January 6, 2025 • 38 mins
WWE is poised for a historic transition as Raw moves from cable to Netflix for the first time ever. This shift ignites excitement over match predictions and the potential for surprises, we question how this change will shape the future of wrestling storytelling.
• Overview of Raw's transition to Netflix
• Match predictions for the Ula Fala (Tribal Combat match)
• Anticipation surrounding John Cena’s possible open challenge
• Insights into the women's championship match dynamics
• Expectations for the main event featuring CM Punk vs. Seth Rollins
• Pat McAfee's exciting return to commentary
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
welcome to the ben and bash podcast tag team talk
I'm ben, I'm bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the ben
and bash podcast tag team talkall right, we're going to do a
preview for the first ever rawon netflix.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's the end of an era on USA and the beginning of
a new era on Netflix.
I think they might have changedonce before in somewhere in the
2000s to I think it was SpikeTV or TNN or something like that
.
I remember changing once fromUSA to another show, but they've
always been on cable.
So this is the first time thatRaw is now on cable and since
(00:44):
they first debuted in, I think94, I think it was.
So, uh, let's get to it okay.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So for the first match, it's drew mcintyre versus
j uso and for this match, I wasvery surprised that a match of
this type was gonna be on a show, this like big I guess.
But like, I feel like thismatch is just to make the card a
little bit bigger.
(01:11):
Like the card and the matchmakes sense.
I'm just saying like I feellike if they had a like our four
matches anyways, I don't thinkthis match would be on the card.
But so, yeah, but this match, Ithink it's going to be good.
I feel like I'm pretty sureit's going to be the opener,
because there's just too big ofmatches on the card for this to
(01:34):
not be the opener let's say wewant to start opening over the
banker.
Like to do Premier League eventsbecause I know what they're
about to do.
If they do it like that, I knowwhat they're going to do CM
Punk vs Seth Rollins.
I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's the main event .
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Tribal Combat.
I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
They might start with Lil Morgan Real quick, they
probably will.
Or it could be Tribal Combat.
Because it's the first episode,go ahead and start it off early
by getting people tuned in.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You first.
You think the Rock's going tobe in the opener.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Why wouldn't he?
He wouldn't have come into that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That's the only reason the tag team match was on
the main event in Babluckbecause the Rock was coming, of
course, either way CM Punk andJ-Roc but you got to understand
too, though.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
This is the first show on Netflix, Right yeah, so
you want to get the eyes onthere.
So if social media is goingcrazy, saying the rock's here,
the rock's here, everybody'stuning in to Netflix Boom.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
They shouldn't do this because of that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's how the media works, man.
You want people to tune in.
So you start off with RomanReigns and Solo and people say,
oh, roman Reigns started amatch-off.
We got to watch it because rockmay interfere or he might come
out.
So now you got people watchingwho may have been like I'll wait
till later on, I don't want tosee the beginning of it.
You know what I mean.
So now you got people tuning inoff the top at eight o'clock on
(02:55):
the dot because Roman Reignsand Solo started a match off.
So maybe they're doing it thatway.
I don't know.
That's what I'm thinking.
Maybe they start with a bangerand get people tuned in because
it's the first episode.
You want people to the mainthing about a TV show.
You want people to tune in andstay tuned in the entire time.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You know.
So that's what it may do, andthen start off there, keep it
going.
John Cena comes out, boom.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I wonder what John Cena's going to talk about.
Oh no, I know what he's goingto, you see?
No, there is going to be fivematches on the card, because you
know what I'm going to predict.
What's that?
Open Challenge?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
John Cena yes.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
A thousand percent.
I couldn't be more confident.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So you think John Cena's going to be there?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I have a lot of predictions in wrestling but I
feel like this is the mostconfident I could ever be for a
prediction he's gonna I'm like99.9.
I'm not gonna even say thatamount of nines, but I'm just
I'm so confident, I'm soconfident I would bet so much
money.
But I'm not going to.
But I'm pretty sure John Cena'sgonna do be an open challenge.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I don't know.
I mean to be there.
They showed his picture lastweek.
They've been doing his music.
He's going to be there.
We know that.
What is he going to do?
This is his last year wrestling.
This is his last year.
This is his first day of thelast year of wrestling.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You know it would be crazy, but I know this is not
going to happen.
If he didn't open challenge andPenta came out, I know that's
not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That's all I'm going to ask you about.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I feel like John Cena has to win his first match and
Penta has to win his first matchPenta is going to be on Raw
right.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I can't remember if it was on Raw or SmackDown oh no
it was on Raw.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I want to say Raw.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I want to say Raw they showed the picture of the
mouth and the mask and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
The mouth.
When was that?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Last week it was like when they showed the outline of
it and it showed like thelittle teeth.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh, yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So that was on Raw right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So that's on Raw.
He's going to debut.
He's going to debut today.
I wonder if they.
Well, that's next week.
The um, the Xavier Woods, coveKingston versus Raven Stereo.
That's next week, right yeahokay, so maybe they won't debut.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I really want.
Oh, sorry go ahead.
I really don't want them to seePenta like turn, like I don't
want.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I don't want to see a baby face Penta well see, I
don't want, I don't want Pentato be joined up with Remy Zero,
just like it did Dragon Elite.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Oh, like with the LW yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean I get through all those doors, but let them be
separate you know, like youdon't have to put all of them in
the same group.
Yeah, It'd be like puttingeverybody from England in the
same group together.
I mean yeah, you could do that,but why?
So you can do Penta by himself?
Leave him out of the LWO,Because it seems like every
Hispanic wrestler comes in, theyput him in the LWO.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I like the LWO, I remember the original LWO with
Eddie Guerrero and them guys,but it's like cool.
But Penta has done enough onhis own in AEW in Mexico, lucha,
underground, all that kind ofstuff, to where he can, he can
be on his own and you know.
Then obviously you know he gothis brother coming up next too.
(06:11):
I mean Ray Fiend.
Once he gets out of hiscontract with AEW he's gonna be
there you know, you know howthey could.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
They could have him team with Ray Mysterio and still
be heel what's that?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
have him, his brother Bell rings bang Punch to Rey.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Mysterio done.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Out of there, but that wouldn't help out Xavier
Wilson and Colton Kingstonthough.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's Penta I mean that's the point.
You want Xavier Wilson andColton Kingston to get booed, so
you don't want to take thespotlight off them.
They built this whole thing up,with them talking about Big E
and all that just for them toget upstaged by a debut in
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You don't want them to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But what I'm saying is you know ray finks is coming.
Yeah, will they keep the samename?
I don't know if they're gonnakeep the same name, penta.
I don't think they can do thatI mean, I think they can, they
should be able to.
They can't, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I mean does aw do that same thing as wwe?
Uh, jay cargill, well, that washer name before.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That's her name before aw.
Oh so I don't.
I don't think AEW owns theright to her name.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
CM, oh, never mind.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
CM Punk.
That's his name before WWE yeah.
I already knew Before he cameto WWE.
That was his name in Ring ofHonor, so that was his name
before he came to WWE originally.
Yeah, I think he was one of thefirst ones I can remember that
came to WWE and kept his name.
Yeah, this was back in when ECWwas a brand wait wait, he's the
(07:27):
major on how well I know that,like I actually was a world
champion ECW.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I didn't know that was a world champ.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I thought I was just a side title from the BW nice it
was a used to have a stupidbrass for CM Punk debut, though
the first my scene CM Punkanyways, outside of Rick Arnaut
was in ECW yeah and so he keptthe same name.
That's how I knew who he was.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, I thought the title that Bobby Lashley had was
just like a like a like anintercontinental title.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
No, he was ECW world champion.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I was surprised they'd give it to him, like I
thought it was given to, likeRod Van Dam or something like
that Well to be.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We saw it's not ECW's title, no, but he had ECW title
already.
Though, yeah, when he's the badass had their own, their own
company, he's W shit, you know.
But but yeah, like I said, johnCena, I think he's gonna be
there.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Obviously, what is he gonna do, don't know and also
another thing um Travis Scott isdebuting a new um theme song,
for I think yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know if I've even heard the song already.
I don't know if it's a new song, I'm not interested in the song
.
But I'm saying like I don'tknow if it's a new song or I'm
sure it's a new song.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Why would he just put a random song?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, it could be one of his old songs they're using
as the intro.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I don using that as the intro.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't want that, though, but I don't know that
though, so I have no idea.
I haven't.
I mean, I probably heard it,just knew a travis scott song.
So I don't really know ifthey're gonna do like a new song
, like a brand new original song, just for raw, or are they
gonna do one of travis scott'salready released songs or album
songs and make it the intro?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
if they're one of the old ones, I don't even know.
I I know like one travis scScott song I think it's.
Travis Scott.
I don't even know who's Travis.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Scott, you can do like it's like the Premier Live
Events.
Use people's songs.
They don't make songs, just forthose Premier Live Events they
use people already.
They use music from like 20-30years ago, sometimes Premier
Live Events some of those songsfrom Premier Live Events Ozzy
Osbourne, you know Metallica andstuff you know.
So they make songs from likeway back and they'll re, you
(09:27):
know they'll re re-release themor reuse them and make them the
theme to Prim Live man.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I don't see why they would announce that, though
cause he's performing.
I I mean, I like Travis Scott.
He's one of my favorite singers, but I really don't care.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But see, but this is what I'm saying, but you don't
care A lot of people like TravisScott he's one of the highest.
I do like Travis Scott.
That's what I'm saying.
So don't say you don't care,because a lot of people do, and
he's going to probably open upRaw because it's his song.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
His song is the theme song, so they performing in the
beginning, yeah, before anybodycomes out, you know.
But yeah, I mean I'm kind ofcurious to see what song he uses
.
If it's going to be a brand new, I'd rather hear a brand new
song from Travis Scott that hassomething to do with Raw and
wrestling.
He's a wrestling fan.
Yeah, Wait, he is yeah he'sbeen to a lot of wrestling
events.
(10:18):
I did not know.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, I've seen him at wrestling event, but I
thought they were just randomcelebrities.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
A lot of rappers are wrestling fans.
Yeah, a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
How is that a common thing in rappers?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's just how well.
Just a lot of musicians ingeneral, A lot of people you see
after wrestling, are actualfans.
There are a few who are justthere for publicity or whatever,
I feel like people like PatrickMahomes.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You think they're wrestling fans.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, Sebastian, like I said, a lot of people who
show up are fans.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I just thought they just pull random celebrities.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Or their kids are fans, they're taking their kids
there.
Almost everybody watchedwrestling growing up.
It's just some people like mestayed and watched it until
adulthood.
A lot of people stopped watchingit until their teenage years,
for whatever reason.
Some of these athletes may dothe same thing as he got into
adulthood.
Yeah, you know a lot of peoplestop watching it to get to a
teenage year for whatever reason, but so some of these athletes
may do the same thing Watch itwhenever kids stop watching it
and they have kids or kids isinto it, and then they're back
(11:12):
into it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So, but yeah, whatever the case is, I'm just
I'm kind of curious.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, that's gonna be especially on netflix yeah, but
for another match on the actualcard, it's live more.
Give us rhea ripley for thewomen's world championship and
for this one, I think it's likeum, it's of course gonna be a
good match.
I think something's like it'sof course going to be a good
match.
(11:44):
I think something's going tohappen with the Judgment Day
today, whether it's likesplitting up or just something
big for the Judgment Day.
But Rhea Ripley, like I feellike she's obvious, unless
they're going to like, say thisto a Royal Rumble, which I
really hope they don't do but Ifeel like Rhea Ripley's going to
win, like that's in my opinion.
(12:05):
But I feel like Dominic has tointerfere a little bit, right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Maybe I mean, and don't we also?
I don't know what's gonnahappen this match, but I mean I
think real rib is gonna win.
But at the same time you alsohave the uh transfer, transfer
portal going on right now.
So somebody from Smackdowncould come, some girl from
Smackdown could come over andinterfere in the match too,
somebody we don't even thinkabout.
You know what I mean.
Like, I like the thing aboutthe transfer portal right now we
(12:37):
don't know who can show up onany show.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I mean, and I don't know if you watched NXT you saw
NXT this past week, oh yeah, joe.
Hendry was on there.
He said he can show up at anytime on any show.
Yeah so who's saying he's notgoing to show up on Netflix?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Okay, he's definitely going to show up.
But we Anytime any show, anyplace, any show.
Why would somebody say his name, though?
How could Roman Reigns just sayoh yeah, there's this guy, joe
Hedger?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, no, he can just pop up, because remember, when
he made his debut at NXT, nobodysaid his name.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He just showed up, and then they started saying it
you sure nobody said Joe's name.
I don't remember I mean I canbe wrong remember anybody saying
his name when the and duringthe uh battle royal and he just
kind of popped up and peoplewere surprised.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Oh yeah, I know, I don't think it's about a rail.
People have.
People have signs that say hisname, and why did everybody dump
him out?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
though that was unreasonable because he got the
biggest.
You always do that to thebattle royal.
You always have the biggest,the person who could win out
first what?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
so that's why they all attack john cena.
Yeah, that was heels andbabyface.
Exactly that's unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You get the biggest threat out first.
That way you don't have toworry about it no more.
Yeah, if everybody team up,just like Andre and John,
anytime you have a Andre andJohn, a big show, a Omos,
anybody like that get up thering first.
Large human being, you get themout first, because the less
(14:00):
people in the match, the more ofa chance the big guy has.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Because if he comes on a one, good luck trying to
get a 400-pound guy out the ringwhen you're only 200 pounds.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I could be wrong because I'm very young.
If you didn't know, but thereason why they call Andre the
Giant Battle Royale Andre theGiant was winning so many of the
Battle Royales.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Pretty much Okay.
Yeah, he won.
I think he's unofficially wonthe most Battle Royales in
history.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
What do you mean unofficially, if he's done it?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, just like Ric Flair has the most unofficial
world championships, we countall his championships.
Oh, okay, there will be only 16of them.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, we count all the championships.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh okay, there'll be only 16 of them.
But Ric Flair said he has over30 of them.
So in Ric Flair's mind he has a30-time world champion, but
there'll be only 16 of them.
It wasn't like a main cup likeit is now.
There was a difference.
So the South had their own,florida had their own, georgia,
memphis had theirs, midwestCalifornia, people like New York
People had their own differentterritories and they had their
(15:03):
own champion.
Yeah, but the NWA was kind ofrecognized by all of them as
being the world champion, which?
is a lot of the ones Ric Flairwon before he came to WCW.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, Wait, he went to WCW first.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, before he came to WCW.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh, I thought he went to.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
WWE and then went to WCW first.
Yeah, before he came to WWE.
Oh, I thought he went to WWEand then when WCW came, no, he
was in NWA first and then NWAended up getting.
Nwa was still around and thenTNA came and they got the NWA
belts, merged the TNA belts andthen NWA went out of business
and they came back a few yearsago.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So yeah, so, yeah, like other people from other
companies could come like well,like joe, like we were talking
about joe hendry, yeah, uh, butin the match interfering, I
don't think anybody's gonnainterfere from another brand
like joe hendry.
I feel like those type ofpeople will come, but I don't
think that anybody will go infear in any of the matches
(15:59):
besides like people like therock or like of that type of
people.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, little Morgan and Maria Ripley.
I mean, obviously we know Domis going to get involved.
Uh, I mean we know DanielPriest is probably going to get
involved.
Yeah, maybe Finn Balor.
I don't know how that dynamicis going right now between him
and little Morgan Kind ofsomething.
They're kind of a little rockyright now.
I mean, you know Raquel's goingto probably get involved more
than likely.
So we know there's going to besome involvement in that match.
(16:27):
How far it goes, I don't knowthat, but we'll see how that one
plays out.
But that one should be a prettygood match too, though, if they
let them wrestle.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
But another thing about thisshow logan paul and I.
One thing about logan paul thatI'm scared of.
It's not anything to do withlogan paul.
I feel like they're gonna bedoing throwing lynch land prime
(16:58):
at him.
I, him, I'm not going to joke.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
There's going to be one person that chucks at
Lunchley at the back of his head.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Here's the business side of Logan Paul.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
What do you mean?
Business side?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
If they're throwing Prime and Lunchley at him and
all that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
They have to buy it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
They have to buy it first, to buy it first.
So you still bought it.
You can do.
You can do whatever you want toafter you buy it, but you
bought it yeah you've alreadypaid money for it, so it's
already in my pocket.
Yeah, so you can throw them allall day at me.
You're just throwing money backat me.
You still bought.
You still go to a store and buyyeah you still go to go to the
(17:38):
gas station or wherever and getthe prime I mean.
So you still got to go buy it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Unless you get it for free.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I don't think you would get it for free, unless
you're like a green shirt guy orsomeone like that.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Exactly so.
If anybody starts doing that,then they've already paid for it
, so why let them all get mad atit?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, you've already paid for them.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Mm-hmm, it doesn't hurt him at all.
You're actually helping him byit, because you're actually
showing him, you're buying hisstuff.
Yeah, that's fair, I mean,that's how I would feel anyways.
You know, if I had my own drinkcompany and somebody would
throw my own drink at me, okay,cool, still have a way of doing
it.
Bought it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean, and if you don't want to hear is nothing,
oh yeah, like you want to hearcheers or boos.
Like the crowd's silent.
If you come out and the crowdis silent, that means you're not
reaching them good or bad.
(18:32):
It means they're just thinkingthat would be bothered by you.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So if they're booing you like the Dominic or the New
Day, then you're doing somethingright because they're booing
you for a reason.
Or if they're cheering you,they're cheering you for a
reason.
If you're not doing anything,you don't want to come out and
you hear nothing.
If you come out and you hearpeople talking, yelling at you,
something's not going on theright.
(18:56):
They're not connecting in somekind of way.
Yelling is considered booing.
No, I'm saying like If you'recoming out, you can hear
individual people Yelling at you, like word for word what
they're saying to you Whileyou're walking out, but like one
time that happened to RomanReigns and I was surprised, like
there was this one lady who waslike Well, she was probably
Right by the camera, so I don'tknow if I feel like in a crowd,
(19:17):
like yelling.
A lot of times you just hear acrowd, it just sounds like
people yelling.
You can't really make it out.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
A lot of times Like you, can make out a certain
individual.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Exactly, but if the crowd is silent, you can hear a
lot more as far as peopleyelling at you and saying stuff
to you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I've seen that happen to somebody, but I forgot who
it was.
It was like somebody who, like,had an insult to them.
(19:52):
I forgot.
I forgot what it was, but youcould like very much hear it.
Oh yeah, I'm not sure, but yeah, um, so, uh, for another match,
it's um roman rings versus solosakoa for in tribal combat for
the una falla, and um tribalcombat for what happened with
Jay and Roman last year.
That was yeah last year.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Last year yeah or before.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Wait, no, yeah, technically the year before now.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, 23?
.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, so technically the year?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Was it 23?
Yeah, it was 23.
Okay, wait, is it 2023?
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Wait, summerslam, it was SummerSlam.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
In Nashville Was Brock Lesnar there?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Brock Lesnar no, he wasn't.
No, no, no, he wasn't there.
No, yeah, he wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So it wasn't last year.
So yeah, it was the 23rd.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, 23.
Mm-hmm, yeah, not last year's.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Right, yeah, last year's.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
SummerSlam or Remains .
What are you in there?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Wait in 24, he wasn't back yet.
Was he?
No wait, no, he returned it.
Yeah, he would turn.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
He returned at this year that at last year's summer
sleep okay, so it's some timebefore that.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
so 23, okay, and um so uh.
But yeah, what happened in 2023with jay uso and roman reigns
in tribal combat souls?
It was just ended up being aone versus two, and that's not
From my understanding of tribalcombat.
That's not tribal combat,that's just beating somebody up
with somebody else.
I thought tribal combat wasone-on-one.
(21:13):
It's supposed to be a deathmatch, but you can't do a death
match in actual wrestling.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So, with that being said, you think it's going to be
the same way.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Somebody interferes or it's gonna be a one-on-one
match.
I really hope that they don'tdo that.
I hope there's like an actual,because last year, I feel like
it was, it was pretty clear-cutwho was gonna win, roman reigns
gonna retain, yeah, but thisyear is no.
It's for like no type of title,it's just for the una falla
it's the tribal chief, the headof the table yeah, I mean that's
that's.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
That's enough of a championship for them.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
No, I'm saying it's not for a title that Roman
Reigns has, or something likethat.
I got you.
I feel like it could go eitherway.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
But we know Jimmy Uso's going to probably be there
.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Sami Zayn's probably going to be there.
We know the Bloodline's goingto be there, jacob and all of
them.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I just really hope that this is an actual tribal
combat.
They haven't let them havetribal combat.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do we get a new Bloodline member or just a new
Samoan that comes out?
We know it's a few of them.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You don't get any.
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I personally don't think so.
It could go either way, but Ijust don't see, especially after
Survivor Series I don't see whythey would pull somebody else
out, unless they were lookingfor five, like they did with
Bronson Reed.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, I don't know when Bronson Reed's gone.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Tonga Lowe's out what even happened to Tonga Lowe?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Someone with his arm going to match.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Is uh someone with his arm doing a match?
Someone is that when he gotwait.
Was that tom?
Was that tonga tong?
Why not tama tanga who gotthrown the table?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I think that was yeah I'm saying, but I think
tangaloa got hurt in that match.
Something happened with his armand he tore a muscle or
something.
How yeah tore a bicep orsomething.
That during that match samewith simple last year, roy
rumble yeah he tore back hismuscles.
The back is almost aity, Ithink.
Talk a little toward the, thebicycle.
Yeah the front part, the toppart right here, and then
(23:08):
Bronson Reed I think Brooke isankle.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, so the big deal he's gonna probably be out to
WrestleMania at least.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I don't that does like.
That's crazy how three peoplegot injured.
That's a dangerous man's right.
That's crazy how three peoplegot injured.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's a dangerous match.
That's a dangerous match, Imean that match is.
There's a reason why theydidn't do that match for almost
30 years.
There's a reason, becausethat's a dangerous match.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You think Raw versus SmackDown will ever come back?
They kind of did no, yeah, theykind of did Raw no, not as long
as they got the WarGames.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I mean they kind of did.
I mean, not as long as they gotthe war games, I mean they may
bring it back eventually, but aslong as they got war games it's
no need to.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
They could do Raw versus SmackDown war games.
That could work.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
They could do Raw versus team, but you have to
have a reason for it.
War games you have to have areason for it.
That's like a big-time rivalrymatch.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, but I just want to see Nick Aldis' team versus
Adam Pearce's team.
That's all I want to see.
It doesn't have to be asurvivor's team, I just want to
see that.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's all I want to see, but but yeah, so does Tariq
get involved in that match?
Oh, I mean he's going to bethere.
He said he's going to be thereSunday night.
He posted that he was going tobe there.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
So does he interfere in this match or does he wait
until the end of the match?
And I mean, cody, you knoweverybody's been talking about
Roman Reigns versus the Rock.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, it was supposed to happen at WrestleMania last
year until Cody pulled the wholeswitcheroo.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
No, not.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Cody.
Well remember, Cody got mad andtook his spot back.
No, that was the.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Cody.
The Cody Crybabies were whatthe Rock calls the Cody.
Crybabies, they were way beforeCody Rose got mad.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, it wasn't Remember it was.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That kickoff show for WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
What?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's when he got.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
It was on SmackDown.
Remember when he came out andhe said I'm not gonna.
We're gonna wrestle, but it'snot gonna be at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, no, I know that .
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And he said I had to talk with somebody, and then the
Rock's music hit.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, someone you know very well.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah then, boom Rock was hit.
That was when Cody Rose a spotup.
Then the whole people got madabout it on social media and
stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That was before Cody Rhodes got mad.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I know they were saying the people online got mad
about it right yeah, andstarted talking about why did
Cody Rhodes give a spot up?
You know all this stuff.
And then on the kickoff show,that's when Roman Reigns and the
Rock came out and did thehandshake.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And then Cody Rhodes came out and said nah, we ain't
doing this.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And then everybody cheered because they were like
alright, and that's how he tookthe spot back.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
He was a Royal Rumble winner, so he got to choose.
That's what he chose.
Instead of giving it to theRock, he chose to take his shot
at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And one thing I think that I could be wrong.
I could be wrong on this, but Ithink that I could be wrong.
I could be wrong on this, but Ithink the Rock taking Cody
Rhodes' spot was either the mostdisliked video on YouTube or on
WWE's account.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's what I'm saying.
So they've been teasing thatfor a while now.
I mean even the year beforethat they were teasing the Rock
coming back, but the Rock nevercame back.
So this year the Rock's there.
Are they going to finally pulla trigger with the rock versus
roman reigns?
Oh, I think so.
I mean so they do that.
Are they gonna start to build?
They already started up a badblow and rock came out after the
match but what?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
the one, two, three, that wouldn't that make sense
for survivor series?
No but one, two, three orwhatever, I think.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I think the rock's situation was similar to cody
rose.
The rock was like me and youtalking about Roman.
Reigns and the Rock teamed upto beat down Cody Rhodes and
Seth Rollins.
We spent a couple of monthsleading up to this Heck.
(26:59):
The Rock beat Cody Rhodes upoutside, left him leaking
outside.
I mean, beat him down Right,right, left the leaking outside
in the rain and you go and teamup with them.
Yeah y'all are all buddy, buddy, and you see my will.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The guy who beat you for the bill, yeah and yeah, and
you team up the guy.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So, wow, wow, what we doing what we doing here, just
like it's, like you know what'slike everybody's problem.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's almost so.
Those problems like what wedoing, what are we doing here?
It's like Kevin Owens thing.
That's everybody's problem.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
That's almost Solo's problem too.
What are we doing?
Why are you teaming with a guyyou spent two years trying to
beat?
Now you're teaming up with him.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You know that almost makes Solo look like a good guy
facing Roman Reigns, but yeah,but yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So that's why I think he comes out post-match.
Yeah, post-match he probablycomes out for sure.
He for sure comes outpost-match and Bloodline gets
interferes.
I mean I think Solo's going towin this match.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh yeah, no, I want Solo to win, but I don't think
he's going to win.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Because there's rumors talking about Roman
Reigns is going to stay on Raw.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh, yeah, I think that's true.
Wait, no.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
If Roman Reigns stays on Raw.
I hope he doesn't, because butthat would be a good way for him
to lose and he can't stay onSmackDown anymore If he loses
the match.
He can't be a tribal chiefbecause he has to hit a dollar
solo every week on SmackDown,week on SmackDown.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So the best way for him, to get away from him, is
Kota Raw, mm-hmm.
So.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
What do you have to acknowledge him every week,
though?
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
so it's going to make him do it.
He'll make him do it because helost the match.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, that's fair, he'll have to.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's just part of the lost Survivor Series, but it
wasn.
Whoever wins this match isconsidered a tribal chief,
because it's like Jey Uso whenhim and Roman Reigns fall.
Whoever won that match is goingto be a tribal chief, the head
of the table, the one peopleacknowledge.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know.
So Roman loses his match, he'sgoing to have to stay on Raw
because otherwise he's going tohave to acknowledge Solo every
time Solo comes out, going tothrow the ones up.
Yeah, At least on Raw he cankind of, like Jey Uso did, get
away from all that and kind ofdo his own thing and plus, it's
been on Netflix, remains, Ithink, does better on Netflix.
It brings more eyes to Netflixtoo.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah.
You know, but yeah, but for themain event, it's Sam Punk
versus Seth Rollins, and I thinkI know it's very early into the
(29:29):
year, but it depends on howgood this match is.
I feel like this is a potentialbest match of the year if they
go that far and how good theother matches of the like, how
good the other best matches ofthe year are.
But I feel like this could beone of the best matches of the
(29:50):
year it could be if they justlet them like go out there and
have a match.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Here's the good thing , though or possibly good thing
about Netflix Netflix isn'tcable, so you could have a
return of blood they alreadyreturned to.
Yeah, but I mean like back inthe Attitude Era.
I don't think they're going togo back, but this match could
have that, though, because thisis a grudge match, uh-huh.
You know, seth Rollins, thewhole promo when they were
(30:15):
spitting fire at each other lastweek on Raw, I mean, that was
personal.
That was 10 years offrustration built up you know
what would be good.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I feel like.
I feel like they like kinda didthis like a little bit,
wouldn't like like it fully, butI feel like they let them say
like a lot like personal, likeactual personal stuff, and then
pull their back a little,because if they said personal
stuff it would be like way toomuch for.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But if you remember, technically cm punk brought the
shield up right because he andthey interfere.
They interfere with the cm punkand roback match to shield
debut in that match yeah, butwhen do you say that?
Because technically people weresaying that cm punk brought
them up to interfere in thatmatch, like it could be robin by
itself.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It's just like 10 plus years ago I thought, but he
, but he didn't on like a randomsmack, that he said I never
blah blah.
I know he didn't on a randomsmack that.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He said I never blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, I know he didn't.
That's the original peoplesaying that.
He did, though, because hecouldn't be right back by
himself, so he brought them upto take him out and win.
So now CM Punk left.
It wasn't because he left, itwas the way he left, it was what
he said when he left, it waswhat he did when he left.
It didn't work out there.
(31:27):
Now he's back there to be, andSeth Rollins was like welcome
back.
We don't want you here, butwelcome back.
And then Seth Rollins was therethe whole time and Seth Rollins
never left.
He got hurt, he got injured,you know.
He got messed up back, blew hisknee out.
All this in the same time.
Cm Punk was at home watching itwhile they were on TV.
He wasn't even there.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
You know what I'm glad happened when Seth Rollins
was doing all this to make surethe body parts and stuff were
good.
I'm glad he didn't get hurtdoing that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's healthy, he's good now he's not hurting
anymore.
I'm just saying Sam Pong wasmentioning all his injuries that
he had.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
What about the inside ?
I know Bronson Reed, but wouldthey really like insides pop out
?
I don't think your insides, Idon't think your insides would
hurt if you took a tsunami.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
No, you can get internal bleeding, internal
injuries.
Yeah, you can get internalinjuries.
Yeah, you can get hit in thestomach at the wrong time.
Yeah, you can get hurt.
So a lot of times you see thoseguys bleeding from the mouth
when they get hit in the stomach.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's just internal bleeding, that's the worst kind,
this actual blood.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But I'm just saying, if you hit somebody hard up in
their stomach they can spit upblood Right.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That's the worst kind , because you don't know what's
going on.
At least, if you get cutsomewhere on the outside of your
body, you can see, okay, I got.
You cough up blood.
You don't know where it'scoming from, so you don't know
what's going on inside becauseyou can't see it.
So yeah, I mean that's what CMPunk was talking about.
If you get tsunami like thatenough, you can have internal
injuries.
(32:57):
Did it say internal injuries?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, that's why you don't know if the guys have
bandages on and all that,because they're just trying to
protect.
But for my favorite thing well,not my favorite thing, but like
one of my favorite things onthe show Michael Cole versus Pat
McAfee and Pat McAfee returningto commentating on Raw ever
(33:23):
since Pat McAfee left tocommentate football.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, college football.
And that's pretty much wherethey got, like I think next week
, and then they're done withfootball for a few months.
Yeah, college football, andthat's pretty much where they
got, like I think, next week,and then we got to their demo
football for a few months, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
College football, so he's not going to be
commentating those.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Well, he might be doing the one next week, but it
won't be on Monday though.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So he can always fly wherever it's going to be at and
then fly back.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Wait, so was it.
So were those on Monday, onMonday.
Those were on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
So, but he was traveling though, and you can't,
it was just too much to betrying to do boom, boom too much
.
Plus, he had a newborn baby.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
How did he do the Royal Rumble and stuff like that
?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's just the one time.
He just came there and he flewin.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Plus Royal Rumble, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
You think he?
Flew out, he was on comment.
No, he was on comment, yeahprobably because he was.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, roy Rumble was on a Saturday and he left that
morning.
He went to a football game thatmorning and then, well, he's in
the same city.
It was the same city.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's why it was the same city oh, okay, that's why
it was the same city.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, I was figuring like at college game day.
The Rock was down there too,and he showed up on Smackdown or
something that same day.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
When was that that?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
same day, whatever that show was that day one Raw.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Something like that or whatever it was.
He showed up too after he wason TV earlier in the day.
But yeah, the only thing Idon't like about the Raw Netflix
is they took off the uh women'sintercontinental finals oh yeah
, like I, I don't know why theywould delay that.
That's a big thing they, fromwhat I was hearing they say,
(34:59):
took it off because they didn'twant it to be overshadowed by
everything else going on.
So they moved.
They moved it to either nextweek or the roar room.
I don't know when they move itto, I'm not sure I don't think
something like that will beovershadowed.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The Rock.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
John Cena, Michael Cole, Pat McAfee.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
But then there's also Jey Uso and Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That's what I'm saying.
But what I'm saying is thatmatch.
You can put that match on andthis is a match.
But the first ever Women'sintercontinental championship
needs more than what they.
They want, like a Chelsea Greentype of thing, where it's a big
deal and they don't think itcould be.
It could be overshadowed byeverything else going on.
I mean Roman Reigns, solo, theRock, cm Punk, seth Rollins, liv
(35:44):
Morgan, rhea Ripley, travisScott, john Cena, logan Paul all
these people showing up and whoknows who else might show up.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
There's talks of other legends showing up
throughout the night.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I got caught off guard when you say Travis Scott,
because you were just listeningoff Razzlers.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I know, I'm just saying it's just people, all the
people showing up, plus therumor of other Razzlers showing
up, other legends showing up,who?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
knows, I don't want to see them.
The Undertaker might show up.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Who knows?
This is the first time ever onNetflix, so who knows?
It's just three hours and theycan run over.
It's not a set time for Netflix.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
You know they actually ran over on SmackDown.
They ran over a couple minutes.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
They can run over on Netflix too, because Netflix is
live, I feel like they will dothat.
There's something that comes on.
After that goes off, it's time,with another show coming on at
11.
They can run until 12.
They want to never do that, butthey can run as long as they
want to.
So they run five ten minutesover.
They run five ten minutes over,that's just all it is.
(36:37):
But yeah, I see why they movedit because you don't want to be
overshadowed.
You don't want the first everWomen's Intercontinental
Championship than the UnitedStates Championship For the
women.
We'll see who wins.
I like Dakota Kai for that.
(36:59):
I picked her to win theoriginal and I saw the brackets.
That's who I got winning.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I thought it was going to be Io Sky and Dakota
Kai.
Yeah, I'm so glad Io Sky isprobably my favorite women's
wrestler probably ever honestlybut I just did not want her to
see.
Um, I don't want to see herbeat lyra valkyria and, and even
worse, uh, be theintercontinental champion, the
(37:26):
women's intercontinental.
I know you have to have likethat big, like megastar to start
off as champion, but also Ifeel like you should have
someone who doesn't have thatmany WWE championships or
someone who doesn't have any.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Except Tag maybe.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, I got you, but yeah, this should be a pretty
good match I mean pretty goodcard all the way around.
They're treating it like apremium live event.
This is like a premium liveevent 2.0.
Yeah, what it seemed like.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's like WrestleMania Zero.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, I mean this is a premium live event, what it
looks like.
I mean they're treating it likeone.
Roman Reigns is on there.
He hardly ever wrestles onregular TV, so he go Well, yeah,
he's hardly ever.
He's only pretty live in mostly.
That's it Pretty much he mostlyshe shows up sometimes.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
The tribal chief thing has he wrestled?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I'm sure he has, but I can't remember it though.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, oh, matt Riddle , yeah, stuff like that, montez
Ward yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
But um.
So tune in Monday night onNetflix and we'll see how
everything goes with Netflix onwith raw Netflix and see, kind
of, if they change the conceptor anything like that.
So I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
And the episode of Tag Team Talk.
welcome to the ben and bash podcast tag team talk
I'm ben, I'm bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the ben
and bash podcast tag team talkall right, we're going to do a
preview for the first ever rawon netflix.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's the end of an era on USA and the beginning of
a new era on Netflix.
I think they might have changedonce before in somewhere in the
2000s to I think it was SpikeTV or TNN or something like that
.
I remember changing once fromUSA to another show, but they've
always been on cable.
So this is the first time thatRaw is now on cable and since
(00:44):
they first debuted in, I think94, I think it was.
So, uh, let's get to it okay.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So for the first match, it's drew mcintyre versus
j uso and for this match, I wasvery surprised that a match of
this type was gonna be on a show, this like big I guess.
But like, I feel like thismatch is just to make the card a
little bit bigger.
(01:11):
Like the card and the matchmakes sense.
I'm just saying like I feellike if they had a like our four
matches anyways, I don't thinkthis match would be on the card.
But so, yeah, but this match, Ithink it's going to be good.
I feel like I'm pretty sureit's going to be the opener,
because there's just too big ofmatches on the card for this to
(01:34):
not be the opener let's say wewant to start opening over the
banker.
Like to do Premier League eventsbecause I know what they're
about to do.
If they do it like that, I knowwhat they're going to do CM
Punk vs Seth Rollins.
I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's the main event .
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Tribal Combat.
I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
They might start with Lil Morgan Real quick, they
probably will.
Or it could be Tribal Combat.
Because it's the first episode,go ahead and start it off early
by getting people tuned in.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You first.
You think the Rock's going tobe in the opener.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Why wouldn't he?
He wouldn't have come into that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That's the only reason the tag team match was on
the main event in Babluckbecause the Rock was coming, of
course, either way CM Punk andJ-Roc but you got to understand
too, though.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
This is the first show on Netflix, Right yeah, so
you want to get the eyes onthere.
So if social media is goingcrazy, saying the rock's here,
the rock's here, everybody'stuning in to Netflix Boom.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
They shouldn't do this because of that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's how the media works, man.
You want people to tune in.
So you start off with RomanReigns and Solo and people say,
oh, roman Reigns started amatch-off.
We got to watch it because rockmay interfere or he might come
out.
So now you got people watchingwho may have been like I'll wait
till later on, I don't want tosee the beginning of it.
You know what I mean.
So now you got people tuning inoff the top at eight o'clock on
(02:55):
the dot because Roman Reignsand Solo started a match off.
So maybe they're doing it thatway.
I don't know.
That's what I'm thinking.
Maybe they start with a bangerand get people tuned in because
it's the first episode.
You want people to the mainthing about a TV show.
You want people to tune in andstay tuned in the entire time.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You know.
So that's what it may do, andthen start off there, keep it
going.
John Cena comes out, boom.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I wonder what John Cena's going to talk about.
Oh no, I know what he's goingto, you see?
No, there is going to be fivematches on the card, because you
know what I'm going to predict.
What's that?
Open Challenge?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
John Cena yes.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
A thousand percent.
I couldn't be more confident.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So you think John Cena's going to be there?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I have a lot of predictions in wrestling but I
feel like this is the mostconfident I could ever be for a
prediction he's gonna I'm like99.9.
I'm not gonna even say thatamount of nines, but I'm just
I'm so confident, I'm soconfident I would bet so much
money.
But I'm not going to.
But I'm pretty sure John Cena'sgonna do be an open challenge.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I don't know.
I mean to be there.
They showed his picture lastweek.
They've been doing his music.
He's going to be there.
We know that.
What is he going to do?
This is his last year wrestling.
This is his last year.
This is his first day of thelast year of wrestling.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You know it would be crazy, but I know this is not
going to happen.
If he didn't open challenge andPenta came out, I know that's
not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That's all I'm going to ask you about.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I feel like John Cena has to win his first match and
Penta has to win his first matchPenta is going to be on Raw
right.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I can't remember if it was on Raw or SmackDown oh no
it was on Raw.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I want to say Raw.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I want to say Raw they showed the picture of the
mouth and the mask and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
The mouth.
When was that?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Last week it was like when they showed the outline of
it and it showed like thelittle teeth.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh, yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So that was on Raw right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So that's on Raw.
He's going to debut.
He's going to debut today.
I wonder if they.
Well, that's next week.
The um, the Xavier Woods, coveKingston versus Raven Stereo.
That's next week, right yeahokay, so maybe they won't debut.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I really want.
Oh, sorry go ahead.
I really don't want them to seePenta like turn, like I don't
want.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I don't want to see a baby face Penta well see, I
don't want, I don't want Pentato be joined up with Remy Zero,
just like it did Dragon Elite.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Oh, like with the LW yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean I get through all those doors, but let them be
separate you know, like youdon't have to put all of them in
the same group.
Yeah, It'd be like puttingeverybody from England in the
same group together.
I mean yeah, you could do that,but why?
So you can do Penta by himself?
Leave him out of the LWO,Because it seems like every
Hispanic wrestler comes in, theyput him in the LWO.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I like the LWO, I remember the original LWO with
Eddie Guerrero and them guys,but it's like cool.
But Penta has done enough onhis own in AEW in Mexico, lucha,
underground, all that kind ofstuff, to where he can, he can
be on his own and you know.
Then obviously you know he gothis brother coming up next too.
(06:11):
I mean Ray Fiend.
Once he gets out of hiscontract with AEW he's gonna be
there you know, you know howthey could.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
They could have him team with Ray Mysterio and still
be heel what's that?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
have him, his brother Bell rings bang Punch to Rey.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Mysterio done.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Out of there, but that wouldn't help out Xavier
Wilson and Colton Kingstonthough.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's Penta I mean that's the point.
You want Xavier Wilson andColton Kingston to get booed, so
you don't want to take thespotlight off them.
They built this whole thing up,with them talking about Big E
and all that just for them toget upstaged by a debut in
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You don't want them to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But what I'm saying is you know ray finks is coming.
Yeah, will they keep the samename?
I don't know if they're gonnakeep the same name, penta.
I don't think they can do thatI mean, I think they can, they
should be able to.
They can't, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I mean does aw do that same thing as wwe?
Uh, jay cargill, well, that washer name before.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That's her name before aw.
Oh so I don't.
I don't think AEW owns theright to her name.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
CM, oh, never mind.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
CM Punk.
That's his name before WWE yeah.
I already knew Before he cameto WWE.
That was his name in Ring ofHonor, so that was his name
before he came to WWE originally.
Yeah, I think he was one of thefirst ones I can remember that
came to WWE and kept his name.
Yeah, this was back in when ECWwas a brand wait wait, he's the
(07:27):
major on how well I know that,like I actually was a world
champion ECW.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I didn't know that was a world champ.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I thought I was just a side title from the BW nice it
was a used to have a stupidbrass for CM Punk debut, though
the first my scene CM Punkanyways, outside of Rick Arnaut
was in ECW yeah and so he keptthe same name.
That's how I knew who he was.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, I thought the title that Bobby Lashley had was
just like a like a like anintercontinental title.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
No, he was ECW world champion.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I was surprised they'd give it to him, like I
thought it was given to, likeRod Van Dam or something like
that Well to be.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We saw it's not ECW's title, no, but he had ECW title
already.
Though, yeah, when he's the badass had their own, their own
company, he's W shit, you know.
But but yeah, like I said, johnCena, I think he's gonna be
there.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Obviously, what is he gonna do, don't know and also
another thing um Travis Scott isdebuting a new um theme song,
for I think yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know if I've even heard the song already.
I don't know if it's a new song, I'm not interested in the song
.
But I'm saying like I don'tknow if it's a new song or I'm
sure it's a new song.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Why would he just put a random song?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, it could be one of his old songs they're using
as the intro.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I don using that as the intro.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't want that, though, but I don't know that
though, so I have no idea.
I haven't.
I mean, I probably heard it,just knew a travis scott song.
So I don't really know ifthey're gonna do like a new song
, like a brand new original song, just for raw, or are they
gonna do one of travis scott'salready released songs or album
songs and make it the intro?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
if they're one of the old ones, I don't even know.
I I know like one travis scScott song I think it's.
Travis Scott.
I don't even know who's Travis.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Scott, you can do like it's like the Premier Live
Events.
Use people's songs.
They don't make songs, just forthose Premier Live Events they
use people already.
They use music from like 20-30years ago, sometimes Premier
Live Events some of those songsfrom Premier Live Events Ozzy
Osbourne, you know Metallica andstuff you know.
So they make songs from likeway back and they'll re, you
(09:27):
know they'll re re-release themor reuse them and make them the
theme to Prim Live man.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I don't see why they would announce that, though
cause he's performing.
I I mean, I like Travis Scott.
He's one of my favorite singers, but I really don't care.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But see, but this is what I'm saying, but you don't
care A lot of people like TravisScott he's one of the highest.
I do like Travis Scott.
That's what I'm saying.
So don't say you don't care,because a lot of people do, and
he's going to probably open upRaw because it's his song.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
His song is the theme song, so they performing in the
beginning, yeah, before anybodycomes out, you know.
But yeah, I mean I'm kind ofcurious to see what song he uses
.
If it's going to be a brand new, I'd rather hear a brand new
song from Travis Scott that hassomething to do with Raw and
wrestling.
He's a wrestling fan.
Yeah, Wait, he is yeah he'sbeen to a lot of wrestling
events.
(10:18):
I did not know.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, I've seen him at wrestling event, but I
thought they were just randomcelebrities.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
A lot of rappers are wrestling fans.
Yeah, a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
How is that a common thing in rappers?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's just how well.
Just a lot of musicians ingeneral, A lot of people you see
after wrestling, are actualfans.
There are a few who are justthere for publicity or whatever,
I feel like people like PatrickMahomes.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You think they're wrestling fans.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, Sebastian, like I said, a lot of people who
show up are fans.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I just thought they just pull random celebrities.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Or their kids are fans, they're taking their kids
there.
Almost everybody watchedwrestling growing up.
It's just some people like mestayed and watched it until
adulthood.
A lot of people stopped watchingit until their teenage years,
for whatever reason.
Some of these athletes may dothe same thing as he got into
adulthood.
Yeah, you know a lot of peoplestop watching it to get to a
teenage year for whatever reason, but so some of these athletes
may do the same thing Watch itwhenever kids stop watching it
and they have kids or kids isinto it, and then they're back
(11:12):
into it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So, but yeah, whatever the case is, I'm just
I'm kind of curious.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, that's gonna be especially on netflix yeah, but
for another match on the actualcard, it's live more.
Give us rhea ripley for thewomen's world championship and
for this one, I think it's likeum, it's of course gonna be a
good match.
I think something's like it'sof course going to be a good
match.
(11:44):
I think something's going tohappen with the Judgment Day
today, whether it's likesplitting up or just something
big for the Judgment Day.
But Rhea Ripley, like I feellike she's obvious, unless
they're going to like, say thisto a Royal Rumble, which I
really hope they don't do but Ifeel like Rhea Ripley's going to
win, like that's in my opinion.
(12:05):
But I feel like Dominic has tointerfere a little bit, right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Maybe I mean, and don't we also?
I don't know what's gonnahappen this match, but I mean I
think real rib is gonna win.
But at the same time you alsohave the uh transfer, transfer
portal going on right now.
So somebody from Smackdowncould come, some girl from
Smackdown could come over andinterfere in the match too,
somebody we don't even thinkabout.
You know what I mean.
Like, I like the thing aboutthe transfer portal right now we
(12:37):
don't know who can show up onany show.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I mean, and I don't know if you watched NXT you saw
NXT this past week, oh yeah, joe.
Hendry was on there.
He said he can show up at anytime on any show.
Yeah so who's saying he's notgoing to show up on Netflix?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Okay, he's definitely going to show up.
But we Anytime any show, anyplace, any show.
Why would somebody say his name, though?
How could Roman Reigns just sayoh yeah, there's this guy, joe
Hedger?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, no, he can just pop up, because remember, when
he made his debut at NXT, nobodysaid his name.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He just showed up, and then they started saying it
you sure nobody said Joe's name.
I don't remember I mean I canbe wrong remember anybody saying
his name when the and duringthe uh battle royal and he just
kind of popped up and peoplewere surprised.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Oh yeah, I know, I don't think it's about a rail.
People have.
People have signs that say hisname, and why did everybody dump
him out?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
though that was unreasonable because he got the
biggest.
You always do that to thebattle royal.
You always have the biggest,the person who could win out
first what?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
so that's why they all attack john cena.
Yeah, that was heels andbabyface.
Exactly that's unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You get the biggest threat out first.
That way you don't have toworry about it no more.
Yeah, if everybody team up,just like Andre and John,
anytime you have a Andre andJohn, a big show, a Omos,
anybody like that get up thering first.
Large human being, you get themout first, because the less
(14:00):
people in the match, the more ofa chance the big guy has.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Because if he comes on a one, good luck trying to
get a 400-pound guy out the ringwhen you're only 200 pounds.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I could be wrong because I'm very young.
If you didn't know, but thereason why they call Andre the
Giant Battle Royale Andre theGiant was winning so many of the
Battle Royales.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Pretty much Okay.
Yeah, he won.
I think he's unofficially wonthe most Battle Royales in
history.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
What do you mean unofficially, if he's done it?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, just like Ric Flair has the most unofficial
world championships, we countall his championships.
Oh, okay, there will be only 16of them.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, we count all the championships.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh okay, there'll be only 16 of them.
But Ric Flair said he has over30 of them.
So in Ric Flair's mind he has a30-time world champion, but
there'll be only 16 of them.
It wasn't like a main cup likeit is now.
There was a difference.
So the South had their own,florida had their own, georgia,
memphis had theirs, midwestCalifornia, people like New York
People had their own differentterritories and they had their
(15:03):
own champion.
Yeah, but the NWA was kind ofrecognized by all of them as
being the world champion, which?
is a lot of the ones Ric Flairwon before he came to WCW.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, Wait, he went to WCW first.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, before he came to WCW.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh, I thought he went to.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
WWE and then went to WCW first.
Yeah, before he came to WWE.
Oh, I thought he went to WWEand then when WCW came, no, he
was in NWA first and then NWAended up getting.
Nwa was still around and thenTNA came and they got the NWA
belts, merged the TNA belts andthen NWA went out of business
and they came back a few yearsago.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So yeah, so, yeah, like other people from other
companies could come like well,like joe, like we were talking
about joe hendry, yeah, uh, butin the match interfering, I
don't think anybody's gonnainterfere from another brand
like joe hendry.
I feel like those type ofpeople will come, but I don't
think that anybody will go infear in any of the matches
(15:59):
besides like people like therock or like of that type of
people.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, little Morgan and Maria Ripley.
I mean, obviously we know Domis going to get involved.
Uh, I mean we know DanielPriest is probably going to get
involved.
Yeah, maybe Finn Balor.
I don't know how that dynamicis going right now between him
and little Morgan Kind ofsomething.
They're kind of a little rockyright now.
I mean, you know Raquel's goingto probably get involved more
than likely.
So we know there's going to besome involvement in that match.
(16:27):
How far it goes, I don't knowthat, but we'll see how that one
plays out.
But that one should be a prettygood match too, though, if they
let them wrestle.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
But another thing about thisshow logan paul and I.
One thing about logan paul thatI'm scared of.
It's not anything to do withlogan paul.
I feel like they're gonna bedoing throwing lynch land prime
(16:58):
at him.
I, him, I'm not going to joke.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
There's going to be one person that chucks at
Lunchley at the back of his head.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Here's the business side of Logan Paul.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
What do you mean?
Business side?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
If they're throwing Prime and Lunchley at him and
all that.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
They have to buy it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
They have to buy it first, to buy it first.
So you still bought it.
You can do.
You can do whatever you want toafter you buy it, but you
bought it yeah you've alreadypaid money for it, so it's
already in my pocket.
Yeah, so you can throw them allall day at me.
You're just throwing money backat me.
You still bought.
You still go to a store and buyyeah you still go to go to the
(17:38):
gas station or wherever and getthe prime I mean.
So you still got to go buy it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Unless you get it for free.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I don't think you would get it for free, unless
you're like a green shirt guy orsomeone like that.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Exactly so.
If anybody starts doing that,then they've already paid for it
, so why let them all get mad atit?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, you've already paid for them.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Mm-hmm, it doesn't hurt him at all.
You're actually helping him byit, because you're actually
showing him, you're buying hisstuff.
Yeah, that's fair, I mean,that's how I would feel anyways.
You know, if I had my own drinkcompany and somebody would
throw my own drink at me, okay,cool, still have a way of doing
it.
Bought it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean, and if you don't want to hear is nothing,
oh yeah, like you want to hearcheers or boos.
Like the crowd's silent.
If you come out and the crowdis silent, that means you're not
reaching them good or bad.
(18:32):
It means they're just thinkingthat would be bothered by you.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So if they're booing you like the Dominic or the New
Day, then you're doing somethingright because they're booing
you for a reason.
Or if they're cheering you,they're cheering you for a
reason.
If you're not doing anything,you don't want to come out and
you hear nothing.
If you come out and you hearpeople talking, yelling at you,
something's not going on theright.
(18:56):
They're not connecting in somekind of way.
Yelling is considered booing.
No, I'm saying like If you'recoming out, you can hear
individual people Yelling at you, like word for word what
they're saying to you Whileyou're walking out, but like one
time that happened to RomanReigns and I was surprised, like
there was this one lady who waslike Well, she was probably
Right by the camera, so I don'tknow if I feel like in a crowd,
(19:17):
like yelling.
A lot of times you just hear acrowd, it just sounds like
people yelling.
You can't really make it out.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
A lot of times Like you, can make out a certain
individual.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Exactly, but if the crowd is silent, you can hear a
lot more as far as peopleyelling at you and saying stuff
to you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I've seen that happen to somebody, but I forgot who
it was.
It was like somebody who, like,had an insult to them.
(19:52):
I forgot.
I forgot what it was, but youcould like very much hear it.
Oh yeah, I'm not sure, but yeah, um, so, uh, for another match,
it's um roman rings versus solosakoa for in tribal combat for
the una falla, and um tribalcombat for what happened with
Jay and Roman last year.
That was yeah last year.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Last year yeah or before.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Wait, no, yeah, technically the year before now.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, 23?
.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, so technically the year?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Was it 23?
Yeah, it was 23.
Okay, wait, is it 2023?
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Wait, summerslam, it was SummerSlam.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
In Nashville Was Brock Lesnar there?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Brock Lesnar no, he wasn't.
No, no, no, he wasn't there.
No, yeah, he wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So it wasn't last year.
So yeah, it was the 23rd.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, 23.
Mm-hmm, yeah, not last year's.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Right, yeah, last year's.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
SummerSlam or Remains .
What are you in there?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Wait in 24, he wasn't back yet.
Was he?
No wait, no, he returned it.
Yeah, he would turn.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
He returned at this year that at last year's summer
sleep okay, so it's some timebefore that.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
so 23, okay, and um so uh.
But yeah, what happened in 2023with jay uso and roman reigns
in tribal combat souls?
It was just ended up being aone versus two, and that's not
From my understanding of tribalcombat.
That's not tribal combat,that's just beating somebody up
with somebody else.
I thought tribal combat wasone-on-one.
(21:13):
It's supposed to be a deathmatch, but you can't do a death
match in actual wrestling.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So, with that being said, you think it's going to be
the same way.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Somebody interferes or it's gonna be a one-on-one
match.
I really hope that they don'tdo that.
I hope there's like an actual,because last year, I feel like
it was, it was pretty clear-cutwho was gonna win, roman reigns
gonna retain, yeah, but thisyear is no.
It's for like no type of title,it's just for the una falla
it's the tribal chief, the headof the table yeah, I mean that's
that's.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
That's enough of a championship for them.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
No, I'm saying it's not for a title that Roman
Reigns has, or something likethat.
I got you.
I feel like it could go eitherway.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
But we know Jimmy Uso's going to probably be there
.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Sami Zayn's probably going to be there.
We know the Bloodline's goingto be there, jacob and all of
them.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I just really hope that this is an actual tribal
combat.
They haven't let them havetribal combat.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do we get a new Bloodline member or just a new
Samoan that comes out?
We know it's a few of them.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You don't get any.
Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I personally don't think so.
It could go either way, but Ijust don't see, especially after
Survivor Series I don't see whythey would pull somebody else
out, unless they were lookingfor five, like they did with
Bronson Reed.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, I don't know when Bronson Reed's gone.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Tonga Lowe's out what even happened to Tonga Lowe?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Someone with his arm going to match.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Is uh someone with his arm doing a match?
Someone is that when he gotwait.
Was that tom?
Was that tonga tong?
Why not tama tanga who gotthrown the table?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I think that was yeah I'm saying, but I think
tangaloa got hurt in that match.
Something happened with his armand he tore a muscle or
something.
How yeah tore a bicep orsomething.
That during that match samewith simple last year, roy
rumble yeah he tore back hismuscles.
The back is almost aity, Ithink.
Talk a little toward the, thebicycle.
Yeah the front part, the toppart right here, and then
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Bronson Reed I think Brooke isankle.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, so the big deal he's gonna probably be out to
WrestleMania at least.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I don't that does like.
That's crazy how three peoplegot injured.
That's a dangerous man's right.
That's crazy how three peoplegot injured.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's a dangerous match.
That's a dangerous match, Imean that match is.
There's a reason why theydidn't do that match for almost
30 years.
There's a reason, becausethat's a dangerous match.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You think Raw versus SmackDown will ever come back?
They kind of did no, yeah, theykind of did Raw no, not as long
as they got the WarGames.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I mean they kind of did.
I mean, not as long as they gotthe war games, I mean they may
bring it back eventually, but aslong as they got war games it's
no need to.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
They could do Raw versus SmackDown war games.
That could work.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
They could do Raw versus team, but you have to
have a reason for it.
War games you have to have areason for it.
That's like a big-time rivalrymatch.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, but I just want to see Nick Aldis' team versus
Adam Pearce's team.
That's all I want to see.
It doesn't have to be asurvivor's team, I just want to
see that.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's all I want to see, but but yeah, so does Tariq
get involved in that match?
Oh, I mean he's going to bethere.
He said he's going to be thereSunday night.
He posted that he was going tobe there.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
So does he interfere in this match or does he wait
until the end of the match?
And I mean, cody, you knoweverybody's been talking about
Roman Reigns versus the Rock.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, it was supposed to happen at WrestleMania last
year until Cody pulled the wholeswitcheroo.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
No, not.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Cody.
Well remember, Cody got mad andtook his spot back.
No, that was the.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Cody.
The Cody Crybabies were whatthe Rock calls the Cody.
Crybabies, they were way beforeCody Rose got mad.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, it wasn't Remember it was.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That kickoff show for WrestleMania.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
What?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's when he got.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
It was on SmackDown.
Remember when he came out andhe said I'm not gonna.
We're gonna wrestle, but it'snot gonna be at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, no, I know that .
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And he said I had to talk with somebody, and then the
Rock's music hit.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, someone you know very well.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah then, boom Rock was hit.
That was when Cody Rose a spotup.
Then the whole people got madabout it on social media and
stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That was before Cody Rhodes got mad.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I know they were saying the people online got mad
about it right yeah, andstarted talking about why did
Cody Rhodes give a spot up?
You know all this stuff.
And then on the kickoff show,that's when Roman Reigns and the
Rock came out and did thehandshake.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And then Cody Rhodes came out and said nah, we ain't
doing this.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And then everybody cheered because they were like
alright, and that's how he tookthe spot back.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
He was a Royal Rumble winner, so he got to choose.
That's what he chose.
Instead of giving it to theRock, he chose to take his shot
at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And one thing I think that I could be wrong.
I could be wrong on this, but Ithink that I could be wrong.
I could be wrong on this, but Ithink the Rock taking Cody
Rhodes' spot was either the mostdisliked video on YouTube or on
WWE's account.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's what I'm saying.
So they've been teasing thatfor a while now.
I mean even the year beforethat they were teasing the Rock
coming back, but the Rock nevercame back.
So this year the Rock's there.
Are they going to finally pulla trigger with the rock versus
roman reigns?
Oh, I think so.
I mean so they do that.
Are they gonna start to build?
They already started up a badblow and rock came out after the
match but what?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
the one, two, three, that wouldn't that make sense
for survivor series?
No but one, two, three orwhatever, I think.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I think the rock's situation was similar to cody
rose.
The rock was like me and youtalking about Roman.
Reigns and the Rock teamed upto beat down Cody Rhodes and
Seth Rollins.
We spent a couple of monthsleading up to this Heck.
(26:59):
The Rock beat Cody Rhodes upoutside, left him leaking
outside.
I mean, beat him down Right,right, left the leaking outside
in the rain and you go and teamup with them.
Yeah y'all are all buddy, buddy, and you see my will.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
The guy who beat you for the bill, yeah and yeah, and
you team up the guy.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So, wow, wow, what we doing what we doing here, just
like it's, like you know what'slike everybody's problem.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
That's almost so.
Those problems like what wedoing, what are we doing here?
It's like Kevin Owens thing.
That's everybody's problem.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
That's almost Solo's problem too.
What are we doing?
Why are you teaming with a guyyou spent two years trying to
beat?
Now you're teaming up with him.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You know that almost makes Solo look like a good guy
facing Roman Reigns, but yeah,but yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So that's why I think he comes out post-match.
Yeah, post-match he probablycomes out for sure.
He for sure comes outpost-match and Bloodline gets
interferes.
I mean I think Solo's going towin this match.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh yeah, no, I want Solo to win, but I don't think
he's going to win.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Because there's rumors talking about Roman
Reigns is going to stay on Raw.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Oh, yeah, I think that's true.
Wait, no.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
If Roman Reigns stays on Raw.
I hope he doesn't, because butthat would be a good way for him
to lose and he can't stay onSmackDown anymore If he loses
the match.
He can't be a tribal chiefbecause he has to hit a dollar
solo every week on SmackDown,week on SmackDown.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So the best way for him, to get away from him, is
Kota Raw, mm-hmm.
So.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
What do you have to acknowledge him every week,
though?
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
so it's going to make him do it.
He'll make him do it because helost the match.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, that's fair, he'll have to.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's just part of the lost Survivor Series, but it
wasn.
Whoever wins this match isconsidered a tribal chief,
because it's like Jey Uso whenhim and Roman Reigns fall.
Whoever won that match is goingto be a tribal chief, the head
of the table, the one peopleacknowledge.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know.
So Roman loses his match, he'sgoing to have to stay on Raw
because otherwise he's going tohave to acknowledge Solo every
time Solo comes out, going tothrow the ones up.
Yeah, At least on Raw he cankind of, like Jey Uso did, get
away from all that and kind ofdo his own thing and plus, it's
been on Netflix, remains, Ithink, does better on Netflix.
It brings more eyes to Netflixtoo.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah.
You know, but yeah, but for themain event, it's Sam Punk
versus Seth Rollins, and I thinkI know it's very early into the
(29:29):
year, but it depends on howgood this match is.
I feel like this is a potentialbest match of the year if they
go that far and how good theother matches of the like, how
good the other best matches ofthe year are.
But I feel like this could beone of the best matches of the
(29:50):
year it could be if they justlet them like go out there and
have a match.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Here's the good thing , though or possibly good thing
about Netflix Netflix isn'tcable, so you could have a
return of blood they alreadyreturned to.
Yeah, but I mean like back inthe Attitude Era.
I don't think they're going togo back, but this match could
have that, though, because thisis a grudge match, uh-huh.
You know, seth Rollins, thewhole promo when they were
(30:15):
spitting fire at each other lastweek on Raw, I mean, that was
personal.
That was 10 years offrustration built up you know
what would be good.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I feel like.
I feel like they like kinda didthis like a little bit,
wouldn't like like it fully, butI feel like they let them say
like a lot like personal, likeactual personal stuff, and then
pull their back a little,because if they said personal
stuff it would be like way toomuch for.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But if you remember, technically cm punk brought the
shield up right because he andthey interfere.
They interfere with the cm punkand roback match to shield
debut in that match yeah, butwhen do you say that?
Because technically people weresaying that cm punk brought
them up to interfere in thatmatch, like it could be robin by
itself.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It's just like 10 plus years ago I thought, but he
, but he didn't on like a randomsmack, that he said I never
blah blah.
I know he didn't on a randomsmack that.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He said I never blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, I know he didn't.
That's the original peoplesaying that.
He did, though, because hecouldn't be right back by
himself, so he brought them upto take him out and win.
So now CM Punk left.
It wasn't because he left, itwas the way he left, it was what
he said when he left, it waswhat he did when he left.
It didn't work out there.
(31:27):
Now he's back there to be, andSeth Rollins was like welcome
back.
We don't want you here, butwelcome back.
And then Seth Rollins was therethe whole time and Seth Rollins
never left.
He got hurt, he got injured,you know.
He got messed up back, blew hisknee out.
All this in the same time.
Cm Punk was at home watching itwhile they were on TV.
He wasn't even there.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
You know what I'm glad happened when Seth Rollins
was doing all this to make surethe body parts and stuff were
good.
I'm glad he didn't get hurtdoing that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's healthy, he's good now he's not hurting
anymore.
I'm just saying Sam Pong wasmentioning all his injuries that
he had.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
What about the inside ?
I know Bronson Reed, but wouldthey really like insides pop out
?
I don't think your insides, Idon't think your insides would
hurt if you took a tsunami.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
No, you can get internal bleeding, internal
injuries.
Yeah, you can get internalinjuries.
Yeah, you can get hit in thestomach at the wrong time.
Yeah, you can get hurt.
So a lot of times you see thoseguys bleeding from the mouth
when they get hit in the stomach.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
That's just internal bleeding, that's the worst kind,
this actual blood.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
But I'm just saying, if you hit somebody hard up in
their stomach they can spit upblood Right.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That's the worst kind , because you don't know what's
going on.
At least, if you get cutsomewhere on the outside of your
body, you can see, okay, I got.
You cough up blood.
You don't know where it'scoming from, so you don't know
what's going on inside becauseyou can't see it.
So yeah, I mean that's what CMPunk was talking about.
If you get tsunami like thatenough, you can have internal
injuries.
(32:57):
Did it say internal injuries?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, that's why you don't know if the guys have
bandages on and all that,because they're just trying to
protect.
But for my favorite thing well,not my favorite thing, but like
one of my favorite things onthe show Michael Cole versus Pat
McAfee and Pat McAfee returningto commentating on Raw ever
(33:23):
since Pat McAfee left tocommentate football.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, college football.
And that's pretty much wherethey got, like I think next week
, and then they're done withfootball for a few months.
Yeah, college football, andthat's pretty much where they
got, like I think, next week,and then we got to their demo
football for a few months, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
College football, so he's not going to be
commentating those.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Well, he might be doing the one next week, but it
won't be on Monday though.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So he can always fly wherever it's going to be at and
then fly back.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Wait, so was it.
So were those on Monday, onMonday.
Those were on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
So, but he was traveling though, and you can't,
it was just too much to betrying to do boom, boom too much
.
Plus, he had a newborn baby.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
How did he do the Royal Rumble and stuff like that
?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's just the one time.
He just came there and he flewin.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Plus Royal Rumble, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
You think he?
Flew out, he was on comment.
No, he was on comment, yeahprobably because he was.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, roy Rumble was on a Saturday and he left that
morning.
He went to a football game thatmorning and then, well, he's in
the same city.
It was the same city.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's why it was the same city oh, okay, that's why
it was the same city.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, I was figuring like at college game day.
The Rock was down there too,and he showed up on Smackdown or
something that same day.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
When was that that?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
same day, whatever that show was that day one Raw.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Something like that or whatever it was.
He showed up too after he wason TV earlier in the day.
But yeah, the only thing Idon't like about the Raw Netflix
is they took off the uh women'sintercontinental finals oh yeah
, like I, I don't know why theywould delay that.
That's a big thing they, fromwhat I was hearing they say,
(34:59):
took it off because they didn'twant it to be overshadowed by
everything else going on.
So they moved.
They moved it to either nextweek or the roar room.
I don't know when they move itto, I'm not sure I don't think
something like that will beovershadowed.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The Rock.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
John Cena, Michael Cole, Pat McAfee.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
But then there's also Jey Uso and Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That's what I'm saying.
But what I'm saying is thatmatch.
You can put that match on andthis is a match.
But the first ever Women'sintercontinental championship
needs more than what they.
They want, like a Chelsea Greentype of thing, where it's a big
deal and they don't think itcould be.
It could be overshadowed byeverything else going on.
I mean Roman Reigns, solo, theRock, cm Punk, seth Rollins, liv
(35:44):
Morgan, rhea Ripley, travisScott, john Cena, logan Paul all
these people showing up and whoknows who else might show up.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
There's talks of other legends showing up
throughout the night.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I got caught off guard when you say Travis Scott,
because you were just listeningoff Razzlers.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I know, I'm just saying it's just people, all the
people showing up, plus therumor of other Razzlers showing
up, other legends showing up,who?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
knows, I don't want to see them.
The Undertaker might show up.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Who knows?
This is the first time ever onNetflix, so who knows?
It's just three hours and theycan run over.
It's not a set time for Netflix.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
You know they actually ran over on SmackDown.
They ran over a couple minutes.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
They can run over on Netflix too, because Netflix is
live, I feel like they will dothat.
There's something that comes on.
After that goes off, it's time,with another show coming on at
11.
They can run until 12.
They want to never do that, butthey can run as long as they
want to.
So they run five ten minutesover.
They run five ten minutes over,that's just all it is.
(36:37):
But yeah, I see why they movedit because you don't want to be
overshadowed.
You don't want the first everWomen's Intercontinental
Championship than the UnitedStates Championship For the
women.
We'll see who wins.
I like Dakota Kai for that.
(36:59):
I picked her to win theoriginal and I saw the brackets.
That's who I got winning.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I thought it was going to be Io Sky and Dakota
Kai.
Yeah, I'm so glad Io Sky isprobably my favorite women's
wrestler probably ever honestlybut I just did not want her to
see.
Um, I don't want to see herbeat lyra valkyria and, and even
worse, uh, be theintercontinental champion, the
(37:26):
women's intercontinental.
I know you have to have likethat big, like megastar to start
off as champion, but also Ifeel like you should have
someone who doesn't have thatmany WWE championships or
someone who doesn't have any.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Except Tag maybe.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, I got you, but yeah, this should be a pretty
good match I mean pretty goodcard all the way around.
They're treating it like apremium live event.
This is like a premium liveevent 2.0.
Yeah, what it seemed like.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's like WrestleMania Zero.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, I mean this is a premium live event, what it
looks like.
I mean they're treating it likeone.
Roman Reigns is on there.
He hardly ever wrestles onregular TV, so he go Well, yeah,
he's hardly ever.
He's only pretty live in mostly.
That's it Pretty much he mostlyshe shows up sometimes.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
The tribal chief thing has he wrestled?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I'm sure he has, but I can't remember it though.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, oh, matt Riddle , yeah, stuff like that, montez
Ward yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
But um.
So tune in Monday night onNetflix and we'll see how
everything goes with Netflix onwith raw Netflix and see, kind
of, if they change the conceptor anything like that.
So I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
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