way for people to understand
this is with herbs, becauseherbalists a lot of herbalists
already see the herbs as aspirit and as alive, as a guide.
Right, there's this belief, andnot every herbalists.
A lot of herbalists already seethe herbs as a spirit and as
alive, as a guide.
Right, there's this belief, andnot every herbalist.
But there's belief that youhave a person you're trying to
heal, you don't know what herbto give them.
You take a walk and the plantwill shake and it'll get your
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attention and I'll say it's me,you need my spirit, you need me
to help you and that's, I think,the best way for people to
understand.
It's like that's the approachof befriending the herb, versus.
Let me look in this book.
It says this is it?
I'm going to buy it deadalready at the store and throw
it in my tea and it should work.
It's like you know that's theprogramming.
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It's like I want it for thisthing, but we actually can't
control the crystal, the herb,the animal guide.
We can't control how theyaffect us or what part of
ourselves they affect us.
We just can't.
And so it's like even with likeI you know I take nettle.
Maybe I'm taking nettle herbfor hormone help but maybe it's
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starting to help my allergies,but I didn't even ask for it
that to do that.
You know, you just don't know.
And it's the same with crystals, especially like the.
All the crystal guides in thebook are clear court.
Are courts related, right,they're clear courts.
And then all of the friends ofclear courts, all the courts,
because courts, like you said,has that high energy, it's got a
high vibration, it's an, anamplifier.
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They're at a different, I think, personally they're at a
different frequency than otherrocks and stones.
But I work with all and I don'twant people to think, like you
know, I'm an elitist because Iwill work with stones in the on
a hike you know what I mean likenot, it doesn't even have to be
one I bought in a shop, so Ilove that and I do.
GDC (11:22):
I think that quartz it's it is, it's more of um I don't
(11:45):
know how to describe it exactly,but it's almost like it's an
easy it were going to be talkingabout some very important
things and I brought out a bowlof some quartz hold this so that
I can connect, and then we'llall put them back into the bowl
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so that our knowledge isrecorded and is solidified by
ancient, ancient, ancient,ancient guides and maybe bring
it a little bit more grounded.
So I've worked with them likethat and in your book.
I don't want to get ahead ofmyself, but I am excited because
in your book I don't want toget ahead of myself, but I am
excited because in your book yougive us exercises, meditations,
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rituals, spells on how to workwith them.
But the first part about it islike discovering them and
building a relationship which isso beautiful, like you would to
a friend or a guide.
Or you know people, like yousaid, people know about angel
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guides, or you know differenttypes of guides.
But what about crystal guides?
So how do you build, like ifyou are just sitting here and
you're like whoa, I neverthought about that, and you're
listening to this podcast.
What could somebody do today,going, okay, I need to treat my
you know, my quartz crystals ormy crystals or my stone people
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with more respect and I want toconnect with them.
Like, what could they do toconnect and build that, start
building that relationship withthem?
Jenny (13:23):
Yeah.
So with whatever is with you astone, a crystal, doesn't have
to be one of the spirit crystalsA quick cleanse.
So you know I always say thatI've been to actual mines.
So I was my geology clubtreasurer and I've seen, you
know, parts of hillsides blownup.
I've seen cyanide used to getgold Like.
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Like it's not.
Mining is not always like.
I just found this beautifulcrystal and here it's for you.
It's pretty aggressive and itcan be traumatic, I think, to
the crystals.
So, and you don't know whosehands have touched it.
So I like to give it a cleanse,and an easy cleanse, no matter
what kind of stone or crystal is.
(14:04):
Take it outside, put it on theground and get it in some direct
, indirect sunlight and say, youknow, thank you sunshine, thank
you mother earth for cleansingthis crystal and then having it
be clear, and then bring itinside and blow your breath onto
that crystal, because yourbreath is sacred, and so you can
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onto the crystal and say, likeI want to be your friend, like,
wake up friends and connect thatway, giving a little piece of
yourself with the breath, andthen a lot of times the crystal
will respond to that.
We do the same thing with likeyou can do that with seashells,
with you know, herbs, if you'reusing it for a spell.
Feathers if you work withfeathers, like your breath is
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connecting you now to thatobject.
GDC (14:50):
I love that and it's kind of like for me.
What I get a visual of is thatyou are around like a bunch of
classmates or colleagues, butyou don't really know them.
But this is like giving youpermission to go hi, I'm
granddaughter Crow and I wouldlike to get to know you.
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That breath in me, approachingand doing that.
It sounds like that's whatyou're.
You're giving them respect andyou're introducing yourself and
you're calling out an aspect ofthem that a lot of times they
don't get called out like that,so they're just like well, you
know, I'll do my magic for you,but it'd be really nice and how
(15:34):
much more it would be, insteadof us just being colleagues, for
us actually to be friends and Ican show you you know more
magic for healing andempowerment, right.
Jenny (15:47):
Yeah, I love that.
I love the colleague versusfriend analogy.
That's exactly.
That's perfect way to say it.
GDC (15:53):
Yeah, and it is.
It's so good, and I studyanimism a lot, in shamanism and
definitely in my next bookthat's going to be coming out in
2026 about shamanism.
This book is one that I amgoing to put in the recommended
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reading because of the way thatyou can build a friendship with
what one would consider thetools that you're working with.
They're actually beings thatknow everything, because, I mean
, how long have they been aroundand what type of wisdom do they
(16:36):
have?
Jenny (16:37):
Yep, absolutely yeah they're record keepers for sure.
Yeah, like you said, how youpassed around that bowl of
quartz and it's like it's goingto hold their record.
Yeah it, quartz runs throughoutthe earth.
It's so prevalent, it's in theveins, it's in a lot of ley
lines.
Like you know magical portalplaces, like it's there
recording everything and then wedig it up and you're just going
(17:00):
to like put it on your altar.
But maybe it has a lot ofthings to share with you.
GDC (17:11):
Yeah, I really like that.
So give us some examples ofwhat they can share with you.
I know that you outline likesix different, like you said,
from the quartz family stonesand connecting with them in
detail in your book.
What are different?
Like wisdoms that people wouldbe like almost shocked to know
that they would teach you orshow you.
Jenny (17:30):
Well, so I got the six that I have.
Those were chosen, those werechannels, so it wasn't like I at
random was like these six, itwas all channeled in an Akashic
Records recording that Irecorded.
And so what was interesting isI got like in that one channel
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message, I got the crystals, Igot sacred numbers to those
crystals, I got differentaspects of divinity that connect
to those crystals and herbs andplants that work with that
crystal.
It was like a lot ofinformation.
So a lot of the book was workedbackwards.
(18:11):
It was like Llewellyn's likeokay, you got to get your
resources.
It's like yes, because I can'tjust say the Akashic Records.
So it was just like, okay, nowwe're working backwards and
we're trying to figure out.
Okay, this wisdom was given tome.
Now I have to show how otherpeople agree with this wisdom.
And so what was most interestingto me is I got immediately that
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amethyst is connected toancient Egypt, right, and that
also connected to alchemy.
And I actually in my ownreading did not know that
alchemy was part of ancientEgypt.
I didn't know that like it hadany connection there because I
thought alchemy came from likeEurope.
I really did not know there wasany connection.
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And so then this research, I'mlike shocked.
I was shocked.
I was like whoa, like thisreally does have this connection
that I wasn't even consciouslyaware of, which showed that that
was correct information, right,like if it kept happening, like
these moments where I'd be like, oh, wow, yeah, that does make
sense.
And you know, and it was justlike the research would just
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back up what was given to me,which felt like a really
precious gift, because it's likeobviously they knew what they
were talking about.
GDC (19:26):
So I love that.
I mean, it's almost like yougot an introduction to the
council.
Yeah, that's how I see it.
Jenny (19:39):
I like that yeah and so what are?
GDC (19:43):
what are the six?
The six stones crystals.
What are the six crystals?
I use stone and crystalsynonymous, so sorry about that,
but what are the six crystalsbesides amethyst and quartz?
What are the other four?
Jenny (19:59):
And it's okay, because all crystals are stones, but not
all stones are crystals.
So it's okay to say, like, whenin doubt, use stone or rock,
because you don't, crystal hasto have a certain kind of like
scientific structure to beconsidered a crystal, so it's
totally fine.
But yeah, so we have amethystand clear quartz.
(20:20):
We have rose quartz, which isvery connected to, like, the
angelic realm and connectingwith, like, obviously, the heart
chakra and but I learned, likeworking with Rose Quartz, it's a
(20:42):
, I feel it's a crystal that'smore about self-love more than
anything else, more than like,trying to find your true love.
I see rose quartz used a lot inlove spells and I think that's
great, because you have to loveyourself in order to attract
someone that will love you too.
So keep doing that.
But yeah, I definitely see itthat way.
And then smoky quartz is reallyconnected with things like the
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unknown, like there's ameditation in there with the
smoky court section.
That is a connection to therainbow bridge, right To
crossing over and deciding ifyou want to connect with the
other side of people who havepassed away or ancestors, and so
the smoky courts really isabout that, is about the other
side, is about the mediumship.
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And then aventurine.
I used that one becauseoriginally my guide said green
quartz and I'm like as far as Iknow that's not a thing but it
is.
It's called prazialite, somepeople call it green quartz, but
it's actually pretty hard tofind.
So I went back into likemeditation.
I was like can we useAventurine, cause it's uh, it is
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in the quartz family, it'sgreen, it's much more prevalent
and I do have both.
Now I was able to findPraviolite and Aventurine and
really the energy to me it's thesame.
And then um, and that one isconnected with inner wisdom.
So really tapping into what Icall the sage, which is really
like your intuition, your innerwisdom.
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And then the last one iscitrine, which is another one
that some people like when yougo, if you're going to buy
citrine, it's actually verylight in color and we a lot of
what's sold is heat treated,amethyst and kind of looks like
root beer.
So that's just something forpeople to keep in mind.
But that one is connected withmanifesting and it helps unlock
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the blocks to being like in yourreal power so that you can
actually manifest.
GDC (22:36):
I absolutely love that and so would you say that people.
How could people decide whichone to get when they're working
with the book?
Or do you recommend gettingthem all, or are they drawn to
one?
Like, how do they choose whichone to work with?
Jenny (22:57):
So in the book there's a series of meditations that
guide you to decide to see whoyour spirit crystal is, and so
the first meditation is aboutwell, there's like a couple
meditations prior to, andthere's some tips.
So people are I use the wordmeditation if people get nervous
there are some tips for thosepeople and and it's okay to do
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the meditation more than oncelike I tell them that to their
short, you can just record yourvoice, read what I wrote, record
it, and then there's a seriesof three meditations and at the
end your crystals revealed toyou.
And originally this was a class.
So I've done this class liveand then I did it online and
then it was a Udemy class andnow it's a book and I'm getting
(23:40):
feedback from people reading thebook saying it's it works just
as well as a book, which wasgood to know Because you know,
sometimes it's easier to do ameditation like with a voice.
But it is going to be an audiobook, which I also think will
really help people with themeditation aspect that's being
worked on right now.
So I'm not sure when that comesout yet, but that'll, I think,
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be wonderful for people who arelike I don't want to record my
voice reading a meditation.
GDC (24:05):
Hey, yeah, no, I absolutely love it and going into that
meditation and it makes it.
It makes it more like insteadof it makes it like Jenny C Bell
is introducing us to thecouncil and they will come
forward and tell us which one weconnect with.
(24:27):
Do you connect with more thanone, or is it generally like one
?
Or am I getting too technical?
Like, how many friends do youget?
You know how many?
How many guides can you handle?
Like, how do you perceiveworking with one or more than
one?
Jenny (24:43):
I have had in all the classes I've done, I've only had
like maybe one or two peoplereally connect, obviously, to
two, but most people connectonly with one, and to me they're
lifetime guides.
But that doesn't mean you can'twork with the other five,
because they are related.
But it's a very I would sayit's a very minimalist approach.
(25:06):
Like you know, anti-socialmedia needing 500 crystals on
your altar and I'm saying likeyou just need one and you just
be cool with the one and you canwork with that one for your
whole life.
But yeah, there are someactivities in the book where if
you want to have all six, youcan, and there's like some ways
that you can use them togetherto make certain kind of magic
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and ritual and crystal grids andthings like that.
But you can just work with theone and keep it simple too.
GDC (25:32):
Love it.
I'm going to in my the way thatI do things.
I'm going to ask you a reallyweird question.
I used to have and I gifted it,but I used to have a rose
quartz and I had it set up in myoffice where I would see people
and do sessions and readingsand healings and all of that.
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And in connecting with thisstone, I just called her Sarah.
This is Sarah.
And sometimes when I would seesomebody who was really
emotionally distraught all of asudden from the side of my eye,
I'd feel like Sarah was glowingand I'd go hold on, would you
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like a hug from Sarah, would youlike to hold Sarah?
And they would hold her andthey would feel more peace.
And I worked with her for atleast a decade until I think
there was something thathappened and I was like, oh,
sarah now belongs to this person, and so I handed Sarah to
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another person.
But my point is why do youthink I called her Sarah?
Jenny (26:56):
You know.
So I was talking about crystalskulls earlier and people.
You can go on these what arecalled rehoming groups, which is
exactly like what you did, likepeople they do.
There is like a monetaryexchange, but it's a rehoming
and the skull always has a nameand it's like the guide that
inhabits that crystal and peoplegive them and trade them and
I've seen every name.
I mean like some of them soundlike otherworldly, like a name
you never heard of, but some ofthem are simple, like Sarah.
I have a crystal skull that'sAlana, that's just the name she
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gave me and I'm like OK, girl,like you're Alana.
GDC (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, for me it makes it.
(28:09):
It really cuts to theunderstanding that this is your
friend, your guide, healing andempowerment.
So, like, can you give us anexample?
So now we've met the stones,can you give us an example of
you know, I know you have a lotof meditations and exercises and
rituals and spells which I lovePut us in action, you know, get
us to go in action.
The question is is what?
How does that connection, howdo you build that connection
beyond?
I don't even know what I'masking.
It's Mercury retrograde.
I'm really like just so excitedabout oh, we got new friends.
How do we play?
Jenny (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good question.
So each crystal is attached toan archetype and that was given
to me.
I sat with each crystal, whichis why I had to find a piece of
prazialite.
I'm like why did you guys giveme a weird one?
So, anyway, I sat with each oneand that's how I determined a
lot of the information beyondwhat I was originally given.
So it's sit and be like rosequartz, like lay in meditation,
keep rose quartz with me for acouple of weeks and like that's
(28:55):
when I'm writing the chapter andshe's telling me put this in
here that I'm connected to this,Like what about this?
And I felt really heavilyguided, I would say, when I
wrote this book and so, yeah,that's so.
Basically, like how do you whatthe question was like, how to
play right.
So with the archetype, once youkind of determine like this is
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my crystals, my archetype.
One of the first suggestions Ihad was to make a playlist based
off of your archetype.
I love this.
Based off of your archetype.
I love this, yeah, so just likethat's playing and having fun,
and I do.
If people go to my website, Ihave a Spirit Crystals portal
page and I do have playlists foreach one of the archetypes, but
(29:38):
I definitely encourage peopleto make their own, but making a
collage of the archetype, justkeeping the crystal with you,
and it doesn't like I talkedabout, it doesn't have to be
this big, showy piece, justhaving it like take it in the
shower, take it on a ride, takeit.
I like to take my crystals to astream and like let them have
like a little stream time andlike water.
(29:59):
I'm weird for sure, Um, but youknow, take them like, have them
next to you while you sleep,Say hey, I want to meet you in
my dreams.
Like come to me, there's.
It's just an invitation, likean open invitation, to like
let's connect, let's hang out,let's play like you would with a
new friend or a pet or whatever.
GDC (30:30):
I absolutely love that.
So, people, jenny C BellcomliterallyN-N-Y the letter C bell
B-E-L-L dot com, where you canfind not only how to get this
book, so that you can get toknow your spirit crystal, but,
moreover, find all of theselittle gifts and playlists which
I am definitely going to bechecking out, definitely going
to be checking out because atthis point, you know, jenny, I,
I, my main jive is spiritualjive, is shamanism, and it's how
(30:55):
I think, it's how I approachthe world, it's how I live and
all of that.
And so when I'm talking with youabout this, I'm like this is
how I kind of help people tounderstand their animal spirit
guide and I take them through aguided meditation and a lot of
times people will just come upto me and go well, which one is
mine?
(31:15):
And I'm just like well, youknow, I can see that you act
like a bird, I can see you actlike a wolf.
I can see that you haveattributes like independence
like a cat, a wolf, I can seethat you have attributes like
independence, like a cat.
But, in truth, why, ask me, whynot go into meditation and
start building your ownrelationship?
I'm not your dating coach.
Jenny (31:37):
I like that, yeah, cut out, just cut out the middleman
or middle woman, like that'swhat my book's about, that's why
it's empowerment, it.
It's like I do offer a servicewhere I can find your spirit
pistol for you, but I wouldrather you go through the
process, the journey, and findit like it's definitely so
rewarding.
(31:58):
I remember like the first, thefirst guide that I ever got to
connect with was an animal guideand it was in this like guided
meditation and um, it didn't gowell for me.
Okay, it was.
I was like I go in, I'm like 19,I'm like I'm a cat, it's
obviously gonna be like mountainlion, a cougar, like I love
(32:18):
cats, the cats, and I go inthere and the instructor was
like you were really closed offbecause I didn't see anything.
We go and and like there's likethis whole forest thing, and
then you go to like this hole inthe ground and your animals
just come out and I saw nothingbut a paw and I was like why is
that?
You know, I was like reallydisappointed and you know young
and whatever, and they're likeyou just do it at home on your
(32:40):
own a couple times and you haveto be open because you're not
open.
It's very clear that you thinkyou already know what your
animal is, and so I make a bigthing in the book about, like,
just be open to the crystal,because you just don't know
who's there for you, who's goingto guide you, and in my case it
was a wolf, not a cat.
GDC (32:59):
Love it and I can see both attributes, I mean from my end.
You very much hold that catpresence.
But then also in talking to youI'm like, oh yeah, you're
definitely a wolf, but I wouldkind of this is what I would say
that you come from cat peoplebut you are the spirit of the
(33:20):
wolf Because you hold both.
You know like you're comingfrom the cat clan but your role
is the wolf in the cat clan.
That's just me being having fun.
Jenny (33:30):
No, but no, you're right .
Can I tell you why that's sofunny?
Because my mom.
My mom and my sister are Leos,my daughter's a Leo son, my
son's a Leo rising.
I really do come from catpeople.
GDC (33:42):
You come from cat people and we're sitting here recording
this under the new moon in Leo,which is another cat people.
I love it.
So you are the wolf amongst thecat people.
Yeah, so maybe you have dualcitizenship.
Jenny (34:00):
Maybe I do yeah.
GDC (34:03):
I love that, I love it, I love it.
So, when you are here's anotherstrange question that comes to
my mind as I'm listening to this, as though I've never read this
book for the audience Like, howdo you hear the stones then?
Like, do you have to beclairaudient?
(34:24):
Like do they talk to you?
Or like do they send youpictures or is there numbers?
Or how do you communicate?
What are the, I guess, mostcommon ways that they
communicate back to you?
Jenny (34:40):
Yeah, so in the book, before we get started, I go over
the clairsenses.
So you know, people all knowclairvoyant, like everybody
knows that one and that's, youknow, clear seeing.
But very few people have thatand in fact some people have
(35:01):
like an inability to envision intheir mind and so I talk about
all the different clear sensesand like how they can come
through and there's some chakrameditations and kind of clearing
before we even get into,because that's kind of the way
to open yourself up to intuitionand for some, I feel like most,
for most people, they have.
I feel everybody has intuitionand it comes in different ways
and but a lot of people doubt it.
(35:25):
And so I think a big thing inthe meditations like just trust.
Just trust whatever comesthrough, if it's a color, if
it's a sound, if it's a symbol,it's you know and just trust
that that's the way it'scommunicating with you and it
can change.
Like you know, some peoplestart off one way, like I
definitely consider myself clearaudience, but the more I read
(35:46):
tarot, the more imagery comes infor people and I'll say I see
this and this and this for youand oh yeah, that's exactly
right, you know, and so that itcan change over time.
I think the more spiritual workwe do, it opens us up more.
But yeah, I think you know andjust trust it.
GDC (36:04):
You just have to trust the initial no-transcript and so you
help us to break through.
(36:25):
Yeah, I absolutely love thisand I do want to shift over to
your divergent, you know,witchcrafty book, or I forgot
the title.
But before we do I would.
I just have another question.
Another question there.
(36:51):
With the crystal skulls in theplace that I come from, more you
know, native in culture andstuff, those to me appear to be
also cosmic energy coming in,not just angel guides, not to
say that that's all, but moreeven alien or extraterrestrial.
(37:11):
What do you think about that?
Jenny (37:13):
Am I like way off, or no way, you're definitely not way
off.
There's not a whole lot of bookson crystal skulls and I have
read, I think, most of them.
I have the metaphysical libraryhere down the street from me and
I read, I've watched videos,I've tried to kind of, and then
the best thing for me was justconnect with them myself and
(37:34):
kind of learn.
But you know, my Oracle deckthat I have is called the cosmic
creator, because I do believethat there's this cosmic
connection, like, yes, we haveMother Earth and Father Sky and
Grandmother Moon and GrandfatherSun, but I also think around
all of this is some kind ofuniversal cosmic creation, and
(37:55):
so is it extraterrestrial, is italien?
I don't know, and I also feellike it doesn't matter because
it's here, and you know, we allare made of stardust, like we
all have this kind of likecosmic connection, for sure.
And so there's differentbeliefs on the different skulls
and there are people that carvethe skulls in a way that looks
(38:17):
alien.
They call them like a travelerand they look like a galactic
traveler I've seen them, yepyeah, so I, I personally, I just
like this.
I guess it's like a kind of aBuddhist perspective.
You know, like I don't ask whythe Big Bang, I just accept the
Big Bang.
You know like it's, it happened, it's here, like I don't need
(38:39):
to know why we're here or howyou know.
And so, with Crystal Skulls, Ithink the best explanation again
comes from Jamie Sams, whotalked about in her book 13
Original Clan Mothers, that whenthe 13 Original Clan Mothers
disappeared, all that was leftwere 13 perfect, clear quartz
skulls.
Talked about 13 crystal skullsand then that the Mitchell
(39:10):
Hedges skull being like the onlyone that supposedly has been
found and that there's the other12 either still hidden or being
kept and whatever.
And so it's a very I don't know.
It's interesting and it's likeI think at one point we did know
, you know right, I agree withyou.
GDC (39:25):
I absolutely love that because my father used to say we
talk so intelligently about allof our confusions, but when you
know what you know, just knowwhat you know, just accept it
and be where you are with the,the cosmic energy and everything
(39:50):
.
Well, I love, I love, I love, Ilove that you brought this book
um, published by luella, andyou guys pick up yours spirit
crystals by jenny seabell itjust came out, discovering your
Crystal Guides for Healing andEmpowerment.
Okay, so let's do a littleprelude, like okay, you've got
(40:13):
another book in the works aboutdivergent witchcraft.
How much do we get to know?
Because I don't want spoileralerts, but I am so curious
because yeah, I am so curiousbecause, yeah, yeah.
Jenny (40:29):
So when I originally started writing, I wanted to
write a book that was anintroduction to witchcraft, but
not like one we'd seen before,cause there's a lot Like.
I remember when I used to getmy books at borders back in the
nineties.
Again, it was like every bookwas an introduction book and I'd
be like, where's the level twobook?
(40:50):
Like I'm ready, I'm introduced,give me the next thing.
And so I wanted to write anintroduction book that was very
inclusive for all genders,because a lot of times we get
very the older, especially likeWiccan books.
It's very like gendered, likehere's the feminine and here's
(41:10):
the masculine and the moon's awoman and if you're a dude, good
luck.
Like you can't connect Rightand it's very binary, it's very
old fashioned.
And then also I ended upworking, just I think like
attracts light with a lot ofneurodivergent baby witches.
Just I think like attractslight with a lot of
(41:31):
neurodivergent baby witches andneurodivergent people ask such
deep questions.
It's like they don't want thejust give me the surface answer,
like they want the deep dive,give me all the information.
It's a different way of theyhave different way of looking at
things and viewing things.
And so I wanted to write a book,my version of like how I would
teach introduction and towitchcraft to people like in a
(41:55):
more inclusive approach, and sothat's Divergent Witchcraft.
That's the whole point of thebook.
Is anybody, like anybody canlearn from it for sure, because
when you like I was a schoolteacher and when you teach to
like you know any kind ofinclusivity, everybody can
understand it better.
You know what I mean.
Not just the ones who quoteneed it, but, like everybody
(42:19):
learns better that way.
And so it's another book withlike a lot of exercises and a
lot of meditations, a lot ofjournaling, pausing I can't help
but be a teacher like I, reallyand so it's going to it's, and
I think it's going to be goodbecause it's doing things, um,
in a new way, like looking atthe moon in a new way, looking
at, uh, writing spells in a newway, and that's another thing I
(42:43):
feel has been missing from theworld of witchcraft books is
there's like not a lot of likehow do I create my own spell?
GDC (42:51):
Oh, my, of course, way to point out the obvious.
I never even thought about that.
Jenny (42:58):
It's a lot of like here's spells and here's
correspondences.
But if you're new or you lookat this list of correspondences,
it's like I don't know what todo with this.
You're new, or you look atthose lists of correspondences
and it's like I don't know whatto do with this.
GDC (43:09):
Yeah, oh, I love that.
I absolutely love that, and I'mlooking forward to seeing that
book out there, because I thinkthat that's the inclusivity, and
the neurodivergent is probablya lot more common than we think,
and I absolutely love lookingand learning from different
(43:30):
places.
I mean, maybe I'mneurodivergent and I don't know,
because I'm a Gen X and wedidn't do that back then.
You know, maybe, maybe I needto take some tests, because I
too.
People ask oddball questionsand see the world in a very
different way, which is why youguys follow me and watch the
show, right, right, right.
So, jenny, I'm so excited aboutthat.
(43:53):
So, of course, jennycbellcomand you have I know you're on
Instagram with our oven and Ifollow you daily because you
post such great things.
Where can we find?
Where can we find that?
What is it?
Is it our coven on?
Jenny (44:14):
Instagram.
It's our coven community, okay.
GDC (44:17):
Our coven community.
You guys have to follow,because Ginny really does.
I mean I'll just wake up in themorning, I do my little
meditation, I have my coffee,I'm set for the day and I go in
there and there's Jenny lookingat me from her backyard or
wherever going happy new moon.
(44:39):
And Leo, what rituals are yougoing to do to celebrate and
connect?
And it's just a reallywonderful gathering place.
And then you have the onlinecommunity as well.
Can you just share a little bitabout whatever you want with
the online community, because Iknow a lot of people and they
even sometimes comment and sayI'm here in the South, there is
(45:02):
nobody around.
I want a community that I canparticipate in.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour community online.
Jenny (45:13):
Yeah, it's called Our Coven and it's a mighty network
which is a private social media.
So it's not like Patreon, whichis the would be more focused on
me.
It's a real like community andit's it does cost to join.
It's $22 a month, and so youpay that $22 and you can decide
(45:34):
yes, I like it, I want to committo the whole year which would
be cheaper to do that or no.
It was a good trial and I'mgood now, but we basically
strive to do a live every monthand it's up to the community.
So they pretty much drive likewhat they want to learn about.
This year We've coveredspiritual protection.
We've covered connecting withland spirits.
(45:56):
We've done a lot on crystals inpreparation for reading spirit
crystals.
We have a book club and then Ithink the best thing is a huge
library of like anything youcould ever want to ask, like
crystals, akashic Records,ancestors, goddesses, elements,
candles.
(46:16):
You know it's like all thisstuff.
And then I'm there and I checkin every day and I try to.
I try to get back to everybodyin at least 48 hours.
So if someone's new and theyhave a question, I try to give a
very thoughtful answer.
They really drive the contentand so it's a community and we
do a card reading exchanges.
Um, I do every every month thebeginning of the month I'll do
(46:37):
like a pick a card reading andkind of talk about the energy of
the month for everybody.
And yeah, it's just really cozy.
It's been like they've been sosupportive of the book.
It's been really sweet.
They take selfies when it comesin the mail and they show me
like the book and it's likereally it's a place of kindness,
because a lot of the Internetis not.
GDC (47:03):
I love it and people just need to go to JennyCBellcom and
they can find more informationabout our coven and that's a
wonderful place, you know, to beable to go.
It's a safe haven and $22 tostart to check it out for one
month is a master number.
(47:23):
It's just a beautiful thing andit supports.
It's kind of like, you know,when you go to church to pay
your tithes.
It's giving back and have andbuilding a relationship with.
So, yeah, I'm really excitedabout about that and I love
following you on on Instagrambecause it's you make people
(47:43):
think you ask them questionsthat you literally want to hear
what they have to say versuswell, this is the test.
Do you know which stone I'mthinking of?
You know it's more of a, whichI love those two, don't get me
wrong but you're more of a.
How are you going to practicetoday?
And so, yeah, you guys, checkout Jenny C Bell, ginnycbellcom.
(48:08):
Please pick up her bookpublished by Llewellyn, spirit
Crystals.
It is absolutely phenomenal.
It literally is not justanother book on crystals, it is
a book about spirit guides inthe crystal nation period.
(48:31):
Stamp of approval I have it.
I actually wrote a little blurband it ends up in the book and
you know what's so funny.
Can I tell you something funny,jenny?
I wrote this blurb and I sentit to you because I, you know, I
reviewed the book and I'm like,oh, this is awesome, I really
want to say something about it.
And then I forgot about that.
(48:53):
And then one day I get thisbook in the mail and I'm like,
holy moly, this is Jenny's book.
And oh, my goodness, it's sogorgeous.
And I took a picture and I sentit to you.
I'm like, look, no-transcript,it's a blurb, but I was just so
(49:37):
excited about the book.
Hey, is there anything thatcomes to you that you want to
share that we haven't covered,about spirit crystals or any,
anything else that you're doing?
Jenny (49:51):
um, no, I would just say that, uh well, thank you for
having me on, obviously, butyeah, this isn't.
It's not a book.
That is like the end all deal,like it's not an encyclopedia of
crystals, it's like a.
It's a gateway to a journey.
I would say it's a journey andso that's.
I think, more than anything,like the mindset like it's like,
(50:15):
okay, I don't really needanother crystal book, yeah, but
maybe you need a journey book.
Maybe you feel like it's timeto get a crystal and let it take
you on a journey and do all thehealing things and see where
you end up.
Because for me, healing is alifelong thing and we are
constantly cycling throughdifferent types of healing and
(50:35):
we need different ways of seeingthings.
We need to hear certain thingslike 10 times sometimes before
it really sinks in, and sothat's what it's really about.
It's more like that healingjourney than, okay, I need to go
get these crystals and workwith them.
It's like, no, it's abouttaking care of you.
It's really like a strong,self-care, self-nourishment book
.
GDC (50:55):
I love it with one of the most ancient, if not the most
ancient nations, the StoneNation, and the stone people who
have seen it all.
They have seen it all wereforged, have seen it all were
forged under intense pressureand mined traumatically.
So get the book, get yourcrystals, take them and play in
(51:16):
the stream and talk to them andintroduce yourself to get to
know them and they will respond.
Jenny, thank you so much forbeing on the show.
I really appreciate you a lot.
I always love talking to JennySeabell.
She's been on my show, I'vebeen on hers, it's been and will
continue to do so.
(51:36):
So anyway, thank you people,thank you, thank you.
Thank you listeners, pleaselike, subscribe and share with
those rock hounds that you knowthat need a little boost to go
whoa, these are alive, they'rereally, they have a personality
and they can come and talk to meand be empowered and your
(51:59):
healing empowerment journey.
I love it, I love it and solove you guys.
Thank you once again and wewill see you on the flippity
flip.
Welcome to Belief being and Beyond with your host,
granddaughter Crow, and I haveanother great person for you and
we are going to be talkingabout crystals spirit crystals.
I have Jenny C Bell, one of myfavorite guests.
Say hi to everybody, jenny.
Jenny (00:39):
Hi, thank you so much for having me on.
GDC (00:41):
Oh, absolutely.
I'm looking so forward togetting into your book, spirit
Crystals, and so, before we gothere, people, I want to give
you a quick introduction of whomy guest is.
So Jenny C Bell is the authorof Spirit Crystals.
Discover your Crystal Guidesfor Healing and Empowerment.
(01:03):
And trust me, I need healingand empowerment now more than
ever, and if you do, too, we'llget into how this will help you.
She also has DivergentWitchcraft, an inclusive
approach to making magic, comingout in spring of 2026, we're
going to have to have her backon the show, because that sounds
(01:26):
like a hot topic.
She also is a founder of OurCoven Online Community and the
host of the Coven Chats podcast,a practicing witch, and for
three decades, ginny haspracticed yoga, meditation,
reading tarot cards and workingwith the healing power of
crystals, and we get to benefitfrom all of what she has done
(01:51):
and what she has known in thiswonderful book that was just
released.
Ginny, I am so excited aboutthis book, and the cover is
magnanimous.
When I got my copy in the mail,I'm like it just popped out at
me and I'm just like here it isin all its glory, and so the
(02:15):
first thing that I want to talkabout is what makes your book
different than just a regular.
This is a stone and this is itsattributes.
You really go into.
This is your new friend, thisis your new community, this is
(02:37):
your new spirit, guide andapproaching it from not just oh,
I use stones, but that youactually connect and work with
them as though they are yourguides, because they are and
they are alive.
I love that and we need more ofthat.
(02:59):
So how did you come?
I know this is an obscurequestion, but how did you come
to understand, or did you alwaysknow, that it's more than just
an object with attributes?
It actually is a living being.
I have some beautiful stoneshere.
That one has a little picture.
It's got the raven on it andI'm sure I have a smoky quartz
(03:23):
around her somewhere.
I've got my my selenite aroundhere.
So how did you come tounderstand that these crystals
are more than what we are givingthem credit for, or that we
were raised to think that theyactually are alive beings that
(03:44):
can help us as guides?
Jenny (03:47):
Yeah, well, thank you, that's a perfect way to describe
it.
So I love the way you describedexactly how I see it.
It came intuitively, I think,from a young age when I started
working with crystals.
I considered them like friendsand allies, but I didn't really
see that in other books.
(04:07):
It was, you know, I startedbeing a witch in the 90s and it
was all about the programming ofthe crystal.
You know, it was like it alwayskind of made me feel, kind of
gave me the ick because Iwouldn't like program a cat.
I didn't feel like that was Idon't know like the way to
(04:28):
approach crystals, and so Iworked with them intuitively for
a long time and I alwaysthought of them as friends and
allies.
And then I started reading.
Two things happened.
I started, well, three, I gotReiki and I talked about this to
people all the time, like, evenif you're not going to do
anything with the Reiki, just goget Reiki master, like level
(04:50):
one, and it's like it opens youup to so many things, like it's
just, you know, it's healing tothe chakras and it just I feel
like it opens you up to spiritand it's just, it's amazing.
And and so that happened.
And then I was like studying,like a mad woman, like it's
opened me up to, like justabsorbing a lot of information.
And I really got into an authornamed Jamie Sams, who has
(05:13):
passed away.
She's Cherokee, and I had neverread anybody talk about rocks
the way that she talked about it, like the way I always felt,
and she called them stone people, yeah, and she talks about how
they're people and they'rerecord keepers and they're
allies, and it was like, yes,this is something that I always
(05:35):
like knew in my heart, but I hadnever read anywhere else, and
so that was really, um, itemboldened me.
It like made me feel like, okay, yeah, like I I haven't this.
This was true, like it's notjust true to me, but it was true
to other people, and it gotlost somewhere when we started
like programming the crystals,and so then I also started
(06:00):
working with crystal skulls.
I just like I picked up one.
I just was like drawn to it.
It was a Lemurian, clear quartzcrystal skull, hand carved, and
I was like tiny, but I was likeI was already like connected.
I felt like there was a beingin there, started really
connecting with the spirit guidein there, and then at the same
time.
It was so weird.
(06:20):
I was in Kyle Gray's angel teamand he offered a one-time,
one-off course on crystal skullsand I had just bought mine
Perfect timing.
GDC (06:32):
That's how it works they call you and then they give you
a class so that you canunderstand the stone people, the
stone nation.
Absolutely, I love it.
Jenny (06:43):
Yeah.
So then I took his class and itwas.
It was along the lines of theJudy Hall book on crystal skulls
that's what I was alreadyreading and so.
But he had like his own littlekind of twists and you know kind
of ideas.
And it was just nice to be incommunity too with other people
who were interested and just seelike this is a whole community.
There's a whole like subcommunity of what are called
(07:04):
like skull keepers and peoplethat work with crystal skulls
and master carvers and it's likea whole thing.
There's a whole kind ofsituation.
Yes, yeah, and so then I wasworking with my guides and my
crystal skull guides and I waslooking for a new kind of
approach to crystals.
Like I'd already created aclass on Udemy and it was about
(07:25):
using your intuition andconnecting with the essence of
the crystal.
Like I already had that.
I already felt that wassomething people needed to do.
I was doing it, I was teachingit, and then it was like one
step further was well, what ifthis crystal is your guide?
And then that kind of went fromthere.
GDC (07:45):
I absolutely love that and I think that it's brilliant and
I think that it is a wisdom thatmaybe we had and forgot or lost
and that you are helping tobring this wisdom back, because
it is the difference between Imean, it's actually the concept
of animism that everything isalive, everything is, you know,
(08:09):
has a personality.
You know, and walking throughlife with that type of respect
is amazing to me because itshifts your worldview.
So you know, I know thatthere's, and I love all the
books out there about stones andcrystals.
I kind of call them the gatewayto your spirituality because
(08:32):
they're grounding.
But I did also kind of like Iunderstand, like some courts,
that it is a recorder and all ofthat, but I also am like I
understand that we can maybetalk with them about what we're
looking for them to help us with, but not just go mind meld.
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You're gonna do this and Itotally forgot about that aspect
until you you're bringing itforward with the stone people
and bringing them alive.
So what would be like thedifferences to you with bringing
the stones under?
Approaching a stone or acrystal from a position of
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programming it versusapproaching it as though it is
your guide, approaching it asthough it is your guide.
What changes in your magic orin the reader's magic when they
begin to switch their worldviewand go oh, yeah.
Jenny (09:35):
So I think the easiest way for people to understand
this is with herbs, becauseherbalists a lot of herbalists
already see the herbs as aspirit and as alive, as a guide.
Right, there's this belief, andnot every herbalists.
A lot of herbalists already seethe herbs as a spirit and as
alive, as a guide.
Right, there's this belief, andnot every herbalist.
But there's belief that youhave a person you're trying to
heal, you don't know what herbto give them.
You take a walk and the plantwill shake and it'll get your
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attention and I'll say it's me,you need my spirit, you need me
to help you and that's, I think,the best way for people to
understand.
It's like that's the approachof befriending the herb, versus.
Let me look in this book.
It says this is it?
I'm going to buy it deadalready at the store and throw
it in my tea and it should work.
It's like you know that's theprogramming.
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It's like I want it for thisthing, but we actually can't
control the crystal, the herb,the animal guide.
We can't control how theyaffect us or what part of
ourselves they affect us.
We just can't.
And so it's like even with likeI you know I take nettle.
Maybe I'm taking nettle herbfor hormone help but maybe it's
(10:42):
starting to help my allergies,but I didn't even ask for it
that to do that.
You know, you just don't know.
And it's the same with crystals, especially like the.
All the crystal guides in thebook are clear court.
Are courts related, right,they're clear courts.
And then all of the friends ofclear courts, all the courts,
because courts, like you said,has that high energy, it's got a
high vibration, it's an, anamplifier.
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They're at a different, I think, personally they're at a
different frequency than otherrocks and stones.
But I work with all and I don'twant people to think, like you
know, I'm an elitist because Iwill work with stones in the on
a hike you know what I mean likenot, it doesn't even have to be
one I bought in a shop, so Ilove that and I do.
GDC (11:22):
I think that quartz it's it is, it's more of um I don't
(11:45):
know how to describe it exactly,but it's almost like it's an
easy it were going to be talkingabout some very important
things and I brought out a bowlof some quartz hold this so that
I can connect, and then we'llall put them back into the bowl
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so that our knowledge isrecorded and is solidified by
ancient, ancient, ancient,ancient guides and maybe bring
it a little bit more grounded.
So I've worked with them likethat and in your book.
I don't want to get ahead ofmyself, but I am excited because
in your book I don't want toget ahead of myself, but I am
excited because in your book yougive us exercises, meditations,
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rituals, spells on how to workwith them.
But the first part about it islike discovering them and
building a relationship which isso beautiful, like you would to
a friend or a guide.
Or you know people, like yousaid, people know about angel
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guides, or you know differenttypes of guides.
But what about crystal guides?
So how do you build, like ifyou are just sitting here and
you're like whoa, I neverthought about that, and you're
listening to this podcast.
What could somebody do today,going, okay, I need to treat my
you know, my quartz crystals ormy crystals or my stone people
(13:12):
with more respect and I want toconnect with them.
Like, what could they do toconnect and build that, start
building that relationship withthem?
Jenny (13:23):
Yeah.
So with whatever is with you astone, a crystal, doesn't have
to be one of the spirit crystalsA quick cleanse.
So you know I always say thatI've been to actual mines.
So I was my geology clubtreasurer and I've seen, you
know, parts of hillsides blownup.
I've seen cyanide used to getgold Like.
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Like it's not.
Mining is not always like.
I just found this beautifulcrystal and here it's for you.
It's pretty aggressive and itcan be traumatic, I think, to
the crystals.
So, and you don't know whosehands have touched it.
So I like to give it a cleanse,and an easy cleanse, no matter
what kind of stone or crystal is.
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Take it outside, put it on theground and get it in some direct
, indirect sunlight and say, youknow, thank you sunshine, thank
you mother earth for cleansingthis crystal and then having it
be clear, and then bring itinside and blow your breath onto
that crystal, because yourbreath is sacred, and so you can
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onto the crystal and say, likeI want to be your friend, like,
wake up friends and connect thatway, giving a little piece of
yourself with the breath, andthen a lot of times the crystal
will respond to that.
We do the same thing with likeyou can do that with seashells,
with you know, herbs, if you'reusing it for a spell.
Feathers if you work withfeathers, like your breath is
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connecting you now to thatobject.
GDC (14:50):
I love that and it's kind of like for me.
What I get a visual of is thatyou are around like a bunch of
classmates or colleagues, butyou don't really know them.
But this is like giving youpermission to go hi, I'm
granddaughter Crow and I wouldlike to get to know you.
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That breath in me, approachingand doing that.
It sounds like that's whatyou're.
You're giving them respect andyou're introducing yourself and
you're calling out an aspect ofthem that a lot of times they
don't get called out like that,so they're just like well, you
know, I'll do my magic for you,but it'd be really nice and how
(15:34):
much more it would be, insteadof us just being colleagues, for
us actually to be friends and Ican show you you know more
magic for healing andempowerment, right.
Jenny (15:47):
Yeah, I love that.
I love the colleague versusfriend analogy.
That's exactly.
That's perfect way to say it.
GDC (15:53):
Yeah, and it is.
It's so good, and I studyanimism a lot, in shamanism and
definitely in my next bookthat's going to be coming out in
2026 about shamanism.
This book is one that I amgoing to put in the recommended
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reading because of the way thatyou can build a friendship with
what one would consider thetools that you're working with.
They're actually beings thatknow everything, because, I mean
, how long have they been aroundand what type of wisdom do they
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have?
Jenny (16:37):
Yep, absolutely yeah they're record keepers for sure.
Yeah, like you said, how youpassed around that bowl of
quartz and it's like it's goingto hold their record.
Yeah it, quartz runs throughoutthe earth.
It's so prevalent, it's in theveins, it's in a lot of ley
lines.
Like you know magical portalplaces, like it's there
recording everything and then wedig it up and you're just going
(17:00):
to like put it on your altar.
But maybe it has a lot ofthings to share with you.
GDC (17:11):
Yeah, I really like that.
So give us some examples ofwhat they can share with you.
I know that you outline likesix different, like you said,
from the quartz family stonesand connecting with them in
detail in your book.
What are different?
Like wisdoms that people wouldbe like almost shocked to know
that they would teach you orshow you.
Jenny (17:30):
Well, so I got the six that I have.
Those were chosen, those werechannels, so it wasn't like I at
random was like these six, itwas all channeled in an Akashic
Records recording that Irecorded.
And so what was interesting isI got like in that one channel
(17:51):
message, I got the crystals, Igot sacred numbers to those
crystals, I got differentaspects of divinity that connect
to those crystals and herbs andplants that work with that
crystal.
It was like a lot ofinformation.
So a lot of the book was workedbackwards.
(18:11):
It was like Llewellyn's likeokay, you got to get your
resources.
It's like yes, because I can'tjust say the Akashic Records.
So it was just like, okay, nowwe're working backwards and
we're trying to figure out.
Okay, this wisdom was given tome.
Now I have to show how otherpeople agree with this wisdom.
And so what was most interestingto me is I got immediately that
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amethyst is connected toancient Egypt, right, and that
also connected to alchemy.
And I actually in my ownreading did not know that
alchemy was part of ancientEgypt.
I didn't know that like it hadany connection there because I
thought alchemy came from likeEurope.
I really did not know there wasany connection.
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And so then this research, I'mlike shocked.
I was shocked.
I was like whoa, like thisreally does have this connection
that I wasn't even consciouslyaware of, which showed that that
was correct information, right,like if it kept happening, like
these moments where I'd be like, oh, wow, yeah, that does make
sense.
And you know, and it was justlike the research would just
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back up what was given to me,which felt like a really
precious gift, because it's likeobviously they knew what they
were talking about.
GDC (19:26):
So I love that.
I mean, it's almost like yougot an introduction to the
council.
Yeah, that's how I see it.
Jenny (19:39):
I like that yeah and so what are?
GDC (19:43):
what are the six?
The six stones crystals.
What are the six crystals?
I use stone and crystalsynonymous, so sorry about that,
but what are the six crystalsbesides amethyst and quartz?
What are the other four?
Jenny (19:59):
And it's okay, because all crystals are stones, but not
all stones are crystals.
So it's okay to say, like, whenin doubt, use stone or rock,
because you don't, crystal hasto have a certain kind of like
scientific structure to beconsidered a crystal, so it's
totally fine.
But yeah, so we have amethystand clear quartz.
(20:20):
We have rose quartz, which isvery connected to, like, the
angelic realm and connectingwith, like, obviously, the heart
chakra and but I learned, likeworking with Rose Quartz, it's a
(20:42):
, I feel it's a crystal that'smore about self-love more than
anything else, more than like,trying to find your true love.
I see rose quartz used a lot inlove spells and I think that's
great, because you have to loveyourself in order to attract
someone that will love you too.
So keep doing that.
But yeah, I definitely see itthat way.
And then smoky quartz is reallyconnected with things like the
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unknown, like there's ameditation in there with the
smoky court section.
That is a connection to therainbow bridge, right To
crossing over and deciding ifyou want to connect with the
other side of people who havepassed away or ancestors, and so
the smoky courts really isabout that, is about the other
side, is about the mediumship.
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And then aventurine.
I used that one becauseoriginally my guide said green
quartz and I'm like as far as Iknow that's not a thing but it
is.
It's called prazialite, somepeople call it green quartz, but
it's actually pretty hard tofind.
So I went back into likemeditation.
I was like can we useAventurine, cause it's uh, it is
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in the quartz family, it'sgreen, it's much more prevalent
and I do have both.
Now I was able to findPraviolite and Aventurine and
really the energy to me it's thesame.
And then um, and that one isconnected with inner wisdom.
So really tapping into what Icall the sage, which is really
like your intuition, your innerwisdom.
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And then the last one iscitrine, which is another one
that some people like when yougo, if you're going to buy
citrine, it's actually verylight in color and we a lot of
what's sold is heat treated,amethyst and kind of looks like
root beer.
So that's just something forpeople to keep in mind.
But that one is connected withmanifesting and it helps unlock
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the blocks to being like in yourreal power so that you can
actually manifest.
GDC (22:36):
I absolutely love that and so would you say that people.
How could people decide whichone to get when they're working
with the book?
Or do you recommend gettingthem all, or are they drawn to
one?
Like, how do they choose whichone to work with?
Jenny (22:57):
So in the book there's a series of meditations that
guide you to decide to see whoyour spirit crystal is, and so
the first meditation is aboutwell, there's like a couple
meditations prior to, andthere's some tips.
So people are I use the wordmeditation if people get nervous
there are some tips for thosepeople and and it's okay to do
(23:19):
the meditation more than oncelike I tell them that to their
short, you can just record yourvoice, read what I wrote, record
it, and then there's a seriesof three meditations and at the
end your crystals revealed toyou.
And originally this was a class.
So I've done this class liveand then I did it online and
then it was a Udemy class andnow it's a book and I'm getting
(23:40):
feedback from people reading thebook saying it's it works just
as well as a book, which wasgood to know Because you know,
sometimes it's easier to do ameditation like with a voice.
But it is going to be an audiobook, which I also think will
really help people with themeditation aspect that's being
worked on right now.
So I'm not sure when that comesout yet, but that'll, I think,
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be wonderful for people who arelike I don't want to record my
voice reading a meditation.
GDC (24:05):
Hey, yeah, no, I absolutely love it and going into that
meditation and it makes it.
It makes it more like insteadof it makes it like Jenny C Bell
is introducing us to thecouncil and they will come
forward and tell us which one weconnect with.
(24:27):
Do you connect with more thanone, or is it generally like one
?
Or am I getting too technical?
Like, how many friends do youget?
You know how many?
How many guides can you handle?
Like, how do you perceiveworking with one or more than
one?
Jenny (24:43):
I have had in all the classes I've done, I've only had
like maybe one or two peoplereally connect, obviously, to
two, but most people connectonly with one, and to me they're
lifetime guides.
But that doesn't mean you can'twork with the other five,
because they are related.
But it's a very I would sayit's a very minimalist approach.
(25:06):
Like you know, anti-socialmedia needing 500 crystals on
your altar and I'm saying likeyou just need one and you just
be cool with the one and you canwork with that one for your
whole life.
But yeah, there are someactivities in the book where if
you want to have all six, youcan, and there's like some ways
that you can use them togetherto make certain kind of magic
(25:26):
and ritual and crystal grids andthings like that.
But you can just work with theone and keep it simple too.
GDC (25:32):
Love it.
I'm going to in my the way thatI do things.
I'm going to ask you a reallyweird question.
I used to have and I gifted it,but I used to have a rose
quartz and I had it set up in myoffice where I would see people
and do sessions and readingsand healings and all of that.
(25:55):
And in connecting with thisstone, I just called her Sarah.
This is Sarah.
And sometimes when I would seesomebody who was really
emotionally distraught all of asudden from the side of my eye,
I'd feel like Sarah was glowingand I'd go hold on, would you
(26:17):
like a hug from Sarah, would youlike to hold Sarah?
And they would hold her andthey would feel more peace.
And I worked with her for atleast a decade until I think
there was something thathappened and I was like, oh,
sarah now belongs to this person, and so I handed Sarah to
(26:40):
another person.
But my point is why do youthink I called her Sarah?
Jenny (26:56):
You know.
So I was talking about crystalskulls earlier and people.
You can go on these what arecalled rehoming groups, which is
exactly like what you did, likepeople they do.
There is like a monetaryexchange, but it's a rehoming
and the skull always has a nameand it's like the guide that
inhabits that crystal and peoplegive them and trade them and
I've seen every name.
I mean like some of them soundlike otherworldly, like a name
you never heard of, but some ofthem are simple, like Sarah.
I have a crystal skull that'sAlana, that's just the name she
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gave me and I'm like OK, girl,like you're Alana.
GDC (27:24):
Yeah, yeah, for me it makes it.
(28:09):
It really cuts to theunderstanding that this is your
friend, your guide, healing andempowerment.
So, like, can you give us anexample?
So now we've met the stones,can you give us an example of
you know, I know you have a lotof meditations and exercises and
rituals and spells which I lovePut us in action, you know, get
us to go in action.
The question is is what?
How does that connection, howdo you build that connection
beyond?
I don't even know what I'masking.
It's Mercury retrograde.
I'm really like just so excitedabout oh, we got new friends.
How do we play?
Jenny (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good question.
So each crystal is attached toan archetype and that was given
to me.
I sat with each crystal, whichis why I had to find a piece of
prazialite.
I'm like why did you guys giveme a weird one?
So, anyway, I sat with each oneand that's how I determined a
lot of the information beyondwhat I was originally given.
So it's sit and be like rosequartz, like lay in meditation,
keep rose quartz with me for acouple of weeks and like that's
(28:55):
when I'm writing the chapter andshe's telling me put this in
here that I'm connected to this,Like what about this?
And I felt really heavilyguided, I would say, when I
wrote this book and so, yeah,that's so.
Basically, like how do you whatthe question was like, how to
play right.
So with the archetype, once youkind of determine like this is
(29:17):
my crystals, my archetype.
One of the first suggestions Ihad was to make a playlist based
off of your archetype.
I love this.
Based off of your archetype.
I love this, yeah, so just likethat's playing and having fun,
and I do.
If people go to my website, Ihave a Spirit Crystals portal
page and I do have playlists foreach one of the archetypes, but
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I definitely encourage peopleto make their own, but making a
collage of the archetype, justkeeping the crystal with you,
and it doesn't like I talkedabout, it doesn't have to be
this big, showy piece, justhaving it like take it in the
shower, take it on a ride, takeit.
I like to take my crystals to astream and like let them have
like a little stream time andlike water.
(29:59):
I'm weird for sure, Um, but youknow, take them like, have them
next to you while you sleep,Say hey, I want to meet you in
my dreams.
Like come to me, there's.
It's just an invitation, likean open invitation, to like
let's connect, let's hang out,let's play like you would with a
new friend or a pet or whatever.
GDC (30:30):
I absolutely love that.
So, people, jenny C BellcomliterallyN-N-Y the letter C bell
B-E-L-L dot com, where you canfind not only how to get this
book, so that you can get toknow your spirit crystal, but,
moreover, find all of theselittle gifts and playlists which
I am definitely going to bechecking out, definitely going
to be checking out because atthis point, you know, jenny, I,
I, my main jive is spiritualjive, is shamanism, and it's how
(30:55):
I think, it's how I approachthe world, it's how I live and
all of that.
And so when I'm talking with youabout this, I'm like this is
how I kind of help people tounderstand their animal spirit
guide and I take them through aguided meditation and a lot of
times people will just come upto me and go well, which one is
mine?
(31:15):
And I'm just like well, youknow, I can see that you act
like a bird, I can see you actlike a wolf.
I can see that you haveattributes like independence
like a cat, a wolf, I can seethat you have attributes like
independence, like a cat.
But, in truth, why, ask me, whynot go into meditation and
start building your ownrelationship?
I'm not your dating coach.
Jenny (31:37):
I like that, yeah, cut out, just cut out the middleman
or middle woman, like that'swhat my book's about, that's why
it's empowerment, it.
It's like I do offer a servicewhere I can find your spirit
pistol for you, but I wouldrather you go through the
process, the journey, and findit like it's definitely so
rewarding.
(31:58):
I remember like the first, thefirst guide that I ever got to
connect with was an animal guideand it was in this like guided
meditation and um, it didn't gowell for me.
Okay, it was.
I was like I go in, I'm like 19,I'm like I'm a cat, it's
obviously gonna be like mountainlion, a cougar, like I love
(32:18):
cats, the cats, and I go inthere and the instructor was
like you were really closed offbecause I didn't see anything.
We go and and like there's likethis whole forest thing, and
then you go to like this hole inthe ground and your animals
just come out and I saw nothingbut a paw and I was like why is
that?
You know, I was like reallydisappointed and you know young
and whatever, and they're likeyou just do it at home on your
(32:40):
own a couple times and you haveto be open because you're not
open.
It's very clear that you thinkyou already know what your
animal is, and so I make a bigthing in the book about, like,
just be open to the crystal,because you just don't know
who's there for you, who's goingto guide you, and in my case it
was a wolf, not a cat.
GDC (32:59):
Love it and I can see both attributes, I mean from my end.
You very much hold that catpresence.
But then also in talking to youI'm like, oh yeah, you're
definitely a wolf, but I wouldkind of this is what I would say
that you come from cat peoplebut you are the spirit of the
(33:20):
wolf Because you hold both.
You know like you're comingfrom the cat clan but your role
is the wolf in the cat clan.
That's just me being having fun.
Jenny (33:30):
No, but no, you're right .
Can I tell you why that's sofunny?
Because my mom.
My mom and my sister are Leos,my daughter's a Leo son, my
son's a Leo rising.
I really do come from catpeople.
GDC (33:42):
You come from cat people and we're sitting here recording
this under the new moon in Leo,which is another cat people.
I love it.
So you are the wolf amongst thecat people.
Yeah, so maybe you have dualcitizenship.
Jenny (34:00):
Maybe I do yeah.
GDC (34:03):
I love that, I love it, I love it.
So, when you are here's anotherstrange question that comes to
my mind as I'm listening to this, as though I've never read this
book for the audience Like, howdo you hear the stones then?
Like, do you have to beclairaudient?
(34:24):
Like do they talk to you?
Or like do they send youpictures or is there numbers?
Or how do you communicate?
What are the, I guess, mostcommon ways that they
communicate back to you?
Jenny (34:40):
Yeah, so in the book, before we get started, I go over
the clairsenses.
So you know, people all knowclairvoyant, like everybody
knows that one and that's, youknow, clear seeing.
But very few people have thatand in fact some people have
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like an inability to envision intheir mind and so I talk about
all the different clear sensesand like how they can come
through and there's some chakrameditations and kind of clearing
before we even get into,because that's kind of the way
to open yourself up to intuitionand for some, I feel like most,
for most people, they have.
I feel everybody has intuitionand it comes in different ways
and but a lot of people doubt it.
(35:25):
And so I think a big thing inthe meditations like just trust.
Just trust whatever comesthrough, if it's a color, if
it's a sound, if it's a symbol,it's you know and just trust
that that's the way it'scommunicating with you and it
can change.
Like you know, some peoplestart off one way, like I
definitely consider myself clearaudience, but the more I read
(35:46):
tarot, the more imagery comes infor people and I'll say I see
this and this and this for youand oh yeah, that's exactly
right, you know, and so that itcan change over time.
I think the more spiritual workwe do, it opens us up more.
But yeah, I think you know andjust trust it.
GDC (36:04):
You just have to trust the initial no-transcript and so you
help us to break through.
(36:25):
Yeah, I absolutely love thisand I do want to shift over to
your divergent, you know,witchcrafty book, or I forgot
the title.
But before we do I would.
I just have another question.
Another question there.
(36:51):
With the crystal skulls in theplace that I come from, more you
know, native in culture andstuff, those to me appear to be
also cosmic energy coming in,not just angel guides, not to
say that that's all, but moreeven alien or extraterrestrial.
(37:11):
What do you think about that?
Jenny (37:13):
Am I like way off, or no way, you're definitely not way
off.
There's not a whole lot of bookson crystal skulls and I have
read, I think, most of them.
I have the metaphysical libraryhere down the street from me and
I read, I've watched videos,I've tried to kind of, and then
the best thing for me was justconnect with them myself and
(37:34):
kind of learn.
But you know, my Oracle deckthat I have is called the cosmic
creator, because I do believethat there's this cosmic
connection, like, yes, we haveMother Earth and Father Sky and
Grandmother Moon and GrandfatherSun, but I also think around
all of this is some kind ofuniversal cosmic creation, and
(37:55):
so is it extraterrestrial, is italien?
I don't know, and I also feellike it doesn't matter because
it's here, and you know, we allare made of stardust, like we
all have this kind of likecosmic connection, for sure.
And so there's differentbeliefs on the different skulls
and there are people that carvethe skulls in a way that looks
(38:17):
alien.
They call them like a travelerand they look like a galactic
traveler I've seen them, yepyeah, so I, I personally, I just
like this.
I guess it's like a kind of aBuddhist perspective.
You know, like I don't ask whythe Big Bang, I just accept the
Big Bang.
You know like it's, it happened, it's here, like I don't need
(38:39):
to know why we're here or howyou know.
And so, with Crystal Skulls, Ithink the best explanation again
comes from Jamie Sams, whotalked about in her book 13
Original Clan Mothers, that whenthe 13 Original Clan Mothers
disappeared, all that was leftwere 13 perfect, clear quartz
skulls.
Talked about 13 crystal skullsand then that the Mitchell
(39:10):
Hedges skull being like the onlyone that supposedly has been
found and that there's the other12 either still hidden or being
kept and whatever.
And so it's a very I don't know.
It's interesting and it's likeI think at one point we did know
, you know right, I agree withyou.
GDC (39:25):
I absolutely love that because my father used to say we
talk so intelligently about allof our confusions, but when you
know what you know, just knowwhat you know, just accept it
and be where you are with the,the cosmic energy and everything
(39:50):
.
Well, I love, I love, I love, Ilove that you brought this book
um, published by luella, andyou guys pick up yours spirit
crystals by jenny seabell itjust came out, discovering your
Crystal Guides for Healing andEmpowerment.
Okay, so let's do a littleprelude, like okay, you've got
(40:13):
another book in the works aboutdivergent witchcraft.
How much do we get to know?
Because I don't want spoileralerts, but I am so curious
because yeah, I am so curiousbecause, yeah, yeah.
Jenny (40:29):
So when I originally started writing, I wanted to
write a book that was anintroduction to witchcraft, but
not like one we'd seen before,cause there's a lot Like.
I remember when I used to getmy books at borders back in the
nineties.
Again, it was like every bookwas an introduction book and I'd
be like, where's the level twobook?
(40:50):
Like I'm ready, I'm introduced,give me the next thing.
And so I wanted to write anintroduction book that was very
inclusive for all genders,because a lot of times we get
very the older, especially likeWiccan books.
It's very like gendered, likehere's the feminine and here's
(41:10):
the masculine and the moon's awoman and if you're a dude, good
luck.
Like you can't connect Rightand it's very binary, it's very
old fashioned.
And then also I ended upworking, just I think like
attracts light with a lot ofneurodivergent baby witches.
Just I think like attractslight with a lot of
(41:31):
neurodivergent baby witches andneurodivergent people ask such
deep questions.
It's like they don't want thejust give me the surface answer,
like they want the deep dive,give me all the information.
It's a different way of theyhave different way of looking at
things and viewing things.
And so I wanted to write a book,my version of like how I would
teach introduction and towitchcraft to people like in a
(41:55):
more inclusive approach, and sothat's Divergent Witchcraft.
That's the whole point of thebook.
Is anybody, like anybody canlearn from it for sure, because
when you like I was a schoolteacher and when you teach to
like you know any kind ofinclusivity, everybody can
understand it better.
You know what I mean.
Not just the ones who quoteneed it, but, like everybody
(42:19):
learns better that way.
And so it's another book withlike a lot of exercises and a
lot of meditations, a lot ofjournaling, pausing I can't help
but be a teacher like I, reallyand so it's going to it's, and
I think it's going to be goodbecause it's doing things, um,
in a new way, like looking atthe moon in a new way, looking
at, uh, writing spells in a newway, and that's another thing I
(42:43):
feel has been missing from theworld of witchcraft books is
there's like not a lot of likehow do I create my own spell?
GDC (42:51):
Oh, my, of course, way to point out the obvious.
I never even thought about that.
Jenny (42:58):
It's a lot of like here's spells and here's
correspondences.
But if you're new or you lookat this list of correspondences,
it's like I don't know what todo with this.
You're new, or you look atthose lists of correspondences
and it's like I don't know whatto do with this.
GDC (43:09):
Yeah, oh, I love that.
I absolutely love that, and I'mlooking forward to seeing that
book out there, because I thinkthat that's the inclusivity, and
the neurodivergent is probablya lot more common than we think,
and I absolutely love lookingand learning from different
(43:30):
places.
I mean, maybe I'mneurodivergent and I don't know,
because I'm a Gen X and wedidn't do that back then.
You know, maybe, maybe I needto take some tests, because I
too.
People ask oddball questionsand see the world in a very
different way, which is why youguys follow me and watch the
show, right, right, right.
So, jenny, I'm so excited aboutthat.
(43:53):
So, of course, jennycbellcomand you have I know you're on
Instagram with our oven and Ifollow you daily because you
post such great things.
Where can we find?
Where can we find that?
What is it?
Is it our coven on?
Jenny (44:14):
Instagram.
It's our coven community, okay.
GDC (44:17):
Our coven community.
You guys have to follow,because Ginny really does.
I mean I'll just wake up in themorning, I do my little
meditation, I have my coffee,I'm set for the day and I go in
there and there's Jenny lookingat me from her backyard or
wherever going happy new moon.
(44:39):
And Leo, what rituals are yougoing to do to celebrate and
connect?
And it's just a reallywonderful gathering place.
And then you have the onlinecommunity as well.
Can you just share a little bitabout whatever you want with
the online community, because Iknow a lot of people and they
even sometimes comment and sayI'm here in the South, there is
(45:02):
nobody around.
I want a community that I canparticipate in.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour community online.
Jenny (45:13):
Yeah, it's called Our Coven and it's a mighty network
which is a private social media.
So it's not like Patreon, whichis the would be more focused on
me.
It's a real like community andit's it does cost to join.
It's $22 a month, and so youpay that $22 and you can decide
(45:34):
yes, I like it, I want to committo the whole year which would
be cheaper to do that or no.
It was a good trial and I'mgood now, but we basically
strive to do a live every monthand it's up to the community.
So they pretty much drive likewhat they want to learn about.
This year We've coveredspiritual protection.
We've covered connecting withland spirits.
(45:56):
We've done a lot on crystals inpreparation for reading spirit
crystals.
We have a book club and then Ithink the best thing is a huge
library of like anything youcould ever want to ask, like
crystals, akashic Records,ancestors, goddesses, elements,
candles.
(46:16):
You know it's like all thisstuff.
And then I'm there and I checkin every day and I try to.
I try to get back to everybodyin at least 48 hours.
So if someone's new and theyhave a question, I try to give a
very thoughtful answer.
They really drive the contentand so it's a community and we
do a card reading exchanges.
Um, I do every every month thebeginning of the month I'll do
(46:37):
like a pick a card reading andkind of talk about the energy of
the month for everybody.
And yeah, it's just really cozy.
It's been like they've been sosupportive of the book.
It's been really sweet.
They take selfies when it comesin the mail and they show me
like the book and it's likereally it's a place of kindness,
because a lot of the Internetis not.
GDC (47:03):
I love it and people just need to go to JennyCBellcom and
they can find more informationabout our coven and that's a
wonderful place, you know, to beable to go.
It's a safe haven and $22 tostart to check it out for one
month is a master number.
(47:23):
It's just a beautiful thing andit supports.
It's kind of like, you know,when you go to church to pay
your tithes.
It's giving back and have andbuilding a relationship with.
So, yeah, I'm really excitedabout about that and I love
following you on on Instagrambecause it's you make people
(47:43):
think you ask them questionsthat you literally want to hear
what they have to say versuswell, this is the test.
Do you know which stone I'mthinking of?
You know it's more of a, whichI love those two, don't get me
wrong but you're more of a.
How are you going to practicetoday?
And so, yeah, you guys, checkout Jenny C Bell, ginnycbellcom.
(48:08):
Please pick up her bookpublished by Llewellyn, spirit
Crystals.
It is absolutely phenomenal.
It literally is not justanother book on crystals, it is
a book about spirit guides inthe crystal nation period.
(48:31):
Stamp of approval I have it.
I actually wrote a little blurband it ends up in the book and
you know what's so funny.
Can I tell you something funny,jenny?
I wrote this blurb and I sentit to you because I, you know, I
reviewed the book and I'm like,oh, this is awesome, I really
want to say something about it.
And then I forgot about that.
(48:53):
And then one day I get thisbook in the mail and I'm like,
holy moly, this is Jenny's book.
And oh, my goodness, it's sogorgeous.
And I took a picture and I sentit to you.
I'm like, look, no-transcript,it's a blurb, but I was just so
(49:37):
excited about the book.
Hey, is there anything thatcomes to you that you want to
share that we haven't covered,about spirit crystals or any,
anything else that you're doing?
Jenny (49:51):
um, no, I would just say that, uh well, thank you for
having me on, obviously, butyeah, this isn't.
It's not a book.
That is like the end all deal,like it's not an encyclopedia of
crystals, it's like a.
It's a gateway to a journey.
I would say it's a journey andso that's.
I think, more than anything,like the mindset like it's like,
(50:15):
okay, I don't really needanother crystal book, yeah, but
maybe you need a journey book.
Maybe you feel like it's timeto get a crystal and let it take
you on a journey and do all thehealing things and see where
you end up.
Because for me, healing is alifelong thing and we are
constantly cycling throughdifferent types of healing and
(50:35):
we need different ways of seeingthings.
We need to hear certain thingslike 10 times sometimes before
it really sinks in, and sothat's what it's really about.
It's more like that healingjourney than, okay, I need to go
get these crystals and workwith them.
It's like, no, it's abouttaking care of you.
It's really like a strong,self-care, self-nourishment book
.
GDC (50:55):
I love it with one of the most ancient, if not the most
ancient nations, the StoneNation, and the stone people who
have seen it all.
They have seen it all wereforged, have seen it all were
forged under intense pressureand mined traumatically.
So get the book, get yourcrystals, take them and play in
(51:16):
the stream and talk to them andintroduce yourself to get to
know them and they will respond.
Jenny, thank you so much forbeing on the show.
I really appreciate you a lot.
I always love talking to JennySeabell.
She's been on my show, I'vebeen on hers, it's been and will
continue to do so.
(51:36):
So anyway, thank you people,thank you, thank you.
Thank you listeners, pleaselike, subscribe and share with
those rock hounds that you knowthat need a little boost to go
whoa, these are alive, they'rereally, they have a personality
and they can come and talk to meand be empowered and your
(51:59):
healing empowerment journey.
I love it, I love it and solove you guys.
Thank you once again and wewill see you on the flippity
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