September 19, 2025 • 27 mins
Ben and Bash preview AEW All Out, breaking down each match on the stacked card and making their predictions for the pay-per-view event.
Join us for this preview that captures all the nuance, excitement, and strategic implications of AEW's event, happening alongside WWE's competing show. Wrestling fans face tough viewing choices this weekend let our analysis help you navigate this celebration of professional wrestling at its most dramatic.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Ben I'm Bash.
It's time to list up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, here we are for another one.
We're going to be doing AEW AllOut, so pretty big weekend for
wrestling this week.
You got All Out coming on andthen later on that night you got
the first WrestlePalooza, theWESPN.
So, yeah, let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
All right For the first match on the card.
It's Darby Allin versus JonMoxley in a coffin match.
So for this one a coffin matchyou just have to put your
opponent in a coffin right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, a coffin match.
Okay, Same as a casket matchsame match.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So, um, for this one I feel like it could go either
way, but I think I mean, theDeath Riders probably have a
part in this too, you know.
Um, but I'm probably gonna sayDarby Allen, maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, darby Allen you got the death riders, though.
So yeah, I think the deathriders are gonna be there.
So you say you got Darby.
I mean Darby just coming back.
Yeah, I would say I mean Darbyjust coming back.
(01:29):
Yeah, yeah, I would say.
I would say I would say Darbyagain probably.
Yeah, I mean like it's harderbecause God, dang Garcia just
turned.
Yeah, I'm still with Darby,though Still with Darby pulling
it off.
He always pulls out crazy stuffespecially in a match like this
.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, so that's what you're going to do.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it's going to be a bloody match.
I mean, it's going to be someblood in this match for sure.
You already know that.
But anytime Moxley match, theyadd Darby.
Come on now.
It's going to be some greatestmatch, but it's going to be.
It's going to be a hardcorematch for sure.
That's how you should call it,yeah, but um.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
For second match on the card it's Mark Briscoe
versus MGF and a tables andtacks match.
So for this one it's just anormal match, but there's tables
and them texts is that what itis?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, let me double check.
Pretty sure I think that's whatit is.
Uh, it's the tables andthumbtacks match yeah uh, yeah,
it's basically thosequalification match.
yeah, that's what it looks like.
Yeah, it's just a nosequalification match.
(02:47):
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
Yeah, it's just a nosequalification match.
So pretty much, so pretty muchanything can go in this match.
It looks like I mean, obviouslyyou can go in there and have
tables and thumbtacks, butbasically it's like a nose
qualification match.
It's just like a stipulationwhere it's just something, you
know, like a bloodline match orsomething like that, or
Marshall's ball match, what thebitches do back in TNA, stuff
(03:08):
like that.
It's just a stipulation match,but it's basically no
qualification match.
Probably no rules.
Only way to win is probablyinside the ring submission or
pinfall.
Yep.
So who do you guys want to have?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So for this one, I mean, I feel like MJF probably
would win, but I don't know,what do you think I'm probably
going to say MJF, maybe.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I'm going to say MJF just because he's still
trying to go for a title yeah,and I would say MJF is still.
I'm going to say MJF justbecause he's still trying to go
for the title yeah, and I wouldsay MJF is still—I'm going to
say MJF is going to win thismatch.
I mean, mark Briscoe's a goodwrestler, but MJF, I think, is
going to put out moreunderhanded tactics, you know,
more heel stuff.
It's like he always wins thesekind of matches, it seems like,
(04:02):
because he always can dosomething you're not expecting
him to do.
So, yeah, I mean much like theBriscoes, especially Mark
Briscoe.
You know all of them.
But yeah, I'm going to go aheadand go with MJF to win this one
, just because he's trying toget back to a title picture.
I mean, he still has thecontract in his hand, correct?
(04:23):
Mm-hmm, I'm pretty sure I meanhe still has the contract in his
hand, correct?
Mm-hmm, I'm pretty sure.
So he still has the title matchwhen he wants, because when he
wrestled Adam Page before, thecontract wasn't on the line.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Because of the stipulations.
So he still has that match.
So I think he needs this matchto get himself back on that
trajectory.
To win.
He'll get back to his belt, ashe called it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, so you're going to say I'm GF2?
Yeah, I'm going to say GF2 sofor our next match, it's Cope
and Christian versus FTR.
So for this one, cope andChristian.
They just came back.
Ftr turned heel on Edge or Copeum uh, and so I see this going
(05:11):
either way, but I'm pretty sureCope and Christian are gonna win
, given storyline yeah, yeah,I'm gonna say Cope.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean especially with, uh, one of the guys from
FTR broke his nose.
Uh, yeah, well, he broke hisnose.
Yeah, you didn't see him.
Well, I know he's bleeding, butI didn't know he announced
today broke his nose the otherday.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, he broke his nose.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, you didn't see him.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I know he's bleeding, but I didn't know.
He broke his nose.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
He announced it today .
He broke his nose so he's stillin wrestling.
He probably still had one ofthem mask on.
He had one of them mask on tobe wearing.
I didn't wear one of them,breaking nose, but what 10 years
?
Mm-hmm, something like that.
I just don't see them losingtheir second match back as a tag
(05:52):
team.
I mean, granted, this should bea good tag team.
I mean, you got two of the besttag teams in history wrestling
each other.
Granted, cope and Christianaren't what they used to be, you
know, 15 years ago, but they'restill one of the greatest tag
teams of all time.
Look what the Hardy boys aredoing right now.
Yeah, you know so just wishingwe had that last, that last
(06:15):
match with all three of themDudley's, hardy's yeah because
the Dudley's challenged theHardy's and if they were still
in the company, they could havedid a triple threat.
I wish they could, but itdoesn't like it's going to
happen.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And they're back together too.
That would make perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's what I'm saying, but sometimes it has to
happen that way.
But so for right now, until ifwe get to that point, but for
right now we're just going to beglad that Adam Cope and
Christian are back together forthe first time in years and
hopefully still have thatcamaraderie and that tag team
cohesiveness like they didbefore.
But yeah, I'm going to go withAdam Copeland and Christian Cage
(06:53):
to win Work their way back up.
It should be one of the bettermatches on the card too.
I mean the whole card isstacked, but this should
definitely be one of the bettermatches as far as tag team
matches for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, so for next match on the card it's Mercedes
Monnet versus Rio for the AWTBSChampionship.
So, mercedes, she has a bunchof belts, um, so I don't see
like her losing for a long timeany of her belts.
Really, I don't see her losingfor a really long time, at least
(07:26):
not the main belts.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Anyway, she may lose some of the smaller belts, yeah,
but not the main belts?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't think yeah, so I see her just pulling out
yeah, and Rio's just not comingback too.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Uh, I wonder where she's been at all this time.
But yeah, she's coming back.
Uh, challenging Mercedes, yeah,I mean, unless something
happens, I don't see Mercedeslosing the belt in this match.
You know it's a thing.
There's something like thatcomes out, interfere, cause for
the match or something like that, but and then that would have
her go out there and thinkthat's where I want to win the
(08:00):
championship.
But unless something happens, Idon't see her losing, which not
right now.
You know she's the billcollector for a reason.
That's what she's doing.
So, yeah, I don't see herlosing.
Should be a pretty good women'smatch.
Rio does pretty solid matchesand we all know what Mercedes
has been doing over the yearsfrom different companies.
(08:20):
I don't know if it's AEW whatshe does.
So, yeah, should be a prettygood women's match.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, you have Mercedes, yeah, mercedes, yeah,
yeah, mercedes and yeah, but forthe next match on the card,
it's the Hurts Syndicate versusRicochet and the Gates of Agony
and a trios match.
So for this one, mvp's also inthis match, which I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, he's part Hurts Syndicate.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, because I was confused how were they going to
do a trios match?
Because I didn't know.
Yep, he's probably hurt, sonaked.
Yeah, because I was confused.
How was they going to do atrios match?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Because I didn't know MVP was still currently
wrestling.
Yeah, he doesn't wrestle allthe time anymore, but he still
does.
I mean he's 56, I think.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Something like that.
Yeah, so he's up there in ageas far as wrestling goes, but
he's still young, because theseguys can wrestle longer, or
wrestle older rather.
So he doesn't wrestle as much,so he's not putting his body
through as much wear and tear assomebody who wrestles all the
time at that age.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's also doing a tag team type match, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So y'all don't do as much.
Plus, you got Shelton and Bobbytwo of the better motors in
wrestling as far as cardio andendurance and stuff like that,
so he won't do too much in thismatch.
I mean, he do his normal MVPstuff and then just sit down and
hype his team up.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And watch Bobby and Sheldon win Win.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That's what you think .
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, I mean, it's like this.
I like Ricochet.
He's been doing some great worksince he's been in AEW, I mean
top tier, you know.
Gates of Agony, that's a greatcombo with him and with Demi
Ricochet, it's a great combo,yeah, so you know, I mean you
got three guys who a year ago,you know, people were like huh,
(10:13):
now they're part of the mainpicture.
They're on there every week.
Whether it's a backstageinterview or doing something in
the ring, they're on TV prettymuch every week.
Now, you know.
So Gates' acting went from notbeing on TV or being on RTV.
And then Ricochet, we know whathe did.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That was his last thing before he left yeah, he
was still in the company like inSeptember-ish yeah yeah, but
but yeah so it should be a goodmatch.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Though I mean as much as I want to see Ricochet and
Gacy Agnew win, I just don'tthink they can match up with
Bobby and Shelton.
I mean any P can kind of dowhat he does, but Bobby and
Shelton are just too together,too strong.
I just don't see them allbeating them.
You know them two anyways.
(11:04):
So that's why I'm going withBobby.
I mean I'm not going to be madif Rick Shaker wins.
I'm not going to be, mad if theymatch either.
I'm not going to be mad if theymatch either Either one of
these teams I root for, but Igot to pick somebody, so I'm
going to pick Bobby and Sheltonto win.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I was going to say that, but I don't know.
I think Ricochet just doessomething To let his team win.
So I'm going to say, ricochet,it's good.
Yep so yeah, to let his teamwin.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So I'm going to say Ricochet.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Damn, that's good.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yep, so yeah, for the next match it's Big Bill versus
Eddie Kingston, and EddieKingston was turned match right,
or did he have a match before?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I think this is his first match back.
Yeah, I'm like, this is hisfirst match back.
I didn't see him.
Did you see him wrestle?
I didn't see him wrestle.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
No, I'm pretty sure I think he just came out yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But um, he's been out with injury for a while.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Mm-hmm, I feel like with anybody.
Unless it's just a rareoccasion or the storyline, I
don't see him losing, especiallyto Big Boo.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Especially in his first match back from injury too
.
Yeah, yeah, so you got EddieKingston.
Yeah, so you get a case yeah, Ibet yeah, I got.
You can't say one or two, so heshould win.
I said he's back from injury,came here with kind of rehab,
but he's been out for a whilewith injuries or it might be
(12:25):
only one injury or multipleinjuries or whatever case was,
but he has been out with injury.
Um, he's back now wrestling bigbill, which is probably down on
the pre-show, but it's eddiekingston and he's the main
roster guy or main main eventguy really.
I mean he wrestled for thetitle a few times yeah and he's
back now uh, do you ever win thetotal?
(12:46):
no, no.
But yeah, this should be a notsay easy match, because it's Big
Bill Not going to disrespectBig Bill at all like that.
But Eddie Kingston, unless he'srusty which he could be he
should win this match prettygood.
I mean, like I said, unless thepeople come in and get involved
or something like that happens.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But just one-on I think Andy Kingston wins this
match pretty easy.
Yeah, but for the next match onthe card it's Brody Overs, the
Young Bucks versus Chet Speedversus the Don Callis family for
the AEW Tag Team Championships.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Is that one Brody, though Brody Versus who else?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Young Bucks versus Chet Speed versus Don Callis.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So for this one I don't know.
I don't see the Young Buckswinning because they're doing
the whole storyline with theirmoney and Nicholas spending all
the money.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, all of it, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He's just handing it out like candy.
Yeah, as soon as he got itFirst time he got money, just
handing it out like candy.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, as soon as he got it First time he got money,
he handed it out like that, thenthey're probably going to go
broke again, because of that,unless they win the bills, then
they can get them back into themoney.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, and then Matthew's actually using common
sense though, but I hope it'snot with them?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, because I don't think their characters work
separated.
What I'm saying is, hopefully,the way they're doing it, with
one of them is doing this andthe other one is doing the
opposite, I hope it's not withthem to break up.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know, because it's easy to be the way you
break them up right here,hopefully that's just the way
they're going, but hopefullythat's not the case, hopefully
they stick as a tag team Pleasefor at least for a little bit
more time.
You know I mean eventually.
I know they probably want tobreak up eventually and do their
own thing, one-on-one, like thehearties did and I'm coping,
christian.
Any great tag teams always breakup at some point time even
(14:43):
though Brothers always everygreat set will all gonna say new
day because it's Kofi and his aperson together.
But most tag teams break upeventually.
You know most great tag teamseventually break up at some
point in time, you know.
But yeah, so I'm going to gowith.
Who are you going with on thisone?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm going with Proteo .
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Proteo?
Yeah, I mean as much as I.
I would like to see whathappens if the young Bucks win.
Yeah, I really want to see whathappens if the young Bucks win.
I just don't think they'regoing to beat Brodeo right now
yeah they just won achampionship what?
earlier this summer, yeah, so Idon't see them losing that fast.
I mean it's fast, I mean it'sAEW, though they could lose the
(15:28):
belt overnight, but I just don'tsee them losing right now.
So, with that being said, yeah,I got Brodito to retain and
defend their belts, but itshould be a pretty good tag team
.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah definitely.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All four of those teams are pretty solid wrestlers
too, mm-hmm.
So.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's what you're going to say.
Yeah, my next match is OkadaTekechte and Mascara Dorada for
the AW Unified Championship.
For this one, I mean, they allwon the qualifying matches, so
yeah, but Okada the continentaltitle he had right.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, it's the Unified.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
No, no, like the one he had before.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, he's been holding that title for a very
long time and I don't I mean hecould lose, but I don't see him
getting beaten or pinned, so I'mgoing to say Okada to win.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yep, I'm going to go on a wild card here because I
want to see the storylinedevelop.
For this, I'm going to go withTekechka winning.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Because they're both in a Dunn College family.
Well, for right now, I want tosee what happens when Tekechka
wins and now he's the championand Okada's not.
Do they get a rematch?
I want to see what thatstoryline goes.
You know nothing to take awayfrom the other ones, but I think
it's a two man race betweenOkada and Tekechka, you know.
(17:06):
So, yeah, I'm going to go withTekechka for storyline purposes,
and I'm just curious to see howthey do it with the, with Dunn
College, both of them in DunnCollege family and one of them
beating the other one for thebelt.
And plus it's a four way, soyou don't have to pin Okada to
win the belt.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He can pin somebody else to win the belt, he don't
got to pin Okada Mm-hmm, whichmakes it even more exciting for
the storyline If he doesn't pinOkada and wins Okada's going to
win this belt back, mm-hmm, andhe's not going to give it to him
.
He's already acting, already alittle bit.
Yeah, you got me on for collegethen, yep, okay, all right,
cool.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So you're saying the catch too, the catch yep.
Mm-hmm.
So for the next match on thecard is Thomas, tony Snoddler
versus Jamie Hader, versus ChrisDatlander versus Tecla for the
AW Women's World Championship.
So for this one, I mean I'mpretty sure it could go.
(18:09):
Actually I think it's betweenTony and Jamie Ager.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Honestly yeah, this is a tough one, though all four
of them can go in the ring youknow, I mean, yes, this is
really a tough one though.
I mean, do you take the bill?
Really a tough one though?
I mean, do you take the billoff of Thomas after what she's
been doing?
Because whoever gets to billafter her is going to have some
big shoes to fill.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I mean she has to lose it eventually she does.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That's what I'm saying.
Is this the time you lose it ornot?
Because this is, you take thebill for her.
The's going to have a lot ofpressure on her.
Yeah, you know.
I mean, just look at anybodywho has the belt for a long
period of time and the personwho gets the ass thrown.
Can they hold the belt the waythe other person had it before
them?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know.
That being said, I mean all ofthem.
I mean Tecla's, new to AEW, notnew to wrestling, but new to
AEW.
I think she used to be Julia'stag team partner in Stardom.
But then you got Jamie Hayteryou know fan favorite by far,
one of her first matches backsince from injury.
Chris Statlander all that'sbeen solid.
(19:19):
Not sure what's going on withher.
And you know Mox and all them.
You know Death Riders and allthat.
She's going to join them andjoin with Marina, like this
could be the beginning of themgetting together.
If she loses this match, thenshe goes to join them and become
a tag team with Marina.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Or whatever the case is, but it looks like she's
going to it seems.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It seems like she's going to do what Dana Garcia did
and join them eventually.
Not sure if it's going to be onthis show or a different show.
The Death of Riders are againas much people as the Don Callis
family.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, exactly, so I got it for me.
I got it between Jamie Hinderis good.
I don't know if she's going towin her first match.
Back, though, tegla has a lotof momentum.
She's becoming a crowd favorite.
The little spider thing shedoes, kind of like Bray Wyatt
used to do, but instead of doingit from the ring rope she does
it in the middle of the ring,which is a little different.
Yeah, so I think it's betweenTecla and Tony, but I don't
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think right now is the time totake the belt from her right now
.
It's the time to take the beltfor her right now.
So I'm going to go withtimeless to retain the belt for
her right now, and maybe sheloses it toward the end of the
year, I think At World's End orsomething like that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But yeah, so you're saying timeless, are both of you
in there?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm going with timeless, but I think it's
between timeless and tecla.
I think one and two is going towin, but I'm going to edge out
on Tony.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah.
So for the main event, it'shangman on a page versus Kyle
Fletcher for the AEW WorldChampionship, and the
stipulation is if the Don Kyle'sfamily gets involved.
F Fletcher is DQ'd and he'salso stripped of his title.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
His TNT title.
Yep, that's how it works.
That's what the stipulation is.
So, it's going to be a legitone-on-one, go ahead, I'll say
what I think.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Go ahead, but yeah, that's what I was going to say.
They can't get involved.
So there's no shenanigans, atleast from them.
So I'm gonna say, even ifsomeone else gets involved, I
just don't see Hangman losing.
He, I mean, he didn't just getit, but like it's pretty fresh
you know it's pretty fresh,that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Uh, you couldn't have , you couldn't have a loophole
where it's not somebody from DonCal's family yeah they didn't
say.
They didn't say no interferenceat all.
They said no interference fromDon Cal's family.
That's a specific thing.
So if Cal Fletcher wants hisold taxing partner you know old
taxing partner without with aninjury, um, if he was to come
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back and join Cal Fletcher andDon Calell's family he wouldn't
be in Don Cowell's familytechnically right now.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, until he joins.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Until he joins, so technically he wouldn't be in
Don Cowell's family.
If it's somebody that's not inthe family right now, they can
use that as a loophole to bringup him interfering in the match,
because it didn't say ifthey're the Calvary's family.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Every single one of these matches, just another Don
Calvary's person appears, orsomeone who's, because they're
strong, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
He had a conglomerate right there, he had a bunch of
people.
It's crazy.
But yeah, I want to see Calvarywin, but didn't that make him a
double champ?
And, like you said, heyman justwon the belt too.
but this is because then thismjf feud with cal fletcher I
(22:55):
mean I don't think like they'retoo huge, I don't think they're
because I think mjf's gonna gethis belt back yeah, definitely
but so do you put the belt oncal fletcher for a short period
of time until MJF comes and getsit, or do you keep it on Adam
Page and let him and MJF feudover it?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I think you keep it on hangman yeah that's the
question.
I'm going to say hangman.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
If MJF didn't have that contract in his hand, I
would say Kyle Fletcher?
You would?
Yes, absolutely, becausethere's no threat to him right
now.
Yeah, but because MJF is stillout there with the contract.
If Kyle Fletcher did win it, hewouldn't have the belt that
long before MJF cashed in on him, mm-hmm.
That wouldn't be fair for him tohave his first title match, his
(23:37):
first title run in like thatwithin a few weeks after he wins
it, because he's too good of awrestler to not have the belt
for at least a few months.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
So you think MJF's going to use the contract in a
couple of weeks?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
No, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying just in general.
I was just throwing a numberout there, maybe a couple of
times.
I'm not saying if Kyle Fletcherwins he will, or after he's in
the hardcore buddy match andhe's on the ground, passed out,
then he may come out, you know.
So I'm going to go with AdamPage to retain, but I really
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want to see Kyle Fletcher winthough.
But it's just hard to goagainst Hangman right now.
The stuff he's been doing, eversince he's been shooting with
Swerve all the way up to now,he's been doing.
He's been having solid matchesacross the board, you know.
So, yeah, who you going for Onyours?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Heyman, heyman too.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yep, okay, so I can hold for Heyman.
This is a pretty stacked card.
Like I said, we didn't eventouch on the.
I think it's three pre-showmatches as well, but yeah, this
should be a pretty solid weekend.
I'm sure they're gonna bleedover into the other one, though
I'm sure I think AEW starts atthree, I think, and and usually
that's a little- it's probablyfour, right like probably four
(24:56):
hours yeah, it's probably gonnabe about four hours and then and
then because I suppose theystart at seven they start at
seven so that's gonna be rightinto it it's gonna, yeah, the
couple, the last couple matchesare gonna probably be at the
same time Rastapulso starts,yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
So I mean I really wish they would stop, you know,
counter countering each otherlike that, or WWE especially,
and then like but like they wereall at the same show, right,
but like AEW moved theirs back,but it's still or no, they
didn't move it back, it's justthe time zone.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No, it's Toronto.
No, is it?
No, they're in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Oh, oh Well, they just moved it back, which that
helped, but it's still a littlebit, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, it's giving people an option.
I just don't understand whythey have to come on at the same
time.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
WWE's just trying to be the number one top people.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, at one point in time you had WWE coming on
Sundays and then moved toSaturdays and then AEW started
coming on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I wish they would go back to that and AEW started
coming on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
But—.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And that way you can have Saturday for one and then
Sunday for the other.
If they're on the same week,you know.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, WWE, since TKO bought them right, Mm-hmm,
They've just been for money andthey're just trying to make the
most money.
I mean that's the business.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's what business do Business want to make the
most money.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, but like—.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But you're making those fans choose.
We shouldn't have to.
I mean, I can get WCW, wwe backin the day they were trying to
put each other out of businessand they were legit trying to
put each other out of business.
They both came on Monday nights, you know, I remember I mean
you weren't born yet, but Iremember switching back and
forth, trying to watch both ofthem and it was hard to do.
You might, you know you mighthave a match on here and forget
(26:43):
oh, shoot WCW's on, switch toWWW and then that match is over
with now Because you're lookingat WWE, or vice versa.
Wcw had a match on and youmissed a segment on WWE.
You don't know what happenedthere.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know so.
But AEW coming on Wednesdays,raw's coming on Mondays, man,
they're coming on Fridays, youdon't miss anything.
Yeah, fridays, you don't missanything.
So I don't understand why youdon't have their PLEs or
previews on different dates.
I mean, you got four weeks in amonth.
Four weeks in a month, I meanboth of them come on this week.
Then you got three weeks foryou to have anything on.
You know so.
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I mean there's enough room forboth of them to be able to put
shows on without them kind ofproducing each other on the same
day.
You know, yeah, but but anyways, enough of that.
But yeah, I'm just lookingforward to both of them.
Hopefully we can watch the mostAEW and, uh, then get into
(27:36):
watching Reza Palooza, becauseit's going, both of them are
going to be big cars, the way itlooks Both of them are.
So, yeah, anything else youhave to look for yet?
Nope, all right.
So, with that being said, I'mBen, I'm Bash.
This has been an episode of TagTeam Talk.
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Ben I'm Bash.
It's time to list up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, here we are for another one.
We're going to be doing AEW AllOut, so pretty big weekend for
wrestling this week.
You got All Out coming on andthen later on that night you got
the first WrestlePalooza, theWESPN.
So, yeah, let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
All right For the first match on the card.
It's Darby Allin versus JonMoxley in a coffin match.
So for this one a coffin matchyou just have to put your
opponent in a coffin right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, a coffin match.
Okay, Same as a casket matchsame match.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So, um, for this one I feel like it could go either
way, but I think I mean, theDeath Riders probably have a
part in this too, you know.
Um, but I'm probably gonna sayDarby Allen, maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, darby Allen you got the death riders, though.
So yeah, I think the deathriders are gonna be there.
So you say you got Darby.
I mean Darby just coming back.
Yeah, I would say I mean Darbyjust coming back.
(01:29):
Yeah, yeah, I would say.
I would say I would say Darbyagain probably.
Yeah, I mean like it's harderbecause God, dang Garcia just
turned.
Yeah, I'm still with Darby,though Still with Darby pulling
it off.
He always pulls out crazy stuffespecially in a match like this
.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, so that's what you're going to do.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it's going to be a bloody match.
I mean, it's going to be someblood in this match for sure.
You already know that.
But anytime Moxley match, theyadd Darby.
Come on now.
It's going to be some greatestmatch, but it's going to be.
It's going to be a hardcorematch for sure.
That's how you should call it,yeah, but um.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
For second match on the card it's Mark Briscoe
versus MGF and a tables andtacks match.
So for this one it's just anormal match, but there's tables
and them texts is that what itis?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, let me double check.
Pretty sure I think that's whatit is.
Uh, it's the tables andthumbtacks match yeah uh, yeah,
it's basically thosequalification match.
yeah, that's what it looks like.
Yeah, it's just a nosequalification match.
(02:47):
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
Yeah, it's just a nosequalification match.
So pretty much, so pretty muchanything can go in this match.
It looks like I mean, obviouslyyou can go in there and have
tables and thumbtacks, butbasically it's like a nose
qualification match.
It's just like a stipulationwhere it's just something, you
know, like a bloodline match orsomething like that, or
Marshall's ball match, what thebitches do back in TNA, stuff
(03:08):
like that.
It's just a stipulation match,but it's basically no
qualification match.
Probably no rules.
Only way to win is probablyinside the ring submission or
pinfall.
Yep.
So who do you guys want to have?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So for this one, I mean, I feel like MJF probably
would win, but I don't know,what do you think I'm probably
going to say MJF, maybe.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I'm going to say MJF just because he's still
trying to go for a title yeah,and I would say MJF is still.
I'm going to say MJF justbecause he's still trying to go
for the title yeah, and I wouldsay MJF is still—I'm going to
say MJF is going to win thismatch.
I mean, mark Briscoe's a goodwrestler, but MJF, I think, is
going to put out moreunderhanded tactics, you know,
more heel stuff.
It's like he always wins thesekind of matches, it seems like,
(04:02):
because he always can dosomething you're not expecting
him to do.
So, yeah, I mean much like theBriscoes, especially Mark
Briscoe.
You know all of them.
But yeah, I'm going to go aheadand go with MJF to win this one
, just because he's trying toget back to a title picture.
I mean, he still has thecontract in his hand, correct?
(04:23):
Mm-hmm, I'm pretty sure I meanhe still has the contract in his
hand, correct?
Mm-hmm, I'm pretty sure.
So he still has the title matchwhen he wants, because when he
wrestled Adam Page before, thecontract wasn't on the line.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Because of the stipulations.
So he still has that match.
So I think he needs this matchto get himself back on that
trajectory.
To win.
He'll get back to his belt, ashe called it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, so you're going to say I'm GF2?
Yeah, I'm going to say GF2 sofor our next match, it's Cope
and Christian versus FTR.
So for this one, cope andChristian.
They just came back.
Ftr turned heel on Edge or Copeum uh, and so I see this going
(05:11):
either way, but I'm pretty sureCope and Christian are gonna win
, given storyline yeah, yeah,I'm gonna say Cope.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean especially with, uh, one of the guys from
FTR broke his nose.
Uh, yeah, well, he broke hisnose.
Yeah, you didn't see him.
Well, I know he's bleeding, butI didn't know he announced
today broke his nose the otherday.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, he broke his nose.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, you didn't see him.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I know he's bleeding, but I didn't know.
He broke his nose.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
He announced it today .
He broke his nose so he's stillin wrestling.
He probably still had one ofthem mask on.
He had one of them mask on tobe wearing.
I didn't wear one of them,breaking nose, but what 10 years
?
Mm-hmm, something like that.
I just don't see them losingtheir second match back as a tag
(05:52):
team.
I mean, granted, this should bea good tag team.
I mean, you got two of the besttag teams in history wrestling
each other.
Granted, cope and Christianaren't what they used to be, you
know, 15 years ago, but they'restill one of the greatest tag
teams of all time.
Look what the Hardy boys aredoing right now.
Yeah, you know so just wishingwe had that last, that last
(06:15):
match with all three of themDudley's, hardy's yeah because
the Dudley's challenged theHardy's and if they were still
in the company, they could havedid a triple threat.
I wish they could, but itdoesn't like it's going to
happen.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And they're back together too.
That would make perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's what I'm saying, but sometimes it has to
happen that way.
But so for right now, until ifwe get to that point, but for
right now we're just going to beglad that Adam Cope and
Christian are back together forthe first time in years and
hopefully still have thatcamaraderie and that tag team
cohesiveness like they didbefore.
But yeah, I'm going to go withAdam Copeland and Christian Cage
(06:53):
to win Work their way back up.
It should be one of the bettermatches on the card too.
I mean the whole card isstacked, but this should
definitely be one of the bettermatches as far as tag team
matches for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, so for next match on the card it's Mercedes
Monnet versus Rio for the AWTBSChampionship.
So, mercedes, she has a bunchof belts, um, so I don't see
like her losing for a long timeany of her belts.
Really, I don't see her losingfor a really long time, at least
(07:26):
not the main belts.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Anyway, she may lose some of the smaller belts, yeah,
but not the main belts?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't think yeah, so I see her just pulling out
yeah, and Rio's just not comingback too.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Uh, I wonder where she's been at all this time.
But yeah, she's coming back.
Uh, challenging Mercedes, yeah,I mean, unless something
happens, I don't see Mercedeslosing the belt in this match.
You know it's a thing.
There's something like thatcomes out, interfere, cause for
the match or something like that, but and then that would have
her go out there and thinkthat's where I want to win the
(08:00):
championship.
But unless something happens, Idon't see her losing, which not
right now.
You know she's the billcollector for a reason.
That's what she's doing.
So, yeah, I don't see herlosing.
Should be a pretty good women'smatch.
Rio does pretty solid matchesand we all know what Mercedes
has been doing over the yearsfrom different companies.
(08:20):
I don't know if it's AEW whatshe does.
So, yeah, should be a prettygood women's match.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, you have Mercedes, yeah, mercedes, yeah,
yeah, mercedes and yeah, but forthe next match on the card,
it's the Hurts Syndicate versusRicochet and the Gates of Agony
and a trios match.
So for this one, mvp's also inthis match, which I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, he's part Hurts Syndicate.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, because I was confused how were they going to
do a trios match?
Because I didn't know.
Yep, he's probably hurt, sonaked.
Yeah, because I was confused.
How was they going to do atrios match?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Because I didn't know MVP was still currently
wrestling.
Yeah, he doesn't wrestle allthe time anymore, but he still
does.
I mean he's 56, I think.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Something like that.
Yeah, so he's up there in ageas far as wrestling goes, but
he's still young, because theseguys can wrestle longer, or
wrestle older rather.
So he doesn't wrestle as much,so he's not putting his body
through as much wear and tear assomebody who wrestles all the
time at that age.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He's also doing a tag team type match, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So y'all don't do as much.
Plus, you got Shelton and Bobbytwo of the better motors in
wrestling as far as cardio andendurance and stuff like that,
so he won't do too much in thismatch.
I mean, he do his normal MVPstuff and then just sit down and
hype his team up.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And watch Bobby and Sheldon win Win.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That's what you think .
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, I mean, it's like this.
I like Ricochet.
He's been doing some great worksince he's been in AEW, I mean
top tier, you know.
Gates of Agony, that's a greatcombo with him and with Demi
Ricochet, it's a great combo,yeah, so you know, I mean you
got three guys who a year ago,you know, people were like huh,
(10:13):
now they're part of the mainpicture.
They're on there every week.
Whether it's a backstageinterview or doing something in
the ring, they're on TV prettymuch every week.
Now, you know.
So Gates' acting went from notbeing on TV or being on RTV.
And then Ricochet, we know whathe did.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That was his last thing before he left yeah, he
was still in the company like inSeptember-ish yeah yeah, but
but yeah so it should be a goodmatch.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Though I mean as much as I want to see Ricochet and
Gacy Agnew win, I just don'tthink they can match up with
Bobby and Shelton.
I mean any P can kind of dowhat he does, but Bobby and
Shelton are just too together,too strong.
I just don't see them allbeating them.
You know them two anyways.
(11:04):
So that's why I'm going withBobby.
I mean I'm not going to be madif Rick Shaker wins.
I'm not going to be, mad if theymatch either.
I'm not going to be mad if theymatch either Either one of
these teams I root for, but Igot to pick somebody, so I'm
going to pick Bobby and Sheltonto win.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I was going to say that, but I don't know.
I think Ricochet just doessomething To let his team win.
So I'm going to say, ricochet,it's good.
Yep so yeah, to let his teamwin.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So I'm going to say Ricochet.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Damn, that's good.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yep, so yeah, for the next match it's Big Bill versus
Eddie Kingston, and EddieKingston was turned match right,
or did he have a match before?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I think this is his first match back.
Yeah, I'm like, this is hisfirst match back.
I didn't see him.
Did you see him wrestle?
I didn't see him wrestle.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
No, I'm pretty sure I think he just came out yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
But um, he's been out with injury for a while.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Mm-hmm, I feel like with anybody.
Unless it's just a rareoccasion or the storyline, I
don't see him losing, especiallyto Big Boo.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Especially in his first match back from injury too
.
Yeah, yeah, so you got EddieKingston.
Yeah, so you get a case yeah, Ibet yeah, I got.
You can't say one or two, so heshould win.
I said he's back from injury,came here with kind of rehab,
but he's been out for a whilewith injuries or it might be
(12:25):
only one injury or multipleinjuries or whatever case was,
but he has been out with injury.
Um, he's back now wrestling bigbill, which is probably down on
the pre-show, but it's eddiekingston and he's the main
roster guy or main main eventguy really.
I mean he wrestled for thetitle a few times yeah and he's
back now uh, do you ever win thetotal?
(12:46):
no, no.
But yeah, this should be a notsay easy match, because it's Big
Bill Not going to disrespectBig Bill at all like that.
But Eddie Kingston, unless he'srusty which he could be he
should win this match prettygood.
I mean, like I said, unless thepeople come in and get involved
or something like that happens.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But just one-on I think Andy Kingston wins this
match pretty easy.
Yeah, but for the next match onthe card it's Brody Overs, the
Young Bucks versus Chet Speedversus the Don Callis family for
the AEW Tag Team Championships.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Is that one Brody, though Brody Versus who else?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Young Bucks versus Chet Speed versus Don Callis.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So for this one I don't know.
I don't see the Young Buckswinning because they're doing
the whole storyline with theirmoney and Nicholas spending all
the money.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, all of it, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He's just handing it out like candy.
Yeah, as soon as he got itFirst time he got money, just
handing it out like candy.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, as soon as he got it First time he got money,
he handed it out like that, thenthey're probably going to go
broke again, because of that,unless they win the bills, then
they can get them back into themoney.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, and then Matthew's actually using common
sense though, but I hope it'snot with them?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, because I don't think their characters work
separated.
What I'm saying is, hopefully,the way they're doing it, with
one of them is doing this andthe other one is doing the
opposite, I hope it's not withthem to break up.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know, because it's easy to be the way you
break them up right here,hopefully that's just the way
they're going, but hopefullythat's not the case, hopefully
they stick as a tag team Pleasefor at least for a little bit
more time.
You know I mean eventually.
I know they probably want tobreak up eventually and do their
own thing, one-on-one, like thehearties did and I'm coping,
christian.
Any great tag teams always breakup at some point time even
(14:43):
though Brothers always everygreat set will all gonna say new
day because it's Kofi and his aperson together.
But most tag teams break upeventually.
You know most great tag teamseventually break up at some
point in time, you know.
But yeah, so I'm going to gowith.
Who are you going with on thisone?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm going with Proteo .
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Proteo?
Yeah, I mean as much as I.
I would like to see whathappens if the young Bucks win.
Yeah, I really want to see whathappens if the young Bucks win.
I just don't think they'regoing to beat Brodeo right now
yeah they just won achampionship what?
earlier this summer, yeah, so Idon't see them losing that fast.
I mean it's fast, I mean it'sAEW, though they could lose the
(15:28):
belt overnight, but I just don'tsee them losing right now.
So, with that being said, yeah,I got Brodito to retain and
defend their belts, but itshould be a pretty good tag team
.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah definitely.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All four of those teams are pretty solid wrestlers
too, mm-hmm.
So.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's what you're going to say.
Yeah, my next match is OkadaTekechte and Mascara Dorada for
the AW Unified Championship.
For this one, I mean, they allwon the qualifying matches, so
yeah, but Okada the continentaltitle he had right.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, it's the Unified.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
No, no, like the one he had before.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, he's been holding that title for a very
long time and I don't I mean hecould lose, but I don't see him
getting beaten or pinned, so I'mgoing to say Okada to win.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yep, I'm going to go on a wild card here because I
want to see the storylinedevelop.
For this, I'm going to go withTekechka winning.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Because they're both in a Dunn College family.
Well, for right now, I want tosee what happens when Tekechka
wins and now he's the championand Okada's not.
Do they get a rematch?
I want to see what thatstoryline goes.
You know nothing to take awayfrom the other ones, but I think
it's a two man race betweenOkada and Tekechka, you know.
(17:06):
So, yeah, I'm going to go withTekechka for storyline purposes,
and I'm just curious to see howthey do it with the, with Dunn
College, both of them in DunnCollege family and one of them
beating the other one for thebelt.
And plus it's a four way, soyou don't have to pin Okada to
win the belt.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
He can pin somebody else to win the belt, he don't
got to pin Okada Mm-hmm, whichmakes it even more exciting for
the storyline If he doesn't pinOkada and wins Okada's going to
win this belt back, mm-hmm, andhe's not going to give it to him
.
He's already acting, already alittle bit.
Yeah, you got me on for collegethen, yep, okay, all right,
cool.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So you're saying the catch too, the catch yep.
Mm-hmm.
So for the next match on thecard is Thomas, tony Snoddler
versus Jamie Hader, versus ChrisDatlander versus Tecla for the
AW Women's World Championship.
So for this one, I mean I'mpretty sure it could go.
(18:09):
Actually I think it's betweenTony and Jamie Ager.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Honestly yeah, this is a tough one, though all four
of them can go in the ring youknow, I mean, yes, this is
really a tough one though.
I mean, do you take the bill?
Really a tough one though?
I mean, do you take the billoff of Thomas after what she's
been doing?
Because whoever gets to billafter her is going to have some
big shoes to fill.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I mean she has to lose it eventually she does.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
That's what I'm saying.
Is this the time you lose it ornot?
Because this is, you take thebill for her.
The's going to have a lot ofpressure on her.
Yeah, you know.
I mean, just look at anybodywho has the belt for a long
period of time and the personwho gets the ass thrown.
Can they hold the belt the waythe other person had it before
them?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know.
That being said, I mean all ofthem.
I mean Tecla's, new to AEW, notnew to wrestling, but new to
AEW.
I think she used to be Julia'stag team partner in Stardom.
But then you got Jamie Hayteryou know fan favorite by far,
one of her first matches backsince from injury.
Chris Statlander all that'sbeen solid.
(19:19):
Not sure what's going on withher.
And you know Mox and all them.
You know Death Riders and allthat.
She's going to join them andjoin with Marina, like this
could be the beginning of themgetting together.
If she loses this match, thenshe goes to join them and become
a tag team with Marina.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Or whatever the case is, but it looks like she's
going to it seems.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It seems like she's going to do what Dana Garcia did
and join them eventually.
Not sure if it's going to be onthis show or a different show.
The Death of Riders are againas much people as the Don Callis
family.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, exactly, so I got it for me.
I got it between Jamie Hinderis good.
I don't know if she's going towin her first match.
Back, though, tegla has a lotof momentum.
She's becoming a crowd favorite.
The little spider thing shedoes, kind of like Bray Wyatt
used to do, but instead of doingit from the ring rope she does
it in the middle of the ring,which is a little different.
Yeah, so I think it's betweenTecla and Tony, but I don't
(20:23):
think right now is the time totake the belt from her right now
.
It's the time to take the beltfor her right now.
So I'm going to go withtimeless to retain the belt for
her right now, and maybe sheloses it toward the end of the
year, I think At World's End orsomething like that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But yeah, so you're saying timeless, are both of you
in there?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm going with timeless, but I think it's
between timeless and tecla.
I think one and two is going towin, but I'm going to edge out
on Tony.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah.
So for the main event, it'shangman on a page versus Kyle
Fletcher for the AEW WorldChampionship, and the
stipulation is if the Don Kyle'sfamily gets involved.
F Fletcher is DQ'd and he'salso stripped of his title.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
His TNT title.
Yep, that's how it works.
That's what the stipulation is.
So, it's going to be a legitone-on-one, go ahead, I'll say
what I think.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Go ahead, but yeah, that's what I was going to say.
They can't get involved.
So there's no shenanigans, atleast from them.
So I'm gonna say, even ifsomeone else gets involved, I
just don't see Hangman losing.
He, I mean, he didn't just getit, but like it's pretty fresh
you know it's pretty fresh,that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Uh, you couldn't have , you couldn't have a loophole
where it's not somebody from DonCal's family yeah they didn't
say.
They didn't say no interferenceat all.
They said no interference fromDon Cal's family.
That's a specific thing.
So if Cal Fletcher wants hisold taxing partner you know old
taxing partner without with aninjury, um, if he was to come
(22:00):
back and join Cal Fletcher andDon Calell's family he wouldn't
be in Don Cowell's familytechnically right now.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, until he joins.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Until he joins, so technically he wouldn't be in
Don Cowell's family.
If it's somebody that's not inthe family right now, they can
use that as a loophole to bringup him interfering in the match,
because it didn't say ifthey're the Calvary's family.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Every single one of these matches, just another Don
Calvary's person appears, orsomeone who's, because they're
strong, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
He had a conglomerate right there, he had a bunch of
people.
It's crazy.
But yeah, I want to see Calvarywin, but didn't that make him a
double champ?
And, like you said, heyman justwon the belt too.
but this is because then thismjf feud with cal fletcher I
(22:55):
mean I don't think like they'retoo huge, I don't think they're
because I think mjf's gonna gethis belt back yeah, definitely
but so do you put the belt oncal fletcher for a short period
of time until MJF comes and getsit, or do you keep it on Adam
Page and let him and MJF feudover it?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I think you keep it on hangman yeah that's the
question.
I'm going to say hangman.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
If MJF didn't have that contract in his hand, I
would say Kyle Fletcher?
You would?
Yes, absolutely, becausethere's no threat to him right
now.
Yeah, but because MJF is stillout there with the contract.
If Kyle Fletcher did win it, hewouldn't have the belt that
long before MJF cashed in on him, mm-hmm.
That wouldn't be fair for him tohave his first title match, his
(23:37):
first title run in like thatwithin a few weeks after he wins
it, because he's too good of awrestler to not have the belt
for at least a few months.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
So you think MJF's going to use the contract in a
couple of weeks?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
No, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying just in general.
I was just throwing a numberout there, maybe a couple of
times.
I'm not saying if Kyle Fletcherwins he will, or after he's in
the hardcore buddy match andhe's on the ground, passed out,
then he may come out, you know.
So I'm going to go with AdamPage to retain, but I really
(24:11):
want to see Kyle Fletcher winthough.
But it's just hard to goagainst Hangman right now.
The stuff he's been doing, eversince he's been shooting with
Swerve all the way up to now,he's been doing.
He's been having solid matchesacross the board, you know.
So, yeah, who you going for Onyours?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Heyman, heyman too.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yep, okay, so I can hold for Heyman.
This is a pretty stacked card.
Like I said, we didn't eventouch on the.
I think it's three pre-showmatches as well, but yeah, this
should be a pretty solid weekend.
I'm sure they're gonna bleedover into the other one, though
I'm sure I think AEW starts atthree, I think, and and usually
that's a little- it's probablyfour, right like probably four
(24:56):
hours yeah, it's probably gonnabe about four hours and then and
then because I suppose theystart at seven they start at
seven so that's gonna be rightinto it it's gonna, yeah, the
couple, the last couple matchesare gonna probably be at the
same time Rastapulso starts,yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
So I mean I really wish they would stop, you know,
counter countering each otherlike that, or WWE especially,
and then like but like they wereall at the same show, right,
but like AEW moved theirs back,but it's still or no, they
didn't move it back, it's justthe time zone.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No, it's Toronto.
No, is it?
No, they're in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Oh, oh Well, they just moved it back, which that
helped, but it's still a littlebit, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, it's giving people an option.
I just don't understand whythey have to come on at the same
time.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
WWE's just trying to be the number one top people.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I mean, at one point in time you had WWE coming on
Sundays and then moved toSaturdays and then AEW started
coming on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I wish they would go back to that and AEW started
coming on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
But—.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And that way you can have Saturday for one and then
Sunday for the other.
If they're on the same week,you know.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, WWE, since TKO bought them right, Mm-hmm,
They've just been for money andthey're just trying to make the
most money.
I mean that's the business.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's what business do Business want to make the
most money.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, but like—.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But you're making those fans choose.
We shouldn't have to.
I mean, I can get WCW, wwe backin the day they were trying to
put each other out of businessand they were legit trying to
put each other out of business.
They both came on Monday nights, you know, I remember I mean
you weren't born yet, but Iremember switching back and
forth, trying to watch both ofthem and it was hard to do.
You might, you know you mighthave a match on here and forget
(26:43):
oh, shoot WCW's on, switch toWWW and then that match is over
with now Because you're lookingat WWE, or vice versa.
Wcw had a match on and youmissed a segment on WWE.
You don't know what happenedthere.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
You know so.
But AEW coming on Wednesdays,raw's coming on Mondays, man,
they're coming on Fridays, youdon't miss anything.
Yeah, fridays, you don't missanything.
So I don't understand why youdon't have their PLEs or
previews on different dates.
I mean, you got four weeks in amonth.
Four weeks in a month, I meanboth of them come on this week.
Then you got three weeks foryou to have anything on.
You know so.
(27:16):
I mean there's enough room forboth of them to be able to put
shows on without them kind ofproducing each other on the same
day.
You know, yeah, but but anyways, enough of that.
But yeah, I'm just lookingforward to both of them.
Hopefully we can watch the mostAEW and, uh, then get into
(27:36):
watching Reza Palooza, becauseit's going, both of them are
going to be big cars, the way itlooks Both of them are.
So, yeah, anything else youhave to look for yet?
Nope, all right.
So, with that being said, I'mBen, I'm Bash.
This has been an episode of TagTeam Talk.
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