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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to the Ben
and Bash podcast tag team talk.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash podcast tag team talk.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All right, here we
are for another one.
This time we are going to dopredictions for SummerSlam.
Who's going to win?
What do you think is going tohappen?
Any surprises?
You're going to hear about allof it.
Let's going to win.
What do you think is going tohappen?
Any surprises?
You're going to hear about allof it.
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, for the first
match on the card, it's Sami
Zayn versus Braun Breaker forthe Intercontinental
Championship and for this matchI think it's pretty simple.
But it has to have one thing inthe match for the answer to be
really simple.
Because on Money in the Bank,the lead up to Money in the Bank
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, they didn't really present theBrawn Breaker that we were
seeing on Monday Night Raw.
And Money in the Bank, the bank, uh.
So for summer slam, braunbreaker is probably gonna win if
they, if the month, if themonday night, braun breaker
comes to summer slam, because atmoney the bank, I don't think
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that was really the presentedbraun breaker.
So if we get the presentedbraun breaker, I feel like braun
breaker has to win and this islike his only chance.
I feel like there's no morechances after two chances at
least in wrestling matches.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I'm kind of
with you.
I mean the way Bron Breaker'sbeen since he's been on the main
roster.
I mean he's ran throughRicochet destroyed him.
He's put Ilya out for who knowshow long.
I mean he's been destroyinglyaout for who knows how long.
I mean he's been destroyingSami Zayn.
He's been running real shotacross the entire people he's
been wrestling against.
I mean Sami beat him last matchjust because he was Sami Zayn.
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But I just don't see how, if heloses again, he can't be the
guy he's been acting like he'sat.
He can't be that person.
If he's going to lose again,there's no way he's going to
beat him again the way BronBreaker's been going on a tear,
as they say.
I'm going to say Bron Breakerwins this Close match, but I
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don't think it's going to be asquash.
I think it's going to be a goodmatch.
I think Bron Ricker is going tofinally beat Sami Zayn for the
Intercontinental Championship.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, so the second
match on the card and my second
favorite match of the nightLogan Paul versus LA Knight for
the United States Championship.
Now, at first I really wantedto say Logan Paul for some
reason, Because it's in hishometown, but then I just like
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got it, because, really, the win.
It would be better if LoganPaul lost in his hometown, but
now I'm thinking it's going tobe LA night, since everybody's
cheering him.
I feel like the fans will startto riot if LA Knight didn't win
, because they were mad when helost to Roman Reigns, even
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though we all saw that coming.
But yeah, so I think LAKnight's going to come out on
top.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, once again I'm
agreeing with you.
I think LA Knight's going tocome out on top.
Yeah, once again I'm agreeingwith you.
I think LA Knight's going towin.
I mean, how many more chancesis he going to get To my brown
breaker?
La Knight's been having a chancefor almost a full year now and
he has yet to win a championship.
I mean, how many more chancesis he going to get to win If he
doesn't win this one?
Where does he go from here?
I mean, if he doesn't win thisone, where does he go from here?
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I mean, if he doesn't win thisunited states championship, he
definitely can't challenge for aheavyweight championship
because he can't even he can'twin a uh, what you call mid-car
belt.
I mean, how can he win aheavyweight championship but we
can't even win a united stateschampionship belt?
But also, I mean logan paul isback home.
I mean he grew up pretty muchin cleveland, right around cle
area, so he's back home.
But the fans didn't really cheerhim too much on SmackDown.
I mean they were born, so notsure it's going to be too much
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of a hometown cry out for LoganPaul like he thought it was
going to be.
They're cheering more for LAKnight.
I do think LA Knight is goingto win.
Like I said, he needs this winmore than Logan Paul needs this
win for sure.
I mean, like I said once, laKnight, if he loses this match,
where does he go?
There's nothing for him to goanywhere after this.
He's challenged for pretty muchevery championship and has lost
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every championship he's everwent for.
He has to win this one.
He has no choice.
I got LA Knight winning thisbecause he has to and he needs
this win.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Can I add one more
thing?
Yeah, go ahead.
La Knight, not LA Knight.
Logan Paul, he's not been on TV.
He's been Roman Reigns but hasno reason to not be on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
He's Logan Paul.
He can do what he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, but Roman
Reigns had a reason he has
leukemia.
He has to take a little breakfrom WWE now and then Logan Paul
just does, logan Paul.
Yeah, he thinks, because he'san actual megastar.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, he's one of the
few people who came into WWE
and people knew who he was.
Before WWE he was already likehate him or love him or like him
.
People knew who Logan Paul wasbefore he came to WWE.
Yeah, you know, I mean when youuse somebody like that, yeah,
they made their contract andthey may be a different, they
may have different rules thananybody else, because he does
have other obligations that hehas to attend to.
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So I'm not saying it's right,but it's Logan Paul.
I mean, look at how RondaRousey did when she came.
Or Brock Lesnar.
I mean those guys they didn'twrestle all the time on TV when
they had the belts.
People knew who they werebeforehand.
They were famous before BrockLesnar came and ended up being
an unknown, illiterate fan ofOlympic-style college wrestling.
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Then he came to the WWE and heleft, played football for a
little bit, then went to UFC,became a heavyweight champion at
UFC and then came back andpeople knew who he was.
Even if he didn't watch Rousey,he knew who Brock Lesnar was.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Or under Rousey.
He knew who under Rousey wasLogan Paul.
He knew who Logan Paul is.
People like that.
You know who they are beforethey come into the ring, you
know so, just like Mark Henry,mark Henry came.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
People knew who Mark
Henry was.
Yeah, you know, but I mean likehim or love him.
That's how his contract is.
The next match on the card isLiv Morgan versus Rhea Ripley
for the Women's WorldChampionship.
This match has been like one ofthe best feuds going on in
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professional wrestling.
In my opinion.
It's like it's really a storybetween Dominic Mysterio, rhea
Ripley and Leif Morgan.
But I feel like this is gonnago on for like maybe a three
matches saga instead of just one.
So if it's like like I'm sayingthree matches or what, however
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many there are, uh, I feel likelive morgan has to win the first
one, so, uh, so I'm going withLiv Morgan okay, I don't agree
with the.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I think Rhea Ripley
is going to win, but well, I
don't know, because we talkedabout Rhea Ripley, dom and Liv
Morgan it's also a fourth guythere.
People aren't really talkingabout Finn.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Balor, I mean about
Finn.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Balor.
I mean, what is Finn Balordoing?
Who is he going for?
Is he going to go with Morgan?
Is he going to go with Ripley?
I mean, do we actually knowwhere Finn Balor loyalty lies at
?
I mean, he did take the hotelcard when she put it on the
table.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, we saw that.
He said he threw it away.
He said he threw it away.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Allegedly, he said he
threw it away.
I mean, if you go back to whenLiv Morgan was in the Judgment
Days clubhouse, everybody's facehad something written on it,
except for Van Baller's youprobably know what that is.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh, Even JD McDonough
.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Everybody's only
picture had something written on
there, so it was the only facethat didn't have anything on it.
That's not.
It could have been acoincidence, but you never know
W.
You can't ever tell if it's acoincidence or not.
You never know.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I think about it Even
all the way back to when Finn
Balor wasn't even in theJudgment Day.
Exactly Finn, when Finn Balorwasn't even in the Judgment Day.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Exactly Finn Balor
and Liv Morgantine together in a
match, exactly With AJ Styles.
Now the problem with that is,if Finn Balor was to turn on
Rhea Ripley in this match, whathappens later on in the night
with Damian Priest?
Does he then turn on DamianPriest as well, or does Damian
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Priest's head gets out of theway because of what happened in
that match?
We'll talk about that later.
I really want to say RheaRipley's going to win this match
, but, barring what I think mayhappen with Finn Balor and
Dominic could be playing RheaRipley, all that stuff he was
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saying about he hate her and allthat that could be part of my
games.
Lil Morgan did say she wantedto take everything from Rhea
Ripley.
What better thing to take fromRhea Ripley than Dominic
Mysterio?
It wasn't Rhea Ripley thathelped Dominic Mysterio beat his
dad.
Liv Morgan did that.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Who helped Judges
from Day One tag team
championships.
It wasn't Rhea Ripley, it wasLiv Morgan.
She's done everything that RheaRipley hadn't done.
I mean, like I said, dominicactually do stuff to Ripley
Haven't done.
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Like I said, beat Rey Mysteriofor the first time Judging they
got tag team championships.
I mean, is there going to be atwist?
Is there going to be a?
I guess a quote unquote heelturn.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Or would it be a heel
turn if it's a double cross?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, like a double,
yeah like a double turn yeah
like a way to turn Ripleybabyface and Liv Morgan even
more.
Have a heel so yeah you know.
So I mean I'm gonna go LivMorgan.
Just because of what I justsaid, I'm gonna go Liv Morgan.
I think something's gonnahappen in that match and it's
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gonna cause Rip.
I'm going to go with Morgan.
Just because of what I justsaid.
I'm going to go with Morgan.
I think something's going tohappen in that match and it's
going to cost Rhea Ripley achampionship.
It's going to cost her to winthe championship and regain it.
Yeah, I got to live with Morgan.
Plus, then you have Bad Bloodcoming up here in October, which
I mean we know Bad Blood isalways a rivalry-type
pay-per-view.
I mean that we know Bad Bloodis always a rivalry type
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pay-per-view.
That was the first Hell in aCell match.
Shawn Michaels and Undertaker.
There's going to be a lot ofrivalry matches on that.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I think it's going to
be a women's Hell in a Cell or
Steel K or whichever one.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Because that's what I
think, Unless it's going to be
Drew McIntyre and CM Punk in theHell in a Cell yeah, that would
make more sense.
But women's Hell in a Cell?
I feel like they would do that,or I don't know.
I don't know what they're goingto do.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
That's what I'm
saying.
I don't know, but I think thatLiv Morgan's going to win.
Based on some town, fooleryTreachery is going on.
Not sure if it's going to be onDominic's side or Finn Balor,
but one of them, I think, isgoing to turn on Rhea Ripley and
or not really specifically turnbut like, interfere in the
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match, which causes Rhea Ripleyto lose the match, because they
can stretch that story out alittle bit longer too.
But yeah, I think Lil Morgan'sgoing to win.
It's not going to be a cleanpinfall, though.
It's going to be somethingthat's going to go on in that
match, that's going to cause herto win the match.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Okay.
So this is my favorite match onthe card CM Punk versus Drew
McIntyre, with Seth Freakin'Rollins as the special guest
referee, and I think DrewMcIntyre with Seth freaking
Rollins as the special guestreferee, and I think Drew
McIntyre is going to win.
Because I feel like SethRollins or like see, like like
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Drew McIntyre and Seth Rollinsare going to get mad at each
other, but Drew McIntyre is notgoing to like like hit him or
anything.
But I think CM Punk and SethRollins are going to get mad at
each other.
And then CM Punk is going toget mad at each other and the um
, cm punk's gonna attack sethrollins.
Then I see what's happening gtsone, two, seth rollins stumps
cm punk, or just not a pinfallstraight to the stump um, and I
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think um drew mcintntyre isgoing to hit the clamor and win.
That's what I think is going tohappen.
But overall, I feel like DrewMcIntyre has to win this match
because he's just taking L afterL to CM Punk.
Like people have shirts thatsaid Punk's three, mcintyre's
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zero.
So Drew McIntyre, I can't makeit four-zero.
He has to get one up on CM Punkthis one time.
So I'm going with Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I'm also going Drew
McIntyre for kind of the same
reason, but I think that DrewMcIntyre is going to win, seth
Rollins is going to interfere inthe match and that's going to
lead to Seth Rollins and CM Punkwrestling later on this year at
either Bad Blood or SurvivorSeries or some kind of match
later on, I think.
But yeah, cm Punk has beendestroying Drew McIntyre.
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I mean, he's called DrewMcIntyre every single
championship match since he'scame back.
I mean, granted, drew McIntyredid hurt CM Punk and then he
basically said I'll pray that hewould get hurt, which I mean
you don't want anybody to gethurt like that.
Drew McIntyre said I don't care, I wanted him to get hurt.
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And CM Punk did that personallyand made it his mission to make
sure that Drew McIntyre neverwins another championship as
long as he's in the NBA.
So the only way to do that isfor Drew to get his revenge back
and basically destroy CM Punkin this match.
Like Bash said, I think SethRollins is going to get involved
some kind of way, because asmuch as he hates Drew McIntyre,
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he hates CM Punk way more, justbecause of prior histories or
whatever the case may be.
I think Seth Rollins just doesnot like CM Punk whatsoever and
I think he's going to call CMPunk maybe not intentionally, or
maybe he doesn't count to threeor has a slow count, or
whatever the case may be butyeah, I think Drew McIntyre is
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going to win against CM Punk andfinally gets his revenge for CM
Punk, costing him all thesechampionships, basically all
year, for the entire year so far.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
And the next match on
the card is Bayley versus Nia
Jax for the WWE Women'sChampionship.
I feel like this feud has beenlackluster, in my opinion,
because Damian Priest andGunther yeah, there's a reason
for that match it's King of theRing, because Gunther won the
King of the Ring, but at leastthat has storyline.
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This really doesn't have thatmuch storyline.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Well it does, because
remember a couple years ago
Bayley missed SummerSlam becauseNia Jax hurt her.
This is like a long-termstoryline Nia Jax won King of
the Ring, but her and Bayley dohave a history where Nia Jax
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actually legitimately hurtBayley in the match.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And Bayley was not
able to wrestle for a few months
after that, including missingSummerSlam.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Oh, legitimately.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
She was actually hurt
for a while, oh I thought that
was just a part of the script.
No, no, it was actually Bayleygetting hurt in that match for
real and actually ended upmissing SummerSlam because of
injury, so staying in the matchagainst Nia Jax so pause for a
second.
Don't use the word script.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Don't use the word
script what like the well like
the little Johnnies of the worldare gonna get mad at me.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yes, if you watch
kids, that watch it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yes, so go ahead,
start back oh on, no, no pause
for a second and start back onBailey and IJX, yeah, and the
whole thing no, just for youwere trying to say when I said
pause oh, um.
So overall I think, uh, tiffanyStratton is going to like fake
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cash in, and then that's goingto get Nia Jax's attention and
Bayley's going to take advantageof that for the 1-2-3 also
think Bayley's going to win.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You need to stop
agreeing with so much, but I
think Bayley's going to win aswell.
If Tiffany Stratton fake cashesin, does she actually cash in?
Does she make this a triplethreat match?
Does she cash in after thematch is over with and get the
belt?
Does she wait until later on inthe year or next year to cash
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in?
I mean, I don't know, but I gotBayley winning.
Like I said, the actual yeah,this actual build up to this
match, if you don't think longterm it has been lackluster.
It hasn't been as much going onas the rest of the matches on
this card.
The other matches on the cardhave more of a storyline, have
more of a reason why they'refighting.
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I mean, yeah, nia Jax did hurtBayley, like I said before, but
as far as recently, there's notmuch besides the Tiffany
Stratton aspect.
I mean, is she going to be outthere with Nia Jax?
Is she going to be behind thescenes?
I mean, if she's out there withNia Jax, it's easier for her to
cash in because she'd bealready out there, as opposed to
her running down the ring likeother people do when they cash
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in.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
But I do have Bailey
winning, finally beating Nijax
and hopefully not gettingcrushed in the process with the
night within the move, theannihilator.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, hopefully that
doesn't happen to her, because
that can put you out for a down.
That can put you out for a longhaul.
But yeah, I got Bayley winningonce again returning her belt.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You said we need to
stop agreeing.
I don't think in this one we'regoing to agree, because at
first I was really pushingtowards Gunther.
But I think Damian Priest isgoing to win Because that would
cement him as a champion.
Because, like, think about it,I don't think, I don't really
agree with this, but, like fanshave been saying that Damian
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Priest isn't like, doesn't like,isn't like a top champion, so
this will cement him as achampion, beating one of the
like one of professionalwrestling's best wrestlers in
Gunther.
So I think Damien Price isgoing to win.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Alright, before I get
into that match, we do have
Badge and Berlin coming up.
So, gunther, he's going to gointo as champion or challenger.
He's going to have a match't ishe going to go into as champion
or challenger?
He's going to have a match forthe world heavyweight
championship.
We all know that he's going tobe in the world heavyweight
championship match.
Is it going to be as champion,after he beat Damian Priest, or
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is it going to be as achallenger to Damian Priest, or
is it going to be wrestlingsomebody else?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Maybe Kuhn Ilya
Dragunov could be.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean, if you get
Ilya Dragunov where he could
come back and wrestle againstKaiser.
But this I mean I like Guntheras a wrestler, but he's been
rubbing me the wrong way, howhe's been talking about Damien
Priest, calling him street trashand just because he had a hard
life growing up.
A lot of people have hard livesgrowing up, you know.
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I mean don't mean the man'sless thin than you are, you know
, just because Gunther said hehad everything he ever wanted
and Damien Priest didn't.
I mean, that's just how lifeworks sometimes people, but
they're both, no matter how theygrew up.
Damien Priest is champion rightnow, gunther's not.
So Damian Priest is championright now.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Gunther's not.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
So it doesn't matter
how good Gunther had it growing
up.
He has to beat Damian Priest toget the belt.
At the end of the day, you cancall Damian Priest street trash
all you want to, but welcome tothe match.
Damian Priest is the worldchampion, gunther's not.
So Damian Priest wins, which,barring any outside interference
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.
I'm going to go just because Idon't want to agree with you on
every single one of these.
I'm going to say Gunther, I'mgoing to pick Gunther, just
because I think that I'm goingto go out here and say Finn
Bauer interference in this matchif he doesn't do it.
In the Liv Morgan, maybe LivMorgan, maybe Liv Morgan.
Rhea Ripley, dominic Mysteriointerferes and calls Rhea Ripley
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, not intentionally butaccidentally.
And in the heavyweightchampionship, finn Bauer finally
turns on Damian Priest BecauseDamian Priest has been kind of
not needing the judgment day.
I mean, he's been treating themguys like they're under him,
like they're less than him, allkind of stuff.
And if you listen to it, theydid say that Rhea Ripley and
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Damian Priest will be out thereby herself.
So if anybody does come outthere, it's not part of what
Damian Priest and Ripley askedfor.
So yeah, I got going throughwinning that one, finn Balor
interfering costing a DamianPriest championship, which then,
well, there we go, which thenmay lead to Damian Priest and
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Finn Balor wrestling at.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Bad Blood.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
And that leaves
Gunther to wrestle against Ilya
or somebody else at Badge inBerlin.
Yeah, so there we go.
Berlin, yeah, you know.
So there we go.
That's hot.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
There we go.
Rice itself.
Okay For the next match.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Cody Rose the main
event.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
That is the answer.
Cody Rose.
Who's Cody Rose wrestling SellaSacoa?
It doesn't matter, cody Rose,that's it Nothing else Nope.
Nothing else.
Bloodline Rose, cody Rosewinning, roman Reigns coming
back, jim Mews coming back,that's it.
That's all you need for thismatch.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Cody Rose in a
Bloodline Rose match with nobody
that we know of on this side tohelp him out.
I mean, realistically, as ofright now, we don't know if
Roman Reigns is coming back.
We don't know if Jey Uso iscoming back.
We don't know if Jey Uso isgoing to come.
Jey Uso is coming back.
We don't know that for a fact.
I mean, we all hope so, butlet's say he don't come back.
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Cody Rhodes how is Cody?
I know that.
But let's say, for the sake ofargument, that Roman Reigns does
not come back at this, whichmost people if you follow
wrestling, pretty much everybodyin the world is predicting.
Roman Reigns comes back becausethey have been saying the
Tribal Chief way too many timesover the last few weeks.
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If nobody does come back,there's no way Cody Rhodes can
beat the entire bloodline.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Randy Orton.
Randy Orton, good, he's hurt.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
You've not seen him
get thrown to the table.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Kevin Owens Kevin.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Owens has got his
neck chopped off almost.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You don't know who
Kevin Owens is.
If you think that's going tokeep him.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's going to keep
him out.
What I'm saying is Cody Rhodescouldn't even beat Jacob Fatu by
himself in the match.
I don't think he could beatJacob Fatu.
So Cody Rhodes, versus all themembers of the bloodline, has no
chance unless somebody comes tohelp him.
Unless we get it, the only wayCody Rose wins this match is if
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Roman Reigns comes back.
That's the only way.
If he has some kind of helplike that, because Kevin Owens
is out with that neck injurythat when they threw him through
the onto the steel rose, thesteel post with the chair around
his neck.
You know Randy Orton has ahistory of back problems.
He got power-bombed through thetable which he can miss his
back every morning.
He was already out for almostover a year with a back injury
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Before.
That's why he just came back,because he had a back injury.
That's why he was out for solong beforehand.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
If you're going to
talk people to help Cody Rose,
it doesn't make that much sensefor so long beforehand.
I mean, if you're going to talkpeople to help Cody Rose, it
makes it doesn't make that muchsense.
But DIY, diy could possibly.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
They could, because
they did lose just now.
But that wouldn't be that muchhelp, I mean it could be enough
help or, like I said, the onlyway Roman Reigns could come back
, because there's that oldsaying of the enemy of the enemy
is my friend Right.
So Cody and Roman Reigns hateeach other.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But that's his friend
, because both of them don't
like Solo, even though RomanReigns himself has said before
that Solo was the next tribalchief.
Yeah, he said that On TV.
He said this is the next tribalchief of the bloodline, but I
don't think he meant right now.
Yeah, I think he meant when hegot ready to hang him up and
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retire and do like the rock dayto retire, then the next one to
come through that would be Solo,but to be honest, jacob Fatu
may be the next one.
I mean, I just don't see howSolo can compete with Jacob 5-2
when Jacob 5-2 turns on him.
If he does, if they do aSolo-5-2 match, like they did
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Roman Reigns and Jey Uso and howthey made Jey Uso a star, they
can do the same thing with Jacob5-2.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I mean, but I don't
really know if that type of
character can be a good guyrealistically.
How is somebody who needs to belocked up supposed to be a good
guy?
Well, he don't have to be agood guy.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
He doesn't have to be
a good guy.
Brock Lesnar was never a goodguy, but people loved him.
Well, not loved him, but peopleliked seeing him come out.
Brock Lesnar was not a good guyat all, but what did people do?
They?
They cheer for him when he cameout.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Especially in a feud
against Roman Reigns, exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I mean just yeah.
But when you have a guy likeJacob Fatu, yes, he's a
dangerous guy legitimately, youknow.
I mean his past history, don'twant to talk about it, but we
know he has done some stuff inhis life, you know.
But he's a good wrestler andwe'll see how that goes If they
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let him wrestle.
If he wrestles the way hewrestled in MLW and all the
other independent promotions hewas in, he is going to be hard
to beat.
Even Cody Rose is going to behard to beat him, you know.
I mean then you have Tama Tongaand Tonga Lola were the Grills'
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destiny in New Japan and otherindependent wrestling, tna, and
all that.
Once they get together theycould be the best tag team in
the world, you know.
So that's three guys rightthere who you can win the
championships.
And then you got Solo, still, Imean.
And then you also have SurvivorSeries coming up, bad Blood
coming up.
If Roman Reigns does come backand if Jey and Jimmy does
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reunite and become the Usosagain, I mean, I mean Jey didn't
even have a match at SummerSlam.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
He didn't have a
match.
One more thing, so you thinkthey're not.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
you think they're not
going to bring out Jey Uso in
some capacity at SummerSlam?
I mean, he's one of the biggestcrowd reactions to this day.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
He might open up the
show.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
He may.
But what I'm saying is he stillgets the biggest crowd reaction
of the day when he comes outand does the whole Yeet stuff
right.
You think he's not going tocome out in some capacity?
I mean, this may be a time forhim and Jimmy to reconcile.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I think they're going
to do that next SmackDown, or
just like a couple of SmackDownsfrom now.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
With Jimmy and Jey.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It's how Sammy and
Kevin did on that one, where
they reunited and hugged.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And they got like a
busload of cheers.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
True, but yeah, so I
got.
I really want Solo to win, andthen Roman Reigns' music hits
and they wrestle at Bad Blood.
That's what I really want.
I really do.
You know, what Does RomanReigns?
(28:42):
Here's a question for you,though.
Here's a question for you,though.
Does Roman?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Reigns like Cody
Rhodes enough to help him out in
a match against Solo who's hisfamily, I mean.
But he said it Even back inWrestleMania 39, he says he has
respect for Cody Rhodes.
I understand that he justdoesn't want him to win his
championship.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
But he did win it.
That's what I'm that he justdoesn't want him to win his
championship, but he did win it.
That's what I'm saying.
So do you think that RomanReigns would come out and help
Cody Rhodes, or do you thinkRoman Reigns would come out?
after Solo won, I feel like whatRoman Reigns does come, let's
just say Roman Reigns is comingback.
Let's just say he's coming back.
Right, is he going to come backout to help Cody Rhodes defeat
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his family?
Or is he going to come outafter his family has won and
beat the guy who beat him andthen come out and get the Tribal
Chief status back Because badblood is coming up?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Wait, hold on.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I mean bad blood's
coming up, so that has to be a
perfect opportunity for Solo andRoman Reigns to wrestle each
other bad.
I mean.
You can't get any better thanthat.
The Bloodline in a in bad bloodlike that's the perfect match
for them.
Yeah, I mean Bloodline membersin a bad blood pay-per-view
(30:02):
match yeah, bad blood.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Bad blood in the
bloodline exactly that's.
That's that works perfectlywith them they might as well
just call it the Bloodlinepay-per-view that's what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
They might as well.
That's what I'm looking at.
Solo is going to wrestle,probably Roman Reigns, but is
Roman Reigns going to come backout to help Cody Rhodes?
Or is he going to come outafter Solo wins the championship
and then Roman Reigns comesback to get his rightful throne,
to come back and get hisrightful place as the head of
the table?
Tribal chief.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But here's my
question really for you, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Who are you picking?
Like I said, I like Cody Rhodes, but for the sake of Roman
Reigns.
This works better if Solo wins,because if Cody Rhodes wins,
then Roman Reigns and Solo justturn into a regular match, the
Tribal.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Chief the Tribal.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Chief on the line,
yes, but remember when Roman
Reigns fought Jey Uso for theTribal Chief status, that was
the best on the line as well.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, that did make
the match a little better.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So that match could
go better if you have a Tribal
Chief status on the line and abelt on the line, because to be
Tribal Chief is to be a champion.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, and one thing
on the Tribal Chief thing if
Solo's supposed to be the TribalChief and Roman Reigns comes
back, he's not going toautomatically become the tribal
chief.
What is he going to be?
The big dog again.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
He's still the tribal
chief.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
But, Solo doesn't
think that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's the point.
So when you have real tribalchiefs and real Samoans and
Native Americans and people likethat, in order to become the
chief of the tribe you have tobeat the current chief.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
If the current chief
doesn't give you his title, you
have to take it from him.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So in order to do
that, solo didn't take anything.
He made himself that you stillgot the tribal chiefs out there.
Roman Reigns never told you youwere going to be a tribal.
He said you're going to be thenext one.
Didn't say you're going to bethe one right now.
He said you're going to be thenext one, basically, when he
retires.
So he never gave someone thetribal chief status.
So as a Roman, so because RomanReigns never gave him the
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tribal chief status, romanReigns needs to come back and
tell him who the real tribalchief is.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
He gave him future
tribal chief stuff, Exactly
future.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
The same way, roman
Reigns was the tribal chief
after the Rock.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
The Rock was tribal
chief for the longest and then
Roman Reigns was the same tribalchief.
You know the Rock never calledhimself tribal chief on TV.
But family-wise, the Samoans hewas, he was the breadwinner, he
was the number one guy in thatfamily.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Back then.
I don't even know if theyacknowledged in professional
wrestling no, not inprofessional wrestling, but in
the family he did.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, I'm saying the
breadwinner, the head of the
table, the breadwinner, thefamily, the person who provides
for the family, is the head ofthe table, the tribal chief, as
they say, yeah, the tribal chief, as they say, yeah, that was
the rock for the longest.
Then rikishi could have came ina little bit and helped out.
And then it was roman reigns.
Right now, solo is trying tosay he is where roman reigns is
(33:06):
out there.
Until roman reigns retires,solo cannot be the tribal chief.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, so just because
you wear fancy suits doesn't
mean you're the tribal chiefexactly.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So I think for this
to work the way I want it to
work, I'm going to pick Solo, asmuch as I want Cody Rhodes to
win.
It works better with Solowinning and then Roman Reigns
coming back after the match.
I don't think.
Because Cody Rhodes doesn'thave, he took why did he take a
Bloodlines Rules match when hedoesn't know if he has any
friends or not to help him out?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
How do you know that
he could have made a call?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
He could have.
But what I'm saying is, as faras we know, all his friends that
helped him out have all beenhurt.
So why would you want to helpCody Rhodes out, knowing what
happened to Randy Orton andKevin Owens for helping Cody
Rhodes out?
You know what happened to them.
They got destroyed.
So if I'm anybody else, whywould I want to help out Cody
Rose, if I know it's going tohappen to me later on?
I'm going to get beat up andCody Rose is going to be sitting
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there tied up and can't doanything about it.
So it's going to be hard forsomebody to help Cody Rose out.
So I think that, like I said,Soul's going to win, because the
bloodline rules means there areno rules, Just like at
WrestleMania there are no rules.
But this time around CodyRhodes doesn't have as much help
.
That we know of Not saying hewon't with Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso,
whoever, but as far as we knowright now he doesn't have any
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help and so it's going to winthe belt.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I think I know of
something that could happen, but
it still goes along with likewould Like.
Paul Heyman comes up like, sayit, say it, say it.
My name is Paul and it gets thebloodlines the attention.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
True, I think that's
gonna happen After the match is
over, when someone what I thinkis gonna happen Solo wins.
You know, obviously thebloodline helps him.
Yeah, solo wins and he'scelebrating In the middle of the
ring.
And then Holding his threebelts Holding his three belts,
and then, all of a sudden, paulHeyman walks out yeah and Paul
(35:00):
Heyman looks at him kind of likePaul Bearer did back in the day
when Kane came back.
When Paul Bearer came out,looked up and then Kane music
blasted, the pyro hit and theneverybody went crazy.
Same thing happened.
Paul Heyman walks out after thematch is over with he walks out
, people cheering for him andall of a sudden he turns around
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and the Tribal Chief music hits.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Now did Jimmy come
out with his own entrance?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
No, jimmy comes out
with Roman Reigns.
They come out as the OGbloodline.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Him, and then Jey Uso
uses his.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Like yeah, yeah, see
how that sounds, see how good
that sounds.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You got Roman Reigns
comes out with Jimmy Uso and
then you think that's it, andthey stop, turn around and Jey
Uso uses his.
So now you got a three on four.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Well, four on four,
no, no, I three on four, four on
four.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's after the match.
Then you have the bloodlinethem coming out.
Who knows?
You know some more Samoans.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Or Samians.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Know some more
Samoans.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
If they're trying to
do the OG, bloodline the missing
cue.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You have to have
Samians, but at the same time
Tomatonganga's brother justsigned to WWE.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Why would Tamatanga's
brother go against Tamatanga?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
The same way Solo
Sokoa went against his brothers.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well, that's,
wouldn't he join Solo Sokoa then
?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
No, he's the younger
brother, just like Solo Sokoa is
Tamatanga and Tama Lora are theolder brothers and this guy is
the younger brother, but he'slike seven feet tall, dang yeah.
So he comes out.
Now you got three, now you gotfour on four, if he does, I'm
not saying he does come out, butI'm just saying he's there or
he in the Usos.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Wait, he's seven foot
tall.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, right around.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
How, how.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Just about what it is
, but anyways.
So yeah, that's how, that'swhat I think.
I think Toad's going to win.
Roman Reigns comes back.
Trouble Chief status, bloodlinematch Bad blood At the
bloodline OG versus Bloodline2.0.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Got it.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Get it Good.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Here we go, but I
still think Cody Rose is going
to win.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
We'll see.
We'll see who wins.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
We'll see right about
that.
I was about to say Solo Sokoa,but then I thought you were
going to say Cody Rose.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
No, no, all right,
anything else?
Speaker 1 (37:34):
No, I think that's it
.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
All right, that's it
Alright.
Rest of the episode.
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I'm Bash.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And this has been the
episode of Tag Team.
Talk.