October 8, 2024 • 30 mins
Today, you get to hear from my friend and personal dentist, Dr. Sharla Aronson!
Dr. Aronson shares her journey into biological dentistry, which began after her first child was born with hearing loss. This life-changing experience led her to explore alternative health approaches, eventually resonating with biological dentistry's focus on root causes and prevention.
Dr. Aronson explains how biological dentistry connects oral health to overall well-being, using
- personalized treatments,
- cutting-edge technology like 3D x-rays, and
- biocompatible materials.
Join us as she dives into the importance of eliminating harmful infections and the unique, holistic approach to dental care she offers.
Learn more about Dr. Sharla Aronson:
https://www.alive-dental.com/about
Suggested Resources:
- Alive Dental (Fort Collins, CO)
- International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology
- Holistic Dental Society
- International Academy of Biological Dentistry and Medicine
- Dr. Sharla's Blog: Glow From Within
- Alive Dental Facebook
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Ivelisse Page (00:06):
Hi, I'm Ivelisse Page, and thanks for listening
to the Believe Big podcast, theshow where we take a deep dive
into your healing with healthexperts, integrative
practitioners, biblical faithleaders, and cancer thrivers
from around the globe.
(00:34):
Welcome to today's episode onthe Believe Big podcast.
My name is Ivelisse Page, andit's always a pleasure to be
with you.
I am super excited about today'spodcast guest, Dr.
Sharla Aronson, a biologicaldentist here in Colorado.
Sharla's journey into biologicaldentistry began after the birth
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of her first child, who was bornwith hearing loss.
This life changing experienceled her to explore alternative
approaches to health that delvedeeper into finding the root
causes and promotingpreventative measures.
Biological dentistry stronglyresonated with her values.
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It places great emphasis oneliminating harmful infections
and tailoring treatment plansbased on each patient's unique
biology.
She completed her undergraduatestudies at Nebraska Wesleyan
University, followed by dentalschool at the University of
Colorado.
She furthered her education andexpertise through a residency at
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the Veterans Hospital in PaloAlto and in 2019, she completed
holistic dental education,gaining a deeper understanding
of comprehensive and naturalapproaches to dental care.
Sharla also holds a S M A R Tcertification from the
International Academy of OralMedicine and Toxicology and
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completed the Bio Dentist Waytraining in 2022.
She is married to her highschool sweetheart Chris, and has
been blessed with two beautifuldaughters.
Welcome to the show, Dr.
Aronson.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (02:12):
Thanks so much, Ivelisse.
It's great to be here.
Ivelisse Page (02:15):
So, we like to begin our podcast with our
guest's favorite health tip.
So do you have one to share withus today?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (02:23):
I do.
and it resonates with me becauseI've seen a lot from it.
So my recommendation would bethat everybody get a baseline 3D
dental x ray.
It's something that can be usedto look for hidden infections,
checking root canals to see ifthere's infections if needed, or
other abnormalities.
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You would not believe how oftenwe find something on those x
rays.
Ivelisse Page (02:49):
Now, when you say x rays, immediately people,
especially in our realm, willsay, Oh, no, wait, I want to
avoid radiation.
And, what are the health risksversus benefits?
And is it a lot of radiation?
And how does it compare to otherimaging that is done at dental
offices?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (03:04):
Luckily, now that we're in a digital age, the
amount of radiation issignificantly lower than what we
would think of previously.
I think the best thing tocompare it to is that dental x
rays are going to be loweramounts of radiation than what
you would get when you take aflight across the country.
Do we want to expose you to themall the time?
No, but prevention is soimportant with dental care.
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And the consequences of livingwith a chronic low grade hidden
infection are greater than theconsequences you would have from
getting radiation to make sureit's not there.
Ivelisse Page (03:39):
Yes, I completely agree.
And Jimmy's a perfect case.
I'm sure he wouldn't mind mesharing this, but he had been
complaining about this tooth fora long time.
And we had gone to a differentdentist's office.
And we were so excited to getconnected with you because you
hold similar values and what weappreciate in health and how to
approach dentistry.
(04:00):
So we were so glad to find youin Fort Collins.
And he went in for your intakeand he did that 3D and it did
find an infection in the areawhere he was saying he was
having pain.
And the other, dentist officedid not catch it and everything
looked good from the outside.
But when you did that 3D wasthere that it was discovered.
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So he is so happy that's goneand he's healing from that and
able to move forward.
But you're a hundred percentcorrect that you don't want an
unknown infection or somethinghappening that may cause even
more issues.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (04:39):
And I think what's confusing is sometimes
people think, I got my dental xrays, everything looked fine.
The problem with a regulardental x ray is it's two
dimensions.
And so these infections canhide, especially on this upper
area where you have a sinus inthe background.
Sinus is black, infection isblack.
You can't always see it.
When you look in 3D, it becomesvery clear.
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The other thing that's kind ofwild about dental is that when a
tooth dies and it either has aroot canal or doesn't.
The tooth no longer can feelpain, and so people often think,
if I have a problem, it willcertainly hurt.
I'll know it, but you don't.
You get these weird things,right?
Oh, it only hurts sometimes.
(05:22):
It hurts when I fly, and thenit's fine when I'm on the
ground.
I have these headaches everyday.
Those are the things that I hearfrom my patients, but then we
find an infection, and they'relike, Oh, I've been dealing with
this for 20 years, and nobody'sever found it.
Ivelisse Page (05:35):
Wow.
Wow.
So share with our audience.
What is the difference betweenbiological dentistry and how it
differs from traditionaldentistry?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (05:46):
I think the main difference is, there are
several.
One, we understand that themouth is connected to the body.
And so when we see thingspresenting in the mouth, that
could be a result of somethingsystemic.
And if you have a systemiccondition, that can also impact
your dental health.
So, that is always front ofmind.
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But we're also looking at anindividual.
So instead of we do X, Y, Z.
It's always X, Y, Z.
We're looking at that specificpatient and having a
conversation and deciding what'sbest for them.
So in conventional dentistry, itmight be like, The tooth died,
now you need a root canal.
Period.
End of story.
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In biological dentistry, I'mgoing to sit with that patient
and say the tooth is dead.
We have the option of doing aroot canal or removing the
tooth.
Let's talk about you, yourcondition.
Do we think your immune systemcan handle that?
Do you have cancer?
Do you have a chronic diseasethat your immune system is so
busy fighting that we don't needanother challenge, right?
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So it's taking that individualapproach.
And on top of that, from areally techie standpoint, we're
using different things.
We use ozone, we use laser,we're using biocompatible
materials.
So our goal when we're actuallydoing the dentistry is also to
keep the tooth vital and alive,and to minimize inflammation and
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immune system activation.
Ivelisse Page (07:14):
Yes.
And I feel like your experienceat your office is night and day
difference than what most peopleexperience at a traditional
dentistry.
And, not only do you have thewater filters and tea and, just
beautiful environment, it facesthe window, very relaxing.
You have even warm neck pillowsthat, that helps to calm us.
But even during my procedure,when I had my amalgams removed
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and had the SMART removal, youguys also gave me, is it called
STEM?
Is that what it is?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (07:45):
Alpha STEM.
Ivelisse Page (07:46):
Alpha STEM.
And it just really was amazingnight and day difference in how
I felt because I was so coveredup and, we're taking all the
precautions not to get mercuryand be contaminated by that.
I felt a little claustrophobic.
And so you guys put that STEMon.
And I could immediately tell I,I became at peace and, at one
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point I think the batteries weredying and I was like starting to
feel anxious again.
And I'm like, is this thingworking?
And sure enough, you change thebatteries and it's like calming
again.
It's unbelievable the tools thatyou have available.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (08:21):
Yeah.
And what you're talking about isthat connection between the
mouth and the body.
So you can have two completelydifferent experiences and
healing.
So if you were in my chair and Ilet you just be terrified or in
pain, claustrophobic, the wayyou're going to walk away and
the way your body is going toheal is going to be very
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different than if I get you calmand relaxed.
We get you into parasympathetic.
We can do that while we treatyou or the best that we can.
So you're not in that full likefight or flight.
You're going to heal better.
You're going to have less postop pain.
So that is important.
I think some people look at ouroffice and go, Oh, you just want
it to be very luxury.
(09:03):
Yes, we want people to have agreat experience, but all of
that matters in the way thatyour body responds to being in
the office.
It's important that when youwalk in, you're not like, Oh, it
smells like a dental office.
And now that's triggering amemory from when I'm a child.
Like we're trying to make sureyou have this fresh memory, your
body's calm, because it matters.
Ivelisse Page (09:20):
Yes.
Yes.
I've also heard that the teethhave meridians, right?
And that you had mentionedbefore certain chronic health
conditions that can be connectedto an infection, and I've even
had people who said that theyfound it interesting that the
tooth that they had issue with,the meridian ended up being a
breast cancer diagnosis, or haveyou found that to be true?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (09:44):
Yeah, what's wild is that the scientist in
you wants to see it, and youcan't see meridians.
But meridians are very valid andtrue, and it is a science.
It's what acupuncture is basedon that we have these energy
lines that run through the body,and the meridians are actually
connected to different teeth.
Yes, I have seen that.
I, in fact, when I was talkingabout CT, I was thinking about a
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patient who we took a CT onbecause we take them on all our
new patients.
She'd never had a cavity in herlife.
We had no reason to think shehad an infection because usually
it starts cavity or trauma.
But her, she had an infectedlower front tooth that she did
not know about and it was on themeridian of the cancer that she
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had.
Ivelisse Page (10:28):
Wow.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (10:29):
And she was like, and she came in going, I
know there's something else andI think it's something in my
mouth.
But she had no, no symptoms, noother indication.
The other thing that's prettyneat is like thermography.
So when you talk about breastcancer, I have had thermograms
sent to us where it's a hotspotfrom a tooth, which is typically
your first upper molar, straightdown to the breast, right?
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And so they're going, okay,we're seeing changes in the
breast and we think it's relatedto this infection, this chronic
low grade infection in themouth.
Ivelisse Page (11:00):
Incredible.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (11:02):
Again, it's not isolated.
Your teeth are not isolated fromyour body.
Ivelisse Page (11:06):
No.
And we're all interconnectedparts, right?
Whether it's physical,emotional, spiritual, we always
tend to focus on one or theother.
And when you group all of thatinformation together as a whole
person, you really see a muchbigger picture in the healing
process.
So I'm so glad that you guys dothat.
Now, what types of materials dobiological dentists use for
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fillings or crowns and otherprocedures?
And why are they consideredsafer?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (11:34):
So in general, we're going to avoid
metals when possible.
And that's because speaking ofmeridians, meridians are
energetic, right?
If we put a metal on a meridian,it's blocking it.
So we're staying away frommetals when we can.
The other thing about metals inthe mouth, specifically, would
be like mercury fillings.
We know mercury is a toxin.
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The ADA would say, when it's inyour mouth, it's amalgamated,
it's stuck with other metals, soit shouldn't be exposing you.
But if you want to go on a deepdive, go to the International
Academy of Oral Medicine andToxicology.
They have all the researchshowing that if it's in your
mouth, every time you're eating,because of friction and heat, it
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is releasing mercury.
So we're staying away from that.
We're going to be using ceramicsor porcelains instead.
So our crowns are made of acertain type of porcelain called
zirconia, which is differentfrom zirconium, which is a
metal.
So we're using ceramics.
Even our composite that we use,of course it has no BPA, no
Bis-GMA, but even the particlesin it, instead of being plastic
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are made out of ceramic.
So we're trying to use the mostinert, Inactive materials.
I will tell you though, thereare some people that know
they're sensitive to everything.
I had one in the chair yesterdayand she was like, I'm just
sensitive to everything, right?
Like she doesn't.
lotionsgetter, all kinds ofthings getter.
For those particular patients,we can actually do a
biocompatibility test, which iswhere they check the blood to a
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whole bunch of dental materials.
And then we know, is there acertain one we can use that's
going to be better or worse forthat person and really
personalize it that way.
Ivelisse Page (13:13):
That is fascinating.
Fascinating that you can go tothat extent and individualize
care, which is what should bedone.
So can you share the potentialhealth risks associated with
mercury amalgam fillings and theprocess to safely remove them
like you did for me?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (13:31):
Yes.
so mercury is a knownneurotoxin, right?
I think when they firstdiscovered it, it was from the
hat makers, Mad Hatter'sDisease.
You have depression, there'sneurological issues, suicide,
all kinds of things.
But in addition to that, it'sgoing to be contributing to your
toxic load in your body.
And more and more, I think we'rebecoming aware of toxicity
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because we are exposed to somany chemicals now.
You know, a hundred years ago,they probably didn't think about
it much because you only hadlittle exposures in your life.
Now, it's everywhere, all thetime.
And, we don't know at what pointtoxicity is going to cause a
problem with people, but onceyou sort of reach the burden
level, now it becomes a problem.
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So if you come in and you wantthem out at our office, what we
don't want to do is drill it outand expose you to a bunch of
mercury.
When I put a drill on thatfilling, it's going to release
mercury vapor.
So it's important that you getprotected from inhaling it.
So you have oxygen mask on.
We also want to make sure it'snot getting in your mouth.
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You're not ingesting it.
It's not getting on your skin.
So you do get, as you got toexperience, like fully covered.
You have a rubber dam on whichkind of holds everything out of
your mouth.
We have special, like I wear aspecial mask, so I'm not
breathing it all the time.
I'm fully covered.
You're fully covered.
And then there's this big vacuumthat's pulling all the vapors
off.
And that's, again, we don't wantyou to walk away and go, wow, I
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felt really bad for like weeksafter I had that filling done,
which I do have patients whowill say, I did it somewhere
else.
I didn't use the SMART protocolwhich is Safe Mercury Amalgam
Removal Technique, and they feelsick afterwards because the
toxic burden is too much, right?
The other thing that I findreally important is if you have
a practitioner who knows youwell.
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So I know you, some of youraudience may have cancer, right?
And they say, okay, I need toget this out.
Well, we might want to make surewith that practitioner that
you're at a good place to dothat at this time before we just
jump in and do it.
We need to make sure detoxpathways are clear and all of
that.
That's not, of course, what Ido, but partnering with those
providers to make sure that youare ready to do it.
Ivelisse Page (15:42):
Yes.
Yeah.
And you did that with myintegrative practitioner, which
I was very grateful for.
And something that you also didthat I found really helpful is
that you had a protocol withsupplements prior, whether it
was charcoal and glutathione.
Can you share a little bit aboutwhat you have patients do before
and after in preparation?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (16:03):
Yes, so the supplements before and after are
the same, but we're using somesort of binder, activated
charcoal is the one that wetypically recommend, that you
start taking before.
And that's because if you haveamalgam fillings in your mouth
and you're constantly ingestinga little bit, you've got mercury
in your gut, even if you've beendoing detoxing.
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So, leading up, we are clearingout the gut a little bit.
So that if you have an exposure,it's not immediately getting
absorbed.
So we're doing that before andafter we're supporting your
antioxidants just so we can helpsupport your detox system, so
glutathione and vitamin C.
We do talk a little bit aboutgut health.
Of course, that's not, again,what I do, but for people who
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maybe don't have a practitioner,we want to make sure digestion
is working, and elimination,right?
So like just making sure thatgut is working.
And some of our patients too,they might go and do a Myers,
did you do that?
Ivelisse Page (17:00):
I did.
I actually did a high dosevitamin C is what I went after.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (17:06):
Yeah, so they like the day of or the day
after people might go get an IVso that you're like, okay They
did all the protocol.
I don't hopefully have muchexposure, but anything that's in
my system that vitamin C ishelping eliminate
Ivelisse Page (17:19):
Yeah, and most people like you said would
probably do the Myers But I didthe high dose just because it
was I guess six six months maybenine months post my original
surgery.
So we really wanted to make surethat, my body was healing well.
And yeah, like you said, it'sreally important to, if you're
in a cancering process or justpast the cancering process, that
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you really talk the specificswith your integrative
practitioner so that you do itin a place where you are coming
from place of strength.
And, I've had people ask me allthroughout these years, you've
had these amalgam fillingsIvelisse, this mercury filling
since you were 13, and why haveyou waited so long to get them
out?
And, and initially when I lookedinto it after my first cancer
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diagnosis, I asked mypractitioner and he, at that
time, the SMART removal wasn'taround.
And he also said that, at thispoint, you just keep healing and
half of it is already in yourbones.
And I didn't realize that.
And what pushed me to get themdone this time was that as you
did your checkup, one, the SMARTremoval process is in place, but
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two, I also really realized thatmine were leeching.
And it's so they were when I waseating hot things or grinding my
teeth or whatever it is.
I was getting slightly poisonedevery day.
So let's get rid of that.
I don't need any more of that.
And so I can honestly tell youthat I feel better without them
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in there.
I don't know if it's the placeboeffect or not, but I can
literally tell that I feelbetter and so I really encourage
people to really look into thatif you still have mercury
fillings to really check them,one, to make sure they're not
leaching and two, to find a wayto get them removed if possible.
And how does oral health impactour overall wellness?
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So are there specific diseasesor conditions where you have
seen a notable improvement afteraddressing the dental health
issues?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (19:21):
Well, yes, I think there's more than we're
even aware of because if we lookfrom a really like zoom way out
beyond diagnosis, a lot of timesdental infections are a source
of inflammation, right?
And we know inflammation isoften just that root cause of
things going haywire.
With dental disease, so if wetalk about gum disease,
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periodontal disease, there'salso certain bacteria that have
known correlations to cancers.
We know that if we haveuncontrolled gum disease, it
will impact a person's abilityto regulate their blood glucose.
That is well known, and itshould be known by all dentists,
not just biologic dentists.
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If we can control gum disease,it will help people control
blood glucose, well known.
Other things we see in the mouthis a lot of times the mouth
shows signs of an airway or anairway issue, sleep apnea
issues.
That can be highly correlated tostroke and high blood pressure.
So there's all these things,signs, symptoms, the bacteria
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that really impact the rest ofthe body.
Ivelisse Page (20:29):
Yes.
And so what natural orpreventive measures do you
recommend for maintaining goodoral health and how does
nutrition play a role here?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (20:38):
Oh, absolutely.
You know, when you think aboutnutrition, dentists were the
first ones to talk about it.
We know that diets high incarbohydrates and sugars, candy,
soda, that's going to causecavities, right?
So the nutrition part, yes, youguys maybe have heard that from
any dentist.
We know about hygiene.
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A few of the other things thatare very impactful are gut
health.
So the mouth is the start of thegut.
If you have a gut issue, it'svery likely that the microbiome
in your mouth is also off.
Reflux, a lot of people havereflux, whether it's related to
sleep apnea or just a digestiveissue.
But with reflux, we'll see thepH of the mouth become too
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acidic and people become proneto disease.
So improving gut health is huge.
Making sure that people areabsorbing nutrients.
It's huge, that's also kind ofpart of gut health, right?
Like, are you absorbing yourfats?
Are we getting those importantfat soluble vitamins and
minerals out of our food andactually absorbing it?
One of the other things that issuper impactful is the way that
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we breathe.
So, nasal breathing is reallyimportant for keeping the mouth
healthy.
When we breathe through ourmouth, it dries the mouth out.
It favors the more pathologicbacteria in the mouth.
So we're always talking, lookingat airway in association with
dental as well, because it'soften one of the gut health and
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airway are often kind of thoseroot cause that we're looking
at.
Ivelisse Page (22:10):
Yes.
Yes.
And so how do biologicaldentists manage infections
without the use of harshchemicals?
I know you touched on itearlier, but I would love for
you to expand on that.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (22:22):
Yeah, definitely.
So, when I think that kind ofthe scary infections are the
ones where you have an abscessedtooth, whether it's symptomatic
or not, you have an infectedtooth, that infection is
damaging the bone.
When we take a tooth out,conventionally the tooth comes
out, you're given a piece ofgauze, you bite on it, you're
done.
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When you have a tooth removed ina biologic office, we're going
to make sure that we do a fewother things.
One, we're removing theperiodontal ligament, which is
the ligament that attaches thetooth to the bone.
And that's because that ligamentis all infected as well.
That gets removed, and then weknow that we have these tiny
little bacteria in this, theporosity of the bone, that we're
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not going to get rid of all thebone, but we can then go in with
laser and ozone to help kill thebacteria in the bone.
One of the other things thatwould be done typically at a
biologic office is if you'veever heard of a dry socket,
that's when after the fact youhad a tooth taken out and you
get an infection in the bonebecause there's no blood clot
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protecting it.
We're going to take some of theperson's blood, make their own
clot, and put it in there.
So we're kind of speeding up theprocess of healing by about
three days, protecting the boneimmediately.
So we're kind of, we'vedisinfected the socket, we put
that in, it's now protected, andthen we just have better
outcomes.
The other thing is, we useantibiotics when we have to.
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Sometimes we have to.
You know, if I have somebody whohas uh, immune system that's
struggling or is preoccupiedwith something else.
I may use a systemic antibiotic,but my first go-to is gonna be
using ozone gas in that area asa local antibiotic so we can
actually inject it around theinfection.
It kills the bacteria, but italso sparks the immune system to
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come to the area and startcleaning, it's very helpful.
We use ozone in pretty muchevery procedure as well as
laser.
Ivelisse Page (24:18):
Yes.
I saw the benefit of the ozoneimmediately after my cleanings
and to do the ozone on my gumsand then they weren't swollen
for a day after the cleaning.
So it's really helpful to havethat be a part of the process.
What advancements in technologydo you find most promising in
biological dentistry?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (24:40):
I would say ozone is an old technology, but
it's actually starting to gaintraction.
Ozone is one that I don't thinkI could practice without
anymore.
It's just O3.
So I like to tell my patientsit's a super oxygen.
It breaks down really quickly tooxygen and peroxides.
It sparks your immune system.
So that's huge.
It's not expensive.
It's easy to use.
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Technologically, laser is huge.
So laser is using light energyfor stimulating healing,
disinfecting, even growing bonethat we never thought we could
do before.
Those are all huge.
The other thing that's reallyexciting and newer, but has been
around long enough that it'ssafe to use are zirconia
implants.
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So instead of using titanium,which is metal, and is often
mixed with other things likenickel, zirconia is ceramic
material, it's strong, and tosee the way the body heals
around it, compared to titanium,is amazing.
Even the surgeons who are notbiologic, they'll be like, yeah,
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it, the gums are so much happieraround it.
Ivelisse Page (25:46):
Yes, I've noticed that personally myself when you
replaced one of the crowns thatI had to get replaced.
So yeah, the gums are happier.
What advice would you give tosomeone looking to transition
from a conventional dentist to abiological dentist?
How would they find them?
What advice would you give them?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (26:06):
I think a great way to find them would be
look at the InternationalAcademy of Oral Medicine and
Toxicology.
They'll have a list of peoplewho are part of the I-A-O-N-T.
They'll also specify peoplewho've gone through the training
to be certified in the SMARTremoval.
So what that means is that thosepeople have all of the things
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needed, and they've shown thatthey do it that way.
They also have an accreditationsystem, which is, I think it was
16 hours of training, at least,in addition to reading a lot of
research on all different facetsof biologic dentistry.
So that you're not just going tosomeone who puts on a rubber dam
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and takes out your amalgam andsays that it's safe.
It's somebody who understandsthe deeper implications of why
we're doing it.
Things like timing, like we weretalking about.
We, we waited for quite a whilebefore you, we took yours out.
I didn't meet you and do itimmediately.
We waited and that's because wehave a greater understanding of
what can happen if we don't doit correctly.
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So I'd look at the IAOMT.
And, or there's a couple otherorganizations, Holistic Dental
Society.
And then I would be preparedthat it's going to be different
than what you typicallyexperience.
Most people at a conventionaloffice are getting maybe 15
minutes with a doctor, maybetheir whole appointment takes, I
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don't know, an hour.
When you come to a biologicoffice, you're going to have a
lot more conversation.
We're going to ask a lot ofthings about your history, not
medically, personally, dentally.
We're really trying to puttogether the pieces of what's
going on.
Oftentimes doing a consultationlater, but also getting those
images, right, of the 3D andthose kinds of things.
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So at our office, our patientstypically spend about three
hours with us.
Two at the new patient, one atthe consult.
I spend time in between.
Which means you're going toinvest more in it, but what you
get out of it is also so muchgreater.
You get a really, it allows usto like really zoom out.
What's the big picture?
What are the things?
The plans we make might beseveral years.
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Phase one, phase two, how do wekind of get you to the point?
Our goal is always like, how dowe get you to the point if
you're healing yourself andyou're just, you're not having
more disease?
Ivelisse Page (28:25):
Yes.
thank you so much for sharingyour insight with us today.
I mean, it's valuableinformation and we will put the
links to the site to find abiological dentist in your area
in the show notes.
So if anyone's interested inlooking into this further, we'll
make sure to put those in theshow notes.
And thank you so much, Sharla,for being my amazing dentist.
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I really appreciate all that youdo for us.
And thank you again for yourtime today.
This was really fascinating tohear about.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (28:57):
Thanks so much for having me.
I really valued our timetogether.
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Welcome to today's episode onthe Believe Big podcast.
My name is Ivelisse Page, andit's always a pleasure to be
with you.
I am super excited about today'spodcast guest, Dr.
Sharla Aronson, a biologicaldentist here in Colorado.
Sharla's journey into biologicaldentistry began after the birth
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of her first child, who was bornwith hearing loss.
This life changing experienceled her to explore alternative
approaches to health that delvedeeper into finding the root
causes and promotingpreventative measures.
Biological dentistry stronglyresonated with her values.
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It places great emphasis oneliminating harmful infections
and tailoring treatment plansbased on each patient's unique
biology.
She completed her undergraduatestudies at Nebraska Wesleyan
University, followed by dentalschool at the University of
Colorado.
She furthered her education andexpertise through a residency at
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the Veterans Hospital in PaloAlto and in 2019, she completed
holistic dental education,gaining a deeper understanding
of comprehensive and naturalapproaches to dental care.
Sharla also holds a S M A R Tcertification from the
International Academy of OralMedicine and Toxicology and
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completed the Bio Dentist Waytraining in 2022.
She is married to her highschool sweetheart Chris, and has
been blessed with two beautifuldaughters.
Welcome to the show, Dr.
Aronson.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (02:12):
Thanks so much, Ivelisse.
It's great to be here.
Ivelisse Page (02:15):
So, we like to begin our podcast with our
guest's favorite health tip.
So do you have one to share withus today?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (02:23):
I do.
and it resonates with me becauseI've seen a lot from it.
So my recommendation would bethat everybody get a baseline 3D
dental x ray.
It's something that can be usedto look for hidden infections,
checking root canals to see ifthere's infections if needed, or
other abnormalities.
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You would not believe how oftenwe find something on those x
rays.
Ivelisse Page (02:49):
Now, when you say x rays, immediately people,
especially in our realm, willsay, Oh, no, wait, I want to
avoid radiation.
And, what are the health risksversus benefits?
And is it a lot of radiation?
And how does it compare to otherimaging that is done at dental
offices?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (03:04):
Luckily, now that we're in a digital age, the
amount of radiation issignificantly lower than what we
would think of previously.
I think the best thing tocompare it to is that dental x
rays are going to be loweramounts of radiation than what
you would get when you take aflight across the country.
Do we want to expose you to themall the time?
No, but prevention is soimportant with dental care.
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And the consequences of livingwith a chronic low grade hidden
infection are greater than theconsequences you would have from
getting radiation to make sureit's not there.
Ivelisse Page (03:39):
Yes, I completely agree.
And Jimmy's a perfect case.
I'm sure he wouldn't mind mesharing this, but he had been
complaining about this tooth fora long time.
And we had gone to a differentdentist's office.
And we were so excited to getconnected with you because you
hold similar values and what weappreciate in health and how to
approach dentistry.
(04:00):
So we were so glad to find youin Fort Collins.
And he went in for your intakeand he did that 3D and it did
find an infection in the areawhere he was saying he was
having pain.
And the other, dentist officedid not catch it and everything
looked good from the outside.
But when you did that 3D wasthere that it was discovered.
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So he is so happy that's goneand he's healing from that and
able to move forward.
But you're a hundred percentcorrect that you don't want an
unknown infection or somethinghappening that may cause even
more issues.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (04:39):
And I think what's confusing is sometimes
people think, I got my dental xrays, everything looked fine.
The problem with a regulardental x ray is it's two
dimensions.
And so these infections canhide, especially on this upper
area where you have a sinus inthe background.
Sinus is black, infection isblack.
You can't always see it.
When you look in 3D, it becomesvery clear.
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The other thing that's kind ofwild about dental is that when a
tooth dies and it either has aroot canal or doesn't.
The tooth no longer can feelpain, and so people often think,
if I have a problem, it willcertainly hurt.
I'll know it, but you don't.
You get these weird things,right?
Oh, it only hurts sometimes.
(05:22):
It hurts when I fly, and thenit's fine when I'm on the
ground.
I have these headaches everyday.
Those are the things that I hearfrom my patients, but then we
find an infection, and they'relike, Oh, I've been dealing with
this for 20 years, and nobody'sever found it.
Ivelisse Page (05:35):
Wow.
Wow.
So share with our audience.
What is the difference betweenbiological dentistry and how it
differs from traditionaldentistry?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (05:46):
I think the main difference is, there are
several.
One, we understand that themouth is connected to the body.
And so when we see thingspresenting in the mouth, that
could be a result of somethingsystemic.
And if you have a systemiccondition, that can also impact
your dental health.
So, that is always front ofmind.
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But we're also looking at anindividual.
So instead of we do X, Y, Z.
It's always X, Y, Z.
We're looking at that specificpatient and having a
conversation and deciding what'sbest for them.
So in conventional dentistry, itmight be like, The tooth died,
now you need a root canal.
Period.
End of story.
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In biological dentistry, I'mgoing to sit with that patient
and say the tooth is dead.
We have the option of doing aroot canal or removing the
tooth.
Let's talk about you, yourcondition.
Do we think your immune systemcan handle that?
Do you have cancer?
Do you have a chronic diseasethat your immune system is so
busy fighting that we don't needanother challenge, right?
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So it's taking that individualapproach.
And on top of that, from areally techie standpoint, we're
using different things.
We use ozone, we use laser,we're using biocompatible
materials.
So our goal when we're actuallydoing the dentistry is also to
keep the tooth vital and alive,and to minimize inflammation and
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immune system activation.
Ivelisse Page (07:14):
Yes.
And I feel like your experienceat your office is night and day
difference than what most peopleexperience at a traditional
dentistry.
And, not only do you have thewater filters and tea and, just
beautiful environment, it facesthe window, very relaxing.
You have even warm neck pillowsthat, that helps to calm us.
But even during my procedure,when I had my amalgams removed
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and had the SMART removal, youguys also gave me, is it called
STEM?
Is that what it is?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (07:45):
Alpha STEM.
Ivelisse Page (07:46):
Alpha STEM.
And it just really was amazingnight and day difference in how
I felt because I was so coveredup and, we're taking all the
precautions not to get mercuryand be contaminated by that.
I felt a little claustrophobic.
And so you guys put that STEMon.
And I could immediately tell I,I became at peace and, at one
(08:09):
point I think the batteries weredying and I was like starting to
feel anxious again.
And I'm like, is this thingworking?
And sure enough, you change thebatteries and it's like calming
again.
It's unbelievable the tools thatyou have available.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (08:21):
Yeah.
And what you're talking about isthat connection between the
mouth and the body.
So you can have two completelydifferent experiences and
healing.
So if you were in my chair and Ilet you just be terrified or in
pain, claustrophobic, the wayyou're going to walk away and
the way your body is going toheal is going to be very
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different than if I get you calmand relaxed.
We get you into parasympathetic.
We can do that while we treatyou or the best that we can.
So you're not in that full likefight or flight.
You're going to heal better.
You're going to have less postop pain.
So that is important.
I think some people look at ouroffice and go, Oh, you just want
it to be very luxury.
(09:03):
Yes, we want people to have agreat experience, but all of
that matters in the way thatyour body responds to being in
the office.
It's important that when youwalk in, you're not like, Oh, it
smells like a dental office.
And now that's triggering amemory from when I'm a child.
Like we're trying to make sureyou have this fresh memory, your
body's calm, because it matters.
Ivelisse Page (09:20):
Yes.
Yes.
I've also heard that the teethhave meridians, right?
And that you had mentionedbefore certain chronic health
conditions that can be connectedto an infection, and I've even
had people who said that theyfound it interesting that the
tooth that they had issue with,the meridian ended up being a
breast cancer diagnosis, or haveyou found that to be true?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (09:44):
Yeah, what's wild is that the scientist in
you wants to see it, and youcan't see meridians.
But meridians are very valid andtrue, and it is a science.
It's what acupuncture is basedon that we have these energy
lines that run through the body,and the meridians are actually
connected to different teeth.
Yes, I have seen that.
I, in fact, when I was talkingabout CT, I was thinking about a
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patient who we took a CT onbecause we take them on all our
new patients.
She'd never had a cavity in herlife.
We had no reason to think shehad an infection because usually
it starts cavity or trauma.
But her, she had an infectedlower front tooth that she did
not know about and it was on themeridian of the cancer that she
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had.
Ivelisse Page (10:28):
Wow.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (10:29):
And she was like, and she came in going, I
know there's something else andI think it's something in my
mouth.
But she had no, no symptoms, noother indication.
The other thing that's prettyneat is like thermography.
So when you talk about breastcancer, I have had thermograms
sent to us where it's a hotspotfrom a tooth, which is typically
your first upper molar, straightdown to the breast, right?
(10:52):
And so they're going, okay,we're seeing changes in the
breast and we think it's relatedto this infection, this chronic
low grade infection in themouth.
Ivelisse Page (11:00):
Incredible.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (11:02):
Again, it's not isolated.
Your teeth are not isolated fromyour body.
Ivelisse Page (11:06):
No.
And we're all interconnectedparts, right?
Whether it's physical,emotional, spiritual, we always
tend to focus on one or theother.
And when you group all of thatinformation together as a whole
person, you really see a muchbigger picture in the healing
process.
So I'm so glad that you guys dothat.
Now, what types of materials dobiological dentists use for
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fillings or crowns and otherprocedures?
And why are they consideredsafer?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (11:34):
So in general, we're going to avoid
metals when possible.
And that's because speaking ofmeridians, meridians are
energetic, right?
If we put a metal on a meridian,it's blocking it.
So we're staying away frommetals when we can.
The other thing about metals inthe mouth, specifically, would
be like mercury fillings.
We know mercury is a toxin.
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The ADA would say, when it's inyour mouth, it's amalgamated,
it's stuck with other metals, soit shouldn't be exposing you.
But if you want to go on a deepdive, go to the International
Academy of Oral Medicine andToxicology.
They have all the researchshowing that if it's in your
mouth, every time you're eating,because of friction and heat, it
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is releasing mercury.
So we're staying away from that.
We're going to be using ceramicsor porcelains instead.
So our crowns are made of acertain type of porcelain called
zirconia, which is differentfrom zirconium, which is a
metal.
So we're using ceramics.
Even our composite that we use,of course it has no BPA, no
Bis-GMA, but even the particlesin it, instead of being plastic
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are made out of ceramic.
So we're trying to use the mostinert, Inactive materials.
I will tell you though, thereare some people that know
they're sensitive to everything.
I had one in the chair yesterdayand she was like, I'm just
sensitive to everything, right?
Like she doesn't.
lotionsgetter, all kinds ofthings getter.
For those particular patients,we can actually do a
biocompatibility test, which iswhere they check the blood to a
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whole bunch of dental materials.
And then we know, is there acertain one we can use that's
going to be better or worse forthat person and really
personalize it that way.
Ivelisse Page (13:13):
That is fascinating.
Fascinating that you can go tothat extent and individualize
care, which is what should bedone.
So can you share the potentialhealth risks associated with
mercury amalgam fillings and theprocess to safely remove them
like you did for me?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (13:31):
Yes.
so mercury is a knownneurotoxin, right?
I think when they firstdiscovered it, it was from the
hat makers, Mad Hatter'sDisease.
You have depression, there'sneurological issues, suicide,
all kinds of things.
But in addition to that, it'sgoing to be contributing to your
toxic load in your body.
And more and more, I think we'rebecoming aware of toxicity
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because we are exposed to somany chemicals now.
You know, a hundred years ago,they probably didn't think about
it much because you only hadlittle exposures in your life.
Now, it's everywhere, all thetime.
And, we don't know at what pointtoxicity is going to cause a
problem with people, but onceyou sort of reach the burden
level, now it becomes a problem.
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So if you come in and you wantthem out at our office, what we
don't want to do is drill it outand expose you to a bunch of
mercury.
When I put a drill on thatfilling, it's going to release
mercury vapor.
So it's important that you getprotected from inhaling it.
So you have oxygen mask on.
We also want to make sure it'snot getting in your mouth.
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You're not ingesting it.
It's not getting on your skin.
So you do get, as you got toexperience, like fully covered.
You have a rubber dam on whichkind of holds everything out of
your mouth.
We have special, like I wear aspecial mask, so I'm not
breathing it all the time.
I'm fully covered.
You're fully covered.
And then there's this big vacuumthat's pulling all the vapors
off.
And that's, again, we don't wantyou to walk away and go, wow, I
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felt really bad for like weeksafter I had that filling done,
which I do have patients whowill say, I did it somewhere
else.
I didn't use the SMART protocolwhich is Safe Mercury Amalgam
Removal Technique, and they feelsick afterwards because the
toxic burden is too much, right?
The other thing that I findreally important is if you have
a practitioner who knows youwell.
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So I know you, some of youraudience may have cancer, right?
And they say, okay, I need toget this out.
Well, we might want to make surewith that practitioner that
you're at a good place to dothat at this time before we just
jump in and do it.
We need to make sure detoxpathways are clear and all of
that.
That's not, of course, what Ido, but partnering with those
providers to make sure that youare ready to do it.
Ivelisse Page (15:42):
Yes.
Yeah.
And you did that with myintegrative practitioner, which
I was very grateful for.
And something that you also didthat I found really helpful is
that you had a protocol withsupplements prior, whether it
was charcoal and glutathione.
Can you share a little bit aboutwhat you have patients do before
and after in preparation?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (16:03):
Yes, so the supplements before and after are
the same, but we're using somesort of binder, activated
charcoal is the one that wetypically recommend, that you
start taking before.
And that's because if you haveamalgam fillings in your mouth
and you're constantly ingestinga little bit, you've got mercury
in your gut, even if you've beendoing detoxing.
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So, leading up, we are clearingout the gut a little bit.
So that if you have an exposure,it's not immediately getting
absorbed.
So we're doing that before andafter we're supporting your
antioxidants just so we can helpsupport your detox system, so
glutathione and vitamin C.
We do talk a little bit aboutgut health.
Of course, that's not, again,what I do, but for people who
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maybe don't have a practitioner,we want to make sure digestion
is working, and elimination,right?
So like just making sure thatgut is working.
And some of our patients too,they might go and do a Myers,
did you do that?
Ivelisse Page (17:00):
I did.
I actually did a high dosevitamin C is what I went after.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (17:06):
Yeah, so they like the day of or the day
after people might go get an IVso that you're like, okay They
did all the protocol.
I don't hopefully have muchexposure, but anything that's in
my system that vitamin C ishelping eliminate
Ivelisse Page (17:19):
Yeah, and most people like you said would
probably do the Myers But I didthe high dose just because it
was I guess six six months maybenine months post my original
surgery.
So we really wanted to make surethat, my body was healing well.
And yeah, like you said, it'sreally important to, if you're
in a cancering process or justpast the cancering process, that
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you really talk the specificswith your integrative
practitioner so that you do itin a place where you are coming
from place of strength.
And, I've had people ask me allthroughout these years, you've
had these amalgam fillingsIvelisse, this mercury filling
since you were 13, and why haveyou waited so long to get them
out?
And, and initially when I lookedinto it after my first cancer
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diagnosis, I asked mypractitioner and he, at that
time, the SMART removal wasn'taround.
And he also said that, at thispoint, you just keep healing and
half of it is already in yourbones.
And I didn't realize that.
And what pushed me to get themdone this time was that as you
did your checkup, one, the SMARTremoval process is in place, but
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two, I also really realized thatmine were leeching.
And it's so they were when I waseating hot things or grinding my
teeth or whatever it is.
I was getting slightly poisonedevery day.
So let's get rid of that.
I don't need any more of that.
And so I can honestly tell youthat I feel better without them
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in there.
I don't know if it's the placeboeffect or not, but I can
literally tell that I feelbetter and so I really encourage
people to really look into thatif you still have mercury
fillings to really check them,one, to make sure they're not
leaching and two, to find a wayto get them removed if possible.
And how does oral health impactour overall wellness?
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So are there specific diseasesor conditions where you have
seen a notable improvement afteraddressing the dental health
issues?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (19:21):
Well, yes, I think there's more than we're
even aware of because if we lookfrom a really like zoom way out
beyond diagnosis, a lot of timesdental infections are a source
of inflammation, right?
And we know inflammation isoften just that root cause of
things going haywire.
With dental disease, so if wetalk about gum disease,
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periodontal disease, there'salso certain bacteria that have
known correlations to cancers.
We know that if we haveuncontrolled gum disease, it
will impact a person's abilityto regulate their blood glucose.
That is well known, and itshould be known by all dentists,
not just biologic dentists.
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If we can control gum disease,it will help people control
blood glucose, well known.
Other things we see in the mouthis a lot of times the mouth
shows signs of an airway or anairway issue, sleep apnea
issues.
That can be highly correlated tostroke and high blood pressure.
So there's all these things,signs, symptoms, the bacteria
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that really impact the rest ofthe body.
Ivelisse Page (20:29):
Yes.
And so what natural orpreventive measures do you
recommend for maintaining goodoral health and how does
nutrition play a role here?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (20:38):
Oh, absolutely.
You know, when you think aboutnutrition, dentists were the
first ones to talk about it.
We know that diets high incarbohydrates and sugars, candy,
soda, that's going to causecavities, right?
So the nutrition part, yes, youguys maybe have heard that from
any dentist.
We know about hygiene.
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A few of the other things thatare very impactful are gut
health.
So the mouth is the start of thegut.
If you have a gut issue, it'svery likely that the microbiome
in your mouth is also off.
Reflux, a lot of people havereflux, whether it's related to
sleep apnea or just a digestiveissue.
But with reflux, we'll see thepH of the mouth become too
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acidic and people become proneto disease.
So improving gut health is huge.
Making sure that people areabsorbing nutrients.
It's huge, that's also kind ofpart of gut health, right?
Like, are you absorbing yourfats?
Are we getting those importantfat soluble vitamins and
minerals out of our food andactually absorbing it?
One of the other things that issuper impactful is the way that
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we breathe.
So, nasal breathing is reallyimportant for keeping the mouth
healthy.
When we breathe through ourmouth, it dries the mouth out.
It favors the more pathologicbacteria in the mouth.
So we're always talking, lookingat airway in association with
dental as well, because it'soften one of the gut health and
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airway are often kind of thoseroot cause that we're looking
at.
Ivelisse Page (22:10):
Yes.
Yes.
And so how do biologicaldentists manage infections
without the use of harshchemicals?
I know you touched on itearlier, but I would love for
you to expand on that.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (22:22):
Yeah, definitely.
So, when I think that kind ofthe scary infections are the
ones where you have an abscessedtooth, whether it's symptomatic
or not, you have an infectedtooth, that infection is
damaging the bone.
When we take a tooth out,conventionally the tooth comes
out, you're given a piece ofgauze, you bite on it, you're
done.
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When you have a tooth removed ina biologic office, we're going
to make sure that we do a fewother things.
One, we're removing theperiodontal ligament, which is
the ligament that attaches thetooth to the bone.
And that's because that ligamentis all infected as well.
That gets removed, and then weknow that we have these tiny
little bacteria in this, theporosity of the bone, that we're
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not going to get rid of all thebone, but we can then go in with
laser and ozone to help kill thebacteria in the bone.
One of the other things thatwould be done typically at a
biologic office is if you'veever heard of a dry socket,
that's when after the fact youhad a tooth taken out and you
get an infection in the bonebecause there's no blood clot
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protecting it.
We're going to take some of theperson's blood, make their own
clot, and put it in there.
So we're kind of speeding up theprocess of healing by about
three days, protecting the boneimmediately.
So we're kind of, we'vedisinfected the socket, we put
that in, it's now protected, andthen we just have better
outcomes.
The other thing is, we useantibiotics when we have to.
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Sometimes we have to.
You know, if I have somebody whohas uh, immune system that's
struggling or is preoccupiedwith something else.
I may use a systemic antibiotic,but my first go-to is gonna be
using ozone gas in that area asa local antibiotic so we can
actually inject it around theinfection.
It kills the bacteria, but italso sparks the immune system to
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come to the area and startcleaning, it's very helpful.
We use ozone in pretty muchevery procedure as well as
laser.
Ivelisse Page (24:18):
Yes.
I saw the benefit of the ozoneimmediately after my cleanings
and to do the ozone on my gumsand then they weren't swollen
for a day after the cleaning.
So it's really helpful to havethat be a part of the process.
What advancements in technologydo you find most promising in
biological dentistry?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (24:40):
I would say ozone is an old technology, but
it's actually starting to gaintraction.
Ozone is one that I don't thinkI could practice without
anymore.
It's just O3.
So I like to tell my patientsit's a super oxygen.
It breaks down really quickly tooxygen and peroxides.
It sparks your immune system.
So that's huge.
It's not expensive.
It's easy to use.
(25:02):
Technologically, laser is huge.
So laser is using light energyfor stimulating healing,
disinfecting, even growing bonethat we never thought we could
do before.
Those are all huge.
The other thing that's reallyexciting and newer, but has been
around long enough that it'ssafe to use are zirconia
implants.
(25:22):
So instead of using titanium,which is metal, and is often
mixed with other things likenickel, zirconia is ceramic
material, it's strong, and tosee the way the body heals
around it, compared to titanium,is amazing.
Even the surgeons who are notbiologic, they'll be like, yeah,
(25:43):
it, the gums are so much happieraround it.
Ivelisse Page (25:46):
Yes, I've noticed that personally myself when you
replaced one of the crowns thatI had to get replaced.
So yeah, the gums are happier.
What advice would you give tosomeone looking to transition
from a conventional dentist to abiological dentist?
How would they find them?
What advice would you give them?
Dr. Sharla Aronson (26:06):
I think a great way to find them would be
look at the InternationalAcademy of Oral Medicine and
Toxicology.
They'll have a list of peoplewho are part of the I-A-O-N-T.
They'll also specify peoplewho've gone through the training
to be certified in the SMARTremoval.
So what that means is that thosepeople have all of the things
(26:28):
needed, and they've shown thatthey do it that way.
They also have an accreditationsystem, which is, I think it was
16 hours of training, at least,in addition to reading a lot of
research on all different facetsof biologic dentistry.
So that you're not just going tosomeone who puts on a rubber dam
(26:48):
and takes out your amalgam andsays that it's safe.
It's somebody who understandsthe deeper implications of why
we're doing it.
Things like timing, like we weretalking about.
We, we waited for quite a whilebefore you, we took yours out.
I didn't meet you and do itimmediately.
We waited and that's because wehave a greater understanding of
what can happen if we don't doit correctly.
(27:10):
So I'd look at the IAOMT.
And, or there's a couple otherorganizations, Holistic Dental
Society.
And then I would be preparedthat it's going to be different
than what you typicallyexperience.
Most people at a conventionaloffice are getting maybe 15
minutes with a doctor, maybetheir whole appointment takes, I
(27:32):
don't know, an hour.
When you come to a biologicoffice, you're going to have a
lot more conversation.
We're going to ask a lot ofthings about your history, not
medically, personally, dentally.
We're really trying to puttogether the pieces of what's
going on.
Oftentimes doing a consultationlater, but also getting those
images, right, of the 3D andthose kinds of things.
(27:53):
So at our office, our patientstypically spend about three
hours with us.
Two at the new patient, one atthe consult.
I spend time in between.
Which means you're going toinvest more in it, but what you
get out of it is also so muchgreater.
You get a really, it allows usto like really zoom out.
What's the big picture?
What are the things?
The plans we make might beseveral years.
(28:16):
Phase one, phase two, how do wekind of get you to the point?
Our goal is always like, how dowe get you to the point if
you're healing yourself andyou're just, you're not having
more disease?
Ivelisse Page (28:25):
Yes.
thank you so much for sharingyour insight with us today.
I mean, it's valuableinformation and we will put the
links to the site to find abiological dentist in your area
in the show notes.
So if anyone's interested inlooking into this further, we'll
make sure to put those in theshow notes.
And thank you so much, Sharla,for being my amazing dentist.
(28:47):
I appreciate you so much and afriend.
I really appreciate all that youdo for us.
And thank you again for yourtime today.
This was really fascinating tohear about.
Dr. Sharla Aronson (28:57):
Thanks so much for having me.
I really valued our timetogether.
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