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So in this situation, she's medically being induced with cancer.
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And I allowed it.
Because I let them talk me into this nonsense of violating her sacred bloodstream.
The nerve of me, right?
and for me to allow myself to be diminished to the point that I believed for a minute that these
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lunatics knew something I didn't. Because the only thing I knew was that my baby was perfect.
I took the baby to be checked out because they make you believe that this is what you have to do
if you're a good mom. Otherwise, you're not a good mom. And this is a lie. And I am here to tell all
of you young people that you do not need a doctor for literally anything. I had to figure out what
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was true. And what was true was that the only way to live a healthy, fulfilling, long life is to stop
interfering with nature, period. Full stop. If you're going to interfere with nature, you are
going to suffer needlessly. So you get to choose. All right. Hello, everyone. Thank you so much for
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for coming by for another episode of the Ben Worman podcast. I appreciate you being here.
This one came across my radar from our mutual friend, Kate Moore, who I'm a good Nostra friends
with. And I actually just missed meeting her in person at the place I'm staying at right now in
Costa Rica. She was here like a few days before I got here at this big house that a bunch of friends
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are rolling through. So that's too bad. But I know that she always has good signal in the realm
of health and food and diet. And she, she posted a story and actually let me, let me pull it up
here. I can just read what she said. She said, my mentor who operates an unincorporated regenerative
meat business just had her entire bank account, business bank account drained. The collapse is
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in motion. The fraud has always been in motion. And so of course I reached out to her. I needed
more information on who that was so I could get them on the podcast and chat. So today I have
Neethi, the pharmacist, pharmacist with an F, which I love. Thank you so much for joining me
today. I really appreciate you coming by. Oh, thank you so much for the interest. Listen, I,
I am so in awe of the young people today. You guys are so much smarter than we were. And I,
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I really appreciate the opportunity to speak with young people whenever I can.
Yes, and we appreciate the wisdom of the people like yourself who have been through this and are still going through it, clearly.
So just to get a little bit of background, I know that you have quite a backstory.
I actually, just while sort of looking into your history, I found you on my buddy Coach Stephen Thomas's YouTube channel,
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who I had on his podcast way back in the day, early on, when I was really going through the carnivore rabbit hole.
So I'd like to hear just a background on your story and how you, I know that you had vitiligo.
Your family has been through a bunch of different health struggles and food has always been at the forefront of that.
So could you give me a background on how food has played a part in your life?
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Wow. Oh, it's everything. Food is light. It is a life-giving force.
And I want to emphasize for young people right now that on America, we have literally dropped the ball because you hear Americans out there saying things like, I don't care what I eat.
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I'll eat anything.
A calorie is a calorie.
I mean, it's really, I find it very heartbreaking.
So I know that you spoke to my mentor, Joel Salatin.
And, you know, I'm in business with his son, Daniel.
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And then also, you know, Alan Savory is one of my mentors as well.
And Stephen was a fellow coach.
We were both meet our ex-coaches.
and I mean, all of the group that were on the MeatRx platform, it was actually super exciting
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for me because it was the first time a physician was recognizing meat as medicine. And so I had
already established that it was medicine. I was already coaching people with the fact that it was
medicine. And so that was a big, big deal when, when I found that, because a lot of people asked
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me why I was coaching, but I had not gone to nutrition school or didn't have any certification.
And I will, I mean, with everything that I do, I want everyone to realize that there is no
certification. There's no degree. There's nothing that a corporation can teach me
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that nature hasn't already established. And unfortunately, I have been operating in nature
for so long that I already just know that they have nothing to offer me. But it's very difficult
for the orthodoxy, for the society to realize this. You know, it's a de facto mentality. And so
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I'll get into that a little bit. But as far as my background goes, I wasn't trying to do any of this.
Let me just say that I wasn't trying to, you know, have to stand up for anything this big
or to come out and try to, you know, I'm not interested in warring with people.
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I think a lot of folks are like, you know, Neetha, you just want to argue.
you? I actually don't. I would really love to just come there, sit in the water, just chill out in
the, who's trying to argue. I'm not, I'm, I don't, I don't care that much to just make you think what
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I think. Like that's, I'm not interested in that. I don't really know who's interested in that. Not
me. I'm not interested in that. What happened with me was that I had this whole battle with
vitiligo. I didn't realize what that was going to be doing for me or how that was going to be
shaping me. Um, but I'll come back to that because I didn't find out how powerful that
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whole experience was until last year. Um, I was just like every other fun, loving young person
going out into the world. You know, I had my dream of marrying this Prince Charming that was
going to come and he was going to sweep me off my feet and, you know, and I actually got my Prince
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charming and he did sweep me off my feet and he is incredible. And it's, he never ceases to
surprise and amaze me. And we've been together now 23 years and I just, I can't know what I would
have ever done without him. We have a magical story, but we also been through a lot of tragedy
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and it's not something anybody ever thinks about.
You guys are nice young.
You're out there in the world just coming to age
and going out to try to discover what's going on.
Who's planning for tragedy or crisis?
Or, you know, like certainly not me.
I mean, I don't, you know, maybe we're just too naive.
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I don't really know.
Like we were just going on about our lives.
Like everything was wonderful.
and I'm the mother of three incredible souls.
And when our middle daughter,
she was two years old,
then she was diagnosed with a CCO neuroblastoma.
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And this kind of came out of nowhere.
But look, I wrote a book about the story
because I spoke about it for many years and literally to the detriment of my own health.
A lot of folks are like, you just want us to buy the book. And I'm like, not really. I mean,
anyone who's written books knows you don't make money as an author. Okay. That's not really the
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point. But if you want to know the truth of it, you want it in context, then you have to read it
because there's, it's so big. It's so much bigger than me. It is a story about the failure of our
centralized medical paradigm. And I think everyone needs to hear it and see it and read it because I
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don't know anyone who's going to read that and not be able to acknowledge the truth of it because
we've all experienced the physician, the lab, you know, the white coat coming in, trying to
behave like our authority. A lot of you guys haven't lived long enough to remember a time
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when we didn't go to the doctor.
When I was growing up, there wasn't a pediatrician.
Everybody had family doctors.
There wasn't a pediatrician.
I mean, there might have been someone
who specialized in pediatrics
and the family physician was supposed to know everything
from pediatrics to adulthood
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because you don't find vets.
Like you don't find a veterinarian
who just focuses in on digestion or just focuses in on the shoulders or something.
You don't have, I mean, maybe someone would argue, oh, we're not going to invest that
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kind of education for livestock management or something or managing animals.
I mean, why not?
Why wouldn't you do that?
I guess there's people who really love their animals.
I mean, so much so that now you have a generation of people who want to claim themselves as furries.
And there are lunatics who are putting cat boxes in bathrooms in public schools for the kids who want to pretend that they're furries.
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Because, you know, we have to we have to be inclusive.
We have to include the insanity of this nonsense that you could just do and be whoever you want to be.
Like, look, you can be whatever you want to be.
Apparently, you can even be a crazy person who decides that you want to use a cat litter box at school instead of knowing that there's only two genders in reality under universal law.
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I mean, maybe people don't like God. So maybe God's law doesn't matter. Maybe nature's law
doesn't matter. I mean, I don't really know what matters anymore because they're, I think they want
to make young people today believe that nothing, there's no standard. There's no reality because
everything's relative and there's nothing objective, but I'm here. Are you, are you real?
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Like I don know You could be AI for all of it but like this table is real right And um I think that at some moment we have to be honest with ourselves So I encourage you to be honest with yourself you know and be involved with the see it
touch it, feel it. I feel like all of you young folks are just out escaping and you're traveling
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all over the place to see it and feel it and touch it and experience it and not just talk about it.
And that's what's so incredible about you.
You're the crystal children who have come because you can receive the truth because
there's so many of us who were so indoctrinated in the corporatocracy.
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Like people say, religion is a corporation.
It's incorporated.
It's not real.
It's man-made.
It's airy-fairy.
and I know I'm probably offending everybody all the time with every single word I'm saying right
now, but like be as offended as you want to be. I don't know. I can only speak the truth
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and I don't know how not to do that. And so when I talk about the situation with our daughter,
I had to finally admit the truth, Ben.
It was my fault.
I allowed other men to convince me that I didn't know what my baby needed.
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And I needed to go to a doctor, a professional, to tell me what was wrong with my baby that
was born perfect, perfectly, with everything intact.
and the MMR vaccination turned the cancer markers on in my daughter. I have evidence of it. My memory
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remembers, like my reality, my real experience was that one day she got her vaccination and the
afternoon, that afternoon, she was full of thrush, which means she was full of yeast, which
is the onset of cancer. So I'm not a scientist. Okay. I'm just a mom. And I mean, what do I know?
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I can just observe nature. Okay. And in my observation, that is none of that is normal.
Okay. Thrush is not normal. My mom had never seen it before in her life, but also we were not
injected and our blood, our sacred bloodstream was not violated the way that our babies today are.
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I only ever had two vaccinations in my whole entire life.
And I still, as a side effect, had three autoimmune conditions as a side effect of that.
That's how damaging that was.
And right now they're putting 76 needles into a baby in the first year.
Are you crazy?
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How is this fine?
And then they want to say, well, the science isn't settled.
Science will never be settled.
Science is stupid.
Science is the study of nature.
It is not the knowing of anything.
It is not the knowing of anything.
So if you want to know the truth, then you find yourself at the edge of a cliff and you're
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going to feel the truth real quick.
That is when reality will set in for you because you will have to make a decision and you will
have to be very careful.
And if you choose unwisely, you are going down.
And there isn't a reality in which you don't go down.
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So that is objective truth, right?
That's like gravity is objectively true.
So my experience that I'm sharing with you is true.
Whether you believe it or agree with me or not, I don't care.
Because it's true.
It is what happened.
So in this situation, she's medically being induced with cancer.
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And I allowed it.
Because I let them talk me into this nonsense of violating her sacred bloodstream.
The nerve of me, right?
and for me to allow myself to be diminished to the point that I believed for a minute that these
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lunatics knew something I didn't. Because the only thing I knew was that my baby was perfect.
I took the baby to be checked out because they make you believe that this is what you have to do
if you're a good mom. Otherwise, you're not a good mom. And this is a lie. And I am here to tell all
of you young people that you do not need a doctor for literally anything. You don't. Unless you have
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had a car accident and you're broken open and you need somebody to do something for you, you need
somebody else. You just need one somebody to help you. And it could be any freaking buddy.
Because I can guarantee you, if I find you sitting on the side of the road, I will try to put you
back together again. And anyone who cares is going to try to do that. And that is a regenerative
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principle, care. It is a natural law that we must care. And it is what you naturally do
because you're liquid love. You are worthy beyond belief. You were born that way and you have
nothing to prove to anyone. And anyone who tells you anything else is lying to you and you should
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run and not walk away from them because they are of hate and of evil and we must rebuke evil.
so what happened with me I don't know I figured out that they were liars you can read all about
it in the book and outside of that I had to figure out what was true and what was true was that
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the only way to live a healthy fulfill like a fulfilling long life is to stop interfering with
nature, period, full stop. If you're going to interfere with nature, you are going to suffer
needlessly. So you get to choose if you want to do that. But what was the problem? My problem that
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I kept facing was I was trying to help other mothers, right? Because people would hear what
our story was and then they would want to know what we did to reverse her cancer. Because did
you know that we actually stopped her cancer? We killed her cancer, but she still died. Why?
Well, because the cancer had already eaten all of her physical infrastructure.
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There was no coming back from that.
So upon presentation, she was already shattered.
She was already in a situation where it was irreversible.
She literally, her bone structure was gone.
because the cancer literally ate her entire sphenoid bone, which later establishes your
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sinus infrastructure. And everything behind her face was just tumor. And it was wrapped around her
carotid artery. It was wrapped around her thyroid and everything. It was everywhere.
thank you medical mafia that is what they did they are murderers
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the vaccine rabbit hole is insane i have really only started going down in the last year or so
which is far later than i wish i would have because i was definitely as a young person like
the vast majority of young people out there was raised in this system i got all kinds of vaccines
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growing up and looking back now, it just makes me cringe. I feel very lucky that I'm not worse off.
The one thing that I am suspicious of is my allergies. I've always been battling allergies,
even going carnivore. I still have that. So I think that was probably one of the things the
vaccines gave me that who knows if I'll ever fully fix it. I'll just be, you know, I'm never
going to give up. I'm going to continue going down all these health rabbit holes because you never
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know, right? The further you get back connected to nature, it has enormous healing potential and
You can never give up on the possibilities that are out there if you do do that.
But before we move on from this, I think that I'm really glad you went here.
I wasn't sure if you were, but this is important for people, obviously.
I mean, this notion that you have to inject yourself with heavy metals to be a good mother.
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Aborted fetuses.
Yeah, it's absolutely nuts.
Which resources would you point people toward to learn more about that?
I know there are some books out there that are really good, some podcasts.
I'm curious which ones you would recommend to any mothers that may be listening that want to look in this specific rabbit hole.
My favorite are Dr. Suzanne Humphreys books.
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You know, Dr. Suzanne Humphreys wrote.
Oh, my gosh.
This is really bad.
I've got I've got her books just around the corner over there if I get her get up and go look.
But oh, Dissolving Illusions.
That's that's I was drawing a blank there.
But she's written anything that she has written.
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I want you to read it because she's a nephrologist.
So what what happens with a vaccination is it'll immediately start putting you in kidney
and renal failure in some form.
And so she can tell you all about it.
And you read her book, Dissolving Illusions.
That should be the first one.
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And then her next book that I don't, sorry, Suzanne, I can't remember the names of the books, but if you read her books and you don't get it, I just don't know why you don't.
Like, I don't.
The other thing I will say about this is that the corporatocracy has done an incredible job.
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Incredible.
They're so good.
They're very, very good.
They have really convinced everyone that a virus is a pathogen and it doesn't even exist.
It's not even a pathogen.
You know what?
Young people have no idea about and they couldn't do what they did long time ago because people
who were living knew the truth like myself.
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You know, when I was coming up and you went to see the doctor and they would, you know,
you didn't feel good.
They would say, oh, you know, let's check you out.
and they're like, well, there's no bacteria present.
So this must be a virus or something.
And what that actually means is, I don't know.
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It is a medical term for, you're glitching.
I don't know.
Have you gotten enough sleep?
Did you get enough sun?
Have you drank enough water?
Are you exercising?
What are you doing?
Did you eat too much of that fake food?
Because you know, it's everywhere.
So probably if you eat nothing but plants all the time and plant material and everything made from plants, because look, plants are medicine, right?
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So if plants are medicine, why are you taking it all the time?
If you take medicine all the time, now you're on drugs and drugs are not good.
So I don't know, you know, just something, just something for you to think about.
my grandfather was a renowned homeopathic physician And he said you know homeopathy is like treats like So what does that even mean You know if you poisoned by a plant then the remedy is a different dose of the plant
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And it's usually a very minuscule dose. And also the better thing to do is what? Remove the toxin.
So I don't know if you just eat weed all the time and your brain is all messed up as a side effect of it.
You can't take something else to help.
You have to just eliminate the toxin itself.
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I mean, one day people will figure it out, Ben.
I don't know.
Like that's one of those things that I don't try to talk people in or out of anything.
We're just going to shine a light on the truth.
And then you're either going to get it or you're not going to get it.
But I don't know that that's my attitude.
It's like, look, you have to live and let live.
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And everyone came here for a reason.
Maybe you just want to suffer.
And who am I to, you know, interfere with your free will to do whatever it is that you
want to do, as long as you're not causing harm to others.
There's only two things that I care about.
And that is that you do unto others as you want others to do unto you.
and you do no harm. And surprisingly, did you know that is the only law on the land?
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It is the only law of the land. We don't operate under these 10 million codes and fake legal
uh, and interferences again, these legalities interfere, interfere, right? You were asking me
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where I came from with this whole thing, with the food thing. Well, my daughter got sick.
We cured her cancer. She still died. Everybody thinks we failed. No, she died because her
infrastructure was just damaged upon presentation, but we arrested her solid mass tumor. So all of
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those cells were necrotic. How did we do that with real food, real meat, in fact, and she only wanted
to eat meat. If as at a two-year-old, she would only eat the meat. If you put a bunch of stuff in
front of her and there were some regenerative pork sausages and some regenerative beef and fruits
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and cookies and candy, she was going to go for the sausage first or the beef. And what I learned in
observing the babies, when you really pay attention, you can't get them to eat McDonald's.
Most of the time kids just pick at their food because your parents are trying to give them
McDonald's and they want to go play on the playground at McDonald's. So they want to go
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to McDonald's to play on the playground at McDonald's. Very few of them actually eat.
And then the mothers put them in the car and then they bring the chicken nuggets and whatever crap
along with them. And then as a mom, I know for a fact that my kids were not really just eating the
food. It's not like they went there and went, Oh yes. And then they like dove into the plate. No,
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they were just excited to be at that playground. You know, the marketing is really specifically
done to make it very flashy colors. And I mean, that playground is like every rainbow color and
the cartoon characters dancing around all over the advertising. It's fun. It looks fun. It looks
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like, Ooh, that's going to be cool. Right. And then they're like, okay, I'll eat a fry or something,
but you don't see them like going, Ooh, this is the best thing I've ever had. Because if it was
that good, then they would just stay right by the food and eat the whole thing. Right. But they don't,
they kind of just run around and do whatever. But you know, you got to be honest. Like a lot
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of parents out there are like, my kids love to go to McDonald's. Yeah. They love to go there.
they didn't tell you to bring it home you know i feel like it would change the older they get
though because like you're saying when you have like a really young child like a baby or an infant
they they haven't been corrupted yet so they still have that natural instinct to go for the
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meats to go for that you know carnivorous desire that we are wired with it isn't until later that
you get rewired by the crazy clown world of sugar and carbs everywhere.
And then the addiction pathways start to be built.
So I think that that's like when you become like five, six or seven,
if your parents aren't feeding you well,
that's when you will start craving those things.
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And because you've been changed.
Yeah.
And it's not even the sugar.
Like I want to make a point to advocate for sugar.
It's not the sugar, like natural cane juice.
It's the sweet taste.
so I'm going to bash every sweet taste. If you're going to use something sweet,
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then at least really use real cane juice, you know, or real honey, like stop going for all
this chemical other stuff. Everybody will go on to stevia and this and that and act like it's fine.
And it's not sweet. Like we actually raised stevia, um, in the, in the gardens for my actual
farm co-op and the animals love it. It's really, really good. It's not very sweet like stevia
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in a bat and a pouch, like real actual, the stevia plant. The stevia plant is, it's kind of sweet,
but it's not that sweet. And so let's just say you were going to, you know how you can use mint
leaves and you can blend it into something and it's super minty. That's really minty.
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It's real mint, right?
It's kind of sweet like mint.
But when you use stevia, it's not really sweet.
Does that make sense?
What I'm saying?
So like if you were to blend it into something, it's not going to, like you can use vanilla
and it sweetens better, right?
Like you could use the extract of vanilla or you can use cinnamon will even kind of
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sweeten something and spice it up, right?
But stevia isn't really like that.
And so I want to encourage everyone, like if you want something sweet, then just go for the real honey or go for the real dehydrated cane juice.
Also, try to not have sweet tastes, like just avoid it altogether as much as possible.
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That's where I was going to go.
I mean, I'm people say I'm too extreme for saying this, but I think that my view of just a sweet taste in general, when you think of like what is the most natural sweet taste?
It's a fruit off of a tree.
and one of the realizations i really had while going through the carnival rabbit hole is that
trees don't exist in nature to create healthy humans uh they exist to produce and survive like
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every other organism they are making these things sweet to make other things eat them so they can
use them as a spreader of their seeds that's why they make it sweet they're using you as a tool
so so the fact that people think just because something is natural means it's good for you is
not correct hemlock is natural and that just kills you you know not all natural things are healthy
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and i think that that when you think of it from a nature perspective and a true evolutionary
perspective there are things out there that seem on the outset that they're good for you because
they're bright colored and sweet but it's actually that organism is outsmarting you when you eat it
and the fact that we now fill these produce sections at the stores with these things that
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are literally just trees seed spreading mechanisms it's it's kind of a joke when you think about like
wow they really tricked us these trees kudos to you guys man you you got the humans to get so
convinced to have this sweet thing to spread your seeds that we're just gobbling it up like crazy now
corn corn they when they make television shows and movies they're actually noticing you the
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corporatocracy, the evil is noticing the good people of what they're doing. So they have these
movies of corn coming to life and attacking the people and taking the people over. Right.
And it's true because corn used to be this, this big, a corn cob was like this big. It was the head
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of like a grass because it's a type of grass. Right. But, and now it's like, it has grown so
big. I mean, it is not real. And, uh, and everybody wants to eat it and then everybody
is sick as a side effect. And then they want it. So this brings me to Ben, you were asking,
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we were talking about something. I asked you to ask me a question about health and healing. Right.
What did I say?
Ask me what?
I can't remember which question you're referring to.
If something's even happening to us.
Is it happening to us?
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Is something happening to us?
Is someone doing something to us?
Or are we allowing it?
Right?
So everything in life is happening for us, friends.
The universe is at our service.
It is doing everything for us.
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Nothing's happening to you.
Everything's happening for you.
If you're choosing, I want people to know you are so free.
You can even choose bondage.
Yeah, it's crazy to think about that.
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And just it's the more you dig into how corrupted everything has become and how confused everyone is and how people have really just been tricked into going against their nature and really defending this anti-nature way of living and thinking is the healthiest.
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and it's so hard to dig them out of that because they built such an emotional bond with it because
you spend your whole life being told these things over and over it's really just a repetition game
and combined with the fallacy of authority we're told by these people in lab coats on tv
that this is true this is true this is true over and over and over we're told by the books in school
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which are created by the same people it it just creates like the the agents of the matrix where
people just jump into action and go and like attack you on the internet for saying that you
know maybe we shouldn't inject ourselves with heavy metals and maybe we should not eat these
things that are completely man-made and go back to what what actually has all the vitamins and
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what we've been eating for our entire existence the things that just make sense are the most
triggering to people and it's
triggering crazy how that
happens.
Triggering is a professional psychological term for people who are brain control brainwashed and mind controlled So the the curriculum in school the programming on television like everyone is 1
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million percent brainwashed and mind controlled. And if you break out of that grip of the mind
control, well, then you're a conspiracy theorist because you're not supposed to think for yourself
because I mean, are you a narcissist or something, Ben? Like the nerve of you to think for yourself
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and take action, take correct action that feels good to you. Listen, friends, we, we have been
usurped by the corporatocracy. So what does that even mean? You have a bunch of folks right now.
They're really confused about a lot of things, Ben, but what it comes down to,
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this freedom that all the young people are seeking, like, where does that come from?
It comes from you being a living man on the land and soil.
i i would love to pivot into like the farming side of things because i know that that is something
that you're you're super into and that really ties in all of this the government stuff as well like
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the overreach yes the the natural way versus unnatural way where did niti the pharmacist
come in how is that a part of your story where the farming got involved and you really started
building that as part of your brand. Right. So what happened was that I was being told that
I was making claims that I was operating illegally because I was selling meat and milk
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and everything that's raw and unadulterated and uninspected by the corporatocracy.
well guess what i don't need the government to waste energy i mean they're not even the
real government let's just start with they're the de facto government why because they're only
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government by popular consensus they're not government by the truth and the fact that we
are the people are the government. Okay. The problem is that there is a popular consensus
of folks who believe that they are the government when they're really the subcontractors. This false
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belief is why they have power at all, which is why I said to you, are we giving away our power
or are they making us do something? They're not doing anything to us that we don't allow.
And they didn't do, they tried to make me comply with them.
What they wanted me to do is to have a meat handler's license.
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And they wanted to come and make me operate under this meat handler's license.
And they wanted to regulate me.
And then they wanted to tell me that all the eggs that I sold had to be washed in chlorine
water to be clean.
They wanted all the milk to be pasteurized so that it was clean and safe.
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And all the meat had to come through the USDA and the FDA inspections to be safe.
And I was like, no, I don't agree with you.
Because my farms can process chickens on the land and it's cleaner and better than anything
you can do industrially.
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Anything.
And so polyface is an example of that, right?
If you, if anybody wants to go watch the 12 million videos about Joel Soliton and polyface
farms and all the ways that they process the birds on the land, then you can go take 50
million different video classes from, you know, Joel and, or Daniel and learn about how
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that is more efficient, how it is cleaner, how it is safer. And do you know, shockingly,
since 2009, I've been doing this since 2009 and we have never made anyone sick ever with our food.
Never. Not once. In all of these many years, it's 2025 right now. I started in 2009 and in all of
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these years, people only get healthier and better and bigger and stronger. And they re-reverse
autoimmune conditions. We reverse all the disease. We reverse all the suffering. People still die
because guess what? You were born dying. Like you're going to die. Okay. We're not saying you're
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not going to die. What we're saying is you don't have to suffer. You know, man, for me, my goal in
this life is to run. And then one day I just dropped dead. If you ever hear that I just dropped
dead one day, I want you to be so happy for me because that was what I wanted. I don't want to
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be in diapers. I don't want somebody like taking care of me. I don't want anyone feeling like they
are encumbered by my ailments or whatever. I want to run with my grandchildren and play with everybody
and then just drop dead one day.
Like, I want to just one day not wake up.
And then y'all just be like, oh, crap, she's just dead.
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Isn't that the best way to go?
Isn't that kind of how it used to be?
I mean, I haven't studied statistics on how death used to be a long time ago.
But what I do know is that, like, when we had these ancient warrior classes,
the the frontline generals and the most badass of the whole group were like in their 60s 70s 80s
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the ones that were most experienced because their bodies weren't falling apart like they are now
they had lots of experience and they're still strong so at the very least we were very vital
much further into old age than now it seems like now we're just keeping people alive as long as
possible and they're not really living in those those final decades listen if all you're gonna do
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is work until you retire. And then your entire retirement is just you sitting in front of a
television set because you can't even get on a plane or get on a train or walk out the door
to go outside and experience life. Is that what we're trying to get you guys to do with your life?
I mean, like good grief. I mean, my, my babies are not allowed to go to college and people think
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I'm nuts. Oh, you don't want to educate them. Oh, you don't want them to have friends. Oh,
they're missing out on these experiences. I mean, what experience are you talking about?
Like you want me, I'm depriving them of going and learning how to get drunk and party and drop off
and just, I mean, I don't really know what it is that you think that they're missing out on.
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You mostly nailed it for my experience.
Right. I'm like, my, my babies are working with farmers, working on the land with people,
learning that they can live for free on land that they own and just work when they want to
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spend a month in on, on holiday somewhere else. Like they just want to make enough money to go
and be able to go somewhere on an adventure and immerse themselves in somewhere else,
wherever it is, anywhere on the world, and just anywhere on this globe, just pick a place
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and just go there, immerse themselves in that for like a month, run out of money, come back home.
And then guess what?
Just make more money again.
Start over.
Isn't it?
Wouldn't that be the way to go?
That really, I mean, that's the way it used to be.
You know, the modern educational system is a brand new experiment.
And I think you're totally right that this, the very least needs to be normalized as an option.
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And as you're saying, as I would probably agree, is that after that, we can talk about, oh, this is actually like this should be the default.
is where you actually don't waste a bunch of years just being indoctrinated by a bunch of
nonsense the details of which we've been talking about throughout this like pretty much everything
whether it be health stuff or history all of it is just totally made up lies and it's getting
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people pulled back and put in on the wrong direction not just slowing them down so it is
really interesting just the whole educational side of things that's definitely a topic i want to
dive into specifically on the podcast because i mean every single rabbit hole ties back to that
because you just learn about how much even these well-respected institutions in fact are the worst
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offenders of just lying to people and i went to very nice college and i i went back to visit it
recently and walked around just saw the people walk around their backpacks and i just know man
they're going to class to learn some some bullshit that's not true right now because i remember when
I was taught still this definitely didn't help me, you know, improve my life at all.
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I had to figure it out myself years after that as I unlearned all of that stuff.
And it's good for you getting them on the farm, working and, you know, learning how nature and food and health works, because that should be the true foundation that everyone starts with.
Yes. And I mean, are they 100 percent gung ho about it?
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because no, because other young people their age are doing all the things, right? And they just
feel like, oh, they're doing all this stuff. I go, you're glamorizing their suffering
because you're trapped in a room all day long and you're not. So my son is 21. All right. So he is,
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he says, well, I can see what you mean, but I don't think that's how it is in the world.
And he, because he thinks that we're trying to maybe feather his nest too much.
And we were like, no, we're asking, we asked you if you guys wanted to invest in land with us.
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And they did.
And we've been putting all the money towards the land and we're shopping for land.
We're going to build a healing center and we should have land by the end of this year.
Like it's just been a process of trying to find the right land.
And once you start looking for land, then you learn more about what you don't want every
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time you find a piece of land.
And I mean, I've had a lot, I've been very fortunate to have lots of people in my scope
who have a lot of experience with land that can help us in discerning what would be a
a good appropriate piece of land versus not or whatever, at least for our level of experience.
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And I was telling him, I said, you just need to learn how to do things.
This is what I say to everybody.
I encourage you all, like you need to know how to be an electrician and a plumber and
a carpenter, and you need to collect skills like based.
ball cards because you just need to know how to do things. You need to be the doer, whether it's
doing this podcast, whether it's broadcasting journalism, whether it is writing a newspaper
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article, whether it is creating art. I mean, make something, do something, do different things.
Many people are artists and also scientific and also musical. Have a lot of these enterprises
in your back pocket to do different things and layer your enterprise incomes, this is how you're
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going to make it. And if you are able to do that and put it into land you can own, then the next
thing would be come take some of our law classes. I would help you try to own the land actually,
because once you're tax-free on the land, then you really own it, right? That's the whole different
conversation that we would want to have later. When the regulators came to me, Ben, and they're
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like, you got to do this and you got to do that. I'm like, no, thank you. So this is what happened.
I have my food church. I'm selling the meat. It is my market, my education, my food church,
where I'm educating the people how to use the medicine for them to gain health. Right.
But they say, they, the North Carolina Department of Agriculture, the FDA, the USDA, all of these people, they think, the does, right?
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They think that I am making claims, like commercial claims.
And I'm like, no, I'm teaching them the truth.
And they're experiencing the truth, which is why they come back.
They don't come back because I am lying to them and I've sold them a bag of lies.
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No, they're coming back because they're experiencing the truth and they're experiencing the healing.
I have people who were in wheelchairs with MS and now they're walking and you wouldn't know who they were.
That is reality.
Okay.
And so I'm not making any claims.
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they are making their own experiences reality. Okay. And so the, when the NCDA and all these
guys come to me and they're like, okay, well you need us to inspect your freezers. I'm like, no,
thank you. No, thank you. And they say, well, then we're shutting you down. And I'm like,
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um, I don't think so. You're the government, right? And they're like, yeah, which they're not.
Okay. But that's what they think. And I'm like, okay, well, you're here to protect the people,
right? And they're like, yeah, we're here to make sure everything's safe. Okay, great. Guess what?
I'm the people. You work for me and I am excusing you. Thank you so much for your service. It is
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not needed here. You should go to the Purdue plant down the street or go out to Smithfield
where they're KFO and all this pork, but I don't need you here. Thank you. Have a great day.
And they're like, Whoa, wait, you have to let me, and I'm like, listen, I don't understand
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the words that are coming out of your mouth. So now I'm going to have to ask you to leave
and whatever you're trying to say to me, because these are all spells and incantations, friends,
Whatever they're saying, I need you to put it in writing.
And if you can put it in writing and give it to me, I will be happy to respond in writing.
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And outside of that, bye-bye, bye-bye.
Like, I don't entertain solicitors.
To which, these are legal terms, friends.
Solicitation.
They're soliciting you for business because they want to make money on you.
And guess what?
We don't have to participate.
Now, there's a bunch of people out there trying to say, oh, you should do a PMA.
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Oh, you should do a da-da-da.
No, as long as you are incorporating in all of these various ways, you are limited.
PMAs can only serve 500 customers.
So if you only want to serve 500 people, then go right ahead.
Also, why?
Also, I am free as a living woman to go and serve other living men and women in any way
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that I want, whenever I want.
and you can't make me not do that. Why? Because I am standing up free. I'm alive. I have infinite
regenerative energy and I can keep going more than the energizer bunny. Isn't that incredible?
So I create all the worth, all the value. We are the value. You are the value. We create value.
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They don't have any value without us.
They are dead corporations that are chasing us for money.
They are worshiping the idolatry of money.
The dollar bill is from, you know, a graven image.
It is a graven image from the plates, the money plates that press on it and print the
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fake fiat currency.
Okay.
That graven image is what people are worshiping.
This is lies.
You are the value.
There's nothing without you.
Like just five minutes ago, we were trading beads and feathers.
Okay.
We can figure out a way to trade anything we want.
We're having an energy exchange right now, me and you, Ben.
Like we are creating value for each other.
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It's priceless.
So if you don't believe that, then maybe that's not true for you.
I don't know.
But it's true for most of us that are alive.
Like the ones of us that are real and alive, we know, right?
We can, we can know that this is true.
So that's the reason why I don't have to try to convince people to come get real food.
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They just know.
And when they get it, they know immediately, oh, this is the real deal.
Oh, this makes me feel different.
There's no sales pitch going on.
They can quit.
They can leave anytime they want.
It's the experience where, look at where you're at.
what is that experience like? Can you buy that? Like on, you know what I mean? Like
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we can watch it with you, but it's not the same as what you're experiencing, right?
I love all of that. And I'm going to take a sip of my raw kefir,
which I got from the farmer's market before I asked the sex part.
Delicious, unpasteurized goodness. I mean, I'm so excited because there are so many people out
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there who are just waking up to this stuff thanks to places like social media and podcasts and
hearing people like yourself talk about is real human experiences of how you're trying to heal
people and at the same time we're in this situation where the people's respect for authority has never
been lower there's a lot of npcs out there still but the ones that are starting to wake up are
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figuring out that we really need to come back to real people that are creating really real value
for others and there's no better example of that than a regenerative farm who's you know doing
things the right way has very happy loving animals and is just creating healing food for people so
is there more to that story because what happened with the bank accounts like oh yeah i'm assuming
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it didn't end as soon as you told them to f off it should have ended but you know that's not how
government works. They don't like to be told to go away when they're doing nothing of value for
anybody. They just keep coming. Right. Well, that's a different situation altogether. So it's
fascinating how people are made to believe the only way that you can legally be in business.
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Well, maybe it's true for legalities. I'm not legally in business. I am lawfully in business.
There's a difference between law and legalities.
Okay.
You and I can have a whole podcast just about that, but it's important for people to know
how the law works.
So you've heard of Noah's Ark.
You've heard of the great flood.
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You know, everything in the Bible is metaphorical.
The Bible stories are metaphors and the Geneva Bible, not the King James version,
which is the godless Bible, but the Geneva Bible, like if you go back to 1500, okay,
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that Bible was the Bible that our forefathers used, the Patriot Bible. There's actually something
out there called a Patriot Bible. This Bible is a law book. It's teaching you the law. And
currently you have the water flooding the land. So you have all the water flooding the land
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because it's taken over the land jurisdiction. You have water jurisdiction that's taken over
the land jurisdiction. And that is what is going on. The corporate, all this corporate law,
the legalities that everyone's dealing with and facing,
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they're all water jurisdiction.
They're outside of their jurisdiction here on the land.
So why was I able to say to them when they come to me and they want to inspect
me and I'm like, no, thank you.
You outside of your jurisdiction You have to give me something in writing I do not entertain solicitors And they never give me anything in writing Ben Why Because they have no authority
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over me and they know it. Now, were these people specifically like feds or local sheriffs or what
was their... USDA. I stood up against the NCDA, the USDA, the FDA, and the CDC,
all of whom are private corporations.
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How can they be a private corporation in what you consider a government?
Why are you believing that your private government,
your lawful government would be incorporated?
Do you know that they're not supposed to be incorporated?
Well, because everybody doesn't seem to know that.
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if you know that the government should not be incorporated what is going on right now with
trump what is he doing he's settling the bankruptcy what is this doge thing going on
and and why is this relevant i'm bringing it up ben because i'm trying to shake it up i'm trying
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to push you into corners here i'm pushing you into corners here because you're very intelligent
and so are the people who listen to you, okay?
You guys are so smart.
I want you to pay attention to what I'm saying
and prove me wrong, okay?
Doge, currently what they're doing
is they're auditing all of the offices,
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all of the government offices, right?
Because they're having to do that
because that's what happens in a bankruptcy settlement.
Hello?
Hello?
How can the IRS be bankrupt?
Oh, wait a minute. That would mean they're incorporated.
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Hold on, but they're not supposed to be incorporated because it's the government.
Oh, so they're not the government? No, they're not the freaking government. You're giving money
to criminals who are incorporated and who you don't owe anything. Well, then how do they come
and get me? I mean, I haven't paid taxes in years. We could talk about that. You want to talk about
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that? You want to talk about all this other stuff? I mean, how much of a raise would you have if you
just weren't paying tax? Did you know that it's called federal income tax? Did you know that? So
Ben, what federal income do you earn? I would say zero. Okay. Then why are you paying any taxes?
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Good question. I mean, you might want to read the form that says
your federal income, blah, blah, blah. If you don't earn any federal, read the back of the W-4,
friends. Read it. It is asking you to declare. You know how, have you ever traveled internationally?
Well, obviously you're not in Oregon right now, right? You're not on Oregon. You've left the
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country. So when you left and when you're moving around, they ask if you want to declare
anything, right? They are asking you to declare. So what are you declaring? I'm bringing back a
banana plant. No, you're not. I'm bringing back a rum bottle. Oh, okay, great. Because they can
regulate alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. That is the only thing they can regulate. Everything that
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they arrest anybody for, it goes all the way back to alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. Everything's
under agriculture. Isn't that funny? Why? Because we're living, we're alive. If they want to come
after us and they want to invoke and say that we've broken some law or something, it has
to all go under that.
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But we have unalienable rights, not inalienable rights, unalienable because we're living men
and women.
We can't be leaned on.
You can't financially lean us.
We're unalienable.
Am I getting your attention yet?
Because I'm hitting the money points.
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Okay, let me know when I start breaking through and you can comprehend what I'm saying.
Because otherwise, everybody's eyes are rolling in the back of their head.
Okay, but if you are unalienable and they're trying to make you believe that you're unalienable
or inalienable rights, what does that even mean?
Unalienable means you can't lean me.
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They can't come after me.
You know what they said to me, Ben?
I had the NCDA trying to inspect me.
I told him no. I walked him to the street and we had a big standoff for like a freaking hour.
And every single time that they come to inspect me, I make them go stand on the street and we
have a standoff until they freaking leave. It always takes over an hour. Okay. It's always,
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it's just a standoff because they want me to do something. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not
going to contract with them. I'm not going to agree with them. And they have to intimidate me
and make me feel like I have to comply. I do not comply. I do not comply. I do not comply.
I do not comply. Why? Because that's a lie. I'm not going to lie. Do you want to lie?
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Are you politically correct? No. Political correctness is permission to lie. I am not
politically correct because I'm not going to lie. Bearing false witness goes against the law
of the land. It goes against the Bible, the biblical laws, right? All of the biblical laws
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are for business. Jesus was trying to get us out of Babylon. What was Babylon?
Jesus said, do not go into their courts.
This is about banking friends.
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This is about business.
This is about business.
Blackbeard, all the pirates, they knew about commercial law.
They knew about British and Admiralty law.
They knew about land law.
They knew about maritime law.
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our courts the way that the courts work this is not something to debate friends this is this is
reality i can't make up how the courts work you have to comprehend that courts the way they
operate how do they operate what is happening it's all based on jurisdiction
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when we won the revolutionary war it was a land war we didn't have a navy
we didn't have a navy that that war was won on the land and since then we have been at peace and
we have never had a war since then only mercenary conflicts after that including the civil war which
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was not a actual war that was a mercenary conflict in which we were usurped by abraham lincoln who
was an attorney. If our business is unincorporated, if our government is unincorporated, why would you
ever have an attorney as a president? The only time an attorney is the president is in an
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incorporated business. That is the business of the U.S.USA, United States of America, or the U.S.
government. And just remember something else. You don't want to be a U.S. citizen.
You want to be a national. Why? Because you're an Oregonian and I'm a North Carolinian.
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You don't go around saying, you know, people are getting upset because there's,
if you look up American state nationals, then it has been deemed bad. They're getting it confused
with sovereign citizen, by the way, is an oxymoron and all these other oxymorons because
citizen is representative of, um, of a slave, but also a citizen means someone who is beholden
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to their government.
And our American tradition, like meaning like our law, lawful tradition, meaning like the
law of the land, we don't have any obligation to serve the government.
At birth, we are born and then we volunteer to serve if we want to.
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And they they don't want you to know the truth, because if you knew the truth, you would know that you can't be drafted.
That is unlawful and illegal.
Yeah, I think a lot more people are starting to think that way, too.
I mean, whether it's around the taxes or around the military side.
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I remember before I was even born, back when drafts were a thing, many decades before I was born, probably when you were young, it was really looked down upon if you avoided the draft or did something to avoid it.
And it was scorned and it was shameful.
But now, if a draft comes out tomorrow and says, hey, guys, you're going to go blow up Iran for Israel.
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Who wants to sign up and die for Israel?
I don't think a lot of people are going to be going for it.
And I think it's going to be a point of pride to say, fuck that.
I'm not going.
Right.
So the reason that you caught up legally, though, let me just tell you why.
So the point that moment when that happens then you need to make sure you not a white man and that you are a Oregonian You have to have a nationality And if you notice it very difficult for you to apply
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to do anything without saying that you're a man or a woman and, oh, sorry, not a man or a woman.
It's a male or a female.
Those are corporate terms, male and female.
They don't say man and woman.
If they said man and woman, it would be fine, but they don't.
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They say male and female.
Those are corporate terms.
And so if you say that you're a male or a female or white or black or Asian or Latino or whatever,
Whatever those five things are, they only let you have like five or six of them, right?
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They have 72 genders, supposedly, which is bullshit.
But even with all of that, they don't have it on a form.
Even with all of that, they're trying to make this go.
You heard about that congressional hearing where they were asked to define a woman.
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Do you know what I'm talking about?
And they couldn't define a woman.
about that. Yeah. Because there's no legal definition for woman. This is about law.
This is about our court system. This is about the, how the courts of the world work.
Okay. And they will fully operate in this. Okay. They fully operate in it. You know,
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about the Hague, you know, about the Geneva conventions, right?
everyone knows what I'm talking about the Geneva Convention is a water jurisdiction convention
the Hague is a land jurisdiction convention or I might have had that backwards I gotta ask Anna
I I know one is land and one is water jurisdiction I hope I'm not messing that up
and but like all the Paris treaties are water jurisdiction treaties all the Versailles treaties
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There's many of them.
They're all land jurisdiction treaties.
All right.
All these different treaties that you've ever heard of, they're all in various jurisdictions.
This is law.
This is how the court system works.
And when you're saying that someone or something is oppressing us, it is, this is business,
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friends.
This is the law.
How did I free myself from the, listen to what I'm saying.
How did I free myself from the CDC and the FDA and the USDA?
They said I was a self-proclaimed governing body.
And Ben, when they told me that, I was offended.
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In the beginning, I was offended because I didn't know all of this about the law.
Okay.
I didn't know about all this stuff with the courts.
I was like, no, I'm not. I'm, I'm a good girl. I, I really, you know, I'm doing all the good
things. I'm not doing anything bad. I'm not a narcissist. Right. I was like, wait a minute.
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Um, I'm, you know, that's, you're saying that I'm not trying to do good things because you're
saying I'm illegal, right? But I was lawful. I am. Everything I do is illegal because it's lawful.
You know how Joel Soliton wrote that book, Everything I Want to Do is Illegal?
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I love that title. It's great.
I need to write a book that says everything I do is illegal. I am the living law.
and everything I do is illegal because it's lawful. I don't need to be legal. I'm not trying
to do anything legally. When they're telling me that I'm a self-proclaimed governing body,
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it's actually an award. I should have kept that paper, but I was so offended
at that time because I didn't know all of the laws. I didn't understand the court system.
I was like, how am I winning? Look, I was the first speaker at Joel Soliton's Rogue Food Conference,
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the very first Rogue Food Conference he ever did. I was the first one. And then after that,
everybody wanted me to teach them how to operate Rogue. And then Mark Baker and I were the most
Rogue. And Mark Baker says, I'm offended that he called me Rogue. I'm not Rogue. I served this
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country for over 25 years. He's former military. He's like, I'm not rogue. I'm standing on my
Bill of Rights. Well, what I'm trying to say is we wrote the Bill of Rights into our Constitution
that we stand over. We stand under the Declaration of Independence courageously, like the lion
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who wants, we have the courage and the heart and the brain right over here as living men and women.
Okay. And so we declared to the King, no, we are declaring ourselves free of you, right?
That's the declaration of independence. That's what the Rockefellers never wanted you to figure
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out is that you stand under the declaration of independence and over all three constitutions.
because the first constitution is for the federal government.
The second one is for the British territorial Navy that we hired.
And the Papel municipal one was for the post office
because that Pony Express was just not good enough.
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And the Pope owns the post office, which is what?
A court and a bank.
Okay, if you get to a crossroads
and there is a post office, like a postal worker,
ambulance, a fireman and a policeman,
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who has the right of way?
Who?
The postman.
The postal worker has the highest authority.
I think I'm just exploding everybody's brain out there.
I want you guys to come back and ask me questions.
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I really, really do.
I want you to go out and look up everything.
Don't believe anything I said, because I'm a crazy woman.
But seriously, I want you to pay attention to this.
And I want you to research it and tell me that I'm wrong.
I want you to go.
I challenge all the virologists out there to go find me a virus because no one has ever
been able to show me one yet.
I want you.
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I challenge you to find it.
Find one and bring it to me.
and when you can just bring me these few things,
show me how the court system is not operating in the way that I'm telling you
right now.
Just bring it to me.
And you know,
like a lot of folks would say,
well,
I just hate the Pope.
Well,
no,
I don't.
No,
I don't.
But to be the Pope,
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you have to be a Christian.
And Pope Francis is a self-proclaimed safe Satanist.
Pope Benedict was the last real Pope.
And he actually,
taught the living men and women how to break the chains of this bondage and gave us the knowledge
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on how to bankrupt them, which is the reason why Trump is currently settling this bankruptcy.
So you would want to learn more about that. How did Pope Benedict give the living men
and women the knowledge to break free of the chains of slavery? How did he do that?
and why did Pope Francis go against him?
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I'm sure that either Francis is dead
or maybe he's fake and phony.
We don't know.
How can we know?
They have AI and all this other stuff.
I mean, how can we really know what's going on, right?
Look, me and you can't really know if we're real
until we see each other one day.
I think Kate was trying to meet with you, right?
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Like, so I always encourage everybody come to Raleigh, North Carolina and visit me.
Or, you know, I always look forward to meeting people at different places because when you
get to meet people in the flesh, then you can really feel their energy and just know
that they're alive and that they're real.
So I would love to, I've never been in North Carolina.
That would be super cool.
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And I think that's a good setup for sort of my, my final question here.
just because I know there's so many people out there that are looking to get more into regenerative farming and creating their own food and being part of their local community or really bootstrapping one by becoming that food provider, which, you know, is such a critical part and always has been such a critical part of every single community.
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what is your message to those people that feel like it just sounds too hard or there's too much
red tape to get through or it's going to be too much work what do you think about the people right
now who are considering doing this and what do you see as the future of that regenerative industry
regenerative farming is the future and it is our past it is the truth is what it is and just like the Wizard of Oz you have to have a brain and a heart and you have to have
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courage and you need to know how to stand on your square with the law.
And if you want to know how to do it, then come see me.
I work with a lot of former military.
It is my greatest joy to help bring home our former military that have been abused as cheap
mercenaries. And that was never what they were supposed to be doing and not how they were
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supposed to be serving. And our sons and daughters have been violated. And I, you know, Joel Soliton's
mission is to make regenerative agriculture white collar. And, you know, Alan Savory's mission
was to teach everyone that the land can regenerate and how to regenerate it using livestock,
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Like you have to have animals to have plants.
And my mission is to save the babies and to stop the interference in nature.
So everything I'm doing as a mother, everything I'm wanting to help you all do is how to operate
freely, 100% in your full power.
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I want you to be able to shed your slave self and walk back into your full power.
And I want to do anything and everything that I can to help you do it.
So that's my mission.
That's amazing.
And where can people go to find your work, your book, your contact info,
if they were to want to connect with you for help on these things?
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So farm2forkmeatriot.org is the website.
Farm2Fork Meat Riot is my book title as well.
you can purchase the book there if you want you can purchase it on polyface
you might be able to still get it on amazon um i i don't know if you still can or not but um
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i'm pretty shadow banned everywhere i'm not really i'm i have neithy the pharmacist on instagram
barely they got me blocked to death i'm on youtube as well um but if you go to my website
farm2forkmeatriot.org
and you contact me through the website
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you will definitely reach me there.
Fantastic.
I will make sure to include
all of that information in the description
so people can go find you
and more of your work.
It's been an absolute pleasure
talking with you today, Neetha.
I really appreciate you coming by.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me, Ben.
And I look forward to speaking
with you again someday.
And I especially would want to
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maybe talk to you
once we get our healing center set up
because that is going to be
really, really. Wait, I want to hear more about that actually before we leave. So what, what is
your vision for this? Like, tell me more about your healing center. This is very interesting.
And you know, I've had other people come on this, this podcast talking about, you know, they,
they have the same dream. They want to create a place of healing for people to come in and just
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get better. So, so what is your vision for yours? Yeah. So our healing center, we're looking for a
a good amount of acreage because I want people to come and escape and immerse themselves in healing.
For many years, all the years that I've been doing the food church here,
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people are like, I wish I could just come live with you.
Like maybe if we just spent a summer with you, we would learn how to eat properly.
A lot of people want to come and stay with me and detox.
talks and then like they want to come. And I had one lady who had an autistic son that I worked with
and, uh, we were reversing on his seizures. And she says, I really just wish I could just come
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live with you. Like she was, she's like, I will sell my house and come and live with you and then
move out and, and, and buy something in a, in a way, in a place that would be better for my son.
She said the whole time that we would be resetting at your place, I would be looking for a place to
go afterwards to, you know, help my son. And I thought, wow. I mean, she wasn't the one,
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only one that said that to me. Many people asked me and my husband for that. And we finally are
like, okay. I mean, my kids were very small. There's a lot going on. Now I finally feel like
we're in a position where we can poise ourselves to really help people do that. And I mean, I needed
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way more knowledge with the law too, because it truly was daunting because I was constantly
feeling oppressed. But now that they've declared that I'm a self-proclaimed, you know, governing
body, they recognize me as a real American who has the freedom to do whatever. And they don't,
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they can't come bother me anymore. They know they have no jurisdiction over me.
And so I would be able to powerfully heal people at our place because they won't be able to bring food in from outside.
We would check them in the way you check into a rehab center.
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We'll go through your luggage and make sure you're not bringing some weed in because it's more powerful than heroin.
And you have to be able to detox to be able to reset.
up. And we want it to be a loving environment and an active environment. So we would have
activities and also a lot of flat roofs because you have to lay in the sun. You have to allow the
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time in the sun. And that's a big deal. So there would be a lot of sunning, a lot of movement,
a lot of meditation, you know, but you have to take action behind that.
And so we would be teaching them how to cook. They might be preparing their own meals,
you know, but they would be limited on how they can prepare their meals because it would be
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limited to what we have there. Right. And just living off the land. And that would just be the
rules for that. And, you know, look, I told my husband, I go, worst case scenario, it is a
destination where people just come and they reset for a week or something. Best case scenario,
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like that woman and her son could come and spend a summer, learn how to live properly. And, you know,
really, we can really help them, support them. Because a lot of these kids, when they first
start seizing and having a lot of these issues, the parents just need somewhere for them to go
to get help. And they don't want to go to the hospital, but they don't know how to do this at
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home. And I don't know how to help them in my house. Like, you know, it's, it's like, I have
to have a space for that. So I want to be able to have the space for that. And then let's just see
what the people need, because it's going to be whatever the people need. Like I said, best case,
it's a resort, a detoxification resort, worst case scenario, which means that we're actually
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helping the sick people. They're coming, they're learning how to reset because they should be able
to come live there as a family and learn how to live the lifestyle and then go back to whatever
they're doing. For a lot of people, it could just mean that they come immerse themselves
for one week, four times a year. It's better than being in a hospital, right? So that's my vision.
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everything's better than the hospital unfortunately it's probably the worst place you could go when
you're sick is which is just so backwards it is it's really really upsetting and sad and but yeah
we would be incorporating so we will be immersing everybody in you know circadian reset you know
it'll be one million percent carnivore based you know um yes we will have uh regenerative livestock
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on the land. We're not going to a hundred percent focus as a farm as much as it is going to be about
having the best food, you know. And I'm partnered with real farmers who are regenerative, who
that'll just be promoting their farms. And we will also have a restaurant on site because we'd be
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feeding everybody anyway. Right. So like, why wouldn't we have a restaurant? So anybody local
would be able to come through like a day spa situation.
And we will serve local people in that way
and let them have that experience.
Let them come shop, let them come eat
while there are actually people
who are staying on the land healing and resetting.
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And hopefully using it as a demonstration to repeat it
because we need healing centers everywhere.
the the corporatocracy has really done a number on everybody and we're gonna need i mean there's
no competition we we just can't have enough of these places so it is my encouragement for
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everyone to come and copycat whatever it is that we do and repeat it you know yeah i love it that's
super cool super awesome that you're doing that and i can't wait to hear for more updates on that
But there can't be too many healing centers on earth right now.
We need real good ones to get people back on our feet and inspire them to do things like this themselves and really empower themselves and their families.
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So amazing work.
Super excited for more of that.
And Nithya, it's been an absolute pleasure.
Thank you so much for coming.
We'll be in touch.
Thank you so much, Ben.
I appreciate you.