August 23, 2025 • 18 mins
Ben and Bash previews NXT HeatWave, analyzing each match on the six-match card where women's wrestling takes center stage in four bouts.
• Chelsea Green and Ethan Page face Olympic medalist Tyra Mae Steele and Tavion Heights in a match that naturally evolved into Canada vs USA
• Triple threat number one contender's match between Jaida Parker, Kelani Jordan, and Lola Vice will determine who challenges for the NXT Women's Championship
• Jordynne Grace battles Blake Monroe in what promises to be a hard hitting match between a veteran and a rising star
• DarkState challenges Hank and Tank for the NXT Tag Team Championships with numbers advantage heavily favoring the challengers
• Jacy Jayne defends her TNA Knockouts World Championship against Masha Slamovich and Ash By Elegance in a triple threat match with potential interference
• Main event features Oba Femi defending the NXT Championship against Je’Von Evans, who appears poised to finally capture gold after previous attempts
Make sure to watch both NXT HeatWave and AEW' Forbidden Door on Sunday, with AEW starting earlier allowing fans to catch both shows without overlap
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Zone.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit them out with the Ben
and Bash Podcast.
Tag Team Zone.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, here we are for another one.
We're doing NXT Heat Wave, soit's a pretty big weekend.
You got NXT and AEW both comingon Sunday.
I think AEW comes on a littlebit earlier than NXT comes on at
night, I believe, so you shouldbe able to watch both without
what I've been appearing withthe other ones.
But yeah, let's get to NXT,let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Alright, for the first match on the card is
Chelsea Green and Ethan Pageversus Tyra May, steel and
Antavion Heights, and for thisone, I mean it could go either
way.
I feel like Chelsea Green andEthan probably aren't going to
win though, especially becauseTyra May still is new.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
She won LFC.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Something.
Gold medalist, two-timeOlympian.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And they didn't have to make this USA vs Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I mean Tavion Heights was the Olympian too.
So it makes sense that the onlyother Olympian and they didn't
have to make this USA vs CanadaI mean Tava Hopkin's an Olympian
too.
So it makes sense that the onlyother Olympian or not only
other?
But the other Olympian in NXTright now is his partner.
He wasn't an Olympian, hedidn't win a medal or anything.
If he goes to the Olympics, he'sstill one of the best.
If he goes to the Olympics, hestill went to the Olympics, and
she did too.
So it makes sense if their tagteam together, it just kind of
(01:32):
happened where it's two Canadapeople versus the United States
people.
It just happened to happen thatway.
I mean Chelsea.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Green from Canada, even the.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Pacers from Canada.
It worked, I know, but itworked though they could have
gotten anybody, but it workedthough they could have got
anybody, but it works withhealthy grain, because now you
can do it.
You know Olympians versusCanadians, you know two veterans
versus two up-and-comers.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I'm going to say, tyra May is stealing the
tape.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I feel you on that one.
Is that all you got for thatone?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I guess, so you agree with me, right.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, you guys reason why.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Because their baby faces.
And Tyra May Steel is new and Ijust don't see her taking a
loss here.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, I think she's only had one match on NXT TV.
I think she's had a few matchon NXT TV.
She's had a few matches, nottelevised TV shows.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And I think Ethan Page is probably not going to
get pinned.
I guess Chelsea Bain is goingto take the pin.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know unless Tava Heights is trying to go out
to the American Championship,then if he can't take the page,
there you go.
I don't see Tava.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Mays still and Tava.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Heights losing yeah, then if he can't take the page,
there you go.
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I don'tsee Tyra May still and Tayvon
Heights losing.
I mean, for one, tyra May stilljust won not just won, but she
won the last season of LFGMm-hmm Along with Jasper Troy.
Yeah, but yeah.
And she's an Olympian, she, shewants to be a wrestler, that's
(03:09):
what she always wanted to do.
She's a fan, she's a real fan.
I think, yeah, we'll see howthis goes.
I mean, it works for storylinepurposes.
It does better.
If Octavian pins Ethan Page,you can step there for you for
the North American Championship.
Tyra May still, she still hastime.
Like I said, this is only maybeher second, maybe third match
at the most on NXT TV.
I know this is her first PLEmatch, for sure.
(03:31):
But yeah, we'll see how shedoes on the big stage against a
veteran like Chelsea Green.
I mean, chelsea Green is a goodwrestler, she makes everybody
look good.
But yeah, we'll see how thisgoes.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Alright.
So for the second match on thecard is Jada Parker versus
Kehlani Jordan versus Lola Weissfor a number one contenders
match for the NXT Women'sChampionship.
So for this one, I mean hasLola Weiss and Kehlani Jordan
(04:08):
have.
They had an opportunity becauseI know Jada Parker has in a
couple faded for white.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't call it had a North American camera Seattle,
that big match they had withthat.
A well, that's what I thought,and I think yeah was that for
the NXT Women's Championship.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
The ladder match.
Yeah, oh, that was for theNorth.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
America.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, and she won that one.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Remember yeah, okay, yeah, I'm not sure.
I can't remember if Lola andKalani have had.
I know they both had NorthAmerica Championship matches.
I can't remember if Lola had aNXT Women's Championship match
or not.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I know Jada Parker.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh yeah, she had one on the live event.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But yeah, I'm probably going to say Probably
Jada Parker maybe, but likeMaybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You said Jada Parker maybe, mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean it's a toss upcause all three of them can go
in the ring.
You know it's a toss up causeall of them have been getting
all of them have been gettingsome good, good storylines in.
(05:22):
You know Lowe's been wrestlingin Mexico in AAA Triplemania.
You know, that's AAA's biggestcard.
Kalani's been doing pretty goodthings.
Jada, you know she's a crowdfavorite and the champion is JC.
Jane I mean Kalani and JC wouldprobably be the better match
(05:48):
probably of the three.
But, fan-wise would probably bethe better match, probably of
the three, but fan-wise maybeJada.
But it's a total between Jadaand.
Lola for me.
Let's see you pick Jada then.
So just to be different, I'mgoing to pick Lola, Just to be a
(06:11):
little different.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Why don't you think Kalani's winning?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It affects crowd interaction.
Jada and Lola gets bigger crowdreaction Just based off that
alone.
I mean, like I said, like Itold you before, Kalani and Jada
would probably be a bettermatch, like wrestling match, but
crowd-wise, the crowds cheermore for Jada and Lobo than they
do for Kalani.
At least right now we know it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, but that's where you would stay.
For that one, yeah, all right.
And for the next match on thecard is Jordan Graves versus
Blake Monroe, and for this one,I mean, it's been a pretty good
few so far, it's been excellentit makes sense yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Both of them came in with something to prove.
Jordan normally runs through adivision when she comes in and
wins the belt.
She didn't be able to do itthis time around, just because
it's different.
It's different here in NXT, andso she's frustrated by that
Thought.
She had a friend, an ally, inBlake Monroe.
(07:16):
Blake Monroe just came overfrom AEW and, like I told you
before, I said, she doesn't makea good babyface.
She's a way better heel.
And they didn't take no time.
She took no time in showingpeople that she's a way better
heel than she is a babyface.
But yeah, so, yeah, so yeah.
This should be a pretty goodmatch and we can see.
You know, this is two, two, twogood wrestlers.
(07:39):
Jordan's the the season bet.
I'm gonna call him romey blakemonroe.
She's been wrestling for alittle while now, not as long as
jordan grace, obviously, butshe's wrestling for a good bit
of time too, so both of them cango in the ring, you know.
So this should be a pretty goodmatch, but who'd you pick to
win?
I picked.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I picked Blake Monroe .
I didn't pick before you saidthat, but I picked are you
picking Blake Monroe?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
yeah, uh, who needs to win more?
Is the question.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Blake Monroe.
I mean she doesn, she doesn'tneed to win, but she's new to
NXT.
Yeah, but Jordan.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Grace has been losing every match.
Every big match she's been in,she's lost, yeah, so far, she
lost at Evolution.
She lost another time atanother pre-rider event, I mean
she's been losing everychampionship match she gets in,
or big-time match she gets get.
Then she usually loses thosematches.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well she I think she needs to win more than Blake
does.
Right this point on her plates,do she just deal?
You know, but yeah, I'm gonnago Jordan.
Gracious to be different youknow, Jordan grace.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, either one of them could win.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't know.
This is a toss-up.
You could put a coin on this.
It's really 50-50 on this onefor me.
I mean, I wouldn't mind eitherone of them winning, but I think
Jordan Grace needs a win more.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
So for the next match on the card is Hankank and take
versus dark state for the nxttag team championships we all
know what members the darkstate's gonna be into the match
technically, because it's fourmembers.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Uh, dark state's winning that dark state winner,
any reason why?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
because the nxt tag division is is gone.
Basically on the men's side, Imean, there is no women's tag
team division, but dirk state'slike the only actual team right
now that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I mean they're not gone, but a lot of things have
moved up to the main rosterrecently name an nxt team,
except these two not really.
I'm sure it's tough.
I just can't think off the topof my head right now there's
other ones.
There are also more.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Somewhere there must be more just too, oh, you got
the Chase University guys yeah,well, I'm talking about people
who actually get an opportunity.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean they might get the next one, but uh, I mean
we'll see how this goes.
Like I got Dark State winningtoo, Because why not, right?
I mean they've been featuredheavily on every show.
Plus, they've been in TNAbefore they attacked, you know,
the top four guys between TNAand NXT in a match.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, they absolutely beat them and they beat them,
they attacked.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, they absolutely beat them and they beat them.
They attacked them, then theybeat them.
So I mean they could beat Obaand Javon and Trick and Moose.
You would think that theyshould be able to beat Hank and
Tank in a tag team match.
Yeah, they still got thenumbers because, yeah, you may
not have all four guys in thering, but you got two guys
outside the ring.
Mm-hmm, you got two guysoutside the ring.
Mm-hmm, hank and Tank only gottwo people, yeah, but but yeah,
(10:55):
that's why I got.
I got Darkseid in that as well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, but for the next match onthe card, and probably in my I
don't know, probably gonna bethe second best match, I would
say Maybe I don't know, it's jcjane versus masha slimmer versus
azure by elegance for the nxtknockout championship.
(11:19):
What is it just for the nxt?
No, just for tonight I justthat's what I meant.
Oh, I didn't know they do that.
I thought they just had both.
Oh no, she's double champ, butyou can oh, masha slimmer is
gonna win, masha Slamovich isgoing to win.
Yup, yup, masha Slamovich.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's who you got winning Mm-hmm.
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Because I feel like if both titles were on the line,
she would lose, but it's theTNA championship Actually.
No, no, no, I'm saying JTJ.
I thought about it for a second.
I'm saying JTJ, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
JTJ can actually defend both belts.
I mean, like I said, she's aveteran wrestler as well and
she's not somebody who's like,she's been on TNA, she's been on
NXT, she's been on both of themwith the belts, so she's not
somebody who only shows up everynow and then with both belts.
So she could defend both belts,because she doesn't use
wrestlers the same night forboth belts, like that one.
She's only wrestled for TNAChampionship and that's the NXT
(12:19):
Championship.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's not like for the Stephanie McHara who wrestled
twice in the same night.
I know yeah.
Yeah, so it's not like her whereshe wrestled twice in the same
night.
You know, jtj has been able sofar to be able to stretch them
out to where one is wrestlinghere and then she defends the
belt another day on this one.
But this is a tough one BecauseMasha Stamovich we all know
(12:46):
what she can do in the ring.
Jaycee Jane we know what shecan do as, by elegance, it's the
wild card, Because I thinkshe's found her footing.
We know who.
That is right.
She's been in WWE, was it DanaBrooke?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
So, and I think in TNA she's found her lane as far
as they say.
It's a triple threat match too,and you gotta think Ash, by
elegance, has two other peopleand her concierge with them, so
she's got three people on theoutside.
The others don't have anybody.
(13:23):
Well, jc Jane has the twopeople in the.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, but much of it doesn't have anyone.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So the numbers wise has either JC or Ash winning.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Personally, if I was in this match, I would just team
up against Masha Slamovich,because, like there's two heels
and they have six people,there's not like one.
It doesn't matter who you are,unless you're like Superman.
You're not beating a six-on-onescenario.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Exactly, but it's tough like that though, but
Masha can win.
I mean, she can beat JordanGrace, she can beat a lot of
people.
Yeah, I'm going to go on a wildcard here and I'm going to pick
Ash by Elegance to win, becausetriple threat match, you know
the champ, don't have to getpinned to lose interference and
all that good stuff, know how toget pinned to lose interference
and all that good stuff.
So I'm going to go on a wildcard here and pick Ash by
elegance to win.
(14:17):
I think it might be her firstsingles championship since she
had the 24-7 championship, dang.
I mean, she's been tag teamchampions, but I don't think
she's had a singles championshipthis year championship right
now, that X division, right Ithink it's tag team.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I think it's knockout tag team, I believe.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, I thought it was like the.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I want to say it's a TNA tag team, a women's tag team
championship.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Probably Knockout, tag team championship Probably
is.
So I'm probably going to say ohyeah, yeah, I already said it,
you already said you alreadysaid Marshall right no, I said.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Jayce, oh, jayce, okay.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I changed my pick.
Okay, so you got Jayce.
Is that what you're going tosay for that one?
yep, that's it and for the mainevent, it's over for me versus
Javon.
So for this one I might have togo Javon, because he's had too
many opportunities just to loseagain and my pick is for him to
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be the next NXT championship NXTchampion.
So why not?
Why not?
Why not have him win it thisyear?
Because last year he was in thesame type of match but it was a
fatal four-way and he lost thatone.
Actually, he got pinned.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'm going to pick Javon Evans as well, but I'm
going to pick him because Ithink Ova's getting ready to
move up to the main roster.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And I think Asuka's the only one so far that's left
without getting beat on the mainroster, I mean on NXT.
Everybody else has either losttheir belt before they moved up.
She was undefeated.
Her first loss was againstCharlotte Flair at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And Ova Femi lost to Tony D'Angelo.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Exactly.
And he lost to Trick Williamstoo, didn't he?
And then he got the belt backfrom Trick Williams.
Did he lose the NXTchampionship to Trick Williams?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
No, the second time.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Trickling is on I know, but I'm saying but that
was against Ethan Page so whoall did Oba lose to then?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
He lost to Tony D'Angelo.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He might have got pinned, but one-on-one.
That's the only time I rememberhim getting beat, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
But yeah, remember, okay, he'll get in beat, okay,
but yeah.
So yeah, I guess I thinkobelisk getting ready to move to
the main roster not sure howthey're gonna move into the main
roster, I mean I'm sure they'regonna do it right because he's
a I mean you know he's a he'scoming to his own lane figuring
out how to do it.
They need a couple more bigguys on the main roster, since,
you know, bronze not thereanymore, but he's not, probably
(16:56):
not coming back right now.
The way it looks Omos, he mayor may not be there, I don't
know.
They need a couple more bigguys, like a monster on the main
roster.
now, I mean, you got the WildSix and guys like that.
So yeah, I'm going to pickJavon Evans.
I'm going to go G to win andbecome a new NXT champion.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Oh, you think so too.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, well, alright.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Anything else to add with this card?
Nope, so yeah, it's like apretty solid card.
There's actually more womenmatches on this card than men's
matches.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I was going to say, like for the first three
matches.
I was going to say like for thefirst three matches, I was
going to say that these are allmatches involving women so far,
but I forgot to say Becausethere's what four?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
is it four women matches on there?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, four or four matches involving women.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
This was a mixed tag match yeah, but I'm saying
that's a woman.
That's a woman in that match.
What five matches on the card?
Six Six matches Mm-hmm, was itfour or five?
Had women.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Four.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Four out of six.
That's pretty good odds.
Yeah, I mean, that's,two-thirds of the card has women
on it.
Mm-hmm, I mean, usually it'sthe opposite way.
Yeah, you know, less is everlimited, or something like that.
Normally it's more men matchesthan women matches.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, that's what almost all pay-per-views Even.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
AEW, exactly.
But yeah, it's a nice littleway for the women to have a nice
platform outside of Evolutionto showcase their stuff.
But yeah, I'm looking forwardto it.
So yeah, we'll see what happenswhen NXT Heat Wave comes on.
You guys got to add to it.
Nope, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm Ben, I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Bex, an episode of
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Zone.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit them out with the Ben
and Bash Podcast.
Tag Team Zone.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right, here we are for another one.
We're doing NXT Heat Wave, soit's a pretty big weekend.
You got NXT and AEW both comingon Sunday.
I think AEW comes on a littlebit earlier than NXT comes on at
night, I believe, so you shouldbe able to watch both without
what I've been appearing withthe other ones.
But yeah, let's get to NXT,let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Alright, for the first match on the card is
Chelsea Green and Ethan Pageversus Tyra May, steel and
Antavion Heights, and for thisone, I mean it could go either
way.
I feel like Chelsea Green andEthan probably aren't going to
win though, especially becauseTyra May still is new.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
She won LFC.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Something.
Gold medalist, two-timeOlympian.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And they didn't have to make this USA vs Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I mean Tavion Heights was the Olympian too.
So it makes sense that the onlyother Olympian and they didn't
have to make this USA vs CanadaI mean Tava Hopkin's an Olympian
too.
So it makes sense that the onlyother Olympian or not only
other?
But the other Olympian in NXTright now is his partner.
He wasn't an Olympian, hedidn't win a medal or anything.
If he goes to the Olympics, he'sstill one of the best.
If he goes to the Olympics, hestill went to the Olympics, and
she did too.
So it makes sense if their tagteam together, it just kind of
(01:32):
happened where it's two Canadapeople versus the United States
people.
It just happened to happen thatway.
I mean Chelsea.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Green from Canada, even the.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Pacers from Canada.
It worked, I know, but itworked though they could have
gotten anybody, but it workedthough they could have got
anybody, but it works withhealthy grain, because now you
can do it.
You know Olympians versusCanadians, you know two veterans
versus two up-and-comers.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I'm going to say, tyra May is stealing the
tape.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I feel you on that one.
Is that all you got for thatone?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I guess, so you agree with me, right.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, you guys reason why.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Because their baby faces.
And Tyra May Steel is new and Ijust don't see her taking a
loss here.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, I think she's only had one match on NXT TV.
I think she's had a few matchon NXT TV.
She's had a few matches, nottelevised TV shows.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And I think Ethan Page is probably not going to
get pinned.
I guess Chelsea Bain is goingto take the pin.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know unless Tava Heights is trying to go out
to the American Championship,then if he can't take the page,
there you go.
I don't see Tava.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Mays still and Tava.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Heights losing yeah, then if he can't take the page,
there you go.
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I don'tsee Tyra May still and Tayvon
Heights losing.
I mean, for one, tyra May stilljust won not just won, but she
won the last season of LFGMm-hmm Along with Jasper Troy.
Yeah, but yeah.
And she's an Olympian, she, shewants to be a wrestler, that's
(03:09):
what she always wanted to do.
She's a fan, she's a real fan.
I think, yeah, we'll see howthis goes.
I mean, it works for storylinepurposes.
It does better.
If Octavian pins Ethan Page,you can step there for you for
the North American Championship.
Tyra May still, she still hastime.
Like I said, this is only maybeher second, maybe third match
at the most on NXT TV.
I know this is her first PLEmatch, for sure.
(03:31):
But yeah, we'll see how shedoes on the big stage against a
veteran like Chelsea Green.
I mean, chelsea Green is a goodwrestler, she makes everybody
look good.
But yeah, we'll see how thisgoes.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Alright.
So for the second match on thecard is Jada Parker versus
Kehlani Jordan versus Lola Weissfor a number one contenders
match for the NXT Women'sChampionship.
So for this one, I mean hasLola Weiss and Kehlani Jordan
(04:08):
have.
They had an opportunity becauseI know Jada Parker has in a
couple faded for white.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't call it had a North American camera Seattle,
that big match they had withthat.
A well, that's what I thought,and I think yeah was that for
the NXT Women's Championship.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
The ladder match.
Yeah, oh, that was for theNorth.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
America.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, and she won that one.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Remember yeah, okay, yeah, I'm not sure.
I can't remember if Lola andKalani have had.
I know they both had NorthAmerica Championship matches.
I can't remember if Lola had aNXT Women's Championship match
or not.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I know Jada Parker.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh yeah, she had one on the live event.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But yeah, I'm probably going to say Probably
Jada Parker maybe, but likeMaybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You said Jada Parker maybe, mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean it's a toss upcause all three of them can go
in the ring.
You know it's a toss up causeall of them have been getting
all of them have been gettingsome good, good storylines in.
(05:22):
You know Lowe's been wrestlingin Mexico in AAA Triplemania.
You know, that's AAA's biggestcard.
Kalani's been doing pretty goodthings.
Jada, you know she's a crowdfavorite and the champion is JC.
Jane I mean Kalani and JC wouldprobably be the better match
(05:48):
probably of the three.
But, fan-wise would probably bethe better match, probably of
the three, but fan-wise maybeJada.
But it's a total between Jadaand.
Lola for me.
Let's see you pick Jada then.
So just to be different, I'mgoing to pick Lola, Just to be a
(06:11):
little different.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Why don't you think Kalani's winning?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It affects crowd interaction.
Jada and Lola gets bigger crowdreaction Just based off that
alone.
I mean, like I said, like Itold you before, Kalani and Jada
would probably be a bettermatch, like wrestling match, but
crowd-wise, the crowds cheermore for Jada and Lobo than they
do for Kalani.
At least right now we know it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, but that's where you would stay.
For that one, yeah, all right.
And for the next match on thecard is Jordan Graves versus
Blake Monroe, and for this one,I mean, it's been a pretty good
few so far, it's been excellentit makes sense yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Both of them came in with something to prove.
Jordan normally runs through adivision when she comes in and
wins the belt.
She didn't be able to do itthis time around, just because
it's different.
It's different here in NXT, andso she's frustrated by that
Thought.
She had a friend, an ally, inBlake Monroe.
(07:16):
Blake Monroe just came overfrom AEW and, like I told you
before, I said, she doesn't makea good babyface.
She's a way better heel.
And they didn't take no time.
She took no time in showingpeople that she's a way better
heel than she is a babyface.
But yeah, so, yeah, so yeah.
This should be a pretty goodmatch and we can see.
You know, this is two, two, twogood wrestlers.
(07:39):
Jordan's the the season bet.
I'm gonna call him romey blakemonroe.
She's been wrestling for alittle while now, not as long as
jordan grace, obviously, butshe's wrestling for a good bit
of time too, so both of them cango in the ring, you know.
So this should be a pretty goodmatch, but who'd you pick to
win?
I picked.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I picked Blake Monroe .
I didn't pick before you saidthat, but I picked are you
picking Blake Monroe?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
yeah, uh, who needs to win more?
Is the question.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Blake Monroe.
I mean she doesn, she doesn'tneed to win, but she's new to
NXT.
Yeah, but Jordan.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Grace has been losing every match.
Every big match she's been in,she's lost, yeah, so far, she
lost at Evolution.
She lost another time atanother pre-rider event, I mean
she's been losing everychampionship match she gets in,
or big-time match she gets get.
Then she usually loses thosematches.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well she I think she needs to win more than Blake
does.
Right this point on her plates,do she just deal?
You know, but yeah, I'm gonnago Jordan.
Gracious to be different youknow, Jordan grace.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, either one of them could win.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't know.
This is a toss-up.
You could put a coin on this.
It's really 50-50 on this onefor me.
I mean, I wouldn't mind eitherone of them winning, but I think
Jordan Grace needs a win more.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
So for the next match on the card is Hankank and take
versus dark state for the nxttag team championships we all
know what members the darkstate's gonna be into the match
technically, because it's fourmembers.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Uh, dark state's winning that dark state winner,
any reason why?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
because the nxt tag division is is gone.
Basically on the men's side, Imean, there is no women's tag
team division, but dirk state'slike the only actual team right
now that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I mean they're not gone, but a lot of things have
moved up to the main rosterrecently name an nxt team,
except these two not really.
I'm sure it's tough.
I just can't think off the topof my head right now there's
other ones.
There are also more.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Somewhere there must be more just too, oh, you got
the Chase University guys yeah,well, I'm talking about people
who actually get an opportunity.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean they might get the next one, but uh, I mean
we'll see how this goes.
Like I got Dark State winningtoo, Because why not, right?
I mean they've been featuredheavily on every show.
Plus, they've been in TNAbefore they attacked, you know,
the top four guys between TNAand NXT in a match.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, they absolutely beat them and they beat them,
they attacked.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, they absolutely beat them and they beat them.
They attacked them, then theybeat them.
So I mean they could beat Obaand Javon and Trick and Moose.
You would think that theyshould be able to beat Hank and
Tank in a tag team match.
Yeah, they still got thenumbers because, yeah, you may
not have all four guys in thering, but you got two guys
outside the ring.
Mm-hmm, you got two guysoutside the ring.
Mm-hmm, hank and Tank only gottwo people, yeah, but but yeah,
(10:55):
that's why I got.
I got Darkseid in that as well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, but for the next match onthe card, and probably in my I
don't know, probably gonna bethe second best match, I would
say Maybe I don't know, it's jcjane versus masha slimmer versus
azure by elegance for the nxtknockout championship.
(11:19):
What is it just for the nxt?
No, just for tonight I justthat's what I meant.
Oh, I didn't know they do that.
I thought they just had both.
Oh no, she's double champ, butyou can oh, masha slimmer is
gonna win, masha Slamovich isgoing to win.
Yup, yup, masha Slamovich.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's who you got winning Mm-hmm.
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Because I feel like if both titles were on the line,
she would lose, but it's theTNA championship Actually.
No, no, no, I'm saying JTJ.
I thought about it for a second.
I'm saying JTJ, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
JTJ can actually defend both belts.
I mean, like I said, she's aveteran wrestler as well and
she's not somebody who's like,she's been on TNA, she's been on
NXT, she's been on both of themwith the belts, so she's not
somebody who only shows up everynow and then with both belts.
So she could defend both belts,because she doesn't use
wrestlers the same night forboth belts, like that one.
She's only wrestled for TNAChampionship and that's the NXT
(12:19):
Championship.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's not like for the Stephanie McHara who wrestled
twice in the same night.
I know yeah.
Yeah, so it's not like her whereshe wrestled twice in the same
night.
You know, jtj has been able sofar to be able to stretch them
out to where one is wrestlinghere and then she defends the
belt another day on this one.
But this is a tough one BecauseMasha Stamovich we all know
(12:46):
what she can do in the ring.
Jaycee Jane we know what shecan do as, by elegance, it's the
wild card, Because I thinkshe's found her footing.
We know who.
That is right.
She's been in WWE, was it DanaBrooke?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
So, and I think in TNA she's found her lane as far
as they say.
It's a triple threat match too,and you gotta think Ash, by
elegance, has two other peopleand her concierge with them, so
she's got three people on theoutside.
The others don't have anybody.
(13:23):
Well, jc Jane has the twopeople in the.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, but much of it doesn't have anyone.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So the numbers wise has either JC or Ash winning.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Personally, if I was in this match, I would just team
up against Masha Slamovich,because, like there's two heels
and they have six people,there's not like one.
It doesn't matter who you are,unless you're like Superman.
You're not beating a six-on-onescenario.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Exactly, but it's tough like that though, but
Masha can win.
I mean, she can beat JordanGrace, she can beat a lot of
people.
Yeah, I'm going to go on a wildcard here and I'm going to pick
Ash by Elegance to win, becausetriple threat match, you know
the champ, don't have to getpinned to lose interference and
all that good stuff, know how toget pinned to lose interference
and all that good stuff.
So I'm going to go on a wildcard here and pick Ash by
elegance to win.
(14:17):
I think it might be her firstsingles championship since she
had the 24-7 championship, dang.
I mean, she's been tag teamchampions, but I don't think
she's had a singles championshipthis year championship right
now, that X division, right Ithink it's tag team.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I think it's knockout tag team, I believe.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, I thought it was like the.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I want to say it's a TNA tag team, a women's tag team
championship.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Probably Knockout, tag team championship Probably
is.
So I'm probably going to say ohyeah, yeah, I already said it,
you already said you alreadysaid Marshall right no, I said.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Jayce, oh, jayce, okay.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I changed my pick.
Okay, so you got Jayce.
Is that what you're going tosay for that one?
yep, that's it and for the mainevent, it's over for me versus
Javon.
So for this one I might have togo Javon, because he's had too
many opportunities just to loseagain and my pick is for him to
(15:16):
be the next NXT championship NXTchampion.
So why not?
Why not?
Why not have him win it thisyear?
Because last year he was in thesame type of match but it was a
fatal four-way and he lost thatone.
Actually, he got pinned.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I'm going to pick Javon Evans as well, but I'm
going to pick him because Ithink Ova's getting ready to
move up to the main roster.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And I think Asuka's the only one so far that's left
without getting beat on the mainroster, I mean on NXT.
Everybody else has either losttheir belt before they moved up.
She was undefeated.
Her first loss was againstCharlotte Flair at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And Ova Femi lost to Tony D'Angelo.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Exactly.
And he lost to Trick Williamstoo, didn't he?
And then he got the belt backfrom Trick Williams.
Did he lose the NXTchampionship to Trick Williams?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
No, the second time.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Trickling is on I know, but I'm saying but that
was against Ethan Page so whoall did Oba lose to then?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
He lost to Tony D'Angelo.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He might have got pinned, but one-on-one.
That's the only time I rememberhim getting beat, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
But yeah, remember, okay, he'll get in beat, okay,
but yeah.
So yeah, I guess I thinkobelisk getting ready to move to
the main roster not sure howthey're gonna move into the main
roster, I mean I'm sure they'regonna do it right because he's
a I mean you know he's a he'scoming to his own lane figuring
out how to do it.
They need a couple more bigguys on the main roster, since,
you know, bronze not thereanymore, but he's not, probably
(16:56):
not coming back right now.
The way it looks Omos, he mayor may not be there, I don't
know.
They need a couple more bigguys, like a monster on the main
roster.
now, I mean, you got the WildSix and guys like that.
So yeah, I'm going to pickJavon Evans.
I'm going to go G to win andbecome a new NXT champion.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Oh, you think so too.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, well, alright.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Anything else to add with this card?
Nope, so yeah, it's like apretty solid card.
There's actually more womenmatches on this card than men's
matches.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I was going to say, like for the first three
matches.
I was going to say like for thefirst three matches, I was
going to say that these are allmatches involving women so far,
but I forgot to say Becausethere's what four?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
is it four women matches on there?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, four or four matches involving women.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
This was a mixed tag match yeah, but I'm saying
that's a woman.
That's a woman in that match.
What five matches on the card?
Six Six matches Mm-hmm, was itfour or five?
Had women.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Four.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Four out of six.
That's pretty good odds.
Yeah, I mean, that's,two-thirds of the card has women
on it.
Mm-hmm, I mean, usually it'sthe opposite way.
Yeah, you know, less is everlimited, or something like that.
Normally it's more men matchesthan women matches.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, that's what almost all pay-per-views Even.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
AEW, exactly.
But yeah, it's a nice littleway for the women to have a nice
platform outside of Evolutionto showcase their stuff.
But yeah, I'm looking forwardto it.
So yeah, we'll see what happenswhen NXT Heat Wave comes on.
You guys got to add to it.
Nope, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm Ben, I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
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