July 12, 2025 • 38 mins
We break down every match on AEW's massive All In card in Dallas, analyzing each championship bout and special stipulation across the 11-match lineup.
• FTR expected to defeat The Outrunners on the pre-show despite recent beatdowns
• Don Callis Family predicted to win eight-man tag to get back on track after recent slump
• Ricochet picked to win Men's Casino Gauntlet Match for a world title opportunity
• Split prediction on Okada vs Omega championship unification match
• Athena favored to win Women's Casino Gauntlet after being left off one-on-one matches
• Swerve and Ospreay expected to defeat Young Bucks in high-stakes EVP status match
• Kyle Fletcher predicted to dethrone Adam Cole for TNT Championship
• Mixed predictions for triple threat tag team championship match
• The Ops favored to retain trios titles against Death Riders
• Timeless Toni Storm expected to retain against Mercedes Moné despite her belt collection
• Hangman Page predicted to defeat Jon Moxley in brutal Texas Death main event
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm Bash.
I tell them to lift up yourboots and hit them out with the
Ben and Bash Podcast Tag TeamTalk.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, here we are for another one.
This time we are going to bedoing AW.
All In, it is that card.
Was it 11 matches on the card?
Yeah, it was the pre-show.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, two pre-show matches Was it.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
11 matches on the card yeah, if you have the
pre-show.
Yeah, two pre-show matches,nine main card matches, at least
four hours.
It's going to be a good weekendof wrestling right here.
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The pre-show is FTR versus the Outrunners.
For this one I'll probably sayI don't know, honestly, but I
would probably say I mean FDRhas been beating down the
Outrunners recently.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So they might, I don't know.
I feel like the Outrunners needthis because they've been
getting beat down by FTRrecently.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, but FTR is FTR.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Still one of the best tag teams in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I'm going to go with FTR.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, I'm going to have to go FTR too on that one.
I just don't see the Outrunnersbeating them.
I mean they can, but I justdon't see the FTR losing right
now.
I just don't see them losingright now.
But I don't know why they gothim on the pre-show.
That's a stacked card for FTRto be on the pre-show, yeah, but
yeah, FTR for the first one forthe pre-show.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
In the second match on the pre-show, it's Big Boom
AJ, the conglomeration uh versusthe don callas family and eight
man tag team match, and forthis one it's probably gonna be
a good match.
Um, I mean, I don't really knowthat much about big boom aj.
I mean I know he's on youtubeand stuff, but I don't really
(01:59):
know about his wrestling.
So I mean, I know about aboutalmost everybody else in this
match, but I would probably haveto say Big Boom AJ and the
Clubglomeration no, honestly, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I would probably say Big Boom AJ's team.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, I mean that's a hard one, because you said Big
AJ.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, big Boom AJ, big Boom AJ.
That's what I think his name isanyways.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's the wrestler and all them guys.
Yeah, your favorite guy.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
What?
I don't even know them likethat, no brain ways.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
But yeah, so big boom , aj.
Or or Don Callis, don't call usfrom these a win, really yeah,
they've been a huge slump,except for Kyle Fletcher yeah
yeah, he's the one had me on meon the slot.
Really, yeah, I'm going to gowith Don Cowell's family to win
this one.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I mean, they do need it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
They need to win way more in order to get back on
track with what they're doing.
So, yeah, I'm going to go withDon Cowell's family.
Because I feel like every weekyeah so I'm going to go with Don
Counts Family on that one.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Alright, and I learned about this one a little
bit more earlier.
It's the Men's Casino GauntletMatch for AEW World Championship
match, and this one I mean.
If you want to explain it, youcan.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's just a gauntlet match where it doesn't matter.
I think it's 21 people, I think2021 people, something like
that in there and basically thewinner is whoever gets pinfall
or submission first.
So it can be the first two guys, it can be number 20, it can be
who in the match.
(03:59):
As soon as the matches ends,you know you might have 21
people scheduled to be in thematch.
The match can answer fivepeople.
Whoever gets the first pinfallmatch is over with.
So it's you might have 21people scheduled to be in the
match.
The match can end to fivepeople.
Whoever gets the first man fallmatch is over with.
So it's one of the matches whereyou want to be one of the first
ones in.
It's not like a normal BattleRoyal or Warrior Rumble in
WWE-wise where you come in alittle later and you got a
better chance of winning becauseyou're not in the match for a
whole hour.
But this one you kind of wantto be one of the first guys to
(04:21):
get opportunity to pin or submitsomebody before everybody else
comes in.
And this one's kind ofdifferent too because they come
in at interval times, so theirdifferent times are not always
like a set period, like RoyalRumbles are, or other kind of
battle royals like that, wherethey come in at a certain set
time.
This one's random, so it couldbe 30 seconds, could be 3
minutes, could be 5 minutes,whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But yeah, seconds could be three minutes, could be
five minutes, whatever, but butyeah so, but yeah.
So, as far as I know, markbriscoe and mjf are the first
two.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, and someone else right, or I think they're
the first two far so I know.
I'm not sure if anybody else, Idon't ever.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think they're the first two though so this one I
was gonna say mjf because Idon't really know who's going to
be in there, but honestly, I'mgoing to go with Ricochet.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
She said that I was thinking about Ricochet at first
, but now she said it Because Iwas just processing this,
because it was so unpredictable.
I saw Dynamite this past weekand I thought Ricochet was going
to win.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, ricochet does.
I think Ricochet was going towin.
Yeah, ricochet does.
I think Ricochet wants a worldtitle shot, which I like him to
have one.
He's been doing some great workin AEW AEW's letting him use
his personality that WWE neverlet him do, so he's able to use
his real personality.
I think it's real personality.
He's good at it.
Some of it's part of hispersonality so he's able to it.
(05:43):
So I'm assuming it's part ofwhat, some of it's part of what
he his personality, so he's ableto do that.
And you know Ricochet is a goodone man, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I mean, I just didn't know if anybody else except
Mark Briscoe MJF.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I mean it could be anybody, cause it's a battle
royale 21 guys.
So I could give it yeah, rico,21 guys.
Ricochet, I'm going to go withyou on that one.
I'm just going to say Ricocheton that one too, just to put it
out there in the air and sayRicochet's going to win Casino
Man's Battle Royal.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And the next match.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's what you're going to say yeah, that's it on
that one.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And the next match on the card is Kajuk.
I cannot pronounce his name.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okada.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, okada.
Versus Client Nanto championpronounce his name Okada.
Yeah, okada.
Versus a continental champion,versus Kenny Omega, who's the
international champion.
Is it called the UnifiedChampionship?
That's kind of a bland name.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I mean that's what it is.
I mean that's what we got todeal with.
It's the AEW UnifiedChampionship.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, that's kind of a bland name.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's like their second world title pretty much.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I mean like I know they can't do it, but
Intercontinental is right there.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
No, because that International I know what you're
saying but they, they want thisto be more like the second
world title it is.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's what they want it to be the unified champion.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Aew unified champion.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, it's like mid-card for Ms Margaret
mid-card like universalundisputed champion AEW.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
They want that to be Like the second, like you got
the World.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Champion.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
AEW World Champion, and now you also have the AEW
Unified Champion, which soundslike A World Champion.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
The mid-card Plus the mid-card Does equal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Maybe that's what I'm saying.
So they wanted to Make thatinto one Big belt, a bigger belt
.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The belt kind of Looks, weird, though it looks
like Looks like an egg.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, instead of having three what you call
mid-card, international,continental, and then the TNT.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You just have one TNT champion and then boom, those
are going to create one biggerchampionship.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, that makes more sense anyways, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And then Kenny Omega and Okada are two guys that
could easily hold that belt andmake it mean something to
whoever wins that match.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Okada.
How long has he beenContinental Champion?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
For a long time.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And he's like, barely like a lot.
Has he ever lost in ContinentalClassic?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I don't think so.
If he did, he would lose hisbelt.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, I don't think he ever did, unless he lost the
first one he was, in which Ican't remember if he did that or
not.
He might have won the first one.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's what I was thinking, but I can't remember.
Well, the first one he was inat least that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
The first one he was in, but anyways.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I mean, okada's just been on such a streak and Kenny
Omega finally has backup.
But like I don't know, I feellike Kenny Omega would win this
match, but I mean it's Okada, soyou'd never know.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, exactly, it's Okada, so you'd never know which
is a problem.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I'm going to go?
No, I'm going to go Okada.
No, I don't know.
Honestly, I'm going to go Okada.
You're going to go Okada?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
no, I don't know, honestly, I'm going to go Okada
you can't get wrong with eitherone of these guys, man.
These two guys are two of thebest in the world, actually hold
on, I'm going to do everythingmy choice, actually.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, I'm going to stick with Okada.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okada is a good one too.
That is a good one too.
That is a good one.
I don't want to pick the sameone you picked again, so I'm
going to go with Kenny Omega.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean either one of them.
That's what I'm saying Eitherone is a great pick.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You can't go wrong with either one.
I mean, both of them areguaranteed to hold that belt to
a higher prestige and make itfeel like a world championship.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, definitely.
Either one of those guys aregreat choices for it, but I'm
going to go Kenny Omega justbecause she picked Okada.
And for the women's, that'swhat you're going to say for
that one yeah, I said it.
On that, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And next on the card is that should be well.
It should be one of the matchesof the night.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I think it will be.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's hard to say because there's 11 matches on
here, but that could easily wellbe a match of the night.
Oh yeah, those are two greatperformances, if not one of the
matches of the year because themtwo guys get in.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They always have one Like a wrestling period or just
an AEW.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
A wrestling period.
Yeah yeah, that's all.
That's it, now, that's it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But the next on the card is the Women's Cas casino
gauntlet match for AEW Women'sWorld Championship match.
And this one, I mean the men'scasino gauntlet.
I was not certain, but Ithought it was going to be
Ricochet.
I mean, I think it's going tobe Ricochet, but for this one I
just really don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I mean like I'm going to tell you right now who's
going to win it.
Oh yeah, you said I've beensaying it for how long, athena?
How long have I been sayingthat?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I might want to say Athena, just so like, because I
just don't know who's going towin.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I've been saying Athena since I realized she did
what she was and getting aone-on-one match.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
If not Athena, I don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Because I said, ever since I saw she wasn't getting a
one-on-one match at All In.
I mean she's a ring on a femalewomen's world champion.
Yeah, why is she not wrestlingin a one-on-one match in her
hometown?
I mean, you got nine matches.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You could have made it 10 even, and then just put
her in there.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't know what you're here to wrestle with,
though.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Even if it was a throwaway.
You could put her in anybody.
It could have been a throwawaymatch where she just goes in and
beat them down and wins, orthere and beat them down and win
, or it could have been a dragout fight like the other women's
match is going to be.
I mean, wrestling is the onlyone women's match out here
Besides the women's match.
Oh yeah, you got 13 matches andonly two women's matches.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Dang, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Exactly so you could easily have Athena wrestle I
guess anybody in AEW Ring ofHonor independent wrestling.
You had multiple options onthat.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But like.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But with her being in the Battle Royal, I'm going to
pick her for the Kusuma BattleRoyal to win that and get a
title shot.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I might have to pick Athena.
But I don't want to steal yourpick, but I just don't know
who's going to win.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean you got Chris Statlander in there, you got
Megan Bain, probably Todd, Conteand I mean you got Chris
Statlander in there, you gotMegan Bain, probably Todd.
Conte and you know all of them,so it's going to be a lot of
women in that match, Some fromAEW.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Is Willow Nightingale , you think.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
She'll probably be in there.
Either that or she'll be in thehave Something To Do With the
Gentleman Oxy match.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, she probably will, but you think she's
going'll be in the House ofDutra-Germosy match.
Yeah, she probably will.
But you think she's going to bein this.
She should, because if she does, I don't want to pick somebody
who's just completely not goingto be in the match.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You don't know who's going to be in the match.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It's a problem, because if I pick someone who's
just not in the match, I have a0% chance of winning you have 0%
chance anyway, because shedon't know who's going to be in
the match.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Anyways, it could be anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I mean right now, I mean I mean, I really don't want
to steal your pick that's fineso.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I mean, I don't know who else I stole yours for
Ricochet, so it's fine yeah, I'mgoing to say Athena for that
one too, because I just don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I think it's either Athena or Will and Nightingale,
and I don't even know if Willand Nightingale is going to be
in the match yeah, sometimes shewon't be in that match.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'm sure she'll have something to do with the John
Mossley match, but if she won'tbe in this match, I have no idea
either and for the next matchon the card.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You remember that yeah, that's it.
Next match on the card isswerve trickling and will osprey
versus the young bucks.
And if osprey and swerve lose,they can't challenge for um a
world title, which I don't seehappening.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But I'll get into that in a second well, osprey
could easily challenge for atitle, but he can't.
For a whole year.
It's a whole.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's a whole year and if the young bucks lose, they
lose their um status as the evpswhich is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, I mean they have to be regular wrestlers.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
They won't have any any forward and say so already
and that means that swerve andosprey right are the EVPs.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I don't know if that's just me.
I don't know.
That's what it sounded like atfirst, but then they haven't
really talked about that much.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
They first said the EVPs will be Swerve and Ospreay,
and then they haven't talkedabout that, since that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Then next thing you know, you have the Will, ospreay
and Swerve not challenging fora title for a year.
Swerve not challenging for atitle for a year.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So maybe they changed that out.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I can't remember for sure, but like.
So I really don't see Swerveand Ospreay not challenging for
an entire year.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
They could, because I mean Cody.
When Cody was in AEW, he didthe same thing for the TNT
championship or it was alreadythe world championship.
He lost and couldn't challengehim.
That's why he went for a TNTchampionship.
He couldn't hear, he lost thematch.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But I don't see Swerve or Ospreay goingprey, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It happened with Cody when Cody I think it was, it
might have been MJF, I guess Ican't remember exactly.
It might have been MJF, that'show it sounds.
Like he lost a match andcouldn't challenge for that
title as long as that person hadthe belt.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
MJF had the belt.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think I want to say MJF, it might have been.
Somebody else had it, and so hewent to the TNT championship
instead.
So what do you got?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I have Swerve and Will Ospreay.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Because I just don't see the Young Bucks winning.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
They can cheat though .
Yeah, they can cheat and win,which is their loophole, though
aw world championship.
Isn't that about tnt, thenabout unified yeah?
That's enough about tag team.
You can go out to any otherbill except for the world, the
one moxie has I, I just don'tsee it all right, it's happened
(15:30):
before and it went to otherbelts yeah but yeah, it's hard
especially when it's two peopleand looks like I mean like
there's mean guys in the companyyeah, I don't.
It's hard to, it's hard to say.
I see moxley and I'm obviously,uh, swerve and osprey losing to
the young bucks.
I'm, I don't want to agree withyou on this one again, but yeah
, I'm gonna go.
(15:50):
I'm gonna go osprey and swerveto win this one too as well,
just because I don't see them,like you said, not challenging
for the belt for a year, butthey can because there's other
belts on the line and it's kindof.
I think a lot of people aretired of the young boats.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Not tired of wrestling, but tired of them
being EVPs.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, like their characters get in a little too
much.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But not that part, but just them pushing their
weight around.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Like doing stuff they can because they're EVPs, like
if they lose that title theyhave to be regular wrestlers.
Now they don't have any pullanymore to do what they want to
do.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like they can't just make a match in two seconds
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
They can't just make a match or add stipulations or
not, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Or just insert themselves and attack them.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
They can't just do that.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So if they lose that AVP right, it'll be back to
being regular wrestlers, whichwill help out their character
building even more so becausethey have the other thing not
having control anymore andthat's what you're going to say
and the next you fixed Swerveand Ospreay and for the next
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match on the card it's Adam Coleversus Kyle Fletcher for the
TNT Championship or AEW TNTChampionship, and for this one I
feel like it could go eitherway, but the Don Callis family,
like you said earlier, needs alittle bit of a push.
So I'm saying Kyle Fletcher.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Not to talk bad about Adam Cole, but I feel like he
had the TNT Championship.
Yeah, me too.
I feel like he had it forNTChampionship.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I forgot he had it for a minute until we were
talking about getting ready todo this.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I thought he lost to somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's what I'm saying.
I forgot he even had it,because I remember last show we
were talking about I was talkingabout me I said Adam Cole, he's
a winner.
Because he hadn't won in awhile, I didn't realize he had
the title.
I mean not saying that hedoesn't deserve it because he's
a great wrestler, but it doesn'tsay they've done much with him,
like yeah, I haven't even seenthe title in a long time.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Don't say they've been doing much with him, though
, so for that case I think he'lldo better chasing the title
Mm-hmm, Kyle Fletcher win it andhaving Adam Cole chase after it
would be a better option, Ithink, than him holding on to it
right now.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
At least for right now.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
anyways, that would give Kyle's family a good bit of
good momentum going forward forright now.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
They definitely need it.
So you say Kyle Fletcher.
I think, Kyle Fletcher winningthat.
I'd said Kyle Fletcher.
I think Kyle Fletcher won that.
I said Kyle Fletcher too.
And so the next match on thecard it's a three-way tag team
match for the AEW World Tag TeamChampionships, and it's the
Hertz Syndicate versus Jet Speed, versus the Patriarchy.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, that's Christian Cage and Nick Wayne.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So for this one I really want to say the Hurst
Syndicate, because I really likethe Hurst Syndicate.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's a triple threat match though.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You don't have to pin them to win.
So Christian Cage can pinsomebody from Jet Stream.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Or was it Jet Speed, jet sorry, just be like, hold on
, like I feel like there'salways just like that thing.
When, like the champions getlike beat down before their
title match, they always winyeah, exactly, but but I don't
know if that's the case, becauseit's a big show.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Anything can happen that's what I'm saying.
And then, like I said, it's abig show, anything can happen.
That's what I'm saying.
And then, like I said, it's atriple threat match, so anybody
can pin anybody.
So Jetspeed can pin thePatriarchy and Hurston can lose,
or vice versa Hurston can lose.
Hurston does not have to beinvolved in the finale to lose
their titles, yeah, which is whythey could easily lose the
match.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So who do you got winning on this one?
I want to say Hurston and Kidd,but I feel like Jetsby is going
to win.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, I'm going to go with the eyeball here, I'm
going to go with the Patriarchy,because Christian Cage has been
doing some.
Like I said earlier, christianCage and Nick Wayne and Mama
Wayne, they've been doing somegood heel work.
You know, then, the whole thingbetween Nick Wayne and
(20:01):
Christian Cage kind of goingback and forth for a minute.
Is he going to turn, is he notgoing to turn, type of thing too
.
So, yeah, I got the patriarchywinning this, probably Mama
Wayne or somebody helping out.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm going to go with the heart syndicate to retain.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's a good one too .
I just don't think they'regoing to be involved in the win.
I think the patriarchy is goingto pin Chet's feet.
I think you know.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So, and that's what you're going to say- that's it
for that.
All right, and for the nextmatch on the card, it's the Ops,
which consists of Shobata,powerhouse Hobbs and Samoa Joe
versus the Death Riders, whichis Claudio Castanoli and Willa
(20:51):
Uter and Gabe Kidd, which I'mnot very familiar with.
Gabe Kidd, he's a big time I'veseen him before.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
He's a big time independent, or was independent.
Right, he's an AW now, but hewas a big time.
He's like the hottest freeagent, as they call it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But he was literally the hottest free agent in
wrestling period and he went toAW, which I think that fits more
of his style.
Anyways, for right now, anyways, he could, he could, you know,
change and work his way into it,kind of like, um, I was gonna
say, uh, mirame, uh, what's hername?
blake blake monroe, yeah, blakemonroe I'll say mirame, like
(21:31):
like she did.
She came to aw.
Aw was her before she.
She got there, she grew thereand now she, then she, now she's
in WWE.
I think Gabe Kidd can dosomething similar.
He comes to AEW, learns to ropefrom veterans like Mox and
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Claudio and guys like that, andhe can use that to use it to go
to NXT, just like Blake Monroedid.
She hit Thomas, toney, thunder,rosa, all the veterans that she
was feuding with, you know,mina, jura, cara, all the people
like that and then she usedthat to get herself better at it
and eventually went to NXT.
And I think KK can do the samething.
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He's actually a pretty goodwrestler.
I mean, he's actually a prettygood wrestler.
I think people he I mean he's a, he's a sometimes people don't
like him, but kept nicewrestling skills yeah you know
he's like the aw version oflogan paul.
You know I mean people justdon't like them it's that bad
not as bad cause.
Logan paul had a reputationbefore yeah wrestling, but
(22:35):
people didn't like them beforethey got kids.
It's just you know.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's just a wrestling character.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
People just really hate Logan Ball People really
hate him.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, but um, I don't , I don't, I don't want to see
the deaf writers hold any titlesfor a time.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Nah, I don't either.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Like, like, I think, I think the run is just over.
I think it's just done.
Yeah, and the opposite of thechampions, right?
Yeah, I think it's.
I don't want to see adifference.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Unless unless Pat comes back.
You know he's been out he's, Imean like all this stuff could
happen, but I just me personallyI don't want to see the
Deathriders hold a championshipand then if nobody interferes
with Maureen Shafir, thenJeffries is going to win, unless
Willow comes out or somebodyelse comes out and helps the Ops
(23:28):
out.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
The Ops are in trouble but like think about
this team though like Samoa Joeand Powerhouse Hobbs alone, and
then you add Shibata right therebut then Deathrise are a world
old machine though, so you addthem together, you know yeah,
but I'm going to say the Ops 2routine yeah, I don't want to
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see Deathrise have another title, especially with Jon Moxley
having the world title right now.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But, like I said, unless Willow or somebody
interferes in that match, theops have nobody to really stop
her yeah you know, I can'tremember if a trio match is
disqualification or not, thoughI can't remember it is, I can't
remember if a trio match isdisqualification or not, though
I can't remember it is.
I can't remember if it's noqualification or not.
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, I can't remember, though, how the AEW
rules are, but I like PowerhouseHouse.
He's one of my favorites inwrestling period Same.
So I don't want to see him lose.
Yeah, I'm going to go withPowerhouse Oz.
I want to see him get another,win, another title and get a
title and, you know, hold on toit and actually be able to
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defend it, and all that.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Mm-hmm, because when was the last time he had a title
?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Did he ever have a title in the AEW?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
He had the world title once, didn't he like?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
He had a world title Was that?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
him or Warlord that had that thing.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Neither one of them won a world or didn't win a
world title.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh, but I remember I think it was either Powerhouse
Hobbs or Warlord that had thelittle golden thing.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Like one of the big briefcase.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, the golden ring .
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, the golden ring or the brass ring, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's the brass ring.
You should tell wrestlers reachfor the brass ring.
Yeah, it's the brass ring.
You should tell wrestlers reachfor the brass ring.
So AEW took that and kind ofmade it Not a joke, but they
made a match out of it.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Mm-hmm, it's a letter match too right.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, reaching for the brass ring.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's what I'm going to say,
yeah yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think that's.
It's hard for me to go againstPowerhouse Hobbs because he's
one of my favorites, but yeah,I'm going to go with Powerhouse
Hobbs and the Hobbs to winagainst Claudio and Death Riders
alright, and for the co-mainevent, it's Timeless Tony Stone
versus Mercedes Monet for theAEW Women's World Championship,
(26:01):
which is another match thatcould easily be match of the
night.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, easily.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But these two veterans, I mean two of the best
women in wrestling period,whether it's AEW, wwe, ring of
Honor, whatever name you want tocall, you can't put really a
top five.
I'd say top ten is the absoluteworst.
You can't put top ten wrestlers, or I'll say, top ten at the
absolute worst.
You can't put a top ten ofwrestlers right now without
these two in there.
I mean Mercedes has all thebelts.
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Thomas Toney's doing her bestwork.
She's probably the best female,if not the best character
period in wrestling going rightnow I completely forgot
something you just brought backto me.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, like Mercedes , I love Mercedes, but seven
belts though.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
She's the belt collector, Like Tony Storm said,
if you watch the Dynamite shesaid you deserve all the belts,
but you're not getting this one.
Basically, yeah.
You're not going to win thisone from me, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I'm going to say I don't see Timeless Tony Storm
retaining.
Uh, I don't see timeless 20storm retaining, but I don't see
Mercedes winning gotta pick onethough my back is against the
wall here.
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna saytimeless, no, no, mercedes,
mercedes.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I was gonna pick Thomas.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Anyways, a lot unless you picked her like.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
No, no, mercedes, Mercedes.
You're going Mercedes with me?
Yeah, mercedes, but you'regoing to say I was going to pick
Thomas anyways a lot.
Unless you picked her quick,thomas Toney, I think, is going
to win, or that's who I think isgoing to win anyways.
Like I said, she's been doingher best work recently with the
whole Thomas character.
I mean she's been doing herbest work.
Then she's the whole fake thingwith Mariah May, where she acts
like she's back to the old ToniStorm.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, and she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And then she's back to timeless, and that's how I
said it.
That timeless character isprobably one of the best
characters going by far in prowrestling.
I mean Blake Monroe's charactereven came but she hadn't even
started yet, she hadn't matchedyet, but she hasn't had a match
yet.
Her first match was JordanGrace oh Tag team match.
(28:02):
But yeah, I mean, so you can'teven.
There's nobody.
I can't even think aboutanybody who has a better
character than Thomas Tony rightnow in any professional
wrestling really.
I mean, I don't watch all ofthem, obviously, but the ones I
have watched.
I don't see anybody else evencoming close to what she's been
doing these last couple yearswith that Thomas character.
(28:24):
So I'm going to go with ThomasTony to retain and keep the belt
moving, because Mercedes is ateam.
She's a TBS champion already.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, she is.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So she's already the women's TBS champion in awc, the
world championships.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I'm on top of that um and well, my prediction a
couple months ago.
I'm completely wrong.
Actually, I think I'm morewrong than right, like I'm way
more wrong and wrong than right.
I I said that mercedes wasgonna lose all her belts and
then and then lose in this matchshe had lost no belts.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, she got a couple belts.
I think, she's won one or twobelts since she said that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I thought the route was going to be she was going to
lose all her belts and then winthis, so she could just have
one big belt instead of sevenlittle small belts Not like
saying small belts yeah, smallerorganizations, smaller
companies.
Yeah, but that's all you'regoing to say for that one.
Yeah, tell me about Tony.
Yeah, I said, I said there'snot much I can say about Tony
(29:24):
Storm I mean really.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Mm-hmm, you watch her work, you know what she does.
I mean, she's one of the bestcharacters, the best you know.
Like her perfect in AEW.
Yeah, because they were able todo let their personality go.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And both of those people had like, like, probably
like the worst characters in WWE.
Ricochet didn't even have acharacter, he was just the guy
who could do flips.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Exactly so.
Now he has a personality andthey go along with it now.
Yeah so yeah, Um yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So, yeah, that's what you're going to say that's it
and for the main event is JohnMoxie versus Hangman on a Page
in a Texas death match for theAW Man's World Championship and
this one.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I don't think I've ever seen a Texas death match.
Right, you've seen it before.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I have, yeah, texas Deathmatch right, I have, wasn't
it Hangman, and John Moxley too?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Or Swerve.
It might have been Moxley andHangman.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I feel like those are like the.
It was either them or it wasSwerve and Hangman Page.
I feel like those are the besttwo people, because Moxley's
extreme and it's gonna be a lotof goriness in it.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
If you don't—if you got a weak stomach don't even
watch it, because it's going tobe a lot of stuff going on in
this match.
I mean, it's probably going tobe thumbtacks, probably be some
skewers.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
The stuff you put the vegetables, the stuff you put
on the grill.
Yeah, what is that?
The stuff you put thevegetables, the stuff you put on
the grill no they put them outof the ashtray at all, then they
did.
John Monsi got his head speared.
Had a whole head full of themsitting on top of his head stuck
in his head.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I'm not sure I want to watch this wait a minute
wasn't that Penta that that didthat I?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
think it was yeah, because the little sticks thing.
It is, yeah.
So like it was like in his headtoo.
That's what I'm saying.
It's going to be like thatagain, probably it's going to be
like that again, and he wasbald, so like it's it's.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But like these are the best two people to do a
Texas Deathmatch how?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
far.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
John, not John Cena.
John Moxley is like an extremeguy and Hangman and the PH is a
cowboy character.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And he wants the title.
By any means.
Yeah, hangman, does he can't?
He wants that title.
I mean, look what he did toSwerve Mm-hmm.
And that wasn't even for thetitle.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
That was.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So imagine what he can do.
Imagine what he wants to do toJon Moxley for the title.
Yeah, who do you got winningthat?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I got Ian Rand.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I don't want to see Jon Moxley's ring going I know I
mean Jon Moxley needs to losebecause he needs to find
something else.
He needs to find something, areason to keep doing what he's
doing.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Right.
So I don't want to agree withyou again.
But yeah, I got Adam Page aswell to give Mox a reset on what
he's doing so that we can getrefocused on everything, Just
like the Death Riders would berefocused on everything Go back
to the drawing board and try tofigure out what to do next.
So I got them winning on thisone.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised I got Heyman winning.
I'm surprised Marina Shafirdoesn't have a match right here.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
She might be in the Battle Royal Casino.
Battle Royal.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Oh, yeah, yeah, right the.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Gauntlet, rather Mm-hmm, the Casino Gauntlet
Battle Royal.
She might be in that.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
But yeah, mm-hmm, I feel like, hey man, the page has
this.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh, yeah, for sure, I think so, anyways, but Anything
else you want to add To thiscard.
It's a pretty stacked card.
It's 13 matches, 11 or 13, 11matches, 11 matches.
Yeah, 9 on the main card, atleast 2 on the pre-show, and I
mean AEW's been putting on Somegood matches too, and these are,
like I said, you got at leasttwo candidates for match of the
year.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You think it's going to go for four hours.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
At least four hours.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think it's going to go for five.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, at least four hours.
So it starts at 3, 3 Eastern orfurther, which is what 1
o'clock in Texas.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It is.
It's going to be like two orthree hours behind.
It's pretty early.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, it's either 12 or 1 there, because they're
either two or three hours behindthe camera off the top of their
head, but they're two or threehours behind.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We're going to have to watch it super early, we're
going to have to wake up earlyand stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, just watch it early.
Yeah, pretty much, becauseit'll come on pretty much.
You got you have NXT come on atnoon.
It's Eastern time, so NXT comeson at noon, it's Eastern Time,
so, and it's, he comes on a noeasier time.
So NXT's gonna know and if hecomes on a, no, she's only like
two, two and a half hours, nomore than three yeah so how was
(34:09):
NXT can be longer than a.
Wwe, because this is the main,isn't?
It's a?
It's regular TV.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I like Saturday's main event, but I hate the
concert because I saw a regularTV.
It's not.
Yeah, it's regular TV.
I like Saturday Night's MainEvent, but I hate the concert
it's on regular TV so it'sadvertisement during a PLE, is
it?
Even a PLE at this point it is,it's still a premium.
It's like a glorified houseshow, because nothing relevant
happens except for Kevin Owens,except for Kevin Owens yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I mean RT that Because, like the most I mean
yeah, rt Shoof came back at thelast one and attacked John Cena.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
That was money in the bank.
That was money in the bank.
He just had a match with JohnCena.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
He had a match with John Cena Right.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The most relevant thing that's happened is Bronson
Reed returning.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, or like joining joining St.
Ron's, it's a pretty big dealthough.
Yeah, it really is.
Nxt comes on at 12 Eastern time.
That goes on two to three hours.
Maybe they say it takes threehours tops.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So 12, that goes on at four.
Aew comes on at three.
I think the pre-show comes onat 12, same time NXT does so by
the time the main show comes onat 3, you'll miss an hour of AEW
.
Watch AEW.
If it comes on at 3, it's 4 or5 hours, which means it goes off
at 7, 6 or 7 at night, thenboom, main event comes on at 8
(35:32):
o'clock.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
That actually works kind of perfect.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, so the only thing you're missing is probably
an hour of AEW, so whateveropening match is for AEW, you're
gonna probably miss that.
I'll probably watch AEW, that'sgonna be over, the main event
for a bash which is probablygonna be over, and I can't think
of the Japanese guy from NOAH,professor NOAH yeah, damn, I
(35:56):
knew his name.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
He's with Briggsiggs.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
He's with Briggs, but anyway, yeah, that's going to
probably be the main event orthe contract signing between
Trick Williams.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And Mike Santana.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Mike Santana and Joe Hendry.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, it's a triple threat, it's a triple threat.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It's a slumberversary for TNA.
It's a slumberversary.
It's their biggest event event.
It is well, summerversary andbound for glory are their two
biggest events yeah I can'tremember which one is the
biggest, but bound for glory andsummerversary are their two
biggest events because likeslimmerversary I thought it was
like.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I thought it was like summer slim, but like bigger
it's their anniversary date,it's like.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's like what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
it's like.
It's like their first broadcastFirst broadcast episode.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
It was like that first review.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I think so it's like the anniversary basically.
So like All In, but it's notlike All In wasn't on the same
date.
No, it's like Double or Nothingyeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's like Double or Nothing.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Oh All.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
In is the big one.
Double or Nothing is like theother one.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Oh, I thought All In was their first show.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I think it.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Because I remember seeing like house show looking
footage of Ricky Saints and well, ricky Starks at the time
versus Cody Rose.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, it was a good match yeah, yeah.
But yeah, so it should be agood weekend.
Then Sunday you turn around andyou got Evolution.
So, yeah, this is a goodweekend for any fans of pro
wrestling.
Yeah, like I said, you got fourevents you can watch this
weekend, so you, you definitelynot gonna get tired of wrestling
this weekend.
I mean you gotta have more thanwhat you need to get your fix in
(37:26):
and enjoy yourself and, youknow, spend time with people who
like wrestling with you.
Plus, then you got uh, my TKO.
You got a UFC event going onSaturday night as well.
If you want to watch that whilemain event is on.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
TKO has a lot to do, or by the time main event goes
off.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I'm not sure what time the UFC event comes on, but
they're throwing twoback-to-back ones which boom.
Now you got UFC mixed in withit too.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
So it's two entire shows or just two matches.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
UFC.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's an entire pay-per-view.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's not a better view, it's a.
It's a fight night which is tobe on ESPN.
So you got ESPN, t-hail gotESPN and you got NBC.
They got two channels booked up.
So but yeah anything else youwant to add to it before we sign
off nope alright, so I'm Ben.
I'm Bash another episode of.
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Ben.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm Bash.
I tell them to lift up yourboots and hit them out with the
Ben and Bash Podcast Tag TeamTalk.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, here we are for another one.
This time we are going to bedoing AW.
All In, it is that card.
Was it 11 matches on the card?
Yeah, it was the pre-show.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, two pre-show matches Was it.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
11 matches on the card yeah, if you have the
pre-show.
Yeah, two pre-show matches,nine main card matches, at least
four hours.
It's going to be a good weekendof wrestling right here.
Let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The pre-show is FTR versus the Outrunners.
For this one I'll probably sayI don't know, honestly, but I
would probably say I mean FDRhas been beating down the
Outrunners recently.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So they might, I don't know.
I feel like the Outrunners needthis because they've been
getting beat down by FTRrecently.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, but FTR is FTR.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Still one of the best tag teams in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I'm going to go with FTR.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, I'm going to have to go FTR too on that one.
I just don't see the Outrunnersbeating them.
I mean they can, but I justdon't see the FTR losing right
now.
I just don't see them losingright now.
But I don't know why they gothim on the pre-show.
That's a stacked card for FTRto be on the pre-show, yeah, but
yeah, FTR for the first one forthe pre-show.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
In the second match on the pre-show, it's Big Boom
AJ, the conglomeration uh versusthe don callas family and eight
man tag team match, and forthis one it's probably gonna be
a good match.
Um, I mean, I don't really knowthat much about big boom aj.
I mean I know he's on youtubeand stuff, but I don't really
(01:59):
know about his wrestling.
So I mean, I know about aboutalmost everybody else in this
match, but I would probably haveto say Big Boom AJ and the
Clubglomeration no, honestly, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I would probably say Big Boom AJ's team.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, I mean that's a hard one, because you said Big
AJ.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, big Boom AJ, big Boom AJ.
That's what I think his name isanyways.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's the wrestler and all them guys.
Yeah, your favorite guy.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
What?
I don't even know them likethat, no brain ways.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
But yeah, so big boom , aj.
Or or Don Callis, don't call usfrom these a win, really yeah,
they've been a huge slump,except for Kyle Fletcher yeah
yeah, he's the one had me on meon the slot.
Really, yeah, I'm going to gowith Don Cowell's family to win
this one.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I mean, they do need it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
They need to win way more in order to get back on
track with what they're doing.
So, yeah, I'm going to go withDon Cowell's family.
Because I feel like every weekyeah so I'm going to go with Don
Counts Family on that one.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Alright, and I learned about this one a little
bit more earlier.
It's the Men's Casino GauntletMatch for AEW World Championship
match, and this one I mean.
If you want to explain it, youcan.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's just a gauntlet match where it doesn't matter.
I think it's 21 people, I think2021 people, something like
that in there and basically thewinner is whoever gets pinfall
or submission first.
So it can be the first two guys, it can be number 20, it can be
who in the match.
(03:59):
As soon as the matches ends,you know you might have 21
people scheduled to be in thematch.
The match can answer fivepeople.
Whoever gets the first pinfallmatch is over with.
So it's you might have 21people scheduled to be in the
match.
The match can end to fivepeople.
Whoever gets the first man fallmatch is over with.
So it's one of the matches whereyou want to be one of the first
ones in.
It's not like a normal BattleRoyal or Warrior Rumble in
WWE-wise where you come in alittle later and you got a
better chance of winning becauseyou're not in the match for a
whole hour.
But this one you kind of wantto be one of the first guys to
(04:21):
get opportunity to pin or submitsomebody before everybody else
comes in.
And this one's kind ofdifferent too because they come
in at interval times, so theirdifferent times are not always
like a set period, like RoyalRumbles are, or other kind of
battle royals like that, wherethey come in at a certain set
time.
This one's random, so it couldbe 30 seconds, could be 3
minutes, could be 5 minutes,whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But yeah, seconds could be three minutes, could be
five minutes, whatever, but butyeah so, but yeah.
So, as far as I know, markbriscoe and mjf are the first
two.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, and someone else right, or I think they're
the first two far so I know.
I'm not sure if anybody else, Idon't ever.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I think they're the first two though so this one I
was gonna say mjf because Idon't really know who's going to
be in there, but honestly, I'mgoing to go with Ricochet.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
She said that I was thinking about Ricochet at first
, but now she said it Because Iwas just processing this,
because it was so unpredictable.
I saw Dynamite this past weekand I thought Ricochet was going
to win.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, ricochet does.
I think Ricochet was going towin.
Yeah, ricochet does.
I think Ricochet wants a worldtitle shot, which I like him to
have one.
He's been doing some great workin AEW AEW's letting him use
his personality that WWE neverlet him do, so he's able to use
his real personality.
I think it's real personality.
He's good at it.
Some of it's part of hispersonality so he's able to it.
(05:43):
So I'm assuming it's part ofwhat, some of it's part of what
he his personality, so he's ableto do that.
And you know Ricochet is a goodone man, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I mean, I just didn't know if anybody else except
Mark Briscoe MJF.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I mean it could be anybody, cause it's a battle
royale 21 guys.
So I could give it yeah, rico,21 guys.
Ricochet, I'm going to go withyou on that one.
I'm just going to say Ricocheton that one too, just to put it
out there in the air and sayRicochet's going to win Casino
Man's Battle Royal.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And the next match.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's what you're going to say yeah, that's it on
that one.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And the next match on the card is Kajuk.
I cannot pronounce his name.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okada.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, okada.
Versus Client Nanto championpronounce his name Okada.
Yeah, okada.
Versus a continental champion,versus Kenny Omega, who's the
international champion.
Is it called the UnifiedChampionship?
That's kind of a bland name.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I mean that's what it is.
I mean that's what we got todeal with.
It's the AEW UnifiedChampionship.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, that's kind of a bland name.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's like their second world title pretty much.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I mean like I know they can't do it, but
Intercontinental is right there.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
No, because that International I know what you're
saying but they, they want thisto be more like the second
world title it is.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's what they want it to be the unified champion.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Aew unified champion.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, it's like mid-card for Ms Margaret
mid-card like universalundisputed champion AEW.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
They want that to be Like the second, like you got
the World.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Champion.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
AEW World Champion, and now you also have the AEW
Unified Champion, which soundslike A World Champion.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
The mid-card Plus the mid-card Does equal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Maybe that's what I'm saying.
So they wanted to Make thatinto one Big belt, a bigger belt
.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The belt kind of Looks, weird, though it looks
like Looks like an egg.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, instead of having three what you call
mid-card, international,continental, and then the TNT.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You just have one TNT champion and then boom, those
are going to create one biggerchampionship.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, that makes more sense anyways, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And then Kenny Omega and Okada are two guys that
could easily hold that belt andmake it mean something to
whoever wins that match.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Okada.
How long has he beenContinental Champion?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
For a long time.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And he's like, barely like a lot.
Has he ever lost in ContinentalClassic?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I don't think so.
If he did, he would lose hisbelt.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, I don't think he ever did, unless he lost the
first one he was, in which Ican't remember if he did that or
not.
He might have won the first one.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's what I was thinking, but I can't remember.
Well, the first one he was inat least that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
The first one he was in, but anyways.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I mean, okada's just been on such a streak and Kenny
Omega finally has backup.
But like I don't know, I feellike Kenny Omega would win this
match, but I mean it's Okada, soyou'd never know.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, exactly, it's Okada, so you'd never know which
is a problem.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I'm going to go?
No, I'm going to go Okada.
No, I don't know.
Honestly, I'm going to go Okada.
You're going to go Okada?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
no, I don't know, honestly, I'm going to go Okada
you can't get wrong with eitherone of these guys, man.
These two guys are two of thebest in the world, actually hold
on, I'm going to do everythingmy choice, actually.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, I'm going to stick with Okada.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okada is a good one too.
That is a good one too.
That is a good one.
I don't want to pick the sameone you picked again, so I'm
going to go with Kenny Omega.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I mean either one of them.
That's what I'm saying Eitherone is a great pick.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You can't go wrong with either one.
I mean, both of them areguaranteed to hold that belt to
a higher prestige and make itfeel like a world championship.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, definitely.
Either one of those guys aregreat choices for it, but I'm
going to go Kenny Omega justbecause she picked Okada.
And for the women's, that'swhat you're going to say for
that one yeah, I said it.
On that, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And next on the card is that should be well.
It should be one of the matchesof the night.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I think it will be.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's hard to say because there's 11 matches on
here, but that could easily wellbe a match of the night.
Oh yeah, those are two greatperformances, if not one of the
matches of the year because themtwo guys get in.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
They always have one Like a wrestling period or just
an AEW.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
A wrestling period.
Yeah yeah, that's all.
That's it, now, that's it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But the next on the card is the Women's Cas casino
gauntlet match for AEW Women'sWorld Championship match.
And this one, I mean the men'scasino gauntlet.
I was not certain, but Ithought it was going to be
Ricochet.
I mean, I think it's going tobe Ricochet, but for this one I
just really don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I mean like I'm going to tell you right now who's
going to win it.
Oh yeah, you said I've beensaying it for how long, athena?
How long have I been sayingthat?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I might want to say Athena, just so like, because I
just don't know who's going towin.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I've been saying Athena since I realized she did
what she was and getting aone-on-one match.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
If not Athena, I don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Because I said, ever since I saw she wasn't getting a
one-on-one match at All In.
I mean she's a ring on a femalewomen's world champion.
Yeah, why is she not wrestlingin a one-on-one match in her
hometown?
I mean, you got nine matches.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You could have made it 10 even, and then just put
her in there.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't know what you're here to wrestle with,
though.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Even if it was a throwaway.
You could put her in anybody.
It could have been a throwawaymatch where she just goes in and
beat them down and wins, orthere and beat them down and win
, or it could have been a dragout fight like the other women's
match is going to be.
I mean, wrestling is the onlyone women's match out here
Besides the women's match.
Oh yeah, you got 13 matches andonly two women's matches.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Dang, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Exactly so you could easily have Athena wrestle I
guess anybody in AEW Ring ofHonor independent wrestling.
You had multiple options onthat.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But like.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
But with her being in the Battle Royal, I'm going to
pick her for the Kusuma BattleRoyal to win that and get a
title shot.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I might have to pick Athena.
But I don't want to steal yourpick, but I just don't know
who's going to win.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean you got Chris Statlander in there, you got
Megan Bain, probably Todd, Conteand I mean you got Chris
Statlander in there, you gotMegan Bain, probably Todd.
Conte and you know all of them,so it's going to be a lot of
women in that match, Some fromAEW.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Is Willow Nightingale , you think.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
She'll probably be in there.
Either that or she'll be in thehave Something To Do With the
Gentleman Oxy match.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, she probably will, but you think she's
going'll be in the House ofDutra-Germosy match.
Yeah, she probably will.
But you think she's going to bein this.
She should, because if she does, I don't want to pick somebody
who's just completely not goingto be in the match.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You don't know who's going to be in the match.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It's a problem, because if I pick someone who's
just not in the match, I have a0% chance of winning you have 0%
chance anyway, because shedon't know who's going to be in
the match.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Anyways, it could be anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I mean right now, I mean I mean, I really don't want
to steal your pick that's fineso.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I mean, I don't know who else I stole yours for
Ricochet, so it's fine yeah, I'mgoing to say Athena for that
one too, because I just don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I think it's either Athena or Will and Nightingale,
and I don't even know if Willand Nightingale is going to be
in the match yeah, sometimes shewon't be in that match.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'm sure she'll have something to do with the John
Mossley match, but if she won'tbe in this match, I have no idea
either and for the next matchon the card.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You remember that yeah, that's it.
Next match on the card isswerve trickling and will osprey
versus the young bucks.
And if osprey and swerve lose,they can't challenge for um a
world title, which I don't seehappening.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But I'll get into that in a second well, osprey
could easily challenge for atitle, but he can't.
For a whole year.
It's a whole.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's a whole year and if the young bucks lose, they
lose their um status as the evpswhich is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, I mean they have to be regular wrestlers.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
They won't have any any forward and say so already
and that means that swerve andosprey right are the EVPs.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I don't know if that's just me.
I don't know.
That's what it sounded like atfirst, but then they haven't
really talked about that much.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
They first said the EVPs will be Swerve and Ospreay,
and then they haven't talkedabout that, since that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Then next thing you know, you have the Will, ospreay
and Swerve not challenging fora title for a year.
Swerve not challenging for atitle for a year.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So maybe they changed that out.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I can't remember for sure, but like.
So I really don't see Swerveand Ospreay not challenging for
an entire year.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
They could, because I mean Cody.
When Cody was in AEW, he didthe same thing for the TNT
championship or it was alreadythe world championship.
He lost and couldn't challengehim.
That's why he went for a TNTchampionship.
He couldn't hear, he lost thematch.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But I don't see Swerve or Ospreay goingprey, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It happened with Cody when Cody I think it was, it
might have been MJF, I guess Ican't remember exactly.
It might have been MJF, that'show it sounds.
Like he lost a match andcouldn't challenge for that
title as long as that person hadthe belt.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
MJF had the belt.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think I want to say MJF, it might have been.
Somebody else had it, and so hewent to the TNT championship
instead.
So what do you got?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I have Swerve and Will Ospreay.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Because I just don't see the Young Bucks winning.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
They can cheat though .
Yeah, they can cheat and win,which is their loophole, though
aw world championship.
Isn't that about tnt, thenabout unified yeah?
That's enough about tag team.
You can go out to any otherbill except for the world, the
one moxie has I, I just don'tsee it all right, it's happened
(15:30):
before and it went to otherbelts yeah but yeah, it's hard
especially when it's two peopleand looks like I mean like
there's mean guys in the companyyeah, I don't.
It's hard to, it's hard to say.
I see moxley and I'm obviously,uh, swerve and osprey losing to
the young bucks.
I'm, I don't want to agree withyou on this one again, but yeah
, I'm gonna go.
(15:50):
I'm gonna go osprey and swerveto win this one too as well,
just because I don't see them,like you said, not challenging
for the belt for a year, butthey can because there's other
belts on the line and it's kindof.
I think a lot of people aretired of the young boats.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Not tired of wrestling, but tired of them
being EVPs.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, like their characters get in a little too
much.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But not that part, but just them pushing their
weight around.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Like doing stuff they can because they're EVPs, like
if they lose that title theyhave to be regular wrestlers.
Now they don't have any pullanymore to do what they want to
do.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like they can't just make a match in two seconds
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
They can't just make a match or add stipulations or
not, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Or just insert themselves and attack them.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
They can't just do that.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So if they lose that AVP right, it'll be back to
being regular wrestlers, whichwill help out their character
building even more so becausethey have the other thing not
having control anymore andthat's what you're going to say
and the next you fixed Swerveand Ospreay and for the next
(16:50):
match on the card it's Adam Coleversus Kyle Fletcher for the
TNT Championship or AEW TNTChampionship, and for this one I
feel like it could go eitherway, but the Don Callis family,
like you said earlier, needs alittle bit of a push.
So I'm saying Kyle Fletcher.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Not to talk bad about Adam Cole, but I feel like he
had the TNT Championship.
Yeah, me too.
I feel like he had it forNTChampionship.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I forgot he had it for a minute until we were
talking about getting ready todo this.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I thought he lost to somebody.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's what I'm saying.
I forgot he even had it,because I remember last show we
were talking about I was talkingabout me I said Adam Cole, he's
a winner.
Because he hadn't won in awhile, I didn't realize he had
the title.
I mean not saying that hedoesn't deserve it because he's
a great wrestler, but it doesn'tsay they've done much with him,
like yeah, I haven't even seenthe title in a long time.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Don't say they've been doing much with him, though
, so for that case I think he'lldo better chasing the title
Mm-hmm, Kyle Fletcher win it andhaving Adam Cole chase after it
would be a better option, Ithink, than him holding on to it
right now.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
At least for right now.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
anyways, that would give Kyle's family a good bit of
good momentum going forward forright now.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
They definitely need it.
So you say Kyle Fletcher.
I think, Kyle Fletcher winningthat.
I'd said Kyle Fletcher.
I think Kyle Fletcher won that.
I said Kyle Fletcher too.
And so the next match on thecard it's a three-way tag team
match for the AEW World Tag TeamChampionships, and it's the
Hertz Syndicate versus Jet Speed, versus the Patriarchy.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, that's Christian Cage and Nick Wayne.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So for this one I really want to say the Hurst
Syndicate, because I really likethe Hurst Syndicate.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's a triple threat match though.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
You don't have to pin them to win.
So Christian Cage can pinsomebody from Jet Stream.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Or was it Jet Speed, jet sorry, just be like, hold on
, like I feel like there'salways just like that thing.
When, like the champions getlike beat down before their
title match, they always winyeah, exactly, but but I don't
know if that's the case, becauseit's a big show.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Anything can happen that's what I'm saying.
And then, like I said, it's abig show, anything can happen.
That's what I'm saying.
And then, like I said, it's atriple threat match, so anybody
can pin anybody.
So Jetspeed can pin thePatriarchy and Hurston can lose,
or vice versa Hurston can lose.
Hurston does not have to beinvolved in the finale to lose
their titles, yeah, which is whythey could easily lose the
match.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So who do you got winning on this one?
I want to say Hurston and Kidd,but I feel like Jetsby is going
to win.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, I'm going to go with the eyeball here, I'm
going to go with the Patriarchy,because Christian Cage has been
doing some.
Like I said earlier, christianCage and Nick Wayne and Mama
Wayne, they've been doing somegood heel work.
You know, then, the whole thingbetween Nick Wayne and
(20:01):
Christian Cage kind of goingback and forth for a minute.
Is he going to turn, is he notgoing to turn, type of thing too
.
So, yeah, I got the patriarchywinning this, probably Mama
Wayne or somebody helping out.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm going to go with the heart syndicate to retain.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's a good one too .
I just don't think they'regoing to be involved in the win.
I think the patriarchy is goingto pin Chet's feet.
I think you know.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So, and that's what you're going to say- that's it
for that.
All right, and for the nextmatch on the card, it's the Ops,
which consists of Shobata,powerhouse Hobbs and Samoa Joe
versus the Death Riders, whichis Claudio Castanoli and Willa
(20:51):
Uter and Gabe Kidd, which I'mnot very familiar with.
Gabe Kidd, he's a big time I'veseen him before.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
He's a big time independent, or was independent.
Right, he's an AW now, but hewas a big time.
He's like the hottest freeagent, as they call it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But he was literally the hottest free agent in
wrestling period and he went toAW, which I think that fits more
of his style.
Anyways, for right now, anyways, he could, he could, you know,
change and work his way into it,kind of like, um, I was gonna
say, uh, mirame, uh, what's hername?
blake blake monroe, yeah, blakemonroe I'll say mirame, like
(21:31):
like she did.
She came to aw.
Aw was her before she.
She got there, she grew thereand now she, then she, now she's
in WWE.
I think Gabe Kidd can dosomething similar.
He comes to AEW, learns to ropefrom veterans like Mox and
(21:51):
Claudio and guys like that, andhe can use that to use it to go
to NXT, just like Blake Monroedid.
She hit Thomas, toney, thunder,rosa, all the veterans that she
was feuding with, you know,mina, jura, cara, all the people
like that and then she usedthat to get herself better at it
and eventually went to NXT.
And I think KK can do the samething.
(22:14):
He's actually a pretty goodwrestler.
I mean, he's actually a prettygood wrestler.
I think people he I mean he's a, he's a sometimes people don't
like him, but kept nicewrestling skills yeah you know
he's like the aw version oflogan paul.
You know I mean people justdon't like them it's that bad
not as bad cause.
Logan paul had a reputationbefore yeah wrestling, but
(22:35):
people didn't like them beforethey got kids.
It's just you know.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's just a wrestling character.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
People just really hate Logan Ball People really
hate him.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, but um, I don't , I don't, I don't want to see
the deaf writers hold any titlesfor a time.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Nah, I don't either.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Like, like, I think, I think the run is just over.
I think it's just done.
Yeah, and the opposite of thechampions, right?
Yeah, I think it's.
I don't want to see adifference.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Unless unless Pat comes back.
You know he's been out he's, Imean like all this stuff could
happen, but I just me personallyI don't want to see the
Deathriders hold a championshipand then if nobody interferes
with Maureen Shafir, thenJeffries is going to win, unless
Willow comes out or somebodyelse comes out and helps the Ops
(23:28):
out.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
The Ops are in trouble but like think about
this team though like Samoa Joeand Powerhouse Hobbs alone, and
then you add Shibata right therebut then Deathrise are a world
old machine though, so you addthem together, you know yeah,
but I'm going to say the Ops 2routine yeah, I don't want to
(23:57):
see Deathrise have another title, especially with Jon Moxley
having the world title right now.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But, like I said, unless Willow or somebody
interferes in that match, theops have nobody to really stop
her yeah you know, I can'tremember if a trio match is
disqualification or not, thoughI can't remember it is, I can't
remember if a trio match isdisqualification or not, though
I can't remember it is.
I can't remember if it's noqualification or not.
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, I can't remember, though, how the AEW
rules are, but I like PowerhouseHouse.
He's one of my favorites inwrestling period Same.
So I don't want to see him lose.
Yeah, I'm going to go withPowerhouse Oz.
I want to see him get another,win, another title and get a
title and, you know, hold on toit and actually be able to
(24:42):
defend it, and all that.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Mm-hmm, because when was the last time he had a title
?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Did he ever have a title in the AEW?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
He had the world title once, didn't he like?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
He had a world title Was that?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
him or Warlord that had that thing.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Neither one of them won a world or didn't win a
world title.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh, but I remember I think it was either Powerhouse
Hobbs or Warlord that had thelittle golden thing.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Like one of the big briefcase.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, the golden ring .
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, the golden ring or the brass ring, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's the brass ring.
You should tell wrestlers reachfor the brass ring.
Yeah, it's the brass ring.
You should tell wrestlers reachfor the brass ring.
So AEW took that and kind ofmade it Not a joke, but they
made a match out of it.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Mm-hmm, it's a letter match too right.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, reaching for the brass ring.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's what I'm going to say,
yeah yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think that's.
It's hard for me to go againstPowerhouse Hobbs because he's
one of my favorites, but yeah,I'm going to go with Powerhouse
Hobbs and the Hobbs to winagainst Claudio and Death Riders
alright, and for the co-mainevent, it's Timeless Tony Stone
versus Mercedes Monet for theAEW Women's World Championship,
(26:01):
which is another match thatcould easily be match of the
night.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, easily.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But these two veterans, I mean two of the best
women in wrestling period,whether it's AEW, wwe, ring of
Honor, whatever name you want tocall, you can't put really a
top five.
I'd say top ten is the absoluteworst.
You can't put top ten wrestlers, or I'll say, top ten at the
absolute worst.
You can't put a top ten ofwrestlers right now without
these two in there.
I mean Mercedes has all thebelts.
(26:26):
Thomas Toney's doing her bestwork.
She's probably the best female,if not the best character
period in wrestling going rightnow I completely forgot
something you just brought backto me.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, like Mercedes , I love Mercedes, but seven
belts though.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
She's the belt collector, Like Tony Storm said,
if you watch the Dynamite shesaid you deserve all the belts,
but you're not getting this one.
Basically, yeah.
You're not going to win thisone from me, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I'm going to say I don't see Timeless Tony Storm
retaining.
Uh, I don't see timeless 20storm retaining, but I don't see
Mercedes winning gotta pick onethough my back is against the
wall here.
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna saytimeless, no, no, mercedes,
mercedes.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I was gonna pick Thomas.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Anyways, a lot unless you picked her like.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
No, no, mercedes, Mercedes.
You're going Mercedes with me?
Yeah, mercedes, but you'regoing to say I was going to pick
Thomas anyways a lot.
Unless you picked her quick,thomas Toney, I think, is going
to win, or that's who I think isgoing to win anyways.
Like I said, she's been doingher best work recently with the
whole Thomas character.
I mean she's been doing herbest work.
Then she's the whole fake thingwith Mariah May, where she acts
like she's back to the old ToniStorm.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, and she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And then she's back to timeless, and that's how I
said it.
That timeless character isprobably one of the best
characters going by far in prowrestling.
I mean Blake Monroe's charactereven came but she hadn't even
started yet, she hadn't matchedyet, but she hasn't had a match
yet.
Her first match was JordanGrace oh Tag team match.
(28:02):
But yeah, I mean, so you can'teven.
There's nobody.
I can't even think aboutanybody who has a better
character than Thomas Tony rightnow in any professional
wrestling really.
I mean, I don't watch all ofthem, obviously, but the ones I
have watched.
I don't see anybody else evencoming close to what she's been
doing these last couple yearswith that Thomas character.
(28:24):
So I'm going to go with ThomasTony to retain and keep the belt
moving, because Mercedes is ateam.
She's a TBS champion already.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, she is.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So she's already the women's TBS champion in awc, the
world championships.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I'm on top of that um and well, my prediction a
couple months ago.
I'm completely wrong.
Actually, I think I'm morewrong than right, like I'm way
more wrong and wrong than right.
I I said that mercedes wasgonna lose all her belts and
then and then lose in this matchshe had lost no belts.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, she got a couple belts.
I think, she's won one or twobelts since she said that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I thought the route was going to be she was going to
lose all her belts and then winthis, so she could just have
one big belt instead of sevenlittle small belts Not like
saying small belts yeah, smallerorganizations, smaller
companies.
Yeah, but that's all you'regoing to say for that one.
Yeah, tell me about Tony.
Yeah, I said, I said there'snot much I can say about Tony
(29:24):
Storm I mean really.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Mm-hmm, you watch her work, you know what she does.
I mean, she's one of the bestcharacters, the best you know.
Like her perfect in AEW.
Yeah, because they were able todo let their personality go.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And both of those people had like, like, probably
like the worst characters in WWE.
Ricochet didn't even have acharacter, he was just the guy
who could do flips.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Exactly so.
Now he has a personality andthey go along with it now.
Yeah so yeah, Um yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So, yeah, that's what you're going to say that's it
and for the main event is JohnMoxie versus Hangman on a Page
in a Texas death match for theAW Man's World Championship and
this one.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I don't think I've ever seen a Texas death match.
Right, you've seen it before.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I have, yeah, texas Deathmatch right, I have, wasn't
it Hangman, and John Moxley too?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Or Swerve.
It might have been Moxley andHangman.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I feel like those are like the.
It was either them or it wasSwerve and Hangman Page.
I feel like those are the besttwo people, because Moxley's
extreme and it's gonna be a lotof goriness in it.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
If you don't—if you got a weak stomach don't even
watch it, because it's going tobe a lot of stuff going on in
this match.
I mean, it's probably going tobe thumbtacks, probably be some
skewers.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
The stuff you put the vegetables, the stuff you put
on the grill.
Yeah, what is that?
The stuff you put thevegetables, the stuff you put on
the grill no they put them outof the ashtray at all, then they
did.
John Monsi got his head speared.
Had a whole head full of themsitting on top of his head stuck
in his head.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I'm not sure I want to watch this wait a minute
wasn't that Penta that that didthat I?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
think it was yeah, because the little sticks thing.
It is, yeah.
So like it was like in his headtoo.
That's what I'm saying.
It's going to be like thatagain, probably it's going to be
like that again, and he wasbald, so like it's it's.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But like these are the best two people to do a
Texas Deathmatch how?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
far.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
John, not John Cena.
John Moxley is like an extremeguy and Hangman and the PH is a
cowboy character.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And he wants the title.
By any means.
Yeah, hangman, does he can't?
He wants that title.
I mean, look what he did toSwerve Mm-hmm.
And that wasn't even for thetitle.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
That was.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So imagine what he can do.
Imagine what he wants to do toJon Moxley for the title.
Yeah, who do you got winningthat?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I got Ian Rand.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I don't want to see Jon Moxley's ring going I know I
mean Jon Moxley needs to losebecause he needs to find
something else.
He needs to find something, areason to keep doing what he's
doing.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Right.
So I don't want to agree withyou again.
But yeah, I got Adam Page aswell to give Mox a reset on what
he's doing so that we can getrefocused on everything, Just
like the Death Riders would berefocused on everything Go back
to the drawing board and try tofigure out what to do next.
So I got them winning on thisone.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised I got Heyman winning.
I'm surprised Marina Shafirdoesn't have a match right here.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
She might be in the Battle Royal Casino.
Battle Royal.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Oh, yeah, yeah, right the.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Gauntlet, rather Mm-hmm, the Casino Gauntlet
Battle Royal.
She might be in that.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
But yeah, mm-hmm, I feel like, hey man, the page has
this.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh, yeah, for sure, I think so, anyways, but Anything
else you want to add To thiscard.
It's a pretty stacked card.
It's 13 matches, 11 or 13, 11matches, 11 matches.
Yeah, 9 on the main card, atleast 2 on the pre-show, and I
mean AEW's been putting on Somegood matches too, and these are,
like I said, you got at leasttwo candidates for match of the
year.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You think it's going to go for four hours.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
At least four hours.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think it's going to go for five.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, at least four hours.
So it starts at 3, 3 Eastern orfurther, which is what 1
o'clock in Texas.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It is.
It's going to be like two orthree hours behind.
It's pretty early.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, it's either 12 or 1 there, because they're
either two or three hours behindthe camera off the top of their
head, but they're two or threehours behind.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We're going to have to watch it super early, we're
going to have to wake up earlyand stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, just watch it early.
Yeah, pretty much, becauseit'll come on pretty much.
You got you have NXT come on atnoon.
It's Eastern time, so NXT comeson at noon, it's Eastern Time,
so, and it's, he comes on a noeasier time.
So NXT's gonna know and if hecomes on a, no, she's only like
two, two and a half hours, nomore than three yeah so how was
(34:09):
NXT can be longer than a.
Wwe, because this is the main,isn't?
It's a?
It's regular TV.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I like Saturday's main event, but I hate the
concert because I saw a regularTV.
It's not.
Yeah, it's regular TV.
I like Saturday Night's MainEvent, but I hate the concert
it's on regular TV so it'sadvertisement during a PLE, is
it?
Even a PLE at this point it is,it's still a premium.
It's like a glorified houseshow, because nothing relevant
happens except for Kevin Owens,except for Kevin Owens yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I mean RT that Because, like the most I mean
yeah, rt Shoof came back at thelast one and attacked John Cena.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
That was money in the bank.
That was money in the bank.
He just had a match with JohnCena.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
He had a match with John Cena Right.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The most relevant thing that's happened is Bronson
Reed returning.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, or like joining joining St.
Ron's, it's a pretty big dealthough.
Yeah, it really is.
Nxt comes on at 12 Eastern time.
That goes on two to three hours.
Maybe they say it takes threehours tops.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So 12, that goes on at four.
Aew comes on at three.
I think the pre-show comes onat 12, same time NXT does so by
the time the main show comes onat 3, you'll miss an hour of AEW
.
Watch AEW.
If it comes on at 3, it's 4 or5 hours, which means it goes off
at 7, 6 or 7 at night, thenboom, main event comes on at 8
(35:32):
o'clock.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
That actually works kind of perfect.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, so the only thing you're missing is probably
an hour of AEW, so whateveropening match is for AEW, you're
gonna probably miss that.
I'll probably watch AEW, that'sgonna be over, the main event
for a bash which is probablygonna be over, and I can't think
of the Japanese guy from NOAH,professor NOAH yeah, damn, I
(35:56):
knew his name.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
He's with Briggsiggs.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
He's with Briggs, but anyway, yeah, that's going to
probably be the main event orthe contract signing between
Trick Williams.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And Mike Santana.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Mike Santana and Joe Hendry.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Oh, it's a triple threat, it's a triple threat.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It's a slumberversary for TNA.
It's a slumberversary.
It's their biggest event event.
It is well, summerversary andbound for glory are their two
biggest events yeah I can'tremember which one is the
biggest, but bound for glory andsummerversary are their two
biggest events because likeslimmerversary I thought it was
like.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I thought it was like summer slim, but like bigger
it's their anniversary date,it's like.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's like what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
it's like.
It's like their first broadcastFirst broadcast episode.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
It was like that first review.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I think so it's like the anniversary basically.
So like All In, but it's notlike All In wasn't on the same
date.
No, it's like Double or Nothingyeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's like Double or Nothing.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Oh All.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
In is the big one.
Double or Nothing is like theother one.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Oh, I thought All In was their first show.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I think it.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Because I remember seeing like house show looking
footage of Ricky Saints and well, ricky Starks at the time
versus Cody Rose.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, it was a good match yeah, yeah.
But yeah, so it should be agood weekend.
Then Sunday you turn around andyou got Evolution.
So, yeah, this is a goodweekend for any fans of pro
wrestling.
Yeah, like I said, you got fourevents you can watch this
weekend, so you, you definitelynot gonna get tired of wrestling
this weekend.
I mean you gotta have more thanwhat you need to get your fix in
(37:26):
and enjoy yourself and, youknow, spend time with people who
like wrestling with you.
Plus, then you got uh, my TKO.
You got a UFC event going onSaturday night as well.
If you want to watch that whilemain event is on.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
TKO has a lot to do, or by the time main event goes
off.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I'm not sure what time the UFC event comes on, but
they're throwing twoback-to-back ones which boom.
Now you got UFC mixed in withit too.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
So it's two entire shows or just two matches.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
UFC.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's an entire pay-per-view.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's not a better view, it's a.
It's a fight night which is tobe on ESPN.
So you got ESPN, t-hail gotESPN and you got NBC.
They got two channels booked up.
So but yeah anything else youwant to add to it before we sign
off nope alright, so I'm Ben.
I'm Bash another episode of.
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