August 15, 2025 • 27 mins
Ben and Bash dive into AAA's biggest event of the year with their Triplemania 32 predictions, analyzing matches that blend WWE and AAA talent in exciting international matchups.
• Los Garza defending the AAA World Tag Team Championship against Pagano and Psycho Clown
• El Masías versus El Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. for the AAA Latin American Championship
• The Bardahl Cup match featuring numerous wrestlers in a Royal Rumble-style elimination bout
• Flammer defending the AAA Reina de Reinas Championship against Faby Apache and WWE's Natalya
• The Judgment Day facing Mr. Iguana, Niño Hamburguesa, and Lola Vice in a mixed trios match
• Fatal Four-Way main event for the AAA Mega Championship featuring El Hijo del Vikingo, Dominik Mysterio, Dragon Lee, and El Grande Americano
• Discussion of WWE's growing partnership with AAA following World's Collide
• Speculation about potential surprise appearances, including Alberto El Patron
• Upcoming wrestling events including NXT Heatwave and WWE Clash at the Castle in Paris
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, here we are for another one.
This time we're going to bedoing Triple Mania 32.
Triple Mania 32.
So, yeah, let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
For the first match it's Los Garzas versus Pagano
and Psycho Clown for the AAAWorld Tag Team Championship.
So for this one I mean it isAAA.
So like I feel like it could goeither way.
(00:47):
I just find too, but I'llprobably say Los Garzas.
How long has that rating been?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
A couple months, a few months, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I would say Los Garzas.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Probably most of summer, I would think.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, Especially because WWE, too, they like to
have longer reigns too.
So Los Garza, Probably most ofthe summer, I would think yeah,
Especially because WWE too, theylike to have longer reigns too.
So I love Garza.
I would say I love Garza, yeah,I don't know I like Pagano and
Cycle Clown, though.
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I like them I like the old guys.
Yeah, it should be a good match, though Regardless Should be a
pretty good match.
I mean, usuallytriple-maintenant matches are
pretty good.
I mean, that's their biggestevent of the year, so that
should be a pretty good.
I don't know if it's going tobe the opener or not, but that
should be a good match foreverybody to put that in the
(01:37):
card.
But I'm going to go with Paganoand Cycle Clown on this one
though, just because I thinkthey you know those guards have
already seen.
I mean they've defended alittle bit, but you haven't seen
too much to defend that beltyet.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But Pagano- and Tycho Kahn at least Tycho Kahn's been
on.
What is it?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
SmackDown.
Yeah, he's on SmackDown.
Yeah, you know he's onSmackDown or whatever.
No, that was Tycho Kahn rightyeah, Tycho.
Kahn and Vince Lee Wong.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I'm going to go withPagano and Cyclone to win this
one.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But yeah, okay.
So for the next match on thecard is El Macias versus El Eo
del, dr Wagner Jr for the AAALatin American Championship,
triple A, triple A LatinAmerican Championship.
And for this one, I mean for meprobably, I'm going to go Dr
(02:31):
Wagner Jr, probably, or likeL-E-L Del Dr Wagner.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, we saw both of them when we watched it earlier.
Was it the last one or whatever?
The Triple A event?
Yeah, we saw both of themearlier.
So Dr Wagner was on World ofClown too.
Yeah, Was El Macias on there?
He came out at the beginningdidn't he?
I don't know I don't know ifhe's on there at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, he was on the.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Triple event.
We saw he came out earlier.
Uh-huh, he was the big guy thebig guy you saw?
Yeah, I'll tell you that was inLucha Underground, uh-huh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Both of them was on Lucha Underground, but Mm-hmm.
And then El Macias was uh, hewas in TNA as well.
Yeah, julius Macias, I thinkhis name was.
I'm sorry, I'm not that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But who are you picking, dr Wagner?
Yep, I'm going to go with ElMacias, just because I've been
watching him for a while anyway.
I mean, he's a little older, Imean he's got to be Shoot Part
of the same reason.
I see a punk problem aroundthat age, probably up there with
that, up there with the punkage.
(03:40):
He's been around for a while.
He's in TNA for a while stillpunk age.
He's been wrestling for a while.
He's in TNA for a while.
I'm not sure if he made WWE,but I know he's in TNA for a
while and he's a loser on theground too.
But yeah, I'm going to go withEl Mestiz to win this one and
retain his Latin Americanchampionship.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And that's what you're going to say, for that,
yeah, that's it for that one.
And for the next match on thecard is the Bardal Bardal Cup.
And what is this one cause?
I don't know about this one.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's basically their version of like a not really
it's like a Royal Rumble type ofthing yeah, that's what I was
thinking.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
that's what I was thinking, that's what it sounds
like.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So you know how I was saying before, like in order,
when you have an event like this, just make it, just put a
banner on you so you can getmore wrestlers in yeah.
Just diversify that.
Just get all the wrestlers inthere.
The wrestlers who don't have aregular match, a scheduled match
you can get them on the card.
Is it like, but I'm thinking onthis one, though in order to
(04:43):
get eliminated, you gotta getpinned.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, kind of like the one AEW had, kind of like
that one so like.
But there's the first one toget pinned though.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
This one right here to get eliminated.
You gotta get pinned, but theycome in like Rory Rumble do.
Uh-huh you know, one at a timeall right, so, but that's
basically what that is.
I'm not sure if the winner getsanything or they just.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, I think that's what I was gonna they might just
get a cup.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know if they get any, like how much is
anything?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I'm not sure I'm gonna get like some kind of cup.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You know, I'm not sure they get like a title match
or triple a.
You know mega champions oranything like that.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, maybe they'll say itbefore that match comes on.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Mm-hmm.
Well, I mean, I don't knowwho's going to be in there.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't either.
I don't know who's going to bein there either.
I'm not sure.
I mean, I'm sure there's goingto be some.
I'm sure, if they do it right,it's going to be some guys from
AAA in there and some guys fromWWE in there.
Mm thinking, maybe there's afew miscarriages in TNA, so
maybe a couple of them will popup.
But yeah, it should be a prettyentertaining match though.
(05:49):
You get to see a lot ofespecially people who don't
really follow AAA like that.
You get to see a lot of theirwrestlers in this match.
I would probably pick Mr Iguana, but he already has a match he
has a match, so yeah, but forthis match you'll probably see a
lot of wrestlers you're notfamiliar with, people you don't
know, and that way you can kindof you might end up liking them.
(06:10):
Yeah, you know, especially ifyou don't know who they are
before, It'll be like watching aRoyal Rumble for the first time
and not knowing who thewrestlers are.
You may like one of so similarto that, but you know, and the
next match on the card is Flamer.
Flamer.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Flamer okay, versus Fabi Pichi, apache, apache, all
right.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Versus Natalia for the AAA.
Rina de Reyes, reina de reyes,reina de reyes championship.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I think that's queen of the queens or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh, oh, reina the queen, something like that that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure one of those words is rain.
Yeah, I know, I think I knowthat.
But yeah, so for this one.
I mean, I'm not really familiarwith the people in this match,
except for Natalia.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm surprised they didn't have her in World Collide
, even if she was a femalechampion, because they had all
the other champions there, butmost all of them.
I'm surprised they didn't haveher pop up me personally, I
don't see Natalia winning thisbut she could, because Natalia
has won already before, so I'dbe surprised if she won.
(07:43):
But I'm going to have to finishup a part of mine.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Uh, so I'm going to say Flamer.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, the champion retainer, uh-huh, yeah.
So here's my thing.
Which which Natalia are wegoing to get?
Are we going to get the Nataliathat we see in independent
wrestling?
Have you been watching that atall?
A little I've been watchingwhen she does the Bloodsport
thing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's like the member of Underground.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So they have another.
I think it's GCW.
They do something similar wherethey have Bloodsport or
whatever it is.
They do it like every couple ofweeks.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Is she still on the show?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, she fights, like every event so far.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Does WWE own them?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
No, they let them wrestle in there.
Oh, they let them wrestle inthere.
They're not like they used tobe, where you can't wrestle
outside anymore.
They're not going to be on AEWTV, obviously, obviously, yeah,
but they'll end up doing someindependent wrestling scene.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like Omos is in that one.
Yeah, noah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Pro wrestling Noah over in Japan.
Yes, mm-hmm, but they probablywon't be in New Japan though.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So they will probably be in New Japan oh.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Why wouldn't they?
Because New.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Japan was the worst for AEW, and so whoever AEW
works with AEW doesn't reallywork well, because that way
there won't be no conflict ofinterest.
Yeah, but yeah, I want to seeif they bring Natalia, the one
we see on Money Night, raw andstuff, or they bring Nat again,
the alter ego, which is a little.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, it's probably just going to be Natalia, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's what I'm saying.
Maybe We'll see.
We'll see when she comes outwhat music they play.
She has a whole different musicfor that one too.
Oh dang yeah.
Completely different, a wholedifferent personality, yeah, a
whole different personality.
So I'm curious if they're goingto try to bring in DeVito.
That side of her that's more ofa heel than Babyface, I mean
(09:43):
she needs something she needssomething.
Yeah, I'll be surprised they dobring it in.
They gotta do it right, though.
If they do, they have to do itright, cause this is that other
character she's been playingother personalities is a good
personality yeah so they gottado it right for the fans to go
along with if people don't watchother companies.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I mean so like it would probably be like just
turning on Alpha Academy, right,or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Something like that.
Yeah, Probably attacking Tazawaand Maxine Dupree.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But like the thing about heel turns, especially
with like lower tag teams likeAlpha Academy, like if you like
don't do anything, then it'sjust a waste.
Like Ron Killman and ArnoldJohnson out of me, like if you
like don't do anything, thenit's just a waste.
Like like wrong killing, andI'm with john cena rather, yeah,
yeah I'm not sure what's goingon with that one.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, we'll.
We'll get to that when we getaround to it but yeah yeah, I
don't know what's going on withthat, but yeah, like you said,
it gotta be a good turn but, umyeah, so who are you?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
who'd you pick?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
oh, who's that one in there?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
baby, baby, oh, baby apache yeah, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm gonna pick her because I've seen her.
I've seen her for her matches.
She's pretty good wrestler too.
You'll probably, you'llprobably like her yeah like her
style anyways, but but yeah, I'mgoing to pick her Apache to win
, to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Mm-hmm, but yeah, that's all you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's all.
It should be good.
That should be a pretty goodmatch too.
All three of those women arepretty good wrestlers.
You bring in a veteran-likebattalion there.
You know two luch, yeah, thishas.
I mean, this car is a prettygood car.
I mean, and like I said, thatcut match maybe could be good
too, because you're gonna have alot, of, a lot of wrestlers in
there trying to show, because alot is gonna be the first time
(11:34):
they've been like on this thisday that the bees promoted it oh
, it's gonna be another these uhyoutube channels, not their
youtube channel that doesn'tmake this channel like it was,
like world's fly was.
Oh yeah, it's gonna be likeworld's fly.
World's fly was on.
Yeah, it's going to be likewhere Cloud was.
Remember where Cloud was onYouTube.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's going to be just like that, so it's going to be
on WWE millions of views.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
They should do like a channel together.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, they don't need to, because WWE is baller, so
they show on their channel,which has more views than Triple
A does.
And also WWE subscribers,that's what I'm saying, and so
he put them on there.
Any people who not subscribedto me are still gonna be
watching yeah and so a lot of, alot of wrestlers who haven't
been.
I'm looking, looking at mriguana.
Look how famous he's got off ofworld's cloud alone yeah, most
(12:16):
people didn't know who he wasbefore world's cloud and now he
his stuff is getting sold on thewebsite but yes yeah, it was at
one point.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I don't know if it still is, I don't hear there
they had the the what's thelittle uh lit uh like by eska
boy, that's not ww shopstanisdepp had one the other day
oh no, I know he just boughtthat one it wasn't from ww.
Yeah, he just bought that onelike off of somewhere okay,
whoever they got him from you,they're going to be selling
(12:47):
hotcakes, whatever it is.
Yeah, but yeah.
So that's what you're going tosay.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
For the women's match .
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, that's the only women's championship match on
here, right?
That's the only women's match,really, if you think about it,
because the Judgment Day matchis a mixed tag team match, but
like all women yeah, you know,is that their main championship.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Which one?
The women's championship?
Yeah, okay, that's theirwomen's championship.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, well, that makes sense, and the next match
on the card is a mixed tag teammatch or mixed trios match it's
the Judgment Day versus MrIguana and Nino Hamburguesa and
Lola Weiss, which I forgot.
Lola Weiss was in the team.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, she's been wrestling Joe Flavor for a
little while.
No, she's been there for thelast few weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, but um yeah, so this one I mean it is, and I
think it's Raquel.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
that's wrestling not.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Not, rustin Not.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Rustin, I think Raquel's the one wrestling, I
believe.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Okay, I believe.
I mean, that kind of makessense.
Yeah, I think that's thewrestling.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I believe that's what they said when they showed the
thing the other day.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I didn't even see the match card.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, they showed a little bit of it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
They threw together all the matches in like a couple
of like one week, right yeahsomething like that.
But yeah, for this one I don'tknow honestly, because, like the
Judgment Day, they had thatwhole little thing.
You know, and the Judgment DayI don't know honestly, I don't
(14:31):
know, I, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'll probably say Mr Iguana's team.
Yeah, I'll probably say histeam.
Yeah, yeah, mr Iguana wasgetting a lot of publicity
recently Since World of Glide, Ithink.
Instagram went up triple,something like that.
It's probably more, probablymore by 10 pounds, probably by
now.
Yeah, it went from like under ahundred thousand to well over
(14:53):
into the, into a hundredthousand yeah, so it's the team
is the judgment day?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
it's ben jd and rickette.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
All right, don't have the match.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, another match, so it's not gonna be him oh yeah
, that's right, I forgot he isin the main event yeah, but yeah
, I think this is going to be amatch.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I'm not really familiar with Neo Hamburguesa,
which is Kid Hamburger orHamburger Kid something like
that.
Yeah, yeah, hamburguesa's.
Hamburger Kid yeah, it shouldbe Hamburger Kid or Kid
Hamburger, I can't we'll figureit out, you know, but I'm not
too familiar with him.
(15:31):
But yeah, it should be a goodmatchup.
If they go on a little while,it should be a good matchup.
I mean, they got Finn Balor JD.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, oh, I forgot about Finn Bal.
He's a really good wrestler,that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
There should be all these matches.
All these matches are good.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh, yeah, and JD too, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
JD.
So all these matches are goingto be good matches.
I mean so yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
What do?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
you think is going to be the best match on the card
Hard to even get into that.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, probably.
I was going to say either thecup or the main event.
Yeah, either the cup or themain event, yeah, but yeah, so
that's what you're gonna say forthat one.
What team did you pick again?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
uh, mystery bronze team, like you did yeah, alright
and um.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
For the next match on the card and the main event,
it's El Eo del Vakingo versusDominic Mysterio versus Dragon
Lee versus El Grande Americanofor the AAA Mega Championship.
Dang, I mean like.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Before you start, though, the wild card is, will
they bring in Alberto El Patron?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean you know Dario , yeah because he had the AAA
mega.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's who, that's who, that's who Vickie can go
beat for the belt.
Yeah, I know, I remember sotechnically I think he's still
in the company but obviouslyyeah, gotta be.
They were on bad terms at onepoint, yeah.
I don't know if they still arenow.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean CM.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Punk came back, so anything's possible, but I don't
know if they're the onlyspeaking terms or not.
If they're all speaking terms,he's going to pop in.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So like that would be like, not like on bad terms,
but say WWE's just on bad termswith MJF for some reason.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's about AEW.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, and then they buy AEW and then they have an
AEW show that's run by WWE.
They can't just not show MJF,can?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
they?
They can tell them not to comeout.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
They could just do that.
Oh yeah, they own the company,do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You own the company.
You can tell whoever you wantnot to come out.
That's messed up.
They come out, they get fired.
Also I think the wider card youknow there's like four, except
from this surprisingly, Ithought it was just one person,
but there's three of them now.
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
We'll just go find out who they are, maybe soon
find out who they are you thinkthe first Ogundi is coming back
too in this match.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I don't know, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure where he's been at.
He's on vacation, I guess.
Yeah, I'm not sure where he'sbeen at, but maybe he will come
back.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I don't know.
There's like one, there's likefive right, Four or five.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
If you have my original one and then this other
one that's a little bit tallerthan the original one, yeah, and
these two other ones that justdebuted last couple weeks, it's
four.
Yeah, well, yeah, maybe four.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, at least four, oh yeah, but yeah, they could
just run this entire match.
I mean, probably the first, elGrande, won't come back, but
like the other two, they couldjust like be in this match, you
know.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Not be in the match.
I'm not sure why Grande's out,but I remember Chad Gable had a
shoulder injury.
Yeah, that's why he's not beenthere, but I'm not sure why the
original El Grande's not beenthere.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Uh-huh, yeah, you know.
Has Chad Gable had surgery forhis shoulder yet?
Yeah, I think he consideringWWE.
(19:15):
If we're thinking WWE here, Idon't think Dragon Lee wins.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But Dragon Lee could be a good mix, though A good
like, because he wrestled in AAAbefore.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, I think so.
Now he'd be a good like midwrestled in AAA before.
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
He'd be a good like mid-person, like Rose Garza was.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, I think so too, but I was just saying, dang,
you said Rose Garza was, you'rewriting them off already.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
No, I'm saying I think they were in AAA
beforehand.
Oh, oh and they're a good mix,they you know they, and they're
a good mix.
They joined both dragons.
They were in AAA, they were inWWE, but they still, you know
same way with Dragon Lee.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Like Dragon Lee would be a good champion, but I don't
think he's gonna win.
And El Grande?
I don't think he's gonna win, Idon't think.
Yeah, no, I don't know, I wasgoing to say Bigingo, but it
would be hard for him to retainin that type of match.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's the fatal four-way right.
Yeah, I would say Dominic, butI mean, If Dominic wins, that
would be the biggest heat.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, that would be double champ too.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That would be double champ too.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I want to say, I want to say either Dominic or El
Grande.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, I'll go ahead and do mine, and you can decide
between those two.
Here's my thing, though ElVekingo will retain unless El
Patron comes up.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That's the only way.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's the only way he doesn't win.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You don't well how.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Because he beat El Patron for it and El Patron got
beat.
He had a match.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I want to say he had a match the other day.
I'm saying like how is it theonly way that?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Because nobody's beating El Patron right now.
He, he's too good.
Have you seen him wrestle?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
yeah, I saw that Chad Gable match.
That was amazing, yeah, he hasall his.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
He wrestled Kenny Omega.
Same kind of match.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Also in that Chad Gable match people.
I think people should beconsidering more for that, for
the not the greatest, the bestmatch of the year so far.
That's what.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'm saying, like, elvick K King had those kind of
matches with everybody.
He wrestled Kenny Omega Greatmatch.
That's a normal match for him.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Matches like that are normalfor him.
He doesn't wrestle as much as anormal WWE wrestler does, but
when he does wrestle he wrestles.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Wasn't he in AEW?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
He wasn't.
He wrestled Kenny Omega.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
He was in AEW a couple months ago or last year
Last.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
He was in AEW a couple months ago or last year,
last year, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
yeah, what happened?
I watched a couple of hismatches in AEW.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, he was still at AAA, they were working with.
Aaa.
Oh yeah, he was still at AAAthe whole time no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh so they couldn't work with AVW.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm not saying that.
But why not?
Why don't you buy a company andget all their talent, more
talent, to go around, especiallyif you're trying to make it
worldwide, like they are?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
and also at first I thought, like when the worlds
collide thing was, I thought itwas a partnership.
The whole time I thought it wasa partnership.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I mean technically it's a partnership.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They're running them, but it's like it is a
partnership though I thought itwas like a TNA type of
partnership oh yeah, no, no,that's a partnership.
And then I think you told methat they were just buying them
yeah, they bought them.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, I think they bought them.
They still let the trip likepeople run, I think like, but
they're over it though oh, theydo, and the lady keeps trying to
begin her name.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean that would be kind of messed up, honestly.
If they took her from herpresident's spot, that would be
messed up it could.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
If you own a company, you can do whatever you want
with it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, but you know how many people that would
offend?
Yeah, I mean.
I think, anyways that I wouldsay.
So you're going to say Vikingoor what?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, I'm going to say Vikingo, unless there's some
, unless El Patron comes out andinterferes, vikingo wins this
match.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You know what I might lose, but I'm going to just
throw it out there.
You're going to dump it.
El Grande is going to win.
Oh El Grande, Yep El Grande,Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Mm-hmm, he has.
Okay, that's a good one.
He has a lot of momentum.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
So far, every day, this is everything else we've
been doing this is the tallerguy in this match, right I?
Don't know which one it is.
I'm guessing that's what itlooked like like a taller one
cause.
He's the one who's been builtup the most yeah, but it could
be any of them, though it'sthree of them the way it looks.
Yeah, so we don't really knowwho's going to be in there.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So, yeah, yeah, I'm going to say El Grande, with the
help of the other El Grandes.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay, that was a pretty good one, though Anything
else with this card.
Nope, that's it Is this yourfirst Triple Mania mania, I mean
first time you watch up mania I.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I watched one, but not like I'm.
This is the first time Iwatched it live because I
watched a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, yeah, I've watched a few of them.
I've probably seen three, maybethree or four, probably like
three or four maybe I've seen.
Yeah, at least glad three forsure I've watched, yeah, but but
yeah, so yeah, it's pretty aninteresting card.
We'll see how that goes andit's going to lead into what we
got Heatwave.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Heatwave.
Oh yeah, I forgot about.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Heatwave next next weekend oh damn, and then Clash
in Paris weekend after that oh,I thought Clash in Paris next
weekend no Heatwave next weekendand then Clash in Paris is like
the last Saturday of the month,and then heat wave is next
weekend.
Okay, so, yeah, so yeah.
Anything else you got afterthis?
(24:50):
Nope, it should be aninteresting end of the month of
August.
Get us ready to run into that.
Um, was it SummerSlam?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, no wait, it's Perth.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
The Perth is October, not where it's at, it's the
Survivor Series.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
The Survivor Series.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The Perth is October right.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
In Australia?
Yeah, that's in October.
Well, the Survivor Series is inSan Diego this year.
Yeah, san Diego November youthink the Grand Mysterio is
going to come back.
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Of course, just like they were a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I mean I don't like, where does he fit in at Survivor
?
What?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
does he fit in at World of Clash?
He's a random mystery.
Exactly, he's from San Diego619.
That's what 619 stands for.
It's the area code for SanDiego.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh, that's what 619 is.
Oh yeah, you told me that onetime.
Yeah, it's the area code forSan Diego.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So of course he's going to show up.
But uh, they got.
They got a forbidden door.
Aew coming up here soon, Ithink.
I want to say next weekend too,maybe oh see you next weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I want to say sometimes like I hate that, like
what WWE and AEW havepay-per-views on the screen.
I mean, you only got fourweekends in a year.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I mean four weekends in a month though yeah, I mean,
you can do it, but it's kind ofhard.
When WWE got one this weekend,next weekend, weekend, after you
gotta put you gotta put itagainst somebody so I mean it is
.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It is better to put it against NXT, yeah, I mean, I
mean it's kind of I don't knowwho has more like viewers,
triple A or NXT, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
NXT, probably because they're on TV.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
There's a lot of people who don't watch NXT on
the main roster.
A lot of people.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
A lot of people don't watch Triple H either.
It's probably close to the sameas far as that goes.
I would say probably NXT hasthe edge of their own TV.
I think they're on Netflix andother countries and then over
here they're on CW.
So Netflix is a pretty big app,if you're in another country.
(26:56):
So yeah, nope, alright, sothere's been another one.
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Tag.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Team.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Talk.
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, here we are for another one.
This time we're going to bedoing Triple Mania 32.
Triple Mania 32.
So, yeah, let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
For the first match it's Los Garzas versus Pagano
and Psycho Clown for the AAAWorld Tag Team Championship.
So for this one I mean it isAAA.
So like I feel like it could goeither way.
(00:47):
I just find too, but I'llprobably say Los Garzas.
How long has that rating been?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
A couple months, a few months, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I would say Los Garzas.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Probably most of summer, I would think.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, Especially because WWE, too, they like to
have longer reigns too.
So Los Garza, Probably most ofthe summer, I would think yeah,
Especially because WWE too, theylike to have longer reigns too.
So I love Garza.
I would say I love Garza, yeah,I don't know I like Pagano and
Cycle Clown, though.
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, I like them I like the old guys.
Yeah, it should be a good match, though Regardless Should be a
pretty good match.
I mean, usuallytriple-maintenant matches are
pretty good.
I mean, that's their biggestevent of the year, so that
should be a pretty good.
I don't know if it's going tobe the opener or not, but that
should be a good match foreverybody to put that in the
(01:37):
card.
But I'm going to go with Paganoand Cycle Clown on this one
though, just because I thinkthey you know those guards have
already seen.
I mean they've defended alittle bit, but you haven't seen
too much to defend that beltyet.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But Pagano- and Tycho Kahn at least Tycho Kahn's been
on.
What is it?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
SmackDown.
Yeah, he's on SmackDown.
Yeah, you know he's onSmackDown or whatever.
No, that was Tycho Kahn rightyeah, Tycho.
Kahn and Vince Lee Wong.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I'm going to go withPagano and Cyclone to win this
one.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But yeah, okay.
So for the next match on thecard is El Macias versus El Eo
del, dr Wagner Jr for the AAALatin American Championship,
triple A, triple A LatinAmerican Championship.
And for this one, I mean for meprobably, I'm going to go Dr
(02:31):
Wagner Jr, probably, or likeL-E-L Del Dr Wagner.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, we saw both of them when we watched it earlier.
Was it the last one or whatever?
The Triple A event?
Yeah, we saw both of themearlier.
So Dr Wagner was on World ofClown too.
Yeah, Was El Macias on there?
He came out at the beginningdidn't he?
I don't know I don't know ifhe's on there at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, he was on the.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Triple event.
We saw he came out earlier.
Uh-huh, he was the big guy thebig guy you saw?
Yeah, I'll tell you that was inLucha Underground, uh-huh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Both of them was on Lucha Underground, but Mm-hmm.
And then El Macias was uh, hewas in TNA as well.
Yeah, julius Macias, I thinkhis name was.
I'm sorry, I'm not that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But who are you picking, dr Wagner?
Yep, I'm going to go with ElMacias, just because I've been
watching him for a while anyway.
I mean, he's a little older, Imean he's got to be Shoot Part
of the same reason.
I see a punk problem aroundthat age, probably up there with
that, up there with the punkage.
(03:40):
He's been around for a while.
He's in TNA for a while stillpunk age.
He's been wrestling for a while.
He's in TNA for a while.
I'm not sure if he made WWE,but I know he's in TNA for a
while and he's a loser on theground too.
But yeah, I'm going to go withEl Mestiz to win this one and
retain his Latin Americanchampionship.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And that's what you're going to say, for that,
yeah, that's it for that one.
And for the next match on thecard is the Bardal Bardal Cup.
And what is this one cause?
I don't know about this one.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's basically their version of like a not really
it's like a Royal Rumble type ofthing yeah, that's what I was
thinking.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
that's what I was thinking, that's what it sounds
like.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So you know how I was saying before, like in order,
when you have an event like this, just make it, just put a
banner on you so you can getmore wrestlers in yeah.
Just diversify that.
Just get all the wrestlers inthere.
The wrestlers who don't have aregular match, a scheduled match
you can get them on the card.
Is it like, but I'm thinking onthis one, though in order to
(04:43):
get eliminated, you gotta getpinned.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, kind of like the one AEW had, kind of like
that one so like.
But there's the first one toget pinned though.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
This one right here to get eliminated.
You gotta get pinned, but theycome in like Rory Rumble do.
Uh-huh you know, one at a timeall right, so, but that's
basically what that is.
I'm not sure if the winner getsanything or they just.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, I think that's what I was gonna they might just
get a cup.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know if they get any, like how much is
anything?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I'm not sure I'm gonna get like some kind of cup.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You know, I'm not sure they get like a title match
or triple a.
You know mega champions oranything like that.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, maybe they'll say itbefore that match comes on.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Mm-hmm.
Well, I mean, I don't knowwho's going to be in there.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't either.
I don't know who's going to bein there either.
I'm not sure.
I mean, I'm sure there's goingto be some.
I'm sure, if they do it right,it's going to be some guys from
AAA in there and some guys fromWWE in there.
Mm thinking, maybe there's afew miscarriages in TNA, so
maybe a couple of them will popup.
But yeah, it should be a prettyentertaining match though.
(05:49):
You get to see a lot ofespecially people who don't
really follow AAA like that.
You get to see a lot of theirwrestlers in this match.
I would probably pick Mr Iguana, but he already has a match he
has a match, so yeah, but forthis match you'll probably see a
lot of wrestlers you're notfamiliar with, people you don't
know, and that way you can kindof you might end up liking them.
(06:10):
Yeah, you know, especially ifyou don't know who they are
before, It'll be like watching aRoyal Rumble for the first time
and not knowing who thewrestlers are.
You may like one of so similarto that, but you know, and the
next match on the card is Flamer.
Flamer.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Flamer okay, versus Fabi Pichi, apache, apache, all
right.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Versus Natalia for the AAA.
Rina de Reyes, reina de reyes,reina de reyes championship.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I think that's queen of the queens or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh, oh, reina the queen, something like that that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure one of those words is rain.
Yeah, I know, I think I knowthat.
But yeah, so for this one.
I mean, I'm not really familiarwith the people in this match,
except for Natalia.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm surprised they didn't have her in World Collide
, even if she was a femalechampion, because they had all
the other champions there, butmost all of them.
I'm surprised they didn't haveher pop up me personally, I
don't see Natalia winning thisbut she could, because Natalia
has won already before, so I'dbe surprised if she won.
(07:43):
But I'm going to have to finishup a part of mine.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Uh, so I'm going to say Flamer.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, the champion retainer, uh-huh, yeah.
So here's my thing.
Which which Natalia are wegoing to get?
Are we going to get the Nataliathat we see in independent
wrestling?
Have you been watching that atall?
A little I've been watchingwhen she does the Bloodsport
thing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's like the member of Underground.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So they have another.
I think it's GCW.
They do something similar wherethey have Bloodsport or
whatever it is.
They do it like every couple ofweeks.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Is she still on the show?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, she fights, like every event so far.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Does WWE own them?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
No, they let them wrestle in there.
Oh, they let them wrestle inthere.
They're not like they used tobe, where you can't wrestle
outside anymore.
They're not going to be on AEWTV, obviously, obviously, yeah,
but they'll end up doing someindependent wrestling scene.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like Omos is in that one.
Yeah, noah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Pro wrestling Noah over in Japan.
Yes, mm-hmm, but they probablywon't be in New Japan though.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So they will probably be in New Japan oh.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Why wouldn't they?
Because New.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Japan was the worst for AEW, and so whoever AEW
works with AEW doesn't reallywork well, because that way
there won't be no conflict ofinterest.
Yeah, but yeah, I want to seeif they bring Natalia, the one
we see on Money Night, raw andstuff, or they bring Nat again,
the alter ego, which is a little.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, it's probably just going to be Natalia, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's what I'm saying.
Maybe We'll see.
We'll see when she comes outwhat music they play.
She has a whole different musicfor that one too.
Oh dang yeah.
Completely different, a wholedifferent personality, yeah, a
whole different personality.
So I'm curious if they're goingto try to bring in DeVito.
That side of her that's more ofa heel than Babyface, I mean
(09:43):
she needs something she needssomething.
Yeah, I'll be surprised they dobring it in.
They gotta do it right, though.
If they do, they have to do itright, cause this is that other
character she's been playingother personalities is a good
personality yeah so they gottado it right for the fans to go
along with if people don't watchother companies.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I mean so like it would probably be like just
turning on Alpha Academy, right,or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Something like that.
Yeah, Probably attacking Tazawaand Maxine Dupree.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But like the thing about heel turns, especially
with like lower tag teams likeAlpha Academy, like if you like
don't do anything, then it'sjust a waste.
Like Ron Killman and ArnoldJohnson out of me, like if you
like don't do anything, thenit's just a waste.
Like like wrong killing, andI'm with john cena rather, yeah,
yeah I'm not sure what's goingon with that one.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, we'll.
We'll get to that when we getaround to it but yeah yeah, I
don't know what's going on withthat, but yeah, like you said,
it gotta be a good turn but, umyeah, so who are you?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
who'd you pick?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
oh, who's that one in there?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
baby, baby, oh, baby apache yeah, yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm gonna pick her because I've seen her.
I've seen her for her matches.
She's pretty good wrestler too.
You'll probably, you'llprobably like her yeah like her
style anyways, but but yeah, I'mgoing to pick her Apache to win
, to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Mm-hmm, but yeah, that's all you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's all.
It should be good.
That should be a pretty goodmatch too.
All three of those women arepretty good wrestlers.
You bring in a veteran-likebattalion there.
You know two luch, yeah, thishas.
I mean, this car is a prettygood car.
I mean, and like I said, thatcut match maybe could be good
too, because you're gonna have alot, of, a lot of wrestlers in
there trying to show, because alot is gonna be the first time
(11:34):
they've been like on this thisday that the bees promoted it oh
, it's gonna be another these uhyoutube channels, not their
youtube channel that doesn'tmake this channel like it was,
like world's fly was.
Oh yeah, it's gonna be likeworld's fly.
World's fly was on.
Yeah, it's going to be likewhere Cloud was.
Remember where Cloud was onYouTube.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's going to be just like that, so it's going to be
on WWE millions of views.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
They should do like a channel together.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, they don't need to, because WWE is baller, so
they show on their channel,which has more views than Triple
A does.
And also WWE subscribers,that's what I'm saying, and so
he put them on there.
Any people who not subscribedto me are still gonna be
watching yeah and so a lot of, alot of wrestlers who haven't
been.
I'm looking, looking at mriguana.
Look how famous he's got off ofworld's cloud alone yeah, most
(12:16):
people didn't know who he wasbefore world's cloud and now he
his stuff is getting sold on thewebsite but yes yeah, it was at
one point.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I don't know if it still is, I don't hear there
they had the the what's thelittle uh lit uh like by eska
boy, that's not ww shopstanisdepp had one the other day
oh no, I know he just boughtthat one it wasn't from ww.
Yeah, he just bought that onelike off of somewhere okay,
whoever they got him from you,they're going to be selling
(12:47):
hotcakes, whatever it is.
Yeah, but yeah.
So that's what you're going tosay.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
For the women's match .
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, that's the only women's championship match on
here, right?
That's the only women's match,really, if you think about it,
because the Judgment Day matchis a mixed tag team match, but
like all women yeah, you know,is that their main championship.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Which one?
The women's championship?
Yeah, okay, that's theirwomen's championship.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, well, that makes sense, and the next match
on the card is a mixed tag teammatch or mixed trios match it's
the Judgment Day versus MrIguana and Nino Hamburguesa and
Lola Weiss, which I forgot.
Lola Weiss was in the team.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, she's been wrestling Joe Flavor for a
little while.
No, she's been there for thelast few weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, but um yeah, so this one I mean it is, and I
think it's Raquel.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
that's wrestling not.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Not, rustin Not.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Rustin, I think Raquel's the one wrestling, I
believe.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Okay, I believe.
I mean, that kind of makessense.
Yeah, I think that's thewrestling.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I believe that's what they said when they showed the
thing the other day.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I didn't even see the match card.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, they showed a little bit of it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
They threw together all the matches in like a couple
of like one week, right yeahsomething like that.
But yeah, for this one I don'tknow honestly, because, like the
Judgment Day, they had thatwhole little thing.
You know, and the Judgment DayI don't know honestly, I don't
(14:31):
know, I, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'll probably say Mr Iguana's team.
Yeah, I'll probably say histeam.
Yeah, yeah, mr Iguana wasgetting a lot of publicity
recently Since World of Glide, Ithink.
Instagram went up triple,something like that.
It's probably more, probablymore by 10 pounds, probably by
now.
Yeah, it went from like under ahundred thousand to well over
(14:53):
into the, into a hundredthousand yeah, so it's the team
is the judgment day?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
it's ben jd and rickette.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
All right, don't have the match.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, another match, so it's not gonna be him oh yeah
, that's right, I forgot he isin the main event yeah, but yeah
, I think this is going to be amatch.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I'm not really familiar with Neo Hamburguesa,
which is Kid Hamburger orHamburger Kid something like
that.
Yeah, yeah, hamburguesa's.
Hamburger Kid yeah, it shouldbe Hamburger Kid or Kid
Hamburger, I can't we'll figureit out, you know, but I'm not
too familiar with him.
(15:31):
But yeah, it should be a goodmatchup.
If they go on a little while,it should be a good matchup.
I mean, they got Finn Balor JD.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, oh, I forgot about Finn Bal.
He's a really good wrestler,that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
There should be all these matches.
All these matches are good.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh, yeah, and JD too, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
JD.
So all these matches are goingto be good matches.
I mean so yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
What do?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
you think is going to be the best match on the card
Hard to even get into that.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, probably.
I was going to say either thecup or the main event.
Yeah, either the cup or themain event, yeah, but yeah, so
that's what you're gonna say forthat one.
What team did you pick again?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
uh, mystery bronze team, like you did yeah, alright
and um.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
For the next match on the card and the main event,
it's El Eo del Vakingo versusDominic Mysterio versus Dragon
Lee versus El Grande Americanofor the AAA Mega Championship.
Dang, I mean like.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Before you start, though, the wild card is, will
they bring in Alberto El Patron?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean you know Dario , yeah because he had the AAA
mega.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's who, that's who, that's who Vickie can go
beat for the belt.
Yeah, I know, I remember sotechnically I think he's still
in the company but obviouslyyeah, gotta be.
They were on bad terms at onepoint, yeah.
I don't know if they still arenow.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean CM.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Punk came back, so anything's possible, but I don't
know if they're the onlyspeaking terms or not.
If they're all speaking terms,he's going to pop in.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So like that would be like, not like on bad terms,
but say WWE's just on bad termswith MJF for some reason.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's about AEW.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, and then they buy AEW and then they have an
AEW show that's run by WWE.
They can't just not show MJF,can?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
they?
They can tell them not to comeout.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
They could just do that.
Oh yeah, they own the company,do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You own the company.
You can tell whoever you wantnot to come out.
That's messed up.
They come out, they get fired.
Also I think the wider card youknow there's like four, except
from this surprisingly, Ithought it was just one person,
but there's three of them now.
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
We'll just go find out who they are, maybe soon
find out who they are you thinkthe first Ogundi is coming back
too in this match.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I don't know, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure where he's been at.
He's on vacation, I guess.
Yeah, I'm not sure where he'sbeen at, but maybe he will come
back.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I don't know.
There's like one, there's likefive right, Four or five.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
If you have my original one and then this other
one that's a little bit tallerthan the original one, yeah, and
these two other ones that justdebuted last couple weeks, it's
four.
Yeah, well, yeah, maybe four.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, at least four, oh yeah, but yeah, they could
just run this entire match.
I mean, probably the first, elGrande, won't come back, but
like the other two, they couldjust like be in this match, you
know.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Not be in the match.
I'm not sure why Grande's out,but I remember Chad Gable had a
shoulder injury.
Yeah, that's why he's not beenthere, but I'm not sure why the
original El Grande's not beenthere.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Uh-huh, yeah, you know.
Has Chad Gable had surgery forhis shoulder yet?
Yeah, I think he consideringWWE.
(19:15):
If we're thinking WWE here, Idon't think Dragon Lee wins.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But Dragon Lee could be a good mix, though A good
like, because he wrestled in AAAbefore.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, I think so.
Now he'd be a good like midwrestled in AAA before.
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
He'd be a good like mid-person, like Rose Garza was.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, I think so too, but I was just saying, dang,
you said Rose Garza was, you'rewriting them off already.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
No, I'm saying I think they were in AAA
beforehand.
Oh, oh and they're a good mix,they you know they, and they're
a good mix.
They joined both dragons.
They were in AAA, they were inWWE, but they still, you know
same way with Dragon Lee.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Like Dragon Lee would be a good champion, but I don't
think he's gonna win.
And El Grande?
I don't think he's gonna win, Idon't think.
Yeah, no, I don't know, I wasgoing to say Bigingo, but it
would be hard for him to retainin that type of match.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's the fatal four-way right.
Yeah, I would say Dominic, butI mean, If Dominic wins, that
would be the biggest heat.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, that would be double champ too.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That would be double champ too.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I want to say, I want to say either Dominic or El
Grande.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, I'll go ahead and do mine, and you can decide
between those two.
Here's my thing, though ElVekingo will retain unless El
Patron comes up.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That's the only way.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's the only way he doesn't win.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You don't well how.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Because he beat El Patron for it and El Patron got
beat.
He had a match.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I want to say he had a match the other day.
I'm saying like how is it theonly way that?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Because nobody's beating El Patron right now.
He, he's too good.
Have you seen him wrestle?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
yeah, I saw that Chad Gable match.
That was amazing, yeah, he hasall his.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
He wrestled Kenny Omega.
Same kind of match.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Also in that Chad Gable match people.
I think people should beconsidering more for that, for
the not the greatest, the bestmatch of the year so far.
That's what.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'm saying, like, elvick K King had those kind of
matches with everybody.
He wrestled Kenny Omega Greatmatch.
That's a normal match for him.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Matches like that are normalfor him.
He doesn't wrestle as much as anormal WWE wrestler does, but
when he does wrestle he wrestles.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Wasn't he in AEW?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
He wasn't.
He wrestled Kenny Omega.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
He was in AEW a couple months ago or last year
Last.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
He was in AEW a couple months ago or last year,
last year, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
yeah, what happened?
I watched a couple of hismatches in AEW.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, he was still at AAA, they were working with.
Aaa.
Oh yeah, he was still at AAAthe whole time no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh so they couldn't work with AVW.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm not saying that.
But why not?
Why don't you buy a company andget all their talent, more
talent, to go around, especiallyif you're trying to make it
worldwide, like they are?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
and also at first I thought, like when the worlds
collide thing was, I thought itwas a partnership.
The whole time I thought it wasa partnership.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I mean technically it's a partnership.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They're running them, but it's like it is a
partnership though I thought itwas like a TNA type of
partnership oh yeah, no, no,that's a partnership.
And then I think you told methat they were just buying them
yeah, they bought them.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, I think they bought them.
They still let the trip likepeople run, I think like, but
they're over it though oh, theydo, and the lady keeps trying to
begin her name.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean that would be kind of messed up, honestly.
If they took her from herpresident's spot, that would be
messed up it could.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
If you own a company, you can do whatever you want
with it.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, but you know how many people that would
offend?
Yeah, I mean.
I think, anyways that I wouldsay.
So you're going to say Vikingoor what?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, I'm going to say Vikingo, unless there's some
, unless El Patron comes out andinterferes, vikingo wins this
match.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You know what I might lose, but I'm going to just
throw it out there.
You're going to dump it.
El Grande is going to win.
Oh El Grande, Yep El Grande,Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Mm-hmm, he has.
Okay, that's a good one.
He has a lot of momentum.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
So far, every day, this is everything else we've
been doing this is the tallerguy in this match, right I?
Don't know which one it is.
I'm guessing that's what itlooked like like a taller one
cause.
He's the one who's been builtup the most yeah, but it could
be any of them, though it'sthree of them the way it looks.
Yeah, so we don't really knowwho's going to be in there.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So, yeah, yeah, I'm going to say El Grande, with the
help of the other El Grandes.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay, that was a pretty good one, though Anything
else with this card.
Nope, that's it Is this yourfirst Triple Mania mania, I mean
first time you watch up mania I.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I watched one, but not like I'm.
This is the first time Iwatched it live because I
watched a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, yeah, I've watched a few of them.
I've probably seen three, maybethree or four, probably like
three or four maybe I've seen.
Yeah, at least glad three forsure I've watched, yeah, but but
yeah, so yeah, it's pretty aninteresting card.
We'll see how that goes andit's going to lead into what we
got Heatwave.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Heatwave.
Oh yeah, I forgot about.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Heatwave next next weekend oh damn, and then Clash
in Paris weekend after that oh,I thought Clash in Paris next
weekend no Heatwave next weekendand then Clash in Paris is like
the last Saturday of the month,and then heat wave is next
weekend.
Okay, so, yeah, so yeah.
Anything else you got afterthis?
(24:50):
Nope, it should be aninteresting end of the month of
August.
Get us ready to run into that.
Um, was it SummerSlam?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, no wait, it's Perth.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
The Perth is October, not where it's at, it's the
Survivor Series.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
The Survivor Series.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The Perth is October right.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
In Australia?
Yeah, that's in October.
Well, the Survivor Series is inSan Diego this year.
Yeah, san Diego November youthink the Grand Mysterio is
going to come back.
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Of course, just like they were a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I mean I don't like, where does he fit in at Survivor
?
What?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
does he fit in at World of Clash?
He's a random mystery.
Exactly, he's from San Diego619.
That's what 619 stands for.
It's the area code for SanDiego.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh, that's what 619 is.
Oh yeah, you told me that onetime.
Yeah, it's the area code forSan Diego.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So of course he's going to show up.
But uh, they got.
They got a forbidden door.
Aew coming up here soon, Ithink.
I want to say next weekend too,maybe oh see you next weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I want to say sometimes like I hate that, like
what WWE and AEW havepay-per-views on the screen.
I mean, you only got fourweekends in a year.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I mean four weekends in a month though yeah, I mean,
you can do it, but it's kind ofhard.
When WWE got one this weekend,next weekend, weekend, after you
gotta put you gotta put itagainst somebody so I mean it is
.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It is better to put it against NXT, yeah, I mean, I
mean it's kind of I don't knowwho has more like viewers,
triple A or NXT, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
NXT, probably because they're on TV.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
There's a lot of people who don't watch NXT on
the main roster.
A lot of people.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
A lot of people don't watch Triple H either.
It's probably close to the sameas far as that goes.
I would say probably NXT hasthe edge of their own TV.
I think they're on Netflix andother countries and then over
here they're on CW.
So Netflix is a pretty big app,if you're in another country.
(26:56):
So yeah, nope, alright, sothere's been another one.
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Tag.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Team.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Talk.
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