November 1, 2024 • 38 mins
Can Kevin Owens' transformation back to his ruthless prizefighter persona shake up the WWE landscape? Join us on the latest episode of Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk as we dissect the electrifying card for the upcoming Crown Jewel event, including a showdown between Gunther and Cody Rhodes. Predictions fly as we debate, could a betrayal be on the horizon between Jade Cargill and Bianca Belair? We cover the potential outcomes of Liv Morgan versus Nia Jax, and the looming threat of Tiffany's cash-in adds even more tension. Don't miss our theory about The Rock's strategic maneuvers within the Bloodline, as we speculate on Solo Sikoa's rise and the possibility of a new alliance.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
welcome to the benny bash podcast tag team talks I'm
ben I'm bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the benny
bash podcast tag team talk allright, with another one.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
we are going to be doing our predictions for crown
jewel, which comes on tomorrow,which is Saturday.
It comes on, I think, 1 o'clock, is it 1 pm?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure , yeah.
1 pm.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So yeah, we're doing this one before SmackDown, so
we're not sure what's going tohappen on SmackDown, so we're
just going by what's alreadybeen booked, what's already been
talked about, the matches weknow, that's confirmed and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So let's get to it.
So for the first match, it'sGunther versus Cody Rose and
basically what is a SurvivorSeries match, but it's on Crown
Jewel.
That is basically the wholegist of Crown Jewel, I guess.
Now yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't really like that, because what are you going
to do for Survivor Series?
You got the two men championand two women champion wrestling
each other.
What are you going to do forSurvivor Series?
You got the two men championand two women champion wrestling
each other.
What are you going to do forSurvivor Series?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They don't do that anymore, remember.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I know, but that's what I'm saying.
I mean, that was the wholepremise of Survivor Series was
to put the champ versus thechamps, yeah, and then the war
games match and all that.
But yeah, go ahead, finish yourtalk.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But yeah, but that Gunther is the World Heavyweight
Championship I mean notchampionship champion and Cody
Rose is the SmackDown UndisputedChampion and for this match I
(01:40):
know it's going to be a reallygood match but I just don't like
the crown jewel card togetherwhen I like card but like I just
don't like how it's justbasically stealing survivor
series things.
But this match is pretty muchgonna be a good match and so,
but I think gunther is gonna winbecause I'm pretty sure kevin
(02:03):
owens is to get Wait, yeah,kevin Owens is going to get
involved and Do you know?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
he has a match already.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I guess it depends on what order that match comes in,
if it's before the KevinOwens-Randy Orton match or
afterwards, I guess.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, I mean he could still come afterwards, yeah,
but he got.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Randy Orton to come out and stop him from
interfering in the match.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What if he beats Randy Orton?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's what I'm saying.
If he's out in the match, thenit doesn't matter.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know when they're goingto put that match on.
They could open a show.
It could be close to the mainevent, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So for Guthers versus Cody Rose, I think Guthers is
going to win, but yeah, yeah, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
This is a horror, because I mean nobody loses
their belt if they lose.
So, cody, there's not.
I mean nobody loses.
There's two champions seeingwho the best is.
So even if one of them was tolose, they don't lose their
belts.
So they're still the worldchampion of the day.
(03:06):
But I mean they're going to beover for the crown jewel
championship, whatever they callit.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, okay, cool.
I mean you're the best champ ofthe best too, but at the end of
the day, you're still going tohave your belt.
So, with that being said, justbecause you, I want to go with
Gunther, but because ourpredictions like that, I'm going
to go with Cody.
I'm going to say Cody's goingto win because Kev Jones is not
(03:34):
going to interfere in the match.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And one thing I'm going to say on this match How's
Gunther going to call Cody asecondary champion when he beat
Roman Reigns like one of thelongest reigning champion in the
modern era?
I mean even if Gunther wins,he's still the secondary
champion.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Because, in Gunther's eyes, he thinks that he's a
better champion than Cody, whichmakes Cody a secondary champion
.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He's a better wrestler, but that doesn't make
him a secondary champion.
He thinks he's a betterchampion than Cody, which makes
Cody a secondary champ.
He's a better wrestler, butthat doesn't make him a
secondary champion.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
He thinks he's a better wrestler, champion,
all-around person than Cody Roseis.
So if he thinks all that, ofcourse he's going to say that
Cody Rose is a secondary champto him.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean just the same way Roman Reigns.
He didn't say it, but whenRoman Reigns was the champ for
what?
Four years, whatever it was,everybody who had the Raw
Championship was the secondarychamp to Roman Reigns.
Yeah, I mean, but they mightnot admit it, but they were,
because Roman Reigns was thechamp.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And now Gunther is saying that he's the champ, like
Roman Reigns was.
That's what he's saying.
That's basically what he'ssaying champ, and so Cody is the
guy that's under him.
Now, that's what he's saying.
It makes sense for Gunther,since he thinks he's the best
wrestler in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
If you had that mindset, it probably would make
sense.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's what I'm telling you.
That's what I'm trying toexplain to you why he said that
to Cody, because that's what hethinks.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But for the second match on the card, it's Seth
Freakin' Rollins versus BronsonReed, and for this match I think
it's pretty simple.
I think Bronson Reed not reallyneeds, but he deserves the win
and I think he's going to comeout on top to come out on top.
(05:22):
And I don't think that SethRollins is going to come in 100%
because he got put through thetable on Monday Night Raw, so I
don't know if he's going to comein 100%.
So that's probably going togive the advantage to Bronson
Reed and I think Bronson Reed isgoing to win.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean, seth Rollins is always wrestling hurt
, though, so this is nothing newfor him.
He's always wrestling with somekind of injury.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, but has he ever wrestled Bronson Reed?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
No, that's what I'm saying.
But since Seth Rollins' injuryis going to hurt him, I don't
think that's going to be thereason he loses.
Like Bronson Reed went againstBraun Strowman, well, brunson
Reed went against Braun StrowmanCame back the next week, you
know, I mean Seth Rollins cursedup on the hood of a car, as
Michael Cole said, made a hood.
Not Michael Cole, who was it onRaw?
(06:16):
Wade Barrett, wade Barrett, hemade a hood ornament out of him.
That's what he did when hecursed up on the car.
And then he got right back upLike nothing fazed him.
Then he suplexed him into afireman's carry, basically into
(06:36):
the tables and got right up andSeth Rollins was still laying
there.
So in order for Seth Rollins tobeat Brunson Reed, he has to
beat him up, and I don't seeSeth Rollins being able to do
that in a regular match.
Now, if it was a different typeof match, then maybe Seth
(06:57):
Rollins, but just a regularthing I don't see Seth Rollins
doing enough in a regular match.
The only way I think SethRollins wins this match is if he
can wear Bronson Reed down.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Wears him down, kind of how Raven Sear did the big
show when they wrestled back inthe day and Raven Sear beat the
big show.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But that seems.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But I'm just saying that's the way you have to do it
, though you got a big monsterlike that, just like if you beat
Mark Henry, you gotta beat himdown, you gotta tire him out,
yeah you know, you gotta, yougotta tire him out, beat him
down.
You can't just go in there andjust think you're just gonna
beat him straight up it alsoSeth Rollins, but I pick Russell
Reed yeah, and it's SethRollins.
But I mean it happens.
So I mean, yeah, I like RussellReed.
(07:35):
I've been liking him for aminute, I mean so.
I mean even scene when he was,um, what was his name?
I can't think of what his namewas now, but yeah, he's an
independent wrestler.
Uh, jonah, yeah, he was Jonahon the independent wrestling.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
What type of name is?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Jonah, that was just his name on independent
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Sounds like a high school kid's name.
Yeah, but I'm just saying butanyways.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, even when he was, then I was, I liked him.
So I mean I I liked him.
I want to see Bronson Reed geta little push.
Seth Rollins, yes, he needs towin this match, but he doesn't
need this match.
He's still Seth Rollins at theend of the day.
Bronson Reed is the one whoneeds this win because I think
he got let go from WWE, cameback.
(08:19):
He's been on the tear sincethen Braun Strowman and all that
Miz R-Truth I mean he's beendestroying people.
Seth Rollins, so I think heneeds this push to maybe get
himself into a title shot.
Against who is it?
Braun Breaker, maybe?
yeah or you know something likethat, maybe even against Gunther
(08:41):
in the future, or you know.
Or against Gunther, you know,whatever.
So Maybe even against Guntherin the future, or whoever wins
against Gunther, you know,whatever.
Yeah.
So, I got a bronze for you forthat one.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
For the next match.
It's Ryan Duran versus KevinOwens, and I feel like I've
already talked about this matcha little bit, but I feel like
Kevin Owens.
Well, one thing about thismatch Triple H is talking about
(09:12):
Kevin Owens like he's BrockLesnar or somebody you don't
remember Kevin Owens in Ring ofHonor, do you?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
when he was Kevin Steen, do you?
No, I didn't watch his stuff soif you remember that Kevin
Owens or the Kevin Owens orKevin Steen, he was in Ring of
Honor in independent, if youremember that Kevin Owens or the
Kevin Owens or Kevin Steen, hewas in Ring of Honor and
Independent Wrestling.
And then we remember KevinOwens when he first came to WWE
he beat down Sami Zayn.
He beat up John Cena.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I mean, if that Kevin Owens comes back, ring the
orders in for a long night.
Yeah, so yeah go ahead andfinish what you were saying,
buddy.
But I was just saying KevinSteen and Kevin Owens.
I mean, if he turns into thatperson, because he's been pretty
nice last year or so since he'sbeen with Sami Zayn and him
beating the bloodline and allthat, so they've been a little
(10:00):
bit better, I mean he's been alittle bit more of a you know.
But if the old school KevinOwens comes back, that Kevin
Owens doesn't care about anybody.
The way.
Triple H was talking about RandyOrton.
He doesn't care about anybody.
All he cares about is winningmatches.
It doesn't matter who's infront of him, whether it's best
friend for 20 plus years inSammy or somebody he doesn't
(10:21):
even know.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know like, think about what he did to Sami Zayn.
He actually likes Sami Zayn.
He doesn't like Randy Orton, sothink about what he'd do with
somebody he doesn't like.
But I have a question and RandyOrton had, and what's up.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Um, in the Kiffin Owens, like heel turn, do you
think Sami Zayn is going to havean interaction, but do you
think it's going to have anothermatch?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
No, you can keep them away from each other right now
because we know what happenswhen they get in the ring
together.
It's magic.
We know what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I mean they have never disappointed in any match
they've had over the years.
The last two decades they'vealways had banger matches.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
What about the COVID era?
Wait, you said.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean, since the last 20 years, since they've
been wrestling each other,they've always had good banger
matches.
I haven't seen a bad one.
I mean I've been watching KevinOwens for a while.
I haven't seen him and SamiZayn when he was El Generico in
Ring of Honor.
I've never seen him have a badmatch.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So I keep them away from each other.
You can do that at a later date, obviously.
I mean, we don't know what'sgoing to happen with Sami Zayn,
with the whole Solo and Jey andall that.
We'll get to that later, but wedon't know what's going to
happen with that match.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Is Sami Zayn going to join them or is he going to
stay away from them?
What's going to happen withthat?
But you know, did you pick forthat match already?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
No, but I mean I was going to pick.
Well, not going to, I'mprobably going to pick Kevin
Owens.
I thought you were going topick Randy Orton, no.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I really don't know on this one.
It's really hard.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, it is a hard decision Because I mean you got
Randy Orton, who's I meanbonafide, one of the greatest
ever, depending on who you ask Imean on as a heel.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
They're both like probably close up.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But is Randy Orton a heel?
Right now, though, no he's not.
That's what I'm saying he's notreally a heel right now.
He's kind of transitioningright now I mean he did put his
hands on Kevin Owens first yeah.
I mean, he did put his hands onKevin Owens first, so Kevin
Owens is getting him back payinghim back for it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No, technically Kevin Owens was like all up in his
business, but he didn't touch.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
He didn't touch Randy Orton.
Randy Orton was the one thatpushed him down.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, well it was a punch, but like he pushed,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But I'm saying Randy Orton, put his hands on Kevin
Owens first.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah.
So, so, but this one.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
See, when Kevin Owens did the elbow thing, he thought
that was a security guard.
He didn't know that was RandyOrton, so he had his back turned
to him the security guard.
Think about it.
Before that security guardswere grabbing him and he was
pushing him off right.
So somebody grabbed him frombehind and he just elbowed.
He didn't even turn around, sohe didn't know who that was,
until he turned around andrealized it.
And then that's when RandyWarden hit him and that's when
(13:14):
kind of took Kevin Owens offbecause he didn't mean to do it,
but he still did it though andso, yeah, I'm probably taking
Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
you can also pick Kevin Owens, I know I want to
beat you this time.
Well, you may beat me this time, you can still beat me, maybe I
?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
mean if Cody wins.
But yeah, you said Kevin Owens,that's who you're picking.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, I'm doing the same thing.
I'm going to pick Kevin Owensas well.
Other than Kevin Owens, he'sturning back to the prize
fighter.
Kevin Owens the Kevin Owensthat the guy helped himself into
WWE originally.
I mean the Kevin Owens thatbeat up his best friend after he
won a championship the NXTchampionship in Sami Zayn and
then proceeded to beat him downthe next time.
They wrestled each other.
I mean it was basically abonafide squash match.
(14:02):
Then he came to the main rosterand then beat up John Cena
Probably the greatest of alltime and beat him down.
So I mean, if we can get thatKevin Owens back, people got to
watch out Because he does notcare about anything but belts
and money and that's it.
That's why he's called thePrizefighter.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
What about himself?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Belts and money.
That's himself included Becauseit's his going to him.
Belts is his.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Money is his.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's why he called it prize fighters.
That's what prize fighters arefor.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Prize fighters is an old Wait, so that's an actual
thing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh, I thought that was just Kevin Owens' thing.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
No, no, prize fighters is what they call
boxers like Ali and Tyson andthose kind of guys, mayweather.
We call them prize fighters.
They only fight certain times,but they fight for a lot of
money and they only fight forbills.
That's what a prize fighteractually is Like.
Raheem Ali was back in the day,george Foreman, tyson Holyfield
(14:59):
, lennox Lewis those guys Evennow.
Dante Ryder was at one point.
He's kind of losing a lot ofmatches now, but that's what
Jake Paul is right now.
He's doing the same.
He's not fighting forchampionships, but he's making a
lot of money right now Boxing.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know.
So that's what a prod fighteris.
They only fight for money orbills, that's it, nothing else.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But is that all you were going to say for that match
?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I just want to see the old Kevin Owens come
back, the Kevin Owens that gothim and Dough to be originally.
That's all I want to see.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
So for probably my favorite match on the card LA
Knight versus Andrade versusCarmelo Hayes, la Knight walking
in as the US champion.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
How are you going to say LA Knight's?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
name and not say it the right way.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Because I'm not going to.
Oh yeah, I can see you can't besaying his name, not said the
right way.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
All right, go ahead um, well, for this one.
Well, well, first of all I'mgonna say I really don't like
how they, how game seven ended,but because nobody really won,
because LA Knight's not in thering, because LA Knight's not
(16:11):
yeah since you weren't going todo what I do myself.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
All right, go ahead, I'll stop.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
The end of it.
But LA Knight yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
All right, arndell, that's the last one.
All right, okay, that's thelast one.
That's it, arndell.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The individual that has a name.
He wasn't in the match.
I mean he was a special guestreferee.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
He was in the match.
Referee in the match.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But have you ever seen Charles Robinson win a
match?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
He's not a wrestler.
He's not a US champion either.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He's not a mega star either.
You know what I mean thoughCharles Robinson Lil Nate.
But you know what I mean, though.
I mean, but for this one I'mnot going to go who I think is
going to win.
I'm going to go who I want towin.
Okay, I know it's playing risky, but I just really want Carmelo
Hayes to win.
So I'm picking Carmelo Hayes,who I think is going to win LA
(17:03):
Knight, but I'm actually goingto pick Carmelo Hayes on this
one, because I just really wantto see Carmelo Hayes win this.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
This is a tough one.
La Knight has been a good champso far.
I don't want to see his timerun in so early.
But, like you were saying,Carmelo Hayes is a good wrestler
too.
But he still has time.
He's still young.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Andrade, he just came back.
He was in AEW for a while andthen he came back over here Well
, not a while, but over in AEWfor a minute.
Then he came over here back toWWE, I don't know.
I mean, it's a triple threatmatch too, so technically, la
Knight doesn't have to getpinned to lose the belt.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah so.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Carmelo Hayes could beat Andrade, or Andrade could
beat Carmelo Hayes and LA Knightloses his belt.
That's the only bad thing abouttriple threat matches, so I
don't.
You said Carmelo Hayes right.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm going to pick.
I'm going to go with Andrade,Just be different.
Okay, I'm going to go with.
Andrade beats Carmelo and thatgives him and LA Knight a chance
to feud over the belt, goinginto Survivor Series or Warrior
Rumble or whatever the casemight be.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So is that what you were going to say about that?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I mean this should be one of the better matches on
the card.
I mean, all three of them aregood wrestlers Carmelo Andrade,
LA Knight, they're all goodwrestlers, so this should be a
banger, as Sheamus says, I wouldsay this is probably the best
wrestling match on the card,Just pure wrestling match on the
(18:56):
card right here.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
For the fifth match on the card, it is Jade and
Bianca coming in as tag teamchampions versus Damage Control,
consisting of Io Sky and KairiSane versus Metaphor Last Legend
and Jakara versus Chelsea Greenand Piper Niven, who don't have
(19:21):
a tag team name.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You're not going to do a Chelsea name, nope, okay,
I'm not going to do it either.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm not going to tap.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Nope, not either.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And Chelsea Green and Piper Niven, who don't have a
tag team name, and so for thisone, I think it's pretty well
sliced.
Well, not really for what I'mgoing to say, not really, not
really but I'm going to takedamage control because I just
(19:51):
think that going into the RoyalRumble not going in really, but
getting closer to the RoyalRumble Jade and Bianca should
lose the titles and I think thisis the right stage for it.
And, yeah, I think Biancaca'sgonna take the pin actually and
(20:13):
that's gonna set off jay cargillleading into real rumble and
wrestlemania so who thinks gonnawin though?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
um damage control, damage control yeah okay, and
you think jay's gonna turnbianca?
Yeah, because bianca.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well I, I think bianca's gonna lose.
You don't think Jade's going toturn on Bianca?
Yeah, because Bianca.
Well, I think Bianca's going tolose.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You don't think Bella's going to turn on Jade?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, I think, since Jade's new, she needs the crowd.
Well, actually, that's notgoing to get into the crowd.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, it's going to get the people born there,
because Bianca's a crowdfavorite.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well see, that's how you get the crowd.
You brought up my point umbianca is a fan favorite, so I
just don't think.
I just she's already been here,so I just don't see she was a
heel.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I feel like, I feel like she's gonna be able to do.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
John cena, people who like have basically a heel,
like a heel run and they're justnever a heel again but her
character's a heel.
Talking about it before yeah solike her character is a heel I
mean, but you know yeah, butjust because her character is a
(21:22):
heel doesn't mean she's gonnaturn heel heel.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Like.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Cody Rhodes.
He's probably not going to turnheel in WWE if he does for a
while, if he even does in hisWWE career.
But yeah, for this one I'mpicking Damage Control and I
think Bianca Belair is going totake the pin.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Hmm, this is a hard one Because you got to think the
WWE Tag Team Champions.
Hmm, this is a hard one causecause you gotta think the WWE
tag team champions.
They consist of NXT as well,raw and Smackdown uh, huh so why
so?
why couldn't you?
Why not be Lash and Shakara?
(22:05):
They've been looking prettystrong last couple weeks.
I mean cause you gotta thinkabout Lash, can Shakara?
They've been looking prettystrong the last couple weeks.
I mean because you got to thinkabout Lash.
She can go head-set with any ofthe other women in the match as
far as strength-wise.
She's bigger than Jade andBianca.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
What about Piper and Nimmin?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Piper and Nimmin is bigger, but she's not taller.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean because Lash was a basketball player before
she was a wrestler.
So I mean she's played probasketball, thinking of the WNBA
, before she became the WNBAwrestler.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
But are you sure she's stronger than Bianca and
Jake?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Did you not see her pick up Harper and Evan?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Like the way she picked her up, though Picked her
up pretty easy, Called her andeverything.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Bianca Bellar can do that to.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Nia.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Jax.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
True, but I'm just saying Not like that, though Not
the way Lash called Piper.
Yeah, I mean she called her andcalled her good too.
But yeah, I'm going to go on awild card here.
I mean, I want to see Jade andBianca wrestle each other, so in
(23:03):
order to do that, one of themhas to turn on the other one.
I don't know if Bianca's gonnaturn on Jade or Jade turns on
Bianca, or whatever, whatnot,but I think Lash and Jakara
gonna win.
That way they can go to all thebrands Raw, smackdown, nxt, tna
, wherever you wanna go to theycan go, cause they got tag team
(23:24):
championships.
So for me, I got them winning.
That way they can defend thebelt and that gives Piper I mean
Chelsea and Piper, they deserveit.
Were they tag team championsbefore.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So everybody's been tag team champions, except for
Lash and Jakara.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So yeah, I'm going to go with Lash and Jakara because
they've been looking prettystrong last few weeks.
I mean, they, they beat DamageControl, I mean what I really
like about this match.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Sorry to cut you off, but what I really like about
this match they have a tag teamfrom every single brand I really
like that it's a.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's a Survivor Series match.
That's basically what it is.
It's an old school SurvivorSeries match.
We had all the champs wrestleeach other, but they only have
one WWE Women's Tag TeamChampionship.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah.
So, Mm-hmm, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I'm going to go with Lash and the card for that one.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I just realized.
The NXT, not NXT.
The Intercontinental Champion.
Well, the IntercontinentalChampion, well, the
Intercontinental Championshipisn't on the card that's.
Brian Breaker.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Brian Breaker, that's right yeah, but he just beat
Jimmy.
I mean he just beat Jay andJay's in the match so he doesn't
have anybody to wrestle rightnow.
There's no storyline matches hecan wrestle in right now.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So is that what you want to say about that tag team
match.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, I'm going to go with Lash and Jakara.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So, and for another match on the card is Liv Morgan
coming in as the Raw.
Another match on the card isLiv Morgan coming in as the Raw
Women's World Champion versusNia Jax coming in as the
SmackDown WWE Women's Champion.
And for this one, I thinkActually you know what I'm going
(25:27):
on my instinct for two things.
I think that Nightjax is goingto win, but not walk out as
champion.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Think Tiffany's going to cash in.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Because she'll be the crown jewel champion, but that
doesn't matter, because she'llbe the crown jewel champion, but
that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
but yeah, I think Tiffany Stratton's going to cash
in at this pay-per-view youthink Raquel's going to have
anything to do with it, orDominic or anything like that,
or just going to be her justbeating her straight up?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
well, I said Nia Jax is going to win oh, that's right
.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Nia Jax okay, you think he's gonna be a straight
up or you just think.
You think, um, that's insane.
Same question raquel anddominic gonna get involved or
they're gonna not get involveduh because it's judgment day.
I mean, doesn't they alwayswork together?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't see.
Well, only one of them can well.
Well, dominic and like and theother I don't see.
Well, only one of them can well, dominic and like and the other
crew.
The other members they can getinvolved, but they can't like
hand-to-hand combat.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, but you can distract her.
You can distract her and thenthat can leave.
You can distract the refereeand that leave Raquel doing what
she needs to do with thehijacks.
Yeah, I mean, you know it'shappened before.
So yeah, and it happened in areal ripping match, when they
distracted her and she ended uplosing.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, so, but for this.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Good thing about Liv Morgan.
Well, good thing not for Not agood thing about it, but a good
thing for Liv Morgan is shedon't got to worry about a real
ripley.
She's going gonna be out for along period of time.
I think she broke her eyesocket or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, wait, was that in that when they attacked her?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
yeah, when they attacked her NXT and so, like,
rhea Ripley got attacked, youknow, by Liv Morgan and Rhea
Ripley and attacked, you know,by Liv Morgan and Raquel
Rodriguez.
You saw that on NXT.
And evidently they must havedamaged her enough to put her
out of action for a few months.
They said she broke her eyes,she got an orbital break.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Which those.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You can't wrestle with those, because your eyes
can be swollen up.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, didn't it like an AEW wrestle with that.
Or a Daniel Bryan wrestle witha broken eye socket.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, he didn't have it broken.
It was fractured, which I don'tknow how bad hers is, but I
don't know, so we'll see how itgoes with that.
I mean, she should be backed byRory Rumble.
She should be backed by RoryRumble.
She's going to miss Crown Jeweland probably miss Survivor
Series, but it leads her tocoming back during the Royal
(28:12):
Rumble.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Possibly winning that and challenging Levin Morgan
for the belt at WrestleMania, orRaquel or whoever, yeah, so who
do you have winning?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I have Nia Jax, but I have Tiffany Stratton catching
in.
But I'm going to claim TiffanyStratton as a part of my
prediction.
Okay, I don't know, man, I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Nia Jax has been pretty strong, but Liv Morgan
has been strong too, so I'mgoing to go, especially with
these digital Rhea Ripley.
I'm going to go with Liv Morgan, with the assistance from
Raquel and Dominic.
It's going to beat Nia Jax and,like you said, I think Tiffany
Stratton is still going to cashin.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
On Nia Jax.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
On Nia Jax.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
after the match Okay, but it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Liv Morgan winning, not Nia Jax winning.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But one thing about Nia Jax she was trying to get
Tiffany Stratton to cash inGreat idea, but then she would
have to fight Tiffany Strattonwho.
Nia Jax.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Like, remember, like when she took out.
She don't care, she just don'twant.
She don't want Tiffany Strattonto cash in on her yeah, she
doesn't care about wrestlingTiffany Stratton?
She doesn't.
You know, she doesn't TiffanyStratton.
She's using her to stay closeto her, because if Tiffany
Stratton is always close to her,she can't cash in.
Yeah, because she's alwaysright next to her.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
But didn't Nia Jax and Tiffany Stratton become
friends before?
She won the championship.
I mean not championship moneyin the bank briefcase, were they
?
Yeah, I'm going to have to lookinto that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It might have been around the same time.
I can't remember if it wasbefore or after.
I can't remember for sure.
Yeah, I can't remember for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think they just ran into each other Like not ran
into, Was it during the?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Bailey feud when Nadia Dawson was fueling against
Bailey Was that it maybe Ican't remember.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, but Morgan winning that match and for the
main event at least what I thinkis going to be the main event
Roman rings and the Usos versusthe what people are calling the
(30:20):
Teemu bloodline, consisting ofSolo Sokoa, jacob Fatu and Tama
Tonga, and for this one, I'mpretty sure that Roman Reigns
and the Usos are going to win.
But I don't know how RomanReigns and Jey Uso are going to
(30:40):
play out Because, again, wehaven't watched SmackDown, so we
don't know if they're going tomake up during that or they're
just going to, not really, justcoexist together, yeah.
Like Cody Rose and Roman Reignsbasically yeah, exactly.
But a little bit closer,because they're technically
family.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Well, they are family .
No, it's technically our family.
Yeah, they are family.
Not technically they are family.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, like cousins, Like I was saying technically,
because cousins are like, like.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They're family, though, but it's still family.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Cousins are like brothers are closer than cousins
, Of course.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
We're the same parents, but cousins are just as
close too.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So how many people are in the War Games Smash?
Is it four or five?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
It's well, it varies, but this year I think it's
going to be four.
You don't think it'll be five.
Who Would the tall president ofthe Rock?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I don't know if the Rock's going to wrestle with the
tall guy.
I don't know what he's going tocall his name when he comes to
the B, but he's already beensigned to the B already.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And that's Tama Tonga and Tonga, lola's brother.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
How do you know that he's not going to join them?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I don't know that but what?
Better way to go against thebloodline than to bring in their
brother.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I'll do you one better.
If the Rock does wrestle, howdo you know he's not going to be
on Roman Reigns' side?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I mean look at the way he came out after the match
against Cody.
I mean think about the Rock'sstill mad at what Cody said.
Remember, even though the Rocktalked about Cody first, cody
said something about the Rock'sfamily.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What did he say again ?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
About his granddad be disappointing him or whatever.
Oh yeah, and the Rock slappedhim.
The Rock's still mad at that.
So he doesn't like the factthat Roman Reigns was teaming up
with Cody Rhodes when CodyRhodes talked about their family
.
So I don't know if he's goingto be on Roman Reigns' side.
So think about this for aminute.
Who's to say that the Rockdidn't send Solo to become the
(32:41):
tribal chief?
Who's to say that the Rock isnot behind all this?
Because if Solo all of a suddencomes the idea to become a
proper Chiefs All on his own,nobody's behind the scenes
telling him what to do.
I don't see that.
I mean not me anyways.
I think the Rock may be behindthe scenes, kind of letting solo
(33:02):
because he was.
For one the Rock won tag teammatch.
The Rock won, right, he pinnedwho Wait, hold on, because for
one the Rock won tag team match.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
The Rock won, right, mm-hmm, he pinned who.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Wait.
Hold on In the tag team matchwith the Rock and Roman against
Cody and Seth Rollins.
And Seth Rollins who won thematch.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
The Rock.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Who did he pin?
Cody Rose, cody Rose.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Wasn't the champion, but I see my point he beat Cody
Rose.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, cody Rose beat Roman Re champion, but I see no
point.
He beat cody rose.
Yeah, cody rose beat romanreigns they're rocking.
They lost cody rose notrecently.
I don't remember losing to codyrose, not even back in the day,
I don't think, yeah, that Iknow of, but I'm just saying
recently, when he's been this,this uh final boss character, he
has not lost, he beat.
He beat cody rose who was downthe world.
The undisputed champion, romanreigns, didn didn't do it, he
(33:46):
lost his belt.
You see what I'm saying and so Ithink I don't know if this is
me throwing stuff out herepredictions.
I think the Rock has somethingto do with Solo and think about
Jacob.
Think about what Jay said toJacob.
I mean to Solo Nobody wantedJacob.
He stayed away from him for areason because he's dangerous.
So the Rock can't be the onlyone that talks to him.
(34:09):
The rock is the only one jacobfought to probably respects hold
on and then he brought thetongue is into I'll do you one
better.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
See I I am.
I didn't grow up like backwhere he was a manager to Armago
.
Oh yeah, but Armando, I'm sorry, I don't know who.
His other, estrada, yeah,estrada, I think it's something
(34:37):
like that.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
But I'll do you want.
I can't do the role in the R.
It's like they do it.
I can't do it I do.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
you want better?
How do you know he's not incharge of all that?
I don't think he's not incharge of all that?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I don't think he's in charge, but I think they may
bring him in.
He still is a manager right,he's still a manager, because
Paul Heyman's going to come backwith Roman Reigns, yeah, and
you bring him in to counteractPaul Heyman, but when you do
that, you know who's alsowrestling right now too, who?
Umaga-san, he's wrestling rightnow too, who Umaga's?
(35:10):
Son.
He's wrestling right now.
Oh yeah, so is his name, zillaFatu, I think his name is yeah,
yeah, yeah.
He's wrestling right now.
I don't know if he's ready forWWE yet, but Solo wasn't ready
either when he got called up forNXT.
So who's to say they won'tbring him in?
Uh-huh, Umaga's old managermanaging Umaga's son.
You mix him in with Jacob theTongans and Solo.
(35:32):
That's a dangerous bloodline.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh, you're talking about him on Solo's side.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I thought you were talking about him on Roman's
side, against that side.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, because he's basically dangerous too.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Exactly.
So then you bring him in.
So you got Roman, the Usos, Tomand Tom's brother.
And who else can you bring in?
Sammy, I mean, or do you try tofind another Samoan, I don't
know.
I mean it's going to be four orfive.
I don't know what it's going tobe for the Survivor Series.
It's going to be a war gamesmatch between them.
I don't even see this match.
(36:04):
I don't even think this matchis going to have an ending.
I mean it's going to be anending, but I don't think it's
going to be.
It's going to be controversialto where it's not going to be
finished.
This match?
Yeah, it's not going to beresolved.
Whatever happens, it's notgoing to be resolved.
Like somebody's going to comeout, interfere in the Didn't
(36:28):
Solo debut at the last CrownJewel.
Remember when he was wrestlingagainst somebody?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What match was that?
Was that Crown Jewel or ClassicCastle?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
That was Classic Castle True McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Exactly.
So what's to say that thiswon't happen again with Crown
Jewel, with somebody debutingdoing the same thing,
interfering in the match,causing the Roman Reigns their
bloodline, or vice versa?
Because of the solo end, I justdon't see this match ending in
a definitive clear winner.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I know it's not going to be clean, that's what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't see that happening because you still got
a War Games match.
You got to have a War Gamesmatch for.
Bloodline versus Bloodline.
You got to have that match.
I'm surprised they're havingthis match so early.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, like.
I feel, like the story of RomanReigns and Jey Uso.
I don't think like.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, it should have stretched out a little bit
longer.
I mean, I get you want to putit on the crown jewel.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Jey, uso and Jimmy.
That shouldn't have been soearly, exactly.
But yeah, like they're brothersso that's a pretty tight
connection.
Yeah, but yeah, like they'rebrothers, so that's a pretty
tight connection.
Yeah, but Roman and Jay, ifthey make up and like just like
that, it has to be like one ofthose things where it's a whole
across the night, like how Jimmydid, basically.
(37:42):
But you know, roman Ranks hadlike the una fall around his
neck and he was like was cryingcrocodile tears and then Lobo J,
that should happen, but it'snot crocodile tears.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So yeah, I don't know .
I'm just ready to see whathappens tomorrow, tomorrow
afternoon.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
So yeah, anything else buddy.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, I think that's it , but I'm just going to say this
this is a really stacked card.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It is.
I mean, most of All-I-Crownsare stacked cards, though for
the most part yeah, except whenGoldberg comes around.
I mean that was still a stackedcard.
I mean that's a dream match.
They were just about 10 yearstoo late on that match.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, a blade dream match.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I mean, it was a dream match.
It should have been kept.
A dream.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
It should have been a match.
It was 10 years too late.
They should have had that matchwhen Goldberg first came.
I mean yeah, but anyways, Iwon't get into that one.
But is that it, buddy?
That's all you got yeah.
All right, so this has beenanother episode.
I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
This has been Tag Team Talk.
welcome to the benny bash podcast tag team talks I'm
ben I'm bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the benny
bash podcast tag team talk allright, with another one.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
we are going to be doing our predictions for crown
jewel, which comes on tomorrow,which is Saturday.
It comes on, I think, 1 o'clock, is it 1 pm?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure , yeah.
1 pm.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So yeah, we're doing this one before SmackDown, so
we're not sure what's going tohappen on SmackDown, so we're
just going by what's alreadybeen booked, what's already been
talked about, the matches weknow, that's confirmed and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So let's get to it.
So for the first match, it'sGunther versus Cody Rose and
basically what is a SurvivorSeries match, but it's on Crown
Jewel.
That is basically the wholegist of Crown Jewel, I guess.
Now yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't really like that, because what are you going
to do for Survivor Series?
You got the two men championand two women champion wrestling
each other.
What are you going to do forSurvivor Series?
You got the two men championand two women champion wrestling
each other.
What are you going to do forSurvivor Series?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They don't do that anymore, remember.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I know, but that's what I'm saying.
I mean, that was the wholepremise of Survivor Series was
to put the champ versus thechamps, yeah, and then the war
games match and all that.
But yeah, go ahead, finish yourtalk.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But yeah, but that Gunther is the World Heavyweight
Championship I mean notchampionship champion and Cody
Rose is the SmackDown UndisputedChampion and for this match I
(01:40):
know it's going to be a reallygood match but I just don't like
the crown jewel card togetherwhen I like card but like I just
don't like how it's justbasically stealing survivor
series things.
But this match is pretty muchgonna be a good match and so,
but I think gunther is gonna winbecause I'm pretty sure kevin
(02:03):
owens is to get Wait, yeah,kevin Owens is going to get
involved and Do you know?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
he has a match already.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I guess it depends on what order that match comes in,
if it's before the KevinOwens-Randy Orton match or
afterwards, I guess.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, I mean he could still come afterwards, yeah,
but he got.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Randy Orton to come out and stop him from
interfering in the match.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
What if he beats Randy Orton?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's what I'm saying.
If he's out in the match, thenit doesn't matter.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know when they're goingto put that match on.
They could open a show.
It could be close to the mainevent, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So for Guthers versus Cody Rose, I think Guthers is
going to win, but yeah, yeah, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
This is a horror, because I mean nobody loses
their belt if they lose.
So, cody, there's not.
I mean nobody loses.
There's two champions seeingwho the best is.
So even if one of them was tolose, they don't lose their
belts.
So they're still the worldchampion of the day.
(03:06):
But I mean they're going to beover for the crown jewel
championship, whatever they callit.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, okay, cool.
I mean you're the best champ ofthe best too, but at the end of
the day, you're still going tohave your belt.
So, with that being said, justbecause you, I want to go with
Gunther, but because ourpredictions like that, I'm going
to go with Cody.
I'm going to say Cody's goingto win because Kev Jones is not
(03:34):
going to interfere in the match.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And one thing I'm going to say on this match How's
Gunther going to call Cody asecondary champion when he beat
Roman Reigns like one of thelongest reigning champion in the
modern era?
I mean even if Gunther wins,he's still the secondary
champion.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Because, in Gunther's eyes, he thinks that he's a
better champion than Cody, whichmakes Cody a secondary champion
.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He's a better wrestler, but that doesn't make
him a secondary champion.
He thinks he's a betterchampion than Cody, which makes
Cody a secondary champ.
He's a better wrestler, butthat doesn't make him a
secondary champion.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
He thinks he's a better wrestler, champion,
all-around person than Cody Roseis.
So if he thinks all that, ofcourse he's going to say that
Cody Rose is a secondary champto him.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean just the same way Roman Reigns.
He didn't say it, but whenRoman Reigns was the champ for
what?
Four years, whatever it was,everybody who had the Raw
Championship was the secondarychamp to Roman Reigns.
Yeah, I mean, but they mightnot admit it, but they were,
because Roman Reigns was thechamp.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And now Gunther is saying that he's the champ, like
Roman Reigns was.
That's what he's saying.
That's basically what he'ssaying champ, and so Cody is the
guy that's under him.
Now, that's what he's saying.
It makes sense for Gunther,since he thinks he's the best
wrestler in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
If you had that mindset, it probably would make
sense.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's what I'm telling you.
That's what I'm trying toexplain to you why he said that
to Cody, because that's what hethinks.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But for the second match on the card, it's Seth
Freakin' Rollins versus BronsonReed, and for this match I think
it's pretty simple.
I think Bronson Reed not reallyneeds, but he deserves the win
and I think he's going to comeout on top to come out on top.
(05:22):
And I don't think that SethRollins is going to come in 100%
because he got put through thetable on Monday Night Raw, so I
don't know if he's going to comein 100%.
So that's probably going togive the advantage to Bronson
Reed and I think Bronson Reed isgoing to win.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean, seth Rollins is always wrestling hurt
, though, so this is nothing newfor him.
He's always wrestling with somekind of injury.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, but has he ever wrestled Bronson Reed?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
No, that's what I'm saying.
But since Seth Rollins' injuryis going to hurt him, I don't
think that's going to be thereason he loses.
Like Bronson Reed went againstBraun Strowman, well, brunson
Reed went against Braun StrowmanCame back the next week, you
know, I mean Seth Rollins cursedup on the hood of a car, as
Michael Cole said, made a hood.
Not Michael Cole, who was it onRaw?
(06:16):
Wade Barrett, wade Barrett, hemade a hood ornament out of him.
That's what he did when hecursed up on the car.
And then he got right back upLike nothing fazed him.
Then he suplexed him into afireman's carry, basically into
(06:36):
the tables and got right up andSeth Rollins was still laying
there.
So in order for Seth Rollins tobeat Brunson Reed, he has to
beat him up, and I don't seeSeth Rollins being able to do
that in a regular match.
Now, if it was a different typeof match, then maybe Seth
(06:57):
Rollins, but just a regularthing I don't see Seth Rollins
doing enough in a regular match.
The only way I think SethRollins wins this match is if he
can wear Bronson Reed down.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Wears him down, kind of how Raven Sear did the big
show when they wrestled back inthe day and Raven Sear beat the
big show.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But that seems.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But I'm just saying that's the way you have to do it
, though you got a big monsterlike that, just like if you beat
Mark Henry, you gotta beat himdown, you gotta tire him out,
yeah you know, you gotta, yougotta tire him out, beat him
down.
You can't just go in there andjust think you're just gonna
beat him straight up it alsoSeth Rollins, but I pick Russell
Reed yeah, and it's SethRollins.
But I mean it happens.
So I mean, yeah, I like RussellReed.
(07:35):
I've been liking him for aminute, I mean so.
I mean even scene when he was,um, what was his name?
I can't think of what his namewas now, but yeah, he's an
independent wrestler.
Uh, jonah, yeah, he was Jonahon the independent wrestling.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
What type of name is?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Jonah, that was just his name on independent
wrestling.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Sounds like a high school kid's name.
Yeah, but I'm just saying butanyways.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, even when he was, then I was, I liked him.
So I mean I I liked him.
I want to see Bronson Reed geta little push.
Seth Rollins, yes, he needs towin this match, but he doesn't
need this match.
He's still Seth Rollins at theend of the day.
Bronson Reed is the one whoneeds this win because I think
he got let go from WWE, cameback.
(08:19):
He's been on the tear sincethen Braun Strowman and all that
Miz R-Truth I mean he's beendestroying people.
Seth Rollins, so I think heneeds this push to maybe get
himself into a title shot.
Against who is it?
Braun Breaker, maybe?
yeah or you know something likethat, maybe even against Gunther
(08:41):
in the future, or you know.
Or against Gunther, you know,whatever.
So Maybe even against Guntherin the future, or whoever wins
against Gunther, you know,whatever.
Yeah.
So, I got a bronze for you forthat one.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
For the next match.
It's Ryan Duran versus KevinOwens, and I feel like I've
already talked about this matcha little bit, but I feel like
Kevin Owens.
Well, one thing about thismatch Triple H is talking about
(09:12):
Kevin Owens like he's BrockLesnar or somebody you don't
remember Kevin Owens in Ring ofHonor, do you?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
when he was Kevin Steen, do you?
No, I didn't watch his stuff soif you remember that Kevin
Owens or the Kevin Owens orKevin Steen, he was in Ring of
Honor in independent, if youremember that Kevin Owens or the
Kevin Owens or Kevin Steen, hewas in Ring of Honor and
Independent Wrestling.
And then we remember KevinOwens when he first came to WWE
he beat down Sami Zayn.
He beat up John Cena.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I mean, if that Kevin Owens comes back, ring the
orders in for a long night.
Yeah, so yeah go ahead andfinish what you were saying,
buddy.
But I was just saying KevinSteen and Kevin Owens.
I mean, if he turns into thatperson, because he's been pretty
nice last year or so since he'sbeen with Sami Zayn and him
beating the bloodline and allthat, so they've been a little
(10:00):
bit better, I mean he's been alittle bit more of a you know.
But if the old school KevinOwens comes back, that Kevin
Owens doesn't care about anybody.
The way.
Triple H was talking about RandyOrton.
He doesn't care about anybody.
All he cares about is winningmatches.
It doesn't matter who's infront of him, whether it's best
friend for 20 plus years inSammy or somebody he doesn't
(10:21):
even know.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know like, think about what he did to Sami Zayn.
He actually likes Sami Zayn.
He doesn't like Randy Orton, sothink about what he'd do with
somebody he doesn't like.
But I have a question and RandyOrton had, and what's up.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Um, in the Kiffin Owens, like heel turn, do you
think Sami Zayn is going to havean interaction, but do you
think it's going to have anothermatch?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
No, you can keep them away from each other right now
because we know what happenswhen they get in the ring
together.
It's magic.
We know what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I mean they have never disappointed in any match
they've had over the years.
The last two decades they'vealways had banger matches.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
What about the COVID era?
Wait, you said.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean, since the last 20 years, since they've
been wrestling each other,they've always had good banger
matches.
I haven't seen a bad one.
I mean I've been watching KevinOwens for a while.
I haven't seen him and SamiZayn when he was El Generico in
Ring of Honor.
I've never seen him have a badmatch.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So I keep them away from each other.
You can do that at a later date, obviously.
I mean, we don't know what'sgoing to happen with Sami Zayn,
with the whole Solo and Jey andall that.
We'll get to that later, but wedon't know what's going to
happen with that match.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Is Sami Zayn going to join them or is he going to
stay away from them?
What's going to happen withthat?
But you know, did you pick forthat match already?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
No, but I mean I was going to pick.
Well, not going to, I'mprobably going to pick Kevin
Owens.
I thought you were going topick Randy Orton, no.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I really don't know on this one.
It's really hard.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, it is a hard decision Because I mean you got
Randy Orton, who's I meanbonafide, one of the greatest
ever, depending on who you ask Imean on as a heel.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
They're both like probably close up.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But is Randy Orton a heel?
Right now, though, no he's not.
That's what I'm saying he's notreally a heel right now.
He's kind of transitioningright now I mean he did put his
hands on Kevin Owens first yeah.
I mean, he did put his hands onKevin Owens first, so Kevin
Owens is getting him back payinghim back for it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No, technically Kevin Owens was like all up in his
business, but he didn't touch.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
He didn't touch Randy Orton.
Randy Orton was the one thatpushed him down.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, well it was a punch, but like he pushed,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But I'm saying Randy Orton, put his hands on Kevin
Owens first.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah.
So, so, but this one.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
See, when Kevin Owens did the elbow thing, he thought
that was a security guard.
He didn't know that was RandyOrton, so he had his back turned
to him the security guard.
Think about it.
Before that security guardswere grabbing him and he was
pushing him off right.
So somebody grabbed him frombehind and he just elbowed.
He didn't even turn around, sohe didn't know who that was,
until he turned around andrealized it.
And then that's when RandyWarden hit him and that's when
(13:14):
kind of took Kevin Owens offbecause he didn't mean to do it,
but he still did it though andso, yeah, I'm probably taking
Kevin Owens.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
you can also pick Kevin Owens, I know I want to
beat you this time.
Well, you may beat me this time, you can still beat me, maybe I
?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
mean if Cody wins.
But yeah, you said Kevin Owens,that's who you're picking.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, I'm doing the same thing.
I'm going to pick Kevin Owensas well.
Other than Kevin Owens, he'sturning back to the prize
fighter.
Kevin Owens the Kevin Owensthat the guy helped himself into
WWE originally.
I mean the Kevin Owens thatbeat up his best friend after he
won a championship the NXTchampionship in Sami Zayn and
then proceeded to beat him downthe next time.
They wrestled each other.
I mean it was basically abonafide squash match.
(14:02):
Then he came to the main rosterand then beat up John Cena
Probably the greatest of alltime and beat him down.
So I mean, if we can get thatKevin Owens back, people got to
watch out Because he does notcare about anything but belts
and money and that's it.
That's why he's called thePrizefighter.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
What about himself?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Belts and money.
That's himself included Becauseit's his going to him.
Belts is his.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Money is his.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's why he called it prize fighters.
That's what prize fighters arefor.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Prize fighters is an old Wait, so that's an actual
thing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh, I thought that was just Kevin Owens' thing.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
No, no, prize fighters is what they call
boxers like Ali and Tyson andthose kind of guys, mayweather.
We call them prize fighters.
They only fight certain times,but they fight for a lot of
money and they only fight forbills.
That's what a prize fighteractually is Like.
Raheem Ali was back in the day,george Foreman, tyson Holyfield
(14:59):
, lennox Lewis those guys Evennow.
Dante Ryder was at one point.
He's kind of losing a lot ofmatches now, but that's what
Jake Paul is right now.
He's doing the same.
He's not fighting forchampionships, but he's making a
lot of money right now Boxing.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know.
So that's what a prod fighteris.
They only fight for money orbills, that's it, nothing else.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But is that all you were going to say for that match
?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I just want to see the old Kevin Owens come
back, the Kevin Owens that gothim and Dough to be originally.
That's all I want to see.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
So for probably my favorite match on the card LA
Knight versus Andrade versusCarmelo Hayes, la Knight walking
in as the US champion.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
How are you going to say LA Knight's?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
name and not say it the right way.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Because I'm not going to.
Oh yeah, I can see you can't besaying his name, not said the
right way.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
All right, go ahead um, well, for this one.
Well, well, first of all I'mgonna say I really don't like
how they, how game seven ended,but because nobody really won,
because LA Knight's not in thering, because LA Knight's not
(16:11):
yeah since you weren't going todo what I do myself.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
All right, go ahead, I'll stop.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
The end of it.
But LA Knight yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
All right, arndell, that's the last one.
All right, okay, that's thelast one.
That's it, arndell.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The individual that has a name.
He wasn't in the match.
I mean he was a special guestreferee.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
He was in the match.
Referee in the match.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But have you ever seen Charles Robinson win a
match?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
He's not a wrestler.
He's not a US champion either.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
He's not a mega star either.
You know what I mean thoughCharles Robinson Lil Nate.
But you know what I mean, though.
I mean, but for this one I'mnot going to go who I think is
going to win.
I'm going to go who I want towin.
Okay, I know it's playing risky, but I just really want Carmelo
Hayes to win.
So I'm picking Carmelo Hayes,who I think is going to win LA
(17:03):
Knight, but I'm actually goingto pick Carmelo Hayes on this
one, because I just really wantto see Carmelo Hayes win this.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
This is a tough one.
La Knight has been a good champso far.
I don't want to see his timerun in so early.
But, like you were saying,Carmelo Hayes is a good wrestler
too.
But he still has time.
He's still young.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Andrade, he just came back.
He was in AEW for a while andthen he came back over here Well
, not a while, but over in AEWfor a minute.
Then he came over here back toWWE, I don't know.
I mean, it's a triple threatmatch too, so technically, la
Knight doesn't have to getpinned to lose the belt.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah so.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Carmelo Hayes could beat Andrade, or Andrade could
beat Carmelo Hayes and LA Knightloses his belt.
That's the only bad thing abouttriple threat matches, so I
don't.
You said Carmelo Hayes right.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm going to pick.
I'm going to go with Andrade,Just be different.
Okay, I'm going to go with.
Andrade beats Carmelo and thatgives him and LA Knight a chance
to feud over the belt, goinginto Survivor Series or Warrior
Rumble or whatever the casemight be.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So is that what you were going to say about that?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I mean this should be one of the better matches on
the card.
I mean, all three of them aregood wrestlers Carmelo Andrade,
LA Knight, they're all goodwrestlers, so this should be a
banger, as Sheamus says, I wouldsay this is probably the best
wrestling match on the card,Just pure wrestling match on the
(18:56):
card right here.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
For the fifth match on the card, it is Jade and
Bianca coming in as tag teamchampions versus Damage Control,
consisting of Io Sky and KairiSane versus Metaphor Last Legend
and Jakara versus Chelsea Greenand Piper Niven, who don't have
(19:21):
a tag team name.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You're not going to do a Chelsea name, nope, okay,
I'm not going to do it either.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I'm not going to tap.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Nope, not either.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And Chelsea Green and Piper Niven, who don't have a
tag team name, and so for thisone, I think it's pretty well
sliced.
Well, not really for what I'mgoing to say, not really, not
really but I'm going to takedamage control because I just
(19:51):
think that going into the RoyalRumble not going in really, but
getting closer to the RoyalRumble Jade and Bianca should
lose the titles and I think thisis the right stage for it.
And, yeah, I think Biancaca'sgonna take the pin actually and
(20:13):
that's gonna set off jay cargillleading into real rumble and
wrestlemania so who thinks gonnawin though?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
um damage control, damage control yeah okay, and
you think jay's gonna turnbianca?
Yeah, because bianca.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well I, I think bianca's gonna lose.
You don't think Jade's going toturn on Bianca?
Yeah, because Bianca.
Well, I think Bianca's going tolose.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You don't think Bella's going to turn on Jade?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, I think, since Jade's new, she needs the crowd.
Well, actually, that's notgoing to get into the crowd.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, it's going to get the people born there,
because Bianca's a crowdfavorite.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well see, that's how you get the crowd.
You brought up my point umbianca is a fan favorite, so I
just don't think.
I just she's already been here,so I just don't see she was a
heel.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I feel like, I feel like she's gonna be able to do.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
John cena, people who like have basically a heel,
like a heel run and they're justnever a heel again but her
character's a heel.
Talking about it before yeah solike her character is a heel I
mean, but you know yeah, butjust because her character is a
(21:22):
heel doesn't mean she's gonnaturn heel heel.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Like.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Cody Rhodes.
He's probably not going to turnheel in WWE if he does for a
while, if he even does in hisWWE career.
But yeah, for this one I'mpicking Damage Control and I
think Bianca Belair is going totake the pin.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Hmm, this is a hard one Because you got to think the
WWE Tag Team Champions.
Hmm, this is a hard one causecause you gotta think the WWE
tag team champions.
They consist of NXT as well,raw and Smackdown uh, huh so why
so?
why couldn't you?
Why not be Lash and Shakara?
(22:05):
They've been looking prettystrong last couple weeks.
I mean cause you gotta thinkabout Lash, can Shakara?
They've been looking prettystrong the last couple weeks.
I mean because you got to thinkabout Lash.
She can go head-set with any ofthe other women in the match as
far as strength-wise.
She's bigger than Jade andBianca.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
What about Piper and Nimmin?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Piper and Nimmin is bigger, but she's not taller.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean because Lash was a basketball player before
she was a wrestler.
So I mean she's played probasketball, thinking of the WNBA
, before she became the WNBAwrestler.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
But are you sure she's stronger than Bianca and
Jake?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Did you not see her pick up Harper and Evan?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Like the way she picked her up, though Picked her
up pretty easy, Called her andeverything.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Bianca Bellar can do that to.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Nia.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Jax.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
True, but I'm just saying Not like that, though Not
the way Lash called Piper.
Yeah, I mean she called her andcalled her good too.
But yeah, I'm going to go on awild card here.
I mean, I want to see Jade andBianca wrestle each other, so in
(23:03):
order to do that, one of themhas to turn on the other one.
I don't know if Bianca's gonnaturn on Jade or Jade turns on
Bianca, or whatever, whatnot,but I think Lash and Jakara
gonna win.
That way they can go to all thebrands Raw, smackdown, nxt, tna
, wherever you wanna go to theycan go, cause they got tag team
(23:24):
championships.
So for me, I got them winning.
That way they can defend thebelt and that gives Piper I mean
Chelsea and Piper, they deserveit.
Were they tag team championsbefore.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So everybody's been tag team champions, except for
Lash and Jakara.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So yeah, I'm going to go with Lash and Jakara because
they've been looking prettystrong last few weeks.
I mean, they, they beat DamageControl, I mean what I really
like about this match.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Sorry to cut you off, but what I really like about
this match they have a tag teamfrom every single brand I really
like that it's a.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's a Survivor Series match.
That's basically what it is.
It's an old school SurvivorSeries match.
We had all the champs wrestleeach other, but they only have
one WWE Women's Tag TeamChampionship.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah.
So, Mm-hmm, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I'm going to go with Lash and the card for that one.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I just realized.
The NXT, not NXT.
The Intercontinental Champion.
Well, the IntercontinentalChampion, well, the
Intercontinental Championshipisn't on the card that's.
Brian Breaker.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Brian Breaker, that's right yeah, but he just beat
Jimmy.
I mean he just beat Jay andJay's in the match so he doesn't
have anybody to wrestle rightnow.
There's no storyline matches hecan wrestle in right now.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So is that what you want to say about that tag team
match.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, I'm going to go with Lash and Jakara.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So, and for another match on the card is Liv Morgan
coming in as the Raw.
Another match on the card isLiv Morgan coming in as the Raw
Women's World Champion versusNia Jax coming in as the
SmackDown WWE Women's Champion.
And for this one, I thinkActually you know what I'm going
(25:27):
on my instinct for two things.
I think that Nightjax is goingto win, but not walk out as
champion.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Think Tiffany's going to cash in.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Because she'll be the crown jewel champion, but that
doesn't matter, because she'llbe the crown jewel champion, but
that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
but yeah, I think Tiffany Stratton's going to cash
in at this pay-per-view youthink Raquel's going to have
anything to do with it, orDominic or anything like that,
or just going to be her justbeating her straight up?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
well, I said Nia Jax is going to win oh, that's right
.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Nia Jax okay, you think he's gonna be a straight
up or you just think.
You think, um, that's insane.
Same question raquel anddominic gonna get involved or
they're gonna not get involveduh because it's judgment day.
I mean, doesn't they alwayswork together?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't see.
Well, only one of them can well.
Well, dominic and like and theother I don't see.
Well, only one of them can well, dominic and like and the other
crew.
The other members they can getinvolved, but they can't like
hand-to-hand combat.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, but you can distract her.
You can distract her and thenthat can leave.
You can distract the refereeand that leave Raquel doing what
she needs to do with thehijacks.
Yeah, I mean, you know it'shappened before.
So yeah, and it happened in areal ripping match, when they
distracted her and she ended uplosing.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, so, but for this.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Good thing about Liv Morgan.
Well, good thing not for Not agood thing about it, but a good
thing for Liv Morgan is shedon't got to worry about a real
ripley.
She's going gonna be out for along period of time.
I think she broke her eyesocket or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, wait, was that in that when they attacked her?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
yeah, when they attacked her NXT and so, like,
rhea Ripley got attacked, youknow, by Liv Morgan and Rhea
Ripley and attacked, you know,by Liv Morgan and Raquel
Rodriguez.
You saw that on NXT.
And evidently they must havedamaged her enough to put her
out of action for a few months.
They said she broke her eyes,she got an orbital break.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Which those.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You can't wrestle with those, because your eyes
can be swollen up.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, didn't it like an AEW wrestle with that.
Or a Daniel Bryan wrestle witha broken eye socket.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, he didn't have it broken.
It was fractured, which I don'tknow how bad hers is, but I
don't know, so we'll see how itgoes with that.
I mean, she should be backed byRory Rumble.
She should be backed by RoryRumble.
She's going to miss Crown Jeweland probably miss Survivor
Series, but it leads her tocoming back during the Royal
(28:12):
Rumble.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Possibly winning that and challenging Levin Morgan
for the belt at WrestleMania, orRaquel or whoever, yeah, so who
do you have winning?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I have Nia Jax, but I have Tiffany Stratton catching
in.
But I'm going to claim TiffanyStratton as a part of my
prediction.
Okay, I don't know, man, I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Nia Jax has been pretty strong, but Liv Morgan
has been strong too, so I'mgoing to go, especially with
these digital Rhea Ripley.
I'm going to go with Liv Morgan, with the assistance from
Raquel and Dominic.
It's going to beat Nia Jax and,like you said, I think Tiffany
Stratton is still going to cashin.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
On Nia Jax.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
On Nia Jax.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
after the match Okay, but it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Liv Morgan winning, not Nia Jax winning.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But one thing about Nia Jax she was trying to get
Tiffany Stratton to cash inGreat idea, but then she would
have to fight Tiffany Strattonwho.
Nia Jax.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Like, remember, like when she took out.
She don't care, she just don'twant.
She don't want Tiffany Strattonto cash in on her yeah, she
doesn't care about wrestlingTiffany Stratton?
She doesn't.
You know, she doesn't TiffanyStratton.
She's using her to stay closeto her, because if Tiffany
Stratton is always close to her,she can't cash in.
Yeah, because she's alwaysright next to her.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
But didn't Nia Jax and Tiffany Stratton become
friends before?
She won the championship.
I mean not championship moneyin the bank briefcase, were they
?
Yeah, I'm going to have to lookinto that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It might have been around the same time.
I can't remember if it wasbefore or after.
I can't remember for sure.
Yeah, I can't remember for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think they just ran into each other Like not ran
into, Was it during the?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Bailey feud when Nadia Dawson was fueling against
Bailey Was that it maybe Ican't remember.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, but Morgan winning that match and for the
main event at least what I thinkis going to be the main event
Roman rings and the Usos versusthe what people are calling the
(30:20):
Teemu bloodline, consisting ofSolo Sokoa, jacob Fatu and Tama
Tonga, and for this one, I'mpretty sure that Roman Reigns
and the Usos are going to win.
But I don't know how RomanReigns and Jey Uso are going to
(30:40):
play out Because, again, wehaven't watched SmackDown, so we
don't know if they're going tomake up during that or they're
just going to, not really, justcoexist together, yeah.
Like Cody Rose and Roman Reignsbasically yeah, exactly.
But a little bit closer,because they're technically
family.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Well, they are family .
No, it's technically our family.
Yeah, they are family.
Not technically they are family.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, like cousins, Like I was saying technically,
because cousins are like, like.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They're family, though, but it's still family.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Cousins are like brothers are closer than cousins
, Of course.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
We're the same parents, but cousins are just as
close too.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So how many people are in the War Games Smash?
Is it four or five?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
It's well, it varies, but this year I think it's
going to be four.
You don't think it'll be five.
Who Would the tall president ofthe Rock?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I don't know if the Rock's going to wrestle with the
tall guy.
I don't know what he's going tocall his name when he comes to
the B, but he's already beensigned to the B already.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And that's Tama Tonga and Tonga, lola's brother.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
How do you know that he's not going to join them?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I don't know that but what?
Better way to go against thebloodline than to bring in their
brother.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I'll do you one better.
If the Rock does wrestle, howdo you know he's not going to be
on Roman Reigns' side?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I mean look at the way he came out after the match
against Cody.
I mean think about the Rock'sstill mad at what Cody said.
Remember, even though the Rocktalked about Cody first, cody
said something about the Rock'sfamily.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
What did he say again ?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
About his granddad be disappointing him or whatever.
Oh yeah, and the Rock slappedhim.
The Rock's still mad at that.
So he doesn't like the factthat Roman Reigns was teaming up
with Cody Rhodes when CodyRhodes talked about their family
.
So I don't know if he's goingto be on Roman Reigns' side.
So think about this for aminute.
Who's to say that the Rockdidn't send Solo to become the
(32:41):
tribal chief?
Who's to say that the Rock isnot behind all this?
Because if Solo all of a suddencomes the idea to become a
proper Chiefs All on his own,nobody's behind the scenes
telling him what to do.
I don't see that.
I mean not me anyways.
I think the Rock may be behindthe scenes, kind of letting solo
(33:02):
because he was.
For one the Rock won tag teammatch.
The Rock won, right, he pinnedwho Wait, hold on, because for
one the Rock won tag team match.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
The Rock won, right, mm-hmm, he pinned who.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Wait.
Hold on In the tag team matchwith the Rock and Roman against
Cody and Seth Rollins.
And Seth Rollins who won thematch.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
The Rock.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Who did he pin?
Cody Rose, cody Rose.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Wasn't the champion, but I see my point he beat Cody
Rose.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, cody Rose beat Roman Re champion, but I see no
point.
He beat cody rose.
Yeah, cody rose beat romanreigns they're rocking.
They lost cody rose notrecently.
I don't remember losing to codyrose, not even back in the day,
I don't think, yeah, that Iknow of, but I'm just saying
recently, when he's been this,this uh final boss character, he
has not lost, he beat.
He beat cody rose who was downthe world.
The undisputed champion, romanreigns, didn didn't do it, he
(33:46):
lost his belt.
You see what I'm saying and so Ithink I don't know if this is
me throwing stuff out herepredictions.
I think the Rock has somethingto do with Solo and think about
Jacob.
Think about what Jay said toJacob.
I mean to Solo Nobody wantedJacob.
He stayed away from him for areason because he's dangerous.
So the Rock can't be the onlyone that talks to him.
(34:09):
The rock is the only one jacobfought to probably respects hold
on and then he brought thetongue is into I'll do you one
better.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
See I I am.
I didn't grow up like backwhere he was a manager to Armago
.
Oh yeah, but Armando, I'm sorry, I don't know who.
His other, estrada, yeah,estrada, I think it's something
(34:37):
like that.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
But I'll do you want.
I can't do the role in the R.
It's like they do it.
I can't do it I do.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
you want better?
How do you know he's not incharge of all that?
I don't think he's not incharge of all that?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I don't think he's in charge, but I think they may
bring him in.
He still is a manager right,he's still a manager, because
Paul Heyman's going to come backwith Roman Reigns, yeah, and
you bring him in to counteractPaul Heyman, but when you do
that, you know who's alsowrestling right now too, who?
Umaga-san, he's wrestling rightnow too, who Umaga's?
(35:10):
Son.
He's wrestling right now.
Oh yeah, so is his name, zillaFatu, I think his name is yeah,
yeah, yeah.
He's wrestling right now.
I don't know if he's ready forWWE yet, but Solo wasn't ready
either when he got called up forNXT.
So who's to say they won'tbring him in?
Uh-huh, Umaga's old managermanaging Umaga's son.
You mix him in with Jacob theTongans and Solo.
(35:32):
That's a dangerous bloodline.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh, you're talking about him on Solo's side.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I thought you were talking about him on Roman's
side, against that side.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, because he's basically dangerous too.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Exactly.
So then you bring him in.
So you got Roman, the Usos, Tomand Tom's brother.
And who else can you bring in?
Sammy, I mean, or do you try tofind another Samoan, I don't
know.
I mean it's going to be four orfive.
I don't know what it's going tobe for the Survivor Series.
It's going to be a war gamesmatch between them.
I don't even see this match.
(36:04):
I don't even think this matchis going to have an ending.
I mean it's going to be anending, but I don't think it's
going to be.
It's going to be controversialto where it's not going to be
finished.
This match?
Yeah, it's not going to beresolved.
Whatever happens, it's notgoing to be resolved.
Like somebody's going to comeout, interfere in the Didn't
(36:28):
Solo debut at the last CrownJewel.
Remember when he was wrestlingagainst somebody?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What match was that?
Was that Crown Jewel or ClassicCastle?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
That was Classic Castle True McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Exactly.
So what's to say that thiswon't happen again with Crown
Jewel, with somebody debutingdoing the same thing,
interfering in the match,causing the Roman Reigns their
bloodline, or vice versa?
Because of the solo end, I justdon't see this match ending in
a definitive clear winner.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I know it's not going to be clean, that's what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't see that happening because you still got
a War Games match.
You got to have a War Gamesmatch for.
Bloodline versus Bloodline.
You got to have that match.
I'm surprised they're havingthis match so early.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, like.
I feel, like the story of RomanReigns and Jey Uso.
I don't think like.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, it should have stretched out a little bit
longer.
I mean, I get you want to putit on the crown jewel.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Jey, uso and Jimmy.
That shouldn't have been soearly, exactly.
But yeah, like they're brothersso that's a pretty tight
connection.
Yeah, but yeah, like they'rebrothers, so that's a pretty
tight connection.
Yeah, but Roman and Jay, ifthey make up and like just like
that, it has to be like one ofthose things where it's a whole
across the night, like how Jimmydid, basically.
(37:42):
But you know, roman Ranks hadlike the una fall around his
neck and he was like was cryingcrocodile tears and then Lobo J,
that should happen, but it'snot crocodile tears.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So yeah, I don't know .
I'm just ready to see whathappens tomorrow, tomorrow
afternoon.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
So yeah, anything else buddy.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
No, I think that's it , but I'm just going to say this
this is a really stacked card.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It is.
I mean, most of All-I-Crownsare stacked cards, though for
the most part yeah, except whenGoldberg comes around.
I mean that was still a stackedcard.
I mean that's a dream match.
They were just about 10 yearstoo late on that match.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, a blade dream match.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I mean, it was a dream match.
It should have been kept.
A dream.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
It should have been a match.
It was 10 years too late.
They should have had that matchwhen Goldberg first came.
I mean yeah, but anyways, Iwon't get into that one.
But is that it, buddy?
That's all you got yeah.
All right, so this has beenanother episode.
I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
This has been Tag Team Talk.
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