March 11, 2025 • 48 mins
A year ago today, what began as a casual Zoom call to promote a book transformed into something magical when intuitive author Melanie Barnum uttered these simple words: "That was a podcast." Today, we celebrate the first anniversary of Belief, Being and Beyond by bringing the conversation full circle with the very person who sparked it all.
The synchronicity feels electric as Melanie and I reflect on how divine timing works through intuitive nudges. Melanie shares her own remarkable journey from corporate controller to internationally acclaimed intuitive, describing the moment she heard the unmistakable directive: "You need to do this work now" while holding her newborn child. Despite initial resistance, she followed that spiritual calling, eventually authoring nine books and developing a thriving intuitive practice spanning nearly three decades.
We explore the concept of intuitive "flare-ups" – those goosebump moments when your psychic abilities heighten and undeniable validation arrives. Both of us emphasize the importance of journaling these experiences to create what I call a "personal psychic dictionary" – your unique symbolic language with spirit. Melanie explains how something as ordinary as a baseball diamond becomes a profound message from her mother, demonstrating how deeply personal our intuitive language can be.
For those beginning their intuitive journey or feeling stuck by self-doubt (which I describe as "the arch nemesis of the magician"), we offer practical starting points: light a candle, sit in silence, journal your experiences, and most importantly, take action on the guidance you receive. As Melanie wisely notes, "If it resonates with you, then it's good for you." Not everyone is meant to become a professional psychic, but we all have intuitive gifts waiting to be recognized and honored.
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Granddaughter Crow (00:00):
Welcome to Belief being and Beyond with
your host, granddaughter Crow.
Hi everyone, granddaughter Crowhere for yet another episode of
Belief being and Beyond when itAll Began.
So, in this special episode,where did the Belief being and
(00:21):
Beyond podcast begin?
I have Melanie Barnum herewhere it all began, and then
we're going to talk to Melanieabout where she all began.
Anyway, listeners, I want togive Melanie she's been on my
show before, but I need to giveher a proper introduction
because she is amazing.
So Melanie Barnum is a personalhealer, a teacher and an author
(00:46):
.
She's written nine books, stillplugging away working on
another one.
Melanie's sole intention is tojoyfully help others to connect
to their gifts, understand whothey are, discover their
greatness and heal themselvesthrough clarity and wisdom.
Wwwmelaniebarnumcom.
(01:08):
That's wwwmelaniebarnumcom.
Melanie.
Welcome back to the show forour one-year anniversary show
for our one year anniversary.
Melanie B. (01:28):
That's crazy to think about that One year.
This started for you like oneyear ago, and I was so blessed
to be here for the beginning.
I love this.
Granddaughter Crow (01:35):
In truth, I didn't know.
It was the beginning when wewere here exactly one year ago,
same date we recorded.
I didn't know, I just rememberbeing.
This is the inception story ofBelief, being and Beyond.
Of course, I have the bookBelief, being and Beyond by
Granddaughter Crow healing fromharmful belief systems,
(01:56):
deconstructing ideas andbecoming your authenticity,
which is what I am all about.
And so then I was like hey,melanie, can you hop on zoom and
we can record so I can get somelike social media content.
And I said you got a new bookcoming out, you know.
And it was like oh, you know.
(02:17):
Well, yeah, what is it?
Real life?
Intuition is what it was.
Melanie B. (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, that was my latest.
Granddaughter Crow (02:24):
Yeah, yeah that was released one year ago
this month, and um, so we hop onzoom, I start talking about
melanie, her book, asking authorquestions in the middle, and
you guys have to go back andcheck out the initial
conversation, because at thatpoint I didn't know it was a
(02:47):
podcast, right?
So Melanie's like oh, andyou're my fourth podcast.
Oh, I've been on four podcasts,you know, today or yesterday,
today or whatever, and you're myfourth.
And of course I am animprovisational speaker.
I go with the flow.
I'm like yay, I'm her fourthpodcast.
(03:08):
But in the back of my mind I'mlike what do you mean Podcast?
We're just recording.
And so I just went through therest of the show and after I
turned it off, melanie looked atme and was like that my dear
was a podcast, put it on YouTube, call it belief being and
(03:32):
beyond.
And I did.
And here we are a year later,melanie, what do you think about
that?
I mean, did you even know?
Like, was that just yourintuition?
Like what?
Melanie B. (03:47):
Well, I mean, I'm getting tingly.
Those of you that know anythingabout me know that you know
when my intuition is beingvalidated or when there's
something happening that needsvalidation or there's visitors
from the other side that arecoming through to let us know
that what we're talking about iseither true and accurate or
that spirit is present or both.
(04:07):
And I'm getting itchy on myhead I don't have any bugs and
I'm getting so tingly everywhereon my arms I have goosebumps
everywhere.
So to me, immediately, youasking me that that's total
validation.
And, yes, I knew this was goingto happen for you and I
remember the conversation and Iremember you saying, no, I'm not
(04:28):
doing a podcast.
And I said, yeah, I really, Ireally think you're good at this
and you really should do thisand have other authors and other
people on your podcast.
And you did just that and youmade such a difference in so
many people's lives already andyou've just begun.
I mean, you've been doing thisfor one year and you've just a
difference in so many people'slives already and you've just
begun.
I mean you've been doing thisfor one year and you've just
(04:49):
begun.
That's it.
And it's amazing the peoplethat you're reaching already and
the people that you're helpingwith this podcast.
It's fantastic and I am sopleased and so blessed that I am
here for your one yearanniversary Now, I know it's
going to take a little while, soit's probably not going to be
posted yet on your actual or onour actual one year anniversary,
(05:10):
but this is amazing.
It's amazing and it's, yes, veryintuitive and you knew also, it
clicked with you Also, itresonated with you also, because
you're also very intuitive.
So, yeah, it makes total sense.
Granddaughter Crow (05:24):
It was crazy for me because, in a very
strange way, although this isyour second appearance on Belief
, being and Beyond podcast, forme it's officially your first,
because the last time I didn'teven know that's what we were
doing and I absolutely Cheers tothat.
Cheers to that.
Yeah, I got my little waterbottle.
(05:45):
I reused my Gatorade bottle andjust put water in it perfect.
So what's really interesting isthat from there, people you
know, you hear the intro welcometo believe, being and beyond,
with your host, granddaughtercrow.
Yeah, that's my voice.
It is A lot of people are likewho did you hire to do that?
(06:13):
But it was just snuggling up tothe little microphone and going
welcome to another episode, andthe rest has just been so
playful.
Like you said, I've had amazingauthors about voodoo, about
hoodoo, about, you know, openingyour mind, about healing the
ancestors, about crystals, aboutangelums, about manifestation,
(06:38):
about angels, akashic Records Imean Divine Dirt.
There's so many.
I did take a little bit of timeoff at the end of last year, in
2024.
However, I still managed to getalmost 50 podcasts out.
(07:00):
That's crazy and have had.
So it's on YouTube likesubscribe and share, but also I
have it anywhere.
That's crazy Asia, we'relooking at Russia, we're looking
(07:23):
at Africa.
I mean all around the world,and I just want to say thank you
, thank you, thank you,listeners.
I hope that you enjoy.
I want to know what you guys doin year two, like what do you
want me to bring on?
I have so many fun things.
We talk about the shadow, wetalk about all these things, but
(07:45):
I really want to hear from youlisteners.
That would be the best giftever.
Put a comment in, send me anemail.
Connect with me on Messenger.
Text the show.
Yeah, if you are listening tothis on a podcast, scroll down,
text the show.
I will see your text.
I won't know who you are.
(08:05):
I'll know the general vicinitythat your area code comes from,
but otherwise you can stayanonymous.
Or let me know who you are.
Text the show.
I'd love some feedback.
So, melanie, thank you so muchfor like literally going well,
that was a podcast.
Well, you can do it.
And I was like wow, going well,that was a podcast, well, you
(08:25):
can do it.
And I was like wow, and shortlyafter that, within 10 days I
had it up on the air and nowit's on wherever you get
podcasts.
So that's like where it allbegan and now we're a year from
that.
In the spirit of where it allbegan, it all began in your
intro.
I said that you were like abusiness accountant.
(08:47):
Now, to me, business andaccounting is everything adds up
.
One plus one equals two.
I've got business degrees, Iget it.
And then, all of a sudden,intuitive author of almost 10
books now just give it a minute.
Author of almost 10 books, nowjust give it a minute.
(09:10):
Like Reiki practitioner,certified in hypnosis.
Certified in blah blah,whatever you could be certified
in spiritually, melanie iscertified in.
Check out our website,wwwmelaniebarnhamcom.
So anyway, where did it allbegin for you?
With jumping from business andaccounting to being an
international award winningauthor sitting on the Believe
(09:31):
being and Beyond show with yourhost, granddaughter Crowe.
Melanie B. (09:34):
Who's also an international award winning
author, by the way.
Granddaughter Crow (09:42):
I am.
That wasn't a prediction.
Melanie B. (09:43):
That actually happened, yeah.
So it's interesting becauseI've always been intuitive, I've
always been able to read people, but I didn't know that
everybody didn't do that.
I thought that that was just anormal thing.
As I got older, I was as yousaid, I was in business, I was
(10:04):
the controller of a company andI left there to open a
children's store and myintuition essentially just told
me this is what you need to donow.
And it's so funny because Iremember thinking back and it's
just about a year into having mychildren's consignment store
and I remember thinking backthat Years and years ago I must
(10:25):
have been a teenager.
I had seen myself like owning achildren's or owning a clothing
store, like a boutique, and Iwas kind of like, why would I do
that?
You know I love clothes, I lovekids, but that's not.
You know, I don't ever want totravel to like New York to be a
buyer.
(10:46):
I don't want.
That's not who I am.
But I saw myself owning achildren's store and I saw a lot
of colors.
Or I saw myself owning aboutique I'm sorry and I saw a
lot of colors in it.
And it didn't click until I wasabout a year into owning my
children's store that this isexactly what I had seen, and so
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my intuition was kind of playingout a little bit more.
It was kind of flaring up alittle bit more.
Didn't really think twice aboutit, I was still kind of like,
okay, whatever.
And then one day I was at homeand I was holding my newborn
baby in my arms and I felt likesomebody hit me over the head
and I heard the words you needto do this work now.
(11:27):
And you know, I just gotgoosebumps again, validation
that that was correct.
Um, and so I kind of, you know,looked around and was like no,
uh-uh, like what are you talkingabout?
And no, I'm not doing this worknow.
And, by the way, this work nowmeant nothing to me because I
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wasn't doing any intuitive work,I wasn't doing any of this
stuff.
So the fact that they said theybeing my guides on the other
side said you need to do thiswork now, and I knew instantly
what they were talking about.
I knew that I needed to startdoing professional psychic work
(12:10):
and I kind of laughed and saidno, you know, no, that's not
going to happen, I'm not doingthat.
You know totally the other sideof the brain at work here Like,
nope, not going to do it, and Ialways screw that up the left
and right brain.
Which side is the creative,intuitive side versus which side
is the business, analyticalside?
Granddaughter Crow (12:29):
I'll give you how I see it Left logic, ok,
right, creative yeah.
And then the right hemispheretakes over the left side of the
body and the left side does, butleft logic is how I remember
because I refer to that Perfect.
Melanie B. (12:46):
Yeah, I always forget, I have to look it up all
the time.
But yeah, so I was very leftbrained, you know.
Very logical, I was thecontroller of a company,
actually not just a businessperson.
I was the controller of acompany and I left there to open
my own children's boutique, myown children's boutique, and I
was literally standing in mydining room holding my baby and
(13:16):
I was like this can't be real,this can't be happening.
Why would they tell me I haveto do this work now?
But at the same time, Iinstantly knew, and I knew with
every fiber of my being, thatthey were right and this is,
this was my path and it totallychanged our lives.
My husband's, my baby, my soonto be baby after that totally
changed our lives, totallychanged everything about me and
(13:36):
who I was, so that I needed tokind of set out to learn
everything I could aboutintuition and how it worked,
because I was very right andleft brained at the same time.
So I knew that I had to havesome kind of a background.
(13:56):
So I started taking classes inintuitive development.
I took everything you couldpossibly imagine from people
that taught at continuing edclasses at high schools, and you
know people that taught atcontinuing ed classes at high
schools and you know people thatyou've never heard of.
I went to their classes and Ialso took classes from pretty
famous people authors and youknow people that have been on TV
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, and I realized right away thatthis made sense.
So you know, almost threedecades later, here I am and it
took me a while to say, okay, Ican hang a shingle and say I am
a psychic.
In the beginning, when I wasstudying and when I was learning
and I was doing this for, like,I said probably a year, a year
(14:40):
and a half before, I reallythought that this was real and
that I needed to do this, and Isaid, okay, hon, like we need to
change my career here, like ithas to actually happen.
I was offering free readings.
Now we're going way back tolike dial up AOL on the computer
and everything was a lot slower.
And you had the green lettersand I started doing.
(15:03):
I offered free readings backthen and I just remember
thinking that, wow, this is kindof crazy that the readings I'm
giving these people are comingtrue and you know what I'm
seeing and what I'm feeling andwhat the symbolic information
I'm receiving was real for themand it was real for me.
(15:23):
And I was able to validate andvalidate the information I was
getting, but also get validationthat what I was doing was where
I was supposed to be.
And, you know, fast forward alittle bit.
Like I said, I have a privatepractice now.
I've been practicing for almostthree decades and I also before
my mom passed way.
I also before my mom passed way, way back in 2007, who, I think
(15:50):
, helps me, by the way.
Yeah, so before my mom passed,she always used to say because
we're, our whole family, areavid readers, and she always
used to say you know, we allhave at least one good book in
us.
And I said, ok, and all of asudden it just hit me like I
need to write a book.
And so that's what started that.
So, 2012, my first book, theBook of Psychic Symbols, came
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out.
And what was interesting aboutthat as well is that, you know,
generally People submit theirbooks to multiple places and
multiple people.
Whether they're agents, whetherthey're publishing firms,
whatever it may be, peoplesubmit to so many places and
(16:32):
they get rejection letters.
You know, it's reality, ithappens.
But when I decided to write abook and I tuned in.
I tuned into the spine on thebook because I wanted to see
whether there was a logo there.
And I tuned in and I saw thelogo of the moon, which was
Llewellyn.
I had to look it up.
I had to go to the library orgo to the bookstore, I think,
(16:55):
and look and see what logo thatwas.
And it was Llewellyn.
And I said there's no wayLlewellyn is going to A publish
me but B publish my first everbook.
But I knew it and I told myhusband I need to just send it
to them and nobody else.
And that's exactly what I didand they picked up my first book
and I've been with them eversince.
Granddaughter Crow (17:15):
Yeah, so amazing.
I mean, there's so manywonderful things that you said
in there.
One I do want to talk aboutsomething that you said that I
thought was so poignant and Iwant to like talk about it.
You said that your psychicintuition flared up.
I really enjoy that there's somany morsels.
(17:38):
But I kind of want to go backto that because we have a lot of
listeners who are getting theflare-ups.
Like what does that look like?
I mean, it's like some of usget hit over the head.
It flares up.
Some of us are like we can'tget away from it.
Talk to us a little bit aboutwhat is the flare-up, or what
(17:59):
have you experienced around theflare-up?
Because it's so cute, it's notlike, oh, and then a little
special genie came to me andtapped me on the forehead, my
eye opened and I started mybusiness.
Sometimes it's a little bitmore like a flare up.
Melanie B. (18:14):
Mm, hmm.
So, like I said, I mean, thereal first thing that made me
believe that I needed to do thiswas I felt like I was hit over
the head.
But then, along the way, as Iwas learning about intuition and
I was, you know, doing allthese exercises and trying all
these different things and goingto all these workshops, and
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every time I felt like, you know, that was a flare up for me.
Like every time I took aworkshop, I felt like the energy
of all the people that weredoing this would bring up the
energy in me and around me.
And I'm getting goosebumpsagain.
Validation, and it was allowingmy intuition to build and to
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grow.
And those aha moments.
That's like the flare-ups.
It's those aha moments whereyou say, excuse my language, but
you say, holy shit, like didthat really just happen?
Did I really just do that?
Did that really just did I tunein?
And how did I get that?
It's those kinds of momentsthat we all are intuitive.
(19:21):
We're all, you know, by ourbirthright.
We're all intuitive, naturally.
But when we get those ahamoments, we are like wow.
And you know, we've talkedabout this before.
Almost three decades later, youknow, practicing professionally
, and I still get those ahamoments and I still say wow,
(19:43):
still get those aha moments andI still say wow.
And to me, the more aha momentsyou have as a practicing
psychic or just using your ownintuition, the more aha moments
you have, the more you connectwith your intuition, the more
aha moments you'll continue tohave and it'll grow and there'll
be that flare up that thatamazing.
Oh my God, I feel so psychic, Ifeel so intuitive this month,
(20:04):
like how a journal Get a journaland write it down.
Granddaughter Crow (20:25):
Write down.
I had this strange dream, thisweird thought came to my head
Like, what else would youjournal about?
Like Melanie, because I see yougoing yes, journal, journal,
journal.
What do you got to say aboutthe journals?
Melanie B. (20:38):
So just about every single book that I write.
I talk about journaling and I'mnot just sitting there saying
that you have to write down likea diary.
You know, like this happened,that happened, this happened,
that happened.
That's not what I'm talkingabout when I talk about
journaling.
What I'm saying is if somethingcomes to you, you know and it's
symbolic which which, to me,symbolism is inside, it's kind
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of intangible, you can't touchit, whereas signs are external.
So if it's something that'ssymbolic, or even that, if it's
something that's a sign, writeit down, because symbols are how
the universe talks to us quiteoften and it's because they try
and send us information in thebest way possible.
Send us information in the bestway possible.
(21:23):
They try and give usinformation whether it's your
higher self, or your loved oneson the other side, or your
guides, or your angels, or youknow, whoever you believe in.
I call it the universe.
So when the universe is tryingto send you information, they'll
send it to you in a way thatmakes it easiest for you to
understand.
So you know, if you couldimagine hearing one word and not
just having that one word, meanthat one word.
(21:46):
It means it's like getting awhole paragraph of information
in one word, and that's thestuff that you really need to
write down.
Those are the aha moments.
Those are the symbols, becausethey will, moving forward now
know the universe, your guides,your loved ones.
They will, moving forward nowknow the universe, your guides,
your loved ones.
They'll know that they can sendyou that symbol and it will
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relate and you'll be able tounderstand it instantly.
So when you create your ownsymbols journal or your own
intuitive journal, then you'reable to go back to it.
You know there's so many peoplewe have so many common symbolic
messages that come through andfor everybody.
You know there's so many peoplewe have so many common symbolic
messages that come through.
And for everybody you knowthere's, there's common ones,
there's ones that we allunderstand.
(22:27):
You know, if we see and I usethis example all the time if we
see a stop sign, we know itmeans stop, right, right.
But if you see and again, I usethis all the time when I see,
if I'm doing a reading forsomebody, and I see a baseball
diamond, you would instantlythink, ok, that person plays
baseball, or that person isconnected to baseball in some
way, or the person that passedis connected to baseball, and
(22:50):
that may be very well be thecase.
So when I tell people recognizeyour symbols, don't discount
that it could be a literaltranslation or it could be
something literal, right.
But when I see a baseballdiamond, a literal translation,
or it could be something literal, right.
But when I see a baseballdiamond, it's a reference to a
mother, because it's a referenceto my mom.
I know it sounds strange and mymom didn't even like baseball
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until the very end of her life.
So it sounds, I get goosebumpsagain.
So it sounds really interestingor really strange when you
think about how far out in leftfield, literally, you know that
that symbol could be for you.
And that's why keeping ajournal is so important and
that's why you know, as you said, writing stuff down, writing
down the flare ups and whathappened, and writing down the
(23:37):
aha moments, and writing downwhat it means, or even what you
were doing when you receivedwhat you think was an intuitive
nudge.
Granddaughter Crow (23:45):
I love it.
So I love that you talk about,the more that you engage and get
that confirmation, the morethat you know that you're in the
flow and you're connected withsomething, because that's just
true and I love that.
And then it also on the otherside.
(24:05):
I've heard that self-doubt isthe arch nemesis of the magician
.
Self-doubt is arch nemesis ofthe magician.
So all of us have our good,healthy.
So all of us have our good,healthy, heaping share of
self-doubt.
You know why?
Because we are human living onEarth.
(24:26):
You know Exactly.
And yet when you write andjournal things down, you're just
like but the proof is in thepudding, you know, and I love
that.
I love that and I love thisbecause when I talk about what
you're talking about, thisintuitive thing, this journal,
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this dialogue, I call it yourpersonal psychic dictionary and
I'm just like you know, maybewhen you were young and you
weren't feeling good and you hada stomach ache and a fever, and
(25:06):
your caregiver came up to youand gave you a cherry popsicle
and said don't worry, I know youdon't feel good now, but
everything will be okay.
And so then in a weird way,your psyche like recognizes
cherry popsicle with I'm notfeeling good, I am being watched
over, that's okay, it'll beokay.
So, in a psychic read, then ifI'm like sitting there and I see
(25:27):
a cherry popsicle yeah, maybethe person likes cherry
popsicles, just had one theliteral translation I get hung
up on sometimes, but usuallyI'll just look at them and say I
know that you might not befeeling well right now, but I'm
just here to tell you that youare being watched over and
everything will be okay, thiswill pass.
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And then it's just like oh well, okay.
And yet the literal translationsare so hilarious to me because
I'm trying to read into whatdoes this mean?
What does this mean?
And then I'm just like well,here, let me just show you, I'm
seeing this.
And they're like oh, you know,I'm like I see a bunch of coins
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and I thought, you know, and hewas like oh well, I just came
from trading in a bunch of goldcoins and it's just like oh, so
that was just residual energy.
So the more that you journal,the more that you get used to
how you are perceiving into thisdialogue, and the more that
they know that you are gettingtheir messages, the more it
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becomes a dialogue and not justa one-way conversation where
they're saying a bunch of stuffto you but you get to turn
around and go wait.
But what did that mean?
Or, you know, you get to talkto them a little bit more of a
dialogue.
Could you talk to us about likedialogue with spirit, and are
we allowed to ask questions oncewe get a sign that we might not
(26:53):
understand Right?
Melanie B. (26:56):
So what's interesting to me is I'm going
to first talk about imaginationbecause, like you said,
self-doubt it's so common tohave doubt about what you're
receiving and to think that it'syour imagination, and sometimes
it is your imagination.
But what I tell people all thetime is that you have to be able
to imagine things in order toreceive things.
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If you can't hear, feel, see,know, taste, smell things with
your imagination, then you can'treceive any type of you know,
symbolic or intuitive messages,because your imagination will
block it off.
You won't be able to do that.
So it's important to use yourimagination.
(27:39):
But that also opens us up thento the self-doubt.
So if you're not sure what youjust got, or what the message
may mean that you think you haveor that you think you're
getting, ask for validation, askfor something else, ask.
You can ask your guides, yourloved ones, spirit.
(27:59):
You can ask the universe giveme something more.
Yeah, let me know that I'm onthe right track here.
You know.
Validate it for me by showingme another symbol or another
sign externally.
You know, give me somethingmore, something I can work with,
and you know if, if you wereasking and I can't even think of
(28:22):
a good example.
But if you were asking, you know, should I take this new job or
should I not take this new job?
And all of a sudden another joboffer comes in and you're like,
oh wait, should I go for thatjob?
And then you see a stop sign.
Like I said before, well, thestop sign now could be applying
to either one of those jobsYou're not quite sure which one
is which now could be applyingto either one of those jobs.
(28:43):
You're not quite sure which oneis which.
But then if you ask forvalidation and say it was, you
know, being a nurse at thishospital versus at this school,
and all of a sudden you see abunch of little kids running
around, then they're directingyou to go be a nurse at the
school.
Granddaughter Crow (28:57):
Yeah.
Melanie B. (28:57):
Right, yeah, so if you ask for validation, you
usually get it, and it may nothappen instantly.
It may not happen right away,it may take a day or two, it may
even take a week.
Yeah, because maybe you don'tneed to make that decision yet,
you don't need to choose yet.
Yeah, maybe neither one isright for you, so you're not
going to get that validationright away.
Yeah, but if you ask forvalidation, the universe will
(29:21):
provide it in one way or another.
The, the universe will provideit.
So, in order to get past kindof that self-doubt, get past
that fear that it's just yourimagination, ask for more.
Granddaughter Crow (29:37):
Because somebody, when I was teaching a
class on meditation andintuition and psychic
development, you know that wasone of those questions that come
up quite often, like is this myimagination or is this my
intuition?
And I find that a verybeautiful question, because they
are sisters, like you said,it's kind of they're sisters.
(29:58):
And so then what I say to themis who is driving your
imagination at this moment?
Are you driving it is asituation in the past or did you
connect with the divine andyou're asking for the divine to
give you?
So then, because it feels a lotlike what do you think?
(30:19):
So I'm like surrender yourimagination at certain times and
allow those pictures.
So for me, I have an agreement.
I do one-on-one sessions and Istill continue to do that.
And one thing when you come intoa one-on-one session with
Granddaughter Crow, the firstthing I do is like hi, blah,
blah, blah, when's your birthday?
(30:39):
Blah, blah, blah.
I do is like hi, blah, blah,blah, when's your birthday?
Blah, blah, blah.
And then I say, okay, let's setsacred space.
And then I say welcome intothis space, welcome into this
time which is centering somebodyright there.
Leave everything else, we arehere now.
And then I say I draw a circlearound the space, around this
time, declaring it a sacredspace.
(31:00):
Draw a circle around this spacearound this time, declaring it
a sacred space.
So now only sacred things cancome into that space.
And it's an agreement betweenme, spirit and the person who
came into the session.
And then I say I set my ego tothe outside, or my fun
imagination to the outside, soI'm not projecting onto them.
Oh, you remind me of my onefriend, shannon.
(31:22):
You must be really fun, and Idon't project my old memory onto
them.
And then I say, and I openmyself up as a conduit, that
will be the divine as it revealsitself to you, which, moreover,
goes to your point, like maybeit's your guides, maybe it's
your ancestors, maybe it's likemaybe it's your guides, maybe
(31:42):
it's your ancestors, maybe it'syour angels, maybe it's the
aliens, whatever it is theuniverse, I call it the divine
as it reveals itself to you,because it reveals itself to me
differently, like all the time,the more I grow, it changes and
shifts, and I don't put it in abox, and so, and then I'm just
like to provide you with themost beneficial information that
(32:02):
you need today, because youknow what you may need to hear
something different tomorrow orin a year, and so that's kind of
my way and that's one of myagreements.
So then, in short, I'm turningover my imagination to the
divine in that scenario.
(32:23):
So what do you think about that?
Melanie B. (32:26):
That's a lot.
No, I think it's perfect.
I think it's perfect and Idon't know if you notice, but
I'm like itching.
I'm itching my head, I'mmessing with my hair.
It's not because I have bugs, Iswear.
There's nothing jumping outother than you know.
My hair is thinning quitedrastically, but besides that
there's there's nothing jumpingout other than you know.
My hair is thinning quitedrastically, but besides that,
there's nothing jumping out.
It's just that what you'resaying is being validated by my
(32:48):
guides, by my universe.
So what you're talking aboutmakes total sense.
You know you're asking for notonly your client to be present,
but also you to be present soyou can be a conduit, so that
you can be there to share theinformation that you're getting.
And it makes total sense to meIf you're not prepared to be
(33:12):
present for your client or forwhoever you're reading for,
it'll never work.
You won't get the information.
Yeah, so it makes total senseto me.
Granddaughter Crow (33:21):
I love it.
So, once again, melanie Barnum,just wwwmelaniebarnumcom.
Books, card decks, one-on-onesessions, just so many, so many
things to connect.
And if you didn't, so many, somany things to connect.
(33:45):
And if you didn't, if you don'tknow if it works, trust me.
This show came through melaniesaying oh, by the way,
granddaughter crow, this is ashow, and I was like wow and I
took that and it became alivewithin me and I have been having
so much fun getting to knowpeople and sharing information,
(34:09):
asking questions that maybeothers are afraid to ask, like
what is Lumeria?
What do you mean by the AkashicRecords Is hoodoo scary If I
have a white body?
Records Is hoodoo scary If Ihave a white body.
Can I practice All of thosewonderful questions, belief
(34:32):
being and beyond, bringing greatpeople to great people?
So let's just go ahead andcircle back to where it all
began and maybe kind of we'vegot where it all began with
Believe, being and Beyondpodcast.
We've got where it all began inyour story.
Let's talk a little bit aboutwhere our audience is now,
because we kind of gave themclues, journal and things like
(34:53):
that.
Like get your confirmationslive, thrive, grow.
You might be a left-centrichemisphere row, you might be a
left-centric hemisphere.
I mean, I wasn't the controller, but I was the manager of
financial communications for aninternational company under
investor relations, publicrelations and media relations.
(35:13):
If that isn't left-centric, Idon't know what is except for
being a controller.
But then how we ended out, kindof balancing this out.
So for the listeners, what arelittle things.
If they're going throughtransitions around, opening up
more of their intuition, maybethey are ready to make a big
(35:36):
leap.
Maybe they don't have to make abig leap, maybe it's just about
opening it up.
I would say to do journal,light a candle and be quiet, and
then journal.
I would say, be quiet.
What little other things wouldyou say along the listener on
(35:59):
where it all begins for theirtomorrow?
Today?
Melanie B. (36:04):
Well, I mean light a candle and be quiet.
I've never heard it quite saidthat way, but that is perfect,
yeah you heard it first onGranddaughter Crows.
It's perfect because it's allabout focus.
So you know you're focusingyour energy on that flame of the
candle, you're focusing yourenergy somewhere and that's
pretty much what you need to do.
You're focusing your energy onthat flame of the candle, you're
focusing your energy somewhere,and that's pretty much what you
(36:25):
need to do.
If you're starting whether it'sa professional practice or
whether you're just starting totune into your own intuitive
abilities, your own intuitivegifts, you need to focus on that
yourself.
You need to focus on whatyou're trying to open up to and
you need to be open to thepossibility and open to the
(36:48):
messages that you're eitherreceiving or that you're going
to receive.
Because if you're not open andyou're closed off and you're
like this, you know like whetherit's metaphorically or whether
it's literal, if you're likethis to the universe, you know
you're not going to get anything.
And if you do get stuff, it'sgoing to be kind of corrupted a
little bit because you're sokind of standoffish.
(37:09):
So the biggest thing for me isto be open and then, as you said
, you know, kind of focus yourenergy.
You can focus it in any way youwant.
If lighting a candle andstaring at that candle works for
you?
Yes.
If you know, looking at andfocusing on a big giant crystal
works for you, yes, do that.
(37:30):
You know there's no right orwrong.
It's about you and it's aboutwhat makes you feel comfortable.
It's about what makes you feellike you're connecting.
But, as you said, you knowyou're focusing your energy on
being open, being open to themessages, being open to the
(37:52):
possibilities, being open to,whether it's, you know, strictly
intuitive information orshamanic information that you
know you're receiving from theearth, from the energies around
you, from your ancestors,whether it's, you know, hoodoo
stuff that you know it'spracticed and, you know, passed
down in generations.
(38:13):
I'm getting goosebumps becauseit can be whatever you're drawn
to, you know you don't have to,you don't have to label it,
especially in the beginning.
You don't have to box yourselfin.
It doesn't have to be one thing.
It can be a mix of everythingwhich you know.
You mentioned at the beginningthat I'm certified in so many
different modalities, and I am,and that's because I was
(38:35):
exploring what felt right to me.
And what feels right to youright now may not be the same
thing that's going to feel rightto you in a year from now or in
five years from now, becauseyou're not supposed to stay
stuck, you're supposed to expandand you're supposed to learn
what feels right.
And I'm a little jealous of youthat you get to interview all
these amazing people from allthese different areas.
(38:58):
You know, we're all kind ofpart of the same coin, but it's
the other side, it's the flipside, and it's all these
different people that can bringyou information in so many
different ways.
But essentially, we're alldoing this because it's bringing
something to us.
It's bringing that knowledge,that awareness, that wisdom and
(39:19):
opening and being open to thatknowledge and that wisdom is
huge.
And if you can find somebody topractice with a friend more
power to you, like that's evenbetter.
And not because the friend isgoing to necessarily make you
more psychic or more intuitive,but it's going to make it fun,
it'll make you open up and it'llmake it fun for you and it
(39:42):
won't feel like it's work, itwon't feel like it's difficult,
it makes it fun.
And they don't even have to beinto it, by the way.
You know you could just usethem to work for yourself, to do
it for yourself, and it makesit more fun, it makes it more
enjoyable.
Not that tuning into yourintuition isn't because for me
it's my favorite thing in theworld to do.
(40:02):
You know I love to do that, Ilove to do readings.
I'd love to write about it andteach other people how to do it,
but it makes it more fun.
So, opening up, being open tothe wisdom of the universe in
whichever way feels right to you, whichever way you receive it
and we didn't even talk aboutthe clairs, but you know
clairvoyance clear sight, clearaudience, clear hearing, clear
(40:23):
sentience, clear feeling, clearcognizance, just that knowing.
Clear aliens, smelling or clearolfactory it's also called
clear gustants, it's that taste.
You can be receiving symbolicinformation.
You can be receiving othertypes of information through all
of these different senses.
Any sense that you havephysically you can be using
(40:44):
intuitively.
So being open to receivinginformation in all of those
different ways and notdiscounting the information
you're getting, not judging itis huge.
And, like I said, grab a friend, do it with somebody else,
because it's always more fun.
It's more fun doing it hands-on.
It just makes for a better timeto tune in.
Granddaughter Crow (41:04):
I love that and, once again, real life
intuition, where Melanie does gointo all of those different
gifts and everything.
Pick up that book.
But you know, the last thingthat I would add is exactly what
you just started saying.
And then hands on, thenactually go out and do an action
(41:27):
in accordance to theinformation that you receive,
the positive information thatyou received.
So, for example, last year Iwas sitting here with Melanie on
screen and she says I wassitting here with Melanie on
screen and she says you could doa podcast that is true, you
should do a podcast is what Isaid.
Melanie B. (41:48):
Oh you should do a podcast.
Granddaughter Crow (41:51):
Perfect.
Yeah, see, I love it.
Sorry, no, I love that.
I love that you should do apodcast, because you just did.
You know it was that and Icould have gone.
Oh wow, what a blessing.
I'm recognized.
I feel really cool about myself.
That conversation went well,doot-de-doot-de-doo, and I could
(42:15):
have went down my road and donenothing about it and we'd be
back on screen today and Melaniewould be like again, you should
do a podcast.
So it's kind of like whathappened was it spoke to my soul
.
It spoke to my inner chills, mytickling, my goosebumps, and it
(42:38):
still is.
I mean, you might be able tosee a goose bump or two, but at
the end of the day, I took myfree will with that information,
followed the curiosity and tookaction.
Take action, people, where itall began means nothing unless
(42:59):
you take action on where it allbegins.
Let it begin with you today.
So maybe you are just curiousabout crystals, intuition, the
cosmos, astrology or whatever.
It doesn't even have to bespiritual.
In context it could be.
(43:19):
I'm curious about babyboutiques or children's
boutiques.
Follow that, because not allspiritual workers are, you know,
certified, licensedda-da-da-da-da practitioners A
lot.
The majority of the spiritualworker works in the regular
(43:42):
mundane world and smiles at you,delivers your mail.
Um, is the police officer thatshows up with a car accident?
Is the you know person at thegrocery store?
Is the person I mean?
There's so many spiritualworkers out there.
Let's light like, let's lightlike.
(44:02):
Let our light recognize theirlight, because like recognize
like and light recognizes light.
Let's see if my enunciationtranslates on a podcast.
So, anyway, what do you thinkabout that, melanie?
Do you have any final words tosay to the listening audience?
Melanie B. (44:23):
Well, I think what you just said is absolutely
correct.
We're all not going to beprofessional psychics, we're not
all supposed to go out and doreadings for everybody else, but
we are all supposed to be opento our own intuitive nudges, our
own intuitive hunches.
And no matter how you feelabout that, no matter how it
(44:46):
resonates within you, it's yourreality.
And just because you know I'mdoing this professionally and
I'm writing books with itdoesn't mean that the next
person in line is supposed to doprofessionally or is supposed
to write books with it.
It doesn't mean that what I dois the same thing as
granddaughter crow, because it'snot.
Um, you know, our, our livesand our work crosses over, and
(45:11):
it does that for a reasonbecause, again, there's so many
different modalities out there.
There's so many different waysto learn and to tune into the
universe and to what theuniverse is trying to help us
learn and help us understand.
It's what resonates with you.
So you know, going back to thepodcast, when I said you should
(45:31):
absolutely should do a podcastbecause you're amazing, it
resonated with you and so, asyou said, you ran with it
because it did.
It resonated with you and so,as you said, you ran with it
because it did, it resonatedwith you.
Yes, it was great, it wasflattering, it was, you know, oh
, thank you so much, but itresonated with you, otherwise
you wouldn't have gone with it,and that's what people have to
(45:54):
learn to do.
If it resonates with you, thenit's good for you.
If it's something that's notresonating with you, then it's
probably not a good directionfor you to go, regardless of
what it is.
And that's also one of thethings that I tell all my
clients, as I'm doing.
You know, I have like thiswhole spiel when I first start,
because it helps me to kind oftune into them, and one of the
things I say is you know, let meknow if it resonates with you,
(46:14):
because if it resonates with you, then it makes total sense and
we're in the same kind of flow,if sense and we're in the same
kind of flow.
If it doesn't resonate with you, then I'll try and tune in a
little bit differently, becausemaybe I'm not hearing things the
right way or seeing things theright way or feeling things the
right way or knowing things theright way.
And again, remember thatvalidation thing, you know, ask
for validation, ask for theinformation to come in a
(46:35):
different way and just see whereyou feel the best, see where
you feel right, see where youfeel like you're resonating with
it.
Again, it could be shamanism, itcould be, you know, psychic
development.
It could overlap, it could be,you know, I used to teach a
class with somebody and we didthat the angels in the earth,
(46:58):
you know.
So you had shamanism and thenyou had the angelic realm and
two different things.
But we're teaching essentiallythe same thing.
We're teaching how to tune in,and that's what.
Granddaughter Crow (47:10):
That's what people need to do is tune in yep
and tune in to belief being andbeyond podcast wherever you get
your podcast, and ongranddaughter crow on youtube,
youtube.
Melanie B. (47:22):
I couldn't help it, melanie, that was just oh, that
was perfect, segue you did.
That was amazing.
Granddaughter Crow (47:28):
So, anyway, more wonderful.
Here's to another year ofbelief being and beyond, and
blessings to all of thelisteners.
Please like subscribe.
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(47:53):
come out of your witch closet orbroom closet, or you can't be
the shaman, or you can't becauseyou have this, just send me,
I'll go in there and get it foryou.
I'll go get the information foryou.
I'll find somebody.
We're going to have so manywonderful people on the show.
Please follow for more andshare if you think that this
(48:15):
will bless somebody else.
I just love bringing greatpeople to great people, talking
about a bunch of differentbelief systems and knowing that
belief systems and knowing thatbelief systems constitute how
you behave in the world, andthere's always something more.
Let's continue to grow.
I love you, I love you.
I love you.
You are loved.
See you on the flippity flip.
Welcome to Belief being and Beyond with
your host, granddaughter Crow.
Hi everyone, granddaughter Crowhere for yet another episode of
Belief being and Beyond when itAll Began.
So, in this special episode,where did the Belief being and
(00:21):
Beyond podcast begin?
I have Melanie Barnum herewhere it all began, and then
we're going to talk to Melanieabout where she all began.
Anyway, listeners, I want togive Melanie she's been on my
show before, but I need to giveher a proper introduction
because she is amazing.
So Melanie Barnum is a personalhealer, a teacher and an author
(00:46):
.
She's written nine books, stillplugging away working on
another one.
Melanie's sole intention is tojoyfully help others to connect
to their gifts, understand whothey are, discover their
greatness and heal themselvesthrough clarity and wisdom.
Wwwmelaniebarnumcom.
(01:08):
That's wwwmelaniebarnumcom.
Melanie.
Welcome back to the show forour one-year anniversary show
for our one year anniversary.
Melanie B. (01:28):
That's crazy to think about that One year.
This started for you like oneyear ago, and I was so blessed
to be here for the beginning.
I love this.
Granddaughter Crow (01:35):
In truth, I didn't know.
It was the beginning when wewere here exactly one year ago,
same date we recorded.
I didn't know, I just rememberbeing.
This is the inception story ofBelief, being and Beyond.
Of course, I have the bookBelief, being and Beyond by
Granddaughter Crow healing fromharmful belief systems,
(01:56):
deconstructing ideas andbecoming your authenticity,
which is what I am all about.
And so then I was like hey,melanie, can you hop on zoom and
we can record so I can get somelike social media content.
And I said you got a new bookcoming out, you know.
And it was like oh, you know.
(02:17):
Well, yeah, what is it?
Real life?
Intuition is what it was.
Melanie B. (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, that was my latest.
Granddaughter Crow (02:24):
Yeah, yeah that was released one year ago
this month, and um, so we hop onzoom, I start talking about
melanie, her book, asking authorquestions in the middle, and
you guys have to go back andcheck out the initial
conversation, because at thatpoint I didn't know it was a
(02:47):
podcast, right?
So Melanie's like oh, andyou're my fourth podcast.
Oh, I've been on four podcasts,you know, today or yesterday,
today or whatever, and you're myfourth.
And of course I am animprovisational speaker.
I go with the flow.
I'm like yay, I'm her fourthpodcast.
(03:08):
But in the back of my mind I'mlike what do you mean Podcast?
We're just recording.
And so I just went through therest of the show and after I
turned it off, melanie looked atme and was like that my dear
was a podcast, put it on YouTube, call it belief being and
(03:32):
beyond.
And I did.
And here we are a year later,melanie, what do you think about
that?
I mean, did you even know?
Like, was that just yourintuition?
Like what?
Melanie B. (03:47):
Well, I mean, I'm getting tingly.
Those of you that know anythingabout me know that you know
when my intuition is beingvalidated or when there's
something happening that needsvalidation or there's visitors
from the other side that arecoming through to let us know
that what we're talking about iseither true and accurate or
that spirit is present or both.
(04:07):
And I'm getting itchy on myhead I don't have any bugs and
I'm getting so tingly everywhereon my arms I have goosebumps
everywhere.
So to me, immediately, youasking me that that's total
validation.
And, yes, I knew this was goingto happen for you and I
remember the conversation and Iremember you saying, no, I'm not
(04:28):
doing a podcast.
And I said, yeah, I really, Ireally think you're good at this
and you really should do thisand have other authors and other
people on your podcast.
And you did just that and youmade such a difference in so
many people's lives already andyou've just begun.
I mean, you've been doing thisfor one year and you've just a
difference in so many people'slives already and you've just
begun.
I mean you've been doing thisfor one year and you've just
(04:49):
begun.
That's it.
And it's amazing the peoplethat you're reaching already and
the people that you're helpingwith this podcast.
It's fantastic and I am sopleased and so blessed that I am
here for your one yearanniversary Now, I know it's
going to take a little while, soit's probably not going to be
posted yet on your actual or onour actual one year anniversary,
(05:10):
but this is amazing.
It's amazing and it's, yes, veryintuitive and you knew also, it
clicked with you Also, itresonated with you also, because
you're also very intuitive.
So, yeah, it makes total sense.
Granddaughter Crow (05:24):
It was crazy for me because, in a very
strange way, although this isyour second appearance on Belief
, being and Beyond podcast, forme it's officially your first,
because the last time I didn'teven know that's what we were
doing and I absolutely Cheers tothat.
Cheers to that.
Yeah, I got my little waterbottle.
(05:45):
I reused my Gatorade bottle andjust put water in it perfect.
So what's really interesting isthat from there, people you
know, you hear the intro welcometo believe, being and beyond,
with your host, granddaughtercrow.
Yeah, that's my voice.
It is A lot of people are likewho did you hire to do that?
(06:13):
But it was just snuggling up tothe little microphone and going
welcome to another episode, andthe rest has just been so
playful.
Like you said, I've had amazingauthors about voodoo, about
hoodoo, about, you know, openingyour mind, about healing the
ancestors, about crystals, aboutangelums, about manifestation,
(06:38):
about angels, akashic Records Imean Divine Dirt.
There's so many.
I did take a little bit of timeoff at the end of last year, in
2024.
However, I still managed to getalmost 50 podcasts out.
(07:00):
That's crazy and have had.
So it's on YouTube likesubscribe and share, but also I
have it anywhere.
That's crazy Asia, we'relooking at Russia, we're looking
(07:23):
at Africa.
I mean all around the world,and I just want to say thank you
, thank you, thank you,listeners.
I hope that you enjoy.
I want to know what you guys doin year two, like what do you
want me to bring on?
I have so many fun things.
We talk about the shadow, wetalk about all these things, but
(07:45):
I really want to hear from youlisteners.
That would be the best giftever.
Put a comment in, send me anemail.
Connect with me on Messenger.
Text the show.
Yeah, if you are listening tothis on a podcast, scroll down,
text the show.
I will see your text.
I won't know who you are.
(08:05):
I'll know the general vicinitythat your area code comes from,
but otherwise you can stayanonymous.
Or let me know who you are.
Text the show.
I'd love some feedback.
So, melanie, thank you so muchfor like literally going well,
that was a podcast.
Well, you can do it.
And I was like wow, going well,that was a podcast, well, you
(08:25):
can do it.
And I was like wow, and shortlyafter that, within 10 days I
had it up on the air and nowit's on wherever you get
podcasts.
So that's like where it allbegan and now we're a year from
that.
In the spirit of where it allbegan, it all began in your
intro.
I said that you were like abusiness accountant.
(08:47):
Now, to me, business andaccounting is everything adds up
.
One plus one equals two.
I've got business degrees, Iget it.
And then, all of a sudden,intuitive author of almost 10
books now just give it a minute.
Author of almost 10 books, nowjust give it a minute.
(09:10):
Like Reiki practitioner,certified in hypnosis.
Certified in blah blah,whatever you could be certified
in spiritually, melanie iscertified in.
Check out our website,wwwmelaniebarnhamcom.
So anyway, where did it allbegin for you?
With jumping from business andaccounting to being an
international award winningauthor sitting on the Believe
(09:31):
being and Beyond show with yourhost, granddaughter Crowe.
Melanie B. (09:34):
Who's also an international award winning
author, by the way.
Granddaughter Crow (09:42):
I am.
That wasn't a prediction.
Melanie B. (09:43):
That actually happened, yeah.
So it's interesting becauseI've always been intuitive, I've
always been able to read people, but I didn't know that
everybody didn't do that.
I thought that that was just anormal thing.
As I got older, I was as yousaid, I was in business, I was
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the controller of a company andI left there to open a
children's store and myintuition essentially just told
me this is what you need to donow.
And it's so funny because Iremember thinking back and it's
just about a year into having mychildren's consignment store
and I remember thinking backthat Years and years ago I must
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have been a teenager.
I had seen myself like owning achildren's or owning a clothing
store, like a boutique, and Iwas kind of like, why would I do
that?
You know I love clothes, I lovekids, but that's not.
You know, I don't ever want totravel to like New York to be a
buyer.
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I don't want.
That's not who I am.
But I saw myself owning achildren's store and I saw a lot
of colors.
Or I saw myself owning aboutique I'm sorry and I saw a
lot of colors in it.
And it didn't click until I wasabout a year into owning my
children's store that this isexactly what I had seen, and so
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my intuition was kind of playingout a little bit more.
It was kind of flaring up alittle bit more.
Didn't really think twice aboutit, I was still kind of like,
okay, whatever.
And then one day I was at homeand I was holding my newborn
baby in my arms and I felt likesomebody hit me over the head
and I heard the words you needto do this work now.
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And you know, I just gotgoosebumps again, validation
that that was correct.
Um, and so I kind of, you know,looked around and was like no,
uh-uh, like what are you talkingabout?
And no, I'm not doing this worknow.
And, by the way, this work nowmeant nothing to me because I
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wasn't doing any intuitive work,I wasn't doing any of this
stuff.
So the fact that they said theybeing my guides on the other
side said you need to do thiswork now, and I knew instantly
what they were talking about.
I knew that I needed to startdoing professional psychic work
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and I kind of laughed and saidno, you know, no, that's not
going to happen, I'm not doingthat.
You know totally the other sideof the brain at work here Like,
nope, not going to do it, and Ialways screw that up the left
and right brain.
Which side is the creative,intuitive side versus which side
is the business, analyticalside?
Granddaughter Crow (12:29):
I'll give you how I see it Left logic, ok,
right, creative yeah.
And then the right hemispheretakes over the left side of the
body and the left side does, butleft logic is how I remember
because I refer to that Perfect.
Melanie B. (12:46):
Yeah, I always forget, I have to look it up all
the time.
But yeah, so I was very leftbrained, you know.
Very logical, I was thecontroller of a company,
actually not just a businessperson.
I was the controller of acompany and I left there to open
my own children's boutique, myown children's boutique, and I
was literally standing in mydining room holding my baby and
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I was like this can't be real,this can't be happening.
Why would they tell me I haveto do this work now?
But at the same time, Iinstantly knew, and I knew with
every fiber of my being, thatthey were right and this is,
this was my path and it totallychanged our lives.
My husband's, my baby, my soonto be baby after that totally
changed our lives, totallychanged everything about me and
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who I was, so that I needed tokind of set out to learn
everything I could aboutintuition and how it worked,
because I was very right andleft brained at the same time.
So I knew that I had to havesome kind of a background.
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So I started taking classes inintuitive development.
I took everything you couldpossibly imagine from people
that taught at continuing edclasses at high schools, and you
know people that taught atcontinuing ed classes at high
schools and you know people thatyou've never heard of.
I went to their classes and Ialso took classes from pretty
famous people authors and youknow people that have been on TV
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, and I realized right away thatthis made sense.
So you know, almost threedecades later, here I am and it
took me a while to say, okay, Ican hang a shingle and say I am
a psychic.
In the beginning, when I wasstudying and when I was learning
and I was doing this for, like,I said probably a year, a year
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and a half before, I reallythought that this was real and
that I needed to do this, and Isaid, okay, hon, like we need to
change my career here, like ithas to actually happen.
I was offering free readings.
Now we're going way back tolike dial up AOL on the computer
and everything was a lot slower.
And you had the green lettersand I started doing.
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I offered free readings backthen and I just remember
thinking that, wow, this is kindof crazy that the readings I'm
giving these people are comingtrue and you know what I'm
seeing and what I'm feeling andwhat the symbolic information
I'm receiving was real for themand it was real for me.
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And I was able to validate andvalidate the information I was
getting, but also get validationthat what I was doing was where
I was supposed to be.
And, you know, fast forward alittle bit.
Like I said, I have a privatepractice now.
I've been practicing for almostthree decades and I also before
my mom passed way.
I also before my mom passed way, way back in 2007, who, I think
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, helps me, by the way.
Yeah, so before my mom passed,she always used to say because
we're, our whole family, areavid readers, and she always
used to say you know, we allhave at least one good book in
us.
And I said, ok, and all of asudden it just hit me like I
need to write a book.
And so that's what started that.
So, 2012, my first book, theBook of Psychic Symbols, came
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out.
And what was interesting aboutthat as well is that, you know,
generally People submit theirbooks to multiple places and
multiple people.
Whether they're agents, whetherthey're publishing firms,
whatever it may be, peoplesubmit to so many places and
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they get rejection letters.
You know, it's reality, ithappens.
But when I decided to write abook and I tuned in.
I tuned into the spine on thebook because I wanted to see
whether there was a logo there.
And I tuned in and I saw thelogo of the moon, which was
Llewellyn.
I had to look it up.
I had to go to the library orgo to the bookstore, I think,
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and look and see what logo thatwas.
And it was Llewellyn.
And I said there's no wayLlewellyn is going to A publish
me but B publish my first everbook.
But I knew it and I told myhusband I need to just send it
to them and nobody else.
And that's exactly what I didand they picked up my first book
and I've been with them eversince.
Granddaughter Crow (17:15):
Yeah, so amazing.
I mean, there's so manywonderful things that you said
in there.
One I do want to talk aboutsomething that you said that I
thought was so poignant and Iwant to like talk about it.
You said that your psychicintuition flared up.
I really enjoy that there's somany morsels.
(17:38):
But I kind of want to go backto that because we have a lot of
listeners who are getting theflare-ups.
Like what does that look like?
I mean, it's like some of usget hit over the head.
It flares up.
Some of us are like we can'tget away from it.
Talk to us a little bit aboutwhat is the flare-up, or what
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have you experienced around theflare-up?
Because it's so cute, it's notlike, oh, and then a little
special genie came to me andtapped me on the forehead, my
eye opened and I started mybusiness.
Sometimes it's a little bitmore like a flare up.
Melanie B. (18:14):
Mm, hmm.
So, like I said, I mean, thereal first thing that made me
believe that I needed to do thiswas I felt like I was hit over
the head.
But then, along the way, as Iwas learning about intuition and
I was, you know, doing allthese exercises and trying all
these different things and goingto all these workshops, and
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every time I felt like, you know, that was a flare up for me.
Like every time I took aworkshop, I felt like the energy
of all the people that weredoing this would bring up the
energy in me and around me.
And I'm getting goosebumpsagain.
Validation, and it was allowingmy intuition to build and to
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grow.
And those aha moments.
That's like the flare-ups.
It's those aha moments whereyou say, excuse my language, but
you say, holy shit, like didthat really just happen?
Did I really just do that?
Did that really just did I tunein?
And how did I get that?
It's those kinds of momentsthat we all are intuitive.
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We're all, you know, by ourbirthright.
We're all intuitive, naturally.
But when we get those ahamoments, we are like wow.
And you know, we've talkedabout this before.
Almost three decades later, youknow, practicing professionally
, and I still get those ahamoments and I still say wow,
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still get those aha moments andI still say wow.
And to me, the more aha momentsyou have as a practicing
psychic or just using your ownintuition, the more aha moments
you have, the more you connectwith your intuition, the more
aha moments you'll continue tohave and it'll grow and there'll
be that flare up that thatamazing.
Oh my God, I feel so psychic, Ifeel so intuitive this month,
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like how a journal Get a journaland write it down.
Granddaughter Crow (20:25):
Write down.
I had this strange dream, thisweird thought came to my head
Like, what else would youjournal about?
Like Melanie, because I see yougoing yes, journal, journal,
journal.
What do you got to say aboutthe journals?
Melanie B. (20:38):
So just about every single book that I write.
I talk about journaling and I'mnot just sitting there saying
that you have to write down likea diary.
You know, like this happened,that happened, this happened,
that happened.
That's not what I'm talkingabout when I talk about
journaling.
What I'm saying is if somethingcomes to you, you know and it's
symbolic which which, to me,symbolism is inside, it's kind
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of intangible, you can't touchit, whereas signs are external.
So if it's something that'ssymbolic, or even that, if it's
something that's a sign, writeit down, because symbols are how
the universe talks to us quiteoften and it's because they try
and send us information in thebest way possible.
Send us information in the bestway possible.
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They try and give usinformation whether it's your
higher self, or your loved oneson the other side, or your
guides, or your angels, or youknow, whoever you believe in.
I call it the universe.
So when the universe is tryingto send you information, they'll
send it to you in a way thatmakes it easiest for you to
understand.
So you know, if you couldimagine hearing one word and not
just having that one word, meanthat one word.
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It means it's like getting awhole paragraph of information
in one word, and that's thestuff that you really need to
write down.
Those are the aha moments.
Those are the symbols, becausethey will, moving forward now
know the universe, your guides,your loved ones.
They will, moving forward nowknow the universe, your guides,
your loved ones.
They'll know that they can sendyou that symbol and it will
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relate and you'll be able tounderstand it instantly.
So when you create your ownsymbols journal or your own
intuitive journal, then you'reable to go back to it.
You know there's so many peoplewe have so many common symbolic
messages that come through andfor everybody.
You know there's so many peoplewe have so many common symbolic
messages that come through.
And for everybody you knowthere's, there's common ones,
there's ones that we allunderstand.
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You know, if we see and I usethis example all the time if we
see a stop sign, we know itmeans stop, right, right.
But if you see and again, I usethis all the time when I see,
if I'm doing a reading forsomebody, and I see a baseball
diamond, you would instantlythink, ok, that person plays
baseball, or that person isconnected to baseball in some
way, or the person that passedis connected to baseball, and
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that may be very well be thecase.
So when I tell people recognizeyour symbols, don't discount
that it could be a literaltranslation or it could be
something literal, right.
But when I see a baseballdiamond, a literal translation,
or it could be something literal, right.
But when I see a baseballdiamond, it's a reference to a
mother, because it's a referenceto my mom.
I know it sounds strange and mymom didn't even like baseball
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until the very end of her life.
So it sounds, I get goosebumpsagain.
So it sounds really interestingor really strange when you
think about how far out in leftfield, literally, you know that
that symbol could be for you.
And that's why keeping ajournal is so important and
that's why you know, as you said, writing stuff down, writing
down the flare ups and whathappened, and writing down the
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aha moments, and writing downwhat it means, or even what you
were doing when you receivedwhat you think was an intuitive
nudge.
Granddaughter Crow (23:45):
I love it.
So I love that you talk about,the more that you engage and get
that confirmation, the morethat you know that you're in the
flow and you're connected withsomething, because that's just
true and I love that.
And then it also on the otherside.
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I've heard that self-doubt isthe arch nemesis of the magician
.
Self-doubt is arch nemesis ofthe magician.
So all of us have our good,healthy.
So all of us have our good,healthy, heaping share of
self-doubt.
You know why?
Because we are human living onEarth.
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You know Exactly.
And yet when you write andjournal things down, you're just
like but the proof is in thepudding, you know, and I love
that.
I love that and I love thisbecause when I talk about what
you're talking about, thisintuitive thing, this journal,
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this dialogue, I call it yourpersonal psychic dictionary and
I'm just like you know, maybewhen you were young and you
weren't feeling good and you hada stomach ache and a fever, and
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your caregiver came up to youand gave you a cherry popsicle
and said don't worry, I know youdon't feel good now, but
everything will be okay.
And so then in a weird way,your psyche like recognizes
cherry popsicle with I'm notfeeling good, I am being watched
over, that's okay, it'll beokay.
So, in a psychic read, then ifI'm like sitting there and I see
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a cherry popsicle yeah, maybethe person likes cherry
popsicles, just had one theliteral translation I get hung
up on sometimes, but usuallyI'll just look at them and say I
know that you might not befeeling well right now, but I'm
just here to tell you that youare being watched over and
everything will be okay, thiswill pass.
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And then it's just like oh well, okay.
And yet the literal translationsare so hilarious to me because
I'm trying to read into whatdoes this mean?
What does this mean?
And then I'm just like well,here, let me just show you, I'm
seeing this.
And they're like oh, you know,I'm like I see a bunch of coins
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and I thought, you know, and hewas like oh well, I just came
from trading in a bunch of goldcoins and it's just like oh, so
that was just residual energy.
So the more that you journal,the more that you get used to
how you are perceiving into thisdialogue, and the more that
they know that you are gettingtheir messages, the more it
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becomes a dialogue and not justa one-way conversation where
they're saying a bunch of stuffto you but you get to turn
around and go wait.
But what did that mean?
Or, you know, you get to talkto them a little bit more of a
dialogue.
Could you talk to us about likedialogue with spirit, and are
we allowed to ask questions oncewe get a sign that we might not
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understand Right?
Melanie B. (26:56):
So what's interesting to me is I'm going
to first talk about imaginationbecause, like you said,
self-doubt it's so common tohave doubt about what you're
receiving and to think that it'syour imagination, and sometimes
it is your imagination.
But what I tell people all thetime is that you have to be able
to imagine things in order toreceive things.
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If you can't hear, feel, see,know, taste, smell things with
your imagination, then you can'treceive any type of you know,
symbolic or intuitive messages,because your imagination will
block it off.
You won't be able to do that.
So it's important to use yourimagination.
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But that also opens us up thento the self-doubt.
So if you're not sure what youjust got, or what the message
may mean that you think you haveor that you think you're
getting, ask for validation, askfor something else, ask.
You can ask your guides, yourloved ones, spirit.
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You can ask the universe giveme something more.
Yeah, let me know that I'm onthe right track here.
You know.
Validate it for me by showingme another symbol or another
sign externally.
You know, give me somethingmore, something I can work with,
and you know if, if you wereasking and I can't even think of
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a good example.
But if you were asking, you know, should I take this new job or
should I not take this new job?
And all of a sudden another joboffer comes in and you're like,
oh wait, should I go for thatjob?
And then you see a stop sign.
Like I said before, well, thestop sign now could be applying
to either one of those jobsYou're not quite sure which one
is which now could be applyingto either one of those jobs.
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You're not quite sure which oneis which.
But then if you ask forvalidation and say it was, you
know, being a nurse at thishospital versus at this school,
and all of a sudden you see abunch of little kids running
around, then they're directingyou to go be a nurse at the
school.
Granddaughter Crow (28:57):
Yeah.
Melanie B. (28:57):
Right, yeah, so if you ask for validation, you
usually get it, and it may nothappen instantly.
It may not happen right away,it may take a day or two, it may
even take a week.
Yeah, because maybe you don'tneed to make that decision yet,
you don't need to choose yet.
Yeah, maybe neither one isright for you, so you're not
going to get that validationright away.
Yeah, but if you ask forvalidation, the universe will
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provide it in one way or another.
The, the universe will provideit.
So, in order to get past kindof that self-doubt, get past
that fear that it's just yourimagination, ask for more.
Granddaughter Crow (29:37):
Because somebody, when I was teaching a
class on meditation andintuition and psychic
development, you know that wasone of those questions that come
up quite often, like is this myimagination or is this my
intuition?
And I find that a verybeautiful question, because they
are sisters, like you said,it's kind of they're sisters.
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And so then what I say to themis who is driving your
imagination at this moment?
Are you driving it is asituation in the past or did you
connect with the divine andyou're asking for the divine to
give you?
So then, because it feels a lotlike what do you think?
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So I'm like surrender yourimagination at certain times and
allow those pictures.
So for me, I have an agreement.
I do one-on-one sessions and Istill continue to do that.
And one thing when you come intoa one-on-one session with
Granddaughter Crow, the firstthing I do is like hi, blah,
blah, blah, when's your birthday?
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Blah, blah, blah.
I do is like hi, blah, blah,blah, when's your birthday?
Blah, blah, blah.
And then I say, okay, let's setsacred space.
And then I say welcome intothis space, welcome into this
time which is centering somebodyright there.
Leave everything else, we arehere now.
And then I say I draw a circlearound the space, around this
time, declaring it a sacredspace.
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Draw a circle around this spacearound this time, declaring it
a sacred space.
So now only sacred things cancome into that space.
And it's an agreement betweenme, spirit and the person who
came into the session.
And then I say I set my ego tothe outside, or my fun
imagination to the outside, soI'm not projecting onto them.
Oh, you remind me of my onefriend, shannon.
(31:22):
You must be really fun, and Idon't project my old memory onto
them.
And then I say, and I openmyself up as a conduit, that
will be the divine as it revealsitself to you, which, moreover,
goes to your point, like maybeit's your guides, maybe it's
your ancestors, maybe it's likemaybe it's your guides, maybe
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it's your ancestors, maybe it'syour angels, maybe it's the
aliens, whatever it is theuniverse, I call it the divine
as it reveals itself to you,because it reveals itself to me
differently, like all the time,the more I grow, it changes and
shifts, and I don't put it in abox, and so, and then I'm just
like to provide you with themost beneficial information that
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you need today, because youknow what you may need to hear
something different tomorrow orin a year, and so that's kind of
my way and that's one of myagreements.
So then, in short, I'm turningover my imagination to the
divine in that scenario.
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So what do you think about that?
Melanie B. (32:26):
That's a lot.
No, I think it's perfect.
I think it's perfect and Idon't know if you notice, but
I'm like itching.
I'm itching my head, I'mmessing with my hair.
It's not because I have bugs, Iswear.
There's nothing jumping outother than you know.
My hair is thinning quitedrastically, but besides that
there's there's nothing jumpingout other than you know.
My hair is thinning quitedrastically, but besides that,
there's nothing jumping out.
It's just that what you'resaying is being validated by my
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guides, by my universe.
So what you're talking aboutmakes total sense.
You know you're asking for notonly your client to be present,
but also you to be present soyou can be a conduit, so that
you can be there to share theinformation that you're getting.
And it makes total sense to meIf you're not prepared to be
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present for your client or forwhoever you're reading for,
it'll never work.
You won't get the information.
Yeah, so it makes total senseto me.
Granddaughter Crow (33:21):
I love it.
So, once again, melanie Barnum,just wwwmelaniebarnumcom.
Books, card decks, one-on-onesessions, just so many, so many
things to connect.
And if you didn't, so many, somany things to connect.
(33:45):
And if you didn't, if you don'tknow if it works, trust me.
This show came through melaniesaying oh, by the way,
granddaughter crow, this is ashow, and I was like wow and I
took that and it became alivewithin me and I have been having
so much fun getting to knowpeople and sharing information,
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asking questions that maybeothers are afraid to ask, like
what is Lumeria?
What do you mean by the AkashicRecords Is hoodoo scary If I
have a white body?
Records Is hoodoo scary If Ihave a white body.
Can I practice All of thosewonderful questions, belief
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being and beyond, bringing greatpeople to great people?
So let's just go ahead andcircle back to where it all
began and maybe kind of we'vegot where it all began with
Believe, being and Beyondpodcast.
We've got where it all began inyour story.
Let's talk a little bit aboutwhere our audience is now,
because we kind of gave themclues, journal and things like
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that.
Like get your confirmationslive, thrive, grow.
You might be a left-centrichemisphere row, you might be a
left-centric hemisphere.
I mean, I wasn't the controller, but I was the manager of
financial communications for aninternational company under
investor relations, publicrelations and media relations.
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If that isn't left-centric, Idon't know what is except for
being a controller.
But then how we ended out, kindof balancing this out.
So for the listeners, what arelittle things.
If they're going throughtransitions around, opening up
more of their intuition, maybethey are ready to make a big
(35:36):
leap.
Maybe they don't have to make abig leap, maybe it's just about
opening it up.
I would say to do journal,light a candle and be quiet, and
then journal.
I would say, be quiet.
What little other things wouldyou say along the listener on
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where it all begins for theirtomorrow?
Today?
Melanie B. (36:04):
Well, I mean light a candle and be quiet.
I've never heard it quite saidthat way, but that is perfect,
yeah you heard it first onGranddaughter Crows.
It's perfect because it's allabout focus.
So you know you're focusingyour energy on that flame of the
candle, you're focusing yourenergy somewhere and that's
pretty much what you need to do.
You're focusing your energy onthat flame of the candle, you're
focusing your energy somewhere,and that's pretty much what you
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need to do.
If you're starting whether it'sa professional practice or
whether you're just starting totune into your own intuitive
abilities, your own intuitivegifts, you need to focus on that
yourself.
You need to focus on whatyou're trying to open up to and
you need to be open to thepossibility and open to the
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messages that you're eitherreceiving or that you're going
to receive.
Because if you're not open andyou're closed off and you're
like this, you know like whetherit's metaphorically or whether
it's literal, if you're likethis to the universe, you know
you're not going to get anything.
And if you do get stuff, it'sgoing to be kind of corrupted a
little bit because you're sokind of standoffish.
(37:09):
So the biggest thing for me isto be open and then, as you said
, you know, kind of focus yourenergy.
You can focus it in any way youwant.
If lighting a candle andstaring at that candle works for
you?
Yes.
If you know, looking at andfocusing on a big giant crystal
works for you, yes, do that.
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You know there's no right orwrong.
It's about you and it's aboutwhat makes you feel comfortable.
It's about what makes you feellike you're connecting.
But, as you said, you knowyou're focusing your energy on
being open, being open to themessages, being open to the
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possibilities, being open to,whether it's, you know, strictly
intuitive information orshamanic information that you
know you're receiving from theearth, from the energies around
you, from your ancestors,whether it's, you know, hoodoo
stuff that you know it'spracticed and, you know, passed
down in generations.
(38:13):
I'm getting goosebumps becauseit can be whatever you're drawn
to, you know you don't have to,you don't have to label it,
especially in the beginning.
You don't have to box yourselfin.
It doesn't have to be one thing.
It can be a mix of everythingwhich you know.
You mentioned at the beginningthat I'm certified in so many
different modalities, and I am,and that's because I was
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exploring what felt right to me.
And what feels right to youright now may not be the same
thing that's going to feel rightto you in a year from now or in
five years from now, becauseyou're not supposed to stay
stuck, you're supposed to expandand you're supposed to learn
what feels right.
And I'm a little jealous of youthat you get to interview all
these amazing people from allthese different areas.
(38:58):
You know, we're all kind ofpart of the same coin, but it's
the other side, it's the flipside, and it's all these
different people that can bringyou information in so many
different ways.
But essentially, we're alldoing this because it's bringing
something to us.
It's bringing that knowledge,that awareness, that wisdom and
(39:19):
opening and being open to thatknowledge and that wisdom is
huge.
And if you can find somebody topractice with a friend more
power to you, like that's evenbetter.
And not because the friend isgoing to necessarily make you
more psychic or more intuitive,but it's going to make it fun,
it'll make you open up and it'llmake it fun for you and it
(39:42):
won't feel like it's work, itwon't feel like it's difficult,
it makes it fun.
And they don't even have to beinto it, by the way.
You know you could just usethem to work for yourself, to do
it for yourself, and it makesit more fun, it makes it more
enjoyable.
Not that tuning into yourintuition isn't because for me
it's my favorite thing in theworld to do.
(40:02):
You know I love to do that, Ilove to do readings.
I'd love to write about it andteach other people how to do it,
but it makes it more fun.
So, opening up, being open tothe wisdom of the universe in
whichever way feels right to you, whichever way you receive it
and we didn't even talk aboutthe clairs, but you know
clairvoyance clear sight, clearaudience, clear hearing, clear
(40:23):
sentience, clear feeling, clearcognizance, just that knowing.
Clear aliens, smelling or clearolfactory it's also called
clear gustants, it's that taste.
You can be receiving symbolicinformation.
You can be receiving othertypes of information through all
of these different senses.
Any sense that you havephysically you can be using
(40:44):
intuitively.
So being open to receivinginformation in all of those
different ways and notdiscounting the information
you're getting, not judging itis huge.
And, like I said, grab a friend, do it with somebody else,
because it's always more fun.
It's more fun doing it hands-on.
It just makes for a better timeto tune in.
Granddaughter Crow (41:04):
I love that and, once again, real life
intuition, where Melanie does gointo all of those different
gifts and everything.
Pick up that book.
But you know, the last thingthat I would add is exactly what
you just started saying.
And then hands on, thenactually go out and do an action
(41:27):
in accordance to theinformation that you receive,
the positive information thatyou received.
So, for example, last year Iwas sitting here with Melanie on
screen and she says I wassitting here with Melanie on
screen and she says you could doa podcast that is true, you
should do a podcast is what Isaid.
Melanie B. (41:48):
Oh you should do a podcast.
Granddaughter Crow (41:51):
Perfect.
Yeah, see, I love it.
Sorry, no, I love that.
I love that you should do apodcast, because you just did.
You know it was that and Icould have gone.
Oh wow, what a blessing.
I'm recognized.
I feel really cool about myself.
That conversation went well,doot-de-doot-de-doo, and I could
(42:15):
have went down my road and donenothing about it and we'd be
back on screen today and Melaniewould be like again, you should
do a podcast.
So it's kind of like whathappened was it spoke to my soul
.
It spoke to my inner chills, mytickling, my goosebumps, and it
(42:38):
still is.
I mean, you might be able tosee a goose bump or two, but at
the end of the day, I took myfree will with that information,
followed the curiosity and tookaction.
Take action, people, where itall began means nothing unless
(42:59):
you take action on where it allbegins.
Let it begin with you today.
So maybe you are just curiousabout crystals, intuition, the
cosmos, astrology or whatever.
It doesn't even have to bespiritual.
In context it could be.
(43:19):
I'm curious about babyboutiques or children's
boutiques.
Follow that, because not allspiritual workers are, you know,
certified, licensedda-da-da-da-da practitioners A
lot.
The majority of the spiritualworker works in the regular
(43:42):
mundane world and smiles at you,delivers your mail.
Um, is the police officer thatshows up with a car accident?
Is the you know person at thegrocery store?
Is the person I mean?
There's so many spiritualworkers out there.
Let's light like, let's lightlike.
(44:02):
Let our light recognize theirlight, because like recognize
like and light recognizes light.
Let's see if my enunciationtranslates on a podcast.
So, anyway, what do you thinkabout that, melanie?
Do you have any final words tosay to the listening audience?
Melanie B. (44:23):
Well, I think what you just said is absolutely
correct.
We're all not going to beprofessional psychics, we're not
all supposed to go out and doreadings for everybody else, but
we are all supposed to be opento our own intuitive nudges, our
own intuitive hunches.
And no matter how you feelabout that, no matter how it
(44:46):
resonates within you, it's yourreality.
And just because you know I'mdoing this professionally and
I'm writing books with itdoesn't mean that the next
person in line is supposed to doprofessionally or is supposed
to write books with it.
It doesn't mean that what I dois the same thing as
granddaughter crow, because it'snot.
Um, you know, our, our livesand our work crosses over, and
(45:11):
it does that for a reasonbecause, again, there's so many
different modalities out there.
There's so many different waysto learn and to tune into the
universe and to what theuniverse is trying to help us
learn and help us understand.
It's what resonates with you.
So you know, going back to thepodcast, when I said you should
(45:31):
absolutely should do a podcastbecause you're amazing, it
resonated with you and so, asyou said, you ran with it
because it did.
It resonated with you and so,as you said, you ran with it
because it did, it resonatedwith you.
Yes, it was great, it wasflattering, it was, you know, oh
, thank you so much, but itresonated with you, otherwise
you wouldn't have gone with it,and that's what people have to
(45:54):
learn to do.
If it resonates with you, thenit's good for you.
If it's something that's notresonating with you, then it's
probably not a good directionfor you to go, regardless of
what it is.
And that's also one of thethings that I tell all my
clients, as I'm doing.
You know, I have like thiswhole spiel when I first start,
because it helps me to kind oftune into them, and one of the
things I say is you know, let meknow if it resonates with you,
(46:14):
because if it resonates with you, then it makes total sense and
we're in the same kind of flow,if sense and we're in the same
kind of flow.
If it doesn't resonate with you, then I'll try and tune in a
little bit differently, becausemaybe I'm not hearing things the
right way or seeing things theright way or feeling things the
right way or knowing things theright way.
And again, remember thatvalidation thing, you know, ask
for validation, ask for theinformation to come in a
(46:35):
different way and just see whereyou feel the best, see where
you feel right, see where youfeel like you're resonating with
it.
Again, it could be shamanism, itcould be, you know, psychic
development.
It could overlap, it could be,you know, I used to teach a
class with somebody and we didthat the angels in the earth,
(46:58):
you know.
So you had shamanism and thenyou had the angelic realm and
two different things.
But we're teaching essentiallythe same thing.
We're teaching how to tune in,and that's what.
Granddaughter Crow (47:10):
That's what people need to do is tune in yep
and tune in to belief being andbeyond podcast wherever you get
your podcast, and ongranddaughter crow on youtube,
youtube.
Melanie B. (47:22):
I couldn't help it, melanie, that was just oh, that
was perfect, segue you did.
That was amazing.
Granddaughter Crow (47:28):
So, anyway, more wonderful.
Here's to another year ofbelief being and beyond, and
blessings to all of thelisteners.
Please like subscribe.
Share Text the show.
Please like subscribe.
Share Texas show.
Please give me feedback, likeif there's something that you
want to know more about but youlive in Alabama and you can't
(47:53):
come out of your witch closet orbroom closet, or you can't be
the shaman, or you can't becauseyou have this, just send me,
I'll go in there and get it foryou.
I'll go get the information foryou.
I'll find somebody.
We're going to have so manywonderful people on the show.
Please follow for more andshare if you think that this
(48:15):
will bless somebody else.
I just love bringing greatpeople to great people, talking
about a bunch of differentbelief systems and knowing that
belief systems and knowing thatbelief systems constitute how
you behave in the world, andthere's always something more.
Let's continue to grow.
I love you, I love you.
I love you.
You are loved.
See you on the flippity flip.
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