May 24, 2025 • 30 mins
The Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk delivers predictions for the upcoming Saturday Night’s Main Event, analyzing each match on the four-match card and breaking down potential outcomes.
• Drew McIntyre vs Damian Priest in a steel cage match likely ends their long-running rivalry with Drew favored to win
• Seth Rollins and Bron Breakker with Paul Heyman forming an Evolution-like group, possibly adding a fourth member soon
• CM Punk and Sami Zayn teaming against Rollins and Breakker with trust issues potentially affecting their performance
• John Cena facing R-Truth in a non-title match that could feature a surprising finish or potential heel behavior
• Logan Paul challenging Jey Uso for the World Heavyweight Championship with Gunther potentially making an appearance
• The NBC/Peacock simulcast format will include numerous commercial breaks during matches unlike typical WWE premium events
Don't miss Saturday Night Main Event on NBC and Peacock to see if our predictions come true
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ben I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, here we are for another one.
We are going to be doing ourpredictions for Saturday night's
main event, yep, you know.
So they only come around what,what like?
four or five times a year, maybeyeah so they used to do it back
in the day.
Only time they came on recordtv was saturday main event.
So they're going to be doing aum, I think a simulcast with nbc
(00:36):
and peacock.
So it's going to be a lot ofcommercials, so just because you
gotta get that part of it.
But it's gonna be a lot ofcommercial breaks which you're
not gonna be used to during thematches of a PLE event.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But yeah, this is barely like a premium live event
.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, it's kind of like a special presentation kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's almost like a bumped up SmackDown.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, but just matches.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, with no promos or anything but uh.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
But yeah, let's get to it for the first match on the
card, it's damian prees versusdrew mcintyre, and it's still
cage match.
And for this one, um, thisrivalry has been going on for
what feels like an eternity.
But um, personally, I think thestory is just built up to this
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point and I think this is goingto end the rivalry.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Do you agree?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, I mean hope, so Right Imean for Damien's sake, cause
you know Drew don't let anythinggo, he's gonna.
Because you know Drew don't letanything go, he's going to keep
fighting until he winsregardless, Damien's sake.
Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Damien does.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean Drew's the one who started it back up.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is it really though?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Damien thought it was over with.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, that was Drew.
Remember he went after the UStitle title and then Damien
Pritchett attacked him onSmackDown.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, but I mean they both, they both.
Neither one of them wanted tofinish it yeah so neither one of
them, neither one of them wasdone.
But you know, here we are.
So, basically, Damien just didthe same thing to Drew that
Drew's been doing to everybodyelse, so neither one of them was
ready to force the end.
But so, yeah, this should be agood one, though I mean, it's
(02:27):
not going to be the best match,it's just going to be one of
those hard-hitting spectacle ofa match.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, depending on the other matches, it might be
the best match, but I know whatyou mean.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah yeah, it could be the best match as far as like
just matches, but Steel Cagematch.
Usually those aren't the bestmatch as far as like just
matches, but still cage match.
Usually those aren't the bestmatch as far as like just pure
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah, definitely for not wrestling but
like the entertainment purposes.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, so you got who you got going for that match.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I have a Drew McIntyre winning, and
potentially winning this entirerivalry.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Winning the entire rivalry.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay, Drew McIntyre's just been on a slump of losing
rivalries.
Just think about it SethRollins, CM Punk and he's been
pretty bad in this one too, withlosing, Except for WrestleMania
.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I can see that.
I can see that that makes sense.
So you got Drew winning.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Who do I got winning.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Damien needs to win more.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Does he?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He lost at WrestleMania?
Yeah, he lost at Mania.
When was the last time he wonSince he lost the WrestleMania?
Yeah, lost at mania.
When was last time you won?
Since he lost the worldchampionship?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I imagine has he won hey, he was a lot of matches as
he yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'm saying he hasn't won many.
I mean something, damon needsit more, but do I think he's
going to win this match?
I don't know.
I mean, drew's been on a tearrecently.
I think he's trying to get backinto the title picture, but
there's nowhere for him to goright now.
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So he's kind of stuck in theWell.
He's not stuck because Jacob isbringing the United States
Championship up a little bit.
So it's not really saying he'sstuck in the mid-card, because
that's not really a mid-card aslong as Jacob and LA Knight know
guys?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, because they've got a lot of time to shine,
since John Cena is a reallypart-time champion.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Exactly so Jacob and them guys were kind of it's not
really a mid-card belt right now.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's kind of a yeah, it's like the main attraction,
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Exactly so, um I I want to see Drew and and and and
and, and I want to see thatrobbery, yeah, so, as much as I
want Damien to win, wait, whatdo you mean?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
you said you want, you see, drew McIntyre or Damien
Prince against Jacob.
I want to see Drew McIntyre andJacob Fatu so what makes you
think that that would elevatehim to go against Jacob Fatu if
he just takes a fat?
L Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No, he's not.
That's what I'm saying.
I want Damien to win, but whatI'm saying is I want to see Drew
and Jacob more.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
In my eyes, he's the number one contender, yeah
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I want Damien to win, because he needs to win more,
but I just want to see that DrewMcIntyre and Jacob Fatu even
more, and I want Damian to win.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So I mean it's a hard pick to pick.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm going to pick Drew McIntyre for the win In a
hard-fought battle.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, I pick Drew as well, but um Wait, is that Drew
the same?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
for that.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, I'm done with that one yeah, for the second
match on the car, it's CM Punkand Sami Zayn versus Seth
Rollins and Brian breakthroughwith Paul Hume in their corner.
So this new group of SethRollins, I don't think we got to
talk about this but this newgroup of Seth Rollins is like
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people are saying it's likeevolution type, but they get to
add a third.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I was just thinking that evolution had a
third, but the problem is okay.
Here's the problem, though.
Here's the problem.
Here's the question.
Yeah, okay, evolution, yeahRight, who's the original
Evolution?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Ric Flair, triple H Batista and Randy Orton.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, mm-hmm.
So are we saying Paul Heyman'sRic Flair?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, because he's the oldest, the veteran.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay so, and then we're saying Seth Rollins is
Triple H.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And then Brown Breaker is Batista in my opinion
.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Batista yes, they need a Randy Orton, mm-hmm.
So who's their Randy Orton?
I know who I think should betheir Randy Orton.
What do you think?
It's not going to happen.
But I know who I think shouldbe their Randy Orton.
Who Austin Theory?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh yeah, that's what people have been saying Austin,
theory should be, but Hold on,can I talk about something?
Yeah, what On Raw, do youremember?
Austin Theory was getting like.
Austin Theory chants in thecrowd.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I mean him and Grayson Rawler.
That's a long breakup.
They should have been broke up.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Maybe they'd do that at SummerSlam, like there's
people who are like, actuallylike one in Austin, like on
SmackDown I mean not onSmackDown, on Raw.
There was two people chantingfor Austin.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I thought that died down.
Yeah, that should have been abreakup.
That should have been a breakuplast year it seemed like, but I
don't know, but uh, maybesomebody we're not thinking
about.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, people have been throwing out, people like
Heron Cross, even Ethan Page.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Ethan Page is a good one.
That is a good one, ethan Page.
I was thinking about somethingabout NXT.
Ethan Page is a really good one.
Mm-hmm, ethan Page is a reallygood one.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I mean I would say you could bring up Randy's son,
but he's kind of stuck in arobbery right now at NXT.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Miles Bourne.
I thought you were saying, butI wasn't sure that's what people
call him, randy.
He looks kind of like a smallerversion of Randy Orton yeah, he
kind of does he wrestles likeRandy Orton a little bit.
He does the power slam and allthat kind of stuff.
Only thing he doesn't do is theRKO if he starts doing that, he
(08:49):
even has the bald head, likeold Randy Orton.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But, um, but yeah, I don't know.
Um, yeah, they need to get afourth member, maybe that, maybe
that fourth member debutstonight.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well, I think so.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe, or they may, because SummerSlam is August, so
August, I thought it was JuneJuly.
No, the next one is Money inthe Bank.
Money in the Bank is the nextone in June.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I thought SummerSlam was always in July.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It may be in July.
Sometimes July, sometimesAugust it varies Kind of like
WrestleMania, sometimes April,sometimes August.
It varies, yeah, kind of likeWrestleMania is sometimes in
April, sometimes in May.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I know, for some reason, or sometimes March,
sometimes in March, sometimes inApril.
Sometimes.
One time I remember SummerSlamwas in June, for some reason,
yeah, like right after.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Money in the Bank?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
It's usually June, july, augustsometimes, but so Money in the
Bank is next month for sure, oris it this month, june?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, so it's June and then, oh yeah yeah, it's in
March, so it has to be.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
June.
So, yeah, june is Money in theBank, and then you have Summer
Slam, which is July, august.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So they have about another month or two before
Roman comes back, or about acouple weeks before Roman comes
back, roman's going to come backeventually and he's going to be
at SummerSlam, we know.
Roman comes back Roman's goingto come back eventually and he's
going to be at SummerSlam.
We know that.
Obviously he's going to be atSummerSlam and he's going to
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feud with Seth Rollins and RonBreaker in that group.
I'm pretty sure he's going tojoin CM Punk and join that group
to fight Ron Breaker in thatgroup to fight.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Brown Breaker and that group Right?
No, that's all you write RightNow.
Here's the question.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Do they drag this out into Survivor Series?
That's a long drag out.
They would have to.
They would have to break it upa little bit and have them go
out to individual titles, yeah,and like and do other things.
And then have them go out toindividual titles yeah and like
and do other things and thenhave them come back.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean the bloodline, drug it out until survivor
series and also kind of thejudgment day, because they,
because they, um, because theywere like fighting, oh, it felt
like almost like a year straighton every single monday I mean
the bloodline, drug it out tosurvivor series.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't see why you can't drag this out with those
guys, especially with CM Punkand Seth Rollins and Sami.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Zayn.
Yeah, but they would have tohave, so I think there's going
to be a third member, right?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There has to be, or a fourth member.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, technically.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
If we count Paul Heyman.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, if we count Paul, it's probably going to be
Cody Rose on that team withRoman Reigns and all of them, if
they do decide to put him onthe team.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't think Cody Rose is going to come back on
the team.
He probably won't come back tothat.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You don't think so.
No, no, oh, probably Jey Uso.
Yeah, probably Jey.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Uso, maybe no, he's going to be.
He got the bill.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Ohlam, he's going to have his hands full for Money in
the Bank.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Is the Money in the Bank going through the wrestling
?
It's Money in the Bank, right?
I have no idea.
Yeah, money in the Bank, but uh, yeah, I mean, roman Reigns is
going to come back.
We know that, but he's notcoming back right now.
Maybe Money in the Bank, maybeafter that, but he's going to be
back before SummerSlam, we knowthat for sure.
Yeah, but um, yeah, I hope thatfourth member should debut
(12:35):
tonight.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I think they should hold it out until SummerSlam.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
No, SummerSlam is when they had a match with the
fourth member oh.
Well, unless you want to dragit out, but you have to drag it
out with just them three.
Yeah, drag it out, but you haveto drag it out with just them
three.
I mean you can, because youhave Paul Heyman, seth Rollins,
cm Punk and Sami Zayn.
You got four good talkers andfour veterans who can easily
tell a story and make itcompelling, and all that good
(13:02):
stuff.
So I mean technically, yes, youcan do that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But yeah.
But for who to win the match?
I have Seth Rollins and BraunBreaker.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, that's a pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Especially with the ever-limit presence of a fourth
member, and also Paul Heyman,you know.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And it's just Braun Breaker and Seth Rollins.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, I mean it also is CM Punk and Sam, to be fair.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Unless they bring Roman Reigns back tonight.
No, unless, it's like aSaturday Night Main Event.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
But I think it's too small of a show to bring Roman
Reigns.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Exactly.
That's why I don't think either.
So if they don't, if nothing,if nobody debuts or anything,
paul.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I was going to say Paul.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Brown Breaker and Seth Rollins wins.
Yeah, for sure.
That's who I got to.
I got doing the same thing.
So Paul Brown Breaker, sethRollins wins easily.
Not easily, but you know, theywin just cause they're more,
they're a team, they're actuallyworking together.
Yeah, and CM Punk already hastrust issues.
Exactly, and then Sami Zayndoes too, so we know how that
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goes.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, and is that what we're going to see?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, that's it for that one.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And for the next match on the card, it's John
Cena versus R-Truth in a normalone-on-one match.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
They finally did it what they finally let R-Truth in
a normal one-on-one match.
They finally did it.
They finally let R-Truthwrestle, his childhood hero.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But yeah, there's something I was going to say.
I tried to remember.
I saw one person on socialmedia say that little Jimmy was
going to turn on R2.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Hey, he could.
Who knows, I mean by this beinga.
So here's my, here's my thought.
Yeah, by this being a non-titlematch, something's going to
happen.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, exactly Because , like, like it being a
non-title match, because likewhy not just slap the title in
there?
But if they're going to have anon-title match, it's like
almost the chance that R-Truthcan win, but like I don't see it
.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Like it's almost like that little carrot right there,
like it's almost like R-Truthis going to win this match
because it's a non-title match.
Yeah, but it's also like it's anon-title match, so it's like
R-Truth could win it.
But it could just be justbecause John Cena won't put the
(15:35):
title on against R-Truth becausehe didn't earn it.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's just a fight.
John Cena's supposed to fighthim, you know, just because you
know, out of respect, but whynot give R-Truth?
Here's my thing too, though,like why not give R truth?
Here's my thing too, though,like why not get our truth to
respect to get him a title match?
Uh, I don't mean the man hasbeen busting, the man has been
(15:59):
putting work in for 20, over 20years in wwe yeah, does he have
a longer career than john cena?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
about the same, about the same.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I know, I know he's older than john, than John Cena.
About the same.
About the same.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I know he's older than John Cena.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's about the same.
As far as WWE goes, it's aboutthe same.
Well, he left, remember he?
Well, you don't remember, buthe was in WC.
Oh true, he was in.
He was cake quick.
No, I'm not saying WWE, not WWEcareer overall overall, I think
he has a longer wrestlingcareer than John Cena, but WWE,
I think, is about the samebecause he was in I can't
(16:34):
remember WCW or he was in eitherWCW or WWE first yeah he was.
He was K-Quick.
I think it was WWE first.
Yeah, wwe first.
He was K-Quick.
He left there, went to TNA whenTNA first started, which was
(16:54):
early 2000.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Became R-Truth or Ron Killens there, rather not
R-Truth, ron.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Killens.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Mm-hmm, Became world champion oh he did.
He was world champion in TNA orNWA at the time Mm-hmm, the
same belt that Joe Hendry hasright now.
He was champion and then cameback to WWE and hadn't won a
world championship since.
So he's literally been in WWEputting work in for years and
(17:22):
hadn't sniffed a worldchampionship.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I mean he's won some mid-card belts since he's been
there and he has won 54 24-7championships.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'm pretty sure yeah the greatest ever 24-7 champ,
but I mean he's put in work andso like, at least give him.
I would have gave him therespect.
Obviously he's not going tobeat John Cena for the belt, we
know that, but at least give himthe respect of putting the
title on the line for, have itsay, world championship match.
(17:54):
But by being a non-title match,it's kind of it's kind of
looking kind of like it's goingto be some kind of some kind of
um, something's going to behappening.
It seems like you know, wait aminute.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I don't know why, but I could see Travis Scott coming
at it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, he's done, he's done.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Love you right now.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't think he's, I don't think he's coming out
right now.
I don't, I don't think, I don'tsee that right now but there
just has to be something.
Why would he come?
Why would he come out, man?
I mean he could with the wholeR-Tr thing.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
There has to be something.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think something's going to happen by being a
non-title match, but I think itmay be going against John Cena,
you know what I mean.
But yes, I think it's going tobe going against John Cena and
maybe I just don't see R-Truthbeating John Cena, even in a
(18:53):
non-title match.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Okay, here it is R-Truth, beating John Cena even
in a non-title match Maybe okayhere it is R-Truth wins by
disqualification.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
There it is, yeah, yeah yeah, I think that's going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
There it is he wins by disqualification.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I don't want to see that happen.
I think that could be the wayR-Truth wins, and also, you know
, yeah, I definitely see thathappening now that you said that
, but I don't know.
I just want to see a full matchbetween these two.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just got a feeling that John Cena's going to turn a
super heel and just like beat,because R-Truth is like one of
the biggest babyfaces in thecompany.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah and hold on.
R-truth does not get the credit.
He in the company.
Yeah and hold on R-Truth doesnot get the credit.
He can put on amazing matches.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Of course, that's what I'm saying, and so I think
that John Cena is going todestroy R-Truth.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, I don't know about destroy, but I think it
will end in defeat.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
No, I think he's going to like turn super heel
and get the crowd like Likesquash match, no offense, but
the crowd is still cheering JohnCena yeah, he has to do
something to get the crowd toturn against him, to boo him.
Yeah, because right now they'restill cheering for him.
(20:03):
And so if he was to take outR-Truth and destroy R-Truth one
of the biggest babyfaces if thatdoesn't turn the crowd against
you, nothing will.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Even with Randy Orton , he couldn't turn the crowd in
his hometown.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
They were still cheering afterJohn Cena.
They were still cheering forJohn Cena.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I would find that disrespectful if I was Randy
Orton in my hometown.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Exactly so.
That's the problem.
You're right here too.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
So I'm going to go R-Truth winning, but body
qualification Because John Cenabeats him down so bad that the
ref stops the match.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know what?
Actually, I'm going to just goplaying out John Cena, john Cena
, yep.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Wait a minute.
Have we picked the same people?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Except for this one.
Yep, Except for that one wejust picked.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I don't want to lose from this one match.
You'll be all right, I justdon't lose.
I haven't lost in a while.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You lost at WrestleMania.
What are you talking about?
Oh, yeah, I got swept atWrestleMania, didn't I, mm-hmm?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Oh shoot, how did I get swept at WrestleMania
weekend?
I forgot about that.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You know why, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Are you sure I got swapped?
I think I won one of them.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You got one match Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You got one match, I think, or a couple, maybe one or
two matches maybe yeah, butyeah, so I'm going to say, I'm
going to say R2, just so I don'tlose but then it's going to be
a tie, so I'm going to say,jonathan, okay.
It works For the next or forthe main event.
(21:42):
I'm saying Jey Uso versus LoganPaul for the World Heavyweight
Championship.
Logan Paul's winning.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'm just kidding.
No, he's not winning, okay,okay.
I don't want to see you on theside.
He's not winning.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
No, he's not winning, okay, okay okay, no, I'll, just
, I don't want to see you on theside.
He's not winning.
No, go ahead, I agree.
But for a second I was thinkinglike what if Logan Paul did win
?
He's not winning.
And then I remember theSaturday night, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean this would be a time to turn a title, but I
just don't see Logan.
I mean Logan Paul is probablygoing to win a title eventually
because, hate him or not or likehim, Whatever you feel about
Logan Paul, he sells tickets.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Wait, hold on.
You can get back to that, but Ifeel like if this was at Money
in the bank, I would see loganpaul winning yeah, if this is a
bigger, if this is a bigger ple,then logan paul had would have
a better chance.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But yeah, a way better.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
But what I'm saying is like, whether you, like logan
paul, dislike them, hate them,don't care about them, whatever
the case might be, yeah, peoplepay money to still see them.
You know, it's kind of.
It's kind of like.
It's kind of like the old, likeFloyd Mayweather, for instance.
Right, yeah.
Like people who like FloydMayweather, people that hated
(23:02):
Floyd Mayweather, it didn'tmatter.
People bought.
People bought tickets to seethem and people bought the
pay-per-views to watch them.
Either you watched them, youwanted to watch them win or you
wanted to watch them lose, butyou still bought tickets and
paid money for their previews.
So, whether you hated them oryou liked them, you still
(23:23):
watched.
That's how Logan Paul isWhether you like them or you
don't like them, you still watchthem.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I know this one person who goes to wrestling
shows just to boo Logan Paul.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Of course, a lot of people do that.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
But yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So who do you got on this one?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh yeah, I obviously got Jadon, so Jadon.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
So, mm-hmm, anything, just straight up match.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I think Logan Paul uses the brass knuckles, but it
doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Think Gunther or anybody like that interferes in
the match.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Nope, surprisingly.
No, I don't see that happening.
I think Logan Paul tries to usebrass knuckles.
It works, but it just doesn'tput Jay away.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Gotcha, gotcha.
Okay, I'm also going with JeyUso for the OP.
Obviously, do you have any?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
interferences Gunther like anything.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I mean Gunther may come out.
I don't think he's going tointerfere, but he may come out
to try to just distract them.
But I don't think he's going toactually interfere in the match
.
I think he respects the ringenough not to do that.
But I think he may come outjust to put his face out there.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And why do they build up Logan Paul versus Gunther so
much it wasn't really a buildup.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It was just Gunther letting Logan Paul know that I
don't like you.
I don't care who you are.
If you win, I'm going todestroy you too.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
He was kind of buttering up for a second.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying he logan paul thought he
was buttering up to him, butgunter was letting him know if
you beat jay uso, I'm gonna beatyou up like I did pat mcafee
yeah, he didn't beat up yes, hedid.
He beat pat mcafee up.
Did you not not hear MichaelCole screaming stop the match,
stop the match.
It's over.
Did you not see that?
(25:16):
Did you not hear that Pat gotsome?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
decent offense.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
He did, but it was almost a squash match, not
really.
It was close, it was just likea sloppy like.
A sloppy squash match.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's what going through istelling logan paul if you win,
I'm gonna do the same thing toyou.
(25:40):
So good luck.
And jay was already knows whatthe deal is.
He's already fought goingthrough many times yeah so but
yeah, so I got jay was sowinning going to being out there
, not interfering in the match,but just being out there showing
his face yeah that's all youhave for that that's it.
(26:02):
That's all I got for thatalright.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Well, that's the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Surprisingly, only four matches on the card yeah,
like I said, it's like a specialattraction, more so than an
actual PLE, cause it's notreally a.
It's like a simulcast for NBCand Peacock, so it's going to be
a lot, of, a lot of commercialbreaks during the matches.
So you're going to it's goingto be a lot of, it's going to be
a lot of matches that you'renot going to be able to see the
(26:25):
whole thing it's going to.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's one of those things to drag in older fans
like old well it's gonna be forpeople who don't have, who don't
have Peacock either.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's so you can.
It's so you can be on regular.
This is on regular TV yeah so,whether you this is on, whether
you have cable or Peacock, afternight you can watch this.
If you have it's a regularantenna, you can watch this,
it's on.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
NBC.
See, I do not like this showbecause it has commercial break.
It just draws me away from theentertainment.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's the point.
But it's a regular TV.
So here's the thing.
That's why wrestling comes oncable, Like SmackDown comes on
USA.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, it still does.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
SmackDown comes on USA.
Unless you live out of thecountry, it comes on Netflix.
Then Raw comes on Netflix.
Nxt comes comes on USA.
Unless you live out of thecountry, it comes on Netflix.
Then Raw comes on Netflix.
Nxt comes on CW.
Yeah, you know, all of a suddencome on cable, because with
network TV the commercials are alittle different than it is
with cable TV, and so that's why.
That's why Saturday Night MainEvent is a little different,
because the commercials are alittle more.
(27:33):
they don't really care aboutwhat's going on, they only got a
commercial yeah you know that'slike right when football is on,
like they kind of try to gocommercial doing timeouts if
they can or they have a.
So if you watch, if you so Iknow now we're talking about
wrestling right now, but if youwatch football and basketball,
right, they, if you ever watchthem, you know you watch them
(27:56):
they have what they call TVtimeouts, remember.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That means that's not a timeout, that's not the
team's timeout.
That's the TV, that's a TV show, the station NBC, abc, cbs,
whatever Fox, that's the channelthat the sports is on telling
the game.
Hey, hey, you should go oncommercial break, so y'all stop
playing wait, it actually doesthat yeah that's what tv, that's
what this?
What tv?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
timeout me oh, I thought I thought it was just
for the viewers.
I didn't know.
They actually stopped playing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, that's what tv timeout means it's a timeout.
It's a free timeout that theplayers get because it's a tv
timeout I haven't seen that.
Yeah, wait is it just?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
commercials.
Is it just commercials?
Is it just the commercials?
Even in like the play?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, now, sometimes they might still play, sometimes
they might still play, but alot of times they'll stop
playing.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, because Because Wait a minute.
Yeah, I'm thinking of that.
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Usually they call TV, because when they have
commercials timeout, they'llactually stop the game.
Sometimes that means thetimeout's a timeout.
You know so.
But wrestling's a littledifferent.
You can't stop wrestling in themiddle of the match.
No, no.
You can't stop in the middle ofthe match.
You can't have Logan Paul andJey Uso wrestling and then be
(29:10):
like hold on, y'all.
Stop for a second.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And just lay down and they relax.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And they relax in the middle of a commercial.
You can't do that, so you haveto keep wrestling.
So if it's a commercial breakin the middle of that match or
the CM Punk match, the CM Punkand Tammy Zayn and yeah, that
definitely wouldn't make sense,because they want to tear each
other apart.
Exactly.
You can't say oh hold y'all,the commercials gonna come on,
y'all need to stop for a second.
You can't do that yeah so it'sgonna be a commercial break in
(29:35):
the middle of a match.
See, the smart thing to dowould be to wait until in
between matches yeah, like yeah,then why don't you just do that
?
Because it's not enoughcommercials.
You need more commercials.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
That would be one, two, probably five commercials
if they spaced it out good.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Exactly so you need more than that, so you have to
put something in between thematches.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Do they, though?
Five commercials sounds prettygood.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Nah, you still need more than that, though.
That's the problem with beingon network TV, just like on
regular TV, like when they're oncable.
They can kind of space it outbased on what's going on.
I mean, even on see, remember,even when you're watching Raw
and SmackDown, it goes oncommercial during the matches.
Yeah, but this isn't a MaraSmith and this is a kind of PLE.
(30:20):
Exactly, but it's the sameconcept though, where it's going
on commercial during the match,so it's going to go on TV takes
more, more commercial breaks.
I'm pretty sure yeah butanyways, got to subject a little
bit there, but yeah, well,anything else to add uh, nope, I
(30:41):
think that's it alright.
So, with that being said, I'mBen.
I'm back in the episode of TagTeam Talk.
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ben I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, here we are for another one.
We are going to be doing ourpredictions for Saturday night's
main event, yep, you know.
So they only come around what,what like?
four or five times a year, maybeyeah so they used to do it back
in the day.
Only time they came on recordtv was saturday main event.
So they're going to be doing aum, I think a simulcast with nbc
(00:36):
and peacock.
So it's going to be a lot ofcommercials, so just because you
gotta get that part of it.
But it's gonna be a lot ofcommercial breaks which you're
not gonna be used to during thematches of a PLE event.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But yeah, this is barely like a premium live event
.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, it's kind of like a special presentation kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's almost like a bumped up SmackDown.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, but just matches.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, with no promos or anything but uh.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
But yeah, let's get to it for the first match on the
card, it's damian prees versusdrew mcintyre, and it's still
cage match.
And for this one, um, thisrivalry has been going on for
what feels like an eternity.
But um, personally, I think thestory is just built up to this
(01:31):
point and I think this is goingto end the rivalry.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Do you agree?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, I mean hope, so Right Imean for Damien's sake, cause
you know Drew don't let anythinggo, he's gonna.
Because you know Drew don't letanything go, he's going to keep
fighting until he winsregardless, Damien's sake.
Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Damien does.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean Drew's the one who started it back up.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is it really though?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Damien thought it was over with.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, that was Drew.
Remember he went after the UStitle title and then Damien
Pritchett attacked him onSmackDown.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, but I mean they both, they both.
Neither one of them wanted tofinish it yeah so neither one of
them, neither one of them wasdone.
But you know, here we are.
So, basically, Damien just didthe same thing to Drew that
Drew's been doing to everybodyelse, so neither one of them was
ready to force the end.
But so, yeah, this should be agood one, though I mean, it's
(02:27):
not going to be the best match,it's just going to be one of
those hard-hitting spectacle ofa match.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, depending on the other matches, it might be
the best match, but I know whatyou mean.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah yeah, it could be the best match as far as like
just matches, but Steel Cagematch.
Usually those aren't the bestmatch as far as like just
matches, but still cage match.
Usually those aren't the bestmatch as far as like just pure
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, yeah, definitely for not wrestling but
like the entertainment purposes.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, so you got who you got going for that match.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I have a Drew McIntyre winning, and
potentially winning this entirerivalry.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Winning the entire rivalry.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay, Drew McIntyre's just been on a slump of losing
rivalries.
Just think about it SethRollins, CM Punk and he's been
pretty bad in this one too, withlosing, Except for WrestleMania
.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I can see that.
I can see that that makes sense.
So you got Drew winning.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Who do I got winning.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Damien needs to win more.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Does he?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
He lost at WrestleMania?
Yeah, he lost at Mania.
When was the last time he wonSince he lost the WrestleMania?
Yeah, lost at mania.
When was last time you won?
Since he lost the worldchampionship?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I imagine has he won hey, he was a lot of matches as
he yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'm saying he hasn't won many.
I mean something, damon needsit more, but do I think he's
going to win this match?
I don't know.
I mean, drew's been on a tearrecently.
I think he's trying to get backinto the title picture, but
there's nowhere for him to goright now.
(04:21):
So he's kind of stuck in theWell.
He's not stuck because Jacob isbringing the United States
Championship up a little bit.
So it's not really saying he'sstuck in the mid-card, because
that's not really a mid-card aslong as Jacob and LA Knight know
guys?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, because they've got a lot of time to shine,
since John Cena is a reallypart-time champion.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Exactly so Jacob and them guys were kind of it's not
really a mid-card belt right now.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's kind of a yeah, it's like the main attraction,
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Exactly so, um I I want to see Drew and and and and
and, and I want to see thatrobbery, yeah, so, as much as I
want Damien to win, wait, whatdo you mean?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
you said you want, you see, drew McIntyre or Damien
Prince against Jacob.
I want to see Drew McIntyre andJacob Fatu so what makes you
think that that would elevatehim to go against Jacob Fatu if
he just takes a fat?
L Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No, he's not.
That's what I'm saying.
I want Damien to win, but whatI'm saying is I want to see Drew
and Jacob more.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
In my eyes, he's the number one contender, yeah
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I want Damien to win, because he needs to win more,
but I just want to see that DrewMcIntyre and Jacob Fatu even
more, and I want Damian to win.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So I mean it's a hard pick to pick.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm going to pick Drew McIntyre for the win In a
hard-fought battle.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, I pick Drew as well, but um Wait, is that Drew
the same?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
for that.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, I'm done with that one yeah, for the second
match on the car, it's CM Punkand Sami Zayn versus Seth
Rollins and Brian breakthroughwith Paul Hume in their corner.
So this new group of SethRollins, I don't think we got to
talk about this but this newgroup of Seth Rollins is like
(06:26):
people are saying it's likeevolution type, but they get to
add a third.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I was just thinking that evolution had a
third, but the problem is okay.
Here's the problem, though.
Here's the problem.
Here's the question.
Yeah, okay, evolution, yeahRight, who's the original
Evolution?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Ric Flair, triple H Batista and Randy Orton.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, mm-hmm.
So are we saying Paul Heyman'sRic Flair?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, because he's the oldest, the veteran.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay so, and then we're saying Seth Rollins is
Triple H.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And then Brown Breaker is Batista in my opinion
.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Batista yes, they need a Randy Orton, mm-hmm.
So who's their Randy Orton?
I know who I think should betheir Randy Orton.
What do you think?
It's not going to happen.
But I know who I think shouldbe their Randy Orton.
Who Austin Theory?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh yeah, that's what people have been saying Austin,
theory should be, but Hold on,can I talk about something?
Yeah, what On Raw, do youremember?
Austin Theory was getting like.
Austin Theory chants in thecrowd.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I mean him and Grayson Rawler.
That's a long breakup.
They should have been broke up.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Maybe they'd do that at SummerSlam, like there's
people who are like, actuallylike one in Austin, like on
SmackDown I mean not onSmackDown, on Raw.
There was two people chantingfor Austin.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I thought that died down.
Yeah, that should have been abreakup.
That should have been a breakuplast year it seemed like, but I
don't know, but uh, maybesomebody we're not thinking
about.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, people have been throwing out, people like
Heron Cross, even Ethan Page.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Ethan Page is a good one.
That is a good one, ethan Page.
I was thinking about somethingabout NXT.
Ethan Page is a really good one.
Mm-hmm, ethan Page is a reallygood one.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I mean I would say you could bring up Randy's son,
but he's kind of stuck in arobbery right now at NXT.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Miles Bourne.
I thought you were saying, butI wasn't sure that's what people
call him, randy.
He looks kind of like a smallerversion of Randy Orton yeah, he
kind of does he wrestles likeRandy Orton a little bit.
He does the power slam and allthat kind of stuff.
Only thing he doesn't do is theRKO if he starts doing that, he
(08:49):
even has the bald head, likeold Randy Orton.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But, um, but yeah, I don't know.
Um, yeah, they need to get afourth member, maybe that, maybe
that fourth member debutstonight.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well, I think so.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe, or they may, because SummerSlam is August, so
August, I thought it was JuneJuly.
No, the next one is Money inthe Bank.
Money in the Bank is the nextone in June.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I thought SummerSlam was always in July.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It may be in July.
Sometimes July, sometimesAugust it varies Kind of like
WrestleMania, sometimes April,sometimes August.
It varies, yeah, kind of likeWrestleMania is sometimes in
April, sometimes in May.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I know, for some reason, or sometimes March,
sometimes in March, sometimes inApril.
Sometimes.
One time I remember SummerSlamwas in June, for some reason,
yeah, like right after.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Money in the Bank?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
It's usually June, july, augustsometimes, but so Money in the
Bank is next month for sure, oris it this month, june?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, so it's June and then, oh yeah yeah, it's in
March, so it has to be.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
June.
So, yeah, june is Money in theBank, and then you have Summer
Slam, which is July, august.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So they have about another month or two before
Roman comes back, or about acouple weeks before Roman comes
back, roman's going to come backeventually and he's going to be
at SummerSlam, we know.
Roman comes back Roman's goingto come back eventually and he's
going to be at SummerSlam.
We know that.
Obviously he's going to be atSummerSlam and he's going to
(10:36):
feud with Seth Rollins and RonBreaker in that group.
I'm pretty sure he's going tojoin CM Punk and join that group
to fight Ron Breaker in thatgroup to fight.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Brown Breaker and that group Right?
No, that's all you write RightNow.
Here's the question.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Do they drag this out into Survivor Series?
That's a long drag out.
They would have to.
They would have to break it upa little bit and have them go
out to individual titles, yeah,and like and do other things.
And then have them go out toindividual titles yeah and like
and do other things and thenhave them come back.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean the bloodline, drug it out until survivor
series and also kind of thejudgment day, because they,
because they, um, because theywere like fighting, oh, it felt
like almost like a year straighton every single monday I mean
the bloodline, drug it out tosurvivor series.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't see why you can't drag this out with those
guys, especially with CM Punkand Seth Rollins and Sami.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Zayn.
Yeah, but they would have tohave, so I think there's going
to be a third member, right?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There has to be, or a fourth member.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, technically.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
If we count Paul Heyman.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, if we count Paul, it's probably going to be
Cody Rose on that team withRoman Reigns and all of them, if
they do decide to put him onthe team.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't think Cody Rose is going to come back on
the team.
He probably won't come back tothat.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You don't think so.
No, no, oh, probably Jey Uso.
Yeah, probably Jey.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Uso, maybe no, he's going to be.
He got the bill.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Ohlam, he's going to have his hands full for Money in
the Bank.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Is the Money in the Bank going through the wrestling
?
It's Money in the Bank, right?
I have no idea.
Yeah, money in the Bank, but uh, yeah, I mean, roman Reigns is
going to come back.
We know that, but he's notcoming back right now.
Maybe Money in the Bank, maybeafter that, but he's going to be
back before SummerSlam, we knowthat for sure.
Yeah, but um, yeah, I hope thatfourth member should debut
(12:35):
tonight.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I think they should hold it out until SummerSlam.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
No, SummerSlam is when they had a match with the
fourth member oh.
Well, unless you want to dragit out, but you have to drag it
out with just them three.
Yeah, drag it out, but you haveto drag it out with just them
three.
I mean you can, because youhave Paul Heyman, seth Rollins,
cm Punk and Sami Zayn.
You got four good talkers andfour veterans who can easily
tell a story and make itcompelling, and all that good
(13:02):
stuff.
So I mean technically, yes, youcan do that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But yeah.
But for who to win the match?
I have Seth Rollins and BraunBreaker.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, that's a pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Especially with the ever-limit presence of a fourth
member, and also Paul Heyman,you know.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And it's just Braun Breaker and Seth Rollins.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, I mean it also is CM Punk and Sam, to be fair.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Unless they bring Roman Reigns back tonight.
No, unless, it's like aSaturday Night Main Event.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
But I think it's too small of a show to bring Roman
Reigns.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Exactly.
That's why I don't think either.
So if they don't, if nothing,if nobody debuts or anything,
paul.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I was going to say Paul.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Brown Breaker and Seth Rollins wins.
Yeah, for sure.
That's who I got to.
I got doing the same thing.
So Paul Brown Breaker, sethRollins wins easily.
Not easily, but you know, theywin just cause they're more,
they're a team, they're actuallyworking together.
Yeah, and CM Punk already hastrust issues.
Exactly, and then Sami Zayndoes too, so we know how that
(14:14):
goes.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, and is that what we're going to see?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, that's it for that one.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And for the next match on the card, it's John
Cena versus R-Truth in a normalone-on-one match.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
They finally did it what they finally let R-Truth in
a normal one-on-one match.
They finally did it.
They finally let R-Truthwrestle, his childhood hero.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But yeah, there's something I was going to say.
I tried to remember.
I saw one person on socialmedia say that little Jimmy was
going to turn on R2.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Hey, he could.
Who knows, I mean by this beinga.
So here's my, here's my thought.
Yeah, by this being a non-titlematch, something's going to
happen.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, exactly Because , like, like it being a
non-title match, because likewhy not just slap the title in
there?
But if they're going to have anon-title match, it's like
almost the chance that R-Truthcan win, but like I don't see it
.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Like it's almost like that little carrot right there,
like it's almost like R-Truthis going to win this match
because it's a non-title match.
Yeah, but it's also like it's anon-title match, so it's like
R-Truth could win it.
But it could just be justbecause John Cena won't put the
(15:35):
title on against R-Truth becausehe didn't earn it.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's just a fight.
John Cena's supposed to fighthim, you know, just because you
know, out of respect, but whynot give R-Truth?
Here's my thing too, though,like why not give R truth?
Here's my thing too, though,like why not get our truth to
respect to get him a title match?
Uh, I don't mean the man hasbeen busting, the man has been
(15:59):
putting work in for 20, over 20years in wwe yeah, does he have
a longer career than john cena?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
about the same, about the same.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I know, I know he's older than john, than John Cena.
About the same.
About the same.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I know he's older than John Cena.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's about the same.
As far as WWE goes, it's aboutthe same.
Well, he left, remember he?
Well, you don't remember, buthe was in WC.
Oh true, he was in.
He was cake quick.
No, I'm not saying WWE, not WWEcareer overall overall, I think
he has a longer wrestlingcareer than John Cena, but WWE,
I think, is about the samebecause he was in I can't
(16:34):
remember WCW or he was in eitherWCW or WWE first yeah he was.
He was K-Quick.
I think it was WWE first.
Yeah, wwe first.
He was K-Quick.
He left there, went to TNA whenTNA first started, which was
(16:54):
early 2000.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Became R-Truth or Ron Killens there, rather not
R-Truth, ron.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Killens.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Mm-hmm, Became world champion oh he did.
He was world champion in TNA orNWA at the time Mm-hmm, the
same belt that Joe Hendry hasright now.
He was champion and then cameback to WWE and hadn't won a
world championship since.
So he's literally been in WWEputting work in for years and
(17:22):
hadn't sniffed a worldchampionship.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I mean he's won some mid-card belts since he's been
there and he has won 54 24-7championships.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'm pretty sure yeah the greatest ever 24-7 champ,
but I mean he's put in work andso like, at least give him.
I would have gave him therespect.
Obviously he's not going tobeat John Cena for the belt, we
know that, but at least give himthe respect of putting the
title on the line for, have itsay, world championship match.
(17:54):
But by being a non-title match,it's kind of it's kind of
looking kind of like it's goingto be some kind of some kind of
um, something's going to behappening.
It seems like you know, wait aminute.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I don't know why, but I could see Travis Scott coming
at it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, he's done, he's done.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Love you right now.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't think he's, I don't think he's coming out
right now.
I don't, I don't think, I don'tsee that right now but there
just has to be something.
Why would he come?
Why would he come out, man?
I mean he could with the wholeR-Tr thing.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
There has to be something.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think something's going to happen by being a
non-title match, but I think itmay be going against John Cena,
you know what I mean.
But yes, I think it's going tobe going against John Cena and
maybe I just don't see R-Truthbeating John Cena, even in a
(18:53):
non-title match.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Okay, here it is R-Truth, beating John Cena even
in a non-title match Maybe okayhere it is R-Truth wins by
disqualification.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
There it is, yeah, yeah yeah, I think that's going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
There it is he wins by disqualification.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I don't want to see that happen.
I think that could be the wayR-Truth wins, and also, you know
, yeah, I definitely see thathappening now that you said that
, but I don't know.
I just want to see a full matchbetween these two.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just got a feeling that John Cena's going to turn a
super heel and just like beat,because R-Truth is like one of
the biggest babyfaces in thecompany.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah and hold on.
R-truth does not get the credit.
He in the company.
Yeah and hold on R-Truth doesnot get the credit.
He can put on amazing matches.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Of course, that's what I'm saying, and so I think
that John Cena is going todestroy R-Truth.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, I don't know about destroy, but I think it
will end in defeat.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
No, I think he's going to like turn super heel
and get the crowd like Likesquash match, no offense, but
the crowd is still cheering JohnCena yeah, he has to do
something to get the crowd toturn against him, to boo him.
Yeah, because right now they'restill cheering for him.
(20:03):
And so if he was to take outR-Truth and destroy R-Truth one
of the biggest babyfaces if thatdoesn't turn the crowd against
you, nothing will.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Even with Randy Orton , he couldn't turn the crowd in
his hometown.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
They were still cheering afterJohn Cena.
They were still cheering forJohn Cena.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I would find that disrespectful if I was Randy
Orton in my hometown.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Exactly so.
That's the problem.
You're right here too.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
So I'm going to go R-Truth winning, but body
qualification Because John Cenabeats him down so bad that the
ref stops the match.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know what?
Actually, I'm going to just goplaying out John Cena, john Cena
, yep.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Wait a minute.
Have we picked the same people?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Except for this one.
Yep, Except for that one wejust picked.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I don't want to lose from this one match.
You'll be all right, I justdon't lose.
I haven't lost in a while.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
You lost at WrestleMania.
What are you talking about?
Oh, yeah, I got swept atWrestleMania, didn't I, mm-hmm?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Oh shoot, how did I get swept at WrestleMania
weekend?
I forgot about that.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You know why, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Are you sure I got swapped?
I think I won one of them.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You got one match Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You got one match, I think, or a couple, maybe one or
two matches maybe yeah, butyeah, so I'm going to say, I'm
going to say R2, just so I don'tlose but then it's going to be
a tie, so I'm going to say,jonathan, okay.
It works For the next or forthe main event.
(21:42):
I'm saying Jey Uso versus LoganPaul for the World Heavyweight
Championship.
Logan Paul's winning.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'm just kidding.
No, he's not winning, okay,okay.
I don't want to see you on theside.
He's not winning.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
No, he's not winning, okay, okay okay, no, I'll, just
, I don't want to see you on theside.
He's not winning.
No, go ahead, I agree.
But for a second I was thinkinglike what if Logan Paul did win
?
He's not winning.
And then I remember theSaturday night, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean this would be a time to turn a title, but I
just don't see Logan.
I mean Logan Paul is probablygoing to win a title eventually
because, hate him or not or likehim, Whatever you feel about
Logan Paul, he sells tickets.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Wait, hold on.
You can get back to that, but Ifeel like if this was at Money
in the bank, I would see loganpaul winning yeah, if this is a
bigger, if this is a bigger ple,then logan paul had would have
a better chance.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But yeah, a way better.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
But what I'm saying is like, whether you, like logan
paul, dislike them, hate them,don't care about them, whatever
the case might be, yeah, peoplepay money to still see them.
You know, it's kind of.
It's kind of like.
It's kind of like the old, likeFloyd Mayweather, for instance.
Right, yeah.
Like people who like FloydMayweather, people that hated
(23:02):
Floyd Mayweather, it didn'tmatter.
People bought.
People bought tickets to seethem and people bought the
pay-per-views to watch them.
Either you watched them, youwanted to watch them win or you
wanted to watch them lose, butyou still bought tickets and
paid money for their previews.
So, whether you hated them oryou liked them, you still
(23:23):
watched.
That's how Logan Paul isWhether you like them or you
don't like them, you still watchthem.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I know this one person who goes to wrestling
shows just to boo Logan Paul.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Of course, a lot of people do that.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
But yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So who do you got on this one?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh yeah, I obviously got Jadon, so Jadon.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
So, mm-hmm, anything, just straight up match.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I think Logan Paul uses the brass knuckles, but it
doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Think Gunther or anybody like that interferes in
the match.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Nope, surprisingly.
No, I don't see that happening.
I think Logan Paul tries to usebrass knuckles.
It works, but it just doesn'tput Jay away.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Gotcha, gotcha.
Okay, I'm also going with JeyUso for the OP.
Obviously, do you have any?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
interferences Gunther like anything.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I mean Gunther may come out.
I don't think he's going tointerfere, but he may come out
to try to just distract them.
But I don't think he's going toactually interfere in the match
.
I think he respects the ringenough not to do that.
But I think he may come outjust to put his face out there.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And why do they build up Logan Paul versus Gunther so
much it wasn't really a buildup.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It was just Gunther letting Logan Paul know that I
don't like you.
I don't care who you are.
If you win, I'm going todestroy you too.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
He was kind of buttering up for a second.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying he logan paul thought he
was buttering up to him, butgunter was letting him know if
you beat jay uso, I'm gonna beatyou up like I did pat mcafee
yeah, he didn't beat up yes, hedid.
He beat pat mcafee up.
Did you not not hear MichaelCole screaming stop the match,
stop the match.
It's over.
Did you not see that?
(25:16):
Did you not hear that Pat gotsome?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
decent offense.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
He did, but it was almost a squash match, not
really.
It was close, it was just likea sloppy like.
A sloppy squash match.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's what going through istelling logan paul if you win,
I'm gonna do the same thing toyou.
(25:40):
So good luck.
And jay was already knows whatthe deal is.
He's already fought goingthrough many times yeah so but
yeah, so I got jay was sowinning going to being out there
, not interfering in the match,but just being out there showing
his face yeah that's all youhave for that that's it.
(26:02):
That's all I got for thatalright.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Well, that's the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Surprisingly, only four matches on the card yeah,
like I said, it's like a specialattraction, more so than an
actual PLE, cause it's notreally a.
It's like a simulcast for NBCand Peacock, so it's going to be
a lot, of, a lot of commercialbreaks during the matches.
So you're going to it's goingto be a lot of, it's going to be
a lot of matches that you'renot going to be able to see the
(26:25):
whole thing it's going to.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's one of those things to drag in older fans
like old well it's gonna be forpeople who don't have, who don't
have Peacock either.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's so you can.
It's so you can be on regular.
This is on regular TV yeah so,whether you this is on, whether
you have cable or Peacock, afternight you can watch this.
If you have it's a regularantenna, you can watch this,
it's on.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
NBC.
See, I do not like this showbecause it has commercial break.
It just draws me away from theentertainment.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's the point.
But it's a regular TV.
So here's the thing.
That's why wrestling comes oncable, Like SmackDown comes on
USA.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, it still does.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
SmackDown comes on USA.
Unless you live out of thecountry, it comes on Netflix.
Then Raw comes on Netflix.
Nxt comes comes on USA.
Unless you live out of thecountry, it comes on Netflix.
Then Raw comes on Netflix.
Nxt comes on CW.
Yeah, you know, all of a suddencome on cable, because with
network TV the commercials are alittle different than it is
with cable TV, and so that's why.
That's why Saturday Night MainEvent is a little different,
because the commercials are alittle more.
(27:33):
they don't really care aboutwhat's going on, they only got a
commercial yeah you know that'slike right when football is on,
like they kind of try to gocommercial doing timeouts if
they can or they have a.
So if you watch, if you so Iknow now we're talking about
wrestling right now, but if youwatch football and basketball,
right, they, if you ever watchthem, you know you watch them
(27:56):
they have what they call TVtimeouts, remember.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
That means that's not a timeout, that's not the
team's timeout.
That's the TV, that's a TV show, the station NBC, abc, cbs,
whatever Fox, that's the channelthat the sports is on telling
the game.
Hey, hey, you should go oncommercial break, so y'all stop
playing wait, it actually doesthat yeah that's what tv, that's
what this?
What tv?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
timeout me oh, I thought I thought it was just
for the viewers.
I didn't know.
They actually stopped playing.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, that's what tv timeout means it's a timeout.
It's a free timeout that theplayers get because it's a tv
timeout I haven't seen that.
Yeah, wait is it just?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
commercials.
Is it just commercials?
Is it just the commercials?
Even in like the play?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, now, sometimes they might still play, sometimes
they might still play, but alot of times they'll stop
playing.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, because Because Wait a minute.
Yeah, I'm thinking of that.
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Usually they call TV, because when they have
commercials timeout, they'llactually stop the game.
Sometimes that means thetimeout's a timeout.
You know so.
But wrestling's a littledifferent.
You can't stop wrestling in themiddle of the match.
No, no.
You can't stop in the middle ofthe match.
You can't have Logan Paul andJey Uso wrestling and then be
(29:10):
like hold on, y'all.
Stop for a second.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And just lay down and they relax.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And they relax in the middle of a commercial.
You can't do that, so you haveto keep wrestling.
So if it's a commercial breakin the middle of that match or
the CM Punk match, the CM Punkand Tammy Zayn and yeah, that
definitely wouldn't make sense,because they want to tear each
other apart.
Exactly.
You can't say oh hold y'all,the commercials gonna come on,
y'all need to stop for a second.
You can't do that yeah so it'sgonna be a commercial break in
(29:35):
the middle of a match.
See, the smart thing to dowould be to wait until in
between matches yeah, like yeah,then why don't you just do that
?
Because it's not enoughcommercials.
You need more commercials.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
That would be one, two, probably five commercials
if they spaced it out good.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Exactly so you need more than that, so you have to
put something in between thematches.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Do they, though?
Five commercials sounds prettygood.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Nah, you still need more than that, though.
That's the problem with beingon network TV, just like on
regular TV, like when they're oncable.
They can kind of space it outbased on what's going on.
I mean, even on see, remember,even when you're watching Raw
and SmackDown, it goes oncommercial during the matches.
Yeah, but this isn't a MaraSmith and this is a kind of PLE.
(30:20):
Exactly, but it's the sameconcept though, where it's going
on commercial during the match,so it's going to go on TV takes
more, more commercial breaks.
I'm pretty sure yeah butanyways, got to subject a little
bit there, but yeah, well,anything else to add uh, nope, I
(30:41):
think that's it alright.
So, with that being said, I'mBen.
I'm back in the episode of TagTeam Talk.
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