March 1, 2025 • 43 mins
The excitement leading into the Elimination Chamber matches is electrifying, with predictions and strategies shaping the event's landscape. We analyze key matchups, share predictions, and dig into potential storylines.
• Predictions for tag team match featuring Tiffany Stratton and Trish Stratus
• Evaluation of the women’s Elimination Chamber competitors and their chances
• Discussion of the significance of the unsanctioned match between Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens
• An exploration of the men's Elimination Chamber match dynamics
• Speculation on possible interference and the implications for WrestleMania
• Will Cody sell his Soul.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
welcome to the ben and bash podcast tag team talk
I'm ben, I'm bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the ben
and bash podcast tag team talkall right for another one.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
today we are going to do our predictions for the
elimination chamber match, soyou know how that goes the
mission chamber going throughthe rundown, all the matches,
what's going on?
What do we think is going tohappen?
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, for the first match on the card, it's Tiffany
Stratton and Trish Stratusagainst Nia Jax and Candice
LeRae.
So for this one I expected.
When Trish Stratus was in thearena, I thought it was going to
be Tiffany Stratton versusTrish Stratus.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I thought the same thing too.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Because that would be like the best women's wrestler
to go against before CharlotteFlair.
Yeah, but I guess they'reteaming up to go against Nia Jax
and Tiffany, not TiffanyStratton, nia Jax and Candice
LeRae.
So for this one I think it'spretty clear cut.
I don't think Tiffany Strattonis losing right before
WrestleMania, especially withthe challenger the likes of
Charlotte Flair.
(01:17):
So I have Tiffany.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Stratton and Trish Stratus walking out with the win
.
Yeah, I thought Tiffany wasgoing to wrestle Trish as well
in this one, but you'reforgetting.
Charlotte said she's going tobe there too.
So who's to say thatCharlotte's not interfering in
the match and calls TiffanyStratton to win?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Why would she do that ?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Think mind games.
You know who daughter she is.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, you know who her dad is right.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You know what his nickname was?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
right, dirtiest player in the game but isn't her
whole.
Thing not to be like her dadshe's getting booed right now.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So why would she not be like him right now?
She's getting booed right now.
She didn't have to be when shewas getting cheered, but now
she's getting booed.
She may resort to do what hewas doing by being dirtiest
woman in the game.
Now, dirtiest player in thegame, I mean, why not?
That's mind games.
You cause Tiffany Stratton towin, or if she gets pinned, or
(02:11):
if Trish Stratus gets pinned,they lose.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I just don't see Tiffany Stratton kicking the pin
, but it's a tag team match.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You can take a pin and still keep your belt, though
See, there's no.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, but a pin is kind of like bad going into
Rouse for me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Exactly, that's the point.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why, if Charlotte doesinterfere, it would be a mind
game to get in, to get that'sthe whole point to get in their
head.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You see what I'm saying, tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So you have Nia Jax and Candice LeRae.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Hold on, I don't know , I'm just trying to run through
it.
So like you get into mindTiffany Stratton because she's
young, you got to think TiffanyStratton is young.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Charlotte Flair is what 13-time world champion?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, 14,.
I think 14.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So you see what I'm saying.
So you got to long time.
She's been around, since shewas a kid, grew up around it,
being her dad I mean olderbrother wrestled Both her
brothers wrestled, actually, soit's like she's been around her
entire life.
So she knows wrestling.
Tiffany Stratton just startedwrestling when she came to WB.
(03:16):
She was a gymnast or whateverit was yeah.
So you say, you picked.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I picked Tiffany Stratton they're in Toronto,
though.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's the problem.
They're in Toronto and I don't.
Are they gonna?
Are they gonna let?
Is Trish Stratton gonna lose inToronto, in her home country?
I don't think so her hometownactually it is oh no, she's
winning, she's guaranteed, she'sfrom Toronto, guaranteed it is
oh no, she's winning, she'sguaranteed guaranteed.
(03:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna go ahead.
I'm gonna go ahead and pickTiffany Stratton and Trish
Stratus, but Charlotte Ferrywill be out there, though she
will try to interfere in thematch, but it's not gonna work.
But, yeah, I'm gonna pickTiffany Stratton and Trish
Stratus to win for the nextmatch on the card.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
it's the Women's Elimination Chamber match, which
consists of Liv Morgan, biancaBelair, alexa Bliss, bailey
Naomi and Roxanne Perez, andthose have some really good
people in it, and this has, um,some really good people in it.
(04:30):
But, like I I thought I wasgonna like like clear cut, alexa
bliss, but I'm not sure nowbecause, like I actually thought
about it for a second and Ihave no idea, like who would
actually win this, so I'm gonnahave you go first so I can just
like build up my answer becauseI genuinely don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, I don't know either.
This is a hard one becausethere's no clear-cut winner at
all.
I mean, roxanne looks strong.
She looks the strongest out ofanybody right now.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, but I don't think she would win and go
against.
Remind you, she's going againstRhea Ripley.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That's what I'm saying, but she looks the
strongest, though I'm not sayingshe's going to win, but going
into it.
She's the frontrunner, goinginto it.
I mean because she— I mean,there's also Alexa Bliss, bianca
, yeah but look who has the lastwin against anybody else in
that match Roxanne Perez.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
She beat Bayley.
There was Liv Morgan, though.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, but Roxanne Perez beat Bayley, a multi-time
world champion and tag teamchampion yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I guess impressed beat Bailey, a multi-time world
champion and tag team champion,world Rumble winner Money in the
Bank.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Winner.
So I mean, you see what I'msaying.
Roxanne beat her.
She's going into the match withthe most momentum.
As far as that goes, I mean,yeah, Liv Morgan is going into
it too, but she's missing hertag team partner.
You gotta think Liv Morgan, butshe's going into a two, but
she's missing her tag teampartner.
So she's going, you got tothink Liv Morgan, Liv Morgan,
but she's going to a match withBianca and Naomi.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, which accused her?
That would Okay, exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Listen, I don't like Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez.
That's a two on one yeah.
So what happens when Bianca andNaomi are both in there with
Liv?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And Raquel's not there to help her out this time.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Mm-hmm, that was the most fake like video ever Like,
just because you were walking.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's the point.
They were walking after thefact.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They were the only people walking after the fact.
That's why they got blamed forit.
Still, though, because they arehealed, they They've done it.
I think they did it before.
Yeah, they did it to RheaRipley on NXT Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Why was Rhea Ripley there?
She knows how the NXT parkinglot is.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, she was there.
She was at NXT doing somethingelse.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So that's why they blame it on them, because they
had done it before.
Yeah, they did it to RheaRipley a few months before that
and put her out for a few monthswith the broken eye socket or
whatever it was.
So if they can do it to her,why can't they do it to Jade?
I don't think they did either,but I mean it's not impossible
(06:57):
for them to do it.
It's not too far off, Exactlybecause they've done it before
and they were walking away fromthe action.
They were walking away from whatwas happening after the fact.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So I mean looking at it, I mean obviously, obviously
Bianca or Naomi did it.
I think Bianca did it.
To be honest with you, I thinkBianca did it, and then,
especially with Naomi, justtaking the pin and losing the
belts.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, Naomi took the pin and she lost the belts.
I think Bianca did it.
That's what I'm going to gowith Bianca.
She's the one who attacked Jade.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Wait, you said Bianca would win the match.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
No, I'm saying Bianca's the one who attacked
Jade.
All right, yeah, that's what Ithink I'm going future, but for
this match, whoever wins thiswrestles.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Rhea Ripley.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Rhea Ripley.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Now I'm going to break down each person.
So first Liv Morgan.
I potentially see her winningif Io Sky also is in that match.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And Bianca.
That's a good match, butthere's a different road, a
different path that she needs togo on.
For WrestleMania and AlexaBliss, I could confidently say
that she's going to win, but Idon't know.
And then Bayley, naomi andRoxanne.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, I got my pick.
I'm thinking about WrestleMania.
Wrestlemania is the next.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That's the next event , right?
Yeah, there's nothing else inbetween here, between the
Elimination Chamber andWrestleMania, right?
No, there used to be Fastlane,but they moved that to like I
don't know when.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
This is what I'm saying.
There's nothing else.
After Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Before WrestleMania no, I don't think so no.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Okay, I'm got to think the Bills to WrestleMania.
You got to have WrestleManiamatches, right?
Okay, Liv Morgan is tag teamchampion.
The tag team champ's got todefend the Bills at WrestleMania
.
Why else would she have?
You got two nights.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Defend the Bills at WrestleMania.
All the Bills should bedefending WrestleMania period.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh yeah, all the Bills Most definitely Okay then.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So Liv Morgan can't win this match if she's a tag
team champion.
I wouldn't say can't.
Well, that'd be two matches inone or two nights, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
She could be second night and then that match.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I know she could, but realistically Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
All right, bayley, her and Roxanne are going to.
It's like they're going to feudwith each other.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
it seems like I think Roxanne's going to eliminate
Bayley, or the other way around.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, I think they're going to feud with each other
at WrestleMania, because that'sthe future versus the present.
Slash past.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Because there's a picture of Roxanne, when she was
a kid, taking a picture withBayley.
Oh yeah, that sounds like heridol growing up, so I think
they're going to have theirWrestleMania moment with each
other.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Bianca and Naomi.
They're going to be stuck inthe Jade feud, mm-hmm, so it
only leaves one person.
Alexa Bliss.
Yeah, and then you can bring inthe Y6 with that as well.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean, I don't think that I feel like the Y6 needs
Alexa Bliss, but now Alexa Blissdoesn't need the Y6 nope, but
if you watch the Smackdown, yeah, they show the Y6 after she did
the thing after she did.
The does nobody see that likeever that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They just do, they just do the Y6 thing.
So that's the.
I think Alexa Bliss is gonnawin this match just by just
Elimination.
That's not who I want to win.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Who did you want to win, bianca?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
or Bayley, and a third is Rakten.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But Bianca or Bayley, I think, would be the better
match for Rhea Ripley.
Bianca for sure would be thebetter match for Rhea Ripley as
far as power for power, skillfor skill, just a better matchup
all the way around.
Bayley, because she's a veteran, she can.
She can wrestle against anybodypretty much.
Yeah, she's like, she's likeNatalia, she can probably match
(10:51):
against anybody.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, bayley can.
She's like Natalia, she canpretty much.
So that's what I think.
I mean.
I'm just going to pick AlexaBliss Just by process of
elimination.
Like I said, liz is going to bestuck in a tag team Tag, not
stuck, but she's going to bedefending her tag team belt or
whatever adjustment they gotgoing on.
Naomi Bianca's going to begoing on.
(11:14):
Whoever's going to be feudingOne of them's going to be
feuding with Jade, not sureabout the other one.
Maybe in a three-way Roxanne isgonna be wrestling Bayley at
WrestleMania at least AlexaBliss.
That's my.
(11:34):
That's my prediction, justbased on elimination but um, so
yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So you said Alexa, bliss right yeah, but it's for
positive elimination so myoriginal pick was alexa bliss,
but then I just don't know.
But but from what you said,yeah, alexa bliss, and like
she's on a build-up coming backbut just came back too, yeah you
know this might be a mistake,but I'm gonna say live morgan
(12:10):
live morgan.
Okay, any reason just um, Ithink that she's gonna win the
eos guy, like she's gonnainterfere with eos guy's match
or something like that.
There there's just going to bea triple threat at WrestleMania
Liv Morgan, io Sky and RheaRipley.
That's what I think is going tohappen.
That's what I hope happens.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Okay, gotcha All right.
Anything else on that match?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Nope.
All right, wait, do you thinkJade comes back During this
match?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Nope, all right, wait , do you think?
Jade comes back During thismatch.
Yep, she has to come backeventually.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, she can't come back the week before
WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
No, if it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
If Jade doesn't come backbefore WrestleMania, I feel like
Bianca's going to win this IfJade doesn't come back before
WrestleMania.
But yeah, I'm going to stickwith Liv Morgan.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I think she may come out tonight and interfere in a
match.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, but who would she interfere, liv Morgan or
Bianca?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Whoever attacked her, she's going to come out and go
for it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think she's going to go for Liv Morgan no no, no,
I think it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I don't know if it's going to happen tonight in the
chamber, or Raw, or whatever.
But I think what's going tohappen is they're going to be in
a ring Liv Morgan, rhea, bianca, naomi whoever Jay comes out,
she looks at Rhea Rip, not RheaRip, but she looks at Liv Morgan
and Raquel and then she punchesNaomi or Bianca whoever
(13:56):
attacked her.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You know what I'm saying.
And then the crowd's likewhat's she doing that for?
And the announcer's like oh my,why'd she hit her for?
You know all that?
Then find out that's whoattacked her.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So, then, they find mysterious security footage of
her attacking her, of whoeverattacked her attacking her.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, they do that a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, then they're going to actually find the
security footage then.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, like they only find the security footage after
they know who attacked him.
Yeah, they only find thesecurity After they know who
attacked him.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
But that's what you're gonna say For that and.
And the next match In the cardis Sami Zayn Versus Kevin Owens
In an un-sectioned match.
So this is their home country,so yeah.
What an unsanctioned match.
So um, this is their homecountry, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Um what no?
No unsanctioned matches.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
It's basically extreme rules.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, there's no, there are no rules.
It's just just a match.
It's literally just.
Since Sami Zayn is injured, wwecan't sanction the match.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So it's just an extreme rules match it's a fancy
extreme rules match.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
No, it's not an extreme rules match.
It's basically a way of sayingthat WWE's not liable for what
happens in the match.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So if they get hurt?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So it's a fancy extreme rules match.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, because that's a sanctioned match.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What does sanctioned mean?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That means it's approved by WWE.
They approved it.
If they get hurt, wwe takesliability for it.
They help them out with allthat kind of stuff.
Unsanctioned means WWE.
We're not approving this match.
We're going to let y'allwrestle, but don't come to us if
something happens to any one ofy'all so there's no rules
though there's no rules in thematch and WWE's not approving it
(15:45):
.
Oh, it's not an approved WWEmatch.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So why would they let them wrestle?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Because they want to wrestle.
That's why it's unsanctioned,because Sami Zayn is not cleared
to wrestle.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
But he needs to wrestle and he wants to wrestle,
so they're making itunsanctioned that way, because
he's not cleared by a doctor.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So if he gets re-injured he can't come back
and sue or whatever.
You know how that goes.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
He can't come back and blame it on me for getting
him hurt, for putting him inthat match, because he's injured
.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It was like the Seth Rollins had an unsanctioned
match.
Was it Brock Lesnar atWrestleMania a few years ago
with his knee?
I?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Was it Brock Lesnar at?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
WrestleMania a few years ago with his knee, I don't
know.
I was there too.
I want to say it was BrockLesnar, it was an unsanctioned
match.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I remember that match .
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It was an unsanctioned match that was at.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
WrestleMania right.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, oh, it was an unsanctioned match.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But he had the title right, or Brock had the title.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think Brock had the title.
Seth Rollins had re-injured hisknee when he had surgery on and
kept him out for a while and hewas an unsanctioned match
because he wasn't clear, becausehis knee was still messed up,
but he was unsanctioned.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Didn't he win that, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I can't remember, but I remember Seth Rollins was an
unsanctioned match in WWE before.
But, yeah, it's basically a norules match.
It's just referee's just thereto count the pinfall or the
submission, that's it, and WB'snot held liable for what happens
.
So that's just.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
They're there to fight so an extreme rules match,
but they're not held liable forit pretty much.
Okay, yeah, pretty much so whodo you got winning um?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I mean, this match has been going on for decades
now.
I remember them wrestling inthe Ring of Honor when I was
younger, so I mean, but thisright here is different though.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh yeah, way different, like he tried to end
his career.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I mean, they showed up at each other's houses.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I mean they know each other.
They've been knowing each otherfor decades, so obviously they
know each other's parents.
They know each other's parents,they know each other's siblings
, they know each other's kids.
They hung out with each other'skids.
I mean, their kids know them.
I mean so this is a littledifferent though showing up at
each other's house like thatSammy went to Kevin Owens' house
where his mom was there.
(18:01):
I mean, you know, had that beenKevin Owens showing up at Sammy
Zane's house and Sammy's mom wasthere that would be a lot
different would.
Would Sammy?
Would Kevin Owens just beentalking to her or would he
attack her cause?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
you can't put anything past Kevin Owens yeah
so but like, um, one thing, likeit was so smooth how Kevin
Owens was just talking and thenthey panned the camera to
Sammy's house.
But for me, I think Kevin Owens, I don't know if Randy's coming
(18:38):
, that's the thing.
I think if Randy comes, sammy'swinning.
If he doesn't come right now orcomes on a Raw or SmackDown, I
think Kevin Owens is winning.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
But I'm going to say Kevin Owens is winning this
match.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I hope they wrestle atWrestleMania again too.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, because I— I'd rather see another match.
Yeah, I would rather see RandyOrton.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, I can see Kevin .
I can watch Kevin Owens andSami Zayn wrestle all the time.
Yeah, I can watch Kevin Owensand Sami Zayn wrestle all the
time.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Because I would rather see this match than Randy
Orton versus Kevin Owens.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, I can watch Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens
wrestle all the time.
Mm-hmm, I'm not tired of it yet.
Yeah, and they don't wrestleall the time either.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
That's one of the things that probably won't get
boring for a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Because they don't wrestle all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, they space it out.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
If they wrestled all the time, yeah, we'd get boring
quick.
But when they do wrestle eachother, it's personal, because
they've been knowing each othersince they were teenagers.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Like that's how they knew each other from wrestling,
you know.
They got a love for wrestlingtogether, you know Mm-hmm.
And so they grew up watchingwrestling together, then
watching wrestling together.
Then they both startedwrestling around the same time
together, and they both made itto be around the same time.
Sami Zayn came first, thoughjust by Kevin Owens, probably
jealous of him.
Sami Zayn got hired, but that'dbe first, and then Kevin Owens
(19:56):
came later yeah so, but thenKevin Owens beat Sami Zayn for
NXT championship, and then KevinOwens went to the main roster
before Sami Zayn did, so it'sback and forth their whole
career.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I was watching an old video.
It was the Motor City MachineGuns versus Kevin Steen and El
Generico.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well, that's not the same person as Sami Zayn.
Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Hey, El Generico is still.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
He looks kind of like Sami Zayn, but he's not really
Sammy Zane, though, is he?
Yeah, he is.
No, he's not.
He's less a different person.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
How is El Generico a different person, he's got a
mask on.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You don't know who that is under that mask, just
saying Sure, okay, you don'tknow who that is under that mask
.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
He's like a random person with teamwork with Kevin
Owens.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't know who he's under that mask.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I've seen, sami Zayn, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Have you seen El Generico take his mask off and
see Sami Zayn under the mask?
The answer is no.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I've seen Sami Zayn, though.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yes, I've seen Sami Zayn too.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You said have you ever seen El Generico take off
his mask?
I see El Generico take off hismask every single week, because
it's just Sami Zayn.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You're not seeing him take his mask off, though.
I'm just saying, every time Isee Eric DeNiro, he has his mask
on.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Have you ever seen Rey Mysterio without his mask on
?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yes, you have.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
No, no, I've also seen Rey Mysterio take his mask
off.
That's the difference ReyMysterio took his mask off and
showed his face.
Eric DeNiro has never taken hismask off.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Are you sure about that?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, I don't know who he is under the mask, so you
can say he's Sami Zayn.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So if I ask Sami Zayn if he's El Generico, he won't
say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
He's going to say no.
He's going to say he's a goodwrestler, but no, he's not El.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Generico, he's Sami Zayn, you think Just saying Go
ahead Well yeah, I think KevinOwens is going to win.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, seministas win though.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Does he?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
really yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Does he really though ?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
He does.
I mean he's been losing a lotrecently.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Listen who he's been losing to.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's what I'm saying, though, drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, cm Punk, exactly Seth.
No, yeah, seth Rollins, butlike listen.
And then Kevin Owens.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
He has not won a match all year.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
No, no, yeah, he won.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
When did he win a match?
Didn?
No, yeah, he went.
When did?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
he win a match, didn't he like Roll up Drew
McIntyre that one time?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Was that with Jey Uso ?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, but also Someone else.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Oh, that was Jimmy Uso I think both of them did it.
Did Sammy do it too.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know.
I know he got beat by DrewMcIntyre, but I don't know if he
rolled him up any.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I can't remember either, but yeah, but yeah, I
mean Sammy needs to win, though,so you going?
Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yep, I'm going.
Kevin Owens.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm going with Sammy Just cause you going.
Kevin Owens, you know I kindawant Kevin to win, but I thought
you said Sammy needs to win.
He does Need to win.
But I kinda want Kevin Owens towin.
But Sammy needs to win.
I'm going with Sammy, justcause you going, kevin.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So yeah, for the next match on the card is john cena
versus cm punk versus joemcintyre versus logan paul
versus damian priest versus sethrollins in the men's
elimination chamber match and um, everybody on smackdown.
If you watch smackdown alreadyeverybody came out and I thought
(23:27):
john cena was gonna come come,except John Cena.
I thought Logan Paul was goingto come out, then John Cena, but
then when I heard John Cena'smusic, I just assumed that it
was going to be John Cena,everybody did.
Yeah, and then Logan Paul comesout.
That was a good heel thing todo.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That was just as good as Stone Cold did, yeah, and
somebody else did it too.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The Miz.
He does that a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
The Miz did it With the Rock LA.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Knight and someone else.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
John Cena.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, with John Cena, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
He did it as John Cena.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But Logan Paul didn't wear the costume.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It was actually him, and Maryse did it, as John Cena
and Nikki.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Bell.
Oh, John Cena and Nikki Bell.
Oh, yeah, I remember them.
Well, no, I don't remember it.
Oh yeah, they did both of them.
Yeah, because they had like amatch at WrestleMania or
something.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, it was like a mixed tag team match.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But for this one, I think it's easy it's either CM
Punk or John Cena.
That's the only way I see itand the only way, absolutely
only way I see it.
Hmm, hmm, think about it.
Seth Rollins, he's not winning.
Damien Priest he's not winning,he's booked well, but he's not
winning.
Logan Paul, like, come on, man,logan Paul, drew McIntyre, he's
(24:37):
been on a downward spiral ofgetting rolled up to the
bloodline CM Punk, a crediblechallenger.
John Cena, the man who is goingto win.
You know, there's other peopleJohn Cena, john Cena and John
Cena.
That's the only answer.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Maybe CM Punk.
I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This Seth Rollins is not going to win.
Nope, cm Punk is not going towin.
Nope, cm Punk is not going towin why?
One word Former world champion.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Roman, how is that one word that was like Roman
Sure, so you think he's going tointerfere.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Rory Rumble.
Do we not remember having RoryRumble?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah, who are the?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Roman Reigns.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But then also Seth Rollins.
That's what I'm saying SethRollins.
I think it's going to be atriple threat at Mania.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Seth Rollins and CM Punk.
I just said it.
Both of those guys are notwinning because of one man.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Roman.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yep.
What happened to Rory Rumble,who made Roman Reigns?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
A combination of Seth Rollins and CM Punk.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, what happened when they got out the ring?
Seth Rollins stomped him,stomped him with both feet.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Both feet.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't see how you do that and not just murder the
person.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Exactly, that was personal.
Both feet, both feet.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Kicked him with both feet, then him and CM Punk got
into it, and then he stepped himagain stopped him again.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
All the steps.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You think roman's gonna let that slide like it was
.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It was it was so smooth like he like double stops
, roman reigns and then justwent straight into uh fighting
sam.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You think roman reign going to let that slide.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Uh no.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Exactly.
So you're forgetting one thingtoo.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
What.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
One more important thing that ain't talked about in
a while yet.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
What.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
What's the favor?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh yeah, they haven't .
Speaker 2 (26:38):
What's the favor that Paul Heyman owes CM Punk?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
But wouldn't the favor be good for CM Punk?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yes, a match against Roman Reigns.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Why would CM Punk waste his favor on Roman Reigns?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Because Roman Reigns is going to cost him the Miz
Chamber match.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Why would he need a favor from Paul Heyman to
wrestle Roman Reigns?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Because Roman Reigns is not going to wrestle him.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So you think Paul Heyman is going to make Roman
Reigns wrestle him?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's the favor.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
yes, I think the favor is going to be better than
that.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, that's the WrestleMania.
That's the favor To wrestleRoman Reigns at WrestleMania,
Because Roman Reigns is above.
He's going to think he's aboveCM Punk.
I think he's going to thinkhe's Roman Reigns.
He's been the main event atWrestleMania for the past.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Three.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
WrestleMania straight .
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Oh yeah, five, because I think he was 20.
Oh no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
This past WrestleMania.
He was both nights.
He was both nights main eventBefore that against Cody Rhodes
Before that Against Brock Lesnar.
Before that against.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Oh Edge and.
Yeah that was Edge and DanielBryan that year.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
The Edge and Daniel Bryan that year.
No, that was Edge and DanielBryan, and then Brock the.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Edge and Daniel Bryan that year.
Yeah, or they brought Edge andDaniel.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Bryan again.
No, that was Edge and DanielBryan, and they brought Edge and
Daniel Bryan before that, rightI think so, yeah, yeah.
So it's like four or five yearsstraight he's been wrestling in
the main event, Yep.
So I mean, you think he's goingto want to wrestle CM Punk in a
match?
I guess not Him and SethRollins.
He don't want to kill SethRollins Because Seth Rollins
(28:09):
stumped him in the face.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know, I think maybe what happened?
It's going to be like RomanReigns and Seth Rollins
guaranteed for WrestleMania, andthen CM Punk's going to catch
him.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
He's going to ask for the favor and then get inserted
into that match.
It's a triple threat match.
That's what I'm saying.
The favor.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And there's a triple threat match.
That's what I'm saying, thefavor, and you know what would
be better though I don't knowbetter, but it would just be
more stakes to the match If thewinner goes on to night two and
Rosso's John Cena and CodyRhodes in the triple threat, or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
No, that's going to be night two right there.
That match is going to be anight two match.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Night two.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Or night, one main event.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't think it's your main event at all.
What's going?
What's going?
Main event though, um thewomen's?
Oh, jay jay.
Jay jay was on gunther and thenjohn cena is gonna main event
um the night two with cody rose.
Wait, I know no, just cause youwin.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Roy rumble don't mean your main event yeah, but
shinsuke didn't main eventwrestlemania he didn't, did he
not, did he rest?
He won.
I don't remember evenwrestlemania, I don't remember
no, I think he wait.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, that was the.
You were roman in the rock.
No, not roman in the rock.
Roman and brock, wasn't it?
I think so dang yeah, that wasat that the the indian apple,
not indiana new orleans.
Show right I think.
That terrible main event.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, that was that.
So yeah, Shinsuke won it.
He didn't main event.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, he should have main evented though.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But I'm saying you win a Royal Rumble, you're
supposed to be guaranteed a mainevent.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Well guaranteed a match.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, no, no, that's not what it says.
The Royal Rumble if it's theRoyal Rumble, it says you are
the winner of the Royal Rumbleis guaranteed to main event
WrestleMania.
That's what it says.
If you're not going to do itanymore, just say you're
guaranteed a top match atWrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's what they should say.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Don't say main event, because you're not the main
event if you're not main event.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
How I feel about it if Jey Uso and Gunther is not
going to be spectacular.
It shouldn't be main event.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No so what's going to happen is Gunter and Jay is
going to be night one.
Night two is going to be Codyversus whoever wins in the
mission chamber.
That's going to be night two,because you got two nights now.
Yeah, so you don't have to doit.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I like the two night act best so you don't have to be
up for like five hours watchingWrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So night one is going to be Jay and Gunter.
Main event Night 2 is Codyversus whoever happens, and we
got it and we'll talk about itin a second.
But, um, so yeah, I think JohnCena's gonna win, just because
it's well, okay, okay, here here.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Here at what.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Hear me out.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I think I know what you're about to say.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I don't want to say this, I don't want to put this
out here.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I think you're gonna jinx me.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't want to put this out here.
Okay, mm-hmm, sif and CM Punk.
I'm going to do the same thingI did with the women's match Yep
, sif and CM Punk.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
They're going to be booked up with Roman.
Roman is not going to let thatslide.
What happened?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
to Rory Rumble.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yep Right, okay, cool , it seems wrestle.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, don't do it, don't do it.
Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I don't want to, I'm just going through the match.
It seems like Drew and Damianare going to wrestle.
Right, they're going to wrestle.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Don't do it.
I know what you're about to do.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
They're going to wrestle at Mania.
It seems like they were goingat each other pretty hard on
SmackDown.
That leaves two people.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I think they're going to be the final two if Logan
Paul beats John Cena no, no, I'mjust saying just hear me out,
though.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Just hear me out, though.
Think about what he did onSmackdown oh yeah he came out to
John Cena music the crowd.
Just hear me out, though.
Just hear me out, though.
Think about what he did on.
Smackdown oh yeah, he came outto John Cena music.
The crowd was from cheering himto booing him.
Right yeah, if he beats JohnCena, he is going to have.
Donovan Stereo type of heat.
(32:05):
Yeah, until.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
WrestleMania Until.
No, he's going to have it, no,but I'm saying Until, like three
Master WrestleMania until.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
WrestleMania.
He will get booed.
No, he's gonna have it.
Every time he comes out, though, he will get booed out the
arena, like the New Day was, andlike Dominic Mysterio but one
thing.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I hope he doesn't, but like that would be like the
biggest swerve in the history oflike stuff, you know one thing
I would say if John Cena won theRoyal Rumble and picked Cody
Rose, I think if Gunther was theperson who you're going to face
(32:39):
, if he won this, I feel likeLogan Paul and Damian Priest
would have a way higher percentchance.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
If he was going against no Gunther.
Yeah, but you're not goingagainst Cody.
Oh yeah, you're going against.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Cody.
I just don't see Logan Paulwrestling Cody Rose, especially
at Mania.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That's what I'm saying, so I think it's like I
said I don't want it to be, butit's going to be between John
Cena and Logan Paul.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And another thing that people have said maybe John
Cena and Logan Paul wrestle atWrestleMania and there's also
the same thing at CM Punk.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
But then who's going to wrestle against Cody Rhodes?
Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Or Seth Rollins.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Seth Rollins is going to be second with Roman Reigns.
He's going to be second withRoman.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Reigns.
What about Drew McIntyre?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
He's going to be second with Damian Priest for
more likely.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't know Dang Well, there's just a lot of
things that can happen.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I'm going to hope Logan Paul does not win and I'm
going to go with John Cena.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I think John Cena and Logan Paul are going to be the
final two and John Cena wins.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, that's what I'm going to think, that's what I'm
going to go to.
Hopefully the oppositedirection Logan wins and beat
John Cena, but I think John.
Cena's going to win.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Mm-hmm.
And next, the only non-matchedthing that's going to happen
tonight Will Cody Rose sell hissoul to the Rock?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
No, what you don't think so, absolutely not.
I don't know because.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Because he has all this fancy stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, we got to remember too.
You weren't born yet, but youwere in the Attitude Era.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Oh, not John Cena.
The Rock was Vince McMahon'sCorp.
That's what I'm talking about.
I was talking about the otherone that happened around that
same time too Stone Cold versus,not versus.
He was Corp of Champion.
Well, not, not versus, he wasKerber champion.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
He joined Vince McMahon.
Nobody expected that one.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They were like rivals for a long time.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
They were rivals.
And Stone Cold shook his handat WrestleMania and joined
forces with Vince McMahon.
Nobody expected that, and ifStone Cold can do that, anybody
can do it Literally.
The Rock did it and became thecorporate champion, but that's
(34:58):
not hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, that's really not.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
He was already going to Hollywood.
Anyways, that's what it seemslike they're doing.
It's like the Rock is trying tobe the corporate guy.
He is the corporate guy.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Now he's the corporate guy, he's the
corporate champion.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, he's the corporate guy.
Now he's trying to make Codyhis guy.
But what happens if the Rockhas a backup plan?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Right, you know what would be crazy If CM Punk or
Seth Rollins is his plan B?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
No, you're thinking too.
No, that's too easy.
What about?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Why is that too easy?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
What if?
What if Logan or John?
What about John Cena?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
No like.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
What about John Cena, for instance?
So think about the, think aboutit for a second, think about
this for a second.
This is John Cena's last leg.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Mm-hmm Right, yep.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
This is last WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Say he loses the Mexican Chamber.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Say Drew wins or somebody else wins.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Why would John Cena not go to the Rock, sell his
soul to the Rock, have the Rockpull strings, insert him into
that match at WrestleMania, makea triple threat match.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But why would he join the person who's led his demise
so many times, john Cena?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, Because this is his last match.
This is his last chance to wina championship.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
You don't know that he has an entire year left.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
If he loses again?
He lost the Royal Rumble If heloses the Elimination Chamber,
where else does he go?
Money in the bank?
He's not wrestling next year,so he can't keep the belt for a
whole year.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
So even if he does win Money in the Bank, he has to
cash in before the end of theyear yeah.
So, even if he is in the Moneyin the Bank match.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
He's going to lose it in like six months.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Exactly so.
If he's going to win the belt,it has to be WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah.
And he has to go on theWrestleMania run and he's going
to pull a Ric Flair, which Idon't think he is, because if he
, okay, let's say he wins theMoney in the Bank match Cool, he
cashes in sometime later thisyear he's going to retire with
the belt.
Oh, he can't retire with thebelt.
That's what I'm saying I thinkit's either he's going to lose
his last match or he just can'tget his title.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So he has to win at WrestleMania or somewhere close
to WrestleMania, or somewhereclose to WrestleMania, hold a
belt for a little bit of timeand then lose it somewhere
toward the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
If he's going to go out like that, or he could go
out retired and just relinquishthe belt on this last, the last
day, the last show of the year,yeah, as champion, go out as
champion, mm-hmm, and neveractually lose his belt.
You know, and I, if he everwanted to come back, he can
always say I never lost my belt,I'm on a match.
If he ever wanted that, onemore match like.
(37:51):
The Rock does.
But I don't know about this theRock and Cody Rhodes thing.
I mean, everybody wants to seeHomelander Rhodes.
Everybody wants to see thatHomelander Cody Rhodes thing.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
But will Corporate Cody Rhodes be?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Homelander though.
Yes, he already showed it.
He's been showing it alreadysince the Brock Lesnar match,
since the Brock Lesnar matchwhen he busted his head with the
steel with the steps.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Is that another disqualification?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
That's what I'm saying.
He did that during the matchand then he did it against Brock
Lesnar.
He hit him with steel steps.
Nobody said anything about it.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
He did that with AJ Styles after the match then he
hit AJ Styles.
After the match, aj Styles gaveup and he still hit him yeah
that's a heel right but like soJohn Cena did that but, and he
never became.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, but John Cena was heel early in his career,
though oh yeah, would you reallycall that a heel character?
Speaker 1 (38:42):
yeah, that that a heel character, wasn't that just
like a kind of comedy?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
no, that was a heel character.
That was a heel character buthe was likable though yeah, but
it was, he was a heel though.
That was a heel characterthough too.
Um, yeah, and then then youknow, then cody rose with the
whole kevin ornish thing.
Yeah, try to him.
I mean, what good guy you knowtrying to kill another man in
(39:07):
the match.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
You know, there's this guy called Cactus Jack, but
I don't know Cactus Jack wasn'ta babyface or a heel, he was
just a guy.
How do you know if he wasn't ababyface or a heel?
Everybody cheered him.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
He was neutral.
Everybody cheered him, so he'sa babyface.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, but he was neutral, though.
He didn't care if anybody likedhim or not.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
He's neutral.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
But he didn't go out there to get cheered or booed.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, he just went out there to Every match he was
in the babyface category Everysingle match.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, but what I'm saying is he went out there just
to beat up people.
He didn't go out there to getcheered or booed.
He went out there to just beatup people in a match.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, and that was it .
That was all he did.
He was also this guy calledKevin Owens, like before, he was
a heel.
Yeah, but Kevin Owens is always, he jumped off like three
stages to just to go through atable, through Roman Reigns,
yeah, and it missed.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
But that made him a babyface because he was going
against armor rings.
Sometimes who you go againstmakes you a de facto.
You know, baby face regardless.
You know sometimes you be both.
You can't have two baby facesor two heels rest each other a
lot of times, so one of them hasto be the baby face, one has to
be heel yeah so that's just howit works sometimes but yeah,
(40:25):
well, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
He wasn't like booked to be either one Cause, like
the last second Adam Pierce likejust canceled his thing and
then yeah.
Kevin Owens was the answer.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, I don't know man, I want to see Cody.
I want to see Cody do it andturn heel.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, I feel like everybody does.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
But I want to see both.
I want to see Cody Rhodes turnheel, but I also want to see
what happens when he tells theRock no yeah, and see what the
Rock has planned after that.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Like what is he going to do if he says no, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I want to see both.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I think the Rock is going to be like if he says no,
because he gives all this stuffjust basically for nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
That's what I'm saying.
I want to see both, but youcan't have both.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
You can't do both, because you can't say no,
actually yes.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, which one do?
I want to see more though.
I would Cody.
Well, okay, how about this?
You can get both.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Can you really?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
go, yeah, you can get .
You can get Cody saying no tothe Rock, the Rock's backup plan
, whatever that is yeah, and youcan get home under Rose after
he loses at WrestleMania.
I guess, Because of the Rock.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Because he said no to the Rock.
The Rock's going to cost himWrestleMania and loses his belt.
What if the Rock's going tocost him at WrestleMania and
loses his belt.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
What if the person who fights Cody Rose at
WrestleMania is the Rock'sCorbett Tramp?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
That's what I'm saying and that person beats
Cody Rose because of the Rock orif the Rock puts himself in the
match.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I mean, he is the Corbett Tramp.
He can do whatever he wants todo.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
He can do whatever he wants to do.
He's the boss.
He's Triple H's boss,technically yeah.
I guess, so he can do whateverhe wants to do.
Why?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
would Triple H put someone above himself.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
He didn't put himself above him.
Who did?
The people who owned the WWE?
Oh, that's weird.
They put the Rock up there.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I thought Triple H did that.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
No, no, no.
That's not how that works.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Does Triple H not have that type of power?
No, oh.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
No, he runs the WB.
Him and Nick Khan run the WB,and then the Rock is on the
board of TKO.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Isn't Nick Khan the person who runs AEW?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
No, that's Tony Khan.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Oh, Tony Khan.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Tony Khan.
Yeah, nick Khan is on.
It's on the.
It's got to be same last name,but no relation.
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, it would be crazy if it was really.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
it would be crazy, but it's no relation I know of
anyways, but anything elsethough.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Uh, nope.
Sure Uh I mean, I just don'tsee anything else that breaks up
what I predicted.
I personally, I think I'm goingto go four for four, like the
Wendy's meal.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Okay, sure, okay, we'll see.
Alright.
So there's nothing else left.
Alright, I'm Ben.
I'm Bash For the episode of.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Tag Team.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Talk.
welcome to the ben and bash podcast tag team talk
I'm ben, I'm bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the ben
and bash podcast tag team talkall right for another one.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
today we are going to do our predictions for the
elimination chamber match, soyou know how that goes the
mission chamber going throughthe rundown, all the matches,
what's going on?
What do we think is going tohappen?
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, for the first match on the card, it's Tiffany
Stratton and Trish Stratusagainst Nia Jax and Candice
LeRae.
So for this one I expected.
When Trish Stratus was in thearena, I thought it was going to
be Tiffany Stratton versusTrish Stratus.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I thought the same thing too.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Because that would be like the best women's wrestler
to go against before CharlotteFlair.
Yeah, but I guess they'reteaming up to go against Nia Jax
and Tiffany, not TiffanyStratton, nia Jax and Candice
LeRae.
So for this one I think it'spretty clear cut.
I don't think Tiffany Strattonis losing right before
WrestleMania, especially withthe challenger the likes of
Charlotte Flair.
(01:17):
So I have Tiffany.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Stratton and Trish Stratus walking out with the win
.
Yeah, I thought Tiffany wasgoing to wrestle Trish as well
in this one, but you'reforgetting.
Charlotte said she's going tobe there too.
So who's to say thatCharlotte's not interfering in
the match and calls TiffanyStratton to win?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Why would she do that ?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Think mind games.
You know who daughter she is.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, you know who her dad is right.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You know what his nickname was?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
right, dirtiest player in the game but isn't her
whole.
Thing not to be like her dadshe's getting booed right now.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So why would she not be like him right now?
She's getting booed right now.
She didn't have to be when shewas getting cheered, but now
she's getting booed.
She may resort to do what hewas doing by being dirtiest
woman in the game.
Now, dirtiest player in thegame, I mean, why not?
That's mind games.
You cause Tiffany Stratton towin, or if she gets pinned, or
(02:11):
if Trish Stratus gets pinned,they lose.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I just don't see Tiffany Stratton kicking the pin
, but it's a tag team match.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You can take a pin and still keep your belt, though
See, there's no.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, but a pin is kind of like bad going into
Rouse for me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Exactly, that's the point.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why, if Charlotte doesinterfere, it would be a mind
game to get in, to get that'sthe whole point to get in their
head.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You see what I'm saying, tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So you have Nia Jax and Candice LeRae.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Hold on, I don't know , I'm just trying to run through
it.
So like you get into mindTiffany Stratton because she's
young, you got to think TiffanyStratton is young.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Charlotte Flair is what 13-time world champion?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, 14,.
I think 14.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So you see what I'm saying.
So you got to long time.
She's been around, since shewas a kid, grew up around it,
being her dad I mean olderbrother wrestled Both her
brothers wrestled, actually, soit's like she's been around her
entire life.
So she knows wrestling.
Tiffany Stratton just startedwrestling when she came to WB.
(03:16):
She was a gymnast or whateverit was yeah.
So you say, you picked.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I picked Tiffany Stratton they're in Toronto,
though.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's the problem.
They're in Toronto and I don't.
Are they gonna?
Are they gonna let?
Is Trish Stratton gonna lose inToronto, in her home country?
I don't think so her hometownactually it is oh no, she's
winning, she's guaranteed, she'sfrom Toronto, guaranteed it is
oh no, she's winning, she'sguaranteed guaranteed.
(03:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna go ahead.
I'm gonna go ahead and pickTiffany Stratton and Trish
Stratus, but Charlotte Ferrywill be out there, though she
will try to interfere in thematch, but it's not gonna work.
But, yeah, I'm gonna pickTiffany Stratton and Trish
Stratus to win for the nextmatch on the card.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
it's the Women's Elimination Chamber match, which
consists of Liv Morgan, biancaBelair, alexa Bliss, bailey
Naomi and Roxanne Perez, andthose have some really good
people in it, and this has, um,some really good people in it.
(04:30):
But, like I I thought I wasgonna like like clear cut, alexa
bliss, but I'm not sure nowbecause, like I actually thought
about it for a second and Ihave no idea, like who would
actually win this, so I'm gonnahave you go first so I can just
like build up my answer becauseI genuinely don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, I don't know either.
This is a hard one becausethere's no clear-cut winner at
all.
I mean, roxanne looks strong.
She looks the strongest out ofanybody right now.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, but I don't think she would win and go
against.
Remind you, she's going againstRhea Ripley.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That's what I'm saying, but she looks the
strongest, though I'm not sayingshe's going to win, but going
into it.
She's the frontrunner, goinginto it.
I mean because she— I mean,there's also Alexa Bliss, bianca
, yeah but look who has the lastwin against anybody else in
that match Roxanne Perez.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
She beat Bayley.
There was Liv Morgan, though.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, but Roxanne Perez beat Bayley, a multi-time
world champion and tag teamchampion yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I guess impressed beat Bailey, a multi-time world
champion and tag team champion,world Rumble winner Money in the
Bank.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Winner.
So I mean, you see what I'msaying.
Roxanne beat her.
She's going into the match withthe most momentum.
As far as that goes, I mean,yeah, Liv Morgan is going into
it too, but she's missing hertag team partner.
You gotta think Liv Morgan, butshe's going into a two, but
she's missing her tag teampartner.
So she's going, you got tothink Liv Morgan, Liv Morgan,
but she's going to a match withBianca and Naomi.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, which accused her?
That would Okay, exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Listen, I don't like Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez.
That's a two on one yeah.
So what happens when Bianca andNaomi are both in there with
Liv?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And Raquel's not there to help her out this time.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Mm-hmm, that was the most fake like video ever Like,
just because you were walking.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's the point.
They were walking after thefact.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
They were the only people walking after the fact.
That's why they got blamed forit.
Still, though, because they arehealed, they They've done it.
I think they did it before.
Yeah, they did it to RheaRipley on NXT Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Why was Rhea Ripley there?
She knows how the NXT parkinglot is.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, she was there.
She was at NXT doing somethingelse.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So that's why they blame it on them, because they
had done it before.
Yeah, they did it to RheaRipley a few months before that
and put her out for a few monthswith the broken eye socket or
whatever it was.
So if they can do it to her,why can't they do it to Jade?
I don't think they did either,but I mean it's not impossible
(06:57):
for them to do it.
It's not too far off, Exactlybecause they've done it before
and they were walking away fromthe action.
They were walking away from whatwas happening after the fact.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So I mean looking at it, I mean obviously, obviously
Bianca or Naomi did it.
I think Bianca did it.
To be honest with you, I thinkBianca did it, and then,
especially with Naomi, justtaking the pin and losing the
belts.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, Naomi took the pin and she lost the belts.
I think Bianca did it.
That's what I'm going to gowith Bianca.
She's the one who attacked Jade.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Wait, you said Bianca would win the match.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
No, I'm saying Bianca's the one who attacked
Jade.
All right, yeah, that's what Ithink I'm going future, but for
this match, whoever wins thiswrestles.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Rhea Ripley.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Rhea Ripley.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Now I'm going to break down each person.
So first Liv Morgan.
I potentially see her winningif Io Sky also is in that match.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And Bianca.
That's a good match, butthere's a different road, a
different path that she needs togo on.
For WrestleMania and AlexaBliss, I could confidently say
that she's going to win, but Idon't know.
And then Bayley, naomi andRoxanne.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, I got my pick.
I'm thinking about WrestleMania.
Wrestlemania is the next.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That's the next event , right?
Yeah, there's nothing else inbetween here, between the
Elimination Chamber andWrestleMania, right?
No, there used to be Fastlane,but they moved that to like I
don't know when.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
This is what I'm saying.
There's nothing else.
After Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Before WrestleMania no, I don't think so no.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Okay, I'm got to think the Bills to WrestleMania.
You got to have WrestleManiamatches, right?
Okay, Liv Morgan is tag teamchampion.
The tag team champ's got todefend the Bills at WrestleMania
.
Why else would she have?
You got two nights.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Defend the Bills at WrestleMania.
All the Bills should bedefending WrestleMania period.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh yeah, all the Bills Most definitely Okay then.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So Liv Morgan can't win this match if she's a tag
team champion.
I wouldn't say can't.
Well, that'd be two matches inone or two nights, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
She could be second night and then that match.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I know she could, but realistically Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
All right, bayley, her and Roxanne are going to.
It's like they're going to feudwith each other.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
it seems like I think Roxanne's going to eliminate
Bayley, or the other way around.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, I think they're going to feud with each other
at WrestleMania, because that'sthe future versus the present.
Slash past.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Because there's a picture of Roxanne, when she was
a kid, taking a picture withBayley.
Oh yeah, that sounds like heridol growing up, so I think
they're going to have theirWrestleMania moment with each
other.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Bianca and Naomi.
They're going to be stuck inthe Jade feud, mm-hmm, so it
only leaves one person.
Alexa Bliss.
Yeah, and then you can bring inthe Y6 with that as well.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean, I don't think that I feel like the Y6 needs
Alexa Bliss, but now Alexa Blissdoesn't need the Y6 nope, but
if you watch the Smackdown, yeah, they show the Y6 after she did
the thing after she did.
The does nobody see that likeever that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They just do, they just do the Y6 thing.
So that's the.
I think Alexa Bliss is gonnawin this match just by just
Elimination.
That's not who I want to win.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Who did you want to win, bianca?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
or Bayley, and a third is Rakten.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But Bianca or Bayley, I think, would be the better
match for Rhea Ripley.
Bianca for sure would be thebetter match for Rhea Ripley as
far as power for power, skillfor skill, just a better matchup
all the way around.
Bayley, because she's a veteran, she can.
She can wrestle against anybodypretty much.
Yeah, she's like, she's likeNatalia, she can probably match
(10:51):
against anybody.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, bayley can.
She's like Natalia, she canpretty much.
So that's what I think.
I mean.
I'm just going to pick AlexaBliss Just by process of
elimination.
Like I said, liz is going to bestuck in a tag team Tag, not
stuck, but she's going to bedefending her tag team belt or
whatever adjustment they gotgoing on.
Naomi Bianca's going to begoing on.
(11:14):
Whoever's going to be feudingOne of them's going to be
feuding with Jade, not sureabout the other one.
Maybe in a three-way Roxanne isgonna be wrestling Bayley at
WrestleMania at least AlexaBliss.
That's my.
(11:34):
That's my prediction, justbased on elimination but um, so
yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So you said Alexa, bliss right yeah, but it's for
positive elimination so myoriginal pick was alexa bliss,
but then I just don't know.
But but from what you said,yeah, alexa bliss, and like
she's on a build-up coming backbut just came back too, yeah you
know this might be a mistake,but I'm gonna say live morgan
(12:10):
live morgan.
Okay, any reason just um, Ithink that she's gonna win the
eos guy, like she's gonnainterfere with eos guy's match
or something like that.
There there's just going to bea triple threat at WrestleMania
Liv Morgan, io Sky and RheaRipley.
That's what I think is going tohappen.
That's what I hope happens.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Okay, gotcha All right.
Anything else on that match?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Nope.
All right, wait, do you thinkJade comes back During this
match?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Nope, all right, wait , do you think?
Jade comes back During thismatch.
Yep, she has to come backeventually.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, she can't come back the week before
WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
No, if it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
If Jade doesn't come backbefore WrestleMania, I feel like
Bianca's going to win this IfJade doesn't come back before
WrestleMania.
But yeah, I'm going to stickwith Liv Morgan.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I think she may come out tonight and interfere in a
match.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, but who would she interfere, liv Morgan or
Bianca?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Whoever attacked her, she's going to come out and go
for it.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think she's going to go for Liv Morgan no no, no,
I think it's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I don't know if it's going to happen tonight in the
chamber, or Raw, or whatever.
But I think what's going tohappen is they're going to be in
a ring Liv Morgan, rhea, bianca, naomi whoever Jay comes out,
she looks at Rhea Rip, not RheaRip, but she looks at Liv Morgan
and Raquel and then she punchesNaomi or Bianca whoever
(13:56):
attacked her.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You know what I'm saying.
And then the crowd's likewhat's she doing that for?
And the announcer's like oh my,why'd she hit her for?
You know all that?
Then find out that's whoattacked her.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So, then, they find mysterious security footage of
her attacking her, of whoeverattacked her attacking her.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, they do that a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, then they're going to actually find the
security footage then.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, like they only find the security footage after
they know who attacked him.
Yeah, they only find thesecurity After they know who
attacked him.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
But that's what you're gonna say For that and.
And the next match In the cardis Sami Zayn Versus Kevin Owens
In an un-sectioned match.
So this is their home country,so yeah.
What an unsanctioned match.
So um, this is their homecountry, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Um what no?
No unsanctioned matches.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
It's basically extreme rules.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, there's no, there are no rules.
It's just just a match.
It's literally just.
Since Sami Zayn is injured, wwecan't sanction the match.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So it's just an extreme rules match it's a fancy
extreme rules match.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
No, it's not an extreme rules match.
It's basically a way of sayingthat WWE's not liable for what
happens in the match.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So if they get hurt?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
So it's a fancy extreme rules match.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, because that's a sanctioned match.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
What does sanctioned mean?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That means it's approved by WWE.
They approved it.
If they get hurt, wwe takesliability for it.
They help them out with allthat kind of stuff.
Unsanctioned means WWE.
We're not approving this match.
We're going to let y'allwrestle, but don't come to us if
something happens to any one ofy'all so there's no rules
though there's no rules in thematch and WWE's not approving it
(15:45):
.
Oh, it's not an approved WWEmatch.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So why would they let them wrestle?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Because they want to wrestle.
That's why it's unsanctioned,because Sami Zayn is not cleared
to wrestle.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
But he needs to wrestle and he wants to wrestle,
so they're making itunsanctioned that way, because
he's not cleared by a doctor.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So if he gets re-injured he can't come back
and sue or whatever.
You know how that goes.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
He can't come back and blame it on me for getting
him hurt, for putting him inthat match, because he's injured
.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It was like the Seth Rollins had an unsanctioned
match.
Was it Brock Lesnar atWrestleMania a few years ago
with his knee?
I?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Was it Brock Lesnar at?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
WrestleMania a few years ago with his knee, I don't
know.
I was there too.
I want to say it was BrockLesnar, it was an unsanctioned
match.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I remember that match .
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It was an unsanctioned match that was at.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
WrestleMania right.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, oh, it was an unsanctioned match.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But he had the title right, or Brock had the title.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think Brock had the title.
Seth Rollins had re-injured hisknee when he had surgery on and
kept him out for a while and hewas an unsanctioned match
because he wasn't clear, becausehis knee was still messed up,
but he was unsanctioned.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Didn't he win that, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I can't remember, but I remember Seth Rollins was an
unsanctioned match in WWE before.
But, yeah, it's basically a norules match.
It's just referee's just thereto count the pinfall or the
submission, that's it, and WB'snot held liable for what happens
.
So that's just.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
They're there to fight so an extreme rules match,
but they're not held liable forit pretty much.
Okay, yeah, pretty much so whodo you got winning um?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I mean, this match has been going on for decades
now.
I remember them wrestling inthe Ring of Honor when I was
younger, so I mean, but thisright here is different though.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh yeah, way different, like he tried to end
his career.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I mean, they showed up at each other's houses.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I mean they know each other.
They've been knowing each otherfor decades, so obviously they
know each other's parents.
They know each other's parents,they know each other's siblings
, they know each other's kids.
They hung out with each other'skids.
I mean, their kids know them.
I mean so this is a littledifferent though showing up at
each other's house like thatSammy went to Kevin Owens' house
where his mom was there.
(18:01):
I mean, you know, had that beenKevin Owens showing up at Sammy
Zane's house and Sammy's mom wasthere that would be a lot
different would.
Would Sammy?
Would Kevin Owens just beentalking to her or would he
attack her cause?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
you can't put anything past Kevin Owens yeah
so but like, um, one thing, likeit was so smooth how Kevin
Owens was just talking and thenthey panned the camera to
Sammy's house.
But for me, I think Kevin Owens, I don't know if Randy's coming
(18:38):
, that's the thing.
I think if Randy comes, sammy'swinning.
If he doesn't come right now orcomes on a Raw or SmackDown, I
think Kevin Owens is winning.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
But I'm going to say Kevin Owens is winning this
match.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I hope they wrestle atWrestleMania again too.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, because I— I'd rather see another match.
Yeah, I would rather see RandyOrton.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, I can see Kevin .
I can watch Kevin Owens andSami Zayn wrestle all the time.
Yeah, I can watch Kevin Owensand Sami Zayn wrestle all the
time.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Because I would rather see this match than Randy
Orton versus Kevin Owens.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, I can watch Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens
wrestle all the time.
Mm-hmm, I'm not tired of it yet.
Yeah, and they don't wrestleall the time either.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
That's one of the things that probably won't get
boring for a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Because they don't wrestle all the time.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, they space it out.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
If they wrestled all the time, yeah, we'd get boring
quick.
But when they do wrestle eachother, it's personal, because
they've been knowing each othersince they were teenagers.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Like that's how they knew each other from wrestling,
you know.
They got a love for wrestlingtogether, you know Mm-hmm.
And so they grew up watchingwrestling together, then
watching wrestling together.
Then they both startedwrestling around the same time
together, and they both made itto be around the same time.
Sami Zayn came first, thoughjust by Kevin Owens, probably
jealous of him.
Sami Zayn got hired, but that'dbe first, and then Kevin Owens
(19:56):
came later yeah so, but thenKevin Owens beat Sami Zayn for
NXT championship, and then KevinOwens went to the main roster
before Sami Zayn did, so it'sback and forth their whole
career.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I was watching an old video.
It was the Motor City MachineGuns versus Kevin Steen and El
Generico.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well, that's not the same person as Sami Zayn.
Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Hey, El Generico is still.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
He looks kind of like Sami Zayn, but he's not really
Sammy Zane, though, is he?
Yeah, he is.
No, he's not.
He's less a different person.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
How is El Generico a different person, he's got a
mask on.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You don't know who that is under that mask, just
saying Sure, okay, you don'tknow who that is under that mask
.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
He's like a random person with teamwork with Kevin
Owens.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't know who he's under that mask.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I've seen, sami Zayn, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Have you seen El Generico take his mask off and
see Sami Zayn under the mask?
The answer is no.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I've seen Sami Zayn, though.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yes, I've seen Sami Zayn too.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You said have you ever seen El Generico take off
his mask?
I see El Generico take off hismask every single week, because
it's just Sami Zayn.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
You're not seeing him take his mask off, though.
I'm just saying, every time Isee Eric DeNiro, he has his mask
on.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Have you ever seen Rey Mysterio without his mask on
?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yes, you have.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
No, no, I've also seen Rey Mysterio take his mask
off.
That's the difference ReyMysterio took his mask off and
showed his face.
Eric DeNiro has never taken hismask off.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Are you sure about that?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, I don't know who he is under the mask, so you
can say he's Sami Zayn.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So if I ask Sami Zayn if he's El Generico, he won't
say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
He's going to say no.
He's going to say he's a goodwrestler, but no, he's not El.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Generico, he's Sami Zayn, you think Just saying Go
ahead Well yeah, I think KevinOwens is going to win.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, seministas win though.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Does he?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
really yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Does he really though ?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
He does.
I mean he's been losing a lotrecently.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Listen who he's been losing to.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's what I'm saying, though, drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, cm Punk, exactly Seth.
No, yeah, seth Rollins, butlike listen.
And then Kevin Owens.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
He has not won a match all year.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
No, no, yeah, he won.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
When did he win a match?
Didn?
No, yeah, he went.
When did?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
he win a match, didn't he like Roll up Drew
McIntyre that one time?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Was that with Jey Uso ?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, but also Someone else.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Oh, that was Jimmy Uso I think both of them did it.
Did Sammy do it too.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know.
I know he got beat by DrewMcIntyre, but I don't know if he
rolled him up any.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I can't remember either, but yeah, but yeah, I
mean Sammy needs to win, though,so you going?
Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yep, I'm going.
Kevin Owens.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm going with Sammy Just cause you going.
Kevin Owens, you know I kindawant Kevin to win, but I thought
you said Sammy needs to win.
He does Need to win.
But I kinda want Kevin Owens towin.
But Sammy needs to win.
I'm going with Sammy, justcause you going, kevin.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
So yeah, for the next match on the card is john cena
versus cm punk versus joemcintyre versus logan paul
versus damian priest versus sethrollins in the men's
elimination chamber match and um, everybody on smackdown.
If you watch smackdown alreadyeverybody came out and I thought
(23:27):
john cena was gonna come come,except John Cena.
I thought Logan Paul was goingto come out, then John Cena, but
then when I heard John Cena'smusic, I just assumed that it
was going to be John Cena,everybody did.
Yeah, and then Logan Paul comesout.
That was a good heel thing todo.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That was just as good as Stone Cold did, yeah, and
somebody else did it too.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The Miz.
He does that a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
The Miz did it With the Rock LA.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Knight and someone else.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
John Cena.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, with John Cena, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
He did it as John Cena.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But Logan Paul didn't wear the costume.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It was actually him, and Maryse did it, as John Cena
and Nikki.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Bell.
Oh, John Cena and Nikki Bell.
Oh, yeah, I remember them.
Well, no, I don't remember it.
Oh yeah, they did both of them.
Yeah, because they had like amatch at WrestleMania or
something.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, it was like a mixed tag team match.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But for this one, I think it's easy it's either CM
Punk or John Cena.
That's the only way I see itand the only way, absolutely
only way I see it.
Hmm, hmm, think about it.
Seth Rollins, he's not winning.
Damien Priest he's not winning,he's booked well, but he's not
winning.
Logan Paul, like, come on, man,logan Paul, drew McIntyre, he's
(24:37):
been on a downward spiral ofgetting rolled up to the
bloodline CM Punk, a crediblechallenger.
John Cena, the man who is goingto win.
You know, there's other peopleJohn Cena, john Cena and John
Cena.
That's the only answer.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Maybe CM Punk.
I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This Seth Rollins is not going to win.
Nope, cm Punk is not going towin.
Nope, cm Punk is not going towin why?
One word Former world champion.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Roman, how is that one word that was like Roman
Sure, so you think he's going tointerfere.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Rory Rumble.
Do we not remember having RoryRumble?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah, who are the?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Roman Reigns.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But then also Seth Rollins.
That's what I'm saying SethRollins.
I think it's going to be atriple threat at Mania.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Seth Rollins and CM Punk.
I just said it.
Both of those guys are notwinning because of one man.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Roman.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yep.
What happened to Rory Rumble,who made Roman Reigns?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
A combination of Seth Rollins and CM Punk.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Okay, what happened when they got out the ring?
Seth Rollins stomped him,stomped him with both feet.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Both feet.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't see how you do that and not just murder the
person.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Exactly, that was personal.
Both feet, both feet.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Kicked him with both feet, then him and CM Punk got
into it, and then he stepped himagain stopped him again.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
All the steps.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You think roman's gonna let that slide like it was
.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It was it was so smooth like he like double stops
, roman reigns and then justwent straight into uh fighting
sam.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You think roman reign going to let that slide.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Uh no.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Exactly.
So you're forgetting one thingtoo.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
What.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
One more important thing that ain't talked about in
a while yet.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
What.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
What's the favor?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Oh yeah, they haven't .
Speaker 2 (26:38):
What's the favor that Paul Heyman owes CM Punk?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
But wouldn't the favor be good for CM Punk?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yes, a match against Roman Reigns.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Why would CM Punk waste his favor on Roman Reigns?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Because Roman Reigns is going to cost him the Miz
Chamber match.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Why would he need a favor from Paul Heyman to
wrestle Roman Reigns?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Because Roman Reigns is not going to wrestle him.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So you think Paul Heyman is going to make Roman
Reigns wrestle him?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's the favor.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
yes, I think the favor is going to be better than
that.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, that's the WrestleMania.
That's the favor To wrestleRoman Reigns at WrestleMania,
Because Roman Reigns is above.
He's going to think he's aboveCM Punk.
I think he's going to thinkhe's Roman Reigns.
He's been the main event atWrestleMania for the past.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Three.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
WrestleMania straight .
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Oh yeah, five, because I think he was 20.
Oh no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
This past WrestleMania.
He was both nights.
He was both nights main eventBefore that against Cody Rhodes
Before that Against Brock Lesnar.
Before that against.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Oh Edge and.
Yeah that was Edge and DanielBryan that year.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
The Edge and Daniel Bryan that year.
No, that was Edge and DanielBryan, and then Brock the.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Edge and Daniel Bryan that year.
Yeah, or they brought Edge andDaniel.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Bryan again.
No, that was Edge and DanielBryan, and they brought Edge and
Daniel Bryan before that, rightI think so, yeah, yeah.
So it's like four or five yearsstraight he's been wrestling in
the main event, Yep.
So I mean, you think he's goingto want to wrestle CM Punk in a
match?
I guess not Him and SethRollins.
He don't want to kill SethRollins Because Seth Rollins
(28:09):
stumped him in the face.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know, I think maybe what happened?
It's going to be like RomanReigns and Seth Rollins
guaranteed for WrestleMania, andthen CM Punk's going to catch
him.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
He's going to ask for the favor and then get inserted
into that match.
It's a triple threat match.
That's what I'm saying.
The favor.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And there's a triple threat match.
That's what I'm saying, thefavor, and you know what would
be better though I don't knowbetter, but it would just be
more stakes to the match If thewinner goes on to night two and
Rosso's John Cena and CodyRhodes in the triple threat, or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
No, that's going to be night two right there.
That match is going to be anight two match.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Night two.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Or night, one main event.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I don't think it's your main event at all.
What's going?
What's going?
Main event though, um thewomen's?
Oh, jay jay.
Jay jay was on gunther and thenjohn cena is gonna main event
um the night two with cody rose.
Wait, I know no, just cause youwin.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Roy rumble don't mean your main event yeah, but
shinsuke didn't main eventwrestlemania he didn't, did he
not, did he rest?
He won.
I don't remember evenwrestlemania, I don't remember
no, I think he wait.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, that was the.
You were roman in the rock.
No, not roman in the rock.
Roman and brock, wasn't it?
I think so dang yeah, that wasat that the the indian apple,
not indiana new orleans.
Show right I think.
That terrible main event.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, that was that.
So yeah, Shinsuke won it.
He didn't main event.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, he should have main evented though.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But I'm saying you win a Royal Rumble, you're
supposed to be guaranteed a mainevent.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Well guaranteed a match.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
No, no, no, that's not what it says.
The Royal Rumble if it's theRoyal Rumble, it says you are
the winner of the Royal Rumbleis guaranteed to main event
WrestleMania.
That's what it says.
If you're not going to do itanymore, just say you're
guaranteed a top match atWrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's what they should say.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Don't say main event, because you're not the main
event if you're not main event.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
How I feel about it if Jey Uso and Gunther is not
going to be spectacular.
It shouldn't be main event.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No so what's going to happen is Gunter and Jay is
going to be night one.
Night two is going to be Codyversus whoever wins in the
mission chamber.
That's going to be night two,because you got two nights now.
Yeah, so you don't have to doit.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I like the two night act best so you don't have to be
up for like five hours watchingWrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So night one is going to be Jay and Gunter.
Main event Night 2 is Codyversus whoever happens, and we
got it and we'll talk about itin a second.
But, um, so yeah, I think JohnCena's gonna win, just because
it's well, okay, okay, here here.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Here at what.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Hear me out.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I think I know what you're about to say.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I don't want to say this, I don't want to put this
out here.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I think you're gonna jinx me.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I don't want to put this out here.
Okay, mm-hmm, sif and CM Punk.
I'm going to do the same thingI did with the women's match Yep
, sif and CM Punk.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
They're going to be booked up with Roman.
Roman is not going to let thatslide.
What happened?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
to Rory Rumble.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yep Right, okay, cool , it seems wrestle.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, don't do it, don't do it.
Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I don't want to, I'm just going through the match.
It seems like Drew and Damianare going to wrestle.
Right, they're going to wrestle.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Don't do it.
I know what you're about to do.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
They're going to wrestle at Mania.
It seems like they were goingat each other pretty hard on
SmackDown.
That leaves two people.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I think they're going to be the final two if Logan
Paul beats John Cena no, no, I'mjust saying just hear me out,
though.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Just hear me out, though.
Think about what he did onSmackdown oh yeah he came out to
John Cena music the crowd.
Just hear me out, though.
Just hear me out, though.
Think about what he did on.
Smackdown oh yeah, he came outto John Cena music.
The crowd was from cheering himto booing him.
Right yeah, if he beats JohnCena, he is going to have.
Donovan Stereo type of heat.
(32:05):
Yeah, until.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
WrestleMania Until.
No, he's going to have it, no,but I'm saying Until, like three
Master WrestleMania until.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
WrestleMania.
He will get booed.
No, he's gonna have it.
Every time he comes out, though, he will get booed out the
arena, like the New Day was, andlike Dominic Mysterio but one
thing.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I hope he doesn't, but like that would be like the
biggest swerve in the history oflike stuff, you know one thing
I would say if John Cena won theRoyal Rumble and picked Cody
Rose, I think if Gunther was theperson who you're going to face
(32:39):
, if he won this, I feel likeLogan Paul and Damian Priest
would have a way higher percentchance.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
If he was going against no Gunther.
Yeah, but you're not goingagainst Cody.
Oh yeah, you're going against.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Cody.
I just don't see Logan Paulwrestling Cody Rose, especially
at Mania.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That's what I'm saying, so I think it's like I
said I don't want it to be, butit's going to be between John
Cena and Logan Paul.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
And another thing that people have said maybe John
Cena and Logan Paul wrestle atWrestleMania and there's also
the same thing at CM Punk.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
But then who's going to wrestle against Cody Rhodes?
Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Or Seth Rollins.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Seth Rollins is going to be second with Roman Reigns.
He's going to be second withRoman.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Reigns.
What about Drew McIntyre?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
He's going to be second with Damian Priest for
more likely.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't know Dang Well, there's just a lot of
things that can happen.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I'm going to hope Logan Paul does not win and I'm
going to go with John Cena.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I think John Cena and Logan Paul are going to be the
final two and John Cena wins.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, that's what I'm going to think, that's what I'm
going to go to.
Hopefully the oppositedirection Logan wins and beat
John Cena, but I think John.
Cena's going to win.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Mm-hmm.
And next, the only non-matchedthing that's going to happen
tonight Will Cody Rose sell hissoul to the Rock?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
No, what you don't think so, absolutely not.
I don't know because.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Because he has all this fancy stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, we got to remember too.
You weren't born yet, but youwere in the Attitude Era.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Oh, not John Cena.
The Rock was Vince McMahon'sCorp.
That's what I'm talking about.
I was talking about the otherone that happened around that
same time too Stone Cold versus,not versus.
He was Corp of Champion.
Well, not, not versus, he wasKerber champion.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
He joined Vince McMahon.
Nobody expected that one.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
They were like rivals for a long time.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
They were rivals.
And Stone Cold shook his handat WrestleMania and joined
forces with Vince McMahon.
Nobody expected that, and ifStone Cold can do that, anybody
can do it Literally.
The Rock did it and became thecorporate champion, but that's
(34:58):
not hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, that's really not.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
He was already going to Hollywood.
Anyways, that's what it seemslike they're doing.
It's like the Rock is trying tobe the corporate guy.
He is the corporate guy.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Now he's the corporate guy, he's the
corporate champion.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, he's the corporate guy.
Now he's trying to make Codyhis guy.
But what happens if the Rockhas a backup plan?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Right, you know what would be crazy If CM Punk or
Seth Rollins is his plan B?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
No, you're thinking too.
No, that's too easy.
What about?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Why is that too easy?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
What if?
What if Logan or John?
What about John Cena?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
No like.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
What about John Cena, for instance?
So think about the, think aboutit for a second, think about
this for a second.
This is John Cena's last leg.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Mm-hmm Right, yep.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
This is last WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Say he loses the Mexican Chamber.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Say Drew wins or somebody else wins.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Why would John Cena not go to the Rock, sell his
soul to the Rock, have the Rockpull strings, insert him into
that match at WrestleMania, makea triple threat match.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But why would he join the person who's led his demise
so many times, john Cena?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, Because this is his last match.
This is his last chance to wina championship.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
You don't know that he has an entire year left.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
If he loses again?
He lost the Royal Rumble If heloses the Elimination Chamber,
where else does he go?
Money in the bank?
He's not wrestling next year,so he can't keep the belt for a
whole year.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
So even if he does win Money in the Bank, he has to
cash in before the end of theyear yeah.
So, even if he is in the Moneyin the Bank match.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
He's going to lose it in like six months.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Exactly so.
If he's going to win the belt,it has to be WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah.
And he has to go on theWrestleMania run and he's going
to pull a Ric Flair, which Idon't think he is, because if he
, okay, let's say he wins theMoney in the Bank match Cool, he
cashes in sometime later thisyear he's going to retire with
the belt.
Oh, he can't retire with thebelt.
That's what I'm saying I thinkit's either he's going to lose
his last match or he just can'tget his title.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So he has to win at WrestleMania or somewhere close
to WrestleMania, or somewhereclose to WrestleMania, hold a
belt for a little bit of timeand then lose it somewhere
toward the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
If he's going to go out like that, or he could go
out retired and just relinquishthe belt on this last, the last
day, the last show of the year,yeah, as champion, go out as
champion, mm-hmm, and neveractually lose his belt.
You know, and I, if he everwanted to come back, he can
always say I never lost my belt,I'm on a match.
If he ever wanted that, onemore match like.
(37:51):
The Rock does.
But I don't know about this theRock and Cody Rhodes thing.
I mean, everybody wants to seeHomelander Rhodes.
Everybody wants to see thatHomelander Cody Rhodes thing.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
But will Corporate Cody Rhodes be?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Homelander though.
Yes, he already showed it.
He's been showing it alreadysince the Brock Lesnar match,
since the Brock Lesnar matchwhen he busted his head with the
steel with the steps.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Is that another disqualification?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
That's what I'm saying.
He did that during the matchand then he did it against Brock
Lesnar.
He hit him with steel steps.
Nobody said anything about it.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
He did that with AJ Styles after the match then he
hit AJ Styles.
After the match, aj Styles gaveup and he still hit him yeah
that's a heel right but like soJohn Cena did that but, and he
never became.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, but John Cena was heel early in his career,
though oh yeah, would you reallycall that a heel character?
Speaker 1 (38:42):
yeah, that that a heel character, wasn't that just
like a kind of comedy?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
no, that was a heel character.
That was a heel character buthe was likable though yeah, but
it was, he was a heel though.
That was a heel characterthough too.
Um, yeah, and then then youknow, then cody rose with the
whole kevin ornish thing.
Yeah, try to him.
I mean, what good guy you knowtrying to kill another man in
(39:07):
the match.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
You know, there's this guy called Cactus Jack, but
I don't know Cactus Jack wasn'ta babyface or a heel, he was
just a guy.
How do you know if he wasn't ababyface or a heel?
Everybody cheered him.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
He was neutral.
Everybody cheered him, so he'sa babyface.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, but he was neutral, though.
He didn't care if anybody likedhim or not.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
He's neutral.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
But he didn't go out there to get cheered or booed.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, he just went out there to Every match he was
in the babyface category Everysingle match.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, but what I'm saying is he went out there just
to beat up people.
He didn't go out there to getcheered or booed.
He went out there to just beatup people in a match.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, and that was it .
That was all he did.
He was also this guy calledKevin Owens, like before, he was
a heel.
Yeah, but Kevin Owens is always, he jumped off like three
stages to just to go through atable, through Roman Reigns,
yeah, and it missed.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
But that made him a babyface because he was going
against armor rings.
Sometimes who you go againstmakes you a de facto.
You know, baby face regardless.
You know sometimes you be both.
You can't have two baby facesor two heels rest each other a
lot of times, so one of them hasto be the baby face, one has to
be heel yeah so that's just howit works sometimes but yeah,
(40:25):
well, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
He wasn't like booked to be either one Cause, like
the last second Adam Pierce likejust canceled his thing and
then yeah.
Kevin Owens was the answer.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, I don't know man, I want to see Cody.
I want to see Cody do it andturn heel.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, I feel like everybody does.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
But I want to see both.
I want to see Cody Rhodes turnheel, but I also want to see
what happens when he tells theRock no yeah, and see what the
Rock has planned after that.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Like what is he going to do if he says no, that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I want to see both.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
I think the Rock is going to be like if he says no,
because he gives all this stuffjust basically for nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
That's what I'm saying.
I want to see both, but youcan't have both.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
You can't do both, because you can't say no,
actually yes.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, which one do?
I want to see more though.
I would Cody.
Well, okay, how about this?
You can get both.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Can you really?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
go, yeah, you can get .
You can get Cody saying no tothe Rock, the Rock's backup plan
, whatever that is yeah, and youcan get home under Rose after
he loses at WrestleMania.
I guess, Because of the Rock.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Because he said no to the Rock.
The Rock's going to cost himWrestleMania and loses his belt.
What if the Rock's going tocost him at WrestleMania and
loses his belt.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
What if the person who fights Cody Rose at
WrestleMania is the Rock'sCorbett Tramp?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
That's what I'm saying and that person beats
Cody Rose because of the Rock orif the Rock puts himself in the
match.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I mean, he is the Corbett Tramp.
He can do whatever he wants todo.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
He can do whatever he wants to do.
He's the boss.
He's Triple H's boss,technically yeah.
I guess, so he can do whateverhe wants to do.
Why?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
would Triple H put someone above himself.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
He didn't put himself above him.
Who did?
The people who owned the WWE?
Oh, that's weird.
They put the Rock up there.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I thought Triple H did that.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
No, no, no.
That's not how that works.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Does Triple H not have that type of power?
No, oh.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
No, he runs the WB.
Him and Nick Khan run the WB,and then the Rock is on the
board of TKO.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Isn't Nick Khan the person who runs AEW?
Speaker 2 (42:38):
No, that's Tony Khan.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Oh, Tony Khan.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Tony Khan.
Yeah, nick Khan is on.
It's on the.
It's got to be same last name,but no relation.
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, it would be crazy if it was really.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
it would be crazy, but it's no relation I know of
anyways, but anything elsethough.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Uh, nope.
Sure Uh I mean, I just don'tsee anything else that breaks up
what I predicted.
I personally, I think I'm goingto go four for four, like the
Wendy's meal.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Okay, sure, okay, we'll see.
Alright.
So there's nothing else left.
Alright, I'm Ben.
I'm Bash For the episode of.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Tag Team.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Talk.
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