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July 31, 2025 36 mins

Join Joe Pisapia, Andrew Erickson, and Terrell Furman Jr. as they preview the AFC East from a betting perspective!

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Intro - 0:00:00

Coaching and Personnel Changes - 0:01:18

Buffalo Bills - 0:01:21

New England Patriots - 0:04:16

New York Jets - 0:07:53

Miami Dolphins - 0:11:29

Novig App - 0:14:35

Win Totals Breakdown - 0:15:22

BettingPros App - 0:27:29

Division Winner Futures - 0:28:17

Best Bets and Wild Cards - 0:31:10

Outro - 0:35:30

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place
your bets. It is me Joey p Joe Pi Zapia,
and this is BP NFL. We're continuing our series year,
one division at a time until we reach that pinnacle
and cash every single bet, or at least most of them.
And to help me do it this time, of course,
it's my two best friends, Roll Furman Junior and Andrew Ericson,

(00:21):
the Undertaker himself. And this week it's about the AFC East.
That's right, Finally a little bit of a movement here
in the AFC East because the Jets have a new
coach and a new quarterback and the whole new outlook.
The new England Patriots have a second year quarterback and
a new coach who's kind of old to the team,
So lots of optimism here brewing for at least those squads.

(00:45):
And of course the Buffalo Bills they're pretty good at
football last time I checked, too. And the Dolphins are
also here. They're just marked as present currently, especially with
that offensive line and potentially that defense too. But we're
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Pros YouTube channel. All right, gentlemen, let's kick things off
here with a recap of We'll start with the Buffalo Bills,
the team at the top that's been at the top
for a while. A couple of new wide receivers Elijah
Moore and Joshua Palmer, cornerback Maxwell Harriston. Those are the

(01:30):
additions I would say the big ones year over year.
Terrelle Furman Junior. There's been a lot of buzz about
josh Palmer, and you know, as a fantasy nerd myself
and somebody who's been in that weeds for about twenty
five years now, you know we've seen this before as like, oh,
there's a player who we pick up some times and
then he gets hurt and he doesn't really produce the
way we want him to. And then he goes to

(01:50):
a new team and all of a sudden, it's this
new excitement. Do you think we should be excited about
Josh Palmer or is this Keon Coleman year two breakout
really what we should be looking for?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh Man, I mean, I'm excited about Josh Palmer. I
think Josh Palmer is a good veteran receiver that has
proved when you put him in a solidified role, he
can step up big for you and Eddrew Erickson. I
mean last year I had a wide receiver call if
you would remember, and if you remember the ADP of
said wide receiver, he has the same ADP as Josh

(02:25):
Palmer here. So I think that it's going to be
a very very good season for Josh Palmer. I actually
really do like that pickup for this Bills sayman, I
don't know. I'm here with a couple of Pats fans
and it's looking like a lot of Rensen repeat in
this division.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
It is. I do think it's still the Bill's division
to lose. But more on that later. Doesn't mean that
necessarily that's how we should approach wagering in this division necessarily,
But we're all about value here Andrew ericson anything you
want to add here to the off season the Buffalo Bills,
it seems kind of static to me. A little bit
more wide receiver depth here, but no clear alphas as
far as I'm concerned. It's not like they added somebody

(03:04):
to replace what Stefon Diggs used to bring to this team.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
No, because we kind of saw with the Joe Brady
offense that he's really gone away from using a quote
unquote number one bona fide wide receiver, even with Digs.
In twenty twenty three, when Joe Brady took over, they
totally phased Digs out of the offense, and we were wondering,
is Digs healthy?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Why aren't they get the ball to Digs? Because Brady
operates a system where quote unquote everybody eats, and apparently
they're giving out T shirts at Bill's Craning camp where
it says everybody eats. So that's a not exactly what
we want for fantasy football purposes, but you know, guys
can step up. We'll see there's a lot of breakout
candidates on this offense, whether it's Palm or it's Ken Coleman.
I think that even a guy like Elijah Moore, He's

(03:44):
playing with the best quarterback of his career, so maybe
he can mix a noise as well. But a very
deep wide receiver room, I think the thing I will
say the roster turnover is not that large with Buffalo,
so it is mostly status quo. They do have some
question marks on the defensive line. They signed two guys
in free agency who will both be suspended for the
first six games of the season. They had Joey Bosa,
who maybe he's healthy, maybe he's not. We don't know

(04:06):
exactly sure how many games are gonna get out of him.
But they did add some depth on the defensive tackle
side in the NFL draft, so more or less same
thing with Buffalo going on.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
All right, Robert Kraft opened up his check book this offseason.
He paid Mike were Able to come in as the
head coach. That's probably the biggest move there. But they
also brought in veteran Stefan Diggs, who was way ahead
of schedule already working out. Looks pretty sharp to me,
so I'm shocked, to be honest with you, how far
along he is. They drafted Will Campbell there for that
tackle position with their top three overall pick, and then

(04:37):
they also drafted Kyle Williams, a wide receiver who creates
quite a bit of separation. They also went crazy on defense,
which is something they needed to do. The defense just
was not good enough. Carlton Davis from the Lion shows up,
Roberts Bulane from the Raiders, Milton Williams from the Eagles ericson.
This is a whole new ballgame here for the New
England Patriots. This roster is so much better year over year.

(04:58):
The question is how quickly can I come together? Because
you're bringing in Josh McDaniels again too, so he is
not new to the Patriots, but he's new to a
lot of these guys here on the offensive side.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I just think that everything is so much improved from
last year that it doesn't matter that it's new, because
it's better. Everything is better. The personnel is better, the
coaching is better. They have adults in the room that
know what is going on. And when you bring in
someone like Mike Rabel, who what did he get with
the Tennessee Titans. He got everything out of that team
that was possible to get with the talent level that

(05:29):
they had. I don't think anyone looked at those Titans
rosters and thought, man, this team top to bottom AFC
contender every single year. No more like an average team
with average personnel that Mike Grabel got the most out of.
So even though this Patriot's roster is significantly better than
was last year, you can still have some question marks
about Okay, great offensive line is better, still probably gonna

(05:51):
be a bottom five unit unless things really start to gel.
So I do think that they greatly benefit from the
easiest schedule in the NFL, which last year that was
not the case. You know, drowd Mayo was not set
up for success because number one, he'd craft didn't let
him sigle a lot of the guys, and number two
he also had the toughest schedule in the NFL. So
the path is so much easier for the Patriots this year,

(06:12):
but unfortunately it hasn't gone unnoticed by the sports books.
And you just look at the win totals for the Patriots,
it's baked in. So it's a matter of figuring out, Okay,
we all agree that they're going to improve, but isn't
enough to then factor in what the win totals are?
And as we'll get into.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
And we will get into those win totals. Terrell Furman Jr. Look,
there's a lot of new here. We just talked about it,
but it's also a lot better, which I think is
the point Andrew's making, and I tend to agree with him.
There was nowhere to go but up after last year.
But this is a significant upgrade. And if you believe
in Drake May and I do. I liked him in
college and I like what I saw out of him
in an almost untenable situation last year. I feel like

(06:50):
with that schedule, with his leadership, now that they can
approach double digit wins, I don't think that's out of
the question.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I don't know if I'm there yet, but I don't.
As much as I do love the Mike Vrabral move.
I wanted Mike Rabel as a coach. I thought Mike
Rabel is a great coach. I didn't think that Tennessee
need to move on from him. I think he was
figuring out and I love betting Mike Vrabel. I do.
I can see myself betting this team a lot this year,
But is it gonna lead out right wins? I'm not
one hundred percent certain. I'm really concerned about the offensive line.

(07:20):
If that offensive line doesn't come ready to play, then
I mean as a team that as a fan of
a team that has had horrible offensive line play for
the better part of a decade. No matter how good
you could feel about your quarterback, we're about anything else
that you have going on. That offensive line is going
to destroy it and you're gonna feel really really bad
about it, and he's not gonna be able to get

(07:40):
the most out of them if they're not ready. So
I think it's upfront for me. That offensive line has
to be there ready to play. I like the defense
of like the pieces of like everything, but that offensive
line isn't able to stay upright for Drake May, then
it may not be as good as it feels.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
All right, let's move on to the New York Jets.
You're a team. Where as if you're watching that of
our fantasy firs con and I told you Justin Fields
will be the quarterback in New York Jets. And guess what.
Justin Field is the quarterback in the New York Jets.
So it was one hundred percent on that one from
day one minute one. I love Aaron Glenn too. I
think he's the right guy. He's got a history of
that organization. They lack a combination of discipline and charisma,

(08:16):
and I feel like Aaron Glenn brings both of those things.
He understands the New York media market. I think Robert
Sola was actually a pretty good football coach. He just
could not get out from under some of the decisions
made around him, I think at times, and they ultimately
led to his demise. And now you've got a fresh
start here. You've got Garrett Wilson reunited with his head coach.
You've got a situation too where I think the New

(08:38):
York Jets looking at Membu in the offensive tackle spot,
a really good draft pick Mason Taylor a tight end.
But I think this is going to be a simplified
offense is going to be pretty efficient. They're going to
run the hell out of the football on trell I'm
on board for that because I think if you're the Jets,
the identity has to be run the football, control the football,
don't turn the football over, play defense and scratch out some.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
W's, especially because they feel really good about the interior
of the offensive line there with the guard spots in
the center position. It's just the tackles that they're like,
all right, let's see if that's going to be okay.
But I think that that's aged the run game interior
the offensive line. Being able to run between those guards
is going to aid the run game. I think that
justin fields and his mobility, he'll be able to get away.

(09:20):
And I think that if pressure comes, he's his ability
to be able to extend plays here that's really really
going to help out, especially when you have a target
like Garrett Wilson that I have been I mean incredibly
higher on every single year, and even though the forces
of the Jets just refuse to give me that huge, big,
big Garrett Wilson breakout year every year because the Jets

(09:40):
are just, oh the Jets. I feel like this is
the year. I feel like this is the year. J
E t as Jets, Jets, Jets. I'm all in on
Aaron Glenn with this team. I like the defense, and
hopefully Garrett Wilson has that year for me.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
All right, ericson your thoughts here on New York Jets
offseason here. I know it's going to take a little
bit of time to get all these pieces together, but Sir,
a lot to prove here, and Aaron Glenn, I think
is just a really sharp football guy. Coming from that
environment with the Lions to where he's been the defensive
coordinator for a couple of years, I think he's bringing
the right kind of leadership that the Jets have really lacked.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I'm glad you brought up the connections to the Detroit
Lions because I think that's a good thing to point
out where we think back to when Dan Campbell started
out in Detroit. They didn't start out of the gates
very hot. They were a team that was losing a
lot of games even they were playing close to some
of these other actional teams. So I think it's going
to be more of a slow burn with Aaron Glenn,
with Tanner extra and also coming as the OC from Detroit.

(10:35):
You look at the Jets, they have almost a brand
new roster compared to last season in terms of the
highest turnover eate and their roster compared to what the
Jets looked at in twenty twenty four. So there's a
lot of moving pieces in this offense and defense. So
I think that it's probably gonna be a slower start
I don't think that this is the year where the
Jets all kind of come together, which is for That's

(10:58):
why I'm kind of tempering expectation from a win loss perspective.
If we just look at the opening schedule for New
York again, they have that big matchup against Pittsburgh Steelers
Aaron Rodgers just in filter venge game, etc.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Etc.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
But then after that it's Buffalo and then they're playing
at Tampa Bay. So I think it's a scenario where
the Jets start zero to three and you're really looking out, Okay,
what are we gonna look like in twenty twenty six,
rather than Okay, how much of an impact can we
make in twenty twenty five. So that's kind of my
read on the New York Jets.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I like it. Eank Sure is going to be interesting
too running that offense. We'll see what he brings. Their
notable additions for the Miami Dolphins while they have a
backup quarterback in Zach Wilson, which actually I think is
kind of interesting. I kind of like this in this
fast paced offense. I think maybe Zach Wilson thinking might
be the worst possible thing for Zach Wilson to do.
On a field safety's Melifuanu. Ashton Davis brought in, Alexander

(11:47):
Madison brought in for depth again kind of a I
feel like a lackluster offseason. I didn't quite understand their
draft Andrew Erickson, So I don't know, if you're grading
the Miami Dolphins offseason, what would you give it?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
C minus? Not really impressed by it overall. Interesting moves.
I know they had to get an offensive lineman, but
do they have to move up to get him when
they have other needs across the roster. I think the
secondary is very suspect. When you're starting Jack Jones and
Storm Duck as your perimeter cornerbacks because he treated Jalen Ramsey,
then yeah, you're gonna come under some scrutiny entering the season. Now,

(12:22):
maybe those guys can play better than what they profile
as from what they've done historically, but I think this
defense has a lot of question marks. We know the
team is super fragile on the health of two tongue
of Iola. If he's healthy, then okay, they can win
some games, but we've also seen the negative side where
if he misses games, they lose. When they play teams
that have winning records. The Miami Dolphins lose when they

(12:43):
play in December. Outside, the Miami Dolphins lose games. So
there's a lot of scenarios where you can see things
quickly bottoming out for the Miami Dolphins. And I think
it starts in Week one when they play the Indianapolis Colts,
another team that also has a head coach on the
hot seat. The loser of that game is going to
be sitting on a very very high see when they
do that post game presser.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, I look, I think that we talked about this
one of us together. I think it's Week twelve where
Mike McDaniel has the bye week but right before and
it's just this brutal schedule of like just big time
contending teams. I think that's the swan song here for
Mike McDaniel Turill, I really do.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah. I the the dumpster fire that is going on
in the organization. I think I think this is this
is gonna be it. The accusations that were out of
the Dolphins tanking games and Brian floresay, no, I'm not
with that. I think Mike McDaniel's gonna be cool with it.
I think that they might just bottom out here, Like
I don't really like either side of the ball. I

(13:44):
think that the offensive line is is wonky and they
got to figure that out. And if Tula gets hurt
like Tula, We've been talking about Tula's injury problems since
Alabama and the fact that it's a year after year
after year thing like that is a part of him.
You have to consider that you might not have have
him playing games, and you can be kind of in
on Zach Wilson. I'm not gonna be in on Zach Wilson,

(14:06):
especially with Mike Laflord as well. We already seen that before.
It didn't work out, then, don't think it's gonna work
out now. I don't like anything the Dolphins have right now.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Here's that stretch I was talking about Week eight at Atlanta,
then at home against Baltimore, at home against Buffalo, and
then at home against Washington. And now, look, there's a
good chance you win. You lose three straight home games.
They're going into the buy that's it. That's the death now,
and I just think I just I'd be shocked. Maybe
they can sneak out one of them, maybe, but I
think it's highly unlikely. Let's look at the win totals

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here we go, win totals from the Buffalo Bills. I'll
start the bidding at nine and a half to eleven
and a half, your twelve firm and junior. Where do
you want to go?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Uh? I guess we go up? I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You don't have to. No one's forcing your hand. You
want to go to twelve and a half. Here's a thing.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
There's nobody in the division is stopping that. What are
you guys doing? Can you guys pleast make it competitive
for me?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Hold on a second?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
What's interesting is on a FanDuel specifically, they have eleven
and a half, but they don't have twelve and a half.
They jump right to the thirteen and a half. Right.
They're doing the odd numbers there because I think twelve
and a half is actually like the smart bets, so
you can get the twelve and a half and other
books to do that one. But I mean, if you
want to go to over thirteen and a half wins,
that's plus two hundred to row. Are you ready for that?

Speaker 4 (16:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm not either.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think the eleven and a half twelve and a
half does kind of feel like a little sweet spot there.
I do think the Bills are going to be a
good team, and I think it's going to be really
really easy in this division where they just kind of
handle business and it's some extra wins on the total there,
and so yeah, I'm on the Bills. I may not
be as enthusiastic about everybody else about the Bills, but

(16:32):
I still think that they should be good. Like there's
nothing telling me that they're going to be They're not
going to be any worse than what they are last year,
Like they're a good scene.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, I agree, eleven and a half minus one sixty
five erics and that's where I want to live.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
How about you co sign clean sweep over eleven and
a half wins? Again, they ain't broke, don't fix it right,
they have it easy schedule. It's a division with I
mean the Jets and Dolphins, frank that I don't think
are going to be very good. And I like the Patriots,
but are they going to be able to go toe
for toe with Buffalo? Still need to see it.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I think it's a.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Toe two toe, not toe four toe, because that sounds ominous,
Like I don't want to be chopping off toes here midseason.
That just sounds like a hole.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Hey we could God, so I could chop my, you
could shop yours? Like what's up?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
He has healthy toes. As long as Justin Fields has
healthy toes, then that's fine.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Toll.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Does you have some first person to pass out loses?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Worst party game ever? All right, let's talk about the
New England Patriots. Seven and a half, eight and a half,
nine and a half. That's what the bidding is, gentlemen,
I'll tell you what I'm feeling frisky plus one ninety
over nine and a half wins. I'm telling you I'm
looking at that schedule. Boys. I think good coaching, good
quarterback play, and a pretty favorable schedule. I think they
can scratch out ten wins. I don't know if that

(17:43):
gets them in the playoffs in the AFC. That's the
one thing that I'm not exactly short because I think
the West is very good and I think the North
is obviously very good as well, so that is where
I struggle. But I do think they can get to
ten wins. Andrew Erickson, put your rooting interest aside. Let's
talk bites. Where are you at with the Patriots win total?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Well, I'm gonna cheering for them every single week basically,
no matter what. So I'm also taking the over here
on the double digit. I think they get to double
digit wins too. You look at Mike Frable historically, what
he's done six season with the Tennessee tight ends his
team's average nine wins per year for those teams won
nine or more games. So given the fact that they
have the easiest schedule in the NFL, and it starts

(18:23):
out with very easy beatable matchup, so I think this
team can actually build some momentum early in the season
and then as they kind of find their identity, they're
still winning games along the way. So I like the
Patriots a lot. And you know, don't forget about that.
I know again, going toe four tow or tot tot
to toe.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Stop going toe tote.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
It's disgusting going toe to toe with the Buffalo Bills.
Last year recalled the Patriots went to Buffalo. They were
up fourteen nothing against Buffalo in Week sixteen. They outgained
the Buffalo Bills in terms of total yardage, but because
they were poorly coached, they lost the turnover battle and
that's why they end up losing the game. So with
better coaching, I think that they maybe can give Buffalo

(19:01):
run for their money a little bit. I think that
both teams are gonna win a lot of games, So yeah,
I'm taking the over as well.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Look, the season opens with Vegas, Miami, Pittsburgh, Carolina, Terrell,
that's pretty good. It closes with Buffalo Baltimore Jets in Miami.
That is a little bit tougher potentially there, but they
do have that buy and we fourteen. They're another one's
late by teams, which is interesting because the Miami Dolphins
have the same bye week as them in that same division. So, uh, Terrell,

(19:27):
go ahead, throw some cold water on the optimism of
Andrew myself for this win total.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I mean, you see everything that looks good, and you
have to remember that there are parts that just aren't
that good with the team yet. And so with this,
I'm really looking at the big spender in free agency
this year. They're the big spender in free agency. Did
you both know that since twenty twenty one, every single
big spender in free agency has made a three win

(19:54):
increase except the tweeny twenty two Jacksonville Jaguars, who made
a six win increase, But other than that, it's been
three win increase every single time. So a three win
increase for the Patriots puts them at seven wins, which
is under the total, which is what I think they are.
I think they're a better team. I think that I'm
gonna love betting them. They're gonna be good ats for me.
They're probably not gonna win as a money like dog

(20:15):
all the times, but I'm gonna enjoy those few times
that they do win as a money line dog. I
think it's gonna be a successful season when you look
at it at the end, it's just not gonna be
nine wins, ten wins, all of that. So yeah, I'm
on the under eight and a half minus one thirty.
I'll lay it a little bit of juice. But I
do think they're a good team, So it's gonna be
seven eight wins, and I might play a little bit

(20:36):
on seven wins, Zach, just because the three wins trend
has been pretty.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Goodman, curse your your logic. That that was fantastic logic
and I hate it because it's process.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Wait till I get my chance to tell this to
Matt Parral. He's gonna shut down. He's gonna be so bad.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
This is the worst, the three of us, all Patriot
fans here. But look again, I I'm the guy that
was crushing them last year. Like I always keep it
real with the Patriots. It's one of the things that
annoyed a lot of my friends in the industry is like,
you know, you're not one of those Patriot fans that
sees the world through the red, white and blue glasses. Like, no,
I don't, because I know when they're going south. And
I was watching that decline there at the end of
Belichick and I'm saying, look, this is not gonna work.

(21:16):
Cam Newton's not the solution. None these guys the solution.
I'm curious though, when you go look back in the
data on those teams, if they had a young quarterback
of the caliber of Drake May, he's the X factor.
If he plays well, I think they can go over it.
If he doesn't, then I'm with Terrell. All right, let's
talk about the New York Jets here. Look, I know
we're looking at win increases here. I think they can

(21:37):
get over five and a half wins. I think I'm
very comfortable with this at minus one twenty trol. How
about you?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, I five and a half wins. I think that
the Jets. I think the Jets personally, because again, you
guys are higher on the Patriots but if I'm not
high on the Patriots, I have to be higher on
somebody else in the division. It's the Jets. For me,
I think the Jets have a chance to be second
in the division here, Like, I really really think that
Aaron Glenn with all the pieces that he has on

(22:04):
that defense to play with and toilet, Like we forget
just a couple of years ago, the Jets defense was
really really good. Last year, it was the whole dumpster
fire of everything going on and defense went off the rails.
But if he just takes those pieces, he implements his
scheme and he gets them buying in and they lock in.
Is a really really good defense again that can run
the football, control the football, not turn the ball to

(22:27):
not turn the ball over to too much. It looks
a lot similar to what Justin Phils had last season
with Pittsburgh when he started out and he was on
a hot start. Like, I think that they're gonna be
a really really solid team that can be also there
right there with the Patriots and that seven to eight
maybe even more win totals. So yes, slam over five
and a half wins.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
I agree Terrell and I are at five and a
half on the over minus one twenty and Drew Orgson,
would you like to join us at that lunch table. No,
I would not.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'm taking the under a plus money under five and
a half plus one hundred. Going back to my point,
I don't think this is this offense and this team
is looking at twenty twenty five as hey, we have
to win a bunch of games this year. I think
it's about let's establish the culture. It's a brand new roster.
They have the most roster turnover any team in the
NFL compared to last year. So it's all new pieces.
And I think that the opening schedule is kind of tough.

(23:18):
You gotta play Buffalo in week two, you gotta play
the Steelers in week one, you gotta play at Tampa
Bay in week three. And Fields we know he has
his problems as a passer, as a processor, how does
he gel with all the new offensive pieces that he's
working with. So I just think it's more of a
slow burn with this team. I just don't expect them
to win a lot of games this year.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
All right, let's talk about the Miami Dolphins, and this
is my favorite one of all of them, because I
want to bet the under six and a half wins
of plus one fifty. I'm looking at that week fourteen,
or excuse me, week twelve, by I said there was
Week fourteen. I was wrong. I'm sorry. They don't have
the same by week as the Patriots. They have Week
twelve by two weeks before. But they get the New
Orleans Saints right after. Oh my god, I can't wait

(23:55):
to bet the Dolphins to beat the Saints after firing
their coach. It's going to be so great telling you
right now, that's exactly what I'm gonna be doing. The
mortgage payment, all of it's going there. But after that,
they finish up against the Jets, the Steelers, the Bengals,
the Tampa Buccaneers, and then they end with New England.
Oh god, look, I don't think things are going to
go well here for this team. I really don't. I
just think the lack of discipline is showing. The off

(24:18):
season was disappointing, and everybody else in this division got
better except them. To me, that's the problem. I link
ighthans of spectacular talent. You have a quarterback here with
concussion issues. If you miss a significant time, you're turning
the keys over to Zach Wilson. Oh, that looks like
Andrew Erickson. But to me, it looks like six wins
or less. And I will take that bad boy again.
Plus money, Yes, please, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I'm taking the plus money bets under six and a half.
I honestly think you can bet on them totally bottoming out.
So under four and a half at what is it?
Plus five hundred I'm seeing here? I think that's in
play because when things go bad, I don't think they're
going to get any better. Why would they they start again?
Trell mentioned this earlier where this is a team that's
embraced the idea of tanking, right, so if they are

(25:01):
starting to lose a bunch of if they lose Week
one against the Colts and Daniel Jones, I mean, come on,
this is gonna be this is gonna be a disaster
for Miami. And I actually have a question for you
two guys, who leaves Miami. Who's out of Miami first?
Kyrie Hill or Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Ooh, Mike McDaniel. Actually know what? No, Tyreek kill? Because
the trade deadline is earlier, right, they could be gone
the same week, all right? When's the trade deadline? Is
it we twelve?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
It's a package deal?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Is twelve this year? I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I have Look, but do you think Mike McDaniel is
a man of integrity?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I think he is a I think he's a pretty
decent guy. But he's a good one.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's the question. That's your question, and that's how you
answer it. If you think Mike McDaniel is a man
of integrity, then all right, Mike McDaniel's gone first because
because the owners go to fire rope. But if you
think he's not a man of integrity, oh, it's Tyreek Hill,
you're outscoring me.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
It's a good perspective. Terrell. Any thoughts here on the
win total for the Dolphins? Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, under under under under what?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Under?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
How far?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I mean, I'm I'm over here.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Digging.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I'm looking at fewest wins.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
We're under four and a half is plus five hundred
if you want to go there. But that's really brutal.
I don't think that happens.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
No, But if SUA, if SUA gets hurt, what if
they so just imagine it's like, this is the worst
possible scenario. If they have a bad season, SUA gets
hurt and they start having a worse season because Tua
is now out for the rest of the year, Like
that is something that could really really put them in
the three win department. Like, so I'm with it. You

(26:35):
want to go all unders on on them, And plus
I think the other teams in division are better, Like
I think the Pats are better. I think that the
Jets are better. We know that the Bills are better. Like,
somebody's got to be bad.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
So yeah, man, I think two with the under on
the four and a half. It's really about the early
season because that's when they have their layoup games. So
they have the open against we talked about already. They
open against the Colts, it's the Patriots that they play
at home, Jets, Panthers, Browns, and Falcons. Like, that's the
really easy part. So if they're going to get around
that four and a half wins, that's where it's going

(27:07):
to be. But if for some reason they just don't
look good, they're not yelling, there's issues again that week
one loss turns into a week two loss, they start
zero to two, you could just see things get off
the rails, which is why I think it's worth it
to throw a couple bucks on the under four and
a half because once things get off the rails, they're
not getting back on until they play the Saints.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Of course. All right, let's take a look at the
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Let's get to the division winner here the Buffalo Bills
minus two ninety, the New England Patriots plus five fifty,
the Dolphins plus seven to fifty, and the Jets at
plus twenty one hundred. I think it's hilarious that the
Dolphins have a better one than the Jets. Personally, I
think that's just wrong. So if you want to the

(28:31):
only way to approach this, because there's no value on
the Bills is to bet the order, at which case
I would bet Bills, Patriots, Jets, Dolphins as the order.
If you can get that right on some site as
a special I think that's the way to do it. Otherwise,
hard fade for me here minus two ninety too much
Juice ericson Terrell? Anything to add here?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Boys, what's the payout on that? That exact order?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Joe, the exact I'd have to look, you know. It
just popped in my head right now where I was like,
there's no you can dance and sing though. If I
try to look at it and see if I can find.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
It, well, I will talk about that. I like the
Patriots at plus five fifty. I think that's good value. Again,
going diving into the trying to find that team that
goes from worse to first in the division. You know,
the Patriots are one of those teams after finishing in
last place in the AFC last year so or in
the ANFC East last year. So I think that it's
good value with that. Again, it's tough to knock down

(29:22):
the Bills, but if any team could do it, I
think that would be the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
In this division, therell's six to one, six to one
on Bills pass Jets Dolphins six to one.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I was gonna say it was probably somewhere on five
and six is even better.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I think that's actually pretty good. Drell. What do you
think that's really good? Let's go. I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I actually thought it was gonna be better. Not gonna lie.
I thought you were gonna get a better price, a
little it. But if you guys like it, I love it.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, I mean guys like it. I love it, Like
you know, let's move on to all other things you
love that. I don't want to waste too much time
here on this one.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, I mean well, out of principle, I'm gonna throw
something on the Jets out of principle, it's not. I
don't think it's gonna happen. But if there was a
situation where, I mean the unthinkable happened in Buffalo, I'm
not even gonna say it, but it's say.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
This division, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
See looks, I don't.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Care nobody's betting. Pros would leave when I'm on the MinC.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Nobody's safe maybe, and people are gonna blame me for
this watch they should, But I'm gonna tell you what's
even more interesting for me. Jets second in division plus
four forty, all right, don't I don't care what everybody
else does. Play around however. You want, just be better
than the Patriots, that's all I ask. Just be better

(30:42):
than the Patriots. I'll take a stab at it. Plus
far forty. That's like, come on, I would think that
the Jets and the Patriots are more like closer to
even money both ways for both of them to be
second in division. You're telling me that the Pats are
just clear cut second best team here. I don't know.
Let me take plus pover forty on the Jets.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
That's fine, that's fine. I mean, remember you're betting on
the Jets. Just remember that.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Aaron Glenn, I'm betting on Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, it's still the Jets.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Let's do it. Still the Jets.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
All right, let's get to our favorite bets for this division.
Will wrap this up here. For me, it's Drake May
total passing yards over thirty two seventy five and a half. Yes,
please at minus one fourteen. My other favorite bet, I
just took the one Terrell when I were just talking
out and I'm gonna use that now. Bills, Pats, Jets,
Dolphins in that order of the finish plus six hundred. Yeah,

(31:30):
let's go. I mean, look, I think the Jets are
going to be better, But do I think they're going
to win this division or all of a sudden become
the number two? I don't. I just think there's too
much new there, completely, even more than the Patriots in
some ways, because at least the infrastructure between Vraibol and
McDaniels is there. So I think that's a little bit
of a different situation than FanDuel's special here around the Horns.

(31:51):
This is a fun one.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
You like this.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
The Bills, Texans, and Rams to each win their division
plus seven hundred. You see that, because they've all got horns.
So I'm a little horny for this bet. That's what
I am. Andrew Erickson, let's take a look at your
favorite bets here for the AFCAS. What do you have?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
All right?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
So going the over on the Patriots win total seven
and a half, and then you can always tease it
up if you want more action on it. So I
like the over under on the Miami Dolphins. Bought me out,
So I think under six and a half, under four
and a half, laddering the unders on the Dolphins dumpster fire,
and then you gotta have fun.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
You gotta have fun on these shows. Wild Card play.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Jalen Wattle, my guy, Oh, he is the NFL in
receiving yards at plus eight thousand and eighty to one,
And I looked, I looked at my receipts because I
bet this same thing. I think it was either last
year two years ago and it was thirty seven to one,
and I liked it then. So of course at eighty
to one, I'm gonna love this bet because what if

(32:46):
Tyreek Hill has gone from this offense. We've seen Tua
leave the NFL in passing yards, We've seen him target
a number one wide receiver. He has all the chemistry
in the world with Jalen Wattle, and you talk about
all the bad vibes with Tyreek Kill, you know, the
rebuilding relationship, whereas Wattle, they're praising constantly every single day.
This guy's stepping up, this guy's a leader in this offense.

(33:07):
To me, it seems so obvious that Wattle's going to
step up and be the guy in this offense that
too relies on and it's not going to be Tyreek Hill,
whether he's on the team or he gets traded. So
I think that Wattle, this price is just way too
long for a player that is thirteenth in receiving yards
per game over the last three seasons, and we look

(33:28):
at the number of yards he's averaged in the three
games that Tyreek Kill has played less than fifty percent
of the snaps eighty five receiving yards per game per
Jalen Wattle, so twenty six years old.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
This is just way too long.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's my favorite long shot.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Somebody's drinking that pink kool aid, baby, that's what's happening
right now. All right, let's see Terrell Furman Junior's favorite
bets for the AFC is what do you got.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
To all right, let's do it. I'm gonna start with
my guy, if you know me, I'm talking about him,
Garrett Wilson. They comically have Garrett Wilson's receiving yards prop
at nine to fifty and a half. I would just
let want to let everybody know that Garrett Wilson has
had a thousand yard receiving season and every single season
he's played from twenty twenty two on in the NFL.

(34:12):
I would also like to let people know that the
quarterbacks that he played within that span, Zach Wilson, Joe Flacco,
Mike White, Chris Streveler, Tim Boyle, Aaron Rodgers, Trevor Simeon,
Tyrod Taylor, Adrian Martinez, Jordan Travis Steven. So yes, I
am taking Garrett Wilson to go over his nine to

(34:34):
fifty and a half receiving yards with that another player
from the Jets, because I do love the Jets this
season justin fields over five and a half rushing touchdowns,
Oh like that one. Absolutely absolutely give me a full
season justin fields, and he's going to find the end zone.
I think that Aaron Glenn is gonna let him be him,
and that's why the offense is going to thrive. So

(34:54):
love the Justin fields rushing touchdowns. I also played the
Pats exactly seven wins and exactly eight wins. So exactly
seven wins is five to one, exactly seven eight wins
is four to one. But and that was a lot
better than just putting that one unit I was placing
on the pass under win total and just saying what

(35:17):
I said, I don't think they're gonna be bet They're
just not gonna hit the win total. So I'm gonna
say the I really think it's seven. But you know,
I hate when I play it and I get the
one extra win. I'm like, oh I just lost, so
I got the eight.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
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(35:49):
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