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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to the Ben
and Bess Podcast Tag Team Talk.
I'm Ben, I'm Bess.
I'm going to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bess Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Alright, here we are
for another one.
This time we are going to doNight 2 for WrestleMania 41.
Let's get to it.
41.
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, for the first
match on the card, it's Io Sky
vs Bianca Belair, vs Rhea Ripleyfor the Women's World
Championship, and recently onRaw and just in general, they've
been disregarding Io SkyBecause at the um, what was it
called?
Wrestlemania?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
kickoff.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Rhea Ripley mentioned
.
Rhea Ripley mentioned reallysaid that she always envisioned
herself against, against Bianca,but then when you add EO in
there, but what they said, theykeep adding like, add EO or
stuff like that, like she's thechampion and like they're
basically like like not evenlike like saying her as a threat
(01:04):
.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Basically, I mean, it
was supposed to be in bianca
and rio because bianca won themission chamber, yeah, but then
he'll had a rematch.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So I mean, rio
dropped the ball and lost the
bill but I think that theunderdog story, I think um e Io
Skye overcomes the odds andretains her championship.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Is it Yep?
Nothing else.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Nope, wait, wait a
minute, wait a minute, wait a
minute.
I'm going to change myprediction.
I'm saying Bianca Belair winsand I'm going for bonus points.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Naomi helps her win,
you changed your mind to Bianca
yeah why didn't you say EO?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
cause you took my
pick oh, you were going to say
Bianca.
Were you going to say the Naomithing too?
Yep, you could say go say it,say it.
I was going to say Bianca,though but that's it.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Are you officially
switching to Bianca?
Yep okay, so I guess we're onthe same page with that one.
I'm going to go with Bianca aswell.
I mean, she's been gettingbooed even though she she's done
nothing wrong.
She's been right abouteverything.
I mean, she did nothing wrong.
She didn't win the WarriorRumble.
She didn't win it.
She went to the Nation Chamber.
(02:31):
Instead.
You win in the Nation Chamber,they tell you you're going to
get a WrestleMania opportunity.
Okay, she did that Against thechampion.
Who's the champion going to beby now?
Monday?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Night.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Raw Cool.
Rhea wrestled Io Scott Againstthe champion.
Who was champion gonna be anhour Monday Night.
Raw cool, real Russell yo Scott.
River River Ripley is host tohell business she did.
She lost the yo Scott.
Okay, yo Scott's most rest ofthe uncle bill there playing a
simple in discussion.
(03:04):
Why is river play?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
the match.
I might get it, but why isleyin the match?
I mean I get it, but why is shein the match?
Because she weaseled her way in.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But I'm just saying,
that's what I'm saying Like she
shouldn't be in the match.
She lost her belt.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I mean, yeah, she
gets a rematch, but why did she
have to get a rematch atWrestleMania?
She's had two months to get arematch and she waits till now
and she waits till now she couldhave been at a rematch, you
know, and she waits till now and, like Bianca said, you're you
know she's taking my shot awayfrom me.
I did what I was supposed to doand we really just sign the
contract, put her name on thecontract and get the title shot
(03:33):
pretty much, and that and thatand that messes up Bianca's odds
too.
Exactly, Scott Starner says 33.
And third chance to win yeah.
Goes from 50% to 33 and third ofwinning now.
So I mean, I don't know.
I mean I'm going to go Bianca.
I was going to go Biancaanyways, no matter who.
(03:55):
She wrestled at WrestleMania,just got things in her ear again
.
I mean, she's undefeated atWrestleMania.
She hadn't beat Rhea Ripleybefore.
She has a losing record againstthe EO, as they said.
So this is, and it keeps herstrict alive for the rest of
mania.
You know now, will Naomi helpher out, you know, or will she
(04:20):
feud with somebody else later on?
I mean, yes, I'll match thatbacklash next month.
So I'm going gonna go withBianca now.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But, um, for the
second match on the card is from
breaker versus Penta, versusFinn Balor versus Dominic
Mysterio for the WWEIntercontinental Championship,
and this one it's prettydifficult because all of these
are very like people, likepeople who could carry the
intercontinental championshipvery well.
(04:50):
Um, um.
I've seen a lot of peoplepredicting uh, dominic mysterio,
which I'm kind of surprisedbecause I didn't think that many
people want dominic mysteriowith as the.
But yeah, I think they're justgoing to tease Dominic Mysterio
winning but Penta picks up thevictory, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So you're going with
Penta.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I'm going to disagree
and I'm going to be one of
those people I'm going to gowith.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm going to go, I'm
going to be one of those people
I'm going to go with DominicMysterio with it.
But who does he pin?
I don't know.
Finn Balor maybe.
Yeah, most people are sayingFinn Balor.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Finn Balor.
They say Mm-hmm, that's whatthey're saying.
But no, I'm going to go withDominic Mysterio winning off a
simple fact of he's been doingliterally the best heel work in
recent memory.
I mean, he's been getting andhe's and he turned to his dad
two, three years ago.
How long ago was that?
Yeah, when, edge, I mean when.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Edge was in the.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
AEW.
I mean, how long ago was that?
I mean that was at least acouple years ago, three years
ago at least it was therebecause the climax to it was
WrestleMania 39 so this is 41.
So 39, this is 41, so thinkabout how long ago it was yeah
so here we are now and he'sstill getting booed the same way
(06:17):
.
he was back then, yeah, andhadn't died down yet.
So if you know that's good heelwork, Now he gets rewarded for
the heel work.
I mean, what better way?
I mean you know what better way?
And then that leads to himbecoming the leader of Judgment
Day Because he beats Finn Balor,you know.
(06:44):
Because, Finn Balor's in thematch too, yeah so if he beats
Finn Balor and pans Finn Balor.
Now what happens?
You know so.
But yeah, I got Dominic Mathieuwinning that match.
It should be.
I mean, ron Breaker is therookie out of all of them.
Technically he is.
(07:05):
Yeah, technically.
I mean, dominic Zierer has beenwrestling for a while.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I guess I mean he's
been wrestling, I mean before he
came to the beat, he waswrestling all around.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I mean he was
training.
I mean so, yeah, he's beenwrestling for a long time, but
Raymond Zierer trained him,right, had him trained all
around the world yeah so beforehe came to WWE, so you know.
So I would think Brian Breakerwould be the, because Brian
Breaker played football.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So he played football
first and then came to WWE
Dominic Ciro.
All he done is wrestle.
That's all he's been doing.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I mean he was
wrestling.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
He was a kid.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah wrestling.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
He was a kid, yeah,
and the whole eddie girl ring
stereo custody over dominicladder match.
So he's been in wb his wholelife, pretty much.
So he's been wrestling evenlonger so but, yeah, I'm gonna
go with donald stereo.
Uh, winning, winningchampionship.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Um for the third
match on the card.
It it's AJ Styles versus LoganPaul, and this match I feel like
it's go either way.
You know, if you noticed, onRaw, karrion Kross had his hands
behind his back when AJ Stylesdid the Styles Clash.
I didn't notice that.
(08:24):
Yeah Well, I didn't notice iteither until until until people
pointed it.
I tell people pointed it out,but yeah, but yeah, um, yeah,
but I think, um, hmm, I think Ithink AJ Styles is going to win
(08:51):
this match.
But I have a side predictionand I get bonus points for this.
If I'm right, I'm predictingthat Mr Beast is going to be in
the prime box you think theprime box is gonna be in the
crime box yep, it has to.
He's done it.
Every single Russell, many,except of his first one.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't even think
prom was out back hmm, it's not
gonna be the prom ball againyeah mr beast this time, mm-hmm.
Mr Beast, part of prom.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So why would he be in
the prom Speed?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
wasn't either, though
.
Yeah, but I guess I was.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, but at least Mr
Beast has a company with Logan
Paul.
Feastables, not Feastables.
Lunch Week, it's a Lunchablesnot?
Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So it still makes
sense yeah, maybe if he wants to
do it, but he's gonna.
Whatever happens, though, he'sgonna get it.
He's gonna take a spot.
Yeah, because he wants to takea spot.
He played football before howlong goes that?
I and I saw Speed.
They actually took spot.
So I mean, here's I who took aspot, and I know Speed did one
(10:08):
in WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
In the room.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
In the room.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And he got nasty gas
on his leg for that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Exactly.
So he actually took spot, butyeah.
I don't know, maybe somebodycan buy us a Prada bottle.
We'll see.
But you done with that, did you?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
pick.
I picked AJ Styles.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
This should be a good
match.
I mean, aj Styles is gettingthere in age but he still puts
on good matches regardless, youknow, I mean he's still, like I
said, you know, up there in age,wrestling with 20 plus years
now, but he can still hang withthe best of them as far as
wrestling goes um logan paul notthe biggest fan, logan paul,
(10:52):
but not many people but you givesomebody respect with respect
is due and so far in wrestlinghe has been good.
I mean just point blank, he hasbeen good as a wrestler.
You know.
So you know, respect is due,respect is due regardless, and
(11:18):
Logan Paul has been good.
I mean, it seems like he'sserious about it.
At first I wasn't sure if hewas gonna take it serious and
and just you know, justsomething, something else to do
you know, but it's not like Ishould take this serious.
It seems like he's actuallylearned how to do it.
He's getting better on.
His promos took out going frommost, though wrestling ability.
I mean he's athletic already,and it's like a wrestling
(11:40):
ability gets better time againstthe ring.
I would like to see him wrestlemore, though, because he's kind
of doing the Roman Reignswithout earning that pocket.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, the only thing
he's really done is won the
United States Championship.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I'm saying it's
like he's doing the Roman
Reigns and Brock, but he hadn'tearned the right to do that yet.
Yeah, like he should be on TV,if not every week, every other
week, you know, to earn theirrespect.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I mean he may be
backstage every time.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't know, I'm not
sure he may be backstage every
time.
I'm not going to say I'm notgoing to say he's not there
every week, but he should be onTV every other week.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh no, I guarantee
he's not on there every week.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, every week.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayingbecause, like he has other stuff
to do, he hasn't got realityshows, he doesn't want his other
stuff, but reality shows onfilm radios every day, though
you feel those for a shortperiod of time and then they're
done until the next season yeah,until you just have to go again
.
But even then you care moreabout wrestling or you want to
come reality show because theydid total divas yeah they filmed
that.
Why people still wrestling?
yeah, so I mean renee youngstill did her backstage
(12:48):
interviews.
Dean ambrose, when he was there, was still in the shield stuff,
the old world champion yeahwhen he was on total divas.
Uh, bellas john cena was onthere and he was still doing
john cena stuff and bella twinswas still doing bella stuff,
danielins was still doing Bellastuff, daniel Bryan was still
doing Daniel Bryan stuff.
So there's nothing to excuse mefor that.
I mean you can still do realityshows and still do that, you
(13:11):
know.
Yeah, I mean you knowtechnically, but did you pick
who you're going to?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
win.
Aj, styles AJ.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Styles AJ Styles.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I want AJ.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Styles to win, but I
feel like Logan Paul's going to
pull it out Some kind of way.
I feel like Logan Paul's goingto pull it off some kind of way.
So, yeah, I'm going to go withLogan Paul in probably one of
(13:47):
the better matches of the night.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But yeah, I'm gonna
go with Logan Paul in that one.
Mm-hmm.
But uh, for the fourth match onthe card, it's Damian Priest
versus Drew McIntyre in a SinCity Street Fight, and this one
I it's bound to be a good match.
I don't know if they go all theway backstage, but I know it's
going to be a really good fight.
(14:11):
I like the name, because theyalways do catchy names for
certain places.
But yeah, I think Drew McIntyreneeds this win more, Because
he's been on a little bit of aslump recently.
You think so?
Yeah, and I think this matchwill not boost him as much, but
(14:34):
I think he just needs this win alot more.
But yeah, like I was saying, heneeds this win a lot more.
So I think he pulls it out withsome crazy spot and then he
wins.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So you're picking
Drew McIntyre Fishler Yep, drew
McIntyre Mm-hmm.
I don't know if I want to winthis match.
I mean, this feud has beengoing on for a year now I mean
technically- Since lastWrestleMania yeah.
When Damian Priest cashed inMm-hmm, so do I want Damian
(15:11):
Priest or Drew McIntyre to win,but actually you got to think
about it it was before that,because they were like attacking
each other, like doing likebras and stuff, when Damian
Priest still had the briefcase.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Remember.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That's right, because
um he didn't want Damian Priest
cashing in.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah he didn't want.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Damian Priest cashing
in on the weight before the
belt before the WrestleManiamatch.
It was against that for us too,wasn't it yeah?
Yeah, that's all but um, I amgoing to go with, I'm going to
(15:54):
go Damien Priest.
I'm going to go Damien Priest,just just.
Yeah, I'm going to go DamienPriest.
Um yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I'm going to go.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Damien Priest for
this one Reason.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Huh Reason.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It's a straight fight
and just the way Damien Priest,
the way Damien Priest, the wayDamien Priest has been, I mean
the way he's been recently, withthe whole fight going through
and all that in the street.
Yeah, just that whole persona,yeah.
And so if he goes back likehe's been on Honor Days, the
Punishment, martinez Days, thenI got Damien Priest winning.
(16:31):
You know, if he switches tothat, to that, that level, and
puts that switch on, then it'sgoing to be a long night for
Drew McIntyre.
It's not going to be a prettymatch.
It's not going to be a match ofthe night.
This is going to be a beatdown.
This is going to be a fight.
You know, I don't think it'sgoing to be a match of the night
.
This is going to be a fight.
It's going to go with DamianPriest on this one.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's it.
That's it For the next match onthe card.
It's Liv Morgan and RaquelRodriguez versus Lyra Valkyria
and a mystery tag team partner,because for some reason Bayley
just got scruffed from the match.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Alright, before we
start on this, let me go on a
little rant real quick on this.
We talked yesterday about SethRollins right, about Seth
Rollins winning the match andbeing what's right for pro
wrestling, correct and how he'salways wrestling.
(17:34):
He's always there regardless ofwhat.
He's always there no matterwhat.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Is that not the same?
Can I say the same thing forBayley?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, you can say the
same exact thing.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
If not more.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, she's there
like almost guaranteed every
week, unless she's hurt.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
She's wrestled in
every single brand that we had
this year, including NXT Justthis year.
This year, yes, she was in NXTtoo this year.
So NXT, raw, smackdown, ple,everything.
And you don't give her aWrestleMania match.
(18:13):
Yeah, that's weird.
I mean, okay, we'll get intowho we think, who we think is
going to debut I think we gotthe same person but you don't
give her a WrestleMania match.
If this was the plan from thebeginning, give her a match
against Roxanne then why didmatches get scrubbed?
(18:34):
I mean, if you know this is theplan, you could have put anybody
in there with Lyra.
If they're not going to be inthe match anyway, anybody could
have been in that position withLyra, if they're just not going
to be in that match anyway.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Somebody who?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
doesn't need to be in
WrestleMania anyway.
Anybody in that position couldbe Lyra's tag team partner.
If all you're going to do istake them out anyway To replace
them with the mystery opponent.
Bayley deserves better than that.
She's been a workhorse for WWEsince she came to WWE.
I know she's a team player.
(19:09):
I know she's probably upsetabout it, but at the end of the
day she's a team player.
She does it the best ofbusiness.
Well, just like that problem.
But just like talk about SethRollins, just like doing what's
best for business, he was thebest winner for that match.
I guess being punk and romerangBailey is just like that for
the women's division.
She's the women's workhorse.
(19:30):
She needs more respect for that.
But to not give her awrestlemania match, it's
ridiculous.
Yeah, but go ahead uh.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So before I predict
the match, we all oh, I don't
know if we all know, but like um, who I think is gonna replace
bailey?
Um, I hope we have the sameperson, and then I just look
weak, um.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I don't do all three
one.
Becky Lynch.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
No, there you go, I'm
glad yeah, so I think Becky
Lynch is gonna replace Baileyright here, and I think Lyra and
Becky pick up the win againstLiv Morgan and Raquel Rodgers.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I mean, obviously,
they're both from the same place
, they both trained in the sameplace.
They both were trained by FinnBalor.
It's obvious what this is goingto be.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, we know what
this is going to be.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
She was backstage
when Seth won yesterday.
She was yeah, she was backstage, they posted it.
She was backstage the day whenthey won.
She was backstage, Of course.
She was at Hall of Fame withSeth.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Rollins yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So okay, she's coming
back.
Cool, nothing against it.
Becky Lynch is a good wrestler,but you shouldn't take away
Banshee's spot to put Becky.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Lynch in that spot,
especially like I would
understand if it's like a personlike way lower than Becky Lynch
, but like they're like right,like right there.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
They're part of Four
Horsewomen.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
With Charlotte and
Sasha, aka Mercedes.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's debatable
whether like Bailey's better
than Becky Lynch like if they'renot on the same level.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's the thing.
They're all.
Four the four.
Four horse women.
Yeah, they're all on the samelevel.
Four horse women when you gotone horse woman replacing the
other.
It's not fair, yeah you know, Imean that's, not that's not
right bailey was just worldchampion.
Yeah, he was just worldchampion before.
Was the tiffany cashed in onher?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
uh was it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It was not a jacks
remember she won Nia Jax, so Nia
Jax, Nia Jax beat her.
So come on now.
I mean she was just worldchampion.
She won last year atWrestleMania.
She won a world championship.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And this year she's
not even on WrestleMania.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Everybody who was in
a world championship match last
year was in WrestleMania thisyear, except her.
What's interesting is she wasseparate.
Is that accurate?
Cody versus Roman Reigns?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Right Seth Rollins
versus Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah Yo, sky versus
Bayley.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And what was the
other?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
women's match oh
shoot.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Was it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Bianca.
I don't know, I can't think ofwho it was right now.
Wait, what's the otherchampionship?
Oh, it was Becky Lynch and RheaRipley.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
There you go, and if
Becky Lynch shows up tonight,
every single person that was inthe championship match last year
is going to be herself baby.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And it even applies
to Becky Lynch now.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Exactly if she shows
up, which we're pretty sure
she's going to show up.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's like who else if
it's not Bayley?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I mean it makes sense
that she shows up.
They're both from the sameplace, they both grew up
together Same wrestling school,finn Balor them, I think both of
them.
So it makes sense, but thedisrespect for Bayley though,
but with that being said, I gotLyra and, I'm assuming, becky
Lynch for the win against Raqueland Devin Morgan.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And in the next match
on the card it's another
misplaced person.
It's Randy Orton calling outsomeone.
And in the next match on thecard it's another mistake person
.
It's right during calling outsomeone in an open challenge.
Um, okay, so, um, I don't knowif we have the same person on
this one probably not um, but uh, you want, can I say mine?
(23:30):
Yeah, go ahead uh, I think thatit's gonna be Nick Aldis that
accepts the open challenge.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
That's what I think
too, but I just don't know,
because he should have alreadyannounced it.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I don't know, but go
ahead, I'm going to go ahead.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I think it's either
Nick Aldis or Soul Sahola.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Soul Sahola, that's.
That wouldn't be a good.
The fans will boo that.
Yeah, if they was going to dothat, they would already
announce it.
That way, the fans wouldn't gettheir hopes up.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
And then I bet when
Randy comes out, everybody's
going to say Nick Aldis, NickAldis, and then, if Solosakoa,
it's just going to kill thecrowd.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Exactly so.
If Solo's cool, it's just gonnakill the crowd.
Exactly so.
If you're gonna do that, youshould already have announced it
beforehand.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And have an open
challenge.
Either it's gonna be thesurprise or someone's coming
back.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It has to be Nick
Aldis or the fans just not gonna
like this, but either way, soloNick Aldis, really anybody
except, uh, alistair, black andrusev, if they alistair black's
not debuting until next week.
They already said oh yeah, theyalready did, but like rusev.
They they haven't announced hiscomeback could be him yeah, but
(24:46):
like, unless it's rusev, Idon't see a way to do it and
losing, so I'm picking wayne,whoever comes out they're not
gonna lose, especially nickaldis, because he doesn't need
to win.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He's just doing it
for if Nick Aldis comes out,
he's doing it for the love ofpro wrestling but Randy Orton
wins no matter what, but I'mpredicting that it's Nick Aldis
that comes up.
I'm kind of conflicted betweenI want to see Nick Aldis and
Randy Orton.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I just want to see
Nick Aldis and Randy Orton.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I just want to see a
match.
I mean, nick Aldis can still go, he's not that old.
I want to see Nick Aldis go.
He was just NWA world champbefore he came to WWE.
Not that long before that helost his belt.
But he was NWA world championnot too long before he came to
WWE.
But yeah, nick Aldis or Rusev Idon't see anybody else, I
(25:38):
besides them two.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Like I said.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Aleister Black no,
because he's debuting.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
You don't see Solo
Sokoa though.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
No, because the fans
would boo that match, because
that would be a swerve, thatwould be a slap in the face of
the fans, because if that wasthe case, you should already
have made that match when Solocame back the last time, when
Randy was talking.
You should have made that matchback then.
You should have alreadyannounced it then.
But the fact you didn'tannounce it means that you're
(26:07):
not sure.
Yeah, which that's what.
I don't think he's going to besolo, because if it was solo,
then you should have alreadyannounced it then.
Mm-hmm, but the fact you didn'tmeans that you know.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So that's why I got
Nick Aldridge for Rusev.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
But I'm leaning more
toward Nick Aldridge.
Yeah, just cause Rusev is justnow coming back and he gonna
start off his first match backas a loss yeah, I don't think it
should be Rusev cuz I don'twant him to lose his first match
, but because Kevin Owens gothurt, that could be Sami Zayn
coming back for his best friend.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean not his best
friend, you know.
I mean they own it all.
But you know it could be SamiZayn coming back, which is a
popular crowd too, cause heain't been back in how long
since Sami Zayn's been there?
Been a while.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
So Sami Zayn could
come.
So I don't know.
But yeah, I'm leaning towardNick also.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I want to see the
college, but after they go but
you agree, they're ready yes,right originally, whoever it is
but uh, yeah, for the yes we gosee for the main event.
It's Cody Rose versus John Cenafor the undisputed WWE
Championship.
And well, this has had anamazing build.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Hold on before you
get started on that, before we
get started on that real quick,another little thing I just
thought about why is no femalemid-card belt being defended at
WrestleMania?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, that's a fair
point, Because, like, why is
Lyra in a tag team match?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And Chelsea Green,
like goes, like, okay, okay.
Because like, why is lyra in atag team match actually?
And chelsea green.
And like because like okay,okay, it's not that the women
don't deserve to be onwrestlemania.
Because like, but like the typethe titles just like just
haven't been, like, like justbuilt up well, like at all, like
no, not these titles, um, uh,the uh, the Midcard titles.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Which is not been
Lara and um Chelsea.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, this has not
been built up.
Yeah, like they both have.
Uh, chelsea Green has a goodcharacter, uh, but yeah, but she
doesn't really like defend thetitle all that much, and Lara
just has to have.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, I don't know
why, at least put him on a
pre-show yeah, it should be onat least a pre-show when
wrestling it was one night, youhad a pre-show.
Now it's two nights.
You can have one match on apre-show yeah, I think Chelsea
Green and Zelina Vega.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
If there was a
pre-show, I think they should be
on it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You can put that on a
pre-show.
At least have them defend it ona pre-show oh, another thing I
just remembered.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Why do you remember
something?
Why is that tag team match TLC,by the way, next week.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
And not on
WrestleMania.
There was like an awe when NickAldis said next week Because
they had the perfect setup forit.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It was just right
there they just let it go.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It was right there
for it just, they just let it go
yep, it was right there for andthey blew it they could have a
TLC match with all the tag teamsinvolved, mhm, and there would
have been a, and ManchesterSports always does good in those
kind of matches yeah like thatwill probably be the best match
of the week, probably mhm.
But yeah, I'll have to say realquick, yeah, you got the.
(29:21):
The women's.
What is she?
Intercontinental champion,intercontinental champion going
after the tag team championship,and she's gonna be a double
champion, based on what wepredicted, because she's gonna
have a tag team championship aswell why would she even want
that?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
why would?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
she want that, unless
Becky turns on her and goes
after the IntercontinentalChampionship and calls her to
match.
Just thought about that myself.
Just thought about that.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You going to change
your prediction?
Hmm, yeah, I'm going to changeit.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I'm going to change
it.
Yeah, I'm going to change it.
I'm going to change it to Rhea,not Rhea.
Liv Morgan and Raquel.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
For that reason.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yep, for that reason
alone.
And that will cause there's noway they're gonna put two belts
on Lyra.
I just thought, but there's noway they're gonna put two belts
on Lyra.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
How come?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
She has the pinball
belts.
They're not gonna do that.
There's no way they really puttwo bills on people because
they're hard to defend both ofthem yeah so there has to be a
reason why they're doing this.
They're probably going to dothat.
They're gonna.
They're gonna make that.
She's gonna come back self.
Just turn heel, boom, make thatturn seal, she ain't been a
(30:38):
little while, if ever she has.
It's been a while, yeah, but shecomes back, she turns heel on
Lara Challenges for theintercontinental championship.
Backlashes.
There you go, yeah, but yeah,the fact that they're not
defending their belts atWrestleMania, come on now,
that's just ridiculous.
None of them, neither one ofthem, but anyways, sorry.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Back to the main
event.
But like I was saying, um, thishas been like an amazing build
so far and um, yep, uh with thepromos.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The promos have been
amazing cody rose actually stuck
with john cena a lot yeah, likeeverybody thought he was gonna
get buried I was scared forcalling for a second there he,
but he held his own like yeahand all the promos.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Like john cena like
goes into it a little bit and
then cody rose just comes backyeah, it was a couple, it was
one, that promo.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
When johnson's on my
barrier I said oh boy, here we
go, and then, but call you, heldhis own in that one and I was.
I was surprised, becauseusually that's when, that's when
john cena buries you yeah likehe did, roman reigns so was
thekoa Austin Theory.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, he does the
derby, all those people, it's
not.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
John Cena's fault.
It's just he's just testingthem.
Yeah, If you want to be a mainguy, you got to know how to talk
on the microphone.
Point blank period.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
And he almost did it
to Roman Reigns twice.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He did.
When did he do?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
that when he called
the Rock out for having a promo
reel in his hand.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh, yep, but yeah, I
think John Cena wins, with the
help of the Rock and SethRollins and Paul.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Heyman Yep, that's a
good one.
That's a good one there Tryingto get bonus points.
I see what you're doing there,but yeah, yeah, that's a good
one, anything else?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Nope, I definitely
see John Cena winning.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Of course, I think
John Cena wins Greatest record
17th time world champion.
This is last year.
Um, this is last year.
This is last WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Anyways, yeah, um
cause if not, if not now, when?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
wait, this is it.
This is last chance.
Yeah, cause he doesn't haveanother chance to win.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I mean he does where,
when else?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
SummerSlam maybe he
doesn't have another chance.
When does he have a rematch?
Oh yeah, he has no need to geta rematch.
But what can he?
Because he put it.
I think he lost the right wrong.
Today was so yeah, he puthimself in the elimination
chamber.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
He didn't qualify for
that yeah, oh yeah, that is
fair so well, how else can he goafter this?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
he can't put it.
What are you gonna do next?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
put himself in the
summer slam how because he's
aligned with with the wrong itworks, robin it.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I have no idea but um
, but yeah, so I don't know, I
guess.
Um, yeah, I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go John Cena as well,but it's tough.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Rollins gonna help
out John Cena because Seth
Rollins and Paul Heyman arealready together.
So if they, if they put them incells with the rock, I would
just be a super power yeah, I'mthinking about what Seth Rollins
(34:02):
has been saying about RomanReigns and CM Punk.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You see, what I'm
saying.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I'm not saying it
doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
He might not have
been all that, he could have
just been saying that and hecould have been delusional.
He could say that and notactually mean that stuff.
But I don't know that he could.
He could side with John Cenafor the betterment, because he
can now he could be like JohnCena, be like last year.
You know, he helped Cody Roseout and Cody Rose didn't do a
(34:31):
good job of holding the beltyeah, now he doesn't need the
belt.
John Cena is a better championand think about it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
think about this for
a second.
Seth Rollins helped Cody Rosewin the title, but never got a
match for the title, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Cody Rose didn't look
his way.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, Like after he
did WrestleMania, he didn't even
do anything.
Actually, he sided with RomanReigns, which is the entire
point that Seth Rollins helpedCody Rose out.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Oh yeah, that could
be the reason.
Right there he sided with RomanReigns.
That's right.
Taking that never.
That can do it.
You're right, I forgot aboutthat.
He did.
Siren running had a tag teammatch.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
And that could have
been Seth Rollins.
Yep it should be and um, butyeah, that's why I think that he
turns on Cody.
I think he runs out to thewhatnot, but it's not Because I
was.
I was gonna predict that he runsout to the ring like a baby
(35:28):
face and then about to stomp uhcena and then stomp uh cody rose
, but then he can't do thatanymore because they're just
gonna expect it.
So I just think, I don't know.
I think he just like slides inthe ring and like nobody noticed
it and then stomps Cody Rose.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Referee gets knocked
out or something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
The referee doesn't
have to get knocked out.
I mean, it's the Rock.
The Rock can just fire thereferee, just like that.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, but it's still
a one-man match, though you
still didn't get disqualified.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, but they didn't
get disqualified at
WrestleMania 4.
You and the Rock pulled out theRef like five times.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Like hit the Ref I
think I don't know, we'll see.
We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I mean the Rock can
do basically anything If the
Rock comes.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
We haven't seen the
Rock since the mission chamber.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I mean he has to
right we haven't seen him since
the mission chamber.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I mean, you would
think he would be there, but I
haven't seen him.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
So I mean, everything
was something yeah but uh, so
you're thinking John Cena yep,I'm thinking John Cena, with the
help of the rock.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Oh yeah, I'm also
thinking John Cena like this
bill has been amazing, though.
Uh, you know John Cena's lastyear of wrestling.
I don't know if it's going tobe last year of wrestling period
, like a thing, or his last yearof wrestling full time like a
Bryan Danielson.
I don't know which one he'sgoing to do.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
The way it sounds.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
He's done it.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, because Ric
Flair didn't do that, but I
think John Cena is serious aboutit.
Well, it sounds like he wantsdone.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
yeah, I was like Ric
Flair didn't do that, but I
think John Cena is serious aboutwell, it sounds like he wants
to do what the rock did, likehe's already guys on TV show he
does.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Oh, I didn't know
there's a separate those like.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
So this nice boy oh
yeah, don't TV show like season
2 or 3 now, but um, but yeahguys on TV show in movies.
So I think he's going totransition to like full-time
Hollywood, like the Rock did,yeah he's actually in a couple
games too.
Exactly so.
He wants to do that full-time,and so he wants to do that.
(37:36):
But then Willie Dover fromcoming back, he's gonna go into
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So he's gonna come
back to the Hall of Fame
eventually, but the Ross is notin the Hall of Fame, eddie.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Dang, I didn't even
realize that.
So Nah, he should get inductedtomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Well, it's rocking
the Hall of Fame.
It's rocking the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
No.
I don't think so, because whenhe gets announced they don't say
Hall of Fame, because they saidBooker T, two-time Hall of
Famer, and now they say Triple HHall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, Triple H is a
two-time Hall of Famer as well.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Oh yeah for.
Dx and.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, yes, I don't
know if John Cena's going to be
gone full-time, full-time, orhe's just going to be gone just
part-time like a Bryan Danielson, but regardless of what it is,
he gave us a good 20 years.
I've been watching him sinceday one, since the first time he
debuted against Kurt Angle withRufus.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Aggression dang,
that's crazy.
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I mean, didn't know
who he was, didn't know he was
going to be this, 20 years lateryou didn't know John Cena was
going to be John Cena, no,nobody did, nobody did.
If you say you knew he wasgoing to be world champion,
you're not telling the truth.
There's no way.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
He's going to be the
luckiest person in the world to
say that.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Is that just like if
you saw Stardust, you would say
he'd be world champion?
Absolutely not.
No way, there's no way you sawStardust wrestling and say
that's going to be a futureworld champion.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, no, there's no
way, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I don't think that
was on anybody's bingo card.
It wasn't.
It was not, absolutely not.
So to see those two guys closeout WrestleMania, cody used to
be Stardust, which that was ahard game.
That was a hard game.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh yeah.
That was hard, especially toget over too, but he was kind of
over though he was, but itwasn't gonna go.
Yeah, it wasn't like, like,even if you get like over, like
they will, yeah it's like gowith us brother.
You know his brother, dustinlike what's the biggest
accomplishment he did when thetag team, but he wanted.
I think I understand him butyeah, the big wolf, like that's
(39:40):
what I'm saying, but that's.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's about how's
your whole big car?
You're not going higher thanthat yeah well, you have to
leave.
I mean, he was making me, youknow, make get mad at him for
leaving, going aw, but he had toleave in order to get to the
next level yeah, because if hedidn't go to aw and all those
other places, where would he benow?
Exactly he had to go and get tothe next level.
He had to.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
So he might have been
at the spot alone, that, oh, or
like someone like otis, justlike a dead gimmick.
Just like a dead gimmick, youknow yeah, but that's.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
That's basically what
you have to do, though.
You have to go to the nextlevel, and when you did that, he
came back.
Yeah, he had to step away.
Sometimes you gotta leavesomewhere in order to get to the
next step.
It's hard work sometimes, youknow, in life, sometimes you
gotta step away in order to getwhere you wanna go, to get to.
You know, sometimes you feellike you might be stagnant
sometimes and you gotta stepaway or move, change pace,
(40:37):
change something to get to thenext one.
You know, to get to the nextone, you know, step out on a
limb and then do somethingdifferent.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
So that's what Kobe
did.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
He built himself.
So far it's paid off.
You know John Cena.
When he turned to the doctor ofeconomics, boom Instantly
changed.
Spinnerbilt came.
Then he became world champion.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Now it's John Cena, one of thegreatest of all time, if not the
greatest.
You know who you talk to yeahgetting ready to break rick
(41:07):
flair's record for mostchampionships in history 17.
Well, 16 of rick flair tiedright now 16.
You could have 17 by the end ofthe night, yeah, so but yeah,
john cena so far is what I'mgonna to go with when, like I
said, seth Rollins possiblyinvolved in the match.
But yeah, so far this has beena well wrestling night.
(41:32):
One is pretty good.
Second half was good.
First half seemed like a rawepisode wrestling night one the
second half felt like raw.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
No, first half, oh, I
was night one.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
The second half felt
like a Raw.
No first half.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Oh, I was about to
say the second half.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Second half was good.
First half seemed like a Rawyeah, a Raw Raw Plus almost Like
it was like a super version ofRaw.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Like Raw on Netflix
kind of.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Like a Raw yeah, like
Raw on Netflix, like a bigger
version of Raw.
But then second half got good.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Especially main,
bigger version of Raw.
But then second half got good,especially main event, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
But the main event,
like it's like, it's like a five
star for me.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
The main event say
WrestleMania night one that's
for sure, you think so for sure,I mean, it would just, it would
just been a regular PLE yeah, Ithink it would be like like I
think it was like a, b minus,and then the main event made it
maybe like maybe an A yeah, Imean, like I said, night one.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
The main event saved
it with Paul Heyman doing the
double turn.
I think.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I think if you look
back on like it, like in a, like
a, like a couple of years orlike down the line somewhere, if
you look back on WrestleMania41, night one, it'll be
remembered for the main thing.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, like I said,
paul Heyman doing the double
turn, sliding the chair to CMPunk, low blowing to him.
Roman Reigns thinking oh, I gotyour back, we're good.
I'm giving the chair to RomanReigns, letting Roman Reigns
beat up CM Punk it was kind ofweird, though.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Cuz like Paul Heyman
just like followed Roman Reigns
like right behind him.
Is that not suspicious?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
He was like right
across from him.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
But what I noticed
though I don't know if you
picked up on it, I let thereplay again today, when he
low-blowed CM Punk, he wasalmost crying a little bit right
.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
He was.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Well, he was upset,
remember he was like.
He was like you made me do.
I'm sorry, sorry, you know,kind of like that yeah when he
loved those rubber rings, hedidn't have any emotion yeah,
you know what I'm talking about,you notice that I didn't notice
that yes, I don't know if thatanything, if he was, if that was
I I, I know, I thought thosetears were like angry tears yeah
(43:42):
.
So, but yeah, I'm curious to seewhat happens.
If they're going to be on Rawon Monday, they should be on Raw
on Monday, after Raw, after Raw.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Oh yeah, they have to
be.
Especially Seth Rollins' entirelike thing is he's the
workhorse.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, exactly he
should.
If he's not on Raw on Monday,then everything he said is not
true.
Yeah, just interdisc ExactlyEverything he said makes him a
hypocrite.
But yeah, Ready to see nighttwo.
Let's get ready to see nighttwo and close this year's
WrestleMania.
Out and get ready for Backlash.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Backlash is probably
going to be good.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Anything else?
Nope, that's it.
Yep, all right.
Probably gonna be good.
Nope, yep, all right.
So I'm being I'm back withepisode of tag team talk.