August 2, 2025 • 27 mins
We break down the SummerSlam Night 2 card and share our predictions for an exciting night where every match features championship gold on the line.
• All championship matches on the card, creating high stakes for every competitor
• Dominik Mysterio vs AJ Styles for WWE Intercontinental Championship has had the best build despite minimal physical interaction
• Solo Sikoa vs Jacob Fatu in a steel cage match for US Championship could go either way with both showing character development
• Becky Lynch vs Lyra Valkyria in no-DQ, no-countout, with potential Bayley heel turn brewing
• Six-Pack TLC match for WWE tag team championships could be match of the night with Andrade and Rey Fénix as favorites
• Naomi predicted to retain Women's World Championship against Rhea Ripley and Iyo Sky
• John Cena vs Cody Rhodes street fight raises questions about the legitimacy of their contract signing
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Ben and Batch Podcast Tag Team Talk.
I'm Ben.
I'm Bad, just trying to lace upyour boots and hit the mat with
the Ben and Batch Podcast TagTeam Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, here we are for another one.
We are going to be doingSummerSlam Night 2.
Yep, so yeah, this should be aninteresting card here.
So yeah, let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Something I noticed before we get into the match.
Something I noticed about thiscard it's all championship
matches, yep, something I didn'tnotice before, before we
started every match is achampionship match, yep um, but
yeah, for the first match on thecard is dominic mysterio versus
aj styles for the wweIntercontinental Championship.
(00:46):
Can I just say something Mepersonally?
I don't know about you, but mepersonally I think Dominic
versus AJ Styles has the bestbuild going into SummerSlam.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and they didn't even do anything.
Yeah.
They didn't even do much, Imean as far as like physical.
So yeah, they didn't even domuch, except for when Dominic
attacked AJ the other day.
Yeah.
But they didn't even do much.
It was more the mind games thatAJ was playing on Dominic, for
him getting cleared and notbeing cleared, and doctors know
and they can't touch him untilhe gets cleared.
Yeah, and AJ was hiding indifferent spots around the arena
(01:20):
.
Yeah, played a custodian.
He was around the arena, yeah,play the uh custodian, he was a
rain doctor, I mean all kind ofstuff going on, so but yeah, uh,
yeah, I'm interested to seethis match too.
I mean, like I said, both froma good wrestlers.
I mean, granted, people don'tlike dominic for whatever reason
, but but for every reasonpeople don't like dominic, but
(01:42):
you can't deny it.
It's's like Logan Paul.
You know don't really care forthe guy personally, but in the
ring he's a good wrestler.
Yeah.
You know, am I going to cheerfor him?
No, will that ever cheer forhim?
No, but you can't deny he's nota good wrestler out there Like
Dominic Ciro.
He's a good wrestler too.
People don't like him, but youcan't deny what he does he get
(02:04):
inside the ropes, you know.
So who are you, uh, who yougoing for with that match?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
uh, I mean I I don't know why I just don't see hx, I
was winning you got everythingthat's been been going on I mean
I don't know, because, likedominic, my routine, and they
also have to think he's on rosecollide.
Dominic might retain, and theyalso have to think he's on Rose
Collide, not Rose Collide.
I'm not thinking Triple Mania,yeah, triple Mania, yeah.
And he might win there, so theymight drop the title.
(02:31):
But he might drop the title.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But then you also.
Then you have Just Day Girlslosing too, yeah, so you got
them and Dominic both losing.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I mean, I don't have it yet.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I might actually say Dominic, but no, no, I don't
know.
Yeah, I'm going to say Dominicto win.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
yeah, you think Dominic's going to win.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Actually, I don't know.
I'm going to say AJ, styles, aj.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Styles, yep.
Is that what you're thinking?
Mm-hmm, so you got Dominiclosing, judges of the Day, women
losing, and the only tag teamthat you got now the first and
Judges of the Day is Finn Balorand JD Yep.
As far as those go, mm-hmm.
Okay, I'm going to disagreewith you on this one and I'm
going to go.
Aj Styles, you mean Dominic?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Musi.
You mean Dominic Monsieur, orare you going to say Dominic
Monsieur?
Oh, yes, right, I said AJStyles, you're right.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was thinking you said, yeah, I'm going to go with
Dominic Dwayne.
That's right, I'm going to gowith Dominic Dwayne.
His heel character is one ofthe best out here so far.
I mean, since he's turned heel,he's been.
I mean he's still getting booedafter Reyna.
Yeah, he's been.
(03:50):
I mean he's still getting booedafter reina.
Yeah, and this is going on.
What?
Two years now since he turnedon the ray mysterio?
I mean it's probably longer,yeah like almost three years now
he's still getting booed likehe was the day he turned.
Yeah, you know.
So for him to still be gettingthe heat he's been getting as a
heel shows how good hischaracter is and how much fans
just do not like what he's beendoing.
That means he knows what he'sdoing.
Like I said, you want a reaction.
You want a cheer or boo,whatever, as long as you get a
(04:10):
reaction.
That's what he's been doing.
He's been getting booed,mercifully, you know.
But um, yeah, I'm going tostill go with Dominic to win
Because, yeah, win.
I don't think Finn or Jadis aregoing to get involved unless
they get ready to break theother day up.
They should get involved somekind of way in this match.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Unless they're going to get ready to break them up.
After all, three of them lose,then Finn will have a reason to
kick them out of the group.
I'm going to go with Dominic towin this.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But yeah.
So for the next match on thecard is Solo Zuccoa versus Jacob
Batu in a steel cage for the USChampionship, and for this one
I I don't see Jacob losingbecause, like MFT, has been
(05:06):
getting whooped by Jacob andJimmy.
Really.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I think about it.
Jimmy could just come out, youknow.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
But it's still two against four.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
No, yeah.
Four people against four, yeah,but like think about it, Like
they haven't been booked verywell.
Even Hickolay, he's been bookedthe best, but he hasn't been
booked.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Tala Tala.
Oh yeah, it's hard to get usedto a new name when you've been
seeing the old name for thelongest.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, that is his actual name, though it's spelled
differently, right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, I think so.
I think Tala is his name, but Ithink it's spelled different.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But even he has gotten booked like bad and he's
supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, he's been booked strong so far.
I mean he gets knocked out torain, but he's really been on
his back Like actually knockedout, like knocked on the ground.
Yeah, he's really on the groundhe's been.
I mean he got hit with thechair the other day.
They booking him strong, whichis, as a whole, they've been
getting whooped up on by Jacoband Jimmy.
But yeah, so you got.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
so you got winners uh , I have Jacob Jacob man see
this is a hard one, cause Ireally like Jacob man.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I've been watching him since he was at MLW and I've
been a fan of him since then.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But MFT is hard to beat, especially in a steel cage
man.
They can keep Jimmy out and whoknows what they can do inside
the cage.
I mean you know.
I mean Solo's characterdevelopment has been good too.
I mean he's actually showingmore personality as well.
Character development's beengood too.
(06:48):
I mean he's actually showingmore personality as well, since
he's been doing, you know, funnybits and serious bits.
You know he's been a littlebetter than he was when he was
the stoic kind of guy with Romanin the Bloodline 1.0 or
whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He didn't even really talk.
Really good, that's what I'msaying.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He was just kind of like a muscle.
He didn't really do much.
He didn't really do much,Didn't really say much serious.
Now he's kind of showing morepersonality, you know making
jokes and all this kind of stuff, but yeah.
I just don't see Jacob losing,but he could.
That's the problem.
Cause so already beat himalready.
(07:20):
Yeah, but in the cage matchchanged the story up a little
bit.
So yeah, I'm going to go Jacob2, man, I'm just going to go
Jacob 2.
Yeah, yeah it should be a goodmatch though I'm going to go
Jacob 2 though, winning thismatch.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Mm-hmm, that's what you was going to say, for that?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes, I got that from Big Wayne.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
All right For the next match on the card is Becky
Lynch versus Lara Vicaria in ano-DQ, no-countout, last-chance
match for the WWEIntercontinental Women's
Championship, and for this one Ifeel like it's like a
(08:04):
last-chance thing, so like it'sreally it's like a last chance
thing, so like this is still herlast chance against Becky if
Lyra loses, she cannot challengeagain as long as Becky has to
build.
So yeah, so I think that Lyrais going to win due to the
stipulations, but Becky I meannot Becky Bayley might also turn
(08:25):
.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think, I think, I think that's what's going to
happen too, mm-hmm.
But who does she turn on?
She wouldn't turn on Becky.
Why would she turn?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
on Becky.
That's not a turn.
If she turns on like turns onBecky, it's not really.
Lyra cost her two championshipmatches, or actually three.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah.
And then when she said on Rawshe watched me say on Raw about
missing SummerSlam andWrestleMania, and all that
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, felt bad for her when shewas talking like that.
Yeah, but, but yeah, so I thinkshe may, I think she may be
turning, I mean, I mean and alsoone thing lyra.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
The only thing gets talked about lyra.
When becky got replaced she washappy to see becky lynch.
After becky lynch replacedbailey now you worry about
bailey.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, more when you worry about bailey, exactly when
you worry about what bailey.
What happened to bailey?
Yeah didn't worry about, didn'tworry about.
And then you listen to whatthey were saying about what
happened afterwards.
Didn't even worry about, didn'teven think about the reason why
becky called her yeah likebecky called you out of the blue
and asked you to, can she beyour taxi partner out of the?
Bayley got hurt.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, he didn't know that was strange.
It was probably right after tooexactly like he didn't think
that was strange you know, uh,honestly think, saying that all
out loud, I'm gonna say beckylynch due to interferences from
baby it's gonna win, yeah, yeah,I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Uh, baby's gonna interfere, turn, turn back heel.
I mean she hadn't been healedsince she left.
Uh, damage control, yeah, andshe needs that heel character
again so she can kind of youshe's good as a baby face.
Don't get me wrong.
But, she needs to turn heel toget more fire under her, you
know.
She has a reason now to turn onLyra.
(10:11):
She has a reason to go backheel.
She hasn't been winning.
She got left off WrestleMania.
She got left off SummerSlam.
I'll be mad too if I got leftoff those two cards Two of the
biggest cards in wrestling,really.
I mean, that's two of thebiggest cards out there.
Yeah.
And I got left off of both ofthem and I'm probably one of the
(10:32):
four horsewomen, one of thebest women's wrestlers out there
, and I'm not wrestling in noneof the two big events.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yep.
So yeah, if I'm her, I'mdefinitely turning on Lyra.
Yeah, I'm her, I'm definitelyturning on Lara.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, I'm not saying I'm helping Becky out, but I'm
turning on Lara.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, it's different, you know, and then she would
get a title match and maybe winthat.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Exactly, or click or something, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, but yeah, that's what you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
This next one is going to take a lot out of me.
Tax, this next one is going totake a lot out of me.
Alright, it's a TLC match.
It's the Wyatt Siggs vs I'malready messing up it's the
Wyatt Siggs vs Andrade and RayPhoenix, and DIY vs Fraxian vs
(11:21):
Motor City, machine Guns vs theStreet Profits for the WWE Tag
Team Championships.
And for this one, it could goeither way.
Honestly, I think I see it goeither way, except for DIY and
Motor City.
Yeah, exactly.
So my mind just goes straight toa four-way, Not four-way in the
(11:43):
match, but a four-way in peoplewho could win A street profit.
Actually no, Because they justI'm going to say it's a
three-way for the people whocould actually win the Wyatt Six
, Andrade and Ray, Phoenix andFraxie and honestly don't
Andrade and Ray have a matchlike before this against the
(12:04):
Wyatt Six?
It?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
happened on Friday, but it was interference.
Oh, okay, yeah.
They had the tag team titlematch Ray, Phoenix and Andrade
but, then everybody got involvedand went crazy.
That's when?
Was it Pierce?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
No, yeah, it was.
Yeah, it was no.
No, it was no.
Not Wade Barrett.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Dan Nick Aldridge.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, Nick.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Aldridge.
Yeah, it was Nick Aldridge thatcame out and said he's tired of
that TLC, everybody getting init TLC.
What did he say?
He didn't get enough of it lasttime, so we're doing it again.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, because that last Tc match they had after
wrestlemania, that was betterthan wrestlemania matches think
about it if that was onwrestlemania, that would have
elevated it by time like times10.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That probably would have like been no doubt now
they're putting it on a cardwhich they should have had on
wrestlemania card anyways.
Uh, so now they're putting iton wrestle SummerSlam's card and
it's gonna be hard to live upto what he did after
WrestleMania yeah, that wasbefore WrestleMania no, that was
after WrestleMania was it notthe night before WrestleMania?
(13:14):
No, that was after it was afterWrestleMania, when the Street
Profits had that epic match.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, I thought that was it was after WrestleMania,
because they should have been on.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
WrestleMania card.
They put him on afterWrestleMania.
Oh, I'm pretty sure, becausethey should have been on
WrestleMania card.
They put them on afterWrestleMania.
That was the main event AfterWrestleMania, I want to say
Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Night Smackdown after WrestleMania.
Oh yeah, I had thought it wasthe night before.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
It was afterwards.
Mm-hmm you couldn't put that onthe night before WrestleMania.
No, you could have did that.
That was after.
That was the Friday.
After WrestleMania theywrestled in the tag team match
yeah yeah, tlc matches they'realways crazy.
(13:51):
This is the biggest TLC match Iremember because I remember you
had three.
You used to have three tag teamsnormally you know you had the
Dudleys, the Hardys, the AsianChristian, and then you might
have had Edge and Christianversus the Dudleys, then you
might have had Edge andChristian versus the Hardees,
the Hardees versus you know,vice versa.
But this is the biggest I'veseen with six teams.
So yeah, this is a huge.
(14:13):
I mean it's going to be a bunchof stuff going on in this match
Plus you got the other wide sixmembers out there.
Then you got Candice and Ray outthere Uh none of the other
people will uh be be be fabulousout there with Street Profits.
Mm-hmm.
Only we don't have anybodyright now is Motor City Machine
Guns and uh, Andrade and RayPhoenix.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Mm-hmm and the the oh and Fraxion.
And could get Zelina Vega.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They could, but she's going to get Julia right now.
Yeah.
Which I was probably not onthis card either.
But that's going to be onSmackDown.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, smackdown, I think they're just trying to
make the card even out too.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, it's going to be on SmackDown.
I think that's going to be onSmackDown.
Zelina Vega versus Julia isstory which may it makes sense,
though, kiana james was likeshe's like the mouthpiece, she's
a business woman.
Uh, she can be like themouthpiece for julia yeah you
know it makes sense.
But you know julia, her englishisn't the best right now.
She's learning it.
It's getting better.
(15:13):
Her english isn't the best andso you put something like kiana
james out there, you make her,give her more of a elevated
platform and she can be the onethat talks for julia of the time
.
I mean, julia still talks, butwhile she's learning English
better, you have a mouthpiecefor her, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But when it comes to winning this tag team match, I
mean I said it could go threeways, but realistically it could
probably go six ways.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, everybody has a chance to win this match.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, but when I think about this match, I mean,
did the Y at six retain?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I mean the odds are against them to retain.
Mm-hmm.
The odds are against them.
Just in the way the match workssix teams, a ladder match.
They don't even got to be on aladder to lose the match.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But you have to think about it.
So it's four male competitorsin the Y6, right?
Yep, and that's only like.
And there's five other teams,no, yeah, five other teams.
So that's ten people againstfive, or that's ten people
against five people If you countNikki Cross.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
But that probably doesn't count, but if you count
the other ones, you got KenzaRay and B-Fab, so you got twelve
.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah.
So it's twelve against five, orlike four, or whatever.
Yeah twelve against five, yeah,and like the Wyatt Six, like if
everybody like thinks withtheir head and attacks the Wyatt
Six, the Wyatt Six has nochance.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You get Rowan and Uncle Howdy out the way early,
and then two girls tag team onNick to get her out the way.
Then, boom, you can have a fairmatch yeah.
But the guy started early withthe match to get out and get
them out the way.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
They can really have a fair match.
But anyways, maybe Frex I thinkFrex him or Andrade and Ray
Phoenix are probably going towin.
Yeah, but yeah, you have youranswer yet.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, I got my answer already, yeah because I don't
have my answer yet.
Andrade and Ray Phoenix.
Yeah, that's what I was going tosay you talked about this on
the last show, about themputting tag teams together with
Alexa and Charlotte.
They put them two together andthen boom, they get tag team
gold.
Now look at the men's side.
They put ray andre.
They got together.
I mean, they're both mexicanwrestlers.
They're both all they everwrestle each other in mexico or
(17:31):
not, I can't remember but youput them two together and
they're both luchadores.
They both have a similar styleand boom, look what happens.
You know, I mean, now they're.
They had a tag team match.
They were close to winning, gotinterfered with.
Now that's the sixth wave.
Mm-hmm.
This match favors them more thananybody.
I mean them and the Fraxiumprobably are getting favored the
(17:53):
most in this.
Yeah.
Because they're the most crazyside of the bunch.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Mm-hmm, and they're the ones who haven't won the
title Exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, they're the ones who haven't won the title,
you got DIY.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Who was there?
The veterans.
Most of the shingles are theveterans.
I'm sure they've been in laddermatches before.
Both of them have StreetProfits.
We know what Montez does, weknow what Enzo does, and then
Wyatt Six, but the way it's beenlooking so far, momentum is
going toward Andrade and Rey.
(18:24):
So I'm going to go with Andradeand Rey Fenix, even though I
would rather Rey Fenix win hisfirst tag team gold with his
brother.
Penta this is a goodconsolation prize right here
with Andrade.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I was between two things.
I might have said Braxian maybe, but I decided to change my
mind and go with Ray Phoenix andAndrade Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, so yeah.
Andrade and.
Ray Phoenix, you going for too,yep.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, cool, and for the next match on the card, we
might agree on this one too.
I don't know.
It's Naomi versus Rhea Ripleyversus Io Sky for the Women's
World Championship.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I mean, I know who I want to win.
I don't know if you got thesame idea.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I know who I want to win and who I think is going to
win.
Who I want to win is Naomi, andwho I think is going to win is
Naomi.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Okay, so we're on the same boat.
Go ahead.
Go ahead and explain why youthink she did that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
She just won the title and she just cashed in and
she basically, like by cash-inrules, beat both of these
competitors already.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
True, but it wasn't a full match.
Yeah, you could say she came atthe end I think they had
already put on a banger.
As Seamus says of a one-on-onematch, mm-hmm it says of a
one-on-one match.
They're both tired out.
And then she came in and pickedup the scraps.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah and but yeah, I see Naomi winning this.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I got Naomi as well.
I mean, like I said, she wasgone for so long from WWE.
She won titles in TNA, you know, wrestled with Jordan, Grace
and all them.
She's been a consistentwrestler, I mean.
I mean she left there to be for, you know, for the tag team,
(20:14):
you know, with her and Sasha.
Her and Sasha both left forreasons you know, because they
wouldn't get booked right.
They just walked away, which Imean sometimes you got to do
stuff like that Take up for ateam and sacrifice yourself for
a good.
Now look at what the women'sdivision is doing as a tag team,
you know.
Look what they're doing now.
They're on a SummerSlam card.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
And also think about, like, what Naomi and Sasha
Banks are doing, Like, if theydidn't?
Or Mercedes Monet now, uh, ifthey didn't leave the company,
they would probably be in thesame position they were in when
they when they uh decided toleave.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Exactly, they didn't like.
They didn't like the way thetaxing on herself.
As they say.
Naomi's coming back now I meanI was her husband here and stuff
like that but Naomi has been.
When she turned heel, that newcharacter she has.
Her and probably Toni Stormhave the best two characters as
(21:10):
far as females go.
Maybe, overall actually.
But, especially females.
They're top two females inwrestling right now especially
character one, those twocharacters are they're perfect,
they fit, they fit themperfectly yeah you know they
both invite both sides perfectly.
You know, and Naomi's beentaking it, you know she's been
using it.
She used the whole j thing, she, she faked it for a while like
(21:33):
she didn't do it and she finallycame out and said it and she
did the whole thing, bianca youknow, the whole parents thing
came to the parents house whenthey wasn't there, you know kind
of the craziest stuff she'sbeen doing, you know, and now
she's in, now she has a titlematch, she's a world champion,
and jay's not, bianca's not.
She is you know.
So, with all that being said, Igot Naomi winning it.
(21:56):
Got her retained it for alittle while, but yeah, that's
what I got.
Got Naomi winning it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And for the main event, it's John Cena versus
Cody Rose in a street fight forthe undisputed WWE Championship,
and for this one, you want tosay something.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, hold on Real quick, though.
What Cody Rhodes did to JohnCena on SmackDown, that's
illegal.
That's not a legal buyingdocument.
I can't force you to signsomething when you're
unconscious.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Especially like putting their hand on the Like.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
John Cena was unconscious and I made him sign
a paper.
That contract is not signed.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, and he didn't even willing to write it.
He grabbed his hand and thenmade him write it.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's what I'm saying, and so that contract.
Any lawyer will tear it up.
I'm curious to see what JohnCena does on Smackdown about
that, if he's going to say, ifhe's going to try to use that
and say it's not a real match.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He might not be there .
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I know, but I'm just saying I wonder if he's going to
say anything about that,because that's not a legal
binding contract.
If you don't sign it under yourown free will, that contract is
not void.
It's not real, it doesn't countand obviously John Cena was
unconscious and Cody Rose brokehis name for him.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Because John.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Cena wasn't going to sign that contract.
He said I'm not signing it.
He said I'm not signing thatcontract.
He turned away.
He turned around and walkedaway and all of a sudden now
you're forcing him to signsomething he said he wasn't
going to sign originally.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, and also I feel like John Cena if his music
hits, he's just going to turnaround, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Exactly, and.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think that's what starts the fight.
He just might, just doesn'tcome out.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Or he comes out for a minute and then turns back
around.
Yeah.
But yeah, like I wonder what'sgoing to happen on SmackDown
because technically John Cenanever signed that contract and
so he has to actually sign it.
I don't know how the B-rulesare, but in the real world
that's not a real contract.
Yeah, he signed it.
Because he didn't sign it, if Itell you I don't want to sign
(24:12):
something and you knock me outand make me sign it.
I still didn't sign it.
Just because you wrote my nameon, it doesn't mean I signed it
Because my signature's on itdoesn't mean I wrote it Exactly,
especially if I was unconsciouswhen you wrote it and everybody
heard me say I wasn't going tosign it and I didn't want to do
it.
But I'm kind of curious to seewhat happens.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But I mean we know this match is going to be made.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It's going to be made , we know that, and John Cena's
going to win.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, so I would say I would have said Cody Rhodes
for so long, but then also holdon.
You think this is a streetfight because Cody Rhodes is
going to go film?
Street Fighter.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You don't think so I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh, I think he did that way, because how has John
Cena been winning all thesematches?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Cheating.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
By doing what.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Using his belt.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Now it's legal.
Yeah, so then he can't cheatnow, because no matter what you
want to do it, no matter whatyou want to do, it's not
cheating.
Now Cody Rose can use them too.
Now he can use weapons.
Yeah, because it's a streetfight, so you don't have an
advantage of losing from gettinglow blowed or getting hit with
a belt or whatever the case is.
Now it's equal.
Yeah, I can hit you just likeyou can hit me, and I don't get
to qualify for it.
(25:27):
So that's why I think they madeit.
I mean, if they have a StreetFighter, if it's sponsored by
Street Fighter yes, you're right.
Yeah.
But otherwise it's just becauseI think they want to do it
because John Cena's beencheating so much in his matches.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Mm-hmm, yeah, so, um, yeah, but yeah, I would say
John Cena too, just because CodyRedskins is going to go film
Street Fighter and also I feellike it's kind of soon for John
Cena to lose the title, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I don't see John Cena .
To be honest with you, JohnCena's not losing the belt.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
He's losing it on the last day, december 31st.
He's losing the title.
He's not losing the title.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
They have a main event in Boston.
He's not losing that either Ifthere's a show on December 31st
or December 31st no he has amain event going on in Boston.
Yeah For John Cena for his lastmatch in his hometown.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Close to his hometown .
Anyways, If there's a show onDecember 30th or 31st or that
week, he's losing on that week.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's what you say, but I don't see it.
Mm-hmm.
I don't see it.
He's going to retire at thebelt.
That's going to give.
I don't see it he's gonnaretire the bill.
That's gonna give him a reasonto create a new bill, or I've
been telling you this for a longtime yeah, but you're wrong.
We'll see in 5 months, 6 months, we'll see how it goes in
December when it comes backaround, but any doubts for this
(26:50):
match?
nope, that's it yep so, yeah,this should be a pretty eventful
weekend.
You got two PLEs.
You know you usually only getone, but this is SummerSlam.
It's the first two-nightSummerSlam in history In MetLife
, which is technically NewJersey, but they say New York,
(27:11):
new Jersey, because it's righton the border of New York, new
Jersey but it's technically inNew Jersey.
But yeah, I'm excited to seewhat happens on these two cars
and see how much we get wrong orget right or be surprised by.
There's going to be somesurprises that we don't know
about.
But, with that being said, I'mBen.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I'm Beth.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Good episode of Tag Team Talk.
Welcome to the Ben and Batch Podcast Tag Team Talk.
I'm Ben.
I'm Bad, just trying to lace upyour boots and hit the mat with
the Ben and Batch Podcast TagTeam Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, here we are for another one.
We are going to be doingSummerSlam Night 2.
Yep, so yeah, this should be aninteresting card here.
So yeah, let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Something I noticed before we get into the match.
Something I noticed about thiscard it's all championship
matches, yep, something I didn'tnotice before, before we
started every match is achampionship match, yep um, but
yeah, for the first match on thecard is dominic mysterio versus
aj styles for the wweIntercontinental Championship.
(00:46):
Can I just say something Mepersonally?
I don't know about you, but mepersonally I think Dominic
versus AJ Styles has the bestbuild going into SummerSlam.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and they didn't even do anything.
Yeah.
They didn't even do much, Imean as far as like physical.
So yeah, they didn't even domuch, except for when Dominic
attacked AJ the other day.
Yeah.
But they didn't even do much.
It was more the mind games thatAJ was playing on Dominic, for
him getting cleared and notbeing cleared, and doctors know
and they can't touch him untilhe gets cleared.
Yeah, and AJ was hiding indifferent spots around the arena
(01:20):
.
Yeah, played a custodian.
He was around the arena, yeah,play the uh custodian, he was a
rain doctor, I mean all kind ofstuff going on, so but yeah, uh,
yeah, I'm interested to seethis match too.
I mean, like I said, both froma good wrestlers.
I mean, granted, people don'tlike dominic for whatever reason
, but but for every reasonpeople don't like dominic, but
(01:42):
you can't deny it.
It's's like Logan Paul.
You know don't really care forthe guy personally, but in the
ring he's a good wrestler.
Yeah.
You know, am I going to cheerfor him?
No, will that ever cheer forhim?
No, but you can't deny he's nota good wrestler out there Like
Dominic Ciro.
He's a good wrestler too.
People don't like him, but youcan't deny what he does he get
(02:04):
inside the ropes, you know.
So who are you, uh, who yougoing for with that match?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
uh, I mean I I don't know why I just don't see hx, I
was winning you got everythingthat's been been going on I mean
I don't know, because, likedominic, my routine, and they
also have to think he's on rosecollide.
Dominic might retain, and theyalso have to think he's on Rose
Collide, not Rose Collide.
I'm not thinking Triple Mania,yeah, triple Mania, yeah.
And he might win there, so theymight drop the title.
(02:31):
But he might drop the title.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
But then you also.
Then you have Just Day Girlslosing too, yeah, so you got
them and Dominic both losing.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I mean, I don't have it yet.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I might actually say Dominic, but no, no, I don't
know.
Yeah, I'm going to say Dominicto win.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
yeah, you think Dominic's going to win.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Actually, I don't know.
I'm going to say AJ, styles, aj.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Styles, yep.
Is that what you're thinking?
Mm-hmm, so you got Dominiclosing, judges of the Day, women
losing, and the only tag teamthat you got now the first and
Judges of the Day is Finn Balorand JD Yep.
As far as those go, mm-hmm.
Okay, I'm going to disagreewith you on this one and I'm
going to go.
Aj Styles, you mean Dominic?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Musi.
You mean Dominic Monsieur, orare you going to say Dominic
Monsieur?
Oh, yes, right, I said AJStyles, you're right.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was thinking you said, yeah, I'm going to go with
Dominic Dwayne.
That's right, I'm going to gowith Dominic Dwayne.
His heel character is one ofthe best out here so far.
I mean, since he's turned heel,he's been.
I mean he's still getting booedafter Reyna.
Yeah, he's been.
(03:50):
I mean he's still getting booedafter reina.
Yeah, and this is going on.
What?
Two years now since he turnedon the ray mysterio?
I mean it's probably longer,yeah like almost three years now
he's still getting booed likehe was the day he turned.
Yeah, you know.
So for him to still be gettingthe heat he's been getting as a
heel shows how good hischaracter is and how much fans
just do not like what he's beendoing.
That means he knows what he'sdoing.
Like I said, you want a reaction.
You want a cheer or boo,whatever, as long as you get a
(04:10):
reaction.
That's what he's been doing.
He's been getting booed,mercifully, you know.
But um, yeah, I'm going tostill go with Dominic to win
Because, yeah, win.
I don't think Finn or Jadis aregoing to get involved unless
they get ready to break theother day up.
They should get involved somekind of way in this match.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Unless they're going to get ready to break them up.
After all, three of them lose,then Finn will have a reason to
kick them out of the group.
I'm going to go with Dominic towin this.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But yeah.
So for the next match on thecard is Solo Zuccoa versus Jacob
Batu in a steel cage for the USChampionship, and for this one
I I don't see Jacob losingbecause, like MFT, has been
(05:06):
getting whooped by Jacob andJimmy.
Really.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I think about it.
Jimmy could just come out, youknow.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
But it's still two against four.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
No, yeah.
Four people against four, yeah,but like think about it, Like
they haven't been booked verywell.
Even Hickolay, he's been bookedthe best, but he hasn't been
booked.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Tala Tala.
Oh yeah, it's hard to get usedto a new name when you've been
seeing the old name for thelongest.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, that is his actual name, though it's spelled
differently, right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, I think so.
I think Tala is his name, but Ithink it's spelled different.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But even he has gotten booked like bad and he's
supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, he's been booked strong so far.
I mean he gets knocked out torain, but he's really been on
his back Like actually knockedout, like knocked on the ground.
Yeah, he's really on the groundhe's been.
I mean he got hit with thechair the other day.
They booking him strong, whichis, as a whole, they've been
getting whooped up on by Jacoband Jimmy.
But yeah, so you got.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
so you got winners uh , I have Jacob Jacob man see
this is a hard one, cause Ireally like Jacob man.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
I've been watching him since he was at MLW and I've
been a fan of him since then.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But MFT is hard to beat, especially in a steel cage
man.
They can keep Jimmy out and whoknows what they can do inside
the cage.
I mean you know.
I mean Solo's characterdevelopment has been good too.
I mean he's actually showingmore personality as well.
Character development's beengood too.
(06:48):
I mean he's actually showingmore personality as well, since
he's been doing, you know, funnybits and serious bits.
You know he's been a littlebetter than he was when he was
the stoic kind of guy with Romanin the Bloodline 1.0 or
whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
He didn't even really talk.
Really good, that's what I'msaying.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He was just kind of like a muscle.
He didn't really do much.
He didn't really do much,Didn't really say much serious.
Now he's kind of showing morepersonality, you know making
jokes and all this kind of stuff, but yeah.
I just don't see Jacob losing,but he could.
That's the problem.
Cause so already beat himalready.
(07:20):
Yeah, but in the cage matchchanged the story up a little
bit.
So yeah, I'm going to go Jacob2, man, I'm just going to go
Jacob 2.
Yeah, yeah it should be a goodmatch though I'm going to go
Jacob 2 though, winning thismatch.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Mm-hmm, that's what you was going to say, for that?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes, I got that from Big Wayne.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
All right For the next match on the card is Becky
Lynch versus Lara Vicaria in ano-DQ, no-countout, last-chance
match for the WWEIntercontinental Women's
Championship, and for this one Ifeel like it's like a
(08:04):
last-chance thing, so like it'sreally it's like a last chance
thing, so like this is still herlast chance against Becky if
Lyra loses, she cannot challengeagain as long as Becky has to
build.
So yeah, so I think that Lyrais going to win due to the
stipulations, but Becky I meannot Becky Bayley might also turn
(08:25):
.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think, I think, I think that's what's going to
happen too, mm-hmm.
But who does she turn on?
She wouldn't turn on Becky.
Why would she turn?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
on Becky.
That's not a turn.
If she turns on like turns onBecky, it's not really.
Lyra cost her two championshipmatches, or actually three.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah.
And then when she said on Rawshe watched me say on Raw about
missing SummerSlam andWrestleMania, and all that
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, felt bad for her when shewas talking like that.
Yeah, but, but yeah, so I thinkshe may, I think she may be
turning, I mean, I mean and alsoone thing lyra.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
The only thing gets talked about lyra.
When becky got replaced she washappy to see becky lynch.
After becky lynch replacedbailey now you worry about
bailey.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, more when you worry about bailey, exactly when
you worry about what bailey.
What happened to bailey?
Yeah didn't worry about, didn'tworry about.
And then you listen to whatthey were saying about what
happened afterwards.
Didn't even worry about, didn'teven think about the reason why
becky called her yeah likebecky called you out of the blue
and asked you to, can she beyour taxi partner out of the?
Bayley got hurt.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, he didn't know that was strange.
It was probably right after tooexactly like he didn't think
that was strange you know, uh,honestly think, saying that all
out loud, I'm gonna say beckylynch due to interferences from
baby it's gonna win, yeah, yeah,I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Uh, baby's gonna interfere, turn, turn back heel.
I mean she hadn't been healedsince she left.
Uh, damage control, yeah, andshe needs that heel character
again so she can kind of youshe's good as a baby face.
Don't get me wrong.
But, she needs to turn heel toget more fire under her, you
know.
She has a reason now to turn onLyra.
(10:11):
She has a reason to go backheel.
She hasn't been winning.
She got left off WrestleMania.
She got left off SummerSlam.
I'll be mad too if I got leftoff those two cards Two of the
biggest cards in wrestling,really.
I mean, that's two of thebiggest cards out there.
Yeah.
And I got left off of both ofthem and I'm probably one of the
(10:32):
four horsewomen, one of thebest women's wrestlers out there
, and I'm not wrestling in noneof the two big events.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yep.
So yeah, if I'm her, I'mdefinitely turning on Lyra.
Yeah, I'm her, I'm definitelyturning on Lara.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, I'm not saying I'm helping Becky out, but I'm
turning on Lara.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, it's different, you know, and then she would
get a title match and maybe winthat.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Exactly, or click or something, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, but yeah, that's what you're going to say.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
This next one is going to take a lot out of me.
Tax, this next one is going totake a lot out of me.
Alright, it's a TLC match.
It's the Wyatt Siggs vs I'malready messing up it's the
Wyatt Siggs vs Andrade and RayPhoenix, and DIY vs Fraxian vs
(11:21):
Motor City, machine Guns vs theStreet Profits for the WWE Tag
Team Championships.
And for this one, it could goeither way.
Honestly, I think I see it goeither way, except for DIY and
Motor City.
Yeah, exactly.
So my mind just goes straight toa four-way, Not four-way in the
(11:43):
match, but a four-way in peoplewho could win A street profit.
Actually no, Because they justI'm going to say it's a
three-way for the people whocould actually win the Wyatt Six
, Andrade and Ray, Phoenix andFraxie and honestly don't
Andrade and Ray have a matchlike before this against the
(12:04):
Wyatt Six?
It?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
happened on Friday, but it was interference.
Oh, okay, yeah.
They had the tag team titlematch Ray, Phoenix and Andrade
but, then everybody got involvedand went crazy.
That's when?
Was it Pierce?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
No, yeah, it was.
Yeah, it was no.
No, it was no.
Not Wade Barrett.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Dan Nick Aldridge.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, Nick.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Aldridge.
Yeah, it was Nick Aldridge thatcame out and said he's tired of
that TLC, everybody getting init TLC.
What did he say?
He didn't get enough of it lasttime, so we're doing it again.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, because that last Tc match they had after
wrestlemania, that was betterthan wrestlemania matches think
about it if that was onwrestlemania, that would have
elevated it by time like times10.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That probably would have like been no doubt now
they're putting it on a cardwhich they should have had on
wrestlemania card anyways.
Uh, so now they're putting iton wrestle SummerSlam's card and
it's gonna be hard to live upto what he did after
WrestleMania yeah, that wasbefore WrestleMania no, that was
after WrestleMania was it notthe night before WrestleMania?
(13:14):
No, that was after it was afterWrestleMania, when the Street
Profits had that epic match.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, I thought that was it was after WrestleMania,
because they should have been on.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
WrestleMania card.
They put him on afterWrestleMania.
Oh, I'm pretty sure, becausethey should have been on
WrestleMania card.
They put them on afterWrestleMania.
That was the main event AfterWrestleMania, I want to say
Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Night Smackdown after WrestleMania.
Oh yeah, I had thought it wasthe night before.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
It was afterwards.
Mm-hmm you couldn't put that onthe night before WrestleMania.
No, you could have did that.
That was after.
That was the Friday.
After WrestleMania theywrestled in the tag team match
yeah yeah, tlc matches they'realways crazy.
(13:51):
This is the biggest TLC match Iremember because I remember you
had three.
You used to have three tag teamsnormally you know you had the
Dudleys, the Hardys, the AsianChristian, and then you might
have had Edge and Christianversus the Dudleys, then you
might have had Edge andChristian versus the Hardees,
the Hardees versus you know,vice versa.
But this is the biggest I'veseen with six teams.
So yeah, this is a huge.
(14:13):
I mean it's going to be a bunchof stuff going on in this match
Plus you got the other wide sixmembers out there.
Then you got Candice and Ray outthere Uh none of the other
people will uh be be be fabulousout there with Street Profits.
Mm-hmm.
Only we don't have anybodyright now is Motor City Machine
Guns and uh, Andrade and RayPhoenix.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Mm-hmm and the the oh and Fraxion.
And could get Zelina Vega.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They could, but she's going to get Julia right now.
Yeah.
Which I was probably not onthis card either.
But that's going to be onSmackDown.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, smackdown, I think they're just trying to
make the card even out too.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, it's going to be on SmackDown.
I think that's going to be onSmackDown.
Zelina Vega versus Julia isstory which may it makes sense,
though, kiana james was likeshe's like the mouthpiece, she's
a business woman.
Uh, she can be like themouthpiece for julia yeah you
know it makes sense.
But you know julia, her englishisn't the best right now.
She's learning it.
It's getting better.
(15:13):
Her english isn't the best andso you put something like kiana
james out there, you make her,give her more of a elevated
platform and she can be the onethat talks for julia of the time
.
I mean, julia still talks, butwhile she's learning English
better, you have a mouthpiecefor her, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But when it comes to winning this tag team match, I
mean I said it could go threeways, but realistically it could
probably go six ways.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, everybody has a chance to win this match.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, but when I think about this match, I mean,
did the Y at six retain?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I mean the odds are against them to retain.
Mm-hmm.
The odds are against them.
Just in the way the match workssix teams, a ladder match.
They don't even got to be on aladder to lose the match.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But you have to think about it.
So it's four male competitorsin the Y6, right?
Yep, and that's only like.
And there's five other teams,no, yeah, five other teams.
So that's ten people againstfive, or that's ten people
against five people If you countNikki Cross.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
But that probably doesn't count, but if you count
the other ones, you got KenzaRay and B-Fab, so you got twelve
.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah.
So it's twelve against five, orlike four, or whatever.
Yeah twelve against five, yeah,and like the Wyatt Six, like if
everybody like thinks withtheir head and attacks the Wyatt
Six, the Wyatt Six has nochance.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You get Rowan and Uncle Howdy out the way early,
and then two girls tag team onNick to get her out the way.
Then, boom, you can have a fairmatch yeah.
But the guy started early withthe match to get out and get
them out the way.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
They can really have a fair match.
But anyways, maybe Frex I thinkFrex him or Andrade and Ray
Phoenix are probably going towin.
Yeah, but yeah, you have youranswer yet.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, I got my answer already, yeah because I don't
have my answer yet.
Andrade and Ray Phoenix.
Yeah, that's what I was going tosay you talked about this on
the last show, about themputting tag teams together with
Alexa and Charlotte.
They put them two together andthen boom, they get tag team
gold.
Now look at the men's side.
They put ray andre.
They got together.
I mean, they're both mexicanwrestlers.
They're both all they everwrestle each other in mexico or
(17:31):
not, I can't remember but youput them two together and
they're both luchadores.
They both have a similar styleand boom, look what happens.
You know, I mean, now they're.
They had a tag team match.
They were close to winning, gotinterfered with.
Now that's the sixth wave.
Mm-hmm.
This match favors them more thananybody.
I mean them and the Fraxiumprobably are getting favored the
(17:53):
most in this.
Yeah.
Because they're the most crazyside of the bunch.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Mm-hmm, and they're the ones who haven't won the
title Exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, they're the ones who haven't won the title,
you got DIY.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Who was there?
The veterans.
Most of the shingles are theveterans.
I'm sure they've been in laddermatches before.
Both of them have StreetProfits.
We know what Montez does, weknow what Enzo does, and then
Wyatt Six, but the way it's beenlooking so far, momentum is
going toward Andrade and Rey.
(18:24):
So I'm going to go with Andradeand Rey Fenix, even though I
would rather Rey Fenix win hisfirst tag team gold with his
brother.
Penta this is a goodconsolation prize right here
with Andrade.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I was between two things.
I might have said Braxian maybe, but I decided to change my
mind and go with Ray Phoenix andAndrade Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, so yeah.
Andrade and.
Ray Phoenix, you going for too,yep.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, cool, and for the next match on the card, we
might agree on this one too.
I don't know.
It's Naomi versus Rhea Ripleyversus Io Sky for the Women's
World Championship.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I mean, I know who I want to win.
I don't know if you got thesame idea.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I know who I want to win and who I think is going to
win.
Who I want to win is Naomi, andwho I think is going to win is
Naomi.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Okay, so we're on the same boat.
Go ahead.
Go ahead and explain why youthink she did that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
She just won the title and she just cashed in and
she basically, like by cash-inrules, beat both of these
competitors already.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
True, but it wasn't a full match.
Yeah, you could say she came atthe end I think they had
already put on a banger.
As Seamus says of a one-on-onematch, mm-hmm it says of a
one-on-one match.
They're both tired out.
And then she came in and pickedup the scraps.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah and but yeah, I see Naomi winning this.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I got Naomi as well.
I mean, like I said, she wasgone for so long from WWE.
She won titles in TNA, you know, wrestled with Jordan, Grace
and all them.
She's been a consistentwrestler, I mean.
I mean she left there to be for, you know, for the tag team,
(20:14):
you know, with her and Sasha.
Her and Sasha both left forreasons you know, because they
wouldn't get booked right.
They just walked away, which Imean sometimes you got to do
stuff like that Take up for ateam and sacrifice yourself for
a good.
Now look at what the women'sdivision is doing as a tag team,
you know.
Look what they're doing now.
They're on a SummerSlam card.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
And also think about, like, what Naomi and Sasha
Banks are doing, Like, if theydidn't?
Or Mercedes Monet now, uh, ifthey didn't leave the company,
they would probably be in thesame position they were in when
they when they uh decided toleave.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Exactly, they didn't like.
They didn't like the way thetaxing on herself.
As they say.
Naomi's coming back now I meanI was her husband here and stuff
like that but Naomi has been.
When she turned heel, that newcharacter she has.
Her and probably Toni Stormhave the best two characters as
(21:10):
far as females go.
Maybe, overall actually.
But, especially females.
They're top two females inwrestling right now especially
character one, those twocharacters are they're perfect,
they fit, they fit themperfectly yeah you know they
both invite both sides perfectly.
You know, and Naomi's beentaking it, you know she's been
using it.
She used the whole j thing, she, she faked it for a while like
(21:33):
she didn't do it and she finallycame out and said it and she
did the whole thing, bianca youknow, the whole parents thing
came to the parents house whenthey wasn't there, you know kind
of the craziest stuff she'sbeen doing, you know, and now
she's in, now she has a titlematch, she's a world champion,
and jay's not, bianca's not.
She is you know.
So, with all that being said, Igot Naomi winning it.
(21:56):
Got her retained it for alittle while, but yeah, that's
what I got.
Got Naomi winning it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And for the main event, it's John Cena versus
Cody Rose in a street fight forthe undisputed WWE Championship,
and for this one, you want tosay something.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yes, hold on Real quick, though.
What Cody Rhodes did to JohnCena on SmackDown, that's
illegal.
That's not a legal buyingdocument.
I can't force you to signsomething when you're
unconscious.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Especially like putting their hand on the Like.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
John Cena was unconscious and I made him sign
a paper.
That contract is not signed.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, and he didn't even willing to write it.
He grabbed his hand and thenmade him write it.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's what I'm saying, and so that contract.
Any lawyer will tear it up.
I'm curious to see what JohnCena does on Smackdown about
that, if he's going to say, ifhe's going to try to use that
and say it's not a real match.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He might not be there .
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I know, but I'm just saying I wonder if he's going to
say anything about that,because that's not a legal
binding contract.
If you don't sign it under yourown free will, that contract is
not void.
It's not real, it doesn't countand obviously John Cena was
unconscious and Cody Rose brokehis name for him.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Because John.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Cena wasn't going to sign that contract.
He said I'm not signing it.
He said I'm not signing thatcontract.
He turned away.
He turned around and walkedaway and all of a sudden now
you're forcing him to signsomething he said he wasn't
going to sign originally.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, and also I feel like John Cena if his music
hits, he's just going to turnaround, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Exactly, and.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think that's what starts the fight.
He just might, just doesn'tcome out.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Or he comes out for a minute and then turns back
around.
Yeah.
But yeah, like I wonder what'sgoing to happen on SmackDown
because technically John Cenanever signed that contract and
so he has to actually sign it.
I don't know how the B-rulesare, but in the real world
that's not a real contract.
Yeah, he signed it.
Because he didn't sign it, if Itell you I don't want to sign
(24:12):
something and you knock me outand make me sign it.
I still didn't sign it.
Just because you wrote my nameon, it doesn't mean I signed it
Because my signature's on itdoesn't mean I wrote it Exactly,
especially if I was unconsciouswhen you wrote it and everybody
heard me say I wasn't going tosign it and I didn't want to do
it.
But I'm kind of curious to seewhat happens.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But I mean we know this match is going to be made.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It's going to be made , we know that, and John Cena's
going to win.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, so I would say I would have said Cody Rhodes
for so long, but then also holdon.
You think this is a streetfight because Cody Rhodes is
going to go film?
Street Fighter.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You don't think so I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh, I think he did that way, because how has John
Cena been winning all thesematches?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Cheating.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
By doing what.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Using his belt.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Now it's legal.
Yeah, so then he can't cheatnow, because no matter what you
want to do it, no matter whatyou want to do, it's not
cheating.
Now Cody Rose can use them too.
Now he can use weapons.
Yeah, because it's a streetfight, so you don't have an
advantage of losing from gettinglow blowed or getting hit with
a belt or whatever the case is.
Now it's equal.
Yeah, I can hit you just likeyou can hit me, and I don't get
to qualify for it.
(25:27):
So that's why I think they madeit.
I mean, if they have a StreetFighter, if it's sponsored by
Street Fighter yes, you're right.
Yeah.
But otherwise it's just becauseI think they want to do it
because John Cena's beencheating so much in his matches.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Mm-hmm, yeah, so, um, yeah, but yeah, I would say
John Cena too, just because CodyRedskins is going to go film
Street Fighter and also I feellike it's kind of soon for John
Cena to lose the title, Exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I don't see John Cena .
To be honest with you, JohnCena's not losing the belt.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
He's losing it on the last day, december 31st.
He's losing the title.
He's not losing the title.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
They have a main event in Boston.
He's not losing that either Ifthere's a show on December 31st
or December 31st no he has amain event going on in Boston.
Yeah For John Cena for his lastmatch in his hometown.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Close to his hometown .
Anyways, If there's a show onDecember 30th or 31st or that
week, he's losing on that week.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's what you say, but I don't see it.
Mm-hmm.
I don't see it.
He's going to retire at thebelt.
That's going to give.
I don't see it he's gonnaretire the bill.
That's gonna give him a reasonto create a new bill, or I've
been telling you this for a longtime yeah, but you're wrong.
We'll see in 5 months, 6 months, we'll see how it goes in
December when it comes backaround, but any doubts for this
(26:50):
match?
nope, that's it yep so, yeah,this should be a pretty eventful
weekend.
You got two PLEs.
You know you usually only getone, but this is SummerSlam.
It's the first two-nightSummerSlam in history In MetLife
, which is technically NewJersey, but they say New York,
(27:11):
new Jersey, because it's righton the border of New York, new
Jersey but it's technically inNew Jersey.
But yeah, I'm excited to seewhat happens on these two cars
and see how much we get wrong orget right or be surprised by.
There's going to be somesurprises that we don't know
about.
But, with that being said, I'mBen.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I'm Beth.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Good episode of Tag Team Talk.
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