June 11, 2025 • 25 mins
What does it take to transform a childhood passion into a thriving beauty business? Shamail McKenzie's journey from practicing on Barbie styling heads to becoming an award-winning hair and makeup artist reveals the perfect blend of artistic talent, business savvy, and genuine care for clients.
Shamail opens up about her 15+ years in the beauty industry, sharing how she built her business from the ground up without any entrepreneurial role models in her family. Her mother's unwavering support—encouraging her daughter to pursue her passion and even ensuring she had Brown Barbies that reflected her own appearance—laid the foundation for a career celebrating women's unique beauty.
What truly sets Shamail apart is her philosophy of personalized beauty. "Don't be cookie-cutter," she emphasizes, explaining how she adapts techniques for different face shapes, bone structures, and features. Through training at MAC Cosmetics and cosmetology school, she developed a keen eye for how to enhance rather than mask individual beauty. Her approach transforms not just appearances but confidence—helping clients see themselves through a lens of celebration rather than criticism.
Now pivoting toward coaching other beauty professionals, Shamail aims to fill a gap she encountered herself: guidance on the business aspects of beauty artistry. From contracts to pricing to client experience, she's passionate about helping others avoid the trial and error that marked her early career. Her practical advice for aspiring makeup artists—practice on yourself before bed, work at makeup counters to experience diverse faces, and continuously revisit educational resources—offers a roadmap for success in this competitive field.
Listen in as we explore Shamail's inspiring story and gather valuable insights about beauty, business, and the art of celebrating what makes each person uniquely beautiful. Connect with Shamail at ShamailMcKenzie.com or TheArtOfBeautiful.com to learn how she can transform your special day or help you build your own beauty business.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Benchmark Happenings, brought to you by
Jonathan and Steve fromBenchmark Home Loans.
Northeast Tennessee, johnsonCity, kingsport, bristol, the
Tri-Cities One of the mostbeautiful places in the country
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Tons of great things to do andawesome local businesses.
(00:22):
And on this show you'll findout why people are dying to move
to Northeast Tennessee.
And on the way we'll havediscussions about mortgages and
we'll interview people in thereal estate industry.
It's what we do.
This is Benchmark Happenings,brought to you by Benchmark Home
Loans and now your host,christine Reed.
(00:43):
And now your host, christineReed.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Welcome back everybody to another episode of
Benchmark Happenings and thestar of our show today and she
is a star and she's probablygoing to be probably the funnest
guest I've had so far, but Ihave Shamil McKenzie.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So, shamil, thank you .
Well, I think that's like thebest intro ever.
I have a lot to live up to.
Nervous, I'm nervous, oh, mygoodness.
Okay, we got this.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We got it girl.
We got it girl.
So, shamil those of you who donot know Shamil she is an award
winning hair and makeup artistwith many years of experience
and she is truly dedicated toher clients to look and feel
their absolute best.
I can testify to that becauseshe has done makeup and hair for
(01:36):
me many times in the past.
So thank you, shamil.
My pleasure, my friend, oh yes,but you know, as an entrepreneur
, you've truly built asuccessful business and you've
earned recognition like the notbest of weddings award in the
bridal industry.
So we'll share a little bitabout that, because that's a
(01:57):
special award that you'reselected by brides that you have
actually done hair and makeupfor and you're very passionate,
very passionate and you're doingsome coaching now.
So I think I've heard thatthere's going to be a little bit
of a pivot to Shamil's careerpath and so as you empower
(02:19):
wedding professionals to elevatetheir craft, to have a thriving
business and truly create adream wedding, so I'm excited
that for this conversation today, Shamil.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Thank you, oh my goodness, thank you for having
me.
What an honor, what a privilege, what a blessing to be here.
It is an honor.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, the same here, and I know it's taken us over a
year.
I was beginning to think it wasthe same thing with Chris and I
was like, okay, am I ever goingto get these two girls?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yes, she loves you too.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So I love, I love what you're doing, shamil in the
art of beautiful and just.
Your makeup and your techniquesare.
They're unique and I love howyou tailor them to each
individual woman.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Thank you so much.
You know I do my very best tocelebrate every woman's unique
beauty.
I think that's not cookiecutter.
I think you have to really kindof know what know about some
facial structure and bonestructure and you want to
celebrate eyes and make them pop.
Or and I also think it's aboutskincare too making sure you
take good care of the skin andthen, on top of the skincare, do
(03:34):
beautiful makeup to the best ofmy ability, and I just love
making women look and feelbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's just like the best thing ever Well, and you
know what and that you can tellthat is your passion and you
truly care about your clients.
You know, with sitting in thatchair in your glam room or if
you're on site, you know it'salways.
It's just a special experience.
So, shamel, how did you getstarted in this industry?
(03:59):
So that's a great question.
So I've always been that friendwho, when we came over to like
go out or have gone have somefun at a party, a friend's
birthday party, whateverindustry.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So that's a great question.
So I've always been that friendwho, when we came over, to like
go out or have gone have somefun at a party a friend's
birthday party or whatever.
I would be that person.
Everybody come to my house andI would do their hair and makeup
and then we'd jet out.
So my mom was always like youknow, I've always figured that
this was going to be the pathyou chose, because I've always
loved it and it's been so muchfun.
And, you know, thank you tothose friends.
If you guys are listening,thank you for letting me like
(04:25):
experiment on you.
I'm like let's try some goldeyeliner, you know, but what a
blessing to be able to just kindof have a mom too that supports
you know she was like go for it, you know.
And so I started with Barbie.
You know the Barbie head, ifanyone has ever used those.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I had a Barbie head and you know what?
I still have my Barbie head.
She is in a box in the originalbox in the basement.
But yes, I still have theoriginal Barbie head that's
where I started listen.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I love that.
I'm gonna have to.
We're gonna have to go and likevisit that box, just just just
to look at her, just for amoment, oh yeah and reminisce,
reminisce, although I'm prettysure that my Barbie I don't know
where she is, but if she is,she's probably got a little bit
of melted hair, because I triedto curl her hair once that's not
actual hair, okay, so it justmelted but, um, so I've got.
I've had several, you know,barbie heads that I went through
(05:16):
on my journey, but I love thatso much, I think that's so cool,
and Barbie at the time I guesseven now is still just like that
, that idea of, like you know,fun and her shoes and her
wardrobe and beauty.
And now the iterations ofBarbie are really cool and when
I was growing up, my mom wouldalways get me brown Barbies,
(05:36):
which is really cool.
So I would have, like you know,all these beautiful brown
Barbies where my mom was like,hey, I want to try and get you
Barbies that look as close toyou as possible.
Um, and it was just a reallycool thing to have, um, these
beautiful dolls that, um,celebrated my skin tone and my
face shape and my hair color andthat sort of thing.
So that was really cool Mom,good job, good job I love her.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yes, yeah, and I know that you lost your mom about a
year ago, about a year ago.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I know, man it is.
You know, if you've everexperienced the loss of just
someone who was just yourbiggest fan and just your solid
foundation.
But you know, those type ofpeople we're just blessed to
have them.
If they happen to be our motheror our father, we're blessed to
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have those people in our lives,and so she just poured so much
goodness into me and so I feellike, you know, she's still with
me in a way right, because, um,those seeds that she planted
and watered and threw somesunshine on, um, I feel like
that, those, those, um, thatwisdom and that love is still
with me today.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, yeah.
Well, I know that was a verydifficult journey and it
continues to be so.
So as a child you were, youwere experimenting, you were the
, the girlfriend that everybodycame to.
So what made you decide to?
You know what?
I think I'll turn this into abusiness.
So talk about that journey,Shamil.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's a really great question.
So I was we'll fast forward alittle bit and I was working at
the Mac counter, a local Maccounter here at Johnson City
Mall Yay, shout out to JohnsonCity Mall.
But it was a coworker who wasjust like hey, I'm getting
married and I love the way youdo hair, love the way you do
makeup.
Would you be interested indoing my hair and makeup?
(07:27):
And I'm like yes, absolutely.
And then she was like how muchwould that be?
And I was like I have no clue.
But that's kind of like thevery first client that I had,
like paying customer that I hadand didn't even realize that I
could make a business out ofthat you know I don't have
anyone.
I'm the first person in myfamily to own a business, to
(07:47):
start a business, to even go forit in any way.
So and again, my mom supportedme the whole way.
She was just like go for it,you do it, you know, you start
doing research.
And then there was a whole lotabout beauty business or how to
start, not a lot on YouTube.
Now that's changed.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I hope to even change that landscape even more.
So how long have you been doingthis, Shamayle?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I like to say 15 plus years, because I don't want
to go any further than that.
It's actually been more like 20, but 15 plus sounds so much
better.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm going to remember that.
How long have you been in sales, Christine?
Oh, 15 plus yeah, 15 plus seethat sounds better, right?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
it's like if you say 20 plus, they're like wait.
So the question to me comes inexactly how I'm like?
I am like uh 29 forever forever, ever, ever.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Southern ladies.
Don't ever ask a southern ladytheir age, ever, ever.
That is taboo, it's totallywe're just that we're just
unique and so you started thekind of there wasn't a lot out
there, so you had to kind ofbuild this from the ground up
yes, yes, and so it started withjust kind of asking some peers
(08:59):
who are in business.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's like how do I get contracts?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
How smart you know what do?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I do, you know Um, and so that's how it started too
, because I really didn't knowUm and I just want to kind of be
able.
Even then I knew that I want todeliver um, just excellent
service and quality service.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I feel like customer service is so important.
When someone's investing in you, you want to kind of make sure
that, um, they're getting likethe best experience possible,
and I want to learn how to dothat.
And I think that's what kind ofyou know not what kind of it's,
what kind of you know made mewant to pivot into.
I've kind of done the businessthe hair and makeup thing and on
location thing.
I love weddings and I love doingphoto shoots.
(09:36):
I love them and but I realizedthere was a need in the market
because there's so many hair andmakeup artists who contact me,
email me and they're like so I'dlike to get started, love to do
weddings.
Where do I start?
How do I get paid?
How do I?
And I was like you know, I seea need in the market and really
my ideal client is is shamel.
When she first started, youknow it's like, you know it was
(09:58):
like um, so contracts, what'sthat supposed to say in that
contract?
You know, and then um you knowcause you gotta protect yourself
too, you know, and so I didn'tknow.
But you know what a privilegeand honor that I had so many
wonderful friends who helped mealong the way, um, and I would
love to make a positive impactand help others and also I'd
love to help, you know, futurebrides and women, just you know
(10:22):
kind of help create their dreamwedding day with their what you
know, future brides and women,just you know, kind of help
create their dream wedding daywith their wedding.
You know, with withspecifically with the beauty,
with wedding hair, weddingmakeup, absolutely.
But yeah, I just think it's aand, of course, east Tennessee
is like I feel like the mostbeautiful place to get married.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
These we have so many gorgeous venues here we do.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I mean absolutely stunning, and so, of course, you
want to get married here.
It's amazing, it's so beautifulBarn venues.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, a friend of mine.
She's a wedding planner.
I'm sure you know her, JamieJackson.
Yeah, I've had her on thispodcast before, and there was a
couple that flew from Francethat wanted to get married here
and she did their wedding.
I mean it's like really France,Okay, I mean it's like really
France, okay, well, you know.
But so it sounds like you'rewanting to now venture out into
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as a consultant.
Yes, to a lot of these up andcoming entrepreneurs who want to
have a hair and makeup, beauty,beauty related business where
they're doing on site.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Right, yes, yes, because I want to just come
alongside them and help them tocreate their dream business and
that's specifically their dreambeauty business.
Um, cause, that's where, that's, that's what I know.
But, um, I just feel likethere's a.
There's like there is a there'sa space in the market for this,
because there's not a whole lotof information for the business
side of it.
There's lots of tutorials, butI feel like there's tutorials
(11:43):
and there's one-on-oneexperience, and one-on-one
because to someone to seesomeone doing something, but do
they have the same skin tone asyou, the same eye shape as you,
the same bone structure as you,then it kind of changes a little
bit.
You want to change yourhighlight and contour based on
that.
You know and then, really,really.
My focus is don't be a cookiecutter, you know.
(12:04):
Don't just do what you see.
Tailor it to that specificbeautiful face.
You know.
Really celebrate what you knowthey have like, whether it's
like their bone structure, forinstance, or their how their
their lips are shaped, or if youwant to, you know, accentuate
the cupid bow, or if you want tomake the eyes pop, or um, it's
all kinds of wonderful thingsyou can do.
But that really celebrates anindividual's style and beauty.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
See, I love that, I love that.
And because no one has theperfect face, you know we all
have.
You know we're our worstcritics, especially as women.
We look in the mirror as we'reputting our makeup on, we think,
oh my, I would like to changethis, change that, and I think
it's so important that everyone,because we're all designed
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uniquely by God- our creator,amen, girl and he made.
All of us are beautiful insideand out, depending on who we
turn out to be our character,but I think there's always I
love what you see in others thatthere's something beautiful to
celebrate, absolutely, whetherit's every single face,
absolutely, every single facecan be.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I can celebrate their beauty.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I think sometimes what we do is we see a tutorial
or we see something that maybewe could try, and then you try
it and it doesn't look exactlythe same.
But you know there's makeup isreally powerful.
It's because you can reallyreshape a face, you can reshape
an eye, you can reshape a lipwith no you know, no injectables
(13:31):
needed, Right, we can just dostuff with.
You know, with makeup we canmanipulate.
You know, I love that.
It's so good.
I highly recommend makeup.
You know, because I'm a bigchicken and I'm afraid of yes.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So if I want to hide some, it's expensive, but I'm
not against anything like thatat all.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
In fact, I think you know I absolutely do.
It makes you look and feelbeautiful and whatever that
means to you.
So no judgment because, listen,if it's going to make me look
fabulous and really selfless, Iwill do it.
Sign me up.
Who do I need to talk to?
What appointment do I need tomake?
But I'm just saying as far asthe power of makeup, what you
can do with that and justcelebrate beauty and that's so
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important that every woman feelsevery woman feels beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
that who sits in?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
my chair, um, and I would love to be able to, you
know, just kind of share thatwith other makeup artists,
because I feel like sometimesthey don't, they're not sure
where to start, you know.
So I just I love the idea ofhelping.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, there's such a huge need for what you do, cause
it's hard, you know, if youhave an event trying to to get
on your schedule cause you'resuper busy.
I mean I know your book to meand I have to reach out in
advance when I want somethingand it's not like you can just
call the day before I mean.
So we do need more people, butI think what I've seen in the
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industry is you have a makeupartist that learns a certain
technique on the way they lookand it's beautiful, but that's
their color, their bonestructure, and that is not going
to look great on everybody.
So there's a lot to learn inmakeup.
So how have you, how have you,how have you learned all of
(15:12):
these amazing techniques, Shamil?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So sweet.
Well, you know, I'll be honest,I have to give some like credit
to Mac because Mac cosmetics um, when I started, they had these
really cool like intensiveclasses about face shape and eye
shape and shading for a certaintype of shape a face shape,
whether it's a heart, whetherit's an oval, whether it's a
square jaw and I was like I hadno idea there was so many face
shapes and so it was almost likea masterclass, like every few
(15:39):
months with MAC, which was Idon't know if they still do that
anymore.
If there's any Mac artists outthere, just let me know this but
I no longer work with Mac but Ifelt like that was such a great
foundation and also I'm alicensed cosmetologist, so we
did learn a lot about skin andbone structure and things like
that also in cosmetology school.
So I think that was a greatfoundation.
So those two together reallygot like the engine going and
(16:02):
flowing and then you just kindof can go from there, you can.
I started purchasing books fromKevin Aquan and from other
makeup artists that I absolutelylove and back then I feel like
I feel like I'm dating myselflike back there girl before the
internet, but I mean, it was notbefore exactly, but you know
you.
You know these, these makeupbooks by these huge makeup
(16:23):
artists who are like celebritymakeup artists.
You could purchase theseamazing books and they would
break it down for you and theywould do transformations and
show you the power of makeup andthen talk about things like
bone structure and highlightingand contour and it was like I
just ate it all up.
I got every book I couldpossibly get my hands on.
I did.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That is awesome and read them, and reread them and
read them some more and I'd sayyou probably go back and look at
those.
I actually do.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I really recommend that, even if there's a resource
, whether it's a makeup book ora favorite book that you love,
go back to it every now and then, at least once a year.
I have a book list that I gothrough, including makeup books,
because I mean they you watersyour brain right like, oh yeah,
I remember that that specificthing, um.
(17:10):
So yeah, I love revisiting andplus practice, and I say
practice on your face and ifyour friends let you practice on
them, if you want to be amakeup artist or even, but if
you just want to just get betterat your own makeup, you know,
just practice before you go tobed at night, before you wash
your face, you can do whateveryou want to.
It could look crazy, it coulddo whatever.
And and practice that eyeliner,practice that highlighting
contour you're about to washcould look crazy, it could do
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whatever.
And and practice that eyeliner,practice that highlighting
contour you're about to washyour face.
Anyway, it's gonna be okay,nobody's gonna see, no judgment,
yeah, and then just play, youknow, and and with, with, and
give yourself some grace,because it's gonna feel awkward,
it's gonna not, it's gonna feela little like fiddly, but I say
practice because that really iswhat makes um, what makes it
feel more confident when you'regonna go to that event or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Just you know, just practice on your beautiful face,
it's okay, good, but one thingI like that you do is when
you're doing someone's makeupand you're teaching the whole
time.
I love that and you've reallyhelped me be able to apply
makeup so much better.
I've learned and I try toremember those tips, you know,
(18:10):
and I can't quite get the smokyeye that you do on me, but
anyway.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I love a good smoky eye.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's so pretty but it's so hard to do.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
But I don't know how you do it, but you know, I
believe, because right nowyou're sitting before me looking
oh so fabulous, so that intotake that um advice about just
practicing at um practicing umat night and I like to use
something like maybe like abrown or gray.
(18:41):
Don't use black for that smokyeye for first at first and just
kind of practice, and I like touse gel.
I think a gel liner can be aneyeliner, but it can also be a
really easy way to like blendinstead of using a powder, just
practice, and then maybe watch acouple of YouTube videos and
you know I'll work on thegetting one for you there, but
just some tutorials on how to doit and then practice, practice,
(19:02):
practice, because that reallyis what makes you know.
When I first started doing hairand wedding hair OMG girl
listen, it looks crazy, itlooked, it, listen, it looks
crazy it was like it's not soeasy.
When you see these tutorialsand they're like here's where I
started, boom, in 15 secondsthey show you the end result.
You know it takes time, ittakes practice.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Oh, I'm telling you can hardly find anyone that is
able to put the hair up.
Yes, I mean, I talked to myhairdresser, who you know,
Jackie Hill who loves you?
I love her as well, but shewill not attempt to put hair up.
I mean because that truly is anart.
And then the ones who say theycan.
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It looks like a beehive, it'shorrible.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, and I think there's a way to do certain Well
, I shouldn't say a way, Ishould say there's certain.
If you're interested in doingit, then you'll probably learn
more.
But most a lot of hairstylesthat I know they love the cut,
they love the color, they lovethe blow dry, that sort of thing
and, like you said, you knowwhen you, when you, when you
venture into wedding hairstylesthat's a whole other skill set
(20:06):
that you have to learn, you know, on top of our in and of itself
, definitely, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So when you're going to be mentoring or coaching
someone, or, as a consultant, ayounger person, what would you
share with that person that saysyou know what, man, I'd love to
do?
Hair and makeup.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Well, that's a great question, and you know, what I
would tell that person is first,find yourself a mentor, or just
whether that person's um uh ona video or or something that you
can follow, or an influencethat you really love their work.
Um and kind of start there withpracticing Um and um, you know,
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with your friends.
Friends are great for this.
Okay, friends and family arewonderful because they're
usually because they love youand they'll give you grace when
you're like ooh, that's.
You know, we should not put eyeshadow on you, but that's the
really great thing about makeupyou can take it off, you can
take it off.
You know, easy breezy.
So no harm, no foul.
With a little bit of makeupremover, there you go, never
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happens.
You can no foul with a littlebit of makeup remover.
There you go, never happened.
You can start over, yes and sopractice, and I also feel like
if you can get an environmentwhere you're doing makeup, often
to different types of faces um,like a makeup counter or
something like that it'll kindof fast track your way into
learning about different typesof uh, how to celebrate every
type of face, because you'regoing to have lots of different
people come through and that'show I mean I learned at the MAC
(21:32):
counter.
It was so, so there was, so wehad so many wonderful clients
and customers and so and you gotto be able to work on so many
fabulous faces, so that was areally great like learning
ground right there it was like Ilearned a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh yeah, I think that's a great suggestion
because you know people will goto these makeup counters all the
time and want you know, to trydifferent types of makeup, and
it's so nice to have somebody dothat.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
And it's a nice way to you know, also couple it with
products.
So if you want to try a neweyeliner, you know, maybe they
can put the eyeliner on youfirst before you try that like
emerald green or that navy blueeyeliner which, by the way, I
love those two colors and thenbut you know, just that way can
kind of venture into somethingwithout having no commitment yet
.
So it's nice to have someonenow.
(22:20):
Before COVID it was a littlebit more prevalent.
I do notice that after COVIDdoesn't seem to happen as often.
I feel like testers are kind ofbeing removed and not really.
You know, you know they don'treally so, you know, make an
appointment or something likethat.
But I think that's a great stepplace to start.
And if not, start with yourfriends and family you know they
have events or if you just wantto just like, hey, can we come
(22:42):
over Saturday and just play inhair and makeup, thanks, you
know.
Just kind of get the practiceand then also practice on your
own beautiful face.
It's okay.
I mean, it's a good place tostart, especially when you're
kind of playing with productsand that sort of thing.
But you know, I love the ideaof being able to help as many
artists and women as possible.
As far as when I say women, Imean, like you know, women who
(23:03):
want to get brides.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I should say, I should say brides.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But and then I love the idea of also helping women
who, with their social media,like LinkedIn, or because a lot
of times photo shoots and photoshoots really about branding
nowadays, isn't it?
It's about you know, it's aboutyour, how your headshot looks
for your social media accountsand um, but anyway, I just I
love the whole thing of beingable to just just teach and
(23:27):
share what I know and just keepsharing what I know and and if
it helps someone who's special,someone who was like me when I
was like.
I don't know anything about this, but I'd love to learn.
I'd love to get started.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Where do I start?
You know, Steve and I alwaysbranded the people that we like
to hire here at Benchmark ishungry, humble and smart.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh, that's, that's good Hungry, humble and smart.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, that's good.
So how can we reach you, shamil?
How can people get in touchwith, with Shamil McKenzie?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yes, Thank you.
So Shamil McKenziecom is mywebsite and, uh, with a um,
we're getting ready to start ablog, which I'm like a little
nervous about the blogging, butthat'll be the art of
beautifulcom.
So if you can't spell ShamelMcKenzie, that's okay, cause I
know I'm probably the onlyShamel that you know.
But if you go to the art ofbeautiful, you can also find me
(24:18):
there too.
But Shamel McKenziecom is whereit's all going to start
happening.
But that's where I am now and,as you just shoot me, you can
contact me in me through mylittle contact form and I'll get
back to you and be like hey,tell me that you heard me on.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Benchmark Happenings yes, because I know you're going
to share this, so I'm excited.
Well, Shamil, thank you forbeing on the show today.
What my honor and privilege tobe here.
Thank you for having me.
Yes, it was so much fun.
We'll have you back, yay.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
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Jonathan and Steve areresidential mortgage lenders.
They do home loans in NortheastTennessee and they're not only
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We hope you've enjoyed the show.
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Benchmark Happenings.
This is Benchmark Happenings, brought to you by
Jonathan and Steve fromBenchmark Home Loans.
Northeast Tennessee, johnsonCity, kingsport, bristol, the
Tri-Cities One of the mostbeautiful places in the country
to live.
Tons of great things to do andawesome local businesses.
(00:22):
And on this show you'll findout why people are dying to move
to Northeast Tennessee.
And on the way we'll havediscussions about mortgages and
we'll interview people in thereal estate industry.
It's what we do.
This is Benchmark Happenings,brought to you by Benchmark Home
Loans and now your host,christine Reed.
(00:43):
And now your host, christineReed.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Welcome back everybody to another episode of
Benchmark Happenings and thestar of our show today and she
is a star and she's probablygoing to be probably the funnest
guest I've had so far, but Ihave Shamil McKenzie.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So, shamil, thank you .
Well, I think that's like thebest intro ever.
I have a lot to live up to.
Nervous, I'm nervous, oh, mygoodness.
Okay, we got this.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We got it girl.
We got it girl.
So, shamil those of you who donot know Shamil she is an award
winning hair and makeup artistwith many years of experience
and she is truly dedicated toher clients to look and feel
their absolute best.
I can testify to that becauseshe has done makeup and hair for
(01:36):
me many times in the past.
So thank you, shamil.
My pleasure, my friend, oh yes,but you know, as an entrepreneur
, you've truly built asuccessful business and you've
earned recognition like the notbest of weddings award in the
bridal industry.
So we'll share a little bitabout that, because that's a
(01:57):
special award that you'reselected by brides that you have
actually done hair and makeupfor and you're very passionate,
very passionate and you're doingsome coaching now.
So I think I've heard thatthere's going to be a little bit
of a pivot to Shamil's careerpath and so as you empower
(02:19):
wedding professionals to elevatetheir craft, to have a thriving
business and truly create adream wedding, so I'm excited
that for this conversation today, Shamil.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Thank you, oh my goodness, thank you for having
me.
What an honor, what a privilege, what a blessing to be here.
It is an honor.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, the same here, and I know it's taken us over a
year.
I was beginning to think it wasthe same thing with Chris and I
was like, okay, am I ever goingto get these two girls?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yes, she loves you too.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So I love, I love what you're doing, shamil in the
art of beautiful and just.
Your makeup and your techniquesare.
They're unique and I love howyou tailor them to each
individual woman.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Thank you so much.
You know I do my very best tocelebrate every woman's unique
beauty.
I think that's not cookiecutter.
I think you have to really kindof know what know about some
facial structure and bonestructure and you want to
celebrate eyes and make them pop.
Or and I also think it's aboutskincare too making sure you
take good care of the skin andthen, on top of the skincare, do
(03:34):
beautiful makeup to the best ofmy ability, and I just love
making women look and feelbeautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's just like the best thing ever Well, and you
know what and that you can tellthat is your passion and you
truly care about your clients.
You know, with sitting in thatchair in your glam room or if
you're on site, you know it'salways.
It's just a special experience.
So, shamel, how did you getstarted in this industry?
(03:59):
So that's a great question.
So I've always been that friendwho, when we came over to like
go out or have gone have somefun at a party, a friend's
birthday party, whateverindustry.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So that's a great question.
So I've always been that friendwho, when we came over, to like
go out or have gone have somefun at a party a friend's
birthday party or whatever.
I would be that person.
Everybody come to my house andI would do their hair and makeup
and then we'd jet out.
So my mom was always like youknow, I've always figured that
this was going to be the pathyou chose, because I've always
loved it and it's been so muchfun.
And, you know, thank you tothose friends.
If you guys are listening,thank you for letting me like
(04:25):
experiment on you.
I'm like let's try some goldeyeliner, you know, but what a
blessing to be able to just kindof have a mom too that supports
you know she was like go for it, you know.
And so I started with Barbie.
You know the Barbie head, ifanyone has ever used those.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I had a Barbie head and you know what?
I still have my Barbie head.
She is in a box in the originalbox in the basement.
But yes, I still have theoriginal Barbie head that's
where I started listen.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I love that.
I'm gonna have to.
We're gonna have to go and likevisit that box, just just just
to look at her, just for amoment, oh yeah and reminisce,
reminisce, although I'm prettysure that my Barbie I don't know
where she is, but if she is,she's probably got a little bit
of melted hair, because I triedto curl her hair once that's not
actual hair, okay, so it justmelted but, um, so I've got.
I've had several, you know,barbie heads that I went through
(05:16):
on my journey, but I love thatso much, I think that's so cool,
and Barbie at the time I guesseven now is still just like that
, that idea of, like you know,fun and her shoes and her
wardrobe and beauty.
And now the iterations ofBarbie are really cool and when
I was growing up, my mom wouldalways get me brown Barbies,
(05:36):
which is really cool.
So I would have, like you know,all these beautiful brown
Barbies where my mom was like,hey, I want to try and get you
Barbies that look as close toyou as possible.
Um, and it was just a reallycool thing to have, um, these
beautiful dolls that, um,celebrated my skin tone and my
face shape and my hair color andthat sort of thing.
So that was really cool Mom,good job, good job I love her.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yes, yeah, and I know that you lost your mom about a
year ago, about a year ago.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I know, man it is.
You know, if you've everexperienced the loss of just
someone who was just yourbiggest fan and just your solid
foundation.
But you know, those type ofpeople we're just blessed to
have them.
If they happen to be our motheror our father, we're blessed to
(06:26):
have those people in our lives,and so she just poured so much
goodness into me and so I feellike, you know, she's still with
me in a way right, because, um,those seeds that she planted
and watered and threw somesunshine on, um, I feel like
that, those, those, um, thatwisdom and that love is still
with me today.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, yeah.
Well, I know that was a verydifficult journey and it
continues to be so.
So as a child you were, youwere experimenting, you were the
, the girlfriend that everybodycame to.
So what made you decide to?
You know what?
I think I'll turn this into abusiness.
So talk about that journey,Shamil.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's a really great question.
So I was we'll fast forward alittle bit and I was working at
the Mac counter, a local Maccounter here at Johnson City
Mall Yay, shout out to JohnsonCity Mall.
But it was a coworker who wasjust like hey, I'm getting
married and I love the way youdo hair, love the way you do
makeup.
Would you be interested indoing my hair and makeup?
(07:27):
And I'm like yes, absolutely.
And then she was like how muchwould that be?
And I was like I have no clue.
But that's kind of like thevery first client that I had,
like paying customer that I hadand didn't even realize that I
could make a business out ofthat you know I don't have
anyone.
I'm the first person in myfamily to own a business, to
(07:47):
start a business, to even go forit in any way.
So and again, my mom supportedme the whole way.
She was just like go for it,you do it, you know, you start
doing research.
And then there was a whole lotabout beauty business or how to
start, not a lot on YouTube.
Now that's changed.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I hope to even change that landscape even more.
So how long have you been doingthis, Shamayle?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So I like to say 15 plus years, because I don't want
to go any further than that.
It's actually been more like 20, but 15 plus sounds so much
better.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm going to remember that.
How long have you been in sales, Christine?
Oh, 15 plus yeah, 15 plus seethat sounds better, right?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
it's like if you say 20 plus, they're like wait.
So the question to me comes inexactly how I'm like?
I am like uh 29 forever forever, ever, ever.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Southern ladies.
Don't ever ask a southern ladytheir age, ever, ever.
That is taboo, it's totallywe're just that we're just
unique and so you started thekind of there wasn't a lot out
there, so you had to kind ofbuild this from the ground up
yes, yes, and so it started withjust kind of asking some peers
(08:59):
who are in business.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It's like how do I get contracts?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
How smart you know what do?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I do, you know Um, and so that's how it started too
, because I really didn't knowUm and I just want to kind of be
able.
Even then I knew that I want todeliver um, just excellent
service and quality service.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I feel like customer service is so important.
When someone's investing in you, you want to kind of make sure
that, um, they're getting likethe best experience possible,
and I want to learn how to dothat.
And I think that's what kind ofyou know not what kind of it's,
what kind of you know made mewant to pivot into.
I've kind of done the businessthe hair and makeup thing and on
location thing.
I love weddings and I love doingphoto shoots.
(09:36):
I love them and but I realizedthere was a need in the market
because there's so many hair andmakeup artists who contact me,
email me and they're like so I'dlike to get started, love to do
weddings.
Where do I start?
How do I get paid?
How do I?
And I was like you know, I seea need in the market and really
my ideal client is is shamel.
When she first started, youknow it's like, you know it was
(09:58):
like um, so contracts, what'sthat supposed to say in that
contract?
You know, and then um you knowcause you gotta protect yourself
too, you know, and so I didn'tknow.
But you know what a privilegeand honor that I had so many
wonderful friends who helped mealong the way, um, and I would
love to make a positive impactand help others and also I'd
love to help, you know, futurebrides and women, just you know
(10:22):
kind of help create their dreamwedding day with their what you
know, future brides and women,just you know, kind of help
create their dream wedding daywith their wedding.
You know, with withspecifically with the beauty,
with wedding hair, weddingmakeup, absolutely.
But yeah, I just think it's aand, of course, east Tennessee
is like I feel like the mostbeautiful place to get married.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
These we have so many gorgeous venues here we do.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I mean absolutely stunning, and so, of course, you
want to get married here.
It's amazing, it's so beautifulBarn venues.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, a friend of mine.
She's a wedding planner.
I'm sure you know her, JamieJackson.
Yeah, I've had her on thispodcast before, and there was a
couple that flew from Francethat wanted to get married here
and she did their wedding.
I mean it's like really France,Okay, I mean it's like really
France, okay, well, you know.
But so it sounds like you'rewanting to now venture out into
(11:08):
as a consultant.
Yes, to a lot of these up andcoming entrepreneurs who want to
have a hair and makeup, beauty,beauty related business where
they're doing on site.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Right, yes, yes, because I want to just come
alongside them and help them tocreate their dream business and
that's specifically their dreambeauty business.
Um, cause, that's where, that's, that's what I know.
But, um, I just feel likethere's a.
There's like there is a there'sa space in the market for this,
because there's not a whole lotof information for the business
side of it.
There's lots of tutorials, butI feel like there's tutorials
(11:43):
and there's one-on-oneexperience, and one-on-one
because to someone to seesomeone doing something, but do
they have the same skin tone asyou, the same eye shape as you,
the same bone structure as you,then it kind of changes a little
bit.
You want to change yourhighlight and contour based on
that.
You know and then, really,really.
My focus is don't be a cookiecutter, you know.
(12:04):
Don't just do what you see.
Tailor it to that specificbeautiful face.
You know.
Really celebrate what you knowthey have like, whether it's
like their bone structure, forinstance, or their how their
their lips are shaped, or if youwant to, you know, accentuate
the cupid bow, or if you want tomake the eyes pop, or um, it's
all kinds of wonderful thingsyou can do.
But that really celebrates anindividual's style and beauty.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
See, I love that, I love that.
And because no one has theperfect face, you know we all
have.
You know we're our worstcritics, especially as women.
We look in the mirror as we'reputting our makeup on, we think,
oh my, I would like to changethis, change that, and I think
it's so important that everyone,because we're all designed
(12:47):
uniquely by God- our creator,amen, girl and he made.
All of us are beautiful insideand out, depending on who we
turn out to be our character,but I think there's always I
love what you see in others thatthere's something beautiful to
celebrate, absolutely, whetherit's every single face,
absolutely, every single facecan be.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I can celebrate their beauty.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I think sometimes what we do is we see a tutorial
or we see something that maybewe could try, and then you try
it and it doesn't look exactlythe same.
But you know there's makeup isreally powerful.
It's because you can reallyreshape a face, you can reshape
an eye, you can reshape a lipwith no you know, no injectables
(13:31):
needed, Right, we can just dostuff with.
You know, with makeup we canmanipulate.
You know, I love that.
It's so good.
I highly recommend makeup.
You know, because I'm a bigchicken and I'm afraid of yes.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So if I want to hide some, it's expensive, but I'm
not against anything like thatat all.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
In fact, I think you know I absolutely do.
It makes you look and feelbeautiful and whatever that
means to you.
So no judgment because, listen,if it's going to make me look
fabulous and really selfless, Iwill do it.
Sign me up.
Who do I need to talk to?
What appointment do I need tomake?
But I'm just saying as far asthe power of makeup, what you
can do with that and justcelebrate beauty and that's so
(14:09):
important that every woman feelsevery woman feels beautiful.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
that who sits in?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
my chair, um, and I would love to be able to, you
know, just kind of share thatwith other makeup artists,
because I feel like sometimesthey don't, they're not sure
where to start, you know.
So I just I love the idea ofhelping.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, there's such a huge need for what you do, cause
it's hard, you know, if youhave an event trying to to get
on your schedule cause you'resuper busy.
I mean I know your book to meand I have to reach out in
advance when I want somethingand it's not like you can just
call the day before I mean.
So we do need more people, butI think what I've seen in the
(14:48):
industry is you have a makeupartist that learns a certain
technique on the way they lookand it's beautiful, but that's
their color, their bonestructure, and that is not going
to look great on everybody.
So there's a lot to learn inmakeup.
So how have you, how have you,how have you learned all of
(15:12):
these amazing techniques, Shamil?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So sweet.
Well, you know, I'll be honest,I have to give some like credit
to Mac because Mac cosmetics um, when I started, they had these
really cool like intensiveclasses about face shape and eye
shape and shading for a certaintype of shape a face shape,
whether it's a heart, whetherit's an oval, whether it's a
square jaw and I was like I hadno idea there was so many face
shapes and so it was almost likea masterclass, like every few
(15:39):
months with MAC, which was Idon't know if they still do that
anymore.
If there's any Mac artists outthere, just let me know this but
I no longer work with Mac but Ifelt like that was such a great
foundation and also I'm alicensed cosmetologist, so we
did learn a lot about skin andbone structure and things like
that also in cosmetology school.
So I think that was a greatfoundation.
So those two together reallygot like the engine going and
(16:02):
flowing and then you just kindof can go from there, you can.
I started purchasing books fromKevin Aquan and from other
makeup artists that I absolutelylove and back then I feel like
I feel like I'm dating myselflike back there girl before the
internet, but I mean, it was notbefore exactly, but you know
you.
You know these, these makeupbooks by these huge makeup
(16:23):
artists who are like celebritymakeup artists.
You could purchase theseamazing books and they would
break it down for you and theywould do transformations and
show you the power of makeup andthen talk about things like
bone structure and highlightingand contour and it was like I
just ate it all up.
I got every book I couldpossibly get my hands on.
I did.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That is awesome and read them, and reread them and
read them some more and I'd sayyou probably go back and look at
those.
I actually do.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I really recommend that, even if there's a resource
, whether it's a makeup book ora favorite book that you love,
go back to it every now and then, at least once a year.
I have a book list that I gothrough, including makeup books,
because I mean they you watersyour brain right like, oh yeah,
I remember that that specificthing, um.
(17:10):
So yeah, I love revisiting andplus practice, and I say
practice on your face and ifyour friends let you practice on
them, if you want to be amakeup artist or even, but if
you just want to just get betterat your own makeup, you know,
just practice before you go tobed at night, before you wash
your face, you can do whateveryou want to.
It could look crazy, it coulddo whatever.
And and practice that eyeliner,practice that highlighting
contour you're about to washcould look crazy, it could do
(17:31):
whatever.
And and practice that eyeliner,practice that highlighting
contour you're about to washyour face.
Anyway, it's gonna be okay,nobody's gonna see, no judgment,
yeah, and then just play, youknow, and and with, with, and
give yourself some grace,because it's gonna feel awkward,
it's gonna not, it's gonna feela little like fiddly, but I say
practice because that really iswhat makes um, what makes it
feel more confident when you'regonna go to that event or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Just you know, just practice on your beautiful face,
it's okay, good, but one thingI like that you do is when
you're doing someone's makeupand you're teaching the whole
time.
I love that and you've reallyhelped me be able to apply
makeup so much better.
I've learned and I try toremember those tips, you know,
(18:10):
and I can't quite get the smokyeye that you do on me, but
anyway.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I love a good smoky eye.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's so pretty but it's so hard to do.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
But I don't know how you do it, but you know, I
believe, because right nowyou're sitting before me looking
oh so fabulous, so that intotake that um advice about just
practicing at um practicing umat night and I like to use
something like maybe like abrown or gray.
(18:41):
Don't use black for that smokyeye for first at first and just
kind of practice, and I like touse gel.
I think a gel liner can be aneyeliner, but it can also be a
really easy way to like blendinstead of using a powder, just
practice, and then maybe watch acouple of YouTube videos and
you know I'll work on thegetting one for you there, but
just some tutorials on how to doit and then practice, practice,
(19:02):
practice, because that reallyis what makes you know.
When I first started doing hairand wedding hair OMG girl
listen, it looks crazy, itlooked, it, listen, it looks
crazy it was like it's not soeasy.
When you see these tutorialsand they're like here's where I
started, boom, in 15 secondsthey show you the end result.
You know it takes time, ittakes practice.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Oh, I'm telling you can hardly find anyone that is
able to put the hair up.
Yes, I mean, I talked to myhairdresser, who you know,
Jackie Hill who loves you?
I love her as well, but shewill not attempt to put hair up.
I mean because that truly is anart.
And then the ones who say theycan.
(19:42):
It looks like a beehive, it'shorrible.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, and I think there's a way to do certain Well
, I shouldn't say a way, Ishould say there's certain.
If you're interested in doingit, then you'll probably learn
more.
But most a lot of hairstylesthat I know they love the cut,
they love the color, they lovethe blow dry, that sort of thing
and, like you said, you knowwhen you, when you, when you
venture into wedding hairstylesthat's a whole other skill set
(20:06):
that you have to learn, you know, on top of our in and of itself
, definitely, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So when you're going to be mentoring or coaching
someone, or, as a consultant, ayounger person, what would you
share with that person that saysyou know what, man, I'd love to
do?
Hair and makeup.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Well, that's a great question, and you know, what I
would tell that person is first,find yourself a mentor, or just
whether that person's um uh ona video or or something that you
can follow, or an influencethat you really love their work.
Um and kind of start there withpracticing Um and um, you know,
(20:47):
with your friends.
Friends are great for this.
Okay, friends and family arewonderful because they're
usually because they love youand they'll give you grace when
you're like ooh, that's.
You know, we should not put eyeshadow on you, but that's the
really great thing about makeupyou can take it off, you can
take it off.
You know, easy breezy.
So no harm, no foul.
With a little bit of makeupremover, there you go, never
(21:09):
happens.
You can no foul with a littlebit of makeup remover.
There you go, never happened.
You can start over, yes and sopractice, and I also feel like
if you can get an environmentwhere you're doing makeup, often
to different types of faces um,like a makeup counter or
something like that it'll kindof fast track your way into
learning about different typesof uh, how to celebrate every
type of face, because you'regoing to have lots of different
people come through and that'show I mean I learned at the MAC
(21:32):
counter.
It was so, so there was, so wehad so many wonderful clients
and customers and so and you gotto be able to work on so many
fabulous faces, so that was areally great like learning
ground right there it was like Ilearned a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh yeah, I think that's a great suggestion
because you know people will goto these makeup counters all the
time and want you know, to trydifferent types of makeup, and
it's so nice to have somebody dothat.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
And it's a nice way to you know, also couple it with
products.
So if you want to try a neweyeliner, you know, maybe they
can put the eyeliner on youfirst before you try that like
emerald green or that navy blueeyeliner which, by the way, I
love those two colors and thenbut you know, just that way can
kind of venture into somethingwithout having no commitment yet
.
So it's nice to have someonenow.
(22:20):
Before COVID it was a littlebit more prevalent.
I do notice that after COVIDdoesn't seem to happen as often.
I feel like testers are kind ofbeing removed and not really.
You know, you know they don'treally so, you know, make an
appointment or something likethat.
But I think that's a great stepplace to start.
And if not, start with yourfriends and family you know they
have events or if you just wantto just like, hey, can we come
(22:42):
over Saturday and just play inhair and makeup, thanks, you
know.
Just kind of get the practiceand then also practice on your
own beautiful face.
It's okay.
I mean, it's a good place tostart, especially when you're
kind of playing with productsand that sort of thing.
But you know, I love the ideaof being able to help as many
artists and women as possible.
As far as when I say women, Imean, like you know, women who
(23:03):
want to get brides.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I should say, I should say brides.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But and then I love the idea of also helping women
who, with their social media,like LinkedIn, or because a lot
of times photo shoots and photoshoots really about branding
nowadays, isn't it?
It's about you know, it's aboutyour, how your headshot looks
for your social media accountsand um, but anyway, I just I
love the whole thing of beingable to just just teach and
(23:27):
share what I know and just keepsharing what I know and and if
it helps someone who's special,someone who was like me when I
was like.
I don't know anything about this, but I'd love to learn.
I'd love to get started.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Where do I start?
You know, Steve and I alwaysbranded the people that we like
to hire here at Benchmark ishungry, humble and smart.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh, that's, that's good Hungry, humble and smart.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, that's good.
So how can we reach you, shamil?
How can people get in touchwith, with Shamil McKenzie?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yes, Thank you.
So Shamil McKenziecom is mywebsite and, uh, with a um,
we're getting ready to start ablog, which I'm like a little
nervous about the blogging, butthat'll be the art of
beautifulcom.
So if you can't spell ShamelMcKenzie, that's okay, cause I
know I'm probably the onlyShamel that you know.
But if you go to the art ofbeautiful, you can also find me
(24:18):
there too.
But Shamel McKenziecom is whereit's all going to start
happening.
But that's where I am now and,as you just shoot me, you can
contact me in me through mylittle contact form and I'll get
back to you and be like hey,tell me that you heard me on.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Benchmark Happenings yes, because I know you're going
to share this, so I'm excited.
Well, Shamil, thank you forbeing on the show today.
What my honor and privilege tobe here.
Thank you for having me.
Yes, it was so much fun.
We'll have you back, yay.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
This has been Benchmark Happenings, brought to
you by Jonathan Tipton andSteve Reed from Benchmark Home
Loans.
Jonathan and Steve areresidential mortgage lenders.
They do home loans in NortheastTennessee and they're not only
licensed in Tennessee butFlorida, georgia, south Carolina
and Virginia.
We hope you've enjoyed the show.
(25:12):
If you did make sure to likerate and review.
Our passion is NortheastTennessee, so if you have
questions about mortgages, callus at 423-491-5405, and the
website iswwwJonathanAndStevecom.
Thanks for being with us andwe'll see you next time on
(25:34):
Benchmark Happenings.
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