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July 13, 2025 34 mins

We dive into our predictions for the upcoming WWE Evolution PLE and analyze what could be in store for this all-women's event returning after a seven-year hiatus.

• Championship matches including Jordynne Grace vs Jacy Jane for the NXT Women's Title with implications for a TNA crossover
• No Holds Barred match between Jade Cargill and Naomi with Bianca Belair as special guest referee
• Fatal Four-Way for the Women's Tag Team Championships featuring The Judgment Day, Charlotte/Alexa, Sol Ruca/Zaria, and The Kabuki Warriors
• Women's Battle Royal with potential surprise returns from legends like AJ Lee or Paige
• Trish Stratus challenging Tiffany Stratton for the SmackDown Women's Championship
• Women's Intercontinental Championship Triple Threat between Becky Lynch, Bayley, and Lyra Valkyria
• Main event: Io Sky defending the Women's World Championship against Rhea Ripley

WWE Evolution should become a yearly or bi-yearly event to properly showcase the incredible talent in women's wrestling rather than waiting another seven or eight years for the next one.


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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Bennett Bash Podcast Tag Team
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I'm Ben, I'm Bash.
It's time to lace up your bootsand hit them out with the
Bennett Bash Podcast Tag TeamTalk.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, here we are for another one.
We are going to be doing asecond evolution.
Wwe Evolution has been what?
Eight, seven, eight years sincethe last one.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah.
So I mean all in-depth reviewof you.
I mean you should have more bynow.
I should at least three or fourby now.
I would say every couple yearsI would say do one, don't do one
every year, but I was at leastevery two years.
You should, you should do oneyeah I mean all the women you
got nothing to be.
Uh, retired wrestlers you knowwork with, working with tna, now
working with triple.
I mean you got a bunch ofpeople you can bring up to do

(00:46):
that every couple years to keepit fresh.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I think it's going to become a yearly pay-per-view.
Why don't you think it's goingto be a yearly pay-per-view?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Because there ain't been one yet, it's only the
second one in eight years orseven years.
So they haven't done it.
Think every two years, be onthe safe side.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
It shouldn't be another seven, eight years for
the next one.
Put it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
It shouldn't be another seven, eight years for
the next one.
Yeah, but yeah, we're justgoing to you know, give our
predictions on it, what we thinkis going to happen, storylines
involved and that kind of stuff.
So yeah, let's get to it.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
All Women's Championship and for this one I
mean I would say JC Jane, butMasha Slamovich, I think at
Slamiversary, has a title fortitle match.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I guess whoever wins this.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, but like I don't think they, are they going
to unify the titles?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
No, it's just title for title, basically.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Oh, okay, it's like a double chain.
I don't think that shouldhappen.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's already booked.
Marsha Samovich is fighting towin this next weekend, I think
it is.
So whoever wins this match isgoing to wrestle against Marsha
Samovich.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I don't see JC Jane wrestling Marsha Samovich and I
don't see her winning either.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I mean, I'm going to say Tripp Williams got the TNA
championship, so it would beunreasonable for a TNA wrestler
to get a championship in NXT.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I mean no, jordan Gracie signed to NXT.
I know that I'm saying MarciaSamovich, oh, marcia Samovich,
don't join Gracie's side of NXT.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I'm talking about Marcia Samovich.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
If Trick Williams won , why can't?
A TNA wrestler win an NXTChampionship I don't know it's
not a one-way street.
Supposedly it's supposed to beboth sides.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So yeah, go ahead, Finish up what you were saying.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
But um, so I'm going to say Jordan Grace.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Any reason why?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, I just think her versus Waxer Slamovich has more
rivalry.
I mean, they've alreadywrestled before.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Exactly that's what I'm saying, not to say I want to
see something new.
But Jordan, yeah, I guess youcan put Jordan Grace in there.
But I mean, jc Jane wouldn't bea bad choice either.
But yeah, I guess for someanniversary, yeah, jordan Grace
versus.
I guess that works better, buteither one can win.
You're going, I'm gonna go, I'mgonna go ahead and go with JC

(03:06):
Jane and win this.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So just to I mean she only had time for that long he
can't ever have time for it.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
How long has that worked?
Two months a month.
How?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
long has that been going on the main roster?
Two months since money in thebank was money in the bank March
April.
May.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
May, so two months, about like a couple of days.
Do you have the bill?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Come on now, at least give her a good reign.
Come on now.
She's been working here foryears.
Let her get a nice 100 plus dayreign like everybody else does.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Not 100 plus.
That's WWE, not NXT Let her.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Lose that T-Wave.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I guess, Oscar had it for how long.
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Shayna Baszler had it for how long.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Shayna Baszler in NXT .

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Exactly NXT.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
She had a whole group of girls around her.
Yeah, they can help her keep it.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
So she shouldn't really lose it.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
She has those two girls helping her the whole time
, unless they break up.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
But yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I got JCJ winning it, keeping it the whole time
unless they break up.
But yeah, I got JCJ winning it,keeping it for a little bit
longer, maybe losing it at HeatWave or something like that.
Yeah, but that's what I wasWell never mind, because whoever
wins this could lose to MashaSamovich.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, I think so which is why I?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
don't think.
Jordan Grace is going to win it, because Jordan Grace wins it
then wins the TNA championshiptoo.
She just came to TNA.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
It would have to be JC James.
Jc James may lose to MarshaStone.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
You don't think Jordan Grace is going to lose?
Oh yeah, because then her titlereign and then it would end.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
After a week.
Exactly After a week, or howlong?
Yeah, about a week or so.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, I'm a, I'm a, you're gonna stick with.
Jordan Grace, though right, uhhuh, stick with Jordan Grace.
No, I don't think so.
I don't know.
You can stick with Jordan.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Grace, she can beat Masha Stumper, because they may
have both titles.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'll stick with Jordan Grace.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
She could win both titles, I mean she had to take
these titles before before shecame to WWE.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I'll stick with Jordan Grace.
Yeah, probably gonna lose, um,so, uh, that's what you gonna
say for that.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, got jaycee james for that one and uh.
The second match on the card isjay cargill versus naomi, with
bianca belair as the specialguest referee, and it's a no
bars match too which is whatthey needed, because it's been
on sight with them since theyfigured out that Naomi was the
one that pushed Jade onto thatcar.
Every time somebody comes out,the other one comes out, so you

(05:28):
have to have this kind of match,some kind of stipulations.
Falls County, where no holdsbarred, last woman standing.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's the only way you can end this feud, or at least
this way anyways.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, but I see Jade Kirkland winning and then
Naomi's going to cash in on herTo keep the rivalry.
I see Jade Cargill winning andthen Naomi's going to cash in on
her.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, to keep the rivalry.
Here's the other question,though Is Bianca going to have
is she going to be what theycall partial right down the
middle, or is she going to be?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
She's going to be impartial.
To Naomi Impartial, I was goingto say she's going to be
impartial right no To.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Naomi.
Impartial means she doesn'thave anything.
She's in the middle.
Oh no, no, Partial, partialmeans she's going to be on
either side.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oh, she's going to be on Jade Cargill's side.
She's going to be partial.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
To Jade Cargill no.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
She's going to be going against Naomi.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, you think yeah.
Why?
Because she attacked her bestfriend and Jade didn't even.
It was deserved, kind of.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
But why wouldn't Bianca join forces with Naomi?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Why would she do that after she took out their best
friend, both of their bestfriends?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Maybe she felt the same way.
Maybe Naomi did it first beforeBianca did it.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
No, I don't think so, just saying I mean everybody
was talking about look at Jade.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
now Where's Jade at right now?
She's in the title picture whatmatch?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
summer slam which is the second biggest show and it's
, and it's, the biggest one.
That's the biggest onesupposedly, of the summer.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah and jade's in that match, not bianca, not
naomi.
Yeah, I mean bianca was.
Exactly.
And what happened while she washurt?
Jade, yeah, forgot about herand went on her own.
Mm-hmm Won Queen of the Ring,just going to challenge, I guess
, eo, or whoever wins between EOand Rhea.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, but Jade's going to win.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Or will it be the?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
winner of Tiffany and Trish Stratus so that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So she already has a title shot already, just waiting
to see who's going to get it.
Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, goahead.
Who are you saying?
You say you got who winning.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Jay Cardew, Jay Cardew.
I want Naomi to win.
Though just for the record, I'mgoing to go with Naomi winning,
because Jay doesn't need toChet's house already.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Mm-hmm, and then Bianca's to get the guest
referee, so anything can happenin that match.
Referees.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
And it's WWE, so guest referees always get
involved some kind of way.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
So I think Bianca's going to get involved and help
Naomi and that kind of starts alittle mini-feud with.
Or yeah, I I don't know,because then if you start a feud
with Bianca, costing- Jade thematch, then it's going to be
Jade, but then nobody.
Huh, I mean, you'd rather?

(08:13):
See Naomi and Bianca feud witheach other and give them
something to do in the meantimebut, I just don't see, I just
don't see it how.
I just don't see it.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
They got that whole Oscar winning performance on
SmackDown.
You don't think they're goingto go to rivalry?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, I know but, I'm just saying this.
Bianca was getting booed a lotof times.
You don't think that's going toget to her.
To make her sour, naomi.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, but you got to think about it.
I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, maybe not, but it could you never know.
With this match, I'm gonna gowith Naomi winning.
I'm going Naomi winning.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
But that's what you're gonna say.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, that's it.
I'm gonna win that one no holdsbarred match.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
And for the third match on the card, it's the
Judgment Day versus CharlotteFlair and Alexa Bliss versus
Soruka and Zaria versus theKabuki Warriors for the WWE
Women's Tag Team Championships.
And the Judgment Day is Raqueland Roxanne instead of Raquel
and Liv.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, Live that with a shoulder injury yeah.
Which is tough for Evolutiontoo, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
So for this one, I think, I mean I think Roxanne I
mean, no, not Roxanne Charlotteand Alexa are gonna win, but I
hope that the Judgment Day winsto keep the feud going?
Actually, no, Because then theyI don't know, I'm going to say
Charlotte and Alexa maybe, Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I mean it would be like WWE to let Charlotte and
Alexa For Charlotte and Alexa towin.
It would be WWE eventually.
Because I mean they always,Anytime you put people together
like that.
Cody Rhodesins and Jay wouldstill win tag team finals.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
It just happens, For whatever reason you get two
people who are?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
tag team who don't have any tag team experience
technically, but they put themtogether and they all of a
sudden win tag team gold.
Naomi and Jay, Not Naomi Biancaand Jay Boom.
Tag team champions.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
And then Naomi and Bianca.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Exactly who do you got boom tag team champions, and
then Naomi and Bianca.
Exactly so who do y'all win at?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Alexa and Charlotte it's not.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's not unreasonable for them to win, but and so,
ruka and Zari, I don't see themwinning yeah, I mean I don't see
the Kabuki Wars winning,actually well, asuka coming back
, they could easily win.
I mean, and Kyrie, I don't seethe Luki Wars winning.
Actually, with Asuka comingback, they could easily win.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean, and Kyrie, but I think Kyrie's saying you
saw Vendetta.
She had Not Vendetta, but likewhatever it's called, video
package.
Video package, it was just likeher pirate gimmick and you saw,
like her goggle thing, it waslooking at the Women's
Championship.
I think she's going to go afterIyo Sky Eventually.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Or Asuka too.
What's Asuka going to do?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
She's going to go after Iyo Sky too.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
But Hmm you know what ?
I'm going to keep the JudgmentDay because Finn Balor is going
to tag team championships.
I'm going to keep that in thehouse.
Let that be.
Yeah, yeah, let them.
What's up, what's up, what doyou want that to be the cause?

(11:32):
We see Dominic and Finn arehaving little issues right now.
Are they going to break up?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
eventually, but not right now.
That's what I'm saying.
So.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I think the women, raquel and Roxanne, are going to
win again.
Well, not again, but they'regoing to defend their
championships.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, it should be a good match, though.
I mean, those are four goodteams, a bunch of good wrestlers
in that match there's not anybad wrestlers in that match.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Really.
I mean, Raquel may be the leastexperienced out of that, but
Roxanne.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Roxanne wrestled for a while.
She's an ROH champion.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh, I didn't know that, so maybe Sol Ruka may be
the least experienced.
Yeah, probably Sol Ruka.
Sol Ruka may be the leastexperienced.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
But every time she wrestles, what does she do?
She puts do.
She puts on a show mm-hmmthere's actually wrestles yeah
so you can't tell, and it'salready been wrestling for a
while in the pen.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
The scene and then we already know Kyrie and Oscar is
that you know what Charlotteand Lesley's been doing on there
to be for last almost decade.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, so yeah, that should be a good man like.
There's not that to me it's nota week, nine weeklings on this
match that somebody's likepulling somebody else up or
something like that yeah, all.
All of them can hold their own,which means it's got the
potential to be a good tag teammatch.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know, but you said that Judgment did.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I want Zarya and Solo to win, but I just don't see it
.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
You do, yeah, I do.
I want them to win.
I don't think that will fit thestoryline.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
But want them to win.
But I don't think they're notgoing to win because I think
Dari and Solo are going to feudat Heat Wave or something like
that later on this year.
So you can't have them be tagteam champions and feud at the
same time.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I mean, who will want to win?
Probably the Kabuki Warriors,but I don't think they're going
to win.
But uh, I said alexa andcharlotte, and for the next
match.
That's what you can say, that'sit all.
Right, the next match, thefourth match on the card, it's
the bat, it's the women's battleroyal.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Um is this a gimmick match on evolution no, it's just
a.
It's a match, like I told youbefore what was it?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
was it in the last evolution?
I don't think so oh, I don'tremember I thought it was maybe.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I can't accept it.
Usually I can't remember thatfar, so I don't remember.
I thought it was.
Maybe I can't, I can't remember, but I can't remember.
But uh, yeah, I mean they need.
I'll tell you that before youknow.
Whoever doesn't get one on onematches you just have like a
battle royale or something.
That way you can have all thewomen from the past, present,
future oh yeah, also it's forclash.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I don't match that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm saying like, battle Royale, though, is good
because you can put people Ithought they would have one at
Worlds Collide with AAAwrestlers and WWE wrestlers, nxt
wrestlers all in one place.
But yeah, so Battle Royale isgood too, because you can put
women who don't have a singlesmatch or a tag team match or
whatever on this, and you canhave them.

(14:19):
You can bring older wrestlersout who may not be in a wrestle
a full time, a full match,anymore, but still want to be
there, like I'm hoping to seemaybe Jazz or somebody show up.
I mean, she's technicallyretired, but she can always come
out and do a couple things inthe ring and then get thrown out
, you know, just to make thecrowd pop a little bit, you know
isn't that just a wasted spot?

(14:39):
though no, why she's a legend.
I'm not talking aboutJacqueline or just like anybody
like have we not seen wrestlersrunning in the ring get
eliminated in one second?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
so that's a wasted spot.
Technically it is.
I don't disagree.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's what I'm saying I'm not talking about
that.
I'm saying come in, do a couplemoves on people and then get
thrown out.
That way you don't have toactually put a full wrestling
match if you can't do one.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
So, like Booker T did a couple years ago Exactly he
came out got popped.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Came out, did a couple things, spinneroni boom
thrown out.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
He was never going to win it.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
We knew that, but it's the pop, so maybe they do
something like that with some ofthe older women wrestlers
legends who didn't get a chanceto get that much time on TV.
Maybe like a Gail Kim orsomebody, a lot of wrestlers
from back in the Attitude Era orright after.
They were only gettingfive-minute matches.

(15:31):
Then they had gimmick matches.
There was never an actualone-on-one.
Lita and Trish Stratus kind ofchanged that around Trying on
people like that.
Before that that it was a bunchof gimmick matches like mud
wrestling and stuff like thatyou know it was like.
So the real women wrestlers thewomen who could actually

(15:51):
wrestle, wouldn't get up to itand wrestle, so maybe the ones
who didn't get up to it needthat chance to get their POE,
you know moment yeah, I thinkEvolution is a great, a great
pay-per-view.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
get their POE, you know moment yeah.
But yeah, I think Evolution's agreat, a great pay-per-view.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
It is.
It is Like I said.
They should do one, if notevery year, every two years or
so.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah.
You know I think they should doone every year.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
They should do one every year, but you know they
probably had spent seven yearsin the last one because they had
plenty of time doing the lastone.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
That was someone else's booking, to be fair.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Still, you could have did it.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Who do you got winning?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
that?
Who do you?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
think it's like the casino gauntlet match.
I mean, you don't know who'sgoing to be in it.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I know.
We know a few people are goingto be in it.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
And we know a title line at Clash that cancels all
the lines, so we know morelikely that one of the older
ones aren't going to win it,probably not.
Nxt is going to win it morelikely Probably.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
So it has to be somebody on the main roster?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
probably, so it has to be somebody on the main
roster.
Do you want to do a thing wherewe get extra points if we
predict like someone coming back?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
we could, but what do you want to do I?
Mean I already, I already thinkthere's a lot of people out
there Gil Kim and Jazz yeah youknow, I would say AJ, lee and
maybe Paige, I don't know Paigeis a free agent.
She did a podcast with.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
CBC right yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Chris Van Vliet.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Chris Van Vliet.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
She did a podcast with him, so she's freaking
right now.
She said she can pop up anytimeshe wants to.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
She's cleared to wrestle, so she could easily pop
up.
She was at the last one, butshe didn't wrestle.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So you want to count extra points or not?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
We can just predict it and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I I'm saying AJ, lee and Paige are coming back.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
AJ Lee's a good one.
I mean, if AJ Lee comes?
I've been saying that for years.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I mean, but like she said on her I forgot what it was
, but it was like she like saidlike hello darkness, my old
friend and she had like her oldboots on or something.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
That was a little while ago, though, wasn't it?
No, that was like pretty recent.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I thought that was a while ago.
No Like how long did you talkto her, but maybe she was.
I know she was doing it.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
She did a TV show where she was like on a TV show,
like a wrestling TV show.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
She did that where she was wrestling on that, so I
thought it might have beenaround that time when she did
that, when she posted it.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
No, but it was like she had like her old boots on
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Paige, aj, that's two good ones.
Two good ones, I mean.
If Paige comes back, she'sgoing to actually be wrestling.
Aj comes back, she may not bethere full time, unless she
wants to be, you know.
This would be a perfect time forher to come back, though, in
the Battle Royal.
Yeah, it'd really be better forher to come back in the Royal
Rumble, because you get theactual full introduction.

(18:40):
You know when you're coming outBattle Royals, everybody
already in the ring.
There's just a few of them atthe end.
A lot of them.
They should do all of them.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
They should take time to do every single person going
to be in the Battle Royals Oneby one.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Bring everybody out Normally when they do Battle
Royals.
I saw a few of the Andre theGiant Battle Royals.
You saw it, you were that oneof them, where they have a bunch
of them come out at one time.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
And then they have, like the big guy.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
And then they have a few guys come out individually
yeah or the guy who's just goingto win.
Yeah, exactly, so that's whatthey usually do.
A lot of times they're going todo that again today for the the
AJ Lee, or it would be the AJLee or Paige.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
If it was a surprise, it would be the last one to be
the surprise one, yeah, just toget a pop, because if they're
already in the ring, that'sgoing to be boring.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Exactly so, yeah, but who do you got winning?
You think Because they got toget a title shot at Clash of the
Castles.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't know of whoever on their brand, because
if SmackDown wins, it'd beagainst Tiffany or Trish.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I don't think it matters.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I think they just said a WWE Women's Champion,
yeah, but I'm guessing, thoughif you're on that, whatever
brand you're on, that's how itmatch.
If you're on NXT, do you get togo NXT Women's Champion or do
you get WWE Women's?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
No, I think it's WWE winners.
Wwe okay, so that's what I'msaying, Because Kalani and
Jordan, I think was cutting apromo on Tiffany and them, I
think I don't know, so yeah,that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
So whoever wins that will get a title match against
one of the women on WWE.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure , anyway, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Who do you think is going to win anything?
It's hard to predict thatbecause you got at least 20
women.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I think it's going to be either Stephanie Viqueur or
somebody else.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I don't think it's Stephanie myself.
I don't think it's Stephaniealready myself.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I kind of want to say AJ Lee, but I don't see a
return happening.
I don't see a return she doescome back, I don't see a return
winning.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It'd be because it'd be one of the heels to throw her
out to get some good heat onthem.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, so I would say Stephanie Rukia.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, I don't like agreeing with you a lot, because
I don't like things like that,because it'd make it funner, but
for more fun, but uh, I meanthere's no, there's literally
nobody else that's gonna win.
I'm just talking about who'sgonna win yeah, but I mean, you
don't know who's gonna be in itwho.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
But who would win if they were in it?
I would say Bianca Baller, butshe's not in it yeah, if you
don't.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Jay's not in it, naomi's not in it, sean's's in
it.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, that's it, that's really it, oh.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
NXT women Last Legend's in it.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, but I don't see them winning.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh, speaking of Last Legend, I'm thinking, you know
what.
I'm going to go back to myprediction on Naomi real quick.
I just thought about this.
I was thinking about this theother day, it just popped in my
mind again.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's about the NXT thing.
Oh, that's not happening.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
It is no, it's not Perfect place to do it Ladd
Legend, hometown, mm-hmm.
Perfect place.
Because she just lost for a noMore Contenders match on NXT.
Yeah, she can move up to themain roster.
That'd be a good way to get herwith a veteran, like they did
Omos and AJ Styles, mm-hmm.
Put them with somebody whoknows what they're doing, like
Naomi.

(21:56):
You can also have her be themuscle for Naomi.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, so it doesn't get beat down by Jade every week
, but I don't see that happeningOkay.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
When it happens.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You know what it is.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's not going to happen, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Last Legend coming up .

Speaker 1 (22:12):
She's going to be at Babyface because people like
Last.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
But she's not at Babyface, her character's not at
Babyface.
Yeah, but like that's what I'msaying.
They're gonna cheer and thenthey're gonna boo her because
she's winning, because shehelped Naomi beat Jade.
That's not gonna happen it isgonna happen.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
That's what I think is gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
You think Bianca's just like blind or something you
ever heard about a refereegetting knocked out?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
yeah, but Bianca Valeri's not just like any.
Any referee I punch would justknock her out.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
No but still, it can happen though, but anyways
that's why I got Last Legendcoming up debuting on the main
roster and helping out Naomibecome her muscle.
She don't have a group anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, but who wins the Battle Royale?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I was thinking about that.
Stephanie Julia's in it.
She is.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, she's in it I thought champions weren't's in
it.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
She is.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, she's in it.
Oh, I thought champions weren'tallowed in it.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, julia's in it, chelsea Green's in it.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm sure Nia Jax may show up, I would think.
Anyways, yeah, yeah, watch.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Nia Jax.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Be like the big, like the big person you know, like
the big, like like the bigperson you know, like the make
the major person yeah, but yeah,I think stephanie's gonna win
it just because she has thosewomen I'm going for right now
outside of, like julia and allthem, all the other girls.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
But yeah, so you think stephanie's gonna win it?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
yeah if anybody else, I'm sure I'm missing somebody
that's off the top of my head.
I'm gonna be.
I'm gonna remember after we getdone with this, but right right
now I know I think Stephanie'sgoing to win it.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah.
So I think that, oh yeah, but Ithink Stephanie Viqueira's
going to win.
But for the next match on thecard is Trish Stratus versus
Stephanie Stratton for the WWEWomen's Championship, for the
WWE Women's Championship, andfor this one, I feel like

(24:03):
Tiffany just retains, because Ifeel like this is just a one-off
thing for Trish Stratus, likeshe does on the show.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Trish Stratus wrestled Lex Luthor last time on
Evolution.
Oh, she did I think it was LexLuthor.
Oh yeah, I think it was LexLuthor last time, mm-hmm, I
don't know if I can remember, solike a super modern person
versus like a yeah, older person.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Pretty much, yeah.
That's what.
That's what it is.
That's what this is.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
This match is basically mhm so who do you got
winning at Tiffany?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
yep, I don't see Trish Stratus winning, because I
think that's just a one offappearance wait.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
she's been on TV a lot, though Shane said she
retired.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, and she's not retiring.
I'm just saying it's a one-offappearance, I think yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Maybe she may get some help from some of her older
females.
I don't see that I know I'mjust throwing stuff out there to
make it interesting.
Yeah, but yeah, I thinkTiffany's going to retain as
well, don, maybe SummerSlamagainst Jade, or maybe Hotel
WrestleMania next year and loseit to somebody.
I don't know.
But yeah, I don't see Tiffanylosing to Trish Stratus Not

(25:04):
right now it's been 20 years ago, but a different story probably
, but right now.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I think Tiffany's the one that's.
You know right now.
She got it right now, mm-hmm.
Oh yeah, so you're going to sitfor that.
Yeah, I'll sit for that, I andshould be a good match, though,
yeah definitely, and for thenext match on the card is Becky
Lynch versus Bayley versus LilaVakaria for the WWE Women's
Intercontinental Championshipthis match should have made it
nah.
I mean it still has a chance.

(25:32):
I don't think, io Sky, theyalready said.
I think they said yesterday.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
The main event that's the main event is el versus
coming.
We show el sky of the dayinstead of main event of
evolution oh yeah, that makessense, they showed her and they
showed uh ria yeah yeah, he saidthe main event of evolution I
mean personally.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I yes, I think it does warrant the main event.
But I don't think, even if it,even if it, uh, even if el or uh
trish stratus match, I don'tthink.
I don't think either, even ifthose were not announced to be
the main event.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I don't think those, I don't think Bayley's, because
the problem is you got to goafter who that match may start
it off.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, because you don't want to have that match be
co-main event.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Because, if they, because you know, bayley,
they're great wrestlers prettymuch and they're going to put on
a show.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
And you don't want to go after them if you don't know
the main event, because now yougot to live with that, what
they just did.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Kind of like that when they had Montez.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Ford and them when they had that tag team match
with all the tag teams, Uh-huh.
And it was should have been aWrestleMania, but it wasn't, and
then the War Raiders knew theylooked bad.
But then that other tag teamactually got a resume.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
That was a match of the year contender it was.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's what I'm saying, this right here is not a
bad match either, so this matchmay start it off to get the
crowd going, and all that, yeah,because this right here, this
one and Naomi, are the two onesthat have the biggest.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh no, A title match is never going to make it.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, but I'm saying those two are the two biggest
build-ups.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Like what's going on with both the wrestlers.
Naomi and Bayley, then Naomiand Jay, and then Bayley and
Becky and Lyra.
You know, I mean that's yougoing back, becky and Bayley
going back to NXT.
Yeah, and you put Lyra in there, who started wrestling because
of Becky, trained in the sameplace as Becky.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, I mean Lyra and Becky goes back to NXT too,
exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
She beat her Uh-huh, and then you got Bayley in there
, which Becky attacked Bayley atWrestlemania caused her not to
be at the.
Wrestlemania then, you know,took her spot, won tag team
championships, Boom.
Now she's in the Women'sIntercontinental Championship.
Yeah, so, but yeah, I meanthat's the biggest, that's the
biggest buildup, I think, in thewhole card, besides Naomi and
Jade, as far as title online.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
But uh, but yeah, that's my opinion.
They should have made it, butwho do you got winning that
though?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Uh, Becky's gonna retain you think Becky's gonna
retain.
Uh Becky.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Mmm.
No, I think Baby's gonna win it.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Where'd you get that logic from?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Because where'd you get that logic from?
Because it's just, it's atriple threat match.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Anything can happen, yeah, and and, like I said,
nobody likes each other Larabeen fighting with Bayley,
bayley been fighting with Lara.
Lara been fighting with Becky,becky been fighting with with
Bayley for a while.
So it's nobody's gonna reallyteam up.
I think too much it's gonna bea little bit here and there, but
it's not going to be much teamup at all because all three are
going to lock each other up.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I think Bayley and Lyra are going to team up at the
beginning, maybe, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Maybe, or they may start fighting at the beginning,
who knows, play both one of thesame thing, mm-hmm, yeah, I'm
going to go ahead, I mean yougot to get her.
I mean, she missed WrestleMania.
Come on girl.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I think if it would happen, it would happen at
SummerSlam.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, she would wrestle at SummerSlam against
somebody else, I think.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, because I mean Becky and Bayley haven't had
their one-on-one match.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, you can have it at SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
You can have it at SummerSlam.
I'm saying, if Bayley wins, ifshe pins Lyra, then Becky can be
like you never pinned me.
And then boom, there we go.
Yeah, or or Becky wins.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, I think it, I think it, I think that happens.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
But the other way around.
She pins Lyra, then Becky wantsto rematch, but and then, and
then there it works better forBecky lose, the country gets a
rematch.
So if Bayley was to pin Lara,Bayley would get a rematch and
it would be more likely to be aSummerSlam.
That's a SummerSlam match rightthere.
It's a big time match.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
But I see that going the other way it could go either
way.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
So neither one of us got Lara winning.
No, lara doesn't win at all.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I mean according to us, yeah, so.
So I mean according to us, yeahso, but yeah, so that's what
you're going to say for that.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, I got Bayley winning that one.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
All right, in the main event of WWE Evolution,
it's Io Sky versus Rhea Ripleyfor the Women's World
Championship.
Yep, and this one, I mean Ireally want Io to win and this
one, I mean I really want Io towin and I just I don't know.
I just feel like Rhea Ripleyshouldn't have the title for
like at least like a couple ofmonths.
So I mean I'm going to say Ioto retain, because I think she's

(30:11):
going to retain.
I mean I don't think so, but Iwant it's a hard one, because we
know what Rhea does inchampionship matches.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
She usually wins.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
On average, not all the time.
She lost the rest of the mainagainst Io, yeah, but it's the
one-on-one.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
And then they keep saying that Rhea's never beat
her, so when they do that, thatmeans they always Exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
They always have a storyline behind time.
She doesn't, but Rhea has nohelp.
Io, she doesn't, but she does,but she doesn't, they don't come
out.
They don't come out interferingwith that.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
She's still with damage control technically.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
She kind of left.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Did she leave?
They never feud with each otherwhen she won the world title.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
she just left Well left.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, she didn't leave him because Oscar went
back here when she won the worldtitle.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I mean, yeah, but like the rest of the damage
control in Dakota wasn't eventhere.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Exactly.
All you had was Kari Sane.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Kari Sane, that's all you had.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
So you really couldn't leave anybody who was
not there.
Yeah, so they're back outsideof Dakota, so, but, but, yeah,
but.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I got I'm'm gonna go with yo as well to win this.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Uh, I mean, I really think ria probably will win it,
but I really want yo to winevery time yeah, definitely but
you know what I'm gonna go.
You say you pick the yo right?
Yeah, all right, I'm just gonnago, I'm gonna go ahead, but you
can't go wrong either one.
I'm just going to pick ahead,but you can't go wrong with
either one.
I'm just going to pick Rhea.
I'm going to go ahead and getRhea.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I'm going to go ahead and pick Rhea to win.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
You're going to lose, that's fine, I think so anyways
.
I'm going to go ahead and pickRhea to win become the new
Women's World Champion.
You know she can feud withwhoever Io versus Oscar or Kairi
for the title, but I think, forsome reason, I just think
Rhea's going to win the title.
Yeah, but yeah, All right.

(32:07):
Oh, one thing, though, aboutthis that I didn't really, not
because I didn't like, but allwomen's PLE.
You should have had all thebelts.
Now, what belts not beingdefended.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
The women's North American championship.
I mean, that was defendedyesterday, yeah, yesterday.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
but that was not being defended either.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
You mentioned it earlier.
Oh, the United States, I mean,they don't you would think you
would give her a one-on-onematch at Evolution.
I mean, she's a big time itcould be anybody.
Well, like who, though it couldbe anybody.
It could be anybody Like I'mtalking about with Athena the
other day at AEW you could haveput her in the ring as anybody
in a one-on-one match for theAEW, for the ROH, but against

(32:55):
anybody.
It's not about who's in it,it's just about giving that
spotlight.
You know so, like Julia, she'sa big time name and you got her
in a battle royal.
I'm not saying anything badabout battle royal but you could
have a one-on-one match withher and whoever you could have
gave you know anybody a shot forthat, I mean anybody could get

(33:16):
a you know, and it would havebeen a big time match, you have
all the women, all the women'schampionships defended, except
for the North American one yeahand even NXT women's has been
defended on this.
Nxt women's both WWE women's tagteams Intercontinental you
could have probably squeezed theUnited States in there too yeah

(33:38):
, but people don't like the UStitle.
But with Julia Havis you couldhave probably squeezed the
United States in there too.
Yeah, but people don't like theUS title.
But with Julia Havis that's whyyou put it on a PLA like this.
Yeah, to make more people awareof it.
And it's Julia that has it too.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
She's a popular wrestler, Mm-hmm.
You know, so, but again, whowould?
She doesn't have any storylines, except Zelina Vega.
She could rematch, no I don'tsee Zelina Vega getting
rematched.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
She couldn't rematch.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
She couldn't rematch.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
And that would have been in a feud right there
Couldn't rematch.
If Julia wins the feud's overwith Do you think Zelina's going
to turn heel ever?
I don't know, but I'm justsaying you can have her and
Julia wrestle in the rematch.
Have now that.
Now, if julia wins now, selenais over, she can't, so she has

(34:21):
no reason to ask for anothertitle shot.
And now you can have juliegoing.
Somebody else now for gettingready for summer slam yeah, you
know now you still got selena.
Whoever else wants to getinvolved in that match, you know
well.
Anything else, you want to talkabout this before y'all um nope
, all right, so hopefully wedon't have to wait another seven
eight years to do another talkabout this before y'all.

(34:42):
Nope, alright.
So hopefully we don't have towait another 70 years to do
another evolution thing.
Hopefully it's another year ortwo years, but anyways I'm.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Ben, I'm.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Bash Tag.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Team.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Talk.
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