April 4, 2025 • 44 mins
Ben and Bash break down the entire AEW Dynasty match card, offering predictions for each bout while analyzing potential storyline developments and championship changes.
• Julia Hart vs Mercedes Moné in the Owen Hart Cup Tournament first round could see interference from Athena to help Julia secure a win
• Will Ospreay expected to defeat Kevin Knight in what should be a clean, competitive Owen Hart Cup Tournament match
• Chris Jericho defending ROH World Championship against Bandido in a high-stakes title vs mask match
• No time limit, no outside interference stipulation for TNT Championship match between Daniel Garcia and Adam Cole
• The Hurt Syndicate challenging The Learning Tree with potential MJF involvement affecting the outcome
• Triple threat International Championship match between Kenny Omega, Ricochet, and Mike Bailey could steal the show
• Death Riders defending trios titles against Rated FTR with possible betrayal storyline developing
• “Timeless” Toni Storm praised as wrestler of the year while defending against powerhouse Megan Bayne
• Jon Moxley vs Swerve Strickland main event likely to involve Death Riders interference
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
welcome to the Ben and Bash podcast tag team talk.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash podcast tag team talkall right for another one.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We are going to be doing our prediction for AEW
dynasty.
Uh, you know how we do it justrun down a match card.
So far, um, and uh, just giveour prediction what we think
gonna happen storylineprogressions, uh, maybe future
stuff, uh, so let's get to it uh, the first match in the card is
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julia hart versus mercedesmonet in the first round Owen
Hart Cup Tournament.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm not sure about this one.
I feel like I don't know.
My gut instinct is to sayMercedes, but I don't know.
I might probably have to sayMercedes, though, because
originally Mercedes was my pickto win the whole Owen Hart Cup
(01:10):
tournament, but I'm not sure.
So I'm going to say MercedesMonet beats Julia Hart.
You know what you think, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Nah, I think.
I mean, if it was a regularmatch, yes, but if you watched
AEW, was it last week, you know,athena came out.
And her and Mercedes had somewords and a little bit of action
happened.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, but they're going to sell that on Collision.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
A little squabble.
There's no Collision this weekbecause of the pay-per-view.
Or is it Collision this week?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I think there is.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Okay, there might be Collision this week.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I think it's on Saturday Because it's on.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Sunday Okay, it's on Sunday, that's right.
Okay, that's right, it's onSunday, so it's on Sunday.
It is Collision.
So, yeah, collision Saturday.
So, whatever happens onCollision, was it All In?
Yeah, all In in Texas that'swhere I think it's from Mm-hmm.
So they're going to wrestle, soI think it's going to come out
(02:08):
in a fair match to get theirfeud built up some more.
But, yeah, you know, I think itcame out.
They had a little squabble, youknow, I think it came out on
top for a minute.
But yeah, I mean, mercedesdoesn't need this win.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
She just needs it, mm-hmm.
Okay, can we talk aboutsomething for a second?
Okay, there's like Roman Reigns, two titles, but like she has
four entire sets of belts.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, she's a belt collector.
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
She's like Thanos, trying to collect all the
affinity stones, Exactly yeah.
What's wrong with that?
She shouldn't have every titlein, like every single company
ever exist?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
then beat her, then beat her.
If they don't want her out ofthe belt, then beat her, simple
as that.
Then find somebody to beat herin other companies.
I mean, if they don't want herto have it, then find somebody
that can beat her.
I mean simple as that.
Yeah, you know.
So I mean Julia Hartney.
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I mean she's just coming backfrom a injury.
I can't remember what kind ofinjury it was, but she's coming
back from an injury, maybe aknee injury or something like
that.
I can't remember, but she'sjust come back from an injury.
So, yeah, she needs this more.
You know, get some moremomentum built up.
I've taken a little hiatus lastyear.
Mercedes, she doesn't need it.
She's all these belts she has afew coming with her at all in.
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I mean, yeah, it'd be good towin the own Hart Cup because
it's a great tournament for agreat call.
He's a great wrestler.
But you know, julia Hart needsa little more than Mercedes does
.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Mm-hmm.
You know, so you're pickingJulia Hart.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, with some interference from Athena or
Philly Starks.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Winning them two.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Okay For the second match on the card.
It's Will Ospreay versus KevinKnight, and Kevin Knight
replaced Jade White and.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
This is also the first round.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, wait, it is.
Yeah, it's also the first roundof the.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Heart Cup match.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
This is the only Owen Hart Cup thing besides the
women's match.
Right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
As far as I know anyways, unless they have some
other ones.
But yeah, as far as I know,it's the only other one on there
.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And it's Will Ospreay and Kevin Knight, and I got a
glimpse of Kevin Knight just inthe past AWs, just like in the
past AWs.
But I think Will Ospreay isgonna win the entire cup
tournament, and in order to winthe cup tournament, you have to
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win first round.
So I'm predicting Will Ospreaybeats Kevin Knight.
I think it's gonna be a cleanmatch too, cause I think they
have respect for each other.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Kevin Knight he's been to be a clean match too,
because I think they haverespect for each other.
Yeah, same Kevin Knight.
He's been around for a while.
I mean, he was in New Japan ProWrestling.
He was in, I think, the SuperJuniors this year.
Yeah, Super Juniors.
He was in TNA for a littlewhile and he made his way over
to AEW last month, I think itwas.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think it was last month I saw him for the first
time at AEW.
So I mean he's been around fora little while and you know he's
finally getting his shine on inAEW.
I mean this is going to be agood match.
I mean, you know, and WillOspreay always puts good matches
on anyways.
So but yeah, like I said, willOspreay he's, unless the wild
card is somebody.
So what?
(05:47):
There's a wild card in themen's.
I can't remember if there's awild card in the women's
tournament or not.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I don't think there is.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
There's a wild card in the men's match.
Who that is, I'm not sure, butas far as it goes right now it
looks like Will Ospreay isprobably the frontrunner for
that.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Just because he's will osprey.
And you know, I mean dependingon who the wild card if it's
like this big name, but they'rewrestling on adam page though
hangman.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So yeah, we'll see, we'll see, I don't know.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayinglike that's some tough
competition yeah, oh, hard cupusually is tough competition
wait um are will osprey andhangman page on different sides
of the bracket.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'll have to look at it to see.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Because, if they are, I feel like they're going to be
in the finals, depending on whothe wild card is.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I'll have to look at it and see if they're on
the same bracket or not.
But yeah, I got Will Ospreaygoing for the win on that one as
well.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, and for the third match on the card is Chris
Jericho versus Bandito in atitle versus mask match, and the
title on the line is theWorld's Honor.
Wait, how do you say that Iforgot Ring of Honor World
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Championship?
See that I forgot ring of honorworld championship.
Um, and uh, for this one, Imean, chris jericho has been a
dominant champion.
Um, I mean, I don't know, Idon't see bandito.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I wouldn't really call him dominant, but he's been
a champion.
I'm don't want to call itdominant, though, but you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, but I don't see Bandito losing his mask.
You know His brother did, yeahhis brother did, but like I just
don't see him losing his mask,but I don't see Chris Jericho
losing the title either.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And people didn't think Chris Jericho was going to
lose his mask either.
And he did, and he did, and hedid too.
So I mean it's happened before.
I mean Santos lost his in AAA,I think it was yeah.
So I mean people I can'tremember if Andrade lost his or
he just took his off when hecame to the B, I can't remember,
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but I mean it's been.
You know, luchador has losttheir match before you know, but
yeah, I don't know ifBen-Dude's actually going to
lose his or not.
I don't see him losing hiseither, but I wouldn't be
surprised if he did though.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But yeah go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't know, though, because the Learning Tree has a
match, so they're probably notgoing to get involved.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, I don't think they will, but it could, though
it depends on where this matcheson the card.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It could be here or it could be there on the card
Learning Tree.
Could be first, I don't know.
However, you know the card issubject to change.
It could be.
Who knows how the card matchesare going to be actually.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I think Hold on.
I need to think about this fora second.
I think Bandito is going to win.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You think Bandito is going to win?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's the only logical way because, unless I
mean he loses his mask I haven'tseen Luchador lose his mask in
a while.
I mean, that's rare forLuchador to lose his mask Like
legitimately, like withoutsomebody taking it off.
You know, like I said, withGravity it happened what Chris
Jericho did and then like whatChris Jericho did, and then what
Xavier Woods did to Dragon Lee.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, and Grande America.
You can't forget about him.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
What they did, take the mask off, like that Stuff,
like that happens.
But to lose a title versus maskmatch and you just gotta take
your mask off so that everybodycan.
You can't hide your face aspart of the match.
You gotta take your actual maskoff so people can see your face
.
So I don't see, unless Banditois, unless he's ready to do that
.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know like, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And it would make sense for him to have the title
too.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Exactly, you know, I mean Chris Jericho's had to.
He's had to build long enoughalready yeah so yeah, it would
make sense for Bandito to win,you know.
So yeah, I got Bandito.
And you know, and yeah, chrisJericho could get to build
somebody.
I don't like Chris Jericho,that ring on her build anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I mean, he's rarely on Ring of Honor TV.
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He wrestles all the time on Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I didn't know that he had the world title.
I thought he had the mid-cardtitle for the longest.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No, he has a ring on him too.
He has a world championship.
Yeah, like I said, ben Nealactually wrestles on Ring of
Honor sometimes.
I've not seen Chris Yurik onRing of Honor.
That I know of anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I think I've seen him on a couple pay-per-views, but
that's it.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm saying the TV shows.
I rarely see him on those.
Yeah, he's never on.
Yeah, but yeah for anothermatch on the card it's Daniel
Garcia versus.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Adam Cole for the AWTNA Championship.
Tnt, tnt, that's what I meant?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Did I say TNA?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, it's Thursday, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And there's no time limit or um no outside
interference which is big cause.
Yeah, both guys have uh teamsand groups that that can help
them out yeah, you know, thetime limit part is really big
cause most cause most titlematches like this, but they
wrestled before to a time limitdraw.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, so that's why they got no time limit because
they both wrestled to a timelimit draw before.
So no time limit means therehas to be, it has to be a winner
.
You can't, you can't saythere's a 30 minute rule and
then 30 minutes go up and thewinner retains his belt, so
there has to be a winner, unlessthere's disqualification which
now I mean it's adam cole.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But like I don't know because I don't know, because I
just I don't know on this oneit's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's a hard one.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
There's two good wrestlers um, since it's so
close to all land, unlessthey're pulling WWE um, I don't
see Adam Cole winning thechampionship this close to all
winning.
So I'm going to just say DanielGarcia, because he's been a
(12:24):
dominant champion.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, but I'm going to get Adam Cole to win because
he's had a rough go around andbroke his ankle.
I mean he came back, got hurtagain.
I mean he can't catch a breakright now.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So he needs his more than Daniel Garcia does, for
sure, oh yeah, definitely.
I mean absolutely.
So I think Adam Cole is goingto pull this out.
It's going to be a hard foughtbattle, for sure.
Oh yeah, this could easily beone of the matches of the night,
if not the match of the nightright here.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean you got two good wrestlers.
I mean so yeah, this couldeasily be match of the night
right here, for sure, definitely.
But yeah, I got Adam Colewinning this one in a real close
match, but adam cole's gonnapull it out, I think, uh, yeah,
I think ab coles gonna pull thisone out, just you know yeah,
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and for another match on thecard, it's the hurt set sent
signiquin.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I can never pronounce that word syndicate, syndicate,
uh, versus the Learning Treewhich is Big Bill and Brian
Keith for the AEW World Tag TeamChampionships, and for this one
, for some reason, I didn't knowwho's going to win.
But then a thought popped in mymind earlier.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Don't know you better not say it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
What.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I think that MJF is going to interfere in the match
and give the Hurt Syndicate thewin.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, I thought you were going to go somewhere else
with that.
Okay, okay, is it?
Yeah?
Okay, yeah, I mean BobbyLashley, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Sheldon Benjamin Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
MVP, mvp, I mean they have Big Bill though.
I mean Bobby Lashley.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, sheldon Benjamin, mm-hmm.
Mvp.
I mean, they have Big Billthough.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
They got Bobby Lashley.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I mean, brian Keefe is a good wrestler too.
He's one of the betterwrestlers too, yeah, but Sheldon
Benjamin is too, uh-huh.
Bobby Lashley is too.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
MVP, not Slav.
I think they have the betterteam.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Exactly by far.
Well, yeah definitely by far toher, seneca does.
And then you got MVP, and then,like I said, who knows what MJF
is going to be up to?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Because he said prove himself.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But then they're also trying to prove themselves, so
it kind of evens out.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But could MJF cost him by accident?
Trying to prove himself.
Yeah, I mean mean, I hope hedoesn't.
But what happens if he comesout there and try to prove
himself and cost them the bill?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
okay and then that leads to something else yeah,
you know like hope he doesn't,but like if he does come out
like cost in the match I don'tknow why, but I kind of want the
learning tree to win, but Idon't think they're going to be
unbearable?
I don't think they're gonna win, but I feel like I I want them
to win, but I don't thinkthey're going.
That'd be unbearable.
I don't think they're going towin, but I feel like I want them
to win.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, absolutely not.
No, that's going to beunbearable.
On Dynamite and Collision, theyalready talked too much, as is
you imagine that with the tagteam builds too.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Absolutely not.
No, they already talked toomuch With Chris Jericho too.
No, no, no, they already talkedtoo much with Chris Jericho too
.
No, no, man.
And they probably used the freeword rule too yeah, where,
chris.
Jericho could be.
He could be one of thechampions too, like New Day did
and like other uh trios, uhgroups have done yeah so, yeah,
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hurston and Kidd, I think, isgonna win it.
You know, I I really hope MJFdoesn't cost him this match
because I really don't want tosee the hurt of their entry.
So I'm going to go with theHurston and Kidd just because of
that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh, that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, hurston and Kidd yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Okay, for the next match on the card is Kenny Omega
versus Ricochet versusSpeedball Mike Bailey for the
AEW International Championship.
Now Ricochet and Mike Baileyboth pinned the same person.
(16:33):
I forgot his name.
It was someone from the DonCallis family.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, he used to be with Hal Fletcher.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, he still is.
Yeah, he's with him now.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I can't think of his name now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Mark something, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
But they both pin the same person and there's a
triple threat match now, soanything can happen.
But I mean, it's Kenny Omega,it's.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Ricochet, man, ricochet.
This is probably Ricochet'sbest run, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But it's Kenny Omega, though I think Kenny Omega is
better than Ricochet.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He is, but this is Ricochet's best work in a while,
man.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
He's doing.
People don't like Ricochet, butthis is Ricochet man.
He's doing his best work rightnow.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I mean he's embracing the crowd hating him and he's
been executing it perfectly.
He knows the crowd doesn't likehim for whatever reason and
he's been literally feeding offof it and doing it better.
He's just been feeding off ofit.
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Sometimes you need that changeof scenery.
Sometimes it's better to dothat.
He left WWE, came to AEW andhe's doing better now.
So some people thought when heleft WWE he wasn't going to be
doing this, and for a while hewas like he was going to be in
the same situation in AEW.
But then fans started booinghim and he used that as a way to
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get to where he's at now, andnow he's in the Magic Kenny
Omega and Mike Bailey.
You're talking about Kenny Omega, one of the best wrestlers in
the world, mike Bailey's prettygood himself, not going to
slouch either.
It's a triple threat match.
I mean, this is another matchthat could be up there for match
of the night as well, by far.
I mean, who'd you pick to winthis one?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Oh, I haven't picked yet.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Go ahead and finish yours up.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Let's see.
I just don't see Kenny Omegalosing the championship.
This, not this close to all-in,but this.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
This close to all-in.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
No, not this close to all-in, just like I don't see
Kenny Omega having this short ofa reign.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
But he don't have to lose that strip threat match.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, all those apply , but like.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
That's a problem too, though he don't have to lose it
.
He don't have to get pinned tolose his belt.
That's the danger of a triplethreat match.
Like Mike Bailey can get pinnedby Ricochet and Ricochet wins.
Yeah, can get pinned by.
Ricochet, ricochet wins, orvice versa Mike Bailey can pin
Ricochet and Mike Bailey winsand Kenny Omega loses his belt.
And didn't even win any decision, instead of a one-on-one where
(19:24):
you've got to beat the champ,which is a little bit harder to
beat Kenny Omega in a one-on-onematch, you put another person
in there, now Kenny Omega don'tgot to win or fatal four-way or
elimination match, you know, orladder matches or whatever that
match kind of be.
You know now you got a betterchance of beating them because
then you got more obstacles andmore.
You know, more things in thematch that can affect the match.
(19:47):
Instead of a regular one-on-one.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I think Mike Bailey takes the pin right.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
He just came to AEW too.
I don't know, that's theproblem.
Who takes the pin?
Because Kenny Omega is up there.
Ricochet is having a heck of arun.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
If Kenny Omega loses, I don't think he takes the pin.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Or he could, and that could set the feud with whoever
pins him for All In.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I mean whoever pins him.
That could set the few betweenthem one-on-one at all in.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Like I want to see Ricochet and Kena Megas in a
one-on-one match.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I mean, I think most people want to see Ricochet and
Will Ospreay, but that's notgoing to happen right now.
They're saving that one.
No, they've done that before.
Yeah, but they're saving thematch.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Like the big match.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, they're saving that one for a while Because
they're there.
They're both in the samecompany, so they can hold that
one for a minute and they don'thave to put them together right
now, when they were in differentcompanies.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
It was just seen as another dream match.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Exactly when they had wrestling show.
They were younger.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And since they were both in different companies,
they're not going to wrestleeach other anymore because
they're in two differentcompanies.
Now that they're in the samecompany, you know.
But yeah, I'm going to pick,you say, kenny Omega.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
No, I still haven't picked.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I just don't know.
I think it's.
This is a hard one, because wholoses?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Who takes the?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
pin?
That's the real question whotakes the pin in this match?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, yeah, I'm thinking about that, but I'm
going to just say Kenny Omegawins, yeah, but I just don't
know who takes the pin, becauseif I'm picking Kenny Omega, he
doesn't take the pin.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
He pins somebody, so who's he pinning?
Mike Bailey, I think Mike.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Bailey takes the pin?
Yeah, but who do you gotwinning?
Have you picked yet?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I know who I want to win.
I hope he wins because his workso far has been good.
He's embracing the crowd.
He's actually doing good crowdwork too, ricochet.
I hope Ricochet wins.
(21:55):
He's doing good crowd work too.
Like, like I said, he'sembracing the heel persona.
You know just, he's doingeverything the right way.
I mean he's he's a, he's a heel, but he's doing everything the
right way.
You know the fans hating him.
He's not trying to.
He's not trying to get the fansto like him yeah you know the
fans don't like him.
Okay, cool.
I don't like you either, butI'm still gonna go out here and
wrestle better than anybody youlike.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, that's the best tip at heel work.
Not trying to make the crowdlike you, but just understanding
that the crowd doesn't like youExactly.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'm going to go out here and wrestle and be the best
wrestler in the match and youstill not going to like me.
Okay, cool, I'm better thanyour favorite wrestler.
Now what you know now what.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Unless your favorite wrestlers are like three people
obviously yeah, I mean it's justyeah, this guy is better than
him I'm just saying on averagehe's better than most people
favorite right there's likethree people in aw are better
than in my opinion yeah, I meanit's a few, but yeah, at least
three.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But but yeah, I got ricochet winning that one, just
because his heel work so far hasbeen nice so I have Kenny Omega
, you have Ricochet.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So are we just saying Mike Bailey takes the pin?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
no, I'm gonna say Ricochet pins, kenny Omega, and
it sets up all in.
I'm gonna say Ricochet pins,kenny Omega, and it sets up them
in a one on one for all in.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I'm not seeing their.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You ricochet pins in Omega and it sets up them in a
one-on-one for all in.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I'm not seeing their vision.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
See the vision man.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
See the vision, stick to it.
See the vision.
No, but for another match onthe card, you were done right.
Another match on the card isthe Death Riders versus Rated
FTR.
For the Trios match, you weredone right, yeah, another match
on the card is the death ridersversus rated, rated ftr.
For the uh, it's a trios match.
Um, for the aw world trioschampionships and the death
(23:46):
riders have been on a hot streakwinning lately and ftr seems a
bit rated.
Ftr seems a bit rocky so far abit rated.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Ftr seems a bit rocky so far.
A bit A bit Rocky.
Yeah, a little bit Shoot.
They're on different sides.
They're on different sides,seems like.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And I just think that built up aggression from all
three people really in the group.
I just think it just spills outinto this match and there's
just complications and the DeathRiders win.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, that's all that you got.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
All right, stay with me now.
Death Riders win.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
But only because FTR turns on Cope.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'm losing you right there.
Yep, I'm losing you right there.
Yep, I don't see that, becausethey're frustrated with Cope.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They're frustrated with each other, but they can
get over their issues and what Ithink is going to happen happen
.
They've both been going at eachother.
They've refused to shake eachother's hand.
They had the issues with thereferee last week.
I think so he paid them $500,whatever it was it was $10,000,
(25:14):
paid them some money, apologizedto them and all that.
You know didn't shake his hand.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
But $10,000 for pushing someone.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know they're old school guys.
Never put your hand on them forfree at all.
They're free.
Never put your hand on them.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, but like, like that's at least a thousand, not
ten thousand though probably putan extra in there for them.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Probably friends, probably friends for each other
too, but uh, but no.
So I'm gonna say that I meanFTR.
They have been heels beforemm-hmm, yeah, they have been
heels before.
So and and we all know Copa'shistory of people turning on-
him.
Oh yeah, a lot so it'sinevitable that his that history
(25:58):
of people turning on him.
Oh yeah, A lot.
So it's inevitable that peoplehe's with turns on him.
It just never fits.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I don't think he's had a good relationship in a
while.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Exactly Nobody.
No matter who he's with, nomatter what group he's with,
they always turn on him.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I mean, he started off a Christian Mm-hmm, and then
so far, most recently it wasthe Judgment Day.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
MJF, no MJF.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, I think it was somebody in AEW.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Malachi.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Malachi Was it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Malachi.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Were they friends?
I don't know if they werefriends or not.
I think their rivalry juststarted.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, their rivalry started but yeah, it was a few
people, but yeah then, yeah, theobvious Jonathan, day and
Dominic and all that yeah butyeah, he's always had people
turn on him left and right.
but yeah, I think FTR is justgonna be frustrated Cope because
they can't get on the rightfoot and Cope keeps bringing
them into his fuse and they'regetting beat down because of him
(26:58):
.
Why is FTR fighting in a triosmatch with the Death Riders?
They're a tag team, not a triosteam.
Why are they not wrestlers tohurt Syndicate or the Learning
Tree?
Why are they in a match withthe Death Riders and possibly
finna get killed?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's what both of them were talking about.
That's what.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I'm saying Death Riders, try to kill people in
matches.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Like they put pass the bag on people's head.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Like why am I gonna be in a match with them and why
are you getting me in a matchwith these guys?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Like what are we doing here?
You put their differences asideand join back together.
Turn heel on Cope during thismatch, or it might be after the
match, who knows?
They may lose and then turn on.
Yeah, when they're trying tohug and all that, then boom.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, because I think it's going to be like they hug
and then Cope tries to get inand then you know, Boom, beat
him down.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So death riders.
Uh, you know, retain aw worldtrio championship yeah, how long
have they had the trio?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't know.
They had it for a while.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
They haven't defended them though is it longer for
john moxley?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
maybe close to the same, I think it's maybe a
little bit longer, though.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, I think it's longer.
Yeah, I think they win it beforethen yeah, but um yeah, that's
all you gonna say, right, yeah,that's it and for the next match
on the card it's Timeless TonyStorm versus Megan Bain for the
AEW Women's World Championship.
And for this one, I mean youhave to think about
(28:30):
interferences first of all, andthen I don't know, because like
I don't know, I think, like mygut instinct says timeless tony
storm, but like you have tothink interferences and just
shenanigans in general, yeah, um, but I must say I know I say
(28:57):
this a lot, but I don't thinkthis close to all in is going to
someone's going to win thechampionship or like, yeah, win
the championship.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So you got Toni Storm .
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, before I start this, toni Storm is the best
wrestler this year by far yeahshe's gonna win wrestler of the
year again.
If she doesn't, that's arobbery yeah, she won wrestler
of the year last year.
She better win again this year.
There's no other femalewrestler heck.
There's no other man wrestlerout there right now.
I mean there's.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Will Ospreay?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
no, no, but like the best character Just best
wrestler, yeah, like her.
Oh yeah, the best characterobviously I mean but that's
supposed to say that's allaround.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
PWI best wrestler period, that's everything.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You know, championship fuse everything and
she's been the best.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh yeah, she has some good fuse too.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
That Herb Mariah May.
That's probably a feud of theyear right there by far.
If that's not a feud of theyear, what is?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I have no idea.
Name me another.
One Hasn't even compared,really.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's what I'm saying.
I mean CM Punk and DrewMcIntyre was close, but it
wasn't like this.
This was different.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Even like yeah, you said WWE.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I thought we were talking about AEW, say I'm
talking about all of wrestlingperiod.
Yeah, like I.
I was thinking about that for asecond.
I said pwi is all wrestlers.
Yeah, so pwi, when they let,when it's holding you know, pwi,
yeah, pro wrestling illustrated, they release, uh, like they do
.
I think it's top 500 wrestlersof the year.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I think okay for this year.
Um does last year stuff counttoo?
It's in the, it's in thecalendar year.
Oh so when it releases sometimethis year, um does last year's
stuff count too?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
it's in the it's in the calendar year oh so when
they release it sometime thisyear uh, usually like summertime
, I think in the summer earlyfall oh cause, if they're doing
that, does Roman Reigns and CodyRose not count?
For a few of the year yeah,yeah.
Maybe I don't know.
I'm not sure when it gets toSalt, if it does count.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know.
I feel like that's going to geteither that or Mamara Mayhem.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
No, Rahm and Tony Storm refute a year for sure.
That's not even close.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I think what makes the Cody Rose's Roman Reigns
feel so good is the last match,the WrestleMania yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean that's probably like moment of the year
.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
That could be moment of the year.
It did rank there, that's whatI'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Moment of the year, yeah, because he had all the
nostalgic people come back andall that.
But not match of the year, no,no, no.
But feud of the year, yeah, Imean match of the year, I don't
know if we would put Tony Stormthere for match of the year.
No, I don't think.
It was up there yeah because yougot some other matches.
You probably got some New Japanwrestling.
I haven't been to New Japanthis year too much, but New
(31:39):
Japan has some pretty goodmatches as far as match of the
year candidates.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I mean just the indies in general probably have
better matches than the topcompanies, I think.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's what I like about Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI.
They put a lot of indiewrestlers in there too.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
So they have like 500 wrestlers 500?
Yeah, 1,000.
Or 500?
No, 500.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh, and that's 500 wrestlers like all over, not
just WB, aew, tna.
Ring Honor it's like people wholike wrestle in like Comeback
Zone and you know this one andthat one and you know Pro
Guerrilla.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And you that one.
And yeah, you know pro gorilla.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And then you know, I mean pro gorilla is probably
probably like that, like mlw orsomething like that.
They got ones like even smallerthan those.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know, you know those are probably the biggest,
like indie promotions it was c,c, czw or whatever it is.
I think it's not pronounced, Ithink it's something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, like the, the hardcore one yeah yeah, like,
but they have those guys inthere, you know, guys you
probably never heard of, andthen guys you may see later on.
You know you know up and comers, sometimes some guys you may
see in there, oh okay, and thenboom, you know so not to get off
topic, but yeah, so, yeah, prowrestling.
Yeah, that's by far it's goingto be, she's going to by far be
(32:56):
women wrestler of the yeareasily again, there's not
everybody's going for secondplace yeah, there's not.
There should not be a doubt inanybody's mind especially at
women's that's what I'm saying.
Women's wrestling probablymen's too, but I mean men's
wrestler of the year it's goingto give it to Cody.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, probably they're going to give it to Cody
.
It should be Will Osborne, Ithink, yeah but they're going to
give it to Cody.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They're going to give it to Cody.
They're going to give it toCody, but anyways, off topic.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I don't think Cody deserves a relief he's going to
get it though, but anyways, youalready get your go already.
Not to get off topic again, butMar me, mariah May might win
Women of the Long.
No, toni, storm, Mariah, shemight be top 10, but no, Toni
Storm Top 10?
.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, top 5.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
She has to be number 2.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
No she'd be top 10.
No, these are the only peoplewho'd be top 5 of 10.
Because you got other wrestlersin there.
How many do you still got TippiStratton.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, jordan Grace.
Rhea ripley dang, I forgot, Iforgetting.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's not just adw so I mean marcia stanovich yeah so
I mean athena I mean she's beenringing on a champ for like two
years.
So dang, I didn't know the ringwas that long yeah, she's been
ringing on chat for a while.
So you got I mean you got abunch of women, that I mean you
(34:19):
got people from independent resI can't think of names right now
but you got a bunch of themthat can easily be, you know
yeah, it's like there's a bunchof them in there.
Then you got normal.
You know baileys and charlottesand biancas and jays and yeah,
oh, maybe bianca might winwomen's of the Year.
No, she's not going to win it.
I'm just saying you got theones like that and then you know
(34:41):
.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
No, oh, I know what.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And then, you got Mercedes, who's been collecting
belts all year, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I know who's the top contender for second.
What's that, io Sky?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, io Sky, yeah, you got them.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
But yeah, that's what you're going to say for that
match.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
No, I appreciate who's going to win.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
saying is going to win.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Oh, toni Storm, Toni Storm.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So, yeah, I got Toni Storm winning too.
Megan Baines is good.
I think she's still a littleyoung Not young, but a little.
This is going to be a goodmatch.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Like too early in the history, she's a powerhouse,
though she's definitely apowerhouse by far.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh yeah, I'm ready.
You know who I want to see herwrestle against when she comes
back from injury?
Who Camille?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Her and Camille in the match.
Make it when they get back.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You know she's already wrestled Chris
Statlander already she wrestledher like on Dynamite, was it
yeah?
So when.
Camille comes back from.
I think a is gonna win thiseasily, and but I want to see
who they're gonna feud her withfor going into all in, because I
(35:41):
mean I don't know, I don't knowif rob may is gonna get that
again or they're gonna have itsomebody else, I think thunder
rosa, maybe, yeah, maybe becausethey're in texas thunder rose
from mexico, so I don't know ifit's gonna be yeah, who would it
be?
actually, I don't know, I'msaying I have'm saying I have no
idea, but anyways, Tony Thomas,Tony Storm's going to win it's.
I think it's going to beanother good match.
I mean, she doesn't really havebad matches.
Oh yeah, not really I mean youknow, I mean you know we got to
(36:07):
talk about, you know, nxt timeNXT.
That'd be fun with Toni Stormby far.
They ain't know what to do withher.
Yeah, I mean, they fumbled herbig time.
I mean you don't get rid ofsomebody like her, but I'm glad
they did, because now she's ableto show what she can do as far
as a character aspect and awrestling aspect.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So but yeah, is that her real name.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, because what?
How could she keep it?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
What's her wrestling?
She already had a name for herWWE.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Oh, what's her name for WWE?
I forgot about that.
Yeah, name for WWE.
You can keep it.
Or it's a real name, or a realname.
How are they going to take areal name from?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
you Real name or name for WWE, then you're good.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
But yeah, for the last match on the card is Jon
Moxley versus Swerve Strickland,with Prince Nana in his corner,
for the AEW World Championship.
And the first thing with any ofthe Death Rider matches you
have to think of theinterferences that could
possibly happen.
But the Death Riders do have amatch.
(37:13):
But Marina Shafir is stillavailable.
She doesn't have a match.
But marina shafir is stillavailable.
She doesn't have a match.
Yeah, um, and depending on howserious uh willow's um neck
injury is, you know, um, shecould.
She could be out of action formaybe a month or two or she
could show up, who knows?
(37:34):
She might show up with a neckbrace, which I think is going to
happen.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, I mean who knows, but you know what I'm
saying.
Who knows how bad it might bewhen it gets?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
down to the really one-on-one.
I think I'm saying this toomuch, but I just don't see Jon
Moxley losing the title thisclose to Lynn.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Is that just me thinking that no.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
It's close to all in.
Yeah, Is that just me likethinking that?
No, that's fair, that's a fairassumption.
I mean, I think it's a fairassumption anyways.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Wait, when is all in again?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Not sure, Next month maybe.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think it's June.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Is it June, sometime in summer?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
No, july, it's like July the 11th.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, because that's this month, that's Sunday, so
two months from now.
Usually it's two months inbetween pay-per-views, so this
is April May.
Yeah, it's probably June,july-ish, so we're on there.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, but I think Jon Moxley is going to win.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I really don't want Jon Moxley to retain the belt.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Why.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
He's had it too long.
It's inevitable at this point.
He's not thanos man come onhe's he's basically thanos
here's what I want to happen.
I know it won't happen, but doyou see the, the teaser between
him and hanging man?
Yeah that almost like they're,it's something they're gonna
team up almost because, I mean,swerve admitted that he was in
(38:54):
the wrong doing that feud yeahremember when the hangman said I
burned your house down?
He said, yeah, I deserved it.
Yeah, and then the hangman saidwhat did you say?
And then he walked off like hewas good, like he's okay good,
we good.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Like he didn't say that, but the way he walked off.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
he didn't keep arguing, but then Swer, you got
thrown the glass and all that,but he got back up.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
How did security leave, but right before, and
just never came back?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I mean, I really want Swerve to win.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, but you know there's going to be some time
for glory going on down there,man.
That's the number one thing forDeath Rider matches, Unless
Swerve has a plan, Because ifyou're smart which Swerve
normally is you expect this tohappen.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
He has a plan on all Dynamites when they show up.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You expect it to happen.
You expect them to be there.
So if I'm Swerve, I'm having ahaving a backup plan too.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I'm going to hire some people.
I'm having a backup plan for mybackup plan exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I'm going to go get some guys to help me out too, so
that way, if they do show up,boom.
Hey, y'all come on, help me,let's go, they show up.
Y'all got my back right.
All right, let's go, there wego.
If they don't show up, don'tworry about it.
And if willow's good, it'sprobably willow and then, like
you said, maybe hangman page orsomebody, somebody need to help
me because, okay, no, here's thething, here's the thing.
(40:25):
Everybody in aw, don't nobodywant to get to help john moxley
okay, yeah, here's like samethought as you.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Here's what I'm thinking like extreme rules
match, like we had against Cope.
Why doesn't everybody in thelocker room join together and
jump him in the ring?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Don't nobody want him to lose the bill.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
How are the Death Riders going to go?
5 against 40?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Nobody wants to help.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Nobody helps ever.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Death Riders is going around beating everybody up
backstage and none of them wantto help out and get their
payback.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, because they attacked the whole roster and
somehow won.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So nobody in the locker room want to squabble up.
Yeah so none of them want tosquabble.
That's what it is.
So none of them want tosquabble.
They want to get beat up anddon't want to get their look
back.
Yeah, because thatley is goingto keep on winning.
Keep on talking to people withthat bulldog choke that he keep
on doing and keep retaining thebelt and walking out with that
(41:22):
white t-shirt on.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, even the heels and the baby faces they could
join together, because it's allfor one cow.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
It's just to get John Moxley out the championship
picture and give it to somebodyelse and then get the reference
word.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I think it's a little bit selfish, though, because I
think it's like because, likethey won't help, they won't want
to help someone else becausethey don't want them to win the
championship.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I think that's what's happening across the locker
room, yep.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
But yeah, so yeah, I mean, I think Jon's going to win
, but I want Swerve to win,though.
Man, I really want Swerve towin, like I'm saying it's
inevitable.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
He might as well beat Thanos at this point.
They're both bald.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say
Swerve.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Swerve.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Nah, I know what's going to happen, but because I
want to put it into the universeout there, I'm going to say
swerve.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
You're just going to lose at this point.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I know, but I want to put it out there.
If I don't put it out there, itwon't happen.
So if I put it out there, maybeit'll happen.
If I don't put it out there, itdefinitely won't happen.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
That's going to be one person thinking that so.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I'm going to put it out there I'll be that one
person, then It'll be two orthree, we'll be the only three
people going for it.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
There might be a couple more people you know.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
A few more, but we'll be the main three going for it.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
So but yeah, that's all you were going to say.
That's it man All right.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Anything else on this AEW Dynasty?
Nope, all right.
So nothing else to be said, Ijust want to say one thing like
two words.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
This looks like a really good pay-per-view about
to come up it is.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I mean, you know, aw always stacks their
pay-per-views up it's going tobe a long one, though it's going
to be long.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
It's going to be about four hours wait is all in
two nights, or one, just onedang, that's going to be like
nine hours.
I hope it should one Dangthat's going to be like nine
hours probably.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I hope it.
It should be two nights, butit's going to be one though,
because I don't think they wantto copy WWE and make it into two
nights.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
that's just more convenient, though.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
If they put two nights, people are you know,
what the IWC is going to besaying, but that's just the I,
the actual like the, we know thepeople who pay for the, the
green shirt guys.
They won't care we know, but alot of fans who do care gonna be
like oh, they're copying thenew music.
(43:44):
They're copying, they're doingtwo nights, okay, so what?
They're trying to split up tomake more time, to give you more
wrestling cause?
Speaker 1 (43:51):
why would?
Why would?
Why would you have it on onenight when more people are just
going to tune in for two nights?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Because WrestleMania going on two nights one of the
best things to ever happen.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Because I went to WrestleMania when it was one
night so long it was somethinglike four hours.
Yeah, four and a half hours.
I mean good, but you only gotfour and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Now you got like three, you got six hours now,
yeah, and I went 7, like 8, Ithink 22, so 3 years ago and I
could barely sleep through onenight of Wrestlemania, with the
Friday Night Smackdown and theHall of Fame, but like, yeah,
(44:30):
it's just more convenient that'swhat I'm saying, so so anything
else we can talk about?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
nope, I think that's it alright, this has been
another one.
I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
Another episode of.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Tag Team.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Talk.
welcome to the Ben and Bash podcast tag team talk.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit the mat with the Ben
and Bash podcast tag team talkall right for another one.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We are going to be doing our prediction for AEW
dynasty.
Uh, you know how we do it justrun down a match card.
So far, um, and uh, just giveour prediction what we think
gonna happen storylineprogressions, uh, maybe future
stuff, uh, so let's get to it uh, the first match in the card is
(00:38):
julia hart versus mercedesmonet in the first round Owen
Hart Cup Tournament.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm not sure about this one.
I feel like I don't know.
My gut instinct is to sayMercedes, but I don't know.
I might probably have to sayMercedes, though, because
originally Mercedes was my pickto win the whole Owen Hart Cup
(01:10):
tournament, but I'm not sure.
So I'm going to say MercedesMonet beats Julia Hart.
You know what you think, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Nah, I think.
I mean, if it was a regularmatch, yes, but if you watched
AEW, was it last week, you know,athena came out.
And her and Mercedes had somewords and a little bit of action
happened.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, but they're going to sell that on Collision.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
A little squabble.
There's no Collision this weekbecause of the pay-per-view.
Or is it Collision this week?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I think there is.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Okay, there might be Collision this week.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I think it's on Saturday Because it's on.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Sunday Okay, it's on Sunday, that's right.
Okay, that's right, it's onSunday, so it's on Sunday.
It is Collision.
So, yeah, collision Saturday.
So, whatever happens onCollision, was it All In?
Yeah, all In in Texas that'swhere I think it's from Mm-hmm.
So they're going to wrestle, soI think it's going to come out
(02:08):
in a fair match to get theirfeud built up some more.
But, yeah, you know, I think itcame out.
They had a little squabble, youknow, I think it came out on
top for a minute.
But yeah, I mean, mercedesdoesn't need this win.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
She just needs it, mm-hmm.
Okay, can we talk aboutsomething for a second?
Okay, there's like Roman Reigns, two titles, but like she has
four entire sets of belts.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, she's a belt collector.
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
She's like Thanos, trying to collect all the
affinity stones, Exactly yeah.
What's wrong with that?
She shouldn't have every titlein, like every single company
ever exist?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
then beat her, then beat her.
If they don't want her out ofthe belt, then beat her, simple
as that.
Then find somebody to beat herin other companies.
I mean, if they don't want herto have it, then find somebody
that can beat her.
I mean simple as that.
Yeah, you know.
So I mean Julia Hartney.
(03:15):
I mean she's just coming backfrom a injury.
I can't remember what kind ofinjury it was, but she's coming
back from an injury, maybe aknee injury or something like
that.
I can't remember, but she'sjust come back from an injury.
So, yeah, she needs this more.
You know, get some moremomentum built up.
I've taken a little hiatus lastyear.
Mercedes, she doesn't need it.
She's all these belts she has afew coming with her at all in.
(03:38):
I mean, yeah, it'd be good towin the own Hart Cup because
it's a great tournament for agreat call.
He's a great wrestler.
But you know, julia Hart needsa little more than Mercedes does
.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Mm-hmm.
You know, so you're pickingJulia Hart.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, with some interference from Athena or
Philly Starks.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Winning them two.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Okay For the second match on the card.
It's Will Ospreay versus KevinKnight, and Kevin Knight
replaced Jade White and.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
This is also the first round.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, wait, it is.
Yeah, it's also the first roundof the.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Heart Cup match.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
This is the only Owen Hart Cup thing besides the
women's match.
Right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
As far as I know anyways, unless they have some
other ones.
But yeah, as far as I know,it's the only other one on there
.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And it's Will Ospreay and Kevin Knight, and I got a
glimpse of Kevin Knight just inthe past AWs, just like in the
past AWs.
But I think Will Ospreay isgonna win the entire cup
tournament, and in order to winthe cup tournament, you have to
(04:55):
win first round.
So I'm predicting Will Ospreaybeats Kevin Knight.
I think it's gonna be a cleanmatch too, cause I think they
have respect for each other.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Kevin Knight he's been to be a clean match too,
because I think they haverespect for each other.
Yeah, same Kevin Knight.
He's been around for a while.
I mean, he was in New Japan ProWrestling.
He was in, I think, the SuperJuniors this year.
Yeah, Super Juniors.
He was in TNA for a littlewhile and he made his way over
to AEW last month, I think itwas.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think it was last month I saw him for the first
time at AEW.
So I mean he's been around fora little while and you know he's
finally getting his shine on inAEW.
I mean this is going to be agood match.
I mean, you know, and WillOspreay always puts good matches
on anyways.
So but yeah, like I said, willOspreay he's, unless the wild
card is somebody.
So what?
(05:47):
There's a wild card in themen's.
I can't remember if there's awild card in the women's
tournament or not.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I don't think there is.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
There's a wild card in the men's match.
Who that is, I'm not sure, butas far as it goes right now it
looks like Will Ospreay isprobably the frontrunner for
that.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Just because he's will osprey.
And you know, I mean dependingon who the wild card if it's
like this big name, but they'rewrestling on adam page though
hangman.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So yeah, we'll see, we'll see, I don't know.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayinglike that's some tough
competition yeah, oh, hard cupusually is tough competition
wait um are will osprey andhangman page on different sides
of the bracket.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'll have to look at it to see.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Because, if they are, I feel like they're going to be
in the finals, depending on whothe wild card is.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I'll have to look at it and see if they're on
the same bracket or not.
But yeah, I got Will Ospreaygoing for the win on that one as
well.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, and for the third match on the card is Chris
Jericho versus Bandito in atitle versus mask match, and the
title on the line is theWorld's Honor.
Wait, how do you say that Iforgot Ring of Honor World
(07:04):
Championship?
See that I forgot ring of honorworld championship.
Um, and uh, for this one, Imean, chris jericho has been a
dominant champion.
Um, I mean, I don't know, Idon't see bandito.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I wouldn't really call him dominant, but he's been
a champion.
I'm don't want to call itdominant, though, but you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, but I don't see Bandito losing his mask.
You know His brother did, yeahhis brother did, but like I just
don't see him losing his mask,but I don't see Chris Jericho
losing the title either.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And people didn't think Chris Jericho was going to
lose his mask either.
And he did, and he did, and hedid too.
So I mean it's happened before.
I mean Santos lost his in AAA,I think it was yeah.
So I mean people I can'tremember if Andrade lost his or
he just took his off when hecame to the B, I can't remember,
(08:02):
but I mean it's been.
You know, luchador has losttheir match before you know, but
yeah, I don't know ifBen-Dude's actually going to
lose his or not.
I don't see him losing hiseither, but I wouldn't be
surprised if he did though.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
But yeah go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't know, though, because the Learning Tree has a
match, so they're probably notgoing to get involved.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, I don't think they will, but it could, though
it depends on where this matcheson the card.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It could be here or it could be there on the card
Learning Tree.
Could be first, I don't know.
However, you know the card issubject to change.
It could be.
Who knows how the card matchesare going to be actually.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I think Hold on.
I need to think about this fora second.
I think Bandito is going to win.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You think Bandito is going to win?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's the only logical way because, unless I
mean he loses his mask I haven'tseen Luchador lose his mask in
a while.
I mean, that's rare forLuchador to lose his mask Like
legitimately, like withoutsomebody taking it off.
You know, like I said, withGravity it happened what Chris
Jericho did and then like whatChris Jericho did, and then what
Xavier Woods did to Dragon Lee.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, and Grande America.
You can't forget about him.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
What they did, take the mask off, like that Stuff,
like that happens.
But to lose a title versus maskmatch and you just gotta take
your mask off so that everybodycan.
You can't hide your face aspart of the match.
You gotta take your actual maskoff so people can see your face
.
So I don't see, unless Banditois, unless he's ready to do that
.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know like, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And it would make sense for him to have the title
too.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Exactly, you know, I mean Chris Jericho's had to.
He's had to build long enoughalready yeah so yeah, it would
make sense for Bandito to win,you know.
So yeah, I got Bandito.
And you know, and yeah, chrisJericho could get to build
somebody.
I don't like Chris Jericho,that ring on her build anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I mean, he's rarely on Ring of Honor TV.
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He wrestles all the time on Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I didn't know that he had the world title.
I thought he had the mid-cardtitle for the longest.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No, he has a ring on him too.
He has a world championship.
Yeah, like I said, ben Nealactually wrestles on Ring of
Honor sometimes.
I've not seen Chris Yurik onRing of Honor.
That I know of anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I think I've seen him on a couple pay-per-views, but
that's it.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm saying the TV shows.
I rarely see him on those.
Yeah, he's never on.
Yeah, but yeah for anothermatch on the card it's Daniel
Garcia versus.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Adam Cole for the AWTNA Championship.
Tnt, tnt, that's what I meant?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Did I say TNA?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, it's Thursday, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
And there's no time limit or um no outside
interference which is big cause.
Yeah, both guys have uh teamsand groups that that can help
them out yeah, you know, thetime limit part is really big
cause most cause most titlematches like this, but they
wrestled before to a time limitdraw.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, so that's why they got no time limit because
they both wrestled to a timelimit draw before.
So no time limit means therehas to be, it has to be a winner
.
You can't, you can't saythere's a 30 minute rule and
then 30 minutes go up and thewinner retains his belt, so
there has to be a winner, unlessthere's disqualification which
now I mean it's adam cole.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
But like I don't know because I don't know, because I
just I don't know on this oneit's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's a hard one.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
There's two good wrestlers um, since it's so
close to all land, unlessthey're pulling WWE um, I don't
see Adam Cole winning thechampionship this close to all
winning.
So I'm going to just say DanielGarcia, because he's been a
(12:24):
dominant champion.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, but I'm going to get Adam Cole to win because
he's had a rough go around andbroke his ankle.
I mean he came back, got hurtagain.
I mean he can't catch a breakright now.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So he needs his more than Daniel Garcia does, for
sure, oh yeah, definitely.
I mean absolutely.
So I think Adam Cole is goingto pull this out.
It's going to be a hard foughtbattle, for sure.
Oh yeah, this could easily beone of the matches of the night,
if not the match of the nightright here.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean you got two good wrestlers.
I mean so yeah, this couldeasily be match of the night
right here, for sure, definitely.
But yeah, I got Adam Colewinning this one in a real close
match, but adam cole's gonnapull it out, I think, uh, yeah,
I think ab coles gonna pull thisone out, just you know yeah,
(13:24):
and for another match on thecard, it's the hurt set sent
signiquin.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I can never pronounce that word syndicate, syndicate,
uh, versus the Learning Treewhich is Big Bill and Brian
Keith for the AEW World Tag TeamChampionships, and for this one
, for some reason, I didn't knowwho's going to win.
But then a thought popped in mymind earlier.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Don't know you better not say it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
What.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I think that MJF is going to interfere in the match
and give the Hurt Syndicate thewin.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, I thought you were going to go somewhere else
with that.
Okay, okay, is it?
Yeah?
Okay, yeah, I mean BobbyLashley, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Sheldon Benjamin Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
MVP, mvp, I mean they have Big Bill though.
I mean Bobby Lashley.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, sheldon Benjamin, mm-hmm.
Mvp.
I mean, they have Big Billthough.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
They got Bobby Lashley.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I mean, brian Keefe is a good wrestler too.
He's one of the betterwrestlers too, yeah, but Sheldon
Benjamin is too, uh-huh.
Bobby Lashley is too.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
MVP, not Slav.
I think they have the betterteam.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Exactly by far.
Well, yeah definitely by far toher, seneca does.
And then you got MVP, and then,like I said, who knows what MJF
is going to be up to?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Because he said prove himself.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But then they're also trying to prove themselves, so
it kind of evens out.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But could MJF cost him by accident?
Trying to prove himself.
Yeah, I mean mean, I hope hedoesn't.
But what happens if he comesout there and try to prove
himself and cost them the bill?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
okay and then that leads to something else yeah,
you know like hope he doesn't,but like if he does come out
like cost in the match I don'tknow why, but I kind of want the
learning tree to win, but Idon't think they're going to be
unbearable?
I don't think they're gonna win, but I feel like I I want them
to win, but I don't thinkthey're going.
That'd be unbearable.
I don't think they're going towin, but I feel like I want them
to win.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, absolutely not.
No, that's going to beunbearable.
On Dynamite and Collision, theyalready talked too much, as is
you imagine that with the tagteam builds too.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Absolutely not.
No, they already talked toomuch With Chris Jericho too.
No, no, no, they already talkedtoo much with Chris Jericho too
.
No, no, man.
And they probably used the freeword rule too yeah, where,
chris.
Jericho could be.
He could be one of thechampions too, like New Day did
and like other uh trios, uhgroups have done yeah so, yeah,
(15:53):
hurston and Kidd, I think, isgonna win it.
You know, I I really hope MJFdoesn't cost him this match
because I really don't want tosee the hurt of their entry.
So I'm going to go with theHurston and Kidd just because of
that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh, that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, hurston and Kidd yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Okay, for the next match on the card is Kenny Omega
versus Ricochet versusSpeedball Mike Bailey for the
AEW International Championship.
Now Ricochet and Mike Baileyboth pinned the same person.
(16:33):
I forgot his name.
It was someone from the DonCallis family.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, he used to be with Hal Fletcher.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, he still is.
Yeah, he's with him now.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I can't think of his name now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Mark something, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
But they both pin the same person and there's a
triple threat match now, soanything can happen.
But I mean, it's Kenny Omega,it's.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Ricochet, man, ricochet.
This is probably Ricochet'sbest run, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But it's Kenny Omega, though I think Kenny Omega is
better than Ricochet.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He is, but this is Ricochet's best work in a while,
man.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
He's doing.
People don't like Ricochet, butthis is Ricochet man.
He's doing his best work rightnow.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I mean he's embracing the crowd hating him and he's
been executing it perfectly.
He knows the crowd doesn't likehim for whatever reason and
he's been literally feeding offof it and doing it better.
He's just been feeding off ofit.
(17:48):
Sometimes you need that changeof scenery.
Sometimes it's better to dothat.
He left WWE, came to AEW andhe's doing better now.
So some people thought when heleft WWE he wasn't going to be
doing this, and for a while hewas like he was going to be in
the same situation in AEW.
But then fans started booinghim and he used that as a way to
(18:11):
get to where he's at now, andnow he's in the Magic Kenny
Omega and Mike Bailey.
You're talking about Kenny Omega, one of the best wrestlers in
the world, mike Bailey's prettygood himself, not going to
slouch either.
It's a triple threat match.
I mean, this is another matchthat could be up there for match
of the night as well, by far.
I mean, who'd you pick to winthis one?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Oh, I haven't picked yet.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Go ahead and finish yours up.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Let's see.
I just don't see Kenny Omegalosing the championship.
This, not this close to all-in,but this.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
This close to all-in.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
No, not this close to all-in, just like I don't see
Kenny Omega having this short ofa reign.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
But he don't have to lose that strip threat match.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, all those apply , but like.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
That's a problem too, though he don't have to lose it
.
He don't have to get pinned tolose his belt.
That's the danger of a triplethreat match.
Like Mike Bailey can get pinnedby Ricochet and Ricochet wins.
Yeah, can get pinned by.
Ricochet, ricochet wins, orvice versa Mike Bailey can pin
Ricochet and Mike Bailey winsand Kenny Omega loses his belt.
And didn't even win any decision, instead of a one-on-one where
(19:24):
you've got to beat the champ,which is a little bit harder to
beat Kenny Omega in a one-on-onematch, you put another person
in there, now Kenny Omega don'tgot to win or fatal four-way or
elimination match, you know, orladder matches or whatever that
match kind of be.
You know now you got a betterchance of beating them because
then you got more obstacles andmore.
You know, more things in thematch that can affect the match.
(19:47):
Instead of a regular one-on-one.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I think Mike Bailey takes the pin right.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
He just came to AEW too.
I don't know, that's theproblem.
Who takes the pin?
Because Kenny Omega is up there.
Ricochet is having a heck of arun.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
If Kenny Omega loses, I don't think he takes the pin.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Or he could, and that could set the feud with whoever
pins him for All In.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I mean whoever pins him.
That could set the few betweenthem one-on-one at all in.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Like I want to see Ricochet and Kena Megas in a
one-on-one match.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I mean, I think most people want to see Ricochet and
Will Ospreay, but that's notgoing to happen right now.
They're saving that one.
No, they've done that before.
Yeah, but they're saving thematch.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Like the big match.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, they're saving that one for a while Because
they're there.
They're both in the samecompany, so they can hold that
one for a minute and they don'thave to put them together right
now, when they were in differentcompanies.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
It was just seen as another dream match.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Exactly when they had wrestling show.
They were younger.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And since they were both in different companies,
they're not going to wrestleeach other anymore because
they're in two differentcompanies.
Now that they're in the samecompany, you know.
But yeah, I'm going to pick,you say, kenny Omega.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
No, I still haven't picked.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I just don't know.
I think it's.
This is a hard one, because wholoses?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Who takes the?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
pin?
That's the real question whotakes the pin in this match?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, yeah, I'm thinking about that, but I'm
going to just say Kenny Omegawins, yeah, but I just don't
know who takes the pin, becauseif I'm picking Kenny Omega, he
doesn't take the pin.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
He pins somebody, so who's he pinning?
Mike Bailey, I think Mike.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Bailey takes the pin?
Yeah, but who do you gotwinning?
Have you picked yet?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I know who I want to win.
I hope he wins because his workso far has been good.
He's embracing the crowd.
He's actually doing good crowdwork too, ricochet.
I hope Ricochet wins.
(21:55):
He's doing good crowd work too.
Like, like I said, he'sembracing the heel persona.
You know just, he's doingeverything the right way.
I mean he's he's a, he's a heel, but he's doing everything the
right way.
You know the fans hating him.
He's not trying to.
He's not trying to get the fansto like him yeah you know the
fans don't like him.
Okay, cool.
I don't like you either, butI'm still gonna go out here and
wrestle better than anybody youlike.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, that's the best tip at heel work.
Not trying to make the crowdlike you, but just understanding
that the crowd doesn't like youExactly.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'm going to go out here and wrestle and be the best
wrestler in the match and youstill not going to like me.
Okay, cool, I'm better thanyour favorite wrestler.
Now what you know now what.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Unless your favorite wrestlers are like three people
obviously yeah, I mean it's justyeah, this guy is better than
him I'm just saying on averagehe's better than most people
favorite right there's likethree people in aw are better
than in my opinion yeah, I meanit's a few, but yeah, at least
three.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But but yeah, I got ricochet winning that one, just
because his heel work so far hasbeen nice so I have Kenny Omega
, you have Ricochet.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
So are we just saying Mike Bailey takes the pin?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
no, I'm gonna say Ricochet pins, kenny Omega, and
it sets up all in.
I'm gonna say Ricochet pins,kenny Omega, and it sets up them
in a one on one for all in.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I'm not seeing their.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You ricochet pins in Omega and it sets up them in a
one-on-one for all in.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I'm not seeing their vision.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
See the vision man.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
See the vision, stick to it.
See the vision.
No, but for another match onthe card, you were done right.
Another match on the card isthe Death Riders versus Rated
FTR.
For the Trios match, you weredone right, yeah, another match
on the card is the death ridersversus rated, rated ftr.
For the uh, it's a trios match.
Um, for the aw world trioschampionships and the death
(23:46):
riders have been on a hot streakwinning lately and ftr seems a
bit rated.
Ftr seems a bit rocky so far abit rated.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Ftr seems a bit rocky so far.
A bit A bit Rocky.
Yeah, a little bit Shoot.
They're on different sides.
They're on different sides,seems like.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And I just think that built up aggression from all
three people really in the group.
I just think it just spills outinto this match and there's
just complications and the DeathRiders win.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, that's all that you got.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
All right, stay with me now.
Death Riders win.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
But only because FTR turns on Cope.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'm losing you right there.
Yep, I'm losing you right there.
Yep, I don't see that, becausethey're frustrated with Cope.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They're frustrated with each other, but they can
get over their issues and what Ithink is going to happen happen
.
They've both been going at eachother.
They've refused to shake eachother's hand.
They had the issues with thereferee last week.
I think so he paid them $500,whatever it was it was $10,000,
(25:14):
paid them some money, apologizedto them and all that.
You know didn't shake his hand.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
But $10,000 for pushing someone.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know they're old school guys.
Never put your hand on them forfree at all.
They're free.
Never put your hand on them.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, but like, like that's at least a thousand, not
ten thousand though probably putan extra in there for them.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Probably friends, probably friends for each other
too, but uh, but no.
So I'm gonna say that I meanFTR.
They have been heels beforemm-hmm, yeah, they have been
heels before.
So and and we all know Copa'shistory of people turning on-
him.
Oh yeah, a lot so it'sinevitable that his that history
(25:58):
of people turning on him.
Oh yeah, A lot.
So it's inevitable that peoplehe's with turns on him.
It just never fits.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I don't think he's had a good relationship in a
while.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Exactly Nobody.
No matter who he's with, nomatter what group he's with,
they always turn on him.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I mean, he started off a Christian Mm-hmm, and then
so far, most recently it wasthe Judgment Day.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
MJF, no MJF.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, I think it was somebody in AEW.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Malachi.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Malachi Was it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Malachi.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Were they friends?
I don't know if they werefriends or not.
I think their rivalry juststarted.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, their rivalry started but yeah, it was a few
people, but yeah then, yeah, theobvious Jonathan, day and
Dominic and all that yeah butyeah, he's always had people
turn on him left and right.
but yeah, I think FTR is justgonna be frustrated Cope because
they can't get on the rightfoot and Cope keeps bringing
them into his fuse and they'regetting beat down because of him
(26:58):
.
Why is FTR fighting in a triosmatch with the Death Riders?
They're a tag team, not a triosteam.
Why are they not wrestlers tohurt Syndicate or the Learning
Tree?
Why are they in a match withthe Death Riders and possibly
finna get killed?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's what both of them were talking about.
That's what.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I'm saying Death Riders, try to kill people in
matches.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Like they put pass the bag on people's head.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Like why am I gonna be in a match with them and why
are you getting me in a matchwith these guys?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Like what are we doing here?
You put their differences asideand join back together.
Turn heel on Cope during thismatch, or it might be after the
match, who knows?
They may lose and then turn on.
Yeah, when they're trying tohug and all that, then boom.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, because I think it's going to be like they hug
and then Cope tries to get inand then you know, Boom, beat
him down.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So death riders.
Uh, you know, retain aw worldtrio championship yeah, how long
have they had the trio?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't know.
They had it for a while.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
They haven't defended them though is it longer for
john moxley?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
maybe close to the same, I think it's maybe a
little bit longer, though.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, I think it's longer.
Yeah, I think they win it beforethen yeah, but um yeah, that's
all you gonna say, right, yeah,that's it and for the next match
on the card it's Timeless TonyStorm versus Megan Bain for the
AEW Women's World Championship.
And for this one, I mean youhave to think about
(28:30):
interferences first of all, andthen I don't know, because like
I don't know, I think, like mygut instinct says timeless tony
storm, but like you have tothink interferences and just
shenanigans in general, yeah, um, but I must say I know I say
(28:57):
this a lot, but I don't thinkthis close to all in is going to
someone's going to win thechampionship or like, yeah, win
the championship.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So you got Toni Storm .
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, before I start this, toni Storm is the best
wrestler this year by far yeahshe's gonna win wrestler of the
year again.
If she doesn't, that's arobbery yeah, she won wrestler
of the year last year.
She better win again this year.
There's no other femalewrestler heck.
There's no other man wrestlerout there right now.
I mean there's.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Will Ospreay?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
no, no, but like the best character Just best
wrestler, yeah, like her.
Oh yeah, the best characterobviously I mean but that's
supposed to say that's allaround.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
PWI best wrestler period, that's everything.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You know, championship fuse everything and
she's been the best.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh yeah, she has some good fuse too.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
That Herb Mariah May.
That's probably a feud of theyear right there by far.
If that's not a feud of theyear, what is?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I have no idea.
Name me another.
One Hasn't even compared,really.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's what I'm saying.
I mean CM Punk and DrewMcIntyre was close, but it
wasn't like this.
This was different.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Even like yeah, you said WWE.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I thought we were talking about AEW, say I'm
talking about all of wrestlingperiod.
Yeah, like I.
I was thinking about that for asecond.
I said pwi is all wrestlers.
Yeah, so pwi, when they let,when it's holding you know, pwi,
yeah, pro wrestling illustrated, they release, uh, like they do
.
I think it's top 500 wrestlersof the year.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I think okay for this year.
Um does last year stuff counttoo?
It's in the, it's in thecalendar year.
Oh so when it releases sometimethis year, um does last year's
stuff count too?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
it's in the it's in the calendar year oh so when
they release it sometime thisyear uh, usually like summertime
, I think in the summer earlyfall oh cause, if they're doing
that, does Roman Reigns and CodyRose not count?
For a few of the year yeah,yeah.
Maybe I don't know.
I'm not sure when it gets toSalt, if it does count.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know.
I feel like that's going to geteither that or Mamara Mayhem.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
No, Rahm and Tony Storm refute a year for sure.
That's not even close.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I think what makes the Cody Rose's Roman Reigns
feel so good is the last match,the WrestleMania yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean that's probably like moment of the year
.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
That could be moment of the year.
It did rank there, that's whatI'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Moment of the year, yeah, because he had all the
nostalgic people come back andall that.
But not match of the year, no,no, no.
But feud of the year, yeah, Imean match of the year, I don't
know if we would put Tony Stormthere for match of the year.
No, I don't think.
It was up there yeah because yougot some other matches.
You probably got some New Japanwrestling.
I haven't been to New Japanthis year too much, but New
(31:39):
Japan has some pretty goodmatches as far as match of the
year candidates.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I mean just the indies in general probably have
better matches than the topcompanies, I think.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's what I like about Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI.
They put a lot of indiewrestlers in there too.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
So they have like 500 wrestlers 500?
Yeah, 1,000.
Or 500?
No, 500.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh, and that's 500 wrestlers like all over, not
just WB, aew, tna.
Ring Honor it's like people wholike wrestle in like Comeback
Zone and you know this one andthat one and you know Pro
Guerrilla.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And you that one.
And yeah, you know pro gorilla.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And then you know, I mean pro gorilla is probably
probably like that, like mlw orsomething like that.
They got ones like even smallerthan those.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know, you know those are probably the biggest,
like indie promotions it was c,c, czw or whatever it is.
I think it's not pronounced, Ithink it's something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, like the, the hardcore one yeah yeah, like,
but they have those guys inthere, you know, guys you
probably never heard of, andthen guys you may see later on.
You know you know up and comers, sometimes some guys you may
see in there, oh okay, and thenboom, you know so not to get off
topic, but yeah, so, yeah, prowrestling.
Yeah, that's by far it's goingto be, she's going to by far be
(32:56):
women wrestler of the yeareasily again, there's not
everybody's going for secondplace yeah, there's not.
There should not be a doubt inanybody's mind especially at
women's that's what I'm saying.
Women's wrestling probablymen's too, but I mean men's
wrestler of the year it's goingto give it to Cody.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, probably they're going to give it to Cody
.
It should be Will Osborne, Ithink, yeah but they're going to
give it to Cody.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They're going to give it to Cody.
They're going to give it toCody, but anyways, off topic.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I don't think Cody deserves a relief he's going to
get it though, but anyways, youalready get your go already.
Not to get off topic again, butMar me, mariah May might win
Women of the Long.
No, toni, storm, Mariah, shemight be top 10, but no, Toni
Storm Top 10?
.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, top 5.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
She has to be number 2.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
No she'd be top 10.
No, these are the only peoplewho'd be top 5 of 10.
Because you got other wrestlersin there.
How many do you still got TippiStratton.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, jordan Grace.
Rhea ripley dang, I forgot, Iforgetting.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's not just adw so I mean marcia stanovich yeah so
I mean athena I mean she's beenringing on a champ for like two
years.
So dang, I didn't know the ringwas that long yeah, she's been
ringing on chat for a while.
So you got I mean you got abunch of women, that I mean you
(34:19):
got people from independent resI can't think of names right now
but you got a bunch of themthat can easily be, you know
yeah, it's like there's a bunchof them in there.
Then you got normal.
You know baileys and charlottesand biancas and jays and yeah,
oh, maybe bianca might winwomen's of the Year.
No, she's not going to win it.
I'm just saying you got theones like that and then you know
(34:41):
.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
No, oh, I know what.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And then, you got Mercedes, who's been collecting
belts all year, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I know who's the top contender for second.
What's that, io Sky?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, io Sky, yeah, you got them.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
But yeah, that's what you're going to say for that
match.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
No, I appreciate who's going to win.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
saying is going to win.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Oh, toni Storm, Toni Storm.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So, yeah, I got Toni Storm winning too.
Megan Baines is good.
I think she's still a littleyoung Not young, but a little.
This is going to be a goodmatch.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Like too early in the history, she's a powerhouse,
though she's definitely apowerhouse by far.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh yeah, I'm ready.
You know who I want to see herwrestle against when she comes
back from injury?
Who Camille?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Her and Camille in the match.
Make it when they get back.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You know she's already wrestled Chris
Statlander already she wrestledher like on Dynamite, was it
yeah?
So when.
Camille comes back from.
I think a is gonna win thiseasily, and but I want to see
who they're gonna feud her withfor going into all in, because I
(35:41):
mean I don't know, I don't knowif rob may is gonna get that
again or they're gonna have itsomebody else, I think thunder
rosa, maybe, yeah, maybe becausethey're in texas thunder rose
from mexico, so I don't know ifit's gonna be yeah, who would it
be?
actually, I don't know, I'msaying I have'm saying I have no
idea, but anyways, Tony Thomas,Tony Storm's going to win it's.
I think it's going to beanother good match.
I mean, she doesn't really havebad matches.
Oh yeah, not really I mean youknow, I mean you know we got to
(36:07):
talk about, you know, nxt timeNXT.
That'd be fun with Toni Stormby far.
They ain't know what to do withher.
Yeah, I mean, they fumbled herbig time.
I mean you don't get rid ofsomebody like her, but I'm glad
they did, because now she's ableto show what she can do as far
as a character aspect and awrestling aspect.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So but yeah, is that her real name.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
No.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, because what?
How could she keep it?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
What's her wrestling?
She already had a name for herWWE.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Oh, what's her name for WWE?
I forgot about that.
Yeah, name for WWE.
You can keep it.
Or it's a real name, or a realname.
How are they going to take areal name from?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
you Real name or name for WWE, then you're good.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
But yeah, for the last match on the card is Jon
Moxley versus Swerve Strickland,with Prince Nana in his corner,
for the AEW World Championship.
And the first thing with any ofthe Death Rider matches you
have to think of theinterferences that could
possibly happen.
But the Death Riders do have amatch.
(37:13):
But Marina Shafir is stillavailable.
She doesn't have a match.
But marina shafir is stillavailable.
She doesn't have a match.
Yeah, um, and depending on howserious uh willow's um neck
injury is, you know, um, shecould.
She could be out of action formaybe a month or two or she
could show up, who knows?
(37:34):
She might show up with a neckbrace, which I think is going to
happen.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, I mean who knows, but you know what I'm
saying.
Who knows how bad it might bewhen it gets?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
down to the really one-on-one.
I think I'm saying this toomuch, but I just don't see Jon
Moxley losing the title thisclose to Lynn.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Is that just me thinking that no.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
It's close to all in.
Yeah, Is that just me likethinking that?
No, that's fair, that's a fairassumption.
I mean, I think it's a fairassumption anyways.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Wait, when is all in again?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Not sure, Next month maybe.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think it's June.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Is it June, sometime in summer?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
No, july, it's like July the 11th.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, because that's this month, that's Sunday, so
two months from now.
Usually it's two months inbetween pay-per-views, so this
is April May.
Yeah, it's probably June,july-ish, so we're on there.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, but I think Jon Moxley is going to win.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I really don't want Jon Moxley to retain the belt.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Why.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
He's had it too long.
It's inevitable at this point.
He's not thanos man come onhe's he's basically thanos
here's what I want to happen.
I know it won't happen, but doyou see the, the teaser between
him and hanging man?
Yeah that almost like they're,it's something they're gonna
team up almost because, I mean,swerve admitted that he was in
(38:54):
the wrong doing that feud yeahremember when the hangman said I
burned your house down?
He said, yeah, I deserved it.
Yeah, and then the hangman saidwhat did you say?
And then he walked off like hewas good, like he's okay good,
we good.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Like he didn't say that, but the way he walked off.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
he didn't keep arguing, but then Swer, you got
thrown the glass and all that,but he got back up.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
How did security leave, but right before, and
just never came back?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I mean, I really want Swerve to win.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, but you know there's going to be some time
for glory going on down there,man.
That's the number one thing forDeath Rider matches, Unless
Swerve has a plan, Because ifyou're smart which Swerve
normally is you expect this tohappen.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
He has a plan on all Dynamites when they show up.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You expect it to happen.
You expect them to be there.
So if I'm Swerve, I'm having ahaving a backup plan too.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I'm going to hire some people.
I'm having a backup plan for mybackup plan exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I'm going to go get some guys to help me out too, so
that way, if they do show up,boom.
Hey, y'all come on, help me,let's go, they show up.
Y'all got my back right.
All right, let's go, there wego.
If they don't show up, don'tworry about it.
And if willow's good, it'sprobably willow and then, like
you said, maybe hangman page orsomebody, somebody need to help
me because, okay, no, here's thething, here's the thing.
(40:25):
Everybody in aw, don't nobodywant to get to help john moxley
okay, yeah, here's like samethought as you.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Here's what I'm thinking like extreme rules
match, like we had against Cope.
Why doesn't everybody in thelocker room join together and
jump him in the ring?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Don't nobody want him to lose the bill.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
How are the Death Riders going to go?
5 against 40?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Nobody wants to help.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Nobody helps ever.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Death Riders is going around beating everybody up
backstage and none of them wantto help out and get their
payback.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, because they attacked the whole roster and
somehow won.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
So nobody in the locker room want to squabble up.
Yeah so none of them want tosquabble.
That's what it is.
So none of them want tosquabble.
They want to get beat up anddon't want to get their look
back.
Yeah, because thatley is goingto keep on winning.
Keep on talking to people withthat bulldog choke that he keep
on doing and keep retaining thebelt and walking out with that
(41:22):
white t-shirt on.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, even the heels and the baby faces they could
join together, because it's allfor one cow.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
It's just to get John Moxley out the championship
picture and give it to somebodyelse and then get the reference
word.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I think it's a little bit selfish, though, because I
think it's like because, likethey won't help, they won't want
to help someone else becausethey don't want them to win the
championship.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I think that's what's happening across the locker
room, yep.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
But yeah, so yeah, I mean, I think Jon's going to win
, but I want Swerve to win,though.
Man, I really want Swerve towin, like I'm saying it's
inevitable.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
He might as well beat Thanos at this point.
They're both bald.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say
Swerve.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Swerve.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Nah, I know what's going to happen, but because I
want to put it into the universeout there, I'm going to say
swerve.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
You're just going to lose at this point.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I know, but I want to put it out there.
If I don't put it out there, itwon't happen.
So if I put it out there, maybeit'll happen.
If I don't put it out there, itdefinitely won't happen.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
That's going to be one person thinking that so.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I'm going to put it out there I'll be that one
person, then It'll be two orthree, we'll be the only three
people going for it.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
There might be a couple more people you know.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
A few more, but we'll be the main three going for it.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
So but yeah, that's all you were going to say.
That's it man All right.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Anything else on this AEW Dynasty?
Nope, all right.
So nothing else to be said, Ijust want to say one thing like
two words.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
This looks like a really good pay-per-view about
to come up it is.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I mean, you know, aw always stacks their
pay-per-views up it's going tobe a long one, though it's going
to be long.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
It's going to be about four hours wait is all in
two nights, or one, just onedang, that's going to be like
nine hours.
I hope it should one Dangthat's going to be like nine
hours probably.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I hope it.
It should be two nights, butit's going to be one though,
because I don't think they wantto copy WWE and make it into two
nights.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
that's just more convenient, though.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
If they put two nights, people are you know,
what the IWC is going to besaying, but that's just the I,
the actual like the, we know thepeople who pay for the, the
green shirt guys.
They won't care we know, but alot of fans who do care gonna be
like oh, they're copying thenew music.
(43:44):
They're copying, they're doingtwo nights, okay, so what?
They're trying to split up tomake more time, to give you more
wrestling cause?
Speaker 1 (43:51):
why would?
Why would?
Why would you have it on onenight when more people are just
going to tune in for two nights?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Because WrestleMania going on two nights one of the
best things to ever happen.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Because I went to WrestleMania when it was one
night so long it was somethinglike four hours.
Yeah, four and a half hours.
I mean good, but you only gotfour and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Now you got like three, you got six hours now,
yeah, and I went 7, like 8, Ithink 22, so 3 years ago and I
could barely sleep through onenight of Wrestlemania, with the
Friday Night Smackdown and theHall of Fame, but like, yeah,
(44:30):
it's just more convenient that'swhat I'm saying, so so anything
else we can talk about?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
nope, I think that's it alright, this has been
another one.
I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
Another episode of.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Tag Team.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Talk.
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