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April 22, 2025 65 mins

In this thought-provoking episode of Beneath the Headlines, host Mike Woodruff sits down with pastor, speaker, and bestselling author John Ortberg to discuss his latest book, Steps: How the 12 Steps Can Help Anyone Grow Spiritually. With over 40 years in ministry and a deep focus on spiritual formation, John shares profound insights on how the principles of Alcoholics Anonymous can be transformative for everyone—whether struggling with addiction or simply seeking deeper spiritual growth.

🔹 Key Points Discussed:
- The 12 Steps as a Spiritual Pathway – How these steps, rooted in Christian discipleship, offer a framework for surrender, humility, and transformation.
- Addiction vs. Sin – Is addiction a disease, a moral failing, or something deeper? John explores the intersection of psychology, theology, and human struggle.
- The Role of Willpower & Surrender – Why willpower alone fails and how surrendering to God’s will brings true freedom.
- Habits & Spiritual Formation – Practical ways to reshape daily habits to align with God’s vision for our lives.
- Confession & Community – The power of vulnerability and accountability in spiritual growth.
- Scripture & Renewing the Mind – How memorizing and meditating on Scripture reshapes our consciousness.
- Gratitude in Suffering – John reflects on finding God’s presence in life’s deepest challenges.

📖 About John Ortberg:
John is the founder of Become New, a ministry focused on daily spiritual growth (becomingnew.com). A longtime student of Dallas Willard’s teachings, he blends psychological insight with deep theological wisdom.

💡 Who Is This For?
If you’ve ever felt stuck in repetitive struggles, wondered how to move from head knowledge to heart change, or questioned why traditional discipleship often feels shallow—this conversation is for you.

🎧 Listen to the full episode and let us know: Which of the 12 Steps resonates most with you? Drop a comment below!

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