November 29, 2022 • 28 mins
Breast cancer is currently the most common cancer globally and is the most commonly diagnosed cancer in women of the U.S. Stephanie Fletcher was one of those statistics in 2020 at the age of 40.
Now N.E.D., Coach Steph has transformed her health coaching efforts by incorporating the experience of her cancer journey so she can help others navigate their cancer paths. She shares many things she learned along the way including the importance of the whole body healing; physically, spiritually, and emotionally.
Listen in today as Coach Steph shares her experience and advice with anyone who may be on their cancer journey.
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Ivelisse Page (00:06):
Hi, I'm Ivelisse Page, and thanks for listening
to the Believe Big podcast, theshow where we take deep dive
into your healing with healthexperts, integrative
practitioners, biblical faithleaders and cancer thrivers from
around the globe.
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Welcome to today's episode onthe Believe Big podcast.
My name is Ivelisse Page andit's an honor to spend this time
with you.
Today you will hear from cancerthriver Stephanie Fletcher on
effective healing habits foranyone in a cancering process.
Stephanie is a wife to Lee of 20years and a mom to four kids,
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ranging from seven to 17 yearsold.
She graduated from AbileneChristian University with the
degree in exercise science andhas worked in health and
wellness for 23 years.
Six years ago, after anautoimmune diagnosis, Stephanie
went back to school through theInstitute of Integrative
Nutrition to get hercertification in holistic health
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coaching because she knew therewas more to health than what she
had gotten used to in theteachings for years.
Two years ago though her life asshe knew it took a pivot when
she received a breast cancerdiagnosis and embarked on the
biggest learning journey of herlife.
She is now passionate aboutwalking with other breast cancer
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patients to help them becometheir own advocates and empower
them to heal from within.
Welcome, Stephanie to the show.
Stephanie Fletcher (01:47):
Thank you so much.
I'm excited to be here.
It's awesome.
Ivelisse Page (01:50):
We always like to learn from our guests what their
favorite health tip is, and I'msure you have many, but can you
share one with us?
Stephanie Fletcher (01:58):
Oh man, I have to choose one.
I think especially in the seasonthat I'm in as a mom of four, I
think my biggest tip would be toprotect your sleep and sleep is
where our body does a lot of itshealing.
It's what our body has to have.
And I think sometimes,especially as moms, we tend to
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forego certain things in orderto make sure everything else is
done.
And that's one thing that I kindof stick to my schedule.
And even though I have twoteenagers that sometimes get
home later than me or go to bedafter me, that is just something
that I try to protect.
Ivelisse Page (02:32):
So true.
And you're not the first healthexpert that have shared that.
you're with several great peoplethat have said the same thing,
so we really need to listen tothat for sure.
Before we get into our maindiscussion on effective healing
habits, can you tell us a littlebit about how you found out you
had cancer?
Stephanie Fletcher (02:48):
Yes, actually I went in for a routine
mammogram.
So had had one at 40 years old,got my second one at 41, and
that mammogram came backabnormal.
They sent me back for asonogram.
That sonogram turned into abiopsy and a diagnosis of
lobular carcinoma.
Ivelisse Page (03:04):
And so what did you think at that time?
Because you have a similar storylike me, where I was taking care
of my body, I was exercising,eating well, and I found myself
with cancer and I realized laterwhat triggered my cancer.
Have you been able to evaluate,to discover what might have
played a role in your cancer?
Stephanie Fletcher (03:22):
Yes.
So when you said, I wentthrough, in my introduction, the
biggest learning journey of mylife, going into that diagnosis,
I did consider myself a fairlyhealthy individual, especially
in comparison to the rest of theworld.
And what I later found out, andluckily I had been going through
this journey five years priorthrough going back to school at
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IIN, I discovered that healthwas so encompassing of
spiritual, emotional, physical.
And I think sometimes we think,I'm working out and I'm eating a
lot better than the normalworld, so I'm considered
healthy.
What I found out was I'd had alot of other things going on as
far as my emotional health, mystress level, how I like to pack
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on 40,000 things at one time.
And I thought that I wasmultitasking well, which then I
found out there is no such thingas multitasking.
But I found that the hard way.
I think that through it all, Iwas able to dig back into my
family history and into just asa kid remembering always being
sick and having multiple earinfections.
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And I grew up in Franceactually.
And my parents were big onhomeopathic care.
Cause that's just what there wasback then in France.
So I think looking back therewas a lot of things that stemmed
to my diagnosis, right?
And just my terrain was actuallydeep down inside was really not
that healthy.
And so I had to go back.
Luckily I didn't have to go backto ground zero, but I had to go
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back to close to ground zero.
Ivelisse Page (04:51):
Yeah, I think so many of us focus so much on the
physical side.
You have a disease and here'show you treat it, but we don't
really focus in on thatemotional, mental aspect that
plays such a huge role in ourhealing.
That was part of my story aswell.
I was harboring on forgivenessand to God no less, and I had no
idea.
Through that process ofdiscovering that brought so much
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healing to my life.
And so, integrative orcomplimentary therapies did you
include in your protocol?
Stephanie Fletcher (05:19):
I wanna say this before we go into that
because, and I don't know if youguys knew this when I emailed
back.
Y'all were an extremely, and itmakes me tear up cuz y'all
aren't a massive organization,but your website is what led me
to where I am.
I was googling everything Ipossibly could and searching
for, what do I do?
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Because even in the holisticworld, there are tons of
different options and everyonethinks that they're right.
And so it was something aboutyour website and even part of
the resources, what to ask yourphysician when you go in and
just a calm really came over meand I started looking at what
physicians offered mistletoe,cuz mistletoe and that therapy
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made sense to me.
It was one of the very firstthings that I could, in my
holistic background and what Iknew and all that, it made sense
to me.
And so I started looking, and Idon't even know really why I
picked Durango, Colorado, but Idid.
And I knew that my husband'scousin lived there and I was at
least I have one person that Iknow in this city.
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And so I went and come to findout they were actually gone the
week that I was there, so I wasable to use their car.
But I went to Namaste with Dr.
Stacy Mulkey, and it was one ofthe biggest God-sends.
I literally wrote the whole timethat I was there, story after
story of the Durango Angels.
The hotel that I stayed at, thechef there, I was changing all
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of my eating habits and beingsuper strict and I was like,
where do I eat?
What do I do?
And the chef came out and hewas, his name is Chef Safari and
he was from Africa.
And he said, go to the storenext door and buy everything
that you can eat and I will makesomething.
And so I
Ivelisse Page (07:02):
My gosh!
Stephanie Fletcher (07:03):
Bought, all these vegetables and stuff, and
he came out and this is thatmoment where you're like, what
in the world?
And I was sitting in therestaurant by myself, and I'm a
very big extrovert, so it washard to eat by myself, but I
made friends.
He comes out with threebeautiful soups and he had
carved flowers out of the vegsand made it so special for me.
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And we're still friends to thisday.
There was those types of thingshappened all over Durango.
And they were just kinda, what Icall my first loves.
And then I ended up finding alocal, an unbelievable place
called Root Causes Medicine,which I think you've been there.
Ivelisse Page (07:43):
Yes.
They're great.
Stephanie Fletcher (07:45):
They're incredible.
And so now I get to work withDr.
Guillory at Root Causes Medicineand so I transferred.
I still talk to Doctor Stacy andall the people in Durango but,
it's just easier with my lifeand it being full to be
somewhere local and they havebeen absolutely amazing.
Ivelisse Page (07:59):
Incredible, you went to two wonderful places.
I love both of those offices andhow that chef, that's really
loving people.
He really was the hand and feetof Christ for you and you have
people praying, sure enough,God's angels did show up for you
there and that's incredible.
I know you're a person of faith,so how did that play a role in
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your journey?
Stephanie Fletcher (08:19):
I feel like I'm gonna cry like this entire
time.
Ivelisse Page (08:22):
You are able to.
Stephanie Fletcher (08:25):
So when I went and had my biopsy done, I
was actually flying out soonafter to go to Oregon and I was
speaking at a health conference.
I called my doctor and I said,hey, listen, no matter what the
results are, please do notcontact me.
I will contact you when I getback.
And she was like, really?
Usually people don't do that.
I said, I'm really not thatusual.
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Because either way, if I tellyou, don't call me if it's bad
or don't call if it's good, I'mgonna be nervous, so I'm just
gonna let it go and do my thingin Oregon.
And so we went to Oregon and Iwas staying with two very close
friends, on a house that wasright on the coast.
And it was cold, January of 2020by the way.
So we go outside and we werewalking the sea, just walking in
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the sand and enjoying thebeautiful view, but it was cold
and all of a sudden it startspouring down rain.
My two friends are like, wegotta go.
We're jetting back and we'retalking rain, like the kind that
hurts.
It's going sideways.
And so in the whole time, in mymind, I knew I needed a minute
by myself.
And so I'm like sitting heretalking to myself, like, how do
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I tell them to go inside?
But I don't want them to feelsorry for me.
I don't want them to stayoutside.
I want them to go inside.
So I was going through thiswhole thing and I was like, hey
girls, I'm gonna stay outsidefor a minute, y'all go in.
They're like, are you sure?
I was like, yep, go.
And they left.
And so I stood out there and Iwas facing the ocean, and the
waves were now like big androlling and crashing and the
rain's pelting me and I said,God, I know that I'm getting
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ready to go through a storm andthe only thing I ask is that you
go ahead of me.
And I cried.
And I stood there being peltedby rain, and then I went in.
And I think I knew at that pointwhat I was gonna go home to.
And ironically, my husband hadactually called the doctor while
I was gone.
He was wanting to call them andget good news to call me in
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Oregon and tell me everythingwas fine.
And unfortunately he found outthat I had cancer.
And so I got back in theairport, the kids were all in
bed, the house was clean.
And I was like, what ishappening right now?
I should have known at thatpoint something was wrong.
And so I get in the bath and hesays, hey Babe, I called the
doctor while you were gone.
And I was like, you did?
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Why?
He said, I was wanting to callyou in Oregon and tell you that
everything was okay, but it'snot.
You have cancer.
And I was like, am I beingpunked right now?
Is this for real?
And even though my soul hadprobably been prepared for it,
the words I was not quiteprepared for.
And so I had a moment in thebathtub.
He's a very smart man cuz heknows that's where I relax.
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Had a moment, we prayed, wetalked about it.
And then, sleep was a littlehard that night.
But then the next day we justgot to work.
And I honestly believe.
That when I said that prayer andI said, God, I asked that you go
ahead of me, everywhere Iturned, he had already gone
ahead.
In the oncologist that I chosehere, in my surgeon that I chose
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here, and Dr.
Stacy and all the angels inDurango and my friends and
family and my team, I have alarge team of men, women, and
they all just would send stuffand did a GoFundMe page for me.
And these earrings, ironically,that I have on is from a jewelry
lady that I always lovefeathers.
And she did a fundraiser andthese are called Stephanie.
Ivelisse Page (11:36):
I love it.
Stephanie Fletcher (11:37):
And people bought earrings to support.
And it was one of those thingsto where my faith was just
strengthened by the fact that Hewent ahead of me the whole time
and I physically saw thosemoments.
Ivelisse Page (11:50):
And when I hear you talk about the storm, it is
a storm that we're walking into.
The good news for us is that weknow that He can calm those
storms, and so all He has to dois speak peace, be still.
And as the story went thedisciples were on the boat and
it calmed the waters instantly.
And so He has that power to notonly hold our hands through
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those storms, but to calm them.
How did you practically calmthose storms, especially the
ones of your mind?
Stephanie Fletcher (12:20):
That's a great question.
One of the very first decisionsI made was not to Google
anything, as far as mydiagnosis.
I mean, if it was things likewhen I was looking for an
incredible breast surgery centerI was looking for things like
Believe, Big, alternativetreatments, that was fine.
But I wasn't going to dig intoanything that was causing my
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energy to go down.
My husband was the one that dida lot of that research and I
gave him that assignment.
I think immediately I thought,okay, who is going to be part of
my healing team?
And this is how I coach womenwhen they're first diagnosed.
You have to create a healingteam and you have to also
remember that that team canchange and it can morph at all
times.
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And so I just started thinking,okay who is not going to be on
my team?
But who do I want to reallysurround myself?
So I had a group of prayerwarriors that I specifically
asked to be my prayer warriorsduring this.
I have a very strong family.
We unfortunately did not have agood church family at the time
because we had just movedchurches and then COVID hit.
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But I will say that that peacecomes from surrounding yourself
with words, with people thatkeep the peace, right?
If you're surrounding yourselfwith people that are putting
fear in you, or if you'relistening to things that are
putting fear in you, then thatis gonna stir up fear.
And so I try to stay as far awayas I could from any of the
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things that really caused me alot of fear.
Ivelisse Page (13:46):
Yeah, and there's actually scientific studies that
talk about how laughter is sohealing and things that, you're
watching like the news andthings like that cause your body
to become in a stressful stateand not in a rest, and a repair
state.
So there is actually science toback what you're saying as far
as making sure you'resurrounding yourself with
positivity, people that areencouraging you and praying for
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you, and things that are fillingyou and not draining you.
So that's really good.
Can you share with us some ofthe things that you did
integratively?
I know it's different for eachperson, but if you were to pick
three or four things that youfeel were essential part of your
healing journey, what would yousay they were?
Stephanie Fletcher (14:24):
Diet was a big thing for me and honestly,
it still is.
I feel like that's morphed aswell.
For me, diet has probably beenthe hardest piece of it for me,
but a really important piece.
And I've actually watched,physically watched my blood work
change either for the worse orfor the better, depending on
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whatever diet that I wasutilizing at the time.
But to me, you can't really gowrong with plants, right?
So I'm actually not a vegan orvegetarian, but I do believe
wholeheartedly that plants canheal.
The other one was getting rid oftoxins and chemicals in my home.
So I had actually been doingthis prior to my cancer
diagnosis.
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And I was called the HealthHaven coach.
I taught people how to createhealth havens in their home, and
that looked different foreverybody.
But for me it was getting rid ofplastic in my kitchen and
getting rid of anything I put onmy body, on my face, my makeup
and my hair.
No more candles, things likethat were a big part of my
health journey.
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So trying to take my toxic leveldown so my body wasn't having to
fight so hard with other things.
And then I would say that wastwo.
Oh my goodness, how do I narrowit to three?
Oh supplementation! The veryfirst two things that I hit
strong were high dose vitamin Cand mist letoe And so I do
believe that both of those werehuge for me cause I did do four
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rounds of chemo.
I will say I chose to do chemoas a wife and a mom and not so
much as a health coach.
Because if anything were tohappen in the future, I wanted
my kids to know that I had doneeverything in their book.
But during it, I did it my way.
So I did high dose vitamin C, Ifasted, I did mistletoe, and I
did a lot of mysupplementations.
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Obviously, I didn't do all of mysupplementations during it.
But my doctor was extremelypleased in how that went.
And I love that now, myconventional oncologist, her
eyes were opened to a lot of thethings that I do.
She called me randomly and askedme what my fasting schedule was
for another patient.
That's really my goal and forall of this not to go in vain.
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To be able to bless other peoplethat are getting this diagnosis.
There is such a stigma againstcancer and right now cancer is
not going away.
I just got a text last night,another good friend, young mom,
breast cancer and lymph nodes.
She has two little boys.
So this is not going away.
I heard somebody say that I livebetween anger and passion and I
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like it.
And I think that's probably mebecause when I get those texts,
I get angry.
But my passion takes over andI'm like, Okay, so what are we
gonna do about this?
It's fine that I went through myjourney and I came out okay and
I feel like I'm healed.
But what about all these otherpeople, these other mommas and
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dads, and humans that are goingthrough this process, it doesn't
have to be this way.
I truly believe that.
And so I will speak out.
I will do what I need to do andutilize my story.
Ivelisse Page (17:27):
You really turned your challenge into
opportunities not only for eventhose around you, but for your
future and your kids seeing allthe ways that you fought and how
you incorporated both sides andhow you remain well even going
through something difficult.
So how long has it been sinceyou've been N E D or no evidence
of disease?
Stephanie Fletcher (17:48):
Actually, I had my double mastectomy in May
of 2020.
I was N E D at that point.
I actually did a cancer tumorcell test in June of that year.
I had done another one and I wasat a four.
Then I did another one rightbefore I started chemo, but I
did not get the results backuntil my second round of chemo
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and I was at a zero.
Ivelisse Page (18:12):
Wow.
Stephanie Fletcher (18:13):
And so I guess May of 2020 is when I have
been N E D and I've done likethe prenuvo scan and things like
that.
Ivelisse Page (18:21):
That's fantastic.
As a coach, I know you don'ttreat disease, so what is your
role in the cancer treatmentteam?
Stephanie Fletcher (18:28):
So my role is really accountability,
guidance and putting what thesedocs and nutritionists are
giving to the patients.
Taking it and putting it in thereal world.
It's fine to tell someone, thisis what you need to eat, this is
what you need to do.
You need to go ground for 30minutes, get your eyeballs in
the sun, blah, blah, blah.
You give that to a mom of fourand she's like, I have no idea
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how to take 471 supplements andwalk barefooted with four kids
hanging on me.
It's okay, let's look at yourday and let's see how we can
implement this stuff in whatyour life looks like.
What is possible right now?
And so I take the informationthey're given and the
instructions they're given andwe mold that into what's the
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reality for them.
And I think some of it goes totalking to someone who's been
there and who's done it.
And I think that's helpful forthem.
I have a client that only callswhen she needs me.
She knows she has 12 sessions.
It's very different.
I usually do not do this.
So she called me from thedoctor's office and she's like,
my doctor's saying this.
What do you think?
And I'm like, what is your guttelling you?
And she's I don't wanna do it.
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I'm like, then I guess that'swhat you need to tell your
doctor.
You know what you want to do soyou just do it.
And so that's what I do.
Ivelisse Page (19:39):
That's awesome.
So you help to empower them tomake informed decisions.
I love that.
Do you only help breast cancerpatients, or do you help all
cancers?
Stephanie Fletcher (19:47):
So my focus is really more breast cancer,
just because that's what I canmost relate to, and that's where
my knowledge box is in.
But I have actually had a maleclient that was not breast
cancer, I've had colon, I've hadovarian.
So I try to stick in that realm,but obviously I'm not gonna say
no to somebody.
Ivelisse Page (20:05):
So if you could have go back in time now,
knowing what you know now, whatwould you have done differently
at the start of your cancerjourney?
Is there anything you would'vedone differently?
Stephanie Fletcher (20:14):
At the beginning of my journey?
Honestly, no.
Now later on, maybe like when Idecided to have my ovaries taken
out.
I think, I wish I would've hadsome more information and dug
into it a little bit deeper, butI was on a time crunch, which is
unfortunately what happens a lotof times.
You get diagnosed and all of asudden you're on a timeline.
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And I'm like wait, how did youeven know when this clump came
together?
That is fascinating.
So I think that, there's thingsI wish that I had taken more
time.
I did take a lot of time at thebeginning and I was very strong
telling my doctors, I'm notgonna do this until whatever.
But when I came to the ovaries,I did have a surgery scheduled
and the doctor could do theovaries at the same time, and so
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I went for it.
And now looking back at it,that's the only decision I might
have thought through a littlebit more.
Ivelisse Page (21:05):
You're absolutely right.
People are put on this conveyorbelt of chemo, surgery,
radiation.
They're the sense of urgency.
They don't feel like they havetime.
And we are always telling peoplebased on what our physicians
share, which is most of the timeyou do.
They say it typically takesseven to 10 years for the cancer
to grow in the first place, forit to be visible.
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And so you have time to take twoweeks, let's say three weeks,
four weeks, to really dive intomaking sure that you're making
the best decisions for yourself.
Unless it's an acute situationlike a bowel blockage or
something like that, then youknow you can't, but, but you
typically do have time.
And I think that's one of thethings that most patients
experience is what you did.
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You're put on this timerestrictive, decision making
process.
And, when we rush and we makedecisions without really
spending the time to really lookinto it, it can make it more
difficult to feel like you'reempowered to make the right one
for yourself.
What advice would you give tosomeone who has recently been
diagnosed?
Stephanie Fletcher (22:04):
It goes back to what I just talked about,
take a breath.
I think that if we could learnto breathe and just slow down in
our process of diagnosis, thenwe have the opportunity to
listen to what our bodies aresaying.
But I think in the noise and thespeed and the fear that a lot of
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the medical community will puton us.
we just don't take the time tobreathe and to think.
We almost become theseuneducated robots.
All of a sudden, it's you getcancer and then you're like, yes
sir, yes ma'am, whatever youtell me to do, cause I just
don't wanna die.
And I'm thinking to myself,first of all, this might be news
to all y'all, but we're allgonna die at some point.
Ivelisse Page (22:48):
Yes, we all have that expiration date, my husband
says.
Stephanie Fletcher (22:51):
That's right.
Yeah.
And we all want to die, well.
But the problem is that in thatfear of not wanting to die,
we're not really living.
And we're living in this fearof, what if?
Like the fear of it coming backis a real fear for me.
And I usually can keep thatunder control.
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But there's days that I'm like,man this would suck to have to
miss this or this, and it'shard.
So what I would say is take abreath, slow down.
And if there's a doctor or anurse or anything that you do
not feel comfortable with, youhave the power to fire them.
You are paying for these people.
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You're paying for theirexpertise.
And so put yourself back in thatplace of empowerment and realize
it's okay if I don't like whatyou're saying to me and you're
putting fear in me, so I'm gonnamove on.
Cuz believe me, there are tonsof people in the medical field
that are incredible people thatare willing to work with you.
So go find someone else.
Ivelisse Page (23:52):
Yep.
That's great advice.
And that's one of the thingsthat we also share with patients
that reach out to us is thatthis person's gonna be following
you for years to come, and youwanna make sure that they are a
team player and not someone,that's my way in the highway, I
say.
Interview three differentoncologists for your cancer type
at three different hospitals,and see who responds to those
questions in the way that youfeel would be most supportive of
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your desire and for yourapproach, and is so critical
because, yeah, they're gonna bein your life for a long time and
you don't want every time thatyou walk into their office that
it's gonna be a fight or,causing you more stress.
So really great advice.
And in closing, I can't believethat the time has gone by so
quickly.
what about someone
Stephanie Fletcher (24:33):
I know
Ivelisse Page (24:34):
like yourself, who has rung the bell, you're
cancer free and you're told thatWhat advice would you give to
that person that has just rungthe bell?
Stephanie Fletcher (24:42):
Here's the thing.
What we are is, and I tag thisin all of my things, is it's a
cancering to healing journey.
And this journey does not endwith a bell ringing or a end of
radiation or a surgery orwhatever.
This is a continuous journey.
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Does it get easier?
Yes.
Are you gonna have better daysor days that you don't think
about it?
Yes, for sure.
But I will tell you that thisjourney is usually something
that helps us to pivot in waysthat we should have pivoted a
long time ago.
We have to learn that what weare doing to our bodies, whether
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it's cancer, autoimmune disease,thyroid, whatever it is, any
kind of dis-ease in our body, Wehave to learn that this healing
journey is forever.
There's never gonna be apinnacle point in our lives
where we're I just reached it.
Like I literally just won.
I am a hundred percent thehealthiest I will ever be.
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That's not gonna be true.
You gotta take things slow andyou've gotta learn that your
journey is gonna look like thosewaves, right?
It's gonna look very different.
And so give yourself some grace.
I gave myself a lot of gracethis year maybe a little bit too
much.
And so I'm trying to get backinto that rhythm of when I was
like full on in that healingmode, right?
Enjoy this journey and realizethat this healing journey is
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really the one that everyoneshould be on.
Every single human should be onthis journey of how can I serve
this body that God created inthe most amazing way, so that I
can serve others in the bestway?
Because when we are not well, itis very hard to be those
incredible vessels, right?
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That, that God's created us tobe.
Ivelisse Page (26:33):
Yep, that's great advice.
And when you're talking aboutthat, I have this picture of a
fire truck and they're alwaysready for whatever call is
coming, but those fire trucksaren't dirty and the tires
aren't flat.
Every time you see'em, they'respotless, they're ready to go
full of gas, ready for whateveremergency it is.
And that's similar to our body.
We need to treat it so thatwe're ready and we're prepared
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to do what God asks us to donext.
And I'm so glad you shared thatbecause even almost 14 years
post my N E D, no evidence ofdisease, I still, to this day
take mistletoe as prevention.
I still get all of my cancermarkers done every year to make
sure that my levels are right,my toxicity levels, and all
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those things that are part ofliving in the world that we do
today to continue to live ahealthy, a long and vibrant life
is so important.
So thank you so much for all thewisdom you shared today, and, I
know that this podcast is gonnaencourage so many on their
cancering to healing journeyand, we'll look forward to
hearing from you again soon.
Stephanie Fletcher (27:35):
Thanks so much for having me.
This was awesome.
Thank you.
Blessings.
Ivelisse Page (27:46):
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Hi, I'm Ivelisse Page, and thanks for listening
to the Believe Big podcast, theshow where we take deep dive
into your healing with healthexperts, integrative
practitioners, biblical faithleaders and cancer thrivers from
around the globe.
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Welcome to today's episode onthe Believe Big podcast.
My name is Ivelisse Page andit's an honor to spend this time
with you.
Today you will hear from cancerthriver Stephanie Fletcher on
effective healing habits foranyone in a cancering process.
Stephanie is a wife to Lee of 20years and a mom to four kids,
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ranging from seven to 17 yearsold.
She graduated from AbileneChristian University with the
degree in exercise science andhas worked in health and
wellness for 23 years.
Six years ago, after anautoimmune diagnosis, Stephanie
went back to school through theInstitute of Integrative
Nutrition to get hercertification in holistic health
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coaching because she knew therewas more to health than what she
had gotten used to in theteachings for years.
Two years ago though her life asshe knew it took a pivot when
she received a breast cancerdiagnosis and embarked on the
biggest learning journey of herlife.
She is now passionate aboutwalking with other breast cancer
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patients to help them becometheir own advocates and empower
them to heal from within.
Welcome, Stephanie to the show.
Stephanie Fletcher (01:47):
Thank you so much.
I'm excited to be here.
It's awesome.
Ivelisse Page (01:50):
We always like to learn from our guests what their
favorite health tip is, and I'msure you have many, but can you
share one with us?
Stephanie Fletcher (01:58):
Oh man, I have to choose one.
I think especially in the seasonthat I'm in as a mom of four, I
think my biggest tip would be toprotect your sleep and sleep is
where our body does a lot of itshealing.
It's what our body has to have.
And I think sometimes,especially as moms, we tend to
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forego certain things in orderto make sure everything else is
done.
And that's one thing that I kindof stick to my schedule.
And even though I have twoteenagers that sometimes get
home later than me or go to bedafter me, that is just something
that I try to protect.
Ivelisse Page (02:32):
So true.
And you're not the first healthexpert that have shared that.
you're with several great peoplethat have said the same thing,
so we really need to listen tothat for sure.
Before we get into our maindiscussion on effective healing
habits, can you tell us a littlebit about how you found out you
had cancer?
Stephanie Fletcher (02:48):
Yes, actually I went in for a routine
mammogram.
So had had one at 40 years old,got my second one at 41, and
that mammogram came backabnormal.
They sent me back for asonogram.
That sonogram turned into abiopsy and a diagnosis of
lobular carcinoma.
Ivelisse Page (03:04):
And so what did you think at that time?
Because you have a similar storylike me, where I was taking care
of my body, I was exercising,eating well, and I found myself
with cancer and I realized laterwhat triggered my cancer.
Have you been able to evaluate,to discover what might have
played a role in your cancer?
Stephanie Fletcher (03:22):
Yes.
So when you said, I wentthrough, in my introduction, the
biggest learning journey of mylife, going into that diagnosis,
I did consider myself a fairlyhealthy individual, especially
in comparison to the rest of theworld.
And what I later found out, andluckily I had been going through
this journey five years priorthrough going back to school at
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IIN, I discovered that healthwas so encompassing of
spiritual, emotional, physical.
And I think sometimes we think,I'm working out and I'm eating a
lot better than the normalworld, so I'm considered
healthy.
What I found out was I'd had alot of other things going on as
far as my emotional health, mystress level, how I like to pack
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on 40,000 things at one time.
And I thought that I wasmultitasking well, which then I
found out there is no such thingas multitasking.
But I found that the hard way.
I think that through it all, Iwas able to dig back into my
family history and into just asa kid remembering always being
sick and having multiple earinfections.
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And I grew up in Franceactually.
And my parents were big onhomeopathic care.
Cause that's just what there wasback then in France.
So I think looking back therewas a lot of things that stemmed
to my diagnosis, right?
And just my terrain was actuallydeep down inside was really not
that healthy.
And so I had to go back.
Luckily I didn't have to go backto ground zero, but I had to go
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back to close to ground zero.
Ivelisse Page (04:51):
Yeah, I think so many of us focus so much on the
physical side.
You have a disease and here'show you treat it, but we don't
really focus in on thatemotional, mental aspect that
plays such a huge role in ourhealing.
That was part of my story aswell.
I was harboring on forgivenessand to God no less, and I had no
idea.
Through that process ofdiscovering that brought so much
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healing to my life.
And so, integrative orcomplimentary therapies did you
include in your protocol?
Stephanie Fletcher (05:19):
I wanna say this before we go into that
because, and I don't know if youguys knew this when I emailed
back.
Y'all were an extremely, and itmakes me tear up cuz y'all
aren't a massive organization,but your website is what led me
to where I am.
I was googling everything Ipossibly could and searching
for, what do I do?
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Because even in the holisticworld, there are tons of
different options and everyonethinks that they're right.
And so it was something aboutyour website and even part of
the resources, what to ask yourphysician when you go in and
just a calm really came over meand I started looking at what
physicians offered mistletoe,cuz mistletoe and that therapy
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made sense to me.
It was one of the very firstthings that I could, in my
holistic background and what Iknew and all that, it made sense
to me.
And so I started looking, and Idon't even know really why I
picked Durango, Colorado, but Idid.
And I knew that my husband'scousin lived there and I was at
least I have one person that Iknow in this city.
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And so I went and come to findout they were actually gone the
week that I was there, so I wasable to use their car.
But I went to Namaste with Dr.
Stacy Mulkey, and it was one ofthe biggest God-sends.
I literally wrote the whole timethat I was there, story after
story of the Durango Angels.
The hotel that I stayed at, thechef there, I was changing all
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of my eating habits and beingsuper strict and I was like,
where do I eat?
What do I do?
And the chef came out and hewas, his name is Chef Safari and
he was from Africa.
And he said, go to the storenext door and buy everything
that you can eat and I will makesomething.
And so I
Ivelisse Page (07:02):
My gosh!
Stephanie Fletcher (07:03):
Bought, all these vegetables and stuff, and
he came out and this is thatmoment where you're like, what
in the world?
And I was sitting in therestaurant by myself, and I'm a
very big extrovert, so it washard to eat by myself, but I
made friends.
He comes out with threebeautiful soups and he had
carved flowers out of the vegsand made it so special for me.
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And we're still friends to thisday.
There was those types of thingshappened all over Durango.
And they were just kinda, what Icall my first loves.
And then I ended up finding alocal, an unbelievable place
called Root Causes Medicine,which I think you've been there.
Ivelisse Page (07:43):
Yes.
They're great.
Stephanie Fletcher (07:45):
They're incredible.
And so now I get to work withDr.
Guillory at Root Causes Medicineand so I transferred.
I still talk to Doctor Stacy andall the people in Durango but,
it's just easier with my lifeand it being full to be
somewhere local and they havebeen absolutely amazing.
Ivelisse Page (07:59):
Incredible, you went to two wonderful places.
I love both of those offices andhow that chef, that's really
loving people.
He really was the hand and feetof Christ for you and you have
people praying, sure enough,God's angels did show up for you
there and that's incredible.
I know you're a person of faith,so how did that play a role in
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your journey?
Stephanie Fletcher (08:19):
I feel like I'm gonna cry like this entire
time.
Ivelisse Page (08:22):
You are able to.
Stephanie Fletcher (08:25):
So when I went and had my biopsy done, I
was actually flying out soonafter to go to Oregon and I was
speaking at a health conference.
I called my doctor and I said,hey, listen, no matter what the
results are, please do notcontact me.
I will contact you when I getback.
And she was like, really?
Usually people don't do that.
I said, I'm really not thatusual.
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Because either way, if I tellyou, don't call me if it's bad
or don't call if it's good, I'mgonna be nervous, so I'm just
gonna let it go and do my thingin Oregon.
And so we went to Oregon and Iwas staying with two very close
friends, on a house that wasright on the coast.
And it was cold, January of 2020by the way.
So we go outside and we werewalking the sea, just walking in
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the sand and enjoying thebeautiful view, but it was cold
and all of a sudden it startspouring down rain.
My two friends are like, wegotta go.
We're jetting back and we'retalking rain, like the kind that
hurts.
It's going sideways.
And so in the whole time, in mymind, I knew I needed a minute
by myself.
And so I'm like sitting heretalking to myself, like, how do
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I tell them to go inside?
But I don't want them to feelsorry for me.
I don't want them to stayoutside.
I want them to go inside.
So I was going through thiswhole thing and I was like, hey
girls, I'm gonna stay outsidefor a minute, y'all go in.
They're like, are you sure?
I was like, yep, go.
And they left.
And so I stood out there and Iwas facing the ocean, and the
waves were now like big androlling and crashing and the
rain's pelting me and I said,God, I know that I'm getting
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ready to go through a storm andthe only thing I ask is that you
go ahead of me.
And I cried.
And I stood there being peltedby rain, and then I went in.
And I think I knew at that pointwhat I was gonna go home to.
And ironically, my husband hadactually called the doctor while
I was gone.
He was wanting to call them andget good news to call me in
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Oregon and tell me everythingwas fine.
And unfortunately he found outthat I had cancer.
And so I got back in theairport, the kids were all in
bed, the house was clean.
And I was like, what ishappening right now?
I should have known at thatpoint something was wrong.
And so I get in the bath and hesays, hey Babe, I called the
doctor while you were gone.
And I was like, you did?
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Why?
He said, I was wanting to callyou in Oregon and tell you that
everything was okay, but it'snot.
You have cancer.
And I was like, am I beingpunked right now?
Is this for real?
And even though my soul hadprobably been prepared for it,
the words I was not quiteprepared for.
And so I had a moment in thebathtub.
He's a very smart man cuz heknows that's where I relax.
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Had a moment, we prayed, wetalked about it.
And then, sleep was a littlehard that night.
But then the next day we justgot to work.
And I honestly believe.
That when I said that prayer andI said, God, I asked that you go
ahead of me, everywhere Iturned, he had already gone
ahead.
In the oncologist that I chosehere, in my surgeon that I chose
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here, and Dr.
Stacy and all the angels inDurango and my friends and
family and my team, I have alarge team of men, women, and
they all just would send stuffand did a GoFundMe page for me.
And these earrings, ironically,that I have on is from a jewelry
lady that I always lovefeathers.
And she did a fundraiser andthese are called Stephanie.
Ivelisse Page (11:36):
I love it.
Stephanie Fletcher (11:37):
And people bought earrings to support.
And it was one of those thingsto where my faith was just
strengthened by the fact that Hewent ahead of me the whole time
and I physically saw thosemoments.
Ivelisse Page (11:50):
And when I hear you talk about the storm, it is
a storm that we're walking into.
The good news for us is that weknow that He can calm those
storms, and so all He has to dois speak peace, be still.
And as the story went thedisciples were on the boat and
it calmed the waters instantly.
And so He has that power to notonly hold our hands through
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those storms, but to calm them.
How did you practically calmthose storms, especially the
ones of your mind?
Stephanie Fletcher (12:20):
That's a great question.
One of the very first decisionsI made was not to Google
anything, as far as mydiagnosis.
I mean, if it was things likewhen I was looking for an
incredible breast surgery centerI was looking for things like
Believe, Big, alternativetreatments, that was fine.
But I wasn't going to dig intoanything that was causing my
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energy to go down.
My husband was the one that dida lot of that research and I
gave him that assignment.
I think immediately I thought,okay, who is going to be part of
my healing team?
And this is how I coach womenwhen they're first diagnosed.
You have to create a healingteam and you have to also
remember that that team canchange and it can morph at all
times.
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And so I just started thinking,okay who is not going to be on
my team?
But who do I want to reallysurround myself?
So I had a group of prayerwarriors that I specifically
asked to be my prayer warriorsduring this.
I have a very strong family.
We unfortunately did not have agood church family at the time
because we had just movedchurches and then COVID hit.
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But I will say that that peacecomes from surrounding yourself
with words, with people thatkeep the peace, right?
If you're surrounding yourselfwith people that are putting
fear in you, or if you'relistening to things that are
putting fear in you, then thatis gonna stir up fear.
And so I try to stay as far awayas I could from any of the
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things that really caused me alot of fear.
Ivelisse Page (13:46):
Yeah, and there's actually scientific studies that
talk about how laughter is sohealing and things that, you're
watching like the news andthings like that cause your body
to become in a stressful stateand not in a rest, and a repair
state.
So there is actually science toback what you're saying as far
as making sure you'resurrounding yourself with
positivity, people that areencouraging you and praying for
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you, and things that are fillingyou and not draining you.
So that's really good.
Can you share with us some ofthe things that you did
integratively?
I know it's different for eachperson, but if you were to pick
three or four things that youfeel were essential part of your
healing journey, what would yousay they were?
Stephanie Fletcher (14:24):
Diet was a big thing for me and honestly,
it still is.
I feel like that's morphed aswell.
For me, diet has probably beenthe hardest piece of it for me,
but a really important piece.
And I've actually watched,physically watched my blood work
change either for the worse orfor the better, depending on
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whatever diet that I wasutilizing at the time.
But to me, you can't really gowrong with plants, right?
So I'm actually not a vegan orvegetarian, but I do believe
wholeheartedly that plants canheal.
The other one was getting rid oftoxins and chemicals in my home.
So I had actually been doingthis prior to my cancer
diagnosis.
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And I was called the HealthHaven coach.
I taught people how to createhealth havens in their home, and
that looked different foreverybody.
But for me it was getting rid ofplastic in my kitchen and
getting rid of anything I put onmy body, on my face, my makeup
and my hair.
No more candles, things likethat were a big part of my
health journey.
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So trying to take my toxic leveldown so my body wasn't having to
fight so hard with other things.
And then I would say that wastwo.
Oh my goodness, how do I narrowit to three?
Oh supplementation! The veryfirst two things that I hit
strong were high dose vitamin Cand mist letoe And so I do
believe that both of those werehuge for me cause I did do four
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rounds of chemo.
I will say I chose to do chemoas a wife and a mom and not so
much as a health coach.
Because if anything were tohappen in the future, I wanted
my kids to know that I had doneeverything in their book.
But during it, I did it my way.
So I did high dose vitamin C, Ifasted, I did mistletoe, and I
did a lot of mysupplementations.
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Obviously, I didn't do all of mysupplementations during it.
But my doctor was extremelypleased in how that went.
And I love that now, myconventional oncologist, her
eyes were opened to a lot of thethings that I do.
She called me randomly and askedme what my fasting schedule was
for another patient.
That's really my goal and forall of this not to go in vain.
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To be able to bless other peoplethat are getting this diagnosis.
There is such a stigma againstcancer and right now cancer is
not going away.
I just got a text last night,another good friend, young mom,
breast cancer and lymph nodes.
She has two little boys.
So this is not going away.
I heard somebody say that I livebetween anger and passion and I
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like it.
And I think that's probably mebecause when I get those texts,
I get angry.
But my passion takes over andI'm like, Okay, so what are we
gonna do about this?
It's fine that I went through myjourney and I came out okay and
I feel like I'm healed.
But what about all these otherpeople, these other mommas and
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dads, and humans that are goingthrough this process, it doesn't
have to be this way.
I truly believe that.
And so I will speak out.
I will do what I need to do andutilize my story.
Ivelisse Page (17:27):
You really turned your challenge into
opportunities not only for eventhose around you, but for your
future and your kids seeing allthe ways that you fought and how
you incorporated both sides andhow you remain well even going
through something difficult.
So how long has it been sinceyou've been N E D or no evidence
of disease?
Stephanie Fletcher (17:48):
Actually, I had my double mastectomy in May
of 2020.
I was N E D at that point.
I actually did a cancer tumorcell test in June of that year.
I had done another one and I wasat a four.
Then I did another one rightbefore I started chemo, but I
did not get the results backuntil my second round of chemo
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and I was at a zero.
Ivelisse Page (18:12):
Wow.
Stephanie Fletcher (18:13):
And so I guess May of 2020 is when I have
been N E D and I've done likethe prenuvo scan and things like
that.
Ivelisse Page (18:21):
That's fantastic.
As a coach, I know you don'ttreat disease, so what is your
role in the cancer treatmentteam?
Stephanie Fletcher (18:28):
So my role is really accountability,
guidance and putting what thesedocs and nutritionists are
giving to the patients.
Taking it and putting it in thereal world.
It's fine to tell someone, thisis what you need to eat, this is
what you need to do.
You need to go ground for 30minutes, get your eyeballs in
the sun, blah, blah, blah.
You give that to a mom of fourand she's like, I have no idea
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how to take 471 supplements andwalk barefooted with four kids
hanging on me.
It's okay, let's look at yourday and let's see how we can
implement this stuff in whatyour life looks like.
What is possible right now?
And so I take the informationthey're given and the
instructions they're given andwe mold that into what's the
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reality for them.
And I think some of it goes totalking to someone who's been
there and who's done it.
And I think that's helpful forthem.
I have a client that only callswhen she needs me.
She knows she has 12 sessions.
It's very different.
I usually do not do this.
So she called me from thedoctor's office and she's like,
my doctor's saying this.
What do you think?
And I'm like, what is your guttelling you?
And she's I don't wanna do it.
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I'm like, then I guess that'swhat you need to tell your
doctor.
You know what you want to do soyou just do it.
And so that's what I do.
Ivelisse Page (19:39):
That's awesome.
So you help to empower them tomake informed decisions.
I love that.
Do you only help breast cancerpatients, or do you help all
cancers?
Stephanie Fletcher (19:47):
So my focus is really more breast cancer,
just because that's what I canmost relate to, and that's where
my knowledge box is in.
But I have actually had a maleclient that was not breast
cancer, I've had colon, I've hadovarian.
So I try to stick in that realm,but obviously I'm not gonna say
no to somebody.
Ivelisse Page (20:05):
So if you could have go back in time now,
knowing what you know now, whatwould you have done differently
at the start of your cancerjourney?
Is there anything you would'vedone differently?
Stephanie Fletcher (20:14):
At the beginning of my journey?
Honestly, no.
Now later on, maybe like when Idecided to have my ovaries taken
out.
I think, I wish I would've hadsome more information and dug
into it a little bit deeper, butI was on a time crunch, which is
unfortunately what happens a lotof times.
You get diagnosed and all of asudden you're on a timeline.
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And I'm like wait, how did youeven know when this clump came
together?
That is fascinating.
So I think that, there's thingsI wish that I had taken more
time.
I did take a lot of time at thebeginning and I was very strong
telling my doctors, I'm notgonna do this until whatever.
But when I came to the ovaries,I did have a surgery scheduled
and the doctor could do theovaries at the same time, and so
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I went for it.
And now looking back at it,that's the only decision I might
have thought through a littlebit more.
Ivelisse Page (21:05):
You're absolutely right.
People are put on this conveyorbelt of chemo, surgery,
radiation.
They're the sense of urgency.
They don't feel like they havetime.
And we are always telling peoplebased on what our physicians
share, which is most of the timeyou do.
They say it typically takesseven to 10 years for the cancer
to grow in the first place, forit to be visible.
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And so you have time to take twoweeks, let's say three weeks,
four weeks, to really dive intomaking sure that you're making
the best decisions for yourself.
Unless it's an acute situationlike a bowel blockage or
something like that, then youknow you can't, but, but you
typically do have time.
And I think that's one of thethings that most patients
experience is what you did.
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You're put on this timerestrictive, decision making
process.
And, when we rush and we makedecisions without really
spending the time to really lookinto it, it can make it more
difficult to feel like you'reempowered to make the right one
for yourself.
What advice would you give tosomeone who has recently been
diagnosed?
Stephanie Fletcher (22:04):
It goes back to what I just talked about,
take a breath.
I think that if we could learnto breathe and just slow down in
our process of diagnosis, thenwe have the opportunity to
listen to what our bodies aresaying.
But I think in the noise and thespeed and the fear that a lot of
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the medical community will puton us.
we just don't take the time tobreathe and to think.
We almost become theseuneducated robots.
All of a sudden, it's you getcancer and then you're like, yes
sir, yes ma'am, whatever youtell me to do, cause I just
don't wanna die.
And I'm thinking to myself,first of all, this might be news
to all y'all, but we're allgonna die at some point.
Ivelisse Page (22:48):
Yes, we all have that expiration date, my husband
says.
Stephanie Fletcher (22:51):
That's right.
Yeah.
And we all want to die, well.
But the problem is that in thatfear of not wanting to die,
we're not really living.
And we're living in this fearof, what if?
Like the fear of it coming backis a real fear for me.
And I usually can keep thatunder control.
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But there's days that I'm like,man this would suck to have to
miss this or this, and it'shard.
So what I would say is take abreath, slow down.
And if there's a doctor or anurse or anything that you do
not feel comfortable with, youhave the power to fire them.
You are paying for these people.
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You're paying for theirexpertise.
And so put yourself back in thatplace of empowerment and realize
it's okay if I don't like whatyou're saying to me and you're
putting fear in me, so I'm gonnamove on.
Cuz believe me, there are tonsof people in the medical field
that are incredible people thatare willing to work with you.
So go find someone else.
Ivelisse Page (23:52):
Yep.
That's great advice.
And that's one of the thingsthat we also share with patients
that reach out to us is thatthis person's gonna be following
you for years to come, and youwanna make sure that they are a
team player and not someone,that's my way in the highway, I
say.
Interview three differentoncologists for your cancer type
at three different hospitals,and see who responds to those
questions in the way that youfeel would be most supportive of
(24:14):
your desire and for yourapproach, and is so critical
because, yeah, they're gonna bein your life for a long time and
you don't want every time thatyou walk into their office that
it's gonna be a fight or,causing you more stress.
So really great advice.
And in closing, I can't believethat the time has gone by so
quickly.
what about someone
Stephanie Fletcher (24:33):
I know
Ivelisse Page (24:34):
like yourself, who has rung the bell, you're
cancer free and you're told thatWhat advice would you give to
that person that has just rungthe bell?
Stephanie Fletcher (24:42):
Here's the thing.
What we are is, and I tag thisin all of my things, is it's a
cancering to healing journey.
And this journey does not endwith a bell ringing or a end of
radiation or a surgery orwhatever.
This is a continuous journey.
(25:03):
Does it get easier?
Yes.
Are you gonna have better daysor days that you don't think
about it?
Yes, for sure.
But I will tell you that thisjourney is usually something
that helps us to pivot in waysthat we should have pivoted a
long time ago.
We have to learn that what weare doing to our bodies, whether
(25:26):
it's cancer, autoimmune disease,thyroid, whatever it is, any
kind of dis-ease in our body, Wehave to learn that this healing
journey is forever.
There's never gonna be apinnacle point in our lives
where we're I just reached it.
Like I literally just won.
I am a hundred percent thehealthiest I will ever be.
(25:47):
That's not gonna be true.
You gotta take things slow andyou've gotta learn that your
journey is gonna look like thosewaves, right?
It's gonna look very different.
And so give yourself some grace.
I gave myself a lot of gracethis year maybe a little bit too
much.
And so I'm trying to get backinto that rhythm of when I was
like full on in that healingmode, right?
Enjoy this journey and realizethat this healing journey is
(26:09):
really the one that everyoneshould be on.
Every single human should be onthis journey of how can I serve
this body that God created inthe most amazing way, so that I
can serve others in the bestway?
Because when we are not well, itis very hard to be those
incredible vessels, right?
(26:31):
That, that God's created us tobe.
Ivelisse Page (26:33):
Yep, that's great advice.
And when you're talking aboutthat, I have this picture of a
fire truck and they're alwaysready for whatever call is
coming, but those fire trucksaren't dirty and the tires
aren't flat.
Every time you see'em, they'respotless, they're ready to go
full of gas, ready for whateveremergency it is.
And that's similar to our body.
We need to treat it so thatwe're ready and we're prepared
(26:54):
to do what God asks us to donext.
And I'm so glad you shared thatbecause even almost 14 years
post my N E D, no evidence ofdisease, I still, to this day
take mistletoe as prevention.
I still get all of my cancermarkers done every year to make
sure that my levels are right,my toxicity levels, and all
(27:15):
those things that are part ofliving in the world that we do
today to continue to live ahealthy, a long and vibrant life
is so important.
So thank you so much for all thewisdom you shared today, and, I
know that this podcast is gonnaencourage so many on their
cancering to healing journeyand, we'll look forward to
hearing from you again soon.
Stephanie Fletcher (27:35):
Thanks so much for having me.
This was awesome.
Thank you.
Blessings.
Ivelisse Page (27:46):
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