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Anthony Smith is the COO of EMF Safe, a company dedicated to providing tools that will help you lower EMF exposure in your bedroom, your house, and your life.

In this discussion, we talk about WHY you should care about EMF exposure, and the best way to lower it in your daily routine.

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(00:00):
diseases that were rare in 70 and 80 year olds a few years ago are now common in 30 and 40 year olds

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why
what's changed in culture what's changed in society measure understand mitigate and mend
I don't care if it's food colorings, food additives, vaccines, anything man-made, anything synthetic, man-made EMFs.

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Reduce your exposure.
Unload your camel.
All right, everyone.
Thank you so much for coming by for another episode of the Ben Werman podcast.
We have today Anthony Smith.
He is the COO at EMF Safe, which is a company focused on both educating and providing solutions to this new health rabbit hole of electromagnetic frequencies, which more and more people are figuring out are not good for us little meatbag humans having all these crazy currents running all over the place that are not natural.

(01:10):
So we've done a couple episodes on this in the past, but I'm really excited to bring it back.
It's been a little while.
This is an important one for people.
So Anthony Smith, thank you for coming by, man.
You're very welcome.
And thank you for inviting me.
Good to chat with you.
So I first heard of you when I was going through and listening to Tristan Scott's podcast, Decentralized Radio.

(01:32):
I had him on here a while ago as well.
He gave me the rundown on all the electromagnetic frequency stuff.
And I would love to hear your take.
And we love to get a good story here.
So how did you even get into this?
What's your backstory?
Where did you come from?
How did you get into really focusing on EMFs as your main priority?

(01:55):
Many years ago, at college, I studied hotel keeping, catering, administration.
And part of that course, we had to study health and nutrition because some of us might be going into industrial catering and hospitals and institutional places like that.
So I got interested in health and nutrition all those years ago and have maintained an interest in it ever since.

(02:20):
Obviously, been through the whole potions and lotions, the vitamins and all the things that we all have been through in years gone by.
And they still have a place in health and nutrition.
I do think that vitamins packaged by nature in the food that we eat is the primary way to get those.
But that's a whole nother story.

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but from that i i've always been interested and looked at alternative um health uh things that
have been available um using vibration and frequency the rife machine and things like that
have always been interesting to me and um certainly they were getting results that traditional medicine

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didn't seem to be able to get and um maybe because of the opposition against them by
the the establishment caused me to be even more interested in them so that led to
kind of got into red light therapy there for a while that were at the time there weren't really

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any devices out there or the choice was extremely limited and I started making I found out that the
security
that are used for infrared lenses around the center center center in the middle.

(03:46):
And they put out infrared cameras that the camera can see.
When you have a warehouse and they've got infrared cameras in them,
they floodlight a place with infrared light.
Excuse me. Sorry for my voice.
Turns out that that frequency that they use is 850 nanometers,
which is exactly the same frequency that the very expensive at the time red light devices were using.

(04:06):
So I started buying security lights and making up infrared panels for people at a fraction of the cost.
And also incorporating grow lights, which are full spectrum lights that incorporated infrared and UV.
because all of this thing, all of these light frequencies are considered part of the EMF

(04:29):
broader spectrum. So this all ties in with EMF as well. But the light that we receive from the sun
is full spectrum, but not just the visible light spectrum. It also incorporates 5% UV on one side
and 42% near infrared on the other side.

(04:50):
And it's that balance and blend
of all of those frequencies working together
that make natural sunlight,
full spectrum light works so well.
It's why plants need it.
They die if they don't have it.
It's why fish need it.
They die if they don't have it.
It's why reptiles need it.
They die if they don't have it.
Why do we humans think we can get away
without having full spectrum light?

(05:12):
So it's just not a matter of having
not avoiding emf electromagnetic frequencies we need electromagnetic frequencies natural god-given
emf from nature or we will die but it's important that we get the full spectrum and the man-made

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frequencies in isolation can actually cause a problem and they're not part of the solution
and they're part of the problem.
So infrared led into the whole non-native EMF investigation,
how light, how EMF, electromagnetic frequencies,

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how the electric fields that we're exposed to,
how the magnetic fields that we're exposed to included in that is radio frequency,
which is our TV, radio, cell phones, microwaves, that whole part of the spectrum.
and all of these man-made frequencies can do harm and damage and i think one of the

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um i you know words work for some people other people need visuals so this this is a a gauss
meter and as i hold this magnet up against it you can see i don't know if you can hear it but the
the light is flashing so when i hold this magnet away and spin the magnet

(06:37):
it throws out a magnetic field now I'm going to put this up against my back
so this magnetic field that magnetic field is going through my body through my heart and showing up

(07:00):
on the meter it's going through my brain well I could do the same thing with a with a cell phone
and an rf reading but i don't want to cook my pineal gland i don't want to cook my brain
but when we hold the phone up against our head those fields those frequencies just like the
magnetic field i just showed you is going through our body and that's why minimizing

(07:22):
the emf that we're exposed to is so important because on its way through
those electromagnetic frequencies interfere with the natural frequencies in our body our body runs
on dc voltage when you go to a doctor get an ekg or an eeg they're measuring the natural fields in

(07:43):
our body this is not harmful it's actually a dc field so it's not negatively interfering with my
body it actually can be very beneficial in breaking up energy you know if you've got a
sore muscle or something like that this can actually help to break up and re-establish the
actual flow of energy in your body so this is a magnet that's all it is right yeah yeah this is

(08:07):
a magnet yeah for people listening on audio it's like this little contraction where you just spin
a magnet and that's so interesting i never i didn't know that would actually create a field but
i've heard about this just recently that i mentioned tristan earlier his his podcast i saw him make a
post about the the best seat to sit in an airplane is actually the farthest away you can get from the

(08:29):
engines which i didn't know because the engine spinning super fast creates that magnetic field
you're talking about and that's not a good kind it's a huge one so it's saying basically you want
to be at the very back of the plane if possible as furthest away so that's very interesting
yeah so if you've got a a hair dryer or a fan that spinning magnet is throwing out a magnetic

(08:54):
field but that's how we make electricity we take magnets and we spin them to make that's a generator
that's an alternator in your car so even though a gas engine everybody thinks oh electric engines
are really bad actually some of them have very very low electric and magnetic fields just because
the way they're built and the way they're positioned but if you're sitting in a in a

(09:17):
gasoline car and the alternator is right down there in between between the front seats you know
in the engine well you're you're being bathed in a magnetic field the whole time the engine is running
so gasoline cars aren't in and of themselves necessarily better than electric cars and then
of course in the modern cars you add to that the the wi-fi and the bluetooth i mean it's bad enough

(09:41):
us having a cell phone on in the car with us i can i can put this on um airplane mode and where i live
out in the boonies i can get to the end of my driveway and and i'm out of range of a cell tower
and i basically on my rf meter got close to a zero reading i take this off of airplane mode

(10:05):
it goes up to 20 000 on on the scale so if you're in a modern car you've probably got the equivalent
of two three or four five cell phones on in the car part of the wi-fi the bluetooth and all the
systems that are running and so you're inside a metal box you're literally inside a microwave oven

(10:29):
with the microwave running because guess what frequency this runs on it's 2.4 gigahertz guess
what frequency bluetooth is it's 2.4 gigahertz guess what frequency the microwave oven is 2.4
gigahertz so you put on a bluetooth headset that broadcasting 2.4 gigahertz 2.4 gigahertz excuse me

(10:54):
there's no bone here it's all soft tissue those two headsets are talking to each other
you are literally microwaving your brain and i've got a photograph on my website with the
the meter in the middle and it's just taking an ambient reading of the rf in in that space
I then put the ear pods, take them out of the case, put them right down next to the meter on either side.

(11:21):
100x, not 100 percent. 100 percent is doubled.
100x greater radio frequency When you put those bluetooth headsets in so it not any one particular thing it everything collectively together emf is cumulative

(11:44):
nobody died of having a cigarette but 20 a day for 20 years that'll get you it's not the straw
that breaks the camel's back that's the problem everybody thinks the cell phone tower the smart
meter that was a straw that broke camel's back for them so they think that's the problem and what i

(12:05):
like to point out to people is that's not the problem the problem is the load on the camel in
the first place so if you unload your camel which is what we help you do we help you identify all
the sources of the non-native emf the harmful stuff we reduce your exposure we unload your camel
which means the cell phone tower down the street which you can do nothing about

(12:28):
probably might not be a problem anymore because the level of exposure that you now have
is 70 less than what it was which means adding a straw to the camel that's had 70
of the load removed it's not that big a deal so i'd use the enamel and the analogy of

(12:49):
a cigarette doesn't hurt anybody but 20 a day for 20 years you know 20 minutes on the phone may not
hurt you but 20 minutes a day for 5 10 15 20 years that you're cooking your brain so
being aware of these things and measuring them with with meters
identifying what the problem is and whether it's at a level that is of concern and if it is

(13:17):
reducing your exposure that's what we help you with we have the tools to empower you to equip you
to make an informed decision so that you can um not talk on the phone but hold it away from you
on speakerphone put a shield up between you and the phone so that when you're talking on it you're

(13:38):
not getting radiated because the signal which comes out from this thing 360 degrees is only
going that way not coming towards you because i've got a shield between me some cases you can buy do
this for you um so all these little tips and tricks added up together can make a big difference of
your overall exposure but the number one thing that we can do is create an emf mitigated sleep

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sanctuary so what that is is we identify the circuits in your bed in your bedroom that you're
exposed to because the electric field is the elephant in the room the e of emf the electric
field is the elephant in the room that 60 hertz frequency is interfering with your brain and your
body in a very very significant way because that's very very close to the frequency that your brain

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runs at and for you to go to sleep to get the deep dive into um you know restful sleep at night
your brain needs to drop down into alpha. Alpha waves are Schumann residents, but so you're between
8 and 12 hertz. But if you're laying in a vibrational frequency that's vibrating at 60

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times a second, that's major interference to the brain to get you down into that restful state of
sleep. And the 60 hertz also interferes with the pineal gland in the middle of your brain,
which is between those two bluetooth headsets being cooked and the pineal gland is responsible

(15:11):
for releasing melatonin which not only helps you sleep it's responsible for controlling
dozens if not hundreds of other mechanisms that are going on at night to help you heal
and detox and restore and recuperate so this is really really important stuff
And by reducing your exposure at night when we're significantly more sensitive to the effects of EMS, maybe 10 times, by creating a sleep sanctuary, you're actually reducing your overall exposure by about 70%.

(15:44):
And so that gives the body back all of that energy that it was using to fight the effect of EMS.
Now that it can use that energy to heal, to restore, to recoup, to recover, to detox.
and all of a sudden strangely enough when we help people create a sleep sanctuary
the symptoms start getting better whereas before they were barely hanging on to their health

(16:09):
or actually getting a little bit worse every day all of a sudden they start recovering we see big
big results i can give quite an interesting anecdote on that actually i lived in costa
Rica for a couple of months recently. And it was a bunch of friends in this really cool house where

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we were all very health oriented. We were all challenging each other to be super healthy and
do all these different things. And one of the things that I was dead set on being perfect on
was turning off the wifi every night. Cause I've always heard that that is very bad to have on at
nighttime. There's no reason to have it on. Those waves are going all through the house, through your
body and disrupting your sleep as you talked about. So I, I, every night I would turn that wifi

(16:53):
router off except one night i forgot it and i literally woke up in the middle of the night
for the only time on that entire trip i i woke up in the middle of the night and had a little
trouble getting back to sleep so i think this is a huge piece of people's sleep problems is that the
fact that these waves are everywhere and that was super interesting and something i love a little

(17:15):
bit more detail on you talked about how we know that the man-made frequencies and the nature given
frequencies are very different you said that was a 2.4 hertz or gigahertz that was the bad one the
microwave is it all just about the hertz level the frequency like how do we know which ones are good
which ones are bad yeah well the universe is full of um uh vibration and frequency so everything is

(17:43):
energy and or matter for that for that matter uh vibrating at different frequencies so just like
with sounds you can combine different sounds and they can be very harmonious very peaceful very
relaxing or you can add in one or two other notes and all of a sudden you've got this disharmony
a discord and it vibe it just grates on you know it just makes you feel really uncomfortable

(18:09):
um certain sounds certain rock songs will make people very agitated and very angry whereas other
other music you know baroque music you got classical music um prayer and meditation music
that helps you that has that frequency in it the alpha wave frequencies that helps your brain

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relax because the brain will synchronize with the sound coming from the music
to help you establish that restful state of being now if you can imagine listening to a beautiful
piece of prayer meditation music but you've got animal the drummer from sesame street

(18:51):
playing in the background that's really what we have going on with the natural frequency of the
planet which is schumann residence it actually varies throughout the day and throughout the year
uh between uh eight ish and 12 which is the alpha frequencies um i believe now it's up to about
12 on a regular basis so it does change and that affects us but when we at night

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our brains naturally synchronize with the heartbeat of the earth the human resonance
but if we've got this man-made 60 hertz and if you're watching in europe or somewhere else it
might be 50 hertz uh that frequency vibrating so those wavelengths are going through your brain

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through your body interfering with the natural systems our body runs on dc
those frequencies are ac alternating currents because it's vibrating dc is just one constant
stream whereas ac is a wave and the hertz because mr hertz invented uh you know discovered this um

(19:58):
is the is the the the vibration the frequency so 60 hertz is 60 times a second so a cell phone at
2.4 gigahertz is is what um millions of times a second um so why they microwave oven is 2.4 gigahertz

(20:20):
to cook our food why they use that for wi-fi why they use it for bluetooth i i have no idea
but these frequencies are very interfering and distracting to our body and you know so
as much as we can reduce them identify them find out what's there turn them off at night if you

(20:44):
can't turn it off then put up a screen between you and it and block it or move it as far away
from you as possible in an office you know you got the paper shredder down by your feet you've
You've got your printer there.
Put the printer six feet away.
Unplug the paper shredder.
You only use it once a week.
Put it on the other side of the room.
All of these are different ways that we can reduce our overall exposure.

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But nighttime is the number one thing.
You're laying in bed.
You've got a plug on one side.
You've got a plug on the other side.
And you've got multiple wires running through the wall.
They're 12 inches from your head.
Putting out a vibration, a frequency that travels six to eight feet.
so it's literally washing over your whole body but the schumann uh synchronizing with schumann

(21:28):
at night is a vital part of of us uh the healing process and um our biorhythms
and all of that stuff just work working properly
one of the things you just mentioned there that i didn't know until relatively recently is how

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even if you turn off the wi-fi and these things that you know are pumping out these frequencies
even just a wall outlet with something plugged into it is also pushing that out if an outlet
doesn't even have anything plugged into it is it still putting out frequencies or does it have
to have something plugged into it well you see that that's the thing we think of the outlet being

(22:12):
the problem it's not the outlet in and of itself that's the problem that that's just the wires
running through the wall and then you have outlets that you can access that that circuit
but the wire running through the wall is what the problem is it's putting out a field six to eight

(22:33):
feet the full length of that wire coming from the breaker panel in your house running through the
house all those wires you might have in a thousand square foot house you might have
half a mile to a mile of wires when you add up the positives and negatives and the grounds.
So all the positives and if you have an open circuit is flowing all the negatives are radiating out six to eight feet in all directions It not the outlet It the wire connecting all the outlets So by turning off that that why we need you just unplugging things in your bedroom

(23:10):
doesn't necessarily solve the problem
because the wire running through the wall
is where the field is coming from.
So by turning off the circuit at the wall
and we make the EMF safe cutoff switch,
which allows you to safely do that,
all you need to be concerned about
is the on off button by the side of your bed.
You push the button, it sends out a micro pulse,

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just like the key fob that you use to lock and unlock your car door.
It's not broadcasting all the time.
You hit the button, you kill the circuit.
The power from the breaker panel is completely disconnected.
You have no electric field.
You have no magnetic field.
You have no dirty electricity, because dirty electricity is an artifact,

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a harmonic or disharmonic of the 60 hertz if you've got any rf wi-fi bluetooth device plugged
into that circuit like the tv on the wall in the bedroom you're killing that so the biggest bang
for the buck the simplest the easiest and the safest way to reduce your daily exposure is

(24:16):
identify which circuits are affecting you in your bedroom you don't need to turn off the whole house
You don't need to turn off the kitchen or the heater or the security system necessarily.
Maybe some people, because of the way the house is wired, might need to do a little bit of rewiring.
But most of the time we don't. So you just identify the two, three, four circuits running through the bedroom.

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And one of those circuits, two of those circuits may have nothing to do with your bedroom.
But that was the shortest distance between A and B. It's the room next door and it's running right underneath your bed.
So sometimes, you know, if you've got an upstairs bedroom, you have to turn off the light circuit for the room underneath because obviously the lights in the ceiling are right underneath your bed.
So we might have to turn off that circuit.

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But that's why we use the body voltage meter.
You lay in the bed.
This has a ground cord on it, which goes into the ground.
We're giving the electric your body acts as an antenna.
You're giving the electric field a path of least resistance to ground through the ground cord.
And as it's going to ground, we can measure the strength of the field.

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So when we turn off a circuit in the bedroom, the body voltage drops.
We want the body voltage to be below, ideally below 10 millivolts.
In the modern world, it's almost impossible to do that.
So we say 100 millivolts.
During the day, sitting in your office below 1,000 millivolts or 1 volt, 1 volt is 1,000 millivolts.

(25:46):
So these are the targets we're aiming for, obviously.
always the lower the better so um yeah just turning off those two or three circuits
hit the button at night sleep in an emf mitigated sleep sanctuary putting the wi-fi router on one of
those circuits that you turn off is a really good idea so you don't have to worry about that if you
forget to turn off the wi-fi uh you sleep like a baby in the morning you push the on button

(26:12):
life goes on um so we are helping people to measure we help them to understand we have a
consulting business and we help people understand and interpret the data come up with a mitigation
plan so that you can mend so that's measure understand mitigate mom measure understand

(26:34):
mitigate so you can mend mom's the word mom's always taking care of her kids
amazing i love that and that that is important stuff and one step above what i understood before
because like i said i was turning off the wi-fi but there's still plugs around those wires in the
wall i didn't know about so this is a great next step for people to truly shut all that stuff down

(26:58):
when you go to bed because there should be absolutely none of this around you and that's
Super cool because it's a lot of work for people to figure out how to get all those wire.
And they probably, it probably would be unsafe to try to figure out how to get that all sorted
out personally.
So you have some kind of electrician consultant that goes out to people's houses and switches

(27:20):
things up in a certain way, or is this something that people just have to buy this, this product
and then there's an easy way for them to do it themselves?
Yeah.
people go to our website which is liveemfsafe.com l-i-v-e-e-m-f-safe liveemfsafe.com you can um
see the device it's a metal box just looks like the breaker panel that your breakers are in

(27:41):
on the wall 12 inches wide four inches deep and either 12 18 or 24 inches depending upon how many
circuits you want to turn off that goes it's installed next to your breaker panel in your
garage or the basement wherever it happens to be and uh you pull out the wires from the breaker

(28:01):
they run through hours so now we've got a relay in series so when you push the button the relay
opens or closes whichever way you want to look at it kills the power to that circuit and then in the
morning you push the button and and the power comes back on again so it's not inconveniencing
with your lifestyle these are circuits that you don't need on while you're asleep if you have some

(28:25):
medical equipment a c-pack machine or something uh we have some workarounds for that you turn off
the circuit to the bedroom and then um run a extension cord in from maybe you know the hallway
or a room close by that still has the power on because we're not killing the house and then you
just put the c-pad machine as far away from the bed as possible uh some people need a fan some

(28:49):
people need a air purifier um because of mold issues and things like that so we we can um we
have workarounds for all of those things so if people are asking those questions yeah but what
about this or what about that yeah we can help you with all of that so that that's where the
understanding comes in and then we come up with a mitigation plan which is custom designed for you

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I was saying our goal is to get you below 100 millivolts.
It is not uncommon when I first measure a house,
a person lays in the bed, we take a body voltage reading
to find 2,000 or 3,000 millivolts,
which is 20 to 30 times higher than the recommended minimum

(29:33):
or the reading that's of slight concern.
i've been into houses where it was 7 000 6 000 7 000 millivolts and just recently i was talking
to a gentleman he ordered the body voltage meter from us he had 12 000 millivolts

(29:54):
on his bed he had an adjustable bed it was plugged in so not only does he have
um the motor well it wasn't a matter of it wasn't only when the bed was being adjusted
the fact that it was plugged in that circuit those wires running from the wall to the inverter to the

(30:16):
12 volt motors were radiating out and he was being radiated by 12 000 millivolts all night long he
unplugged the bed he unplugged the two metal lamps on either side of the bed and he got it down to
a couple of thousand millivolts just by doing that and then we started identifying the circuits

(30:41):
from the panel that when he turned those off he got it down to a very very reasonable level
certainly compared to what he was living in and surprise surprise all of a sudden his
symptoms his medical condition started to clear up
what are the kinds of stories you hear from people because i'm sure you that people are very

(31:06):
surprised they can feel the difference like i said i i could feel the difference that night i didn't
even i had no idea it was that big of a factor in our sleep quality in our health so what stories
have you heard from people just making a simple switch and seeing benefits the the one if i can
get through telling the story without being emotional um i very rarely can um we had a family

(31:33):
they had a child on the spectrum five years old the child had never spoken
they'd been flipping off the breakers but they ordered a emf safe cutoff switch
which disconnects the power and the neutral they installed the cutoff switch
and within one week the child started talking

(31:57):
i'm not saying full sentences but they started vocalizing which they had never done for five
years so wow children on the spectrum people on the spectrum tend to be far more sensitive
to emf i don't know if the being on the spectrum causes their sensitivity um you know chicken and

(32:21):
egg. I don't know if one causes the other, but one's affected by the other. There's also some
anecdotal information from California two or three years ago where they were having all these
brownouts, and some areas were turned out for a week. They had no power for a week,

(32:42):
and families that had children on the spectrum reported a radical improvement in their condition
within that week
simply because they no longer
creating a sleep sanctuary is a big one
because of the effect of EMF
on us at night versus the effects on us
during the day
but how many times do these children

(33:05):
have an iPad as a
babysitter
they're there in front of a
television screen or an iPad or a
computer playing games
because that
occupies their brain
but all of that
That clicker, that light frequency, that blue light is also having a negative impact on our systems.

(33:31):
But yeah, we can use that kind of like the canary in the coal mine.
We can see the advantages of reducing EMF very, very significantly, radically, obviously, in certain people that have that higher level of sensitivity.
but it is affecting emf affects 100 of us now whether it's enough to cause symptoms

(33:56):
maybe we're not there yet um it's loading up the camel you never want to get to the point where
that last straw breaks the back because once you become hypersensitive your life will be miserable
we had one guy
to go to the store

(34:16):
he had to plan his trip meticulously
he was so sensitive to EMF
he had five minutes
in the store
drag himself
back home and took two days to recover before he could function again normally he got an EMF safe switch took a few weeks a couple of months Then he could go to the store take a couple of hours

(34:43):
still impacted him, but he'd go home. And in a couple of hours, not two days, but two hours,
he was fully functional again because he created a sleep sanctuary and his body
could recoup and recover and he gained back that much in a relatively short period of time
just by having a sleep sanctuary yeah that's really amazing and

(35:07):
i just can only imagine how many people out there are dealing with these issues they don't know
what's causing it because these things are invisible
yeah it's hard enough for people to figure out the problems with the things that they can see
and feel like what food they're eating and people and we can make them visible yeah with the rf meter
a gauss meter the body voltage meter uh we can make all these things visible this is an e-pen

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and uh turn it on it it lights up and if i get close to an emf source
uh my my system's grounded so it's not working um but you know um it the light
the light flashes and and it beeps so we can find hidden wires with the pen in the walls the floors

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the ceilings if you still have a unusually high reading with the body voltage reading and you
turned off all the circuits you think you can turn off you can just sweep the floor with this
and when this starts beeping it means there's another circuit running underneath the bed that
you haven't found yet so you leave the pen on the floor it's beeping

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uh somebody goes to the breaker panel and you just go through the breaker panel and you find
that circuit and turn it off that needs to be on your list for the cutoff switch
sometimes people well i turned off every circuit in the panel and and and it's still beeping
um you have a sub panel no i don't yes you do they go through the closets and there it is in

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the corner they've got a sub panel and there's a breaker in the sub panel that needs to be turned
off and uh you know we were able to find it with the body voltage meter and the pen
actually sometimes we do turn off all the circuits this is a very interesting one that
just came up recently we turned off all the circuits and the child's bedroom still had 2700

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millivolts the house is turned off they had a sonar system that's the computerized sound system
that puts music into all the rooms and it'll follow you around and they have a separate
controller a lot of them run on wi-fi and bluetooth their sonar system had a battery

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backup system so when we killed the power to the main panel we turned off the house
the battery backup system kicked in so the sonar system was still active and the speaker right
underneath the kid's bed was radiating out a field from the sonar system from the speaker

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from the sonal system because it was on battery backup that's how weird this stuff can be you kill
the house and they still had 2700 millivolts so we identified that problem and and solved that problem
it's it's so so fascinating we have no idea and when you start measuring it it is absolutely

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mind-boggling and fascinating the things that you find and um yeah people get really caught i mean
one of my biggest problems is it's the lady of the house that's concerned ladies tend to be a
little more sensitive than guys do the guys are going what are you talking about i've been around

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electric fields all my life and what what are you talking about you know there's nothing to it
and um we show up and we show them the the gadgets and they start going around the house and then
you know we can't we can't get the equipment back because this guy's running around the house
taking all these measurements but um you know the the skeptical husband

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wife you know for for a peaceful life you know allows the wife to turn off the circuit at night
she calls us the next day i dreamt for the first time in as long as i can remember i dreamt in

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color for the first time i normally only dream dream in black and white i woke up this morning
for the first time in five years without a mic ring my husband didn't snore last night
for the first time in as long as i can remember just because they turned off the circuits to the
bedroom yeah and there is another side effect to turning off the ems when i've had a couple of calls

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from guys saying anthony is you haven't mentioned this but um are there any other side effects to
this like oh what are you talking about you said you're a guy you know oh yeah yeah parts of the
body are going to be affected worse all of a sudden things that weren't working as well as

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you wanted them to start working again so yeah we don't advertise that one but it it can be a benefit
you'll sell a lot more products well you know yeah
this is and this is why people need to understand just the the different parts of our body how they

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all work so differently and things like that that's the most sensitive part of a man's body
so when that starts going away that's a very clear sign something's wrong and more men need to be
really thinking about that like and madam if that's a problem in your house sir if that's a
problem that you have try turning off the circuits don't believe me just go to the breaker panel

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turn off the circuit to the bedroom if the lights don't go out turn find that circuit if the room
next door doesn't go out find that room if it's an upstairs bedroom or you've got a basement turn
off that circuit just try it for a week you might not get all of them without measuring but just
you'll get most of them turn them off for a week see what happens then you'll know it's worth getting

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the meters doing the job correctly getting an ems safe cutoff switch you'll be amazed what pushing
this button can do for you it'll make magic happen literally that that's awesome and that's
a great test there's no downside to that for anyone out there and it's a freebie just yeah

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yeah that's such a great one yeah yeah super cool you are making love come back again sir
you're bringing love to the world this is great marriages we've saved a few marriages
That's amazing. I don't doubt it at all. It makes complete sense to me. These things are so damaging that people don't understand. And there are lots of different pieces to the health puzzle. I talk a lot about diet on this podcast. Personally, I think that's one that a lot of people have wrong.

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but this is another huge one this is a major and another one is the light we haven't really talked
about light a whole lot but you said red light is a big one and i i would love to get to that in a
moment but real quick something i want to touch on which you mentioned earlier was the sensitivity
of kids to this stuff oh yeah i think this is such an important thing to really drill on because

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as uh you know millennial gen x i'm assuming you are we need to really focus on the next
generation of little ones coming out here the the little kids that are being born and raised by
by us you know we need to make sure that they don't they aren't raised with these issues that

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a lot of us were because we didn't know any better our parents didn't know any better and we just have
to get this really figured out.
So could you dive into a little bit more?
What makes kids more sensitive to this stuff
and why do we really need to focus on that,
especially for parents out there?
Yeah, well, remember I said that EMF is cumulative.

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So my grandparents,
my grandfather was in the crowd at Southampton
that watched the Titanic set sail.
they grew up barely had electricity they'd only just got it if they had it

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barely had radio no television no computers none of the gadgets and gizmos so his exposure to emf
growing up was a thousand ten thousand times less than my parents his kids grew up with
my parents grew up with radio and you know black and white tv when i was a child we had

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black and white tv we didn't have color tv in england at the time
certainly no computers cell phones and things like that so kids growing up today
with cell phones with ipads with computers with televisions with
cell phone towers in the neighborhood with smart meters with

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wi-fi and bluetooth going the whole time in the school room how many schools have you seen with
a cell phone tower on the property um their exposure is not a thousand ten thousand times
more than my exposure was or my parents or my grandparents um was so how long does it take to

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load the camel. My grandfather's camel never got loaded. He was never exposed to that much.
My parents' generation, some of them, by the time they got to 60, 70 years old, their camel was
loaded depends how much technology they're exposed to my generation um now um at 40 50 years old

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the camel's loaded uh the kids today their camel can be loaded by the time they're age 17 18 15.
yeah and that's why because it's cumulative so that's why children they're not more sensitive
they're exactly as sensitive as we are or we were their exposure the person who smokes one

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cigarette a day is probably going to get away with it but 20 30 40 a day no you're not going
to get away with it it may take five years or 10 years but you're not going to get away with it
our kids are smoking 40 a day.
relatively speaking, using that analogy to EMF,
it's going to have an effect on them,

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and it is having an effect on them.
And it's dramatically affecting their brains,
their development.
Some of these changes that happen to the brain,
the rewiring of the brain because of exposure
to non-native EMF, not just the blue light
and from the screen time that they have,
but the wires the 60 hertz from the wires in the walls the electric fields the magnetic fields the

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the radio frequency the the wi-fi the bluetooth this is having a permanent
effect on their brains creating conditions that they'll never grow out of because when you stop
at 18 19 20 21 and you realize that this was quite part of the problem it's too late

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so number one thing that parents can do for their children today is restrict their exposure
be a good parent say no allocate you get an hour that's it nothing after sunset nothing

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have you ever heard of books you should really look into books google books you'll be amazed
what you find yeah i couldn't agree more it's just when when you look at the average daily life of
a young child these days they they they wake up in their bed which like you said is likely

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full of emfs in their room they have their cell phone at every age now next to them they put on
their shoes they they well first they have their processed breakfast cereal with soy milk which is
terrible then they they go on the bus to school they go sit in a classroom with terrible fluorescent
led lights just blasting their eyes out so everyone's wearing glasses at like 10 years old now

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and you're constantly surrounded by just horrible toxic forces you never touch the ground your feet
never touch the earth that's another big one and i'm sure you're you're big found grounding and
that's the the benefits that i can have and let's go into that actually what are your thoughts on
grounding how important is this because we're talking about all these frequencies in our body

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that to me that's one that i have been really trying to do as much as i can i'm barefoot right
now and i walk up in my backyard when i can so how powerful is grounding is a good tool to fix
some of these uh problems we have with all these different man-made frequencies everywhere okay
Okay, this comes with a warning.

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It's going to upset a lot of people.
First of all, let me say, I pointed out to you, I've mentioned earlier, our bodies run on DC voltage, not AC voltage.
Our bodies run on DC voltage, and Mother Earth, nature, runs on DC voltage.
the number one most powerful thing to positively impact their health anybody can do

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is ground outside nature that means getting your bare feet your hands your knees get down on the
ground lay on the ground in the grass hug a tree those roots go deep down into the ground
it is not woo-woo people you hug your trees they love you this is so good for you
so um grounding outside grounding in nature is one of the most significant and most important

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things anybody can do watch the sun rise with your bare feet on the ground so all of that energy
coming from the sun hitting your body is is grounded out and the negative ions from the
ground are coming up into your body and and there's a synchronicity there is a balancing
of all of the energy fields in your body in perfect harmony with nature according to design

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the most powerful thing you can do but it comes as a nasty shock to people
that to ground in nature you actually have to be in nature connecting a wire to your big toe
plugged in the wall of your house or a 50-foot wire out the window with a metal stake in the

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ground, all you've done is you've attached an antenna to your body that's now attracting
radio fields, magnetic fields, and electric fields. When you ground, you become part of the circuit.
outside in nature this is good this is wholesome this is part of the design that helps our bodies

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to which is another reason why our parents and grandparents whatever emf that they had as they
were growing up as the technology developed they spent 90 of their life outside we spend 90 of our
lives inside the artificial light that they had at night was incandescent bulbs which emits

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infrared the heat from an incandescent bulb is infrared those are the frequencies that you need
that neutralize the blue light from any screens and things like that so again it's much much closer
to nature but the man-made frequencies if you attach yourself to the house wiring system

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it's just not that piece of wire running from your grounding pad to the wall you're now attached to
the ground in your house if you have a thousand square foot house that's half a mile of wires if
you have a 2,000 square foot house, you're probably looking at a mile of wires by the time you add up

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all the grounds and all the neutrals because the neutrals on the ground. Can you imagine in your
head that antenna array that you are physically in contact with? How can that be healthy? The same
people that tell you, you need to get rid of your metal bed frame because the metal bed frame can
attract these frequencies that are bad for you okay you need to get rid of the mattress with the

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metal coils in it because the metal coils can act as inducers and and put those coils are putting
those fields into your body okay but it's okay to put a metal pad on the bed in contact with my body
or metal sheets attached to a wire attached to the wiring system of my house

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and if grounding to my house is so beneficial why do i need to replace my metal bed frame and
my metal coiled mattress why don't i just spend 20 bucks and attach a wire to it and
ground it to the house and be done with it why do i need your 5 000 10 000 bed
so also also let me add to that if you haven't turned off the 60 hertz field

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if you haven't turned off the 60 hertz field and you're grounding in your house
that 60 hertz field is now flowing through your body to ground all the time now if i'm laying in
bathtub i'm wet but my exposure to the water is minimized this minute it's it's restricted to the

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water in the bathtub think of a bird sitting on a high power wire they're fine they're in the field
but they're not grounded it's not flowing through them they just happen to be in the field they're
fine ground that bird you've got a chunk a lump of charcoal now we're not talking current here
we're talking fields but if i'm in a 60 hertz field

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i'm grounded that field is now flowing through me all night to ground that's the difference
between being in a bathtub and being wet and being under a waterfall and being wet
in this analogy the 60 hertz field is is the water by grounding in your house with the 60 hertz field

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you are actually exacerbating the problem not removing it and the reason the body voltage meter
goes to zero when you touch the grounding pad because the field that my body is is being induced
into my body is going through the meter to ground it's following the path of least resistance to

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ground so if i'm sitting in 3000 millivolts i can measure that because i'm not grounded it has to go
through the meter if i touch the grounding pad with my hand or my foot this goes to zero
because now the field is discharging to ground through my hand or my foot because

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the meter is adding resistance through the pad there's no resistance through my hand there's no
resistance i'm still in 3000 millivolts the meter says zero because the field is now going through
the foot my foot to ground not through the meter the field didn't change so the people that are

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selling grounding equipment using a body voltage meter they touch the pad see the field's gone away
no the field is still the field you didn't turn anything off the field is still the field
it's not going through the meter anymore it's going through your hand or your foot to ground
you still have 3 000 millivolts but now instead of being in the field in the bathtub you're now

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under a waterfall and that field is flowing through you all night long which is why some people
start grounding and they get worse and that's the reason why folks and i'm hearing some people say
well i started grounding and i felt great yes because if you're really sick

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even grounding in a house the benefits outweigh the negatives the positives outweigh the negatives
and you can go from being really sick to not so sick.
0But if you reasonably healthy grounding in your house will not make you more healthy It will most likely take things away from you because you now exposing yourself to more of 572 00:57:06,1000 --> 00:57:16,220 the problem than you had before. Ground outside, away from the house, away from non-native EMF,

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six to eight feet away from your house,
what are the best, most positive things you can do?
Yes, I'm for grounding, earthing,
physically in contact with Mother Earth.
0Grounding to your house electrical system,
not so much.

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I love it and I agree.
I have heard some friends say that they felt some benefits
just from those mats,
but no one will ever convince me that you can be just standing in the dirt or the sand or the water.
I mean, that's clearly going to be the best.
Absolutely. 585 00:57:52,1000 --> 00:57:55,760 Have you heard of people say that they have had good things?
Do you think that's just a placebo or maybe it's slightly better than what they're having before?

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Or do you think that it's all in their head?
I think some of it's placebo.
But, you know, like I said, if they are in a particularly not good condition,
can can the benefits outweigh the the the advantages outweigh the disadvantages for
0some people temporarily they can but as they get better they'll find that the grounding 592 00:58:21,1000 --> 00:58:31,160 um works less and less they get less and less benefit from it so if you have a grounding pad

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and you say well i know when i first started using it i i felt the benefits great how long ago was
that three months six months a year take the pad off the bed don't just unplug it remember it's
metallic it's attracting emf it's metallic take the pad off the bed don't just unplug it take it

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off the bed for a week and see if having it not there now because your body hopefully has improved
you're at a different health stage now if if you don't feel better with it off put it back on
wait for two or three months sleep for a week without it and i would recommend everybody do

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that all the time i don't care what you're doing health wise nutrition wise emf wise red light
therapy wise try it for a while if you're getting benefits keep doing it but after a while stop
doing it and see if you don't notice an improvement by not doing it or if you get worse if you slip

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back a little bit okay now you've confirmed that that is beneficial to you so keep doing it for a
few more weeks a few months and then stop doing it and you should do that with everything you're
doing to make sure that it's still beneficial because maybe it was beneficial for a season

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and maybe you're still in that season and you've confirmed that or maybe you're out of that season
and now that's actually hindering your progress and you'd be better off either doing nothing or
finding something else to take you from you know that got you've made a b but now you're at b and
what got you've made a B may not be the thing to get you to C and to D and to E and to etc so

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test these things measure and you will know
yeah yeah absolutely that's the best way to just confirm it for yourself
I'd love to pivot real quick to something I heard you talk about on the decentralized radio podcast

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which is looking back into history,
how we have examples of certain things that we were told were one thing,
for example, the Spanish flu is when he talked about,
actually turned out to be EMF sickness.
Could you talk a little bit more about that?
What are your favorite examples?
I'm very glad you smirked a little bit because this is something I love talking

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about how the things were told in history are not as they seem.
Talk to me about what are the best examples out there of these,
these these mass signals is actually just turned out to be from emfs that we weren't told about
well one of one of the ones where this shows up the very first time was with the the very first
emf which was the electric telegraph so the electric telegraph

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all the operators and all the people that lived close to the wires because that was a wire that
were strung on poles across the country so that the telegraphs you know they could talk to each
other all those people that were associated with the telegraph got flu-like symptoms

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things now that we recognize as being ehs electromagnetic hypersensitivity syndrome
they got emf poisoning they were toxic and their bodies responded to it
And those flu light symptoms have turned up in society purely coincidentally at the same time that radio was introduced into society, that street lights and house lights were introduced into society, that as radio expanded into new areas, as television expanded into new areas, and they're broadcasting that signal through the air.

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When cell phones were introduced and new frequencies, every time it's a new frequency.
And it's not a natural frequency.
It's a man-made frequency.
We get radio waves from the sun and from space all the time.
But they are natural.
And they don't, well, they do affect our bodies.
I don't know how many people, I mean, we're recording this in June of 25.

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And in the last couple of weeks, we just had some massive solar flares.
electromagnetic fields hitting the earth and um massive uh earthquakes around the globe the ring
of fire is on fire earthquakes that have been dormant for years etna and other volcanoes are
erupting these magnetic fields are affecting mother earth in a very significant way that we

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can see with our eyes they're also affecting us the whole idea of people being lunatics
during the four different phases of the moon you can ask anybody even today
that works in a hospital what's their busiest time of the month
woman or moon heart attacks you name it significantly higher during that phase of the

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moon we are affected by and these are natural frequencies add to that the man-made frequencies
it is purely coincidental that every time we introduce a new frequency to the general population, there's a flu outbreak.

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And there are, could you talk about the Spanish flu a little bit?
Because I think that's one that you mentioned earlier, and that was one that I've always heard was definitely not this, a result of a new EMF source.
What was the detail on that?
There is some, because at that time, it came out right when all the troops were coming back from World War I, and they had all been injected with a vaccine.

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They experimented on the troops, and then they all come back.
And the Spanish flu broke out across America and all of the outbreaks were centered around military bases.
So at the same time. We were.

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Introducing to society at that time, electrification was being released across the country with streetlights and electric.
fields into homes. And of course, the radio, advent of radio was right around that time

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and being more widely distributed. So you have a number of factors going on there. I
would not like to say that the Spanish flu was exclusively an EMF-related thing. I think
that emf was part of it i think it exacerbated the problem but to be controversial um you look at the

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when it happened how it happened um the centers of the outbreak and the fact that the the troops
0coming back from the third world first world war had all been vaccinated and then they were the 661 01:06:15,1000 --> 01:06:22,800 first ones to get the the the vaccine against the spanish flu and then as the vaccines were spread

(01:06:22):
out across the country the spanish flu went out across the country um i don't know how many of you
know people got vaccinated and within several days if not several weeks suddenly they got um
the thing that was going around at the time um purely coincidental that everybody i know that

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got a vaccine got the thing within a few days or a few weeks of having got the vaccine against the
thing um you know it doesn't take much if you step back and look at the facts to see what's going on
so um i'm not saying that emf is the direct cause but is it a contributing factor to all

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these things does it exacerbate the problem you know chicken and egg which came first
um and in different circumstances in different situations and for different people
um i i think we could maybe point in a different direction but they're all related and i'm not
saying that somebody that's got sitting here listening to this um that their symptoms are

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directly caused by the emf that they're exposed to in their home at work in their neighborhoods
but if it wasn the the cause i can assure you the emf that you exposed to is a contributing factor and either way if you reduce your emf exposure you will notice i can guarantee anything because

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everybody's different and i don't know how far along you are but i'll be shocked from my years
of experience of helping hundreds of people if you didn't notice an improvement in your physical
condition when you reduce your emf exposure again not to say that emf's the cause
but for most people it is definitely a contributing factor

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i'm glad you brought up the the bad v word because i feel like that is relevant here because
when and we do not shy away from controversy here that's for sure there are so many examples where
these sicknesses came out and we are told that the vaccines fixed it, but what really it caused

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it. And the Spanish flu is one that you mentioned there. Thank you for the clarification on the
historical part of that. Another one's polio. This was a result of them spraying DDT everywhere.
And as soon as they turned that down, the cases went all the way down. If you actually look at
the graph at the very end, when it was almost pretty much gone, that's when they came out with
vaccine so it didn't actually fix it and but more generally after after after the polio vaccine

(01:09:08):
which was um contained sv40 simian virus 40 uh because obviously it was the 40th attempt at
growing the culture they used um monkey livers or kidneys or something like that that's why it
came came from that and even though this sv40 did not affect monkeys it does affect humans

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and right after that the polio vaccine um there was a massive massive increase in cancer
and the cancers were caused by the sv40 that was in the polio vaccine well they finally figured
that out and they took it out of the vaccine but interestingly enough sv40 was included

(01:09:52):
in the covid vaccine knowing what it does and all of a sudden
what do we have another outbreak of cancer rapid onset cancer people that were in remission
suddenly are getting cancers again people that were perfectly healthy you know in two or three

(01:10:13):
months they've got this rapid
cancers that
you know and 20, 30, 40
year olds, athletes
you know what changed
between
2020 and now
to cause this
change
what things have changed in our environment

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what things have changed in society
that all
of a sudden
we've got these things going on
And there is a correlation between the vaccines and EMF.
And some people say that the greater exposure you have to non-native EMF, it's interesting that Wuhan is the city in China that is the most technologically advanced.

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And they had just in the few months previous to the outbreak in Wuhan of COVID, they had just turned on 10,000 5G towers.
And the whole population had been vaccinated against something else because that's mandatory in China to get the vaccines, whatever vaccines they're dishing out for whatever reason.

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they're dishing them out and you know if you don't have the piece of paper that says you had
the vaccine you can't go into the store and buy whatever you want to buy so coincidentally months
before the covid outbreak the whole city of Wuhan had been vaccinated and they just turned on 10,000
5g towers again it's probably a coincidence yeah for sure and outside of just the covid facts

(01:12:09):
the flu shots are things are now pushed to be taken every single year and all these other
shots every single year and every single one of those is full of heavy metals they're full
of aluminum and mercury and other just like when you look at the actual ingredients of this stuff
it's a bunch of metals now how does that act with ems magnets pushing on your body when you have

(01:12:33):
metal in your body that can't be good can it i just read uh in the last week that um the statistics
are now that people that get the flu vaccine the instances of flu recurring flu in people that have
had the flu vaccine is greater than the population that hasn't had the flu vaccine so it's actually

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making it's reached the stage now and remember this year's flu vaccine
is for last year's flu it's not for this year's flu it's for last year's flu
they can't create a vaccine for this year's flu because this year's flu hasn't happened yet

(01:13:15):
or they haven't had the time to figure out what the vaccine against it's going to be
and to make it so this year's flu vaccine is for last year's flu not this year's flu
lots of things for people out there and especially please parents of kids to think about

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and uh yeah i think that the further we get away from nature the more problems we have and
there's nothing natural about injecting yourself with a bunch of heavy metals or
pumping yourself with all these man-made electronic frequencies around your house like we talked about

(01:14:00):
i think that's that's the theme of the day is just connect with nature stop doing these weird
things humans have come up with you're going to be healthier that way when i was growing up i think
it was like four vaccines and you didn't give it to a newborn baby or two-month-old baby you know
you're like several years old you had to have them before you went to school at five
now there's like 76 that they have to have before they before they go to school at five years old

(01:14:25):
they literally inject the baby coming out of the womb um with something that is physically
impossible for them to contract until they're a teenager why would they inject you a newborn baby
for something that they physically cannot get until they're a teenager
so it's not the vaccine in and of themselves necessarily

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but the number of vaccines that kids are exposed to in the early
days hours days of their life is ridiculous
let them get their mother's milk let them get all the natural immunities from their

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mother when i was growing up some kid in the neighborhood got whatever it was
mumps or chicken pox or whatever the thing going around was
everybody all the mothers sent their kids over to that house
to get the thing because once you had the thing the younger you were when you got it

(01:15:38):
the less symptomatic you were the older you were with most of these things the later in life you
got them the worse the symptoms to the point of i think it's mumps if you get it when you're a
teenager it can make you sterile but if you get it when a kid it's fine and if you get it when a kid
you can't get it when you're older because you've got the natural immunity to it so we were all sent

(01:16:00):
over to the kids house that had the thing so we could all get the thing we went home took a few
days to get over it and life goes on natural immunity so
what's changed why were um uh both you and i know of uh dr jack cruz who was a

(01:16:28):
um was trained originally as an oral surgeon and then became a a neurosurgeon
and when he was at medical school the the head of his clinic old guy getting ready to retire
there was a case of i think it was lung cancer and he called all the students
and said i want you to see this you need to study this case because it is so rare

(01:16:55):
the odds of you ever seeing this ever again in your medical practice is remote
now it's common now it's common why is that what's changed a number of things have changed

(01:17:18):
the additives to the food the emf the vaccine schedule there's a bunch of contributing factors
and it's probably not any one thing although it probably is one thing for certain people
but that one thing is different for different people but it's the accumulative effect of all
of these things if the camel wasn't loaded the straw wouldn't have broke its back if your emf

(01:17:45):
exposure was low why why does smart meters really mess up some people like within days they get
symptoms and the next door neighbor they're fine because the next door neighbor's camel isn't loaded
so it's not a straw that breaks their back their their exposure is significantly less or their

(01:18:05):
cumulative total is significantly less they haven't reached that point yet
and their body can handle it it's still having an effect
unload your camel i don't care if it's food colorings food additives
vaccines anything man-made anything synthetic man-made emfs

(01:18:28):
reduce your exposure
unload your camel
before
you reach that point
where that one straw breaks your back because those people and I deal with EMF sensitive people hypersensitive people their lives are miserable You don want to change your lifestyle Oh

(01:18:51):
I'd have to turn off my wifi at night. And I don't want to do that.
I'd have to charge my phone away from the bed in another room.
I want my phone by my bed. Trust me.
Once you've hit the wall,
your lifestyle will change dramatically if you need your phone on if you're a medical person and

(01:19:11):
you're on call go to staples get a letter holder this is metal mesh
put your phone in it this is by my bed i've got three layers of metal mesh for that signal to get
to, but the phone can still receive phone calls, but I'm not getting radiated all night.

(01:19:37):
I'm shielding myself from the signal coming from the phone.
You're on call. Fine. You've got a family emergency. Somebody needs to, you know,
you need to be available. Have the phone by your bed, but shield yourself from the phone.
So you're not getting radiated all night. There's some very simple, easy, $10 fixes

(01:19:59):
is that's very interesting they make bigger ones for for for letter holders it's a concertina thing
0like that but it is big stick it in front of your if you've got to have the wi-fi on i recommend 792 01:20:15,1000 --> 01:20:20,1000 everybody hardwire the ethernet the the wi-fi but let's say they have to have their wi-fi on 793 01:20:20,1000 --> 01:20:30,840 for whatever reason you actually don't but okay put the letter holder which is a bigger one of these

(01:20:30):
between you and the wi-fi don't cover it up just put it between you and it so if it's sitting on
your desk four feet away by the way if i take a rf reading four feet from a microwave oven
and i hear people saying oh i got rid of my microwave years ago why
well all the obvious reasons because even though you know the door stops the

(01:20:55):
microwaves from coming out it's still leak yeah and if i'm four feet from my microwave oven
i get a reading on my rf meter guess what it's exactly the same reading i get four feet from my
wi-fi router it's exactly the same reading i get 400 feet from a cell phone tower

(01:21:17):
you wouldn't put up with a cell phone tower 400 feet from your house
or you'd be very concerned about it once you get educated about emfs and you'd be thinking about
moving or painting that side of a house to shield yourself from that as you should
0you wouldn't sit with a microwave oven on your desk 24 7 if you use a microwave oven 805 01:21:45,1000 --> 01:21:52,640 you slam the door you push the button and you walk away and it's only on for five minutes two

(01:21:52):
minutes and even then you walk away from it but you've got a wi-fi router some of you may be
in your bedroom some of you may be in your office you wouldn't use a microwave oven
for five minutes but you're sitting next to the equivalent of a microwave oven putting out exactly

(01:22:13):
the same field four feet from it as a microwave oven and you're sitting in that for five hours
wake up
yeah lots of stuff there for for people to dig into and in my favorite thing that
you you talk about is the unloading the camel that i'm writing that down on stuff is me on my

(01:22:36):
notepad right now because that's that's a great thing to just think about for people and also
So it's important for people to not stress out over the mistakes they've made in the past.
I certainly made many.
The vaccines are one of them.
I was raised on them.
I look back and just cringe now knowing what I know.

(01:22:56):
But all we can do is make changes right now and unload our camel in the best ways we can.
Implement all these things now.
And as I mentioned earlier, like for the parents out there or the hoping to be parents,
think about how cool it's going to be to be able to raise your kids so much healthier than you were
and the fact that they will just have an amazing foundation and we're going to see a beautiful

(01:23:22):
future where the next generation is able to skip all these steps we have to go through ourselves
and that gets me really excited and i i see so many examples of people making these changes
i talk to parents and they say oh we can't take the ipad or the iphone away in europe
it is illegal for children below the age of 11 or 12 i can't remember what the age is it is illegal

(01:23:45):
for them to have a cell phone it is illegal in europe for them to put a cell phone tower
within i don't just quarter or half a mile but within a certain distance of a school
or a hospital it is illegal for them to put up cell phone towers close to schools
all their computer labs are hardwired.

(01:24:07):
It's illegal for the kids to have phones.
They know, they acknowledge the ill effects of EMF.
There's a reason why they're allowed in America.
But you will pay the price.

(01:24:29):
You will pay the price.
Your child will pay the price later in life if you don't restrict their exposure now, be it to coloring and preservatives in food or non-native EMF or blue light from the screens.
If you don't restrict their exposure now, they will be paying the price with their health in the not too distant future.

(01:24:56):
Not when they're 60 or 70.
some kids when they're 16 or 17 some it might be 30 or 40 but diseases that were rare
in 70 and 80 year olds a few years ago are now common in 30 and 40 year olds

(01:25:20):
why what's changed in culture what's changed in society measure understand mitigate
0and mend.
Yeah.
Beautifully put.
I can't think of a better way
to start wrapping it up than that.
Anthony Smith,
where can people go
to learn more about all this stuff

(01:25:41):
and check out your product line?
As you mentioned,
there's a bunch of stuff
on your website
that can help people with this.
So where should people go?
Yeah, liveemfsafe.com,
L-I-V-E-E-M-F-S-A-F-F-F-R-A-N-C-E,
liveemfsafe.com.
And there's videos there. There's lots of material. Go to the 101 page. Go to the measure page. There's videos there on how to use the body voltage meter, how to set it up, how to use it, how to take the readings, how to understand and interpret them.

(01:26:13):
we sell the body voltage meter and the cornet meter the cornet meter is a little i don't have
one here but little white device looks looks very similar to this and that is a quad meter it
measures electric fields magnetic fields radio frequency and it's calibrated now the new one is
calibrated for 5g so it's picking up all the new uh frequencies um which are delivered at a faster

(01:26:39):
rate so some of the old meters don't measure because they're not calibrated to get the
the faster bullets because the rf comes in bullets and they sped up the rate of the bullets so the
older meters don't pick up the 5g signal uh this one does and it's also got a um light flicker
meter on it so you can actually use it to measure the flicker from the if there is any flicker and

(01:27:01):
what the rate of the flicker on the bulbs in your house is which is something we didn't really get
into but that those lights are flashing at 60 times a second just like the electric field is
vibrating at 60 times a second that is affecting your brain and that that's hard work on your brain
you don't see it consciously you can just get a cell phone recorded slow record the lights in

(01:27:24):
your house in slow motion you'll and then play it back you'll see the flicker that is having a very
negative effects on your brain so by replacing your bulbs reducing the non-native emf creating
a sleep sanctuary um the body voltage meter the coronet meter um this equips you gives you the

(01:27:45):
information you need to make an informed decision and empowers you to mitigate and then rewards you
with the the reading afterwards versus the reading before imagine how this guy felt 12 000 millivolts
on his bed and now he's turned off a few circuits and he's down to you know somewhere around 100
millivolts that's the feel good that's the feel good so yeah yeah mentally and physically just

(01:28:15):
feeling good that you're you're making changes in your life that's can't be discount either you
know people see all these physical benefits but it's also lots of fun when you start finding these
pieces that you can improve and you feel better and you get to share it with other people
and you really get to see this decentralization of health and holistic health improvement and it's a

(01:28:38):
very beautiful thing to witness and so really appreciate the work you're doing spreading the
word on this getting out there being fearless and the stuff you're talking about going everywhere
we need more people like that so i appreciate it very much anthony and uh i look forward to
keep in touch for more content.
I look forward to eventually having my own house.
I'm not traveling all around the world like a crazy person where I can really

(01:29:00):
lock in with your products and then be able to use that myself.
And 10% discount for listeners of the show,
the 10% discount code,
which will be in the notes.
So yes,
Ben one zero,
Ben 10.
I'll put that in there.
I forgot to mention that.
Thank you.
10% discount.
So it's our pleasure to thank you for listening.
Everybody go to the website.

(01:29:22):
and if you have questions uh you know we're also available for for consulting for counseling so
look forward to hearing from you all yes excellent anthony thanks so much again have a good one
you're welcome
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