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Speaker 1 (00:06):
High tribe. We've missed you a lot, and we're so
excited to talk to you today. Something incredible happened earlier
today where I arrived via one of those companies FedEx EPs.
I don't even know Ann's book has come, and while
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it doesn't release until the twenty fourth of this month
of January, I have some advanced copies and I just
called Ryan and said, Ryan, we have to share this
with Ann's tribe when I open the book, because when
I open this package, I can promise you Ann would
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have been today would have been It would have been
such a great day for us. I can picture exactly
exactly what she would have done, and she would have
held this package, and for those of you listening and
not watching, you can watch on the YouTube. I'm holding
the package in my hand, and Anne would have been.
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She would have just been like jumping up and down
with delight and excitement and hugging me, and I just
I can picture her. I just can picture how excited
she would be. And so I didn't want to make
light of this moment of opening this book and looking
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at it and holding it in my hands and thinking
about what this would have meant to Anne. What it
does mean to Anne, and I wanted to share that
with you.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
All.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
All right, I'm putting down my stone. I'm still clutching
those daily Okay. So come from Start Media, our publisher.
Oh my gosh, I'm holding it. I'm peeking at it,
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I'm pulling it out. I'm holding it to my heart. Girl.
You did it. Wow. Wow, it's a book. This is
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oh man, oh Man, Yeah, gosh. This memoir by Anne
Haysh is as personal as it gets, offering a peek
inside the mind of the late Emmy Award winning actress, director,
and author of the New York Times bestseller Call Me Crazy.
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Call Me Anne is the sequel to Haiti's first book,
Call Me Crazy, a memoir consisting of personal antidotes of
her rise to fame, how Harrison Ford became, her onset mentor,
her relationship with Ellen Degeneress, her encounter with Harvey Weinstein,
her history of childhood abuse, her relationship with God, her
journey to love herself, and more. Part memoir, part self acceptance,
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workk work book. Anne's personal stories are interwoven with poems, prompts,
exercises that got her through tough times. Readers are encouraged
to try them as they navigate their own journey to
self love, acceptance, forgiveness, and faith. Oh my goodness, so
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so girl.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I want to hold it, yes, putting it up here
like some of those people that we interview that have
their books in the background.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's incredible to it's incredible to think how much a
part of this book the tribe is when we started
talking with you and talking about how to live better
and be happier, and you know, especially in our final
season last year or whatever year it was, when we
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brought specialists on to help us live a better life
and to overcome difficult times. It really inspired an idea
that she already had about this book, but really really
shaped it in a way, in a meaningful way. I
just which is why I wanted to share it with
you all, because you're such a part of the way
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the book ended up coming out. It ended up being
really her love letter to all of you and all
of her fans on how she overcame challenges and difficult
times and still managed to be positive and hopeful. And
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it's very interesting that in these last couple of months
that have been so difficult, I have been able to
draw on a lot of the concepts from the book
and a lot of the things from our podcast. I
had to find a way to kind of tie up
the book for her, because when she passed, it was
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in the final couple of weeks before the book was due.
It actually was the final week the book was due,
so she was finishing the book in probably that day
she worked on the book, and that was probably how
she was going to spend the rest of her day
is working on the book, and so I had to
find ways to finish it, and she really helped guide
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me to that. And the irony of it was is
that I was overcoming something really incredible and this book
helped me to come out the other side of it
still with my kindness, I hope, intact, with my hopefulness,
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I hope intact certainly with my truthfulness intact. And I
just think it's going to be a beautiful tool for you.
And I think that everyone's just going to, i'm sorry
to say, just love her and miss her even more
after reading this book. But so many people don't know
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the side of her that I think you all know,
and so this is a beautiful way for people to
get to know how kind her heart was and the
true triumph of her staying so positive and so optimistic
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when she was faced with so much set back and unkindness.
So to stay kind in a world when people aren't
always kind to you is a pretty big feat and
a lesson for all of us that I hope we
can all take with us as something we learned from her.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Maybe I'll ask you some questions now, because you are
a big part of finishing this and getting it out there,
you know, Okay, I guess. I remember being at her
apartment in the Eastern and holding a book that she
had handwritten. At one point. Was that basically the making
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of this?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yes, she infuriatingly hand wrote everything, and so she would
just send me pages and pages of texts of the
book and be like, can you edit this? And I'm like,
oh my god, can I edit this? I mean, fortunately
I could read her writing finally, but but you know,
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and I didn't edit it much. These are all her words,
but you know, she just wanted my opinion, and if
you know, there was any you know, but but it
was everything was handwritten. That's how she worked. But it
was also part of her process. I came to learn
that she handwrites it first, and then she ultimately got
it into a computer. So she would handwrite it and
then she would put it into.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The computer she was typing it and she would that would.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
For this book, that was her process. She didn't always
do that, but for this book, her process was to
write it by hand, and then once she typed it
into the computer, she saw it in a new way
and made made her edits there. It was kind of
like her second draft, but she needed to feel it
organically and naturally by writing it long hand. First.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Interesting was this the same Is this the same book
as the one? And that I don't know if it
was the same time, but like you read it one
direction and then you flipped it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
She wanted that. She wanted that to be the case.
She wanted that to be the case. And there's a
there's a part in the book where it's her do
you remember her commitments?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, yes I do.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, so so those are in there, and.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Maybe explain what she wanted because I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It's yeah, okay, yeah, let's go back to that. So
she wanted I think I I wrote I wrote the
epilogue to this book, and I think I might have
mentioned it in the epilogue. I don't I don't recall
if I did or if I didn't, But but she
she was big on the flip side of things, and
so the the she wanted the book to the first
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half be one way and then you turned it over
in the second half you flipped it. You know. We
we had fun discussions with our publisher on that and
they're like, what, No.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's like confusing as you're reading it and you see
upside down text on the other that was.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
She was always so there could be more Anne.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Right, Yeah, exactly, And that's why it was so fun
to hold her copy handwritten right of that and just
being like, what, how did you do this?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes? Yes, at one point we wanted to have like
a little littler book inserted in, you know, because she
likes little books. So that's why the book is tiny,
and so oh man, yes, a lot went into a
lot went into that book. And I just it's such
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a loss for me right now to know what a
fun day she would have had, and how much how
excited there's the chills, how excited she would be, and
how proud she would be, and this was really a
labor of love. For her and something that was so
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important for her to get out there, and and and
and she had a lot to say and and it's
interesting that what she had to say in the end
was about about overcoming and getting to the other side.
And I don't know if this is too over the
top or too corny, but like I think, in her passing,
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she did just that, she overcame this beautiful life that
she had here. And you know, she did get to
the other side in a place where she can fly
free and be exactly who she wants to be without
the restraints that this society puts on us and put
on her.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I think, yeah, I think that makes sense. Tell me,
tell me about this photo. Do you know anything about
this photo?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Of course I know everything about that photo. That photo
was taken by may Win. This photo here, yes, the
cover photo. She was somebody who took, uh took a
lot of photographs us for the podcast, for for Anne,
and also very importantly the photo that we used. I
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really wanted to have a photo that had her hair
and makeup done by our dear friends John Leichfeld and
Gregory Arlt. So they did her hair and makeup in
that photo. And I actually Yeah, she loved that photo.
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It's great, and that was taken at silver Lake, at
the house at Silver Lake.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yes, yeah, what's this necklace that she's told I.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Believe I believe that necklace is a gift from Atlas's dad.
I could be wrong, but I think it is. And yeah,
I had, I had. I had a hard time picking
the photos we did. We talked abound him. There's so
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many and taking a lot of ones. And she also
didn't want her photos overly retouched because she wanted to
be real. So you'll see she's that it's not overly retouched.
It's it's who she was and she was beautiful and
didn't need retouching really. But but yeah, it's an it's
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it's it's a photo that because Anne could look like
so many you know, she was so good at posing.
And but but that picture, that picture looks like looks
like Ann. And yeah, yes, I wish I could open
it and read more of it, but the book isn't
out yet, so I'm not allowed to get a peek.
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I'm fanning it for those of you listening, you can't
really see somebody's gonna pause at be like but on
January twenty fourth at seven pm in Los Angeles at
the Grove the Barnes and Nobles at the Grove, I'm
going to be doing a book signing. Uh. And you
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can buy tickets to that event on eventbrite dot com.
And the ticket is where it's not really a ticket.
You're basically there's a head count and they can't let
too many people in, so the ticket just buys you
the book. And it was this is a funny story.
You guys will all appreciate this. The publisher organized this
book reading and said, you know, we're going to have
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a book reading and a book signing. And I was
thinking to myself, you know, dummy, like a book signing,
Like how are they going to pull that? Like a
like I hate to break it? Like how? Yeah? I
was like how, Like that's there's Jesus did they miss
the met like and then and then they said no, Heather,
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you're signing the book and I'm like oh, and and
it took me a minute to catch up. And then
it made perfect sense for me because I know I
knew it immediately. What I'm what I'm going to sign.
I'm going to sign what I signed so many things
Heather for Anne and and so uh you know also
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in in and I think I might have mentioned this
somewhere along the way. I don't know if it was
in social media or if it was on the last
podcast that we did. But one of the things that
you know, I say that I feel like I've really,
I really embody Anne. Now. I feel like she is
with me all of the time. And one of the
ways that she's really with me is that I have
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that is my dog, all right, sorry. One of the
ways that Anne is with me is is through this
new way I have it looking at everything and all
the challenges and all the new experiences of things that
I have to do, like look to go and do
a book signing at the grove in front of all
these people and and speak about and and and I
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I you would I would think that that would be
intimidating or I would be afraid. And I just I
have no fear about doing anything, like I'm just I'm
gonna be fine, and I know exactly what to say
about her and and even if it's you know, any
even things that aren't related to her in business in life,
I just my fear has gone away. And it occurred
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to me at one point recently, I'm like, hmm, Heather,
who else does that sound like? Who else had zero
fear about doing anything? Anything? And so I've I've in
some way She's given me that incredible, incredible gift in
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her passing, and I am very grateful for it. And
I will use it to do crazy see shit and
not be afraid. And and it's a it's a beautiful
thing because if you take fear away, you can do anything. Man,
you can do anything. Who cares what anybody thinks? Who cares?
If I don't do it? Well, who cares? I'm just
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gonna do it. So so yes, and and and you
know I was somebody who was you know, I would
never describe myself as timid. But but I'm cautious, and
I'm I'm concerned, and I just I'm I'm I'm going.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
For it, zero fucks.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Zero fucks. I have no more fucks to give. And
and yeah, super empowering and and and I will. I
will live my life that way to honor her. And
I hope that everybody who reads this book takes away
a piece of that as well, because you know, what,
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if you live, if you live kind, if you live honest,
if you live joyful, like, what is there to be
afraid of? Nothing's gonna nothing's gonna come for you. And
if it does, you know, oh well, Amen's sister m
h that's what she would have said to you. Just
channeled her too. Look at that. Feel well. It feels
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really good to be talking to you guys again. And
and and we hope to we hope to come back
to you. We'll see what's happening on that front. And
we're just couldn't be more appreciative of all the messages,
so many messages from you all that have been so
comforting and and and and kind and and and and
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you know what, you guys are probably a big part
of my fear factor too, or lack thereof, because you
guys have given me, given me such support and given
and such support, and we appreciate it so much. And
we look forward to continuing our tribe. I hope you know,
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if you're not following us on Instagram, I'm trying to
post things there that will continue to inspire us and
to continue our conversation and posting things from past guests
that that you know, keeps our mission of helping us
all to live just a better life and be happier.
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So we love you and we miss you, and I
hope you guys all go out and get your copy
of this book. If you can't go to the book signing,
you can get it on Amazon. You can pre order
it now or get it when it comes out on
the twenty fourth. Yeah, and would want you all to
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read it. And and that's it. That's it. This is
our emergency podcast has has come to an end. I
guess all right bye. We love you. M