May 18, 2024 • 24 mins
Imagine transforming your life through the power of habits; it's not just a dream but a journey we embark on with David Delrahim, a wellness visionary who illustrates the profound impact of including loved ones in our pursuit of health.
With a rich background as the executive producer of the American Health Journal, Roland has seen the landscape of health evolve, but today's conversation digs deeper, exploring how personal wellness can become a shared voyage, leading to lasting change within our inner circles. David shares a compelling narrative of a family's transformation, igniting a spark that resonates with the idea that wellness is an infectious, collective experience.
This isn't just another conversation; it's an inspiring session that could very well catalyze a wellness revolution in your life. Join us and witness the contagious nature of positive change as David and Roland explain why your personal belief system might just be the cornerstone of collective wellbeing.
From the producers of PBS's American Health Journal and Innovations in Medicine. Thank you for listening to Better Wellness.
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Roland Perez (00:02):
We all have good habits and some bad habits.
The good habit can transformyour life for the better, but a
bad habit can destroy your life.
Divorcing a bad habit isdifficult, but through
self-reflection, some meditationand appreciation of yourself,
there is a way.
Welcome to Better Wellness.
(00:25):
I'm your host, Roland Perez,and we're listening to a podcast
that explores the newestinnovations in true wellness.
As the executive producer ofthe American Health Journal for
more than 25 years, I'veproduced over 500 30-minute
award-winning television showsthat air nationally on PBS with
an audience of over 100 millionviewers.
(00:46):
But better wellness is morethan all that Not only keeping
your body healthy, butdeveloping a mindset and balance
that prevents illness.
Our guests are experiencedexperts in the world of staying
healthy, young and well.
And let's start.
Our first guest is DavidDelrahim, a friend and a
(01:08):
visionary, and an expert inwellness.
Hello, David, I wanted to talkto you today about involving
others in your wellness journeyand divorcing some of the bad
habits that surround you.
So many times people go intodoing something in wellness, but
(01:31):
it's usually by themselves.
They've made an individualdecision to do that.
Unfortunately, they have afamily, they have a wife, they
have a husband.
They have to involve them in it.
And the wonder is how do you dothat?
How do you get people, yourfriends, your dear friends, your
(01:56):
wife, your relatives tounderstand that you're going
through this journey and whatthey can do to help you in this
journey?
David Delrahim (02:04):
You know, I believe that we all have
purposes on planet Earth, justlike everything else.
So nothing could exist withouta purpose.
We have different purposes inlife.
We know that as human, we areall interconnected and we need
(02:30):
each other and we all carrycertain consciousness and when
we all come together, thatconsciousness is there.
But we are relying oncollective consciousness, which
is a different consciousnessthan an individual consciousness
(02:52):
.
We just have to believe andknow that the principle of
creation we're born free theprinciple of creation we're born
free Everything is subject tothe choices that we make.
(03:13):
We are inner connected.
There's a consciousness,there's a collective
consciousness and it's a journeyof life.
Roland Perez (03:22):
So what you're saying is just like when
Christianity started first youbecome a Christian, first you
have the belief yourself, andthat consciousness will grow to
your family.
It will grow to other people.
First you have to take care ofyourself as an individual, and
(03:43):
then your family will come intoit from your belief.
David Delrahim (03:49):
They do or they don't.
Sometimes they do, sometimesthey don't Depends upon where
they are along the journey oflife.
Number one it depends upontheir desire and it depends upon
their capacity.
Then they choose again choiceright Whether they want to be
(04:16):
part of it or they're not.
Or maybe they're part of it.
They're not part of it todayand as they go through the
process of evolution andincreasing their capacity, they
will be part of it at certaincapacity some other time into
the future.
But you cannot force anything.
(04:37):
It has to happen naturally.
Roland Perez (04:41):
One of my friends' wife was ill.
One of my friends' wife was illand she took on a wellness
journey to help herself in theproblems that she was having.
She would get up in the morningand she would do Pilates and
(05:08):
she would juice and she would dothings that she had never done
before in her life.
Her husband was standing therewatching her go through this and
one morning she sat down to doa drink and he walked up and
said make two.
And then three or four weekslater he joined her in Pilates
and then yoga and little bylittle he joined her to live
with her and to help her withher journey.
But when the cancer was overand the problem was stopped, it
(05:31):
didn't stop.
They were together in thisjourney of wellness and guess
what happened?
One of their children movedback home.
Their children move back home,saw this transition and then she
joined similar.
So it like I say very strongfeeling about yourself doing
(05:57):
this and then it will grow inother people if it's supposed to
.
David Delrahim (06:01):
Absolutely Well, we human, we are energy, we are
all energy, and we know thatone energy impacts the other
energy that is right next to it.
So we inspire others, all right, and through that inspiration,
if someone is ready, has thecapacity, if someone is ready,
(06:28):
has the capacity, makes thechoice to shift.
And now, instead of one, now wehave two, as a result of having
two.
Now we don't have the firstconsciousness, there is a second
consciousness, now we have acollective consciousness, so we
are creating an ecosystem.
(06:48):
Now the third one comes in mucheasier because the ecosystem
has been created, because it sothe first to the second, to the
third, the fourth would beeasier.
Roland Perez (07:03):
One of the problems that people have
getting on board is because theyhave a fear that they'll fail,
because they have no support.
Someone sees someone gettinghealthy at work.
Let's make a scenario here.
He sees someone at work all ofa sudden doesn't bring in a
(07:24):
bologna sandwich, but he bringsin some kale.
Or he's all of a sudden lookingbetter, he's lost some weight,
and he says I want to do this.
You know, I want to do this.
He gets back to his desk andsays no, this is going to fail
because my wife won't.
I mean, I can't set up aseparate refrigerator, a
(07:47):
separate time to eat.
I can't, you know, take timeaway from our relationship to go
meditate or to go to yoga.
And he says this is too much ofa change in my life for me to
do it, so I have decided I'm notgoing to do it.
But I want to, but it's othersthat can hold me back.
(08:10):
If that were your case, whatwould you do?
David Delrahim (08:16):
Well, we have a great example here at the office
.
Back in 2017, we started thehealth and wellness movement.
We invited everybody at theoffice level to participate for
about the period of about threeand a half months and I truly
(08:40):
got inspired by, you know, twopeople out of 22 people who
participated and they saw theresults and for those two people
, it became a way of life.
They continued on 13,.
Six years later, we haveanother eight people that
(09:03):
gradually got on board becausethey saw.
So they saw all of those peoplethat they got on board, they
feeling better, they look better, so they got inspired, so they
chose to get on the path ofwellness and they did, and they
saw the result and now they'rereally motivated.
(09:27):
So we have about 10 people thatinvited this consciousness of
wellness.
Granted, we have created thisecosystem at the office level
that promotes.
For example, we have snacks andI see some of them and I've
(09:51):
done a couple of times thatthose the ingredients, are not
exactly what I want it to be.
I will discard them and I willlet our office manager know not
to order those specifically.
If it is not here, they're notgoing to have it.
I'm giving them alternatives.
(10:12):
So you see, that is the supportthat we are creating.
But if you create, if we justtalk about it, which I say,
let's say is guidance, butthere's no support, it's just
not sustainable.
And that is where people findthemselves and, yes, they have
(10:34):
the fear of failing because thesupport is not there.
Support is is like a net that,if you fall, I catch you, I got
you.
And when there is no net andpeople are trying to climb up,
(10:55):
they have the fear what if Ifall down?
Nothing is holding me.
And that is where we are withthe wellness.
Roland Perez (11:05):
And it's infectious.
So what I'm gathering here isif you have the inclination for
changing your life to wellnessand getting in the wellness
space, do it.
People will follow, don't beafraid.
David Delrahim (11:38):
Is that what I'm hearing?
In any aspects of life, we asan individual could be a role
model To inspire that nextperson, to create the ecosystem
that becomes a little bit easier.
You are rolling out a provenpath.
People will have, as a result,less fear in anything, not only
(12:01):
in wellness, in attitude, inexpressing love, in expressing
kindness.
Just making world a betterplace for everyone Always starts
from one and pretty soonspreads.
Roland Perez (12:20):
We've talked about the creation of your own
wellness journey and then havingothers going into it.
But one of the things that wehave to do and I've seen this in
my own family you have todivorce some bad habits.
My question is how do youdivorce people, how do you get
(12:41):
away from those bad habits sothat you can insert your own
kind of wellness?
David Delrahim (12:47):
We go through the modern life.
Through the modern life, a lotof it we are getting programmed
by the outside and the programis already in.
I believe they are in such away that is a commerce driven
(13:09):
money driven its commerce.
The commerce platform wants tocreate customers and when they
create customers they want tocreate a membership to
(13:31):
purchasing certain items, Createthis perpetual behavior.
It works for them.
But often anybody really stopsand thinks that what I'm selling
is it really good for the humanor not?
(13:54):
It's just business, we call itjust business, but as an
individual we have to takeresponsibility for ourselves.
It's taking that responsibilityAnalyze it.
Is this thing good for me ornot?
We know the french fries mightnot be good for us, but any time
(14:22):
Tastes great.
Any time we see it we salivate.
It is the programming in ourhead that creates the salivation
and we want to satisfy thatdesire that comes from within.
(14:45):
You know, we don't even know.
I just want to put one in mymouth and I promise you I'm not
gonna do the second one becauseI know it's not gonna be good
for me.
But guess what happens?
We will finish the whole plateright.
Roland Perez (15:02):
Just one, you can't eat just one right.
David Delrahim (15:05):
So one of the things in order to have control
over our attachments to thethings that are not necessarily
good for us is to make sure thatwe don't have any exposure to
them.
Roland Perez (15:24):
So you eliminate the exposure to these items by
not either buying them or havingthem on hand, absolutely.
David Delrahim (15:31):
Just don't bring them in.
If you bring them in, then nowI'm creating a risk that I might
not have total control over mybehavior because I'm just not
there, yeah, All right.
And instead of I know thatprice is not good for me I'm
(15:52):
going to say that I'm going tolimit myself to one.
But once I have it, then I haveno control.
It's not me, it's all of thoseprograms.
It says no, let's finish it.
You know, life is too short.
Who cares?
You know what?
And once I finish it, then Iwill not feel good about myself
(16:16):
because I lost control.
So instead of going, subjectingourselves to that whole
emotional, physical turbulencesif I don't have the French fries
around me, I don't have it, Idon't think about it.
it's over, Out of sight, out ofmind yes, and overall, as we go
(16:43):
forward, by practicing this, youwill build more resistance
towards this kind of behaviorand you will build the control
and you get stronger in yourwill.
(17:04):
So at home I went through whenI got on this journey no soda.
So I'm telling my family please, no soda.
And for different reasons Ialways found soda and when they
weren't around I would throwthem into the trash.
(17:26):
And then they come and they'relooking for and I didn't have it
.
Guess what?
They didn't have it.
If it is not there, they willgo ahead and have a glass of
water right or carbonated wateror something else, but if it was
there they would have had it.
(17:48):
So I was eliminating theexposure.
I truly believe that in amatter of two weeks you can
overcome any urges.
Is it two weeks?
Is it two weeks that you'regoing to find I want that french
fries?
(18:08):
I'm going to find I want thatFrench fries.
I'm going to go ahead and makemyself some rosemary potatoes.
Roland Perez (18:16):
I'll create an alternative and I don't have
that guilty conscience because Ibaked it.
I used to smoke many years agoand I was a heavy smoker.
I was in the business of a lotof stress and stuff.
I gave that as an excuse, but Iused to smoke three packs of
(18:36):
cigarettes a day.
There's nothing that's worsethan smoking three packs of
cigarettes a day.
But I saw my grandfather die ofemphysema.
I went to the hospital to seehim and it was horrible.
People dying of emphysema, it'snot a pretty sight.
(18:59):
They're gasping for breath.
I came home and I looked in themirror and I thought of myself
breathing like that and itscared me.
But I said, how am I ever goingto quit smoking?
And I got a cold and I had ahard time breathing.
(19:25):
And I got in a mirror and I wasjust before I brushed my teeth.
I took this very long, deepbreath and it reminded me of my
grandfather.
You know, david, I have never,ever, ever had another cigarette
since that day and it was fromthe fear of something happening.
(19:49):
So it could come from aprevention and also could come
from a trauma or a fear ofhaving something happen to you,
or a heart attack.
If you're eating French fries,you stop eating French fries.
But either way, it's verypossible to do this.
It's not impossible, it can bedone.
David Delrahim (20:09):
Our body can correct itself, can fix itself
as long as it's balanced.
When our mind is balanced, wefind ourselves on an amazing,
solid path in life.
(20:30):
Amazing, solid path in life andno matter where we are on this
path, we created that path.
It is the path that we createdwith our choices.
So, as we are shifting andgoing towards a wellness path,
(20:56):
we are shifting from certainbehavior to another set of
behavior.
So wellness is a lifestyle.
We are divorcing our oldlifestyle, which wasn't wellness
, and this set of new thingsthat we are going to do
(21:20):
constitute our wellness path,which is a lifestyle, which is.
They're all new choices, stillchoices.
So we are in charge.
It's nobody else's fault, butus.
Roland Perez (21:39):
Thank you, david.
This was incredible.
You always have such aninteresting perspective on just
about everything that you thinkabout and remember.
No-transcript.
We all have good habits and some bad habits.
The good habit can transformyour life for the better, but a
bad habit can destroy your life.
Divorcing a bad habit isdifficult, but through
self-reflection, some meditationand appreciation of yourself,
there is a way.
Welcome to Better Wellness.
(00:25):
I'm your host, Roland Perez,and we're listening to a podcast
that explores the newestinnovations in true wellness.
As the executive producer ofthe American Health Journal for
more than 25 years, I'veproduced over 500 30-minute
award-winning television showsthat air nationally on PBS with
an audience of over 100 millionviewers.
(00:46):
But better wellness is morethan all that Not only keeping
your body healthy, butdeveloping a mindset and balance
that prevents illness.
Our guests are experiencedexperts in the world of staying
healthy, young and well.
And let's start.
Our first guest is DavidDelrahim, a friend and a
(01:08):
visionary, and an expert inwellness.
Hello, David, I wanted to talkto you today about involving
others in your wellness journeyand divorcing some of the bad
habits that surround you.
So many times people go intodoing something in wellness, but
(01:31):
it's usually by themselves.
They've made an individualdecision to do that.
Unfortunately, they have afamily, they have a wife, they
have a husband.
They have to involve them in it.
And the wonder is how do you dothat?
How do you get people, yourfriends, your dear friends, your
(01:56):
wife, your relatives tounderstand that you're going
through this journey and whatthey can do to help you in this
journey?
David Delrahim (02:04):
You know, I believe that we all have
purposes on planet Earth, justlike everything else.
So nothing could exist withouta purpose.
We have different purposes inlife.
We know that as human, we areall interconnected and we need
(02:30):
each other and we all carrycertain consciousness and when
we all come together, thatconsciousness is there.
But we are relying oncollective consciousness, which
is a different consciousnessthan an individual consciousness
(02:52):
.
We just have to believe andknow that the principle of
creation we're born free theprinciple of creation we're born
free Everything is subject tothe choices that we make.
(03:13):
We are inner connected.
There's a consciousness,there's a collective
consciousness and it's a journeyof life.
Roland Perez (03:22):
So what you're saying is just like when
Christianity started first youbecome a Christian, first you
have the belief yourself, andthat consciousness will grow to
your family.
It will grow to other people.
First you have to take care ofyourself as an individual, and
(03:43):
then your family will come intoit from your belief.
David Delrahim (03:49):
They do or they don't.
Sometimes they do, sometimesthey don't Depends upon where
they are along the journey oflife.
Number one it depends upontheir desire and it depends upon
their capacity.
Then they choose again choiceright Whether they want to be
(04:16):
part of it or they're not.
Or maybe they're part of it.
They're not part of it todayand as they go through the
process of evolution andincreasing their capacity, they
will be part of it at certaincapacity some other time into
the future.
But you cannot force anything.
(04:37):
It has to happen naturally.
Roland Perez (04:41):
One of my friends' wife was ill.
One of my friends' wife was illand she took on a wellness
journey to help herself in theproblems that she was having.
She would get up in the morningand she would do Pilates and
(05:08):
she would juice and she would dothings that she had never done
before in her life.
Her husband was standing therewatching her go through this and
one morning she sat down to doa drink and he walked up and
said make two.
And then three or four weekslater he joined her in Pilates
and then yoga and little bylittle he joined her to live
with her and to help her withher journey.
But when the cancer was overand the problem was stopped, it
(05:31):
didn't stop.
They were together in thisjourney of wellness and guess
what happened?
One of their children movedback home.
Their children move back home,saw this transition and then she
joined similar.
So it like I say very strongfeeling about yourself doing
(05:57):
this and then it will grow inother people if it's supposed to
.
David Delrahim (06:01):
Absolutely Well, we human, we are energy, we are
all energy, and we know thatone energy impacts the other
energy that is right next to it.
So we inspire others, all right, and through that inspiration,
if someone is ready, has thecapacity, if someone is ready,
(06:28):
has the capacity, makes thechoice to shift.
And now, instead of one, now wehave two, as a result of having
two.
Now we don't have the firstconsciousness, there is a second
consciousness, now we have acollective consciousness, so we
are creating an ecosystem.
(06:48):
Now the third one comes in mucheasier because the ecosystem
has been created, because it sothe first to the second, to the
third, the fourth would beeasier.
Roland Perez (07:03):
One of the problems that people have
getting on board is because theyhave a fear that they'll fail,
because they have no support.
Someone sees someone gettinghealthy at work.
Let's make a scenario here.
He sees someone at work all ofa sudden doesn't bring in a
(07:24):
bologna sandwich, but he bringsin some kale.
Or he's all of a sudden lookingbetter, he's lost some weight,
and he says I want to do this.
You know, I want to do this.
He gets back to his desk andsays no, this is going to fail
because my wife won't.
I mean, I can't set up aseparate refrigerator, a
(07:47):
separate time to eat.
I can't, you know, take timeaway from our relationship to go
meditate or to go to yoga.
And he says this is too much ofa change in my life for me to
do it, so I have decided I'm notgoing to do it.
But I want to, but it's othersthat can hold me back.
(08:10):
If that were your case, whatwould you do?
David Delrahim (08:16):
Well, we have a great example here at the office
.
Back in 2017, we started thehealth and wellness movement.
We invited everybody at theoffice level to participate for
about the period of about threeand a half months and I truly
(08:40):
got inspired by, you know, twopeople out of 22 people who
participated and they saw theresults and for those two people
, it became a way of life.
They continued on 13,.
Six years later, we haveanother eight people that
(09:03):
gradually got on board becausethey saw.
So they saw all of those peoplethat they got on board, they
feeling better, they look better, so they got inspired, so they
chose to get on the path ofwellness and they did, and they
saw the result and now they'rereally motivated.
(09:27):
So we have about 10 people thatinvited this consciousness of
wellness.
Granted, we have created thisecosystem at the office level
that promotes.
For example, we have snacks andI see some of them and I've
(09:51):
done a couple of times thatthose the ingredients, are not
exactly what I want it to be.
I will discard them and I willlet our office manager know not
to order those specifically.
If it is not here, they're notgoing to have it.
I'm giving them alternatives.
(10:12):
So you see, that is the supportthat we are creating.
But if you create, if we justtalk about it, which I say,
let's say is guidance, butthere's no support, it's just
not sustainable.
And that is where people findthemselves and, yes, they have
(10:34):
the fear of failing because thesupport is not there.
Support is is like a net that,if you fall, I catch you, I got
you.
And when there is no net andpeople are trying to climb up,
(10:55):
they have the fear what if Ifall down?
Nothing is holding me.
And that is where we are withthe wellness.
Roland Perez (11:05):
And it's infectious.
So what I'm gathering here isif you have the inclination for
changing your life to wellnessand getting in the wellness
space, do it.
People will follow, don't beafraid.
David Delrahim (11:38):
Is that what I'm hearing?
In any aspects of life, we asan individual could be a role
model To inspire that nextperson, to create the ecosystem
that becomes a little bit easier.
You are rolling out a provenpath.
People will have, as a result,less fear in anything, not only
(12:01):
in wellness, in attitude, inexpressing love, in expressing
kindness.
Just making world a betterplace for everyone Always starts
from one and pretty soonspreads.
Roland Perez (12:20):
We've talked about the creation of your own
wellness journey and then havingothers going into it.
But one of the things that wehave to do and I've seen this in
my own family you have todivorce some bad habits.
My question is how do youdivorce people, how do you get
(12:41):
away from those bad habits sothat you can insert your own
kind of wellness?
David Delrahim (12:47):
We go through the modern life.
Through the modern life, a lotof it we are getting programmed
by the outside and the programis already in.
I believe they are in such away that is a commerce driven
(13:09):
money driven its commerce.
The commerce platform wants tocreate customers and when they
create customers they want tocreate a membership to
(13:31):
purchasing certain items, Createthis perpetual behavior.
It works for them.
But often anybody really stopsand thinks that what I'm selling
is it really good for the humanor not?
(13:54):
It's just business, we call itjust business, but as an
individual we have to takeresponsibility for ourselves.
It's taking that responsibilityAnalyze it.
Is this thing good for me ornot?
We know the french fries mightnot be good for us, but any time
(14:22):
Tastes great.
Any time we see it we salivate.
It is the programming in ourhead that creates the salivation
and we want to satisfy thatdesire that comes from within.
(14:45):
You know, we don't even know.
I just want to put one in mymouth and I promise you I'm not
gonna do the second one becauseI know it's not gonna be good
for me.
But guess what happens?
We will finish the whole plateright.
Roland Perez (15:02):
Just one, you can't eat just one right.
David Delrahim (15:05):
So one of the things in order to have control
over our attachments to thethings that are not necessarily
good for us is to make sure thatwe don't have any exposure to
them.
Roland Perez (15:24):
So you eliminate the exposure to these items by
not either buying them or havingthem on hand, absolutely.
David Delrahim (15:31):
Just don't bring them in.
If you bring them in, then nowI'm creating a risk that I might
not have total control over mybehavior because I'm just not
there, yeah, All right.
And instead of I know thatprice is not good for me I'm
(15:52):
going to say that I'm going tolimit myself to one.
But once I have it, then I haveno control.
It's not me, it's all of thoseprograms.
It says no, let's finish it.
You know, life is too short.
Who cares?
You know what?
And once I finish it, then Iwill not feel good about myself
(16:16):
because I lost control.
So instead of going, subjectingourselves to that whole
emotional, physical turbulencesif I don't have the French fries
around me, I don't have it, Idon't think about it.
it's over, Out of sight, out ofmind yes, and overall, as we go
(16:43):
forward, by practicing this, youwill build more resistance
towards this kind of behaviorand you will build the control
and you get stronger in yourwill.
(17:04):
So at home I went through whenI got on this journey no soda.
So I'm telling my family please, no soda.
And for different reasons Ialways found soda and when they
weren't around I would throwthem into the trash.
(17:26):
And then they come and they'relooking for and I didn't have it
.
Guess what?
They didn't have it.
If it is not there, they willgo ahead and have a glass of
water right or carbonated wateror something else, but if it was
there they would have had it.
(17:48):
So I was eliminating theexposure.
I truly believe that in amatter of two weeks you can
overcome any urges.
Is it two weeks?
Is it two weeks that you'regoing to find I want that french
fries?
(18:08):
I'm going to find I want thatFrench fries.
I'm going to go ahead and makemyself some rosemary potatoes.
Roland Perez (18:16):
I'll create an alternative and I don't have
that guilty conscience because Ibaked it.
I used to smoke many years agoand I was a heavy smoker.
I was in the business of a lotof stress and stuff.
I gave that as an excuse, but Iused to smoke three packs of
(18:36):
cigarettes a day.
There's nothing that's worsethan smoking three packs of
cigarettes a day.
But I saw my grandfather die ofemphysema.
I went to the hospital to seehim and it was horrible.
People dying of emphysema, it'snot a pretty sight.
(18:59):
They're gasping for breath.
I came home and I looked in themirror and I thought of myself
breathing like that and itscared me.
But I said, how am I ever goingto quit smoking?
And I got a cold and I had ahard time breathing.
(19:25):
And I got in a mirror and I wasjust before I brushed my teeth.
I took this very long, deepbreath and it reminded me of my
grandfather.
You know, david, I have never,ever, ever had another cigarette
since that day and it was fromthe fear of something happening.
(19:49):
So it could come from aprevention and also could come
from a trauma or a fear ofhaving something happen to you,
or a heart attack.
If you're eating French fries,you stop eating French fries.
But either way, it's verypossible to do this.
It's not impossible, it can bedone.
David Delrahim (20:09):
Our body can correct itself, can fix itself
as long as it's balanced.
When our mind is balanced, wefind ourselves on an amazing,
solid path in life.
(20:30):
Amazing, solid path in life andno matter where we are on this
path, we created that path.
It is the path that we createdwith our choices.
So, as we are shifting andgoing towards a wellness path,
(20:56):
we are shifting from certainbehavior to another set of
behavior.
So wellness is a lifestyle.
We are divorcing our oldlifestyle, which wasn't wellness
, and this set of new thingsthat we are going to do
(21:20):
constitute our wellness path,which is a lifestyle, which is.
They're all new choices, stillchoices.
So we are in charge.
It's nobody else's fault, butus.
Roland Perez (21:39):
Thank you, david.
This was incredible.
You always have such aninteresting perspective on just
about everything that you thinkabout and remember.
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