February 1, 2025 • 38 mins
The excitement for the 2025 Royal Rumble builds as we dive into predictions for both women’s and men’s matches. Anticipation surrounds possible surprise returns, intense confrontations, and who will ultimately claim victory among the wrestling elite.
• Women's Royal Rumble predictions highlight Charlotte Flair as a potential winner
• Discussion on major returns, particularly AJ Lee and Nikki Bella
• Cody Rhodes vs. Kevin Owens in a pivotal ladder match with high stakes
• Men’s Royal Rumble features a stacked roster with expected surprises
• Speculations on who will stand in the final four contestants
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
welcome to the ben and bash podcast tag team talk
I'm ben I'm bash.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Uh, might see a little different location this
time for both of us.
Uh, bash was a little underweather right now so we're not
able to be at the same spotright here, but we're going to
be still give you video content,wrestling, podcast, stuff, all
that and we are going to bedoing the Royal Rumble
predictions today, 2025 RoyalRumble Go through it.
(00:40):
Who do you think is going todebut?
Maybe?
Who's going to come back?
Who's going to win it?
You know, maybe the final two.
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
All right, but for the first match on the card,
it's the Women's Royal Rumbleand my pick.
I'm kind of mad that theyruined her surprise, but I'm
going with Charlotte Flair towin the 2025 Women's Royal
Rumble.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So you think she's going to win it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yep.
I have a feeling, the two whoyou're going to think, but I'm
not certain.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
No, I don't know, because I'm going about who's
the women's champion right now,because there's not a women's
match on here, so the beltsaren't changing hands today.
So Tiffany Stratton and RheaRipley both have the belts right
now.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, and they're probably not going to lose it to
Mania anyways.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Exactly so.
They're not going to lose itright now, so it doesn't look
like they're going to lose it.
So figure out who can be a goodmatchup for either one of those
.
That's what I'm coming down to.
Who do I think would be thebetter matchup between both of
them?
Because Rhea Ripley, obviously,charlotte Flair.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
No, I mean Tiffany Stratton versus Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, that can work too.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean, you should you sure Charlotte Flair really
want a rematch.
I feel like Tiffany Strattonversus Charlotte Flair would be
a better match, because wehaven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, you got that, but then you also have.
I mean, you got some people maycome back.
Who knows, you got Baker Lynchmay come back.
Who knows, you got Baker Lynchmay come back?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I heard that Jordan Grace is signed to the WWE, but
I'm not sure if it's true.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I think if she did, she's in NXT right now.
I know her contract.
Yeah, I know her contract ranout in January with TNA.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But I feel like she just might show up, but not like
win it, but I hope she's goingto win.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, she's going to be on NXT first, I think, like I
said, her last match in TNA wasagainst Tessa Blanchard.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Is that when she lost the title?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No, she lost the title already.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It was like a grudge match.
They had been attacking eachother for weeks.
Yeah, kind of like CM Punk andDrew McIntyre was.
They were having one of thosekind of feuds where it wasn't
the building involved, it wasjust them.
Just when they saw each other,it was on site pretty much.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So they had one of those matches Tessa Blanchard
won.
It looked like it was JordanGrayson's last match, the way
people were clapping for and thewrestlers backstage and all
that TNA is still working withNXT.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, so they can do any switchovers or something.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, but she's going to be signed with WWE, though
she's not going to be on TNAevery week.
Yeah, yeah yeah, she's going tobe in WWE.
She may still work with peoplelike that in TNA, but she's in
WWE now.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And before you get into your prediction, I do it.
And another thing that peoplesay they're returning.
There's like two people, um um,nikki Bella and AJ Lee.
Do you think either of those isa possibility?
If?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
a AJ Lee.
If she comes back, it'd have tobe this time.
Yeah, yeah, Do you think eitherof those is a possibility?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
If AJ Lee, if she comes back, it'll have to be
this time.
Yeah, yeah, do you think it'sfull time or just Royal Rumble?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, she's not.
Next year's Royal Rumble is inSaudi Arabia and you know CM
Punk don't do those shows, ohyeah, yeah.
She's not going to do thoseshows because he doesn't do them
.
So if she doesn't, debut if shedoesn't come back this year
it's going to be two yearsbefore the next one.
You see what I'm saying.
(04:29):
Yeah, so if she doesn't comeback this time, she's not coming
back put it that way.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, that's a fair point.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But I would definitely say she would
definitely.
She may not be on the mainroster, but if she does come
back, she may come back and havelike a little part-time type of
role.
So have like a little, you know, part-time type of role.
Uh.
So yeah, it's hard, man,there's so many women wrestlers
that could debut.
Man, I mean you got tna, yougot they work with japan
sometimes, so you got somepeople from japan can come over.
Man, uh, I'm not gonna pickbailey again.
(04:59):
I picked her last year, uh,because she won last year.
I don't see her repeating.
I mean, you see how that's abliss.
Yeah, I mean you got jaycargill, but they're I don't
think she's winning the rumblethough no, she's not gonna win
it.
Uh, just cause whoever attackedher is gonna be in that match
more likely.
So well, that'd probably be afew itself for wrestlemania
(05:21):
right there.
Whoever attacked her was bianca, was it was Bianca, or Naomi,
or somebody else we don't knowabout, who knows?
But who'd you pick to win,charlotte Flair?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, Charlotte Flair .
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Who do I want to see wrestle?
Either one of those, I meanBecky Lynch, could definitely.
I could see her coming back andwinning it.
Who else?
Or do you think it's going tobe just somebody there, or is it
going to be like a surprise?
Somebody wins.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I think it's going to be like either.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Flair or surprise.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Remember when Shinsuke won it?
Nobody was expecting him to winit that year.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah.
I thought, they were behindShinsuke.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
They were, but who really thought he was going to
win that match, though?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Who really thought he was going to win that match.
People were behind him, but whoreally thought he was going to
win that match?
It was crazy that he won butthen of course he didn't win the
title.
Yeah, so I'm going to say BeckyLynch.
I'm going to say Becky Lynchcomes back if she wins.
I'm just going to throw it outthere because it's so hard to
pick.
(06:34):
I mean, I'm sure there's goingto be someone from NXT.
I'm sure Roxanne Perez is goingto come.
Yeah, I'm sure Bayley got thething going on.
I'm sure Last Legend is goingto come.
Yeah, we got the thing going on.
I'm sure Last Legend is goingto be in there.
Julia's definitely going toprobably be there, for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
She's going to show off some NXT talent.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, I'm sure it's 30 women.
You got 30 women in the match.
Yeah, you don't need to bring15 older women wrestlers in
there anymore, like you did thefirst time.
The first couple of ones I getyou bringing Nikki Bella and
Molly Holly and all the ones inbecause they had never been in
one before.
So it's giving the veterans therespect of being in the Royal
(07:19):
Rumble for the first time.
But now you got so many womenwrestlers within TNA, wwe, nxt
Japan you can bring over and notbring in an old wrestler.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, but yeah.
But but yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, I see your point, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna go.
Yeah, I see your point.
Yeah, I'm gonna go.
Becky Lynch, I'm gonna.
I mean, I know we're gonna getto Bianca Belair or whoever
attacked Jade.
That's gonna be a big deal.
If not, why would you?
What was the point of that?
You know they've beenmentioning her on Smackdown
almost every week, so she has tobe coming back yeah.
(08:08):
I mean, she knows who attackedher, I'm sure yeah, unless it
was like a blind side yeah, ifit was a blind side, I get it,
but if it's not a blind side,then I mean, you know, but uh,
but yeah, alright, let's get tothe next one okay for the next
one, a potential For the nextone, a potential show stealer.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
In my opinion, motor City Machine Gun versus DIY in a
two out of three falls matchfor the SmackDown Tag Team
Championships, yeah, and forthis one I'm pretty sure DIY is
going to retain.
I just don't see them losingthis close to Mania.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, you don't see them losing this close.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I feel like they're going to have something
with like Pretty Deadly at Mania.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, it looks like they're
going to lead up to PrettyDeadly having some kind of push,
because they've been on TVevery week.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, they've been.
They're going to lead up toPretty Deadly having some kind
of push because they've been onTV every week.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, they've been the main focus in the tag team
division.
I mean, or they could do aFatal 4-Way.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, that's what I think they're going to do, but
either way, I feel like PrettyDeadly is going to win.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Didn't they do that in WWE 4?
It was Edge and Christianversus the Hardys versus the
Dudleys.
Yeah, was there a fourth teamin that match?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It was the first TLC match.
Was anybody else in that matchbesides them?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Edge Christian the.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Dudleys and the Hardys.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hardys.
Was anybody else in that matchbetween them?
I don't know.
Triple threat match, right,that's all it was.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I feel like yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I think that may be all it was, but yeah,
maybe something like that wherethey put DIY versus Pretty
Deadly versus Legato versusMotor City Machine Guns.
Yeah, because I mean, streetPoppers haven't been there in a
while.
There's no tag teams been therein a while anyways, you know.
(10:12):
So they ain't going to turnheel, though, cause they're not
doing anything.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't see them turning heel.
I think if Triple H pulled thetrigger at the right time, but
like I feel like it's just likean Austin Theory thing, we're
just gonna just throw that awayyeah so, but yeah, I don't know.
But yeah, uh, who you gotwinning that one I have diy
(10:37):
retaining because I just don'tsee them losing yeah, I don't
see diy losing either.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I mean they're a heel tag team.
They just turned heel not toolong ago.
They're going to get a nicelittle run.
So yeah, I see them winningagain.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But also one thing if you watch Friday Night
Smackdown, there's a lot oftension building.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh yeah, of course.
I mean they've been knowingeach other for years.
They're both.
I mean I remember seeing.
I don't really remember JohnnyGargano as much.
I remember Tommaso Ciampa inRing of Honor.
He was in Ring of Honor a bunch, I remember him.
And then Mosley Machine Gun.
They were in TNA with AJ Stylesin TNA.
So I've been seeing them for awhile.
So all four of them areindependent Hall of Famers.
(11:24):
I mean they're the best of thebest you know.
So I'm glad they're actuallygetting the opportunity now in
WWE to show what they can do onthe main stage.
So yeah, I got DIY but, like Isaid, two out of three falls man
, that could be a banger forsure.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I see like an NXT type tag team match right
here.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I don't know if there's any going to be any
interference, because two out ofthree falls.
You can still have interference.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, and it won't really matter.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It doesn't matter because you still got, unless
it's the second fall.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Because the first fall somebody can come out and
interfere and you know whateveryou know, but yeah, but um, yeah
, but uh, is that all you'regonna say on that?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
yeah, that's all I had on that one uh, for the next
match on the card and the oneI'm the most excited for
actually, yeah, yeah, the lastI'm the most excited for.
It's Cody Rose versus KevinOwens in a ladder match for the
Undisputed Championship and theWing Eagle Championship.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, the OG championship.
Yeah, I'm going to let you gofirst, because I got to go on a
rant about this one.
Real quick, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Dang, I feel like I almost know what you're about to
say.
I'm trying to steal your idea.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Don't do it.
I'm going to go ahead and domine.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I feel like it surrounds one of two people.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean, it's two people in a match.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's not what I meant, but one or two people
interference.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I'm going to let you go ahead and do what you need to
do.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think either Sami Zayn attacks Kevin Owens or
Randy Orton attacks Kevin Owens,but either way, I just don't
see Cody Rhodes losing.
I really like the characterbuild for Kevin Owens is insane.
I really want to see himchampion.
He deserves another title run.
(13:26):
You know, I really want to sayKevin champion.
Uh, he deserves another titlerun.
You know, I'm you know, Ireally want to say kevin.
You know, yeah, you know whatI'm gonna say kevin owens.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't even care, I'm gonna say kevin owens yeah,
I mean, do we know if sammyzane's gonna be on cody's side?
I don't know I mean he did alittle kick seth rollins as a CM
Punk too.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, Cody Rhodes.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Cody Rhodes.
Yeah, cody Rhodes, he did alittle kick both of them.
Was it on purpose?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Was it an accident?
I don't know.
And also I think what you'rethinking of, cm Punk, because he
said CM Punk's never renovatedWrestleMania, but he has.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And who did he main evented with?
Kevin Owens, exactly, and ifboth of them can main event
WrestleMania together againsteach other.
You see what I'm saying.
I mean, I can't even say it.
Are you done now?
Huh, are you done?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I don't know.
I just really want Kevin to win, so I'm going to just stick
with Kevin.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
All right, I'm going to say something right here.
Kevin Owens is 100% correct ineverything he said so far.
He is the champion.
He beat Cody Rhodes Yep Refereewas in the ring, cool.
Then Cody Rhodes cheated.
He cheated, he used the chair,didn't kick out the ring, he'll
(14:53):
move.
I mean Kevin Norris shouldn'tbe mad at Cody Rhodes.
I mean, they spent years tryingto beat up Roman Reigns and got
beat up by Roman Reigns.
Before Cody even came, when hewas still in AEW, kevin Norris
was getting beat down by RomanReigns in the bloodline.
And then you go and help outRoman Reigns against the
bloodline, like you spent twoyears.
(15:14):
Cody Rhodes spent two yearsgetting the belt from Roman
Reigns just to join and help himget his bloodline back.
How does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
It really doesn't.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know?
I mean, like I said, kevinOwens is doing his best heel
work I've seen in a long time.
I mean, he's using the shirts,making fun of everybody with the
shirts.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh yeah, he has some loaded shirts.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, those shirts man.
He's not playing around withthose shirts, man.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Especially the Naomi shirt.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That was crazy oh yeah, the Naomi, shirt yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I wonder what kind of shirt he's going to wear at
night, though I don't know.
I feel like it's going to besomething like Sami Zayn or
Randy Orton related.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, it may be Cody Rose.
He might be Cody Rose.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, that might make more sense.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
He's done everybody in Cody's family except for
Goldust.
He ain't done Goldust yet hehasn't dressed up for Goldust.
He hasn't gotten Goldust yet.
He hasn't dressed up as Goldust.
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I can't remember Goldust I know that was Stardust
.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, he did Stardust .
He did a bunch of Dusty shirts.
Like I said, he did RandyOrton's dad, naomi.
He does Sami Zayn.
You know he's done a bunch ofshirts.
I haven't seen him do a DustinRose or a Goldust shirt yet.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Maybe he'll bring it out tonight maybe, but yeah, he
has been trolling and he's beenright.
I mean he's 100% right.
I mean you can't say KevinOwens is wrong on anything.
You say Even somebody whodoesn't like Kevin Owens, you
can't say he's wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Because he's right.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You know what would be crazy though Don't want to
cut you off, but you know whatwould be crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
What's that?
Or a Mama Rose shirt.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, that'd be a good one.
That'd be a good one rightthere, but yeah, I don't know.
I just don't see.
I want to see Kevin Owens win.
Man, cody Rose does not need awin.
Kevin Owens needs a win.
Like they said on SmackDownyesterday, kevin Owens has not
(17:13):
won at the Royal Rumble yet.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
He's 0-5 in matches, not including the actual Royal
Rumble itself.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So he's 0-5 in matches at Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Including losing Logan Paul last year why'd he
even lose that?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
that's what I'm saying.
So Cody Rose is not needed.
That can give him anopportunity to wrestle Kevin
Owens at WrestleMania in arematch.
And whoever wins the men'sRoyal Rumble match goes against
Gunther.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And a prediction If Kevin Owens doesn't win, I feel
like he's definitely going to bein the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh yeah, Whoever loses is going to be in the
Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And who knows, cody Rhodes may win the Royal Rumble,
just so he can challenge KevinOwens again.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
He shouldn't have a three-peat.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
He really shouldn't Nobody ever three-peated before.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
When Stone Cold did.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
He repeated, not three-peated.
Stone Cold has three wins, butthere were only two of them
back-to-back.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So Cody is tied with a couple guys for two times
back-to-back.
I don't think anybody, becauseevery time I bailey yesterday on
the kickoff show she'll be tiedwith Cody and Stone Cold.
And I think Hogan is the onlyguys with two straight Cody.
If he wins, if he answers itand wins it, he'll win three.
(18:45):
That'd be tied with most ofStone Cold.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think Stone Cold has three wins.
I want to say Kevin Owens, man.
I really want to say KevinOwens is going to win this.
I'm going to say Kevin Owenstoo, man.
I'm going to go out and sayKevin Owens too, man, just go
ahead.
I cannot say Kevin Owens is notgoing to win this man, he has
(19:10):
to win this match.
He needs to win this match.
Cody will be okay if he loses.
Oh, yeah, definitely I mean,because this storyline, the feud
between them, we get it.
We know, we know Cody Rhodesloses this match.
Yeah, we get it.
We know, we know Cody Rose cando this match.
He's not going into as afavorite, he's injured and all
that.
So if Kevin Owens wins, it'snot a surprise, but he needs to
(19:34):
win.
You know he needs to win.
So I mean, that's what I said Iwould let you know if I'm Kevin
, I'm going there.
I'm attacking every body part.
Man, Everything is hurting Neck, knee, shoulder, everything.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I think Kevin Owens is either going to hit a
piledriver or is going to getinterrupted by somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, I mean, who knows?
Like I said, sami Zayn may come, randy Orton may come back, who
knows who may come back?
I mean we have no idea.
That's the whole point of thisis we have no idea what's going
to happen, but we're just goingto see who we think is going to
happen.
But yeah, I think Sammy,they've been leaking up Sammy
Zane too much for him not to beinvolved at all.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
He has to be involved some kind of way, Otherwise why
would you, why would you?
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So I don't, you know, he has to win, he has to be
involved some kind of way.
I would think Mm-hmm, but yeah,I mean, that's just my opinion
anyways.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
But is that what you're going to say about that?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, yeah, I got Kevin Owens winning.
Like I said, he should win it.
If he doesn't win, we ride.
No, I'm just kidding.
But yeah, no, kevin Owensshouldn't win this match.
But I just, I don't know, it'stoo close to WrestleMania,
unless, unless there's somethingelse planned.
I don't see, I don't know man,I want Kevin Owens to win.
(21:02):
I'm not going to even say KevinOwens, I'm not going to put out
that Cody Williams is going towin, kevin Owens is going to win
, kevin Owens is going to win,period.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I like the confidence .
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't want to say yo and jinx it and mess it up
and Cody Williams.
So we're going to say KevinOwens wins, but for the main
event.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
it's the Men's Royal Rumble, and this is like the
most stacked men's Royal Rumblealmost ever.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen one this
stacked.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, I'm sure there was one Like I wasn't born then.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But yeah, you got.
It's John Cena's last one.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Roman Reigns hasn't been in one since he defended
the belt, mm-hmm, you rememberhe defended the belt.
Wait, you remember he defendedthe belt in the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, was that last year.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
No, no, no, he was actually in the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Whoever won the Royal Rumble won the belt, and this
is Triple H won it.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I can't remember him being in one after that.
He has the belt for four years.
He had the belt for four yearshe had the belt for.
So he's wrestled at Roy Rumbles, but he hasn't been in one in a
while.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So I mean I remember, yeah, that one for sure I can't
remember.
I know he was in one when AJStyles debuted and then he was
in the one.
He was in a few of them, he wona couple.
So yeah, I mean, then you gotSeth Rollins, cm Punk, drew
McIntyre, sami Zayn Usos, damianPriest I'm sure Omos is going
(22:39):
to be in the match because ofthe Royal Rumble.
Yeah uh who?
Jacob fatu?
Oh yeah, I'm sure they're gonnahave solo come in there.
You cannot put, not put solo inthere, uh, I mean really though
yeah, you have to, you have to,you have to, man he hasn't been
(23:00):
on tv and like forever hehasn't, but why not you?
What was the whole point of thebuild up for him and not put
him in the Royal Rumble?
And then the nominations.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
He showed up for two seconds.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, who else the Rock's not going to be in it?
I don't think I don't see theRock being in it.
I don't see the Rock being init.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I don't see him being in the Royal Rumble.
He's just a straight toWrestleMania guy now there's
this crazy rumor that the Rockcomes out at number 31 because
of his executive power after 30comes out 5, 4, 3 if there's 30
people and they say the winnerof this is going to win, all of
(23:45):
a sudden you hear a countdown 31and the rock comes out.
Yeah, I can see that.
That'd be a that'd be.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
that'd be a cool way to have a rock um making his
authority, you know and theother way he could come out and
just like a random number, orlike just come out randomly,
eliminate Roman ranks and thenjust walk out.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Are we going to have any surprises?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh, I'm sure there'll be at least one.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Who do you think is going to be the big surprise?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
though.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Because there's always one big return or debut
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I got two, I think.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I'm going to press my luck.
Say his name and he appears Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Hendry, that was one of them.
That was one of mine what'syour second one?
The other one I was going tosay is the beast, brock Lesnar
they've been talking about thebeast a lot more they have been
saying it.
They have been saying the beasta lot of times, so I'm going to
say that too.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So A lot of times, so I'm going to say that too, yeah
.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know.
So hey, okay, but but yeah,brock Lesnar is coming back and
Joe Hensley appears.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
We see what kind of See what kind of the crowd
reaction he gets.
Now, how do you think they'regoing to set it up, as you were
going to say, what if Joe Hendrycomes?
How do you think they're goingto set it up?
Say his name and he appears.
Or just have him out there.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Somebody may have a sign.
I'm thinking they're going todo the sign thing.
Somebody's going to have a sign.
They're thinking they're goingto do like the sign thing.
Somebody's going to have a sign.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
They're going to show the sign before he comes out,
uh-huh, and then we'll see howthat goes.
I mean, the crowd is not goingto know the crowd, you know.
You don't hear the announcerson the crowd anyway, so it's all
a surprise to the crowd.
Uh-huh, you know so, but yeah.
But yeah, joe Higgins is goingto come out.
Let's see what the crowd,because this is going to be his
biggest crowd by far.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
We're going to see if the Because you know, wwe
crowds are different NXT crowds.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So some people don't even watch TNA or NXT, which is
crazy.
Yeah, some people don't evenwatch that stuff.
So we'll see if he gets the bigreaction like he should get.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh yeah, he was like the main thing on TNA.
He's the World HeavyweightChampionship, the World
Heavyweight Championship.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Do we get some guys from TNA?
Because you know, I don't knowif he's going to go by his TNA.
His real name, nick Nemeth Wait, hold on.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Another return.
What's?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Aleister Black.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yes, right, I forget, he is coming back.
He's coming back.
He's not in AEW anymore.
Yeah, I haven't heard them sayHouse of Black in a month or two
.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
They haven't even said House of Black.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I haven't heard them say House of Black.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Give me Malachi too.
Just throw Malachi in there.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It's the same person.
Malachi and Aleister are thesame person.
Sebastian Aleister Black andMalachi Black are the same
person.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That's my bad.
That's my bad, that's really mybad.
I met Buddy Matthews.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, buddy Matthews is not coming over.
You have to get AEW to workwith WWE.
That's not happening right now.
That's not happening Because,especially with the whole Penta
and Reyoenix ray phoenix thing,like that's not happening right
now.
They're not, they're not gonnabe in the same arena right now
yeah, wait, why not?
(27:18):
Did you not?
You know why ray phoenix isn'tthere right now I forgot he's
still in the contract to aw ohhe is.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I thought he was done with that.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He's supposed to be done but they added some extra
time because he got hurt, I meanhe broke his leg.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I think they're just trying to keep him as long as
possible.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yep, keep him off TV.
But yeah, him and Penta signedon the same day, so their
contract should end at the sametime.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Oh yeah, definitely that's bogus on AEW's part.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well, Ray Phoenix got injured, and so when?
He got injured, they added someof his injury time to his
contract.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They're so lucky he got injured because they just
got a chance to extend thecontract.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, the good thing about that, though, is when his
contract does run out, hensonwill be so over with the crowd
that when they, when they bringhis brother in man, they can
have to refute each other.
They can have them tagging eachother.
They can bring them inseparately, you know, they can
do a lot of things, but theydon't have to bring them in
together one thing that I I'mreally excited for and one thing
(28:24):
that I hope they don't do.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
First of all, I'm really excited that selena vegas
out of the lwo oh yeah, she'son smackdown now, yeah and
another thing I really hope thatthey just don't insert penta or
ray phoenix into the lwo no,they shouldn't, they shouldn't,
they shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
They don't look like they're gonna do it, because if
they did, they would alreadydone it already yeah, probably
they would have had it alreadyand he hadn't even yet even
showed him with the lwo.
Probably they would have hadhim with Rey Mysterio.
You haven't even showed himwith the LWO yet.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, they would have had him with Rey Mysterio, and
then he would have joined theLWO.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And I kind of know this all the time.
I need to see what they do.
New Day, better man, new Day.
They're getting a lot of heat,man.
Let them win some matches.
Let them win some matches.
I know it's a long build, Iknow you gotta be patient, but
let them win some matches.
They're making them lose.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
How is Kofi Kingston gonna lose to Rey Mysterio?
What does that do for ReyMysterio?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Nothing, that's what I'm saying.
So maybe after the Rory Rumble,the New Day, start winning and
they really start giving them anice little heel run.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I mean to be honest.
I want to see Xavier Woods winthe build.
I want to see him win thesingles build.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
How could it be all the former New?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Day.
Yeah, because I mean the Shielddid it.
All of them had to win worldchampions at one point in time.
Oh yeah, that's fair.
Two out of three of what's thegroup Three-man band for world
champions.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Wait, that's Jinder Mahal right.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Jinder Mahal, drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Heath Slater.
Why did Jinder Mahal even win?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't know, I'm just saying, but he won and Drew
McIntyre won.
Heath Slater was the only onewho didn't win, but he hadn't
made it to the B yet.
He hadn't came back to the Byet either.
That'd be a nice little reunion, right there.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
With them three coming back.
Had them three come back in theRoyal Rumble and kind of do a
reunion of three on B.
I mean I know Drew McIntyreprobably wouldn't go for it.
He'll probably eliminate bothof them because of that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, it would be like real heat if
they're all together.
Yeah, getting ready to do it,and then he eliminates both of
them.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Exactly.
I mean perfect.
That'd be perfect, that's whatI would do, but I don't know how
Jinder Mahal and Heath Slaterrelationship is with WWE right
now, so I can't tell you how.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Isn't Jinder Mahal still signed?
He had a match with Rollins.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You said what now?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Isn't Jinder Mahal still signed?
He had a match with SethRollins and had that damn
segment with the Rock.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, I don't think he signed anymore.
If he was signed, he'd be on TValready.
He ain't been on TV in a while.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, I think he got released at the same time.
I believe when everybody elsegot released was it last year he
literally never appeared.
Yeah, they only appeared a fewtimes, but you know all of them.
That got released at the sametime last year.
Mm-hmm, you know Elias and allof them.
I think he got released withall of them.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So, but yeah, I mean.
So who do you got winning thematch?
Oh yeah, we.
So who do you got winning themen's Royal Rumble match?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh yeah, we have to get to that, okay.
So for me, I really don't know.
I'm stuck between two.
I'm really stuck between two.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I either got CM Punk because he needs to have a
WrestleMania main event or Ihave the 16-time world
heavyweight champion just WWEchampion John Cena.
I have one of those two.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
So you said John Cena , who else?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Or CM Punk, cm Punk, I think it's going to be the
final two.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, cm Punk, though that's a I don't know, because
he left originally because hewasn't the main event at
WrestleMania.
That's one of the reasons heleft WWE originally.
Anyways, he was a worldchampion and he wasn't the main
event.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
He should have been inserted with cena in the rock
or something like that yeah,like you had john cena in the
rock as the main event that yearand you don't have to deal and
cm was champion, so that was notitle match, wasn't it?
What the rock and and john cena, yeah was it yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
was it how much I know.
One of them was a title match.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, but like I said , you had CM Punk was the world
champion for a whole year andthen when he wrestled in your
main event, yeah, that doesn'tmake any sense.
Exactly so.
Do you give him that and lethim win a Royal Rumble and let
him main event WrestleMania forthe first time, or do you keep
having him work toward it andlet somebody like John Cena or
(33:13):
Roman Reigns or somebody likethat.
I don't think Roman Reigns isgoing to win either.
He shouldn't.
He doesn't need it.
He does not need it right now.
Let him go.
Let him build without the beltright now.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, and he has the Una Fala, so he's good anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Let that story still bear it.
You still got Jacob Fatu goingout crazy.
Right now you can have them twowrestle each other.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I feel like he's eventually going to come after
that, una Fala.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Exactly the same way Solo did.
The same way Solo did, he stoleit.
But Jacob is typing.
He's going to go after it andtry to get it from him again,
you know?
So who do?
I got winning I'm not going tosay Drew McIntyre, because he
won last year.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Last year.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Didn't he win last year?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
No, that was like 2020.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Who won last year?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
That was Cody.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's right.
I'm sorry, cody.
Drew McIntyre fought SethRollins.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
But you know who was the runner-up in that?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Who was that?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
CM Punk.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
We got hurt last year , though.
Yeah, that's why, he didn't win, oh he made it all the way to
the end.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
He was like 27, I think, and then it was him and
Cody and I think he would havewon if he didn't get hurt.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, I don't know man.
Sammy Zane needs it.
He deserves it.
Man, I don't know man.
I mean, if Brock Lesnar comesback, he's going to win it.
He shouldn't Are you sure?
About that.
He's not.
I don't think he should, but hecould.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I mean, who's going to eliminate him?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Exactly who's going to eliminate him?
Whoever eliminates him is goingto have a match against him
Whoever eliminates Brock Lesnar.
If he comes back, whoevereliminates Brock Lesnar will be
having a match against him,because he is not going to let
that down.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You know why I'm saying John Cena, though?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Because I think he's going to challenge Gunther and
then CM Punk is just going toearn opportunity, maybe with
that favor from Paul Heymanagainst Cody Rose.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh yeah, we don't know what that favor is yet, do
we?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
People are speculating that it's like
pulling Roman Reigns off therope or like something.
Or it could be him helping himget a match, like you said, at
the WrestleMania I think it'sgoing to be it, because I think
John Cena is going to win andthen he's going to face Gunther
and then CM Punk is just goingto earn an opportunity with the
favor against Cody, because thatfavor.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
They've been talking about that favor.
Too much for it not to be a bigdeal, you know so.
But yeah, I don't know.
We'll see how that goes though.
Yeah, we'll see how that goesthough.
Yeah, we'll see how that goeswith that.
Yeah, but yeah, but anyway.
(36:15):
So you got, yeah, who do I got?
You got a lot to do.
You got a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Who'd you pick?
I picked John Cena.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, you picked John Cena.
I'll go see a punk.
Just because I'll go see a punk.
Yeah, I'll go see a punk forthe win, okay, but yeah,
anything else you want to talkabout?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
No, Okay, but yeah, all right man.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Anything else you want to talk about?
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Well um.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Any more predictions, surprises, anything else before
you wrap this up?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I have a prediction on the final four.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Okay, what's that?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Drew McIntyre, roman Reigns, cm Punk and John Cena.
Okay, what's that?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
drew mcintyre, roman reigns cm punk and john cena.
Drew mcintyre cm punk.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Roman reigns john cena and you could trade out
drew mcintyre for someone likesammy zane or like seth rollins
yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
They've been building him up too big.
I'm gonna say jacob jacob towin the.
No to be in the Final Four.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh, I was about to say.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I wouldn't mind him winning it, but he's not going
to win that.
He's going to be the Final Four.
I'm going to have Jacob Fatuwin it.
Jacob Fatu, CM Punk, John Cena.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Are you saying Roman Reigns or Drew McIntyre?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
That's what I'm trying to figure out, because if
Jacob's in it, does heeliminate Roman Reigns?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I feel like he does and then it's Drew McIntyre
either Drew McIntyre or JacobFatu wins no elimination.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I'll go with Drew McIntyre, because that way it
leads to Roman Reigns WrestlingJacob at WrestleMania.
So, yeah, I'll go, drewMcIntyre.
Jacob John Cena, cm Punk FinalFour.
Yeah, wow, yep.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
But yeah, I think that's it.
That's all my predictions.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, that's all I got, too, man.
Alright, this has been anotherepisode of yeah, I think that's
it.
That's all my predictions.
Yeah, that's all I got too, man.
So alright, this has beenanother episode of I'm Ben, I'm
Bash.
Another episode of Tag TeamTalk.
welcome to the ben and bash podcast tag team talk
I'm ben I'm bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit them out with the ben
and bash podcast tag team talkall right, we're here for
another one.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Uh, might see a little different location this
time for both of us.
Uh, bash was a little underweather right now so we're not
able to be at the same spotright here, but we're going to
be still give you video content,wrestling, podcast, stuff, all
that and we are going to bedoing the Royal Rumble
predictions today, 2025 RoyalRumble Go through it.
(00:40):
Who do you think is going todebut?
Maybe?
Who's going to come back?
Who's going to win it?
You know, maybe the final two.
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
All right, but for the first match on the card,
it's the Women's Royal Rumbleand my pick.
I'm kind of mad that theyruined her surprise, but I'm
going with Charlotte Flair towin the 2025 Women's Royal
Rumble.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So you think she's going to win it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yep.
I have a feeling, the two whoyou're going to think, but I'm
not certain.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
No, I don't know, because I'm going about who's
the women's champion right now,because there's not a women's
match on here, so the beltsaren't changing hands today.
So Tiffany Stratton and RheaRipley both have the belts right
now.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, and they're probably not going to lose it to
Mania anyways.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Exactly so.
They're not going to lose itright now, so it doesn't look
like they're going to lose it.
So figure out who can be a goodmatchup for either one of those
.
That's what I'm coming down to.
Who do I think would be thebetter matchup between both of
them?
Because Rhea Ripley, obviously,charlotte Flair.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
No, I mean Tiffany Stratton versus Charlotte Flair.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, that can work too.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean, you should you sure Charlotte Flair really
want a rematch.
I feel like Tiffany Strattonversus Charlotte Flair would be
a better match, because wehaven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, you got that, but then you also have.
I mean, you got some people maycome back.
Who knows, you got Baker Lynchmay come back.
Who knows, you got Baker Lynchmay come back?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I heard that Jordan Grace is signed to the WWE, but
I'm not sure if it's true.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I think if she did, she's in NXT right now.
I know her contract.
Yeah, I know her contract ranout in January with TNA.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But I feel like she just might show up, but not like
win it, but I hope she's goingto win.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, she's going to be on NXT first, I think, like I
said, her last match in TNA wasagainst Tessa Blanchard.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Is that when she lost the title?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No, she lost the title already.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It was like a grudge match.
They had been attacking eachother for weeks.
Yeah, kind of like CM Punk andDrew McIntyre was.
They were having one of thosekind of feuds where it wasn't
the building involved, it wasjust them.
Just when they saw each other,it was on site pretty much.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So they had one of those matches Tessa Blanchard
won.
It looked like it was JordanGrayson's last match, the way
people were clapping for and thewrestlers backstage and all
that TNA is still working withNXT.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, so they can do any switchovers or something.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, but she's going to be signed with WWE, though
she's not going to be on TNAevery week.
Yeah, yeah yeah, she's going tobe in WWE.
She may still work with peoplelike that in TNA, but she's in
WWE now.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And before you get into your prediction, I do it.
And another thing that peoplesay they're returning.
There's like two people, um um,nikki Bella and AJ Lee.
Do you think either of those isa possibility?
If?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
a AJ Lee.
If she comes back, it'd have tobe this time.
Yeah, yeah, Do you think eitherof those is a possibility?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
If AJ Lee, if she comes back, it'll have to be
this time.
Yeah, yeah, do you think it'sfull time or just Royal Rumble?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, she's not.
Next year's Royal Rumble is inSaudi Arabia and you know CM
Punk don't do those shows, ohyeah, yeah.
She's not going to do thoseshows because he doesn't do them
.
So if she doesn't, debut if shedoesn't come back this year
it's going to be two yearsbefore the next one.
You see what I'm saying.
(04:29):
Yeah, so if she doesn't comeback this time, she's not coming
back put it that way.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, that's a fair point.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But I would definitely say she would
definitely.
She may not be on the mainroster, but if she does come
back, she may come back and havelike a little part-time type of
role.
So have like a little, you know, part-time type of role.
Uh.
So yeah, it's hard, man,there's so many women wrestlers
that could debut.
Man, I mean you got tna, yougot they work with japan
sometimes, so you got somepeople from japan can come over.
Man, uh, I'm not gonna pickbailey again.
(04:59):
I picked her last year, uh,because she won last year.
I don't see her repeating.
I mean, you see how that's abliss.
Yeah, I mean you got jaycargill, but they're I don't
think she's winning the rumblethough no, she's not gonna win
it.
Uh, just cause whoever attackedher is gonna be in that match
more likely.
So well, that'd probably be afew itself for wrestlemania
(05:21):
right there.
Whoever attacked her was bianca, was it was Bianca, or Naomi,
or somebody else we don't knowabout, who knows?
But who'd you pick to win,charlotte Flair?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, Charlotte Flair .
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Who do I want to see wrestle?
Either one of those, I meanBecky Lynch, could definitely.
I could see her coming back andwinning it.
Who else?
Or do you think it's going tobe just somebody there, or is it
going to be like a surprise?
Somebody wins.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I think it's going to be like either.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Flair or surprise.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Remember when Shinsuke won it?
Nobody was expecting him to winit that year.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah.
I thought, they were behindShinsuke.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
They were, but who really thought he was going to
win that match, though?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Who really thought he was going to win that match.
People were behind him, but whoreally thought he was going to
win that match?
It was crazy that he won butthen of course he didn't win the
title.
Yeah, so I'm going to say BeckyLynch.
I'm going to say Becky Lynchcomes back if she wins.
I'm just going to throw it outthere because it's so hard to
pick.
(06:34):
I mean, I'm sure there's goingto be someone from NXT.
I'm sure Roxanne Perez is goingto come.
Yeah, I'm sure Bayley got thething going on.
I'm sure Last Legend is goingto come.
Yeah, we got the thing going on.
I'm sure Last Legend is goingto be in there.
Julia's definitely going toprobably be there, for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
She's going to show off some NXT talent.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, I'm sure it's 30 women.
You got 30 women in the match.
Yeah, you don't need to bring15 older women wrestlers in
there anymore, like you did thefirst time.
The first couple of ones I getyou bringing Nikki Bella and
Molly Holly and all the ones inbecause they had never been in
one before.
So it's giving the veterans therespect of being in the Royal
(07:19):
Rumble for the first time.
But now you got so many womenwrestlers within TNA, wwe, nxt
Japan you can bring over and notbring in an old wrestler.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, but yeah.
But but yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, I see your point, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna go.
Yeah, I see your point.
Yeah, I'm gonna go.
Becky Lynch, I'm gonna.
I mean, I know we're gonna getto Bianca Belair or whoever
attacked Jade.
That's gonna be a big deal.
If not, why would you?
What was the point of that?
You know they've beenmentioning her on Smackdown
almost every week, so she has tobe coming back yeah.
(08:08):
I mean, she knows who attackedher, I'm sure yeah, unless it
was like a blind side yeah, ifit was a blind side, I get it,
but if it's not a blind side,then I mean, you know, but uh,
but yeah, alright, let's get tothe next one okay for the next
one, a potential For the nextone, a potential show stealer.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
In my opinion, motor City Machine Gun versus DIY in a
two out of three falls matchfor the SmackDown Tag Team
Championships, yeah, and forthis one I'm pretty sure DIY is
going to retain.
I just don't see them losingthis close to Mania.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, you don't see them losing this close.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I feel like they're going to have something
with like Pretty Deadly at Mania.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, it looks like they're
going to lead up to PrettyDeadly having some kind of push,
because they've been on TVevery week.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, they've been.
They're going to lead up toPretty Deadly having some kind
of push because they've been onTV every week.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, they've been the main focus in the tag team
division.
I mean, or they could do aFatal 4-Way.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, that's what I think they're going to do, but
either way, I feel like PrettyDeadly is going to win.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Didn't they do that in WWE 4?
It was Edge and Christianversus the Hardys versus the
Dudleys.
Yeah, was there a fourth teamin that match?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It was the first TLC match.
Was anybody else in that matchbesides them?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Edge Christian the.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Dudleys and the Hardys.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, the.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hardys.
Was anybody else in that matchbetween them?
I don't know.
Triple threat match, right,that's all it was.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I feel like yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I think that may be all it was, but yeah,
maybe something like that wherethey put DIY versus Pretty
Deadly versus Legato versusMotor City Machine Guns.
Yeah, because I mean, streetPoppers haven't been there in a
while.
There's no tag teams been therein a while anyways, you know.
(10:12):
So they ain't going to turnheel, though, cause they're not
doing anything.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't see them turning heel.
I think if Triple H pulled thetrigger at the right time, but
like I feel like it's just likean Austin Theory thing, we're
just gonna just throw that awayyeah so, but yeah, I don't know.
But yeah, uh, who you gotwinning that one I have diy
(10:37):
retaining because I just don'tsee them losing yeah, I don't
see diy losing either.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I mean they're a heel tag team.
They just turned heel not toolong ago.
They're going to get a nicelittle run.
So yeah, I see them winningagain.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But also one thing if you watch Friday Night
Smackdown, there's a lot oftension building.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh yeah, of course.
I mean they've been knowingeach other for years.
They're both.
I mean I remember seeing.
I don't really remember JohnnyGargano as much.
I remember Tommaso Ciampa inRing of Honor.
He was in Ring of Honor a bunch, I remember him.
And then Mosley Machine Gun.
They were in TNA with AJ Stylesin TNA.
So I've been seeing them for awhile.
So all four of them areindependent Hall of Famers.
(11:24):
I mean they're the best of thebest you know.
So I'm glad they're actuallygetting the opportunity now in
WWE to show what they can do onthe main stage.
So yeah, I got DIY but, like Isaid, two out of three falls man
, that could be a banger forsure.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, I see like an NXT type tag team match right
here.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I don't know if there's any going to be any
interference, because two out ofthree falls.
You can still have interference.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, and it won't really matter.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It doesn't matter because you still got, unless
it's the second fall.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Because the first fall somebody can come out and
interfere and you know whateveryou know, but yeah, but um, yeah
, but uh, is that all you'regonna say on that?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
yeah, that's all I had on that one uh, for the next
match on the card and the oneI'm the most excited for
actually, yeah, yeah, the lastI'm the most excited for.
It's Cody Rose versus KevinOwens in a ladder match for the
Undisputed Championship and theWing Eagle Championship.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, the OG championship.
Yeah, I'm going to let you gofirst, because I got to go on a
rant about this one.
Real quick, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Dang, I feel like I almost know what you're about to
say.
I'm trying to steal your idea.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Don't do it.
I'm going to go ahead and domine.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I feel like it surrounds one of two people.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean, it's two people in a match.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's not what I meant, but one or two people
interference.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I'm going to let you go ahead and do what you need to
do.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I think either Sami Zayn attacks Kevin Owens or
Randy Orton attacks Kevin Owens,but either way, I just don't
see Cody Rhodes losing.
I really like the characterbuild for Kevin Owens is insane.
I really want to see himchampion.
He deserves another title run.
(13:26):
You know, I really want to sayKevin champion.
Uh, he deserves another titlerun.
You know, I'm you know, Ireally want to say kevin.
You know, yeah, you know whatI'm gonna say kevin owens.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't even care, I'm gonna say kevin owens yeah,
I mean, do we know if sammyzane's gonna be on cody's side?
I don't know I mean he did alittle kick seth rollins as a CM
Punk too.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, Cody Rhodes.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Cody Rhodes.
Yeah, cody Rhodes, he did alittle kick both of them.
Was it on purpose?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Was it an accident?
I don't know.
And also I think what you'rethinking of, cm Punk, because he
said CM Punk's never renovatedWrestleMania, but he has.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And who did he main evented with?
Kevin Owens, exactly, and ifboth of them can main event
WrestleMania together againsteach other.
You see what I'm saying.
I mean, I can't even say it.
Are you done now?
Huh, are you done?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I don't know.
I just really want Kevin to win, so I'm going to just stick
with Kevin.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
All right, I'm going to say something right here.
Kevin Owens is 100% correct ineverything he said so far.
He is the champion.
He beat Cody Rhodes Yep Refereewas in the ring, cool.
Then Cody Rhodes cheated.
He cheated, he used the chair,didn't kick out the ring, he'll
(14:53):
move.
I mean Kevin Norris shouldn'tbe mad at Cody Rhodes.
I mean, they spent years tryingto beat up Roman Reigns and got
beat up by Roman Reigns.
Before Cody even came, when hewas still in AEW, kevin Norris
was getting beat down by RomanReigns in the bloodline.
And then you go and help outRoman Reigns against the
bloodline, like you spent twoyears.
(15:14):
Cody Rhodes spent two yearsgetting the belt from Roman
Reigns just to join and help himget his bloodline back.
How does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
It really doesn't.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know?
I mean, like I said, kevinOwens is doing his best heel
work I've seen in a long time.
I mean, he's using the shirts,making fun of everybody with the
shirts.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Oh yeah, he has some loaded shirts.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, those shirts man.
He's not playing around withthose shirts, man.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Especially the Naomi shirt.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That was crazy oh yeah, the Naomi, shirt yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I wonder what kind of shirt he's going to wear at
night, though I don't know.
I feel like it's going to besomething like Sami Zayn or
Randy Orton related.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, it may be Cody Rose.
He might be Cody Rose.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, that might make more sense.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
He's done everybody in Cody's family except for
Goldust.
He ain't done Goldust yet hehasn't dressed up for Goldust.
He hasn't gotten Goldust yet.
He hasn't dressed up as Goldust.
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I can't remember Goldust I know that was Stardust
.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, he did Stardust .
He did a bunch of Dusty shirts.
Like I said, he did RandyOrton's dad, naomi.
He does Sami Zayn.
You know he's done a bunch ofshirts.
I haven't seen him do a DustinRose or a Goldust shirt yet.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Maybe he'll bring it out tonight maybe, but yeah, he
has been trolling and he's beenright.
I mean he's 100% right.
I mean you can't say KevinOwens is wrong on anything.
You say Even somebody whodoesn't like Kevin Owens, you
can't say he's wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Because he's right.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You know what would be crazy though Don't want to
cut you off, but you know whatwould be crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
What's that?
Or a Mama Rose shirt.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, that'd be a good one.
That'd be a good one rightthere, but yeah, I don't know.
I just don't see.
I want to see Kevin Owens win.
Man, cody Rose does not need awin.
Kevin Owens needs a win.
Like they said on SmackDownyesterday, kevin Owens has not
(17:13):
won at the Royal Rumble yet.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
He's 0-5 in matches, not including the actual Royal
Rumble itself.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So he's 0-5 in matches at Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Including losing Logan Paul last year why'd he
even lose that?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
that's what I'm saying.
So Cody Rose is not needed.
That can give him anopportunity to wrestle Kevin
Owens at WrestleMania in arematch.
And whoever wins the men'sRoyal Rumble match goes against
Gunther.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And a prediction If Kevin Owens doesn't win, I feel
like he's definitely going to bein the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh yeah, Whoever loses is going to be in the
Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And who knows, cody Rhodes may win the Royal Rumble,
just so he can challenge KevinOwens again.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
He shouldn't have a three-peat.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
He really shouldn't Nobody ever three-peated before.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
When Stone Cold did.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
He repeated, not three-peated.
Stone Cold has three wins, butthere were only two of them
back-to-back.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So Cody is tied with a couple guys for two times
back-to-back.
I don't think anybody, becauseevery time I bailey yesterday on
the kickoff show she'll be tiedwith Cody and Stone Cold.
And I think Hogan is the onlyguys with two straight Cody.
If he wins, if he answers itand wins it, he'll win three.
(18:45):
That'd be tied with most ofStone Cold.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think Stone Cold has three wins.
I want to say Kevin Owens, man.
I really want to say KevinOwens is going to win this.
I'm going to say Kevin Owenstoo, man.
I'm going to go out and sayKevin Owens too, man, just go
ahead.
I cannot say Kevin Owens is notgoing to win this man, he has
(19:10):
to win this match.
He needs to win this match.
Cody will be okay if he loses.
Oh, yeah, definitely I mean,because this storyline, the feud
between them, we get it.
We know, we know Cody Rhodesloses this match.
Yeah, we get it.
We know, we know Cody Rose cando this match.
He's not going into as afavorite, he's injured and all
that.
So if Kevin Owens wins, it'snot a surprise, but he needs to
(19:34):
win.
You know he needs to win.
So I mean, that's what I said Iwould let you know if I'm Kevin
, I'm going there.
I'm attacking every body part.
Man, Everything is hurting Neck, knee, shoulder, everything.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I think Kevin Owens is either going to hit a
piledriver or is going to getinterrupted by somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, I mean, who knows?
Like I said, sami Zayn may come, randy Orton may come back, who
knows who may come back?
I mean we have no idea.
That's the whole point of thisis we have no idea what's going
to happen, but we're just goingto see who we think is going to
happen.
But yeah, I think Sammy,they've been leaking up Sammy
Zane too much for him not to beinvolved at all.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
He has to be involved some kind of way, Otherwise why
would you, why would you?
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So I don't, you know, he has to win, he has to be
involved some kind of way.
I would think Mm-hmm, but yeah,I mean, that's just my opinion
anyways.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
But is that what you're going to say about that?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, yeah, I got Kevin Owens winning.
Like I said, he should win it.
If he doesn't win, we ride.
No, I'm just kidding.
But yeah, no, kevin Owensshouldn't win this match.
But I just, I don't know, it'stoo close to WrestleMania,
unless, unless there's somethingelse planned.
I don't see, I don't know man,I want Kevin Owens to win.
(21:02):
I'm not going to even say KevinOwens, I'm not going to put out
that Cody Williams is going towin, kevin Owens is going to win
, kevin Owens is going to win,period.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I like the confidence .
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I don't want to say yo and jinx it and mess it up
and Cody Williams.
So we're going to say KevinOwens wins, but for the main
event.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
it's the Men's Royal Rumble, and this is like the
most stacked men's Royal Rumblealmost ever.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen one this
stacked.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, I'm sure there was one Like I wasn't born then.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But yeah, you got.
It's John Cena's last one.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Roman Reigns hasn't been in one since he defended
the belt, mm-hmm, you rememberhe defended the belt.
Wait, you remember he defendedthe belt in the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, was that last year.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
No, no, no, he was actually in the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Whoever won the Royal Rumble won the belt, and this
is Triple H won it.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I can't remember him being in one after that.
He has the belt for four years.
He had the belt for four yearshe had the belt for.
So he's wrestled at Roy Rumbles, but he hasn't been in one in a
while.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So I mean I remember, yeah, that one for sure I can't
remember.
I know he was in one when AJStyles debuted and then he was
in the one.
He was in a few of them, he wona couple.
So yeah, I mean, then you gotSeth Rollins, cm Punk, drew
McIntyre, sami Zayn Usos, damianPriest I'm sure Omos is going
(22:39):
to be in the match because ofthe Royal Rumble.
Yeah uh who?
Jacob fatu?
Oh yeah, I'm sure they're gonnahave solo come in there.
You cannot put, not put solo inthere, uh, I mean really though
yeah, you have to, you have to,you have to, man he hasn't been
(23:00):
on tv and like forever hehasn't, but why not you?
What was the whole point of thebuild up for him and not put
him in the Royal Rumble?
And then the nominations.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
He showed up for two seconds.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, who else the Rock's not going to be in it?
I don't think I don't see theRock being in it.
I don't see the Rock being init.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I don't see him being in the Royal Rumble.
He's just a straight toWrestleMania guy now there's
this crazy rumor that the Rockcomes out at number 31 because
of his executive power after 30comes out 5, 4, 3 if there's 30
people and they say the winnerof this is going to win, all of
(23:45):
a sudden you hear a countdown 31and the rock comes out.
Yeah, I can see that.
That'd be a that'd be.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
that'd be a cool way to have a rock um making his
authority, you know and theother way he could come out and
just like a random number, orlike just come out randomly,
eliminate Roman ranks and thenjust walk out.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Are we going to have any surprises?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh, I'm sure there'll be at least one.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Who do you think is going to be the big surprise?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
though.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Because there's always one big return or debut
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I got two, I think.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I'm going to press my luck.
Say his name and he appears Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Hendry, that was one of them.
That was one of mine what'syour second one?
The other one I was going tosay is the beast, brock Lesnar
they've been talking about thebeast a lot more they have been
saying it.
They have been saying the beasta lot of times, so I'm going to
say that too.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So A lot of times, so I'm going to say that too, yeah
.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know.
So hey, okay, but but yeah,brock Lesnar is coming back and
Joe Hensley appears.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
We see what kind of See what kind of the crowd
reaction he gets.
Now, how do you think they'regoing to set it up, as you were
going to say, what if Joe Hendrycomes?
How do you think they're goingto set it up?
Say his name and he appears.
Or just have him out there.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Somebody may have a sign.
I'm thinking they're going todo the sign thing.
Somebody's going to have a sign.
They're thinking they're goingto do like the sign thing.
Somebody's going to have a sign.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
They're going to show the sign before he comes out,
uh-huh, and then we'll see howthat goes.
I mean, the crowd is not goingto know the crowd, you know.
You don't hear the announcerson the crowd anyway, so it's all
a surprise to the crowd.
Uh-huh, you know so, but yeah.
But yeah, joe Higgins is goingto come out.
Let's see what the crowd,because this is going to be his
biggest crowd by far.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
We're going to see if the Because you know, wwe
crowds are different NXT crowds.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So some people don't even watch TNA or NXT, which is
crazy.
Yeah, some people don't evenwatch that stuff.
So we'll see if he gets the bigreaction like he should get.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh yeah, he was like the main thing on TNA.
He's the World HeavyweightChampionship, the World
Heavyweight Championship.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Do we get some guys from TNA?
Because you know, I don't knowif he's going to go by his TNA.
His real name, nick Nemeth Wait, hold on.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Another return.
What's?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Aleister Black.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yes, right, I forget, he is coming back.
He's coming back.
He's not in AEW anymore.
Yeah, I haven't heard them sayHouse of Black in a month or two
.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
They haven't even said House of Black.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I haven't heard them say House of Black.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Give me Malachi too.
Just throw Malachi in there.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It's the same person.
Malachi and Aleister are thesame person.
Sebastian Aleister Black andMalachi Black are the same
person.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That's my bad.
That's my bad, that's really mybad.
I met Buddy Matthews.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, buddy Matthews is not coming over.
You have to get AEW to workwith WWE.
That's not happening right now.
That's not happening Because,especially with the whole Penta
and Reyoenix ray phoenix thing,like that's not happening right
now.
They're not, they're not gonnabe in the same arena right now
yeah, wait, why not?
(27:18):
Did you not?
You know why ray phoenix isn'tthere right now I forgot he's
still in the contract to aw ohhe is.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I thought he was done with that.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
He's supposed to be done but they added some extra
time because he got hurt, I meanhe broke his leg.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I think they're just trying to keep him as long as
possible.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yep, keep him off TV.
But yeah, him and Penta signedon the same day, so their
contract should end at the sametime.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Oh yeah, definitely that's bogus on AEW's part.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well, Ray Phoenix got injured, and so when?
He got injured, they added someof his injury time to his
contract.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
They're so lucky he got injured because they just
got a chance to extend thecontract.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, the good thing about that, though, is when his
contract does run out, hensonwill be so over with the crowd
that when they, when they bringhis brother in man, they can
have to refute each other.
They can have them tagging eachother.
They can bring them inseparately, you know, they can
do a lot of things, but theydon't have to bring them in
together one thing that I I'mreally excited for and one thing
(28:24):
that I hope they don't do.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
First of all, I'm really excited that selena vegas
out of the lwo oh yeah, she'son smackdown now, yeah and
another thing I really hope thatthey just don't insert penta or
ray phoenix into the lwo no,they shouldn't, they shouldn't,
they shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
They don't look like they're gonna do it, because if
they did, they would alreadydone it already yeah, probably
they would have had it alreadyand he hadn't even yet even
showed him with the lwo.
Probably they would have hadhim with Rey Mysterio.
You haven't even showed himwith the LWO yet.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, they would have had him with Rey Mysterio, and
then he would have joined theLWO.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And I kind of know this all the time.
I need to see what they do.
New Day, better man, new Day.
They're getting a lot of heat,man.
Let them win some matches.
Let them win some matches.
I know it's a long build, Iknow you gotta be patient, but
let them win some matches.
They're making them lose.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
How is Kofi Kingston gonna lose to Rey Mysterio?
What does that do for ReyMysterio?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Nothing, that's what I'm saying.
So maybe after the Rory Rumble,the New Day, start winning and
they really start giving them anice little heel run.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I mean to be honest.
I want to see Xavier Woods winthe build.
I want to see him win thesingles build.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
How could it be all the former New?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Day.
Yeah, because I mean the Shielddid it.
All of them had to win worldchampions at one point in time.
Oh yeah, that's fair.
Two out of three of what's thegroup Three-man band for world
champions.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Wait, that's Jinder Mahal right.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Jinder Mahal, drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Heath Slater.
Why did Jinder Mahal even win?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I don't know, I'm just saying, but he won and Drew
McIntyre won.
Heath Slater was the only onewho didn't win, but he hadn't
made it to the B yet.
He hadn't came back to the Byet either.
That'd be a nice little reunion, right there.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
With them three coming back.
Had them three come back in theRoyal Rumble and kind of do a
reunion of three on B.
I mean I know Drew McIntyreprobably wouldn't go for it.
He'll probably eliminate bothof them because of that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, it would be like real heat if
they're all together.
Yeah, getting ready to do it,and then he eliminates both of
them.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Exactly.
I mean perfect.
That'd be perfect, that's whatI would do, but I don't know how
Jinder Mahal and Heath Slaterrelationship is with WWE right
now, so I can't tell you how.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Isn't Jinder Mahal still signed?
He had a match with Rollins.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You said what now?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Isn't Jinder Mahal still signed?
He had a match with SethRollins and had that damn
segment with the Rock.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, I don't think he signed anymore.
If he was signed, he'd be on TValready.
He ain't been on TV in a while.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, I think he got released at the same time.
I believe when everybody elsegot released was it last year he
literally never appeared.
Yeah, they only appeared a fewtimes, but you know all of them.
That got released at the sametime last year.
Mm-hmm, you know Elias and allof them.
I think he got released withall of them.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So, but yeah, I mean.
So who do you got winning thematch?
Oh yeah, we.
So who do you got winning themen's Royal Rumble match?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Oh yeah, we have to get to that, okay.
So for me, I really don't know.
I'm stuck between two.
I'm really stuck between two.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I either got CM Punk because he needs to have a
WrestleMania main event or Ihave the 16-time world
heavyweight champion just WWEchampion John Cena.
I have one of those two.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
So you said John Cena , who else?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Or CM Punk, cm Punk, I think it's going to be the
final two.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, cm Punk, though that's a I don't know, because
he left originally because hewasn't the main event at
WrestleMania.
That's one of the reasons heleft WWE originally.
Anyways, he was a worldchampion and he wasn't the main
event.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
He should have been inserted with cena in the rock
or something like that yeah,like you had john cena in the
rock as the main event that yearand you don't have to deal and
cm was champion, so that was notitle match, wasn't it?
What the rock and and john cena, yeah was it yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
was it how much I know.
One of them was a title match.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, but like I said , you had CM Punk was the world
champion for a whole year andthen when he wrestled in your
main event, yeah, that doesn'tmake any sense.
Exactly so.
Do you give him that and lethim win a Royal Rumble and let
him main event WrestleMania forthe first time, or do you keep
having him work toward it andlet somebody like John Cena or
(33:13):
Roman Reigns or somebody likethat.
I don't think Roman Reigns isgoing to win either.
He shouldn't.
He doesn't need it.
He does not need it right now.
Let him go.
Let him build without the beltright now.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, and he has the Una Fala, so he's good anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Let that story still bear it.
You still got Jacob Fatu goingout crazy.
Right now you can have them twowrestle each other.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I feel like he's eventually going to come after
that, una Fala.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Exactly the same way Solo did.
The same way Solo did, he stoleit.
But Jacob is typing.
He's going to go after it andtry to get it from him again,
you know?
So who do?
I got winning I'm not going tosay Drew McIntyre, because he
won last year.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Last year.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Didn't he win last year?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
No, that was like 2020.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Who won last year?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
That was Cody.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's right.
I'm sorry, cody.
Drew McIntyre fought SethRollins.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
But you know who was the runner-up in that?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Who was that?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
CM Punk.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
We got hurt last year , though.
Yeah, that's why, he didn't win, oh he made it all the way to
the end.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
He was like 27, I think, and then it was him and
Cody and I think he would havewon if he didn't get hurt.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, I don't know man.
Sammy Zane needs it.
He deserves it.
Man, I don't know man.
I mean, if Brock Lesnar comesback, he's going to win it.
He shouldn't Are you sure?
About that.
He's not.
I don't think he should, but hecould.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I mean, who's going to eliminate him?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Exactly who's going to eliminate him?
Whoever eliminates him is goingto have a match against him
Whoever eliminates Brock Lesnar.
If he comes back, whoevereliminates Brock Lesnar will be
having a match against him,because he is not going to let
that down.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You know why I'm saying John Cena, though?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Because I think he's going to challenge Gunther and
then CM Punk is just going toearn opportunity, maybe with
that favor from Paul Heymanagainst Cody Rose.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh yeah, we don't know what that favor is yet, do
we?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
People are speculating that it's like
pulling Roman Reigns off therope or like something.
Or it could be him helping himget a match, like you said, at
the WrestleMania I think it'sgoing to be it, because I think
John Cena is going to win andthen he's going to face Gunther
and then CM Punk is just goingto earn an opportunity with the
favor against Cody, because thatfavor.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
They've been talking about that favor.
Too much for it not to be a bigdeal, you know so.
But yeah, I don't know.
We'll see how that goes though.
Yeah, we'll see how that goesthough.
Yeah, we'll see how that goeswith that.
Yeah, but yeah, but anyway.
(36:15):
So you got, yeah, who do I got?
You got a lot to do.
You got a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Who'd you pick?
I picked John Cena.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, you picked John Cena.
I'll go see a punk.
Just because I'll go see a punk.
Yeah, I'll go see a punk forthe win, okay, but yeah,
anything else you want to talkabout?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
No, Okay, but yeah, all right man.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Anything else you want to talk about?
No, okay.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Well um.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Any more predictions, surprises, anything else before
you wrap this up?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I have a prediction on the final four.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Okay, what's that?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Drew McIntyre, roman Reigns, cm Punk and John Cena.
Okay, what's that?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
drew mcintyre, roman reigns cm punk and john cena.
Drew mcintyre cm punk.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Roman reigns john cena and you could trade out
drew mcintyre for someone likesammy zane or like seth rollins
yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
They've been building him up too big.
I'm gonna say jacob jacob towin the.
No to be in the Final Four.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh, I was about to say.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I wouldn't mind him winning it, but he's not going
to win that.
He's going to be the Final Four.
I'm going to have Jacob Fatuwin it.
Jacob Fatu, CM Punk, John Cena.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Are you saying Roman Reigns or Drew McIntyre?
Speaker 2 (37:47):
That's what I'm trying to figure out, because if
Jacob's in it, does heeliminate Roman Reigns?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I feel like he does and then it's Drew McIntyre
either Drew McIntyre or JacobFatu wins no elimination.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I'll go with Drew McIntyre, because that way it
leads to Roman Reigns WrestlingJacob at WrestleMania.
So, yeah, I'll go, drewMcIntyre.
Jacob John Cena, cm Punk FinalFour.
Yeah, wow, yep.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
But yeah, I think that's it.
That's all my predictions.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, that's all I got, too, man.
Alright, this has been anotherepisode of yeah, I think that's
it.
That's all my predictions.
Yeah, that's all I got too, man.
So alright, this has beenanother episode of I'm Ben, I'm
Bash.
Another episode of Tag TeamTalk.
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