July 2025 MLB Futures Forecast | Updated Bets & Predictions (Ep. 723) - BettingPros Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, and welcome back to the Betting Pros podcast.
Believe it or not, but it's already the week of
the fourth of July. So que the Toby Keith, throw
those hot dogs on the grill and get some baseball
on the tube. And yes, we're back before the holiday
to revisit the MLB futures betting markets. I'm your host,
Seth Wilcock, and I'm joined by quite the cast of

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characters today, including a man who believes red, white and blue.
He's the host of Leading Off. He's Chris Welsh. Pal,
how you doing? Are you looking forward to the holiday weekend?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We're doing SOT. I got birthdays. I got a daughter
and a wife that both share the same birthday on
July fifth, so we do fourth of July. For me
is not just about America, but it's about family literally
because my daughter has taken over that day. But I'm
looking forward to it, and I'm looking forward to baseball
being center stage for a little bit because that is

(00:51):
what you all got and you're all gonna deal with
it whether you like it or not. It's that in me.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
We also have back with a man who I believe
already celebrated his into Penance day up North Canadian Joe Rico, Joe,
did I get that right? Canaday already in the bag
for you?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
By the time people are hearing this, it likely will be,
but it's actually at the time recording it is the
first of July. Is Canadaday today, So oh Canada Day.
To all the Canadians who are listening. It's odd being
a Canadian who works for American companies because I'm working today,
but I'll get the long weekend like you guys will,
so it's hard to really complain all that much.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
There you go, hard working Canadian Joe Rico. We appreciate
you being back with us today on the program. It
looks like this will revisit the following betting markets MVP
CY Young season win totals and to make the playoffs,
some division winners, World Series winners, and our favorite long
shot futures as well, and we'll also be discussing the
looming MLB trade deadline how it could affect these markets

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coming up. Before we get going. First, one to shout
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jumping on right now, and maybe even your favorite hot

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dog condiments. I'm usually like a cheese dog with ketchup
and onion kind of guy, but I also kind of
roll with the sour kraw action a little bit here
and there. What about you.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Welsh hardcore pass on the sour craws.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
So you know, nothing is more American to me than chips.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's all. It's chips. Give me Doritos, give me ruffles,
just like let me consume the chips. Please on your
hot dog? Oh on hot dog? I thought were just
talking about you know what. Also, yes, I thought you
said food in general on a hot dog. Very anti Chicago.
It's all catch up. But you know what, I might

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throw a couple chips on there, a couple of Doritos
in there, don't try.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I honestly want to try the Chicago dog from Chicago.
I haven't done it yet. I think having that and
Wrigley would be pretty cool. What about you, Joe, where
do you go with the hot dogs?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
If I'm feeling advente, maybe get a little chili cheese
action going on, and I'm gonna pay for I'm gonna
pay for it the next day, probably because that's gonna
ruin my stomach.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
But chili and cheese is a nice combo.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
But if I'm just having a regular hot dog or sausage,
use a little bit of honey mustard, a little bit
of catch up maybe, uh maybe a little bit of
hot tape, and maybe some just regular cheese on a
hot dog, like a slice of cheese.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I don't know how common that is, but I'm all
for it.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
No maple syrup, no maple.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Syrup, no beaver tails, none of that Canadian Canadian style
hot dogs over here.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
All right, let's go ahead and jump in here. Let's
start with the MVP odds, where in the AL it's
really become a two horse race between Aaron Judge, Maia's
nine hundred and col Rally Big Dumper plus six hundred,
and then over in the NL it's really show Ao
Tawni minus one thousand and then everybody else with this
said Welsh, are there any surging players that you're maybe
starting to believe have a shot making a trip to

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the podium for the sword.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I don't love this market at all, and I'll tell
you I think this market solely depends on an injury.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I think is Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani and everything
else is just speculation. So if you start to play
the speculation, a Rico I think is very smart in
what he's gonna take. He's gonna be taking the next
guy up. My take is a little bit different, So
I'm on again, there's risk in here taking anybody besides

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the favorites, because it literally is going to bank on injury.
But Kyle Raley is number two in the al, but
jumping out is this wide, wide gap huge to number three,
and it's Terry's scouble And I'm gonna throw Terryk's scuoble
at you, just as a little aside here because his
odds are plus nine thousand plus nine thousand, huge, huge number,

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obviously because he's a pitcher. But the reason I think
it's in play is, let's go to what I said.
We have to assume that Aaron Judge is gonna get hurt.
That's the only way that either one of these bets
makes sense. As fun as Kyle Raley is and you
know we're seeing from a war perspective, he's number two.
Cal Rally is number two in baseball, and I know
Joe's going to talk about that like it's all great.

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I just don't think there is a scenario where cal
Raley's gonna take this unless, let's just say, without an injury,
Aaron Judge tapers back for two months, all of a sudden,
cal just goes on to another step and then the
Mariners are taking the division and blah blah blah. Okay,
so that but here's the scenario. Aaron Judge gets hurt,
then it's cal Raley jumps to your favorite. But what

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if the Mariners start to backtrack? What I cal Rally
has been more of a common like two thirty two
to forty type of hitter. What if he takes a
backtrack in the second half of the season and the
Mariners start to tank. You're not going to give the
MVP to a team that doesn't get into the playoffs. Well,
what's the next step up? How about the pitcher with
the number one war in baseball, almost a full point
more higher than the next guy, Garrett crochet in Trick

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Schooble with a four point three which is only a
couple of little small notches away from cal Rally. And
how about the best record in baseball? And how about
the Tigers getting is an element of what the team
is going to do here in their accolades. And that's
what Trig s Google has. He has seventeen game games
under his belt and he has ten wins. What if
he drops another ten? Is a twenty win guy with

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a war that is as high or higher than cal
Raley has a low two ERA. He's a two pin
five era right now, is near the tippy top of
the league in strikeouts. I think you're gonna have to
look at a team with the most wins in baseball
if he has twenty plus wins, and if a guy
like Aaron Judge is out that we could see a
pitcher take that award in this case. And I just
think from an odds perspective, I don't see the crazy

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value in getting seven to one on cal Rally right now.
But how about ninety to one, you know, for something
that is very plausible under this scenario that we have
to build to bet anybody besides Aaron Judge. So I
move away from this market a little bit, but that's
where I might try to, you know, have some speculative fun.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Joe, what are your thoughts on the MVP markets? Is
cal Rawley a guy that we should be getting invested
with because it felt like a couple months ago no
one really knew if this was for real. It feels
like he is here to stay. But I saw an
interview with him earlier this week and he was saying,
I didn't think this was coming, Like, I actually had
a pretty bad spring training leading up to this. So
do you think it's legit? And would you be investing

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some of your unit allocation into the Seattle Mariners catcher?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
I would yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
And it's funny when you go back and look at
spring training. He hit one eighty six, He had a
thirty percent strikeout right. It's funny because there are certain
players that pop in spring and then flop in the
regular season and vice versa. But cal Rawley is having
one of the best seasons we've ever seen from a catcher.
I don't even think that's hyperbolic. Thirty three home runs,
at this point of the year. I saw, I forget
who was MLB Network or somebody posted a graphic of

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most home runs at this point of the season, and
the company he's with his bonds. It's Sosa, It's Maguire,
It's Ken Griffy Junior. It's pretty phenomenal stuff. A lot
of it does probably hinge on Aaron Judge missing sometime
or going through a horrible slump, but I think you
can spin a narrative of cal Rawley having an elite
offensive season. He's taken a bit of a step back

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in terms of his defensive metrics, but he's still grading
out very positively. He's not quite the best catcher in
the American League anymore necessarily, but still a solid defensive
catcher to go along with what will probably be a
fifty plus home run campaign from behind the dish, and
we've never seen that before. So I think there is
a pathway for him to get some MVP love, especially
because Judge has wanted a couple times. The Mariners and

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Yankees are only separated by four wins in the standings.
The Yankees have kind of cooled off a little bit,
so there is a chance that the mariners finished with
a better record. Don't know how likely that is necessarily,
but I think cal Rawley does make sense as a
sprinkle at the very least. Catchers don't usually get a
lot of love in this category. You don't usually see
catchers winning MVP. There's a couple examples in this century

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Joe Mauer, Buster Posey, but it doesn't happen very often.
But this is the type of season that could very
well be rewarded with an MVP. The batting average, I
think is pretty stable. You know, he's made a lot
of improvements at the dish. He only has a two
to seventy six babbit so he's not getting lucky in
that sense. I think he can maintain somewhere in the
two seventies. And if he gets over fifty home runs
and finishes with eight plus war and he's trending well

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in that direction, he's got five points six already. Rest
of season projections have him between two and a half
and three and a half additional war we could be
looking at a nine win season from a catcher, and
at that point we could see the voters having some
trouble not voting for him at the end of the day,
assuming the records end up pretty close between the Mariners
and the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, cal Rawley will be in the home run derby,
so we'll get to see him and his power on
full display here very very soon. Moving to the cy
Young market, in the AL, it is Scooball who's still
the favorite minus one ninety currently, Garrett Crochet's floating right
around plus seven to fifty at most books, Hunter Brown
thirteen to one, Max Freed thirteen to one, and then
your guy Jacob de Grom at thirteen to one as well. Arico.

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Everyone else is higher odds than sixty to one. In
the NL, Paul skeins he has moved to minus money
minus one seventy as the favorite. Zach Wheeler is closing
the I know, Welsh, I think you grabbed him what
eleven to one at one point a couple months ago.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
He's down. We did that on this show a couple
months Yeah, all the way.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Down to plus three sixty now, so you definitely have
some nice closing line value there. Same question for you, Chris,
are there any surging players that we should be considering
to get invested with in the cy Young whether that's
the AOU or the nut or is it just Hey,
let's stick with the tickets we have. I know, I
think you have a Paul Skins as well tickets, so
you're probably good in the NL. And Scoopball even minus

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one ninety feels betable, especially maybe as a leg to
a parlay or something.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
So if you're asking, like what, I stam Pat, Yeah,
I would stand Pat, I have incredible value on Wheeler.
I think I got plus money value on Paul Skins.
I think those work well. I think there's no value
in the al market. Okay, there's nothing. I mean, scoop
Ball is going to run away with this, so I'm
not if I'm doing anything, it's not there. It would
be in the NL. Now if you can get you know,

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at least three to one on Zach Wheeler, I think
that's still kind of fun. He's rocking Paul Skin. It's
gonna have a really rough time though the guy can't.
Is he gonna get to ten wins? I think we
looked we never I think we saw a starting pitcher
ever win the cy Young without at least ten wins,
So that's gonna be something to watch. I'm gonna take
this just like I did with the with the the

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MVP market in that I think things have to happen.
There's only one place to bet. It's in the NL,
and between Schemes and Wheeler, I don't think there's a
lot of value. But the next guy, there's a huge
jump in value to Logan Webb, who is twenty to one.
He's plus two thousand right now, and he is point

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zero one war away from Crochet. He's less than a
full warpoint from Scooble, so he's technically it's the highest
war of any pitcher in the NL right now. They
added offensive support, it's a pitcher friendly environment. He's got
a two six ERA with an x FIP that's lower.
So if he keeps going on this season, the Giants

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start to take our run and they get into the
wild card. Maybe some how they take the division and
it's behind Logan web and he can get to sixteen
or seventeen wins. He's already a high war pitcher and
you're getting twenty to one odds in a market that's
got multiple He has no picture that's minus you know,
ten thousand or anything like that. You've got an open
market of schemes and Wheeler. I think web if I

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were to speculate, is where I would go simply based
on odds and the numbers. But if you're asking me
as a whole, I'm probably staying away because I've already
got tickets that you have really great returns right now.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
If someone isn't invested in SCOO Ball already, would you
be comfortable drinking the juice that is the minus one
ninety line?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean, like, I like School Bowl is?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I thought I saw it like a huge, massively bigger number.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I've seen it. Minus one ninety is. I've seen a
variety of books have at different places. I've seen minus
through three hundred, but minus one nineties out there. I
can get you confirmation on what book that is, but
it is if.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's a parlay piece or that. Yeah, sure, I mean,
like I'm talking about him being MVP at this point,
going to run away with that, Like Judge, it's only
going to be due to injury. That's the only thing
that's taking Schoople away from that right now. So yeah,
I mean minus one I don't usually bet those, but
minus one I would be interesting. I like your idea
of like a Parley piece if you could still do it,
but that would be probably the only interest. That's why

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the only other things I'm looking at are high odds
with some return probability, and I think that really at
this point in the entire siging market is only logan Web.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Joe, are you seeing any value floating out there in
the cy Young market? What's your take on logan Web
here as well? Twenty to one.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I think logan Web is fantastic. I just don't know
if he is necessarily the guy that the voters are
going to go for here. I think if I'm going
to betting it and Welsh got this number earlier in
the year, and kudos to him because he has a
better line on this, but I think Zach Wheeler still
makes the most sense. At three and a half to one.
You might be able to see four to one depending
on your books. Definitely shop around there, but he is

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a two time runner up. He's finished second in si
Young voting twice. If you're looking at Baseball Reference War,
which I'm not the biggest fan of. I prefer Fangrousse,
but some voters will look at b REF and he
is leading all pitchers in the majors in war this season.
If you're looking at the National League specifically, just in
terms of his FIP, his Sierra, he is right at
the top of those leader boards with names like Logan

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Web and Paul Skeans, and I think that all of
them do have a bit of a chance to win
the award. But I think Skeens being such a favorite
doesn't make a lot of sense to me, partly because
of what well sd Well said. Four wins in seventeen starts,
the Pirates are going to be sellers most likely at
the deadline.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
We'll talk about that more later.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Sure, how many more games is Sean's gonna win this year?
Is he going to finish with seven eight wins? I
don't really see him getting to double digits, and that'll
probably hold him back. So seeing him at minus money
does it make a ton of sense to me. I
think Zach Wheeler is really the favorite here. He should
be the favorite just based on what we've seen from
him this year twenty seven percent strike up minus walk rate,

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His era is two twenty seven. He is a point
nine to one whip. He's right in line with where
Skeins is, except he has a much better team that
he's pitching for, where he will I end up with
probably you know, thirteen or fourteen wins. He's already got eight,
so maybe even sixteen seventeen in a best case scenario.
That seems like the better play to me. Even though
that the odds were better earlier in the year. You're

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still getting plus money on a guy who I believe
should probably be the favorite for this award as of today.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, I don't hate that at all. And man, it's
been such a tough summer in Pittsburgh. Like I have
friends who are die hard Pirates fans. They had season
tickets or the past before this year, and you know
they're not going anymore. People aren't going down to PNC,
one of the most beautiful ballparks in the entire Major League.
So disappointing to see, but over under Paul Skeins gets

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traded in the next twelve months, Welsh, would you put
the line.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I mean like percentages zero percent? Okay, percent okay, zero percent?
Ever that Paul Skans get try I think the Pirates
would treat Paul Skeins like the Angels treated Show Halotani.
They done everything, just go down with the shift to
go down with the ship. And so I mean, I'll
say the odds are better in five years. Okay, if
he doesn't agree to some arbitrational like big contract or whatever,

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and he tries to keep going and they know they
can't do it, there's your probability the next thirty six months,
I say it is zero point five percent.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
It'll happen eventually, though, I think, like they traded glass,
now they got rid of coal, Like, I think eventually
it will happen.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
But none of those guys were like the face of
the organ, like Paul Skeins is, like he's a whole
different breed. I'm not again, I'm not saying it won't happen,
but the whole like the pirate should trade him, It's
not gonna happen anytime soon. It would be like you're
coming into the last year of arbitration, last two or.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Something like that.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, we love you, Paul. We keep doing your thing, man.
Hopefully we can get you some wins sometime soon before
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start making smarter bets. Let's move into some of the
more favorite future bets here that we have for everyone,

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and with us now being eighty ish games into the season,
the season win tot market is certainly heating up. Joe,
are there any teams that have maybe a second half
schedules a bit soft that you can find some value
in down the stretch.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
More so than just a schedule?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
And Welsh, I apologize because I don't think you're gonna
love this one highly.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
This one I would have taken it had you not.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Get to the sheet early. Baby.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
The Diamondbacks, I think that they are gonna see probably
a bit of a tough road here over the next
couple months. They've lost Carbon Burns. They may as well
have lost Zach Allen, who has been one of the
worst pitchers in baseball. Corbyn Carroll heard Josh Naylor hurt,
Suarez likely to be traded, both closers hurt. This is
a team that currently is five hundred and I don't

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see them playing five hundred ball the rest of the way.
So you can get under eighty two and a half wins,
it's juice to minus one thirty. But this is a
team I think is going to be a selling team.
They're not going to probably want to rush back, Corbyn Carroll.
Depending on the severity of that fracture. I've heard that
it's probably not too serious. But this is a team
that doesn't look like they are going to be playing
for much down the stretch, especially in that division. The

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Dodgers are gonna win the division, and then you have
the Padres and the Giants, who are also really good,
probable playoff teams. I don't see the Diamondbacks. I don't
see the Diamondbacks viewing themselves as competitive enough that they
won't just start selling off pieces. Combined with the injuries
that they have dealt with so far this season under
eighty two and a half, I think that maybe my
favorite bet of the whole show today.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Wow, Okay, Welsh, anyone that you're seeing that maybe as
a soft schedule or could be a collapse candidate for
after the trade deadline.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I would say number one is still that Diamondbacks one.
I completely agree with that. This has just been my trend,
and I this is probably the last month I can
do anything with this team. But the Boston Red Sox
they're the total. I'm still well, but but I'm there
because their win total is lower than the Diamondbacks right now,
and the writing is on the wall with the Diamondbacks.
Zach Allen's gone, Merril Kelly's gone, Corbyn Carroll, They're gonna slow.

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You're probably gonna trade one of Rhineo Suarez or Josh Naylor.
It's going to just be shells of this team in
a massively competitive and tough division. The Red Sox are
projected or at least its number is two under. And
I know obviously they traded Ralphaeld Devers, which puts a
big wrinkle in a lot of it. But eighty point
five is the win total, and you can get it

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at minus one oh four, so essentially almost even money.
And the reason I like this the most is they
are right there still in the wild Card. Obviously, this
division can't send everybody the entire wild Card, can't come
out of this. But the Boston Red Sox are three
games back on the wild card right now. They're an
even twenty two and twenty two against teams that are

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five hundred. They've got a positive road record, our home record.
And I expect them to be aggressive in the trade
market because they're so close. Another starting pitcher, maybe another bat,
you know, maybe they circle back on Marcelo's and I
don't know what it looks like, but I don't think
they're going to just let this go. I don't think
I was timpted with the Braves number. By the way,
the Braves look like a team that would do it,
but it's still a high number. And frankly, they're like

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nine games or eleven games back on the wild card
right now. It seems like a foregone conclusion that they
might sell some pieces where I think the Red Sox
are too close. They've got one of the best pitchers
in baseball. Bregman's about to come back, Roman Anthony's getting hot.
Like I think the writing is on the wall that
they're going to make some moves and I think eighty
point five is a number that even though they don't

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make the playoffs, I think they can not make the
playoffs and win eighty four games. So I'm taking the
Red Sox over win total at eighty point five for
almost even money.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Something to keep in mind two is getting into these
dog days this summer, especially when the MLB goes to
the All Star Break. A lot of these sports books
right now are throwing out like any sport profit boost
that you can use. I've seen some MLB specific ones
and just some any sport ones that I've been putting
a lot into the college football futures market or the
NFL futures market. So something considered here if you are

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wanting to drink a little bit juice or go with
something closer to even money, like Welsh, it's I think
that's a great opportunity to use something like that. I
was looking through Fandle right there as Welsh was talking
and seeing maybe if that was something I could get
invested with, because I do like this young core the
Red Sox are building. Let's move to division winners here.
The Detroit Tigers now minus two thousand to win their division.

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The Dodgers have now moved back to minus two thousand
to win their division. There's a little bit of hope
there that maybe the Padres, maybe the Giants could break through.
Minus three forty for Houston, minus two zho five for
the Yankees out East Chicago. Still minus one to eighty
in the Philadelphia Phillies. Gaining some traction here as well,
minus one fifty, So a lot of movement here since

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we've last spoken, Joe Rico in the division winners market,
is there anything you're seeing out there that is interesting
to you?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
The Mets are kind of interesting to me because everybody
has kind of, I don't maybe written them off as
too strong, but doom and gloom is all over New
York with how the Mets have been playing recently, and
they are now plus money for the division at plus
one sixty five, and they're.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Still just two games back of the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
You know, for all the horrible things you see written
on Mets Twitter, they're forty eight and thirty seven. Yes,
they've had a bad month, but this is still a
team that is right within reach. The thing that hurts
them is that they have dealt with a couple of
pitching injuries recently. But they are also a team that is.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Not afraid to spend. They have shown us that and
they will go out in a choir pitching.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I don't think anybody is going to deny that they
can't go out there in a playoff series and have
Paul Blackburn, Frankie Mantas and Blade Tidwell throwing meaningful innings
for them. They are going to go out and get
a pitcher, whether it's an al Contra, Mitch Keller, whoever
it is, maybe even somebody of more impact. They are
going to make some So I think they are still
right within striking distance of this division. They have a

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strong back end of the bullpen, they have a really
fantastic at least top half of their lineup, and I
think this is a team that could very easily still
win this division. Just two games back, you're getting them
at plus money.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
I like it a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
What about you, Welsh? Anyone that could make some moves
at the deadline and their odds would be dropping after
that point.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I just want to say that is my favorite. The
Mets one is definitely my favorite. Taking the kind of
how we were having on our sheet where it's like,
you know, post June before the trade deadline. I'm gonight
throw this one at you because I think the Mets
is the one I would bet if I'm looking for
really good odds. I think the Brewers are another one
of those that you can take a look at for

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a division winner. I do think the Cubs are really
strong and they're probably going to take this, but the
Brewers are two games back from them right now. So
it's really key when we talk about like pre deadline,
because the Cubs could be hyper aggressive. They have absolutely
got the assets to go out make some big moves offense.
They're killers out there. Like I think the Cubs could

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be this sneaky World Series team that you could look at.
But if I want to play in this market, if
anything could happen over the next month, it is the Brewers.
The Brewers are gonna get Brandon Woodruff back. They've also
got some prospect assets that they can maybe go make
some moves. I think offensively, it's a really interesting core
Churio get the heat up. You've got Yelicht, Bryce Terrang

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has played up and this division it's super close, So
why not at plus four to ten plus four to
ten for the Brewers who are two games back from
the Cubs right now. I think it just makes a
lot of sense. They're eight and two in their last ten.
They've got one of the best positive run differentials in
the NL. They've got a higher run differential than the

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New York Mets or the Phillies do in the NL
East right now. So the Brewers are not a team
to sleep on. I know piece of per really likes them,
and it just four to one. I think the odds
are really good.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I want to add real quick, real quick about the
Brewers me south, but in the month of June, they
had the fourth best FIP in all of baseball at
three point fifty four, and then if you go to
the batting side, they had the sixth best WRC plus.
So they were one of the truly elite teams on
both sides of the ball in June.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
And another one little thing I'll add if I'm doing
my math correctly here, they are only one of I
believe two teams in the NL are not. I guess
there's'd be three teams in the NL that have a
positive home at least do not have a negative home
road and versus five hundred records, So they at least

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have an even or positive home record away record, and
versus five hundred teams the Phillies and the Cubs or
the other teams. So it's just you know, don't sleep
on them, and the odds are crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Four to one. That feels like maybe the best play
you guys have noted it all day. Honestly, with the
pitching improving out there in Milwaukee, I think it could
be a great summer for them. Post deadline, guys, let's
talk about some team that can maybe sneak up out
of nowhere Randy or Rko style, potentially win a division
crown for themselves and cash some betters some long shot

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tickets here as well. Welsh, what do you think, who's
someone who's maybe sneaking sniffing around right now that could
potentially be a dark horse to win their very own
division this year?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Five and a half jumped up to me plus five
point fifty four. What is win healthy and rocking. The
best rotation from top to bottom with one of the
best closers in baseball is the Seattle Mariners. The Seattle
Mariners are plus five fifty and the reason is because
the Houston Ashos. The Houston Ashos. They've got a stranglehold
right now. They've got fifty wins. They're six games up

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on the Mariners, which is not insurmountable, by the way,
but they've obviously got a nice little stranglehold on this.
They're seven and three in their last ten. But the
Mariners have got a positive run differential for which feels
like the first time and god knows how long. And
it's a pitching staff.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Their offenses rocking. With an MVP candidate like cal Rawley.
You've got a Rosa and you got Julio going, but
then you've got maybe the best closer and the best
pitching staff. Those are the things that definitely win in
the playoffs. But if you pair that against the Astros team,
which has Alvarez, who's hurt, God knows when he comes back.
Painia just had a fracture. Two biggest pieces of this

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offense or hurt right now. Yes, Kim Smith is kind
of banking up unless they make some moves. I really
think their rotation is susceptible after Hunter Brown. They're going
to have to make some plays there, and I think
the Mariners are a team that could close that gap.
So getting five and a half to one really jumped
out to me. If I'm going to make that bet
for a team that could fade a little bit with
the Astros and their injuries and the Mariners, just that

(27:37):
rotation alone, you know, if Gilbert's right and Kirby's right,
woo looks amazing right now, you just got to watch out.
So that would be where I would go.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Joe, what about you? Are there any divisions to you
that might be a little bit closer at the end
of the day than we're currently thinking.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I think the American League East is a pretty susceptible
division right now. The Yankees have kind of cooled off
more so than I think.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
We were expecting.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
We've talked about them on a couple of these shows
over the course of the year, and I don't think
many of us thought the Yankees lead would just be
a game and a half over the division right now,
which is currently the Rais and second. But I'm actually
going to jump down to the Blue Jays, who are
third in the division. They're two games back, but getting
them at plus four to seventy five again shop around
for the best line. That does feel like a really
solid bet to make. Considering how strong the Blue Jays

(28:21):
were in June offensively, they were a top ten team.
They just got Max Schurzer back. We have to see
how his thumb heals up, because yesterday he had a
really good start against the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
The Blue Jays are playing the Yankees right now in
a massive series.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Surezer was great, but his thumb is a little bit ify,
as it has been for most of the year. But
the Blue Jays are positioned as one of the bigger
buyers at the deadline. They'll probably add a bat. I
think they're going to add a starting pitcher, and I
think they'll probably add a bullpen piece as well. Whether
that is you know, a David Bednar, Mitch Keller, Brian
Reynolds type trade with the Pirates, whether it is going

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to the Marlins, who are probably going to be shopping.
We mentioned earlier that the Diamondbacks are probably going to
have some players for sale. I think the Blue jay
are going to be very very active in this market
and getting them at plus four seventy five, whether just
two games back of the Yankees, who haven't been that
great for a while. I mean, Aaron Judge went through
his struggles. He's back now, He's not what you really
need to worry about, but the rest of that lineup

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just doesn't really scare me all that much. The pitching
has been good at the top with Rodon and Freed,
but after that you don't really know what you're getting
out of them. The pen has been a bit shaky
with Williams earlier in the year. I think he's fine, probably,
but there are a lot of question marks I have
about the Yankees. I'm not sure how this older roster
is going to look as the year goes on. We've
already seen Paul Goldschmidt essentially turn into a platoon bat.
At this point, I'm not really sure what the second

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half looks like for them, but I think they are
a little bit vulnerable, and I think the Blue Jays
of the team i'd want to betting on in the
Al East.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
What about to make or to miss the playoffs? Markets, guys,
are there any teams kind of surging down the stretch
that might be able to make it into the postseason
and give better some current value?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Well, I'm not sure this is their surging, but go
back to my eighty point five over wins for the
Red Sox and just say the Red Sox are three
games back from the wild card right now. They've got
they've only got the Angels in front of them, by
the way, that's it. And then you've got the Mariners,
Blue Jays and Rays. That is tough to get to.

(30:13):
But if I'm going to bank on them being, you know,
like a sneaky over on the wins and they're going
to be aggressive in the trade market and they're getting
Alex Bregman back, I think I could kind of jump
in there. And they're almost three to one right now,
So still almost three to one for the Red Sox
to make the playoffs. There's inherent risk, but that's where
I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Go, Joe, what about you? Who do you think is
potentially in the mix to make a playoff run late
in the season.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
So I don't really love this market as a whole,
But the I think the best play is probably the
Giants at plus one thirty, I think that they're pretty
interesting still right in the mix. They're a game and
a half back of the wild Card. Like I mentioned earlier,
I think the division is probably a foregone conclusion that
it's going to be the Dodgers, but they just went
and got Raphael Devers. Buster Posey is not going to
sit on his hands. I think that he sees an

(30:58):
opportunity team that looks pretty good right now, five games
above five hundred with a plus thirty run differential to
this point of the season. I think he'll continue to
make moves. They have a great two headed monster at
the top of that rotation with Webin Ray. You know,
the pen is a little bit of a question, but
I see the Giants as another team that's just going
to continue to kind of try and make moves here.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Whether they will or not, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
And like I said, this isn't my favorite market, but
plus money for a surging team, I think it does
make sense here. If you are going to bet this,
I think the Giants are the best way to go.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Opposite side of the spectrum. Then let's shift to teams
that maybe in the mix right now that could fall
out of playoff contention by the time we get to
the fall.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Well you first, So if I haven't to have the
Red Sox being a team that jumps up, I'm gonna
have to take someone out. I don't think four teams
from the Al East are going to be the ones
that are going to go in, And unfortunately, I'm gonna
have to pick on the opposite side of mister Joe
Rico here and say it's the Toronto Blue Jays that
are going to be the ones that are There are

(31:59):
two games up right now, Seattle's like dead even there.
But of all the teams AL and NL as we
record this that have a playoff spot, so that is
divisional winners and wild card, there's only one team with
a negative run differential. It's Toronto Blue Jays. That's the
only team there. So you've got a red hot Rays
team who they are scoring runs. They've got some pitching depth.

(32:22):
I think if they want to make some moves they
probably won't.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
They can.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I just don't know how aggressive and what it's going
to look like. What is the best move the Blue
Jays can do. Bring in Trader Savage, your savage from
the Miners. I don't think that's enough. I think you
have to be really aggressive in the trade market, and
I think that's where Boston's going to be. The Mariners
I've obviously talked about like how crazy they can be.
So I'm going to say that the Blue Jays are
the ones that get knocked out, and you're almost getting
two to one if you make that bet right now,

(32:47):
because there's only so many of those Al East teams
that can do it. And I'm going to say the
only negative run differential offensive side a team is going
to be the one that's knocked out in the Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Joe, who do you think is going to fail to
go in the postseason?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Well, we're kind of on the opposite ends of this one.
I think the Mariners are potentially a team that could
struggle just because and there's a couple of reasons. It's
not just because of one thing. So we'll start with
the pitching. The last season, they had one of the
best pitching staffs we've ever seen. Everybody healthy, everybody doing great.
Hasn't been quite the same story this year. Luis Castillo
on the surface three fifty five RA, but he's not

(33:23):
Luis Castillo of old anymore. Logan Gilbert had the flexer
strain earlier in the year. George Kirby missed a bunch
of time. Bryce Miller forget about him. I don't think
the pitching is as deep as we might assume it
to be. These guys need to really regain that top form,
and it is possible. It's certainly possible that they do,
probably more likely for Gilbert and Kirby than it is
for Castillo. But then when you look at the offensive

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side of things, it's essentially cal Rawley and then everybody else.
Randy Rose Arena has been pretty solid. JP Crawford has
been pretty good as well, But I mean Julio sitting
here slightly above league average two to fifty eight batting average,
one h nine WRC plus. He hasn't been blowing anybody away.
It's really been the cal Rawley show. And as much
as I think that, you know, he's still a good
bet for MVP. He's worth wagering on, et cetera. If

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he does cool off, if cayl Rawley all of a
sudden goes into a huge slump, which is definitely possible,
I think this team could be in a little bit
of trouble. While they do have a positive run differential,
it's plus seventeen for the whole season, you know, it's
not It's not crazy. The Blue Jays being negative, yes,
is not my favorite, but it's a difference of twenty
runs over the course of the season. There so that

(34:28):
one I think is really close. I just feel like
the Mariners don't have enough of a supporting cast, and
I think Welsh alluded to it earlier. They're not a
team that's going to go out there and make big
moves at the deadline. I think this is the team
that they're going to go in to the rest of
the season with, and I just don't know if it's
quite strong enough. So I would wager that the Mariners
probably don't get in plus one point fifteen on those

(34:49):
odds right now. I think it could go either way,
and it's another market that's not my favorite TIBT. But
if I were going to be wagering here, it's going
to be the Mariners to miss the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Let's talk what everyone wants to know about World Series winners.
The Dodgers still currently the favorite plus two forty five.
The Yankees all the way down to six to one
just a couple of months ago. You could get them
round eight, nine to one. That has sent trunk. The
Tigers finally in the respects of the books as well,
that they probably deserve seven to one, the Phillies eight
to one as they're surging, and the Astros plus nine

(35:19):
to fifty a Rico. Who's the best chalk value right now?
Of those favorites sub you know, ten to one odds.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I think it's the Phillies. I think the Phillies are
the most complete team. Their bullpen hasn't been quite what
I was expecting it to be this year. They have
dealt with injuries and suspensions and all the rest of it.
But this is a team that has a solid lineup.
They just got Bryce Harper back. More than a solid lineup.
That top half is I would say pretty elite. Turner, Schwarber, Harper,
boem Cast, Theanos is fantastic. Their pitching is an embarrassment

(35:50):
of Riches, Wheeler, Sanchez, Lozardo who kind of scared us
a while there, but I think he's back. Ranger Suarez
has been brilliant, Mick Abel Andrew Painter on the way.
You know, we have a all at back end of
the pen here with Kirkering and Strom. Forget about Romano.
But I think this is a team that also could
potentially make a move or two for a reliever Aaron.
You don't even really need a factor in Aaron Nola

(36:10):
into this equation to think that this team could be
well good enough to get to the World Series and
potentially win it, considering their top end pitching depth and
the offensive firepower that they have as well.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
What about you, Welsh Well, I took.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
The chalk word really specific and because of that, I'm
not going to do I can't do anything in the
ANL besides the Dodgers right now. I just don't think
the It just doesn't make any sense. The odds aren't
good enough though. The Dodgers are susceptible one hundred percent.
So I got to move to the AL where I
think things are open. And if I'm going to go
with this word chalk, how about the Yankees. It's seven

(36:43):
to one, you know, I mean there isn't a Dodgers
life team in the AL right now, and the Yankees
at seven to one, knowing what they've gotten out and
what they can have assets to trade. Absolutely, do they
have some holes, yes, but gold Schmid's played amazing. Aaron
Judge is Aaron Judge. Max Freed has been an absolute
beast and win right. The combo of Devin Williams and

(37:05):
Luke Weaver is absolutely devastating. So it's like, to me,
You've got to have the pieces. You've got to have
the offense, you've got to have the pitching, and you've
got to have the bullpen. I think there may be
a piece away offensively that they can make a move.
I think it's more important to secure one more pitching
piece to go with Radon and Freed, and I think
those are really obtainable. So from a chalk standpoint, to
get seven to one on the Yankees, I'm gonna take that.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
What about for those dirty d Jens out there, there's
someone like a second tier dark horse for you Welsh
that maybe we should begin invested in.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Well, let's do this together. Because Joe put this first.
I completely agree with this. I think it's really hard. Al. Yeah,
we're kind of holding answer. I think the al with
the same argument that I just made, you could be like, okay, well,
you know, start playing some of those dark horses. But
it's like the Tigers are another good one, but they're
like eight to one, the odds aren't really that great.
Going through. The dark horse was the Chicago Cubs, and

(37:57):
we both picked them because if they are, if they're
truly going to be as aggressive as being made out
in the market. Some are saying behind the scenes, the
Cubs are going to be the most aggressive if that's
the case, and you can bring in a cup because
they need pitching. If you can bring in let's say,
two big starting pitchers their offense with Pete Crow and
Kyle Tucker, it's near the tippy top, and then maybe

(38:19):
you got to get a bullpen piece or if you've
got like a healthy and working right Ryan Presley and
Porter Hodge and Palencia has been decent. Like if you
have that, you actually might have the bullpen. So you've
got a hyper focus, hyper focus on that pitching. And
if they can do that at thirteen to one, I
think they're a really dangerous team to look at, especially
if the Dodgers rotation, you know, just can't stay healthy.

(38:41):
So I just was in lockstep with Joe. If I
was gonna make one in the like, you know, plus
fifteen type of range, the Cubs were the standout to me.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Joe, you're also smoking that Chicago pack. What are you
thinking about the cuvees here down the stretch?

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, I don't really have too much to add on here.
They have a great lineup.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I think Pca probably cools off a little bit, but
even if he does, still an excellent player all around.
The pitching is where they need to add. I totally
agree there. If they didn't lose Justin Steele, then this
would be a whole different conversation. But Matthew Boyd and
im and Naga is probably not quite enough there at
the top. I think Jamison ti Own is a lot
better than the four to forty four era suggests, But

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they're going to be adding. If we're going to believe
any of the reports we've seen, there are going to
be a couple of trades made to bring some.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Guys to Chicago.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
And I think even if they don't make trades, right,
this is a team that's fourteen games above five hundred
to this point of the season. There are only two
teams three teams that have a better record than them,
the Dodgers, the Tigers, the Phillies like they are among
the elites even as currently constructed. And I think, considering
all the smoke we've heard around some trades being done,
we could be looking at the Cubs at the end
of the regular season as a team that has the

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best record in all of baseball.

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the way. All right, guys, let's talk about the MLB
trade deadline here in a little rapid fire, starting with
which teams are likely to buy and thus surge in
the future betting markets. What are you thinking here, Joe.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
So, I've already mentioned a couple of them, the Cubs,
We've talked about the Blue Jays, the Mets, the Yankees.
These are the teams that are probably going to be
looking to add. It's probably pitching. When it comes to
the Cubs, the Blue Jays, the Mets, the Yankees, I
think they could go a couple different ways. They're probably
going to look to add a bat and probably some
pitching depth as well. But those are the main teams
that I think are going to probably see some massive

(40:48):
changes in odds between a week before the deadline and
a week after.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Well, sho anyone you can add to that list.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, I mean I agree with the Mets. I think
the bet earlier that Joe talked about is why I
like the Mets. I think they're to be aggressive. I've
mentioned the Red Sox clearly, you know. I think the
win total over I think they need to be more
aggressive than anybody if they're going to keep pace with
this division and sell this idea that they didn't sell
Devers to be sellout so that they're going to keep
competing and they're getting Bregman back. I'll throw one more

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the Reds. The Reds have been just a sneaky team
that's kind of looming around their third in the wild
card race right now, two and a half games back
in the NL. That team, Terry Francona, is there to
be aggressive. I think they're going to be buyers. They've
got pitching, they need bullpen help. I think they could
use another kind of leader bat. I think the Reds
and taking it to what your point of this is

(41:39):
is who are teams that can make trades that can
affect the odds. This is why I think the mets
in what Joe's bet was earlier. Why it makes sense.
This is why I think the Red Sox in their
win total is super low and the Reds are another one.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Reds.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I think I got a higher win total than the
Red Sox right now. But if you want to look
at making the playoff markets or win totals with the Reds,
I think them make trades will absolutely in fact impact
the future markets for them.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
What about the inverse of this, who's throwing in the tow,
Who's saying this isn't our year and potentially going to
sell that we should be fading down the.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Stretching your Welsh Number one is the aarzone of Diamondbacks
of impact. I think there's clear teams that we know.
I think the Pirates we know, the Marlins, we know
like that's not any good. The White Sox you know
Robert at some point. But I don't think that affects
any of the markets. I think those were already built
into those markets. Sure the Diamondbacks does not. And this
is why Joe's bet from earlier is so smart. Eighty

(42:32):
two wins is still up there. When the Diamondbacks start
to sell off, that number should come back down and
they're going to have trouble winning games. Orioles. I think
that's another clear one and the sneaky one I've alluded
to earlier. How about the Atlanta Braves. The Atlanta Braves,
they're just so far back right now. I think the
next three weeks is absolutely critical for them. But we've
also heard rumors of Marcel Azuna be involved in trades

(42:54):
that I don't know if this floated around about like
the Chris Sales stuff, I'm not sure they would ever trade.
I think the Braves might be a team that sell
off a couple pieces to move to next year and
not go crazy. But I do think there is the
potential that they could sell off a couple pieces knowing
they're not competing, and that could have an effect as
well on some of the markets.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Who do you think are the biggest sellers come the
trade deadline? That could shift the markets a little bit.
Joe that we haven't mentioned yet, So.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Like Welsh mentioned, a lot of them aren't gonna they're
not contenders. This would really be if you're looking to
bet win totals. But the Pirates, the Marlins, the Diamondbacks,
the Orioles, I think the Red Sox potentially as well.
I don't know exactly what's going to happen in Boston.
It's been a rather hard season to forecast. But if
they do go on a bit of a skid over
the next couple weeks, I could see some trades happening.

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I could see Chapman getting moved. I could see potentially
Duran getting moved, and that would probably kill any over
win total bets. But that's when we kind of have
to just monitor and see over the next couple weeks.
If you're looking at bet it, just monitor day to
day how the Red Sox are doing. If they go
on a bit of a cold streak here and lose
six of the next seven, that could really this time
of year, these little streaks can really dictate the future

(44:02):
of your franchise, So that'd be one to keep an
eye on as well.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
What about you here, Welsh, Is there anyone that when
we go into the singular player markets, whether that's MVP
CY young contenders that you're potentially fading due to their teams,
is shift in movement here down the stretch?

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So, I mean we've talked a lot about the Mariners
on both sides of this. I've obviously talked about the
positivity of like, hey, five and a half to one,
But let me come back to the very first thing
I said was, if you know, something were to happen
to Judge and cow Rally's up there, how is there
anybody else? Well, if cow Rally kind of comes back
down to earth, you know, Joe, you've also kind of
talked about how it's been the cal Raley show. Well,

(44:43):
if it stops being the cow Rally show and then
they go and you know, they don't make any moves,
Let's say, because they've been comfortable, we've got Aron, or
we made our moves last year, cal Rally's holding us up.
And then they stand pat and don't make any moves
and cow Rally comes back down to earth a bit
not being this MVP like candidate. Then I actually think

(45:03):
that could affect the cow Raley market and the MVP
market for him. So if you're betting that, I think
there's some it's a little sustainable or susceptible to if
the Mariners as a team keep backtracking and they don't
make any moves and set on their laurels, that I
think those odds are going to just really kind of
fade away for col Rally, And that's speculative. You know,

(45:24):
he's number two and war in baseball and stuff. But
I think the lack of moves from the Mariners could
be the problem.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Joe, anyone that you see in the MVP or Cy
Young markets as contenders that their fate could maybe shift
when their teams are making moves of the deadline.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Yeah, so this one I did leading off.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
I filled in for Welsh a couple of days last
week and resident Mets fan Joe Pi's a P and
I were talking about the potential for Jacob deGrom to
maybe be traded at the deadline, And while initially it
seemed really far fetched, the more I've thought about it,
the more I don't think it really is. Considering where
the Rangers are in their trajectory, They've had.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
A bad season.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
They could still potentially turn things around and make the postseason,
but there's also a chance that they don't want to
be stuck with Jacob Bagram making thirty plus million dollars
heading into his age thirty eight and thirty nine seasons. Sure,
who needs a starting pitcher the New York Mets do.
Where did Jacob deGrom spend the majority of his career
and win two. So Young's in New York, so that
could be a marriage that potentially does make sense. I

(46:20):
have been beating the drum all year. Jacob Degram, cy Young,
Zai Young cy Young. If he goes to the National
League in a trade, potentially that would obviously kill it.
But that's just something that people should be potentially aware of.
Not that it's likely, but this as a dark horse,
maybe Jacob Degram does get moved, which would be a
hell of a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
It avoid your tickets, but then maybe you could jump
in and get like six to seven to one. If
de Graham was traded immediately in the end. Now maybe
his odds because remember we talked about like Wheeler and schemes,
maybe they're still gonna you're still gonna have credit for
kind of the season. But then if he really kills
it in the second half, he has the potential. It
could be just an interesting thing to think about. At
least your ticket would be voided. But yeah, I agree

(46:59):
with you. There, that's it. It's an interesting take too,
that the trade could kill this market that you've been
kind of excited about.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, you might be filling in for Joey p On
leading off if the Mets make that trade, because he
might be partying down in the streets of Brooklyn. If
that's the case, let's go ahead, let's close out the
show here big long shot bets of the Month. These
are gonna be anywhere from eight to one or longer. Welsh,
what do you have for the people in this beautiful
month that is July.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
So I feel like I had a pretty I've had
a pretty good run. I don't remember what my card
looked like, but we've had some really good long shot
ones that I feel comfortable with. And I'm gonna throw
this one because I think that market is getting kind
of quiet, like it is pretty tough to find. Maybe
my Turk Scooble one would have qualified at nine thousand,
you know, a plus nine thousand, so ninety to one

(47:48):
for MVP. I think you could put that in this
same bank. But I'm gonna throw this one at you. Yes,
Jacob Wilson has a stranglehold, stranglehold on al Rookie of
the Year indeed, but it come with an emptiness as
far as like big stats, it's a team that's not
really winning you know, there's not big home run numbers,

(48:09):
there's not big stolen base numbers, but there's huge batting average.
No denying that. Let's say that comes back down to
earth a little bit. How about forty to one on
Roman Anthony right now, who has had an early crazy struggle,
but though he has been hot as can be the
last couple of game, we're talking multi hit games, game
winners and all the things I've laid out. I've done
this a couple of shows though with the Red Sox

(48:30):
that you know, he's got the full run of play,
he's got a full half season in front of him.
What if he puts up twenty plus homers and the
Red Sox starts surging. He is a candidate of all
of these guys in the al that I think could
really boost up. Maybe it ends up only being on
like a fandel where you can buy out of it
if the market becomes closer. But the Rookie of the
Year award does not have to be done July first,

(48:53):
and Roman Anthony is here, he's getting red hot, and
you're getting crazy odds for the number one prospect in baseball.
So I think that is something that I'm willing to
take a little stab at.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah, I don't mind to sprinkle on that at all. Joe,
bring us home your big long shot bet of the
month for July.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
I don't need to harp on about this one because
people probably already know where I'm heading, if they know
me at all. I'm still interested in betting Jacob de
Gram as the cy Young winner, and people probably think
I'm crazy. And yes, Treik schoobl does have an absolute
stranglehold on this award. I'm not gonna deny that, not
even scoopl has been brilliant. But we also know that
Schooble has a bit of an injury history. Most pitchers

(49:32):
have a bit of an injury history.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Everybody's always Jacob de Gram like Jacob to absolutely.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
No no question about it. Everybody is always one pitch away.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
But de Gram also just had the surgery in the
off season to repair his UCL And generally speaking, you
have about three to four hundred innings after Tommy John
where your arm is good to go. We saw it
with Verlander a couple of years ago, off of his
TJ when he was older than Verloin, when he was
older than de Gram, had a sub two era Cy
Young World Series had a brilliant year, and we've seen

(49:59):
that kind of year from Jacob de Grim.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
He is a two zero eight ERA and a.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Point eighty eight whip through half a season ninety five innings,
he has been outstanding. This one is kind of banking
on a Tarik Schouble injury, not that I want that
to happen. I love drig Scouble. He is a brilliant pitcher.
But if Drake Scouble were to get injured, I think
that there's a good chance the voters would look at
Jacob de Grom. This isn't just about statistics. This is
also about narratives. And I've said this before. Jacob de

(50:24):
Grom coming back after years of not really being able
to pitch, if he's able to finish with a sub
two ERA and a whip that's below point nine, he's
got eight wins and sixteen starts. He's pacing out for
a sixteen win season. If Dagrom finishes sixteen wins, one
ninety five ERA point nine whip, I think it'd be
hard for the voters not to give him the award. Now, Scooble,
if Scooble's healthy and he finishes out continuing doing what

(50:47):
he's doing, then he's gonna win it. But this is
kind of a contingency plan of if Scooble gets hurt,
if Crochet gets hurt, if one of these guys at
the top.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Or a couple of them get hurt.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
You know, in a year, if baseball nothing makes sense
in baseball, right, it would make perfect sense that Jake
it to Grom would be one of the only pitchers
to stay healthy all year.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
So this is kind of a crazy one.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
I know it probably sounds crazy still, but I've been
on this since the preseason and I'm continuing to stay
on it.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
At fourteen to one.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Sticking to your guns, Joe Rico, That's why I like you.
That's why I appreciate you always having you on the program.
Well she as well. Thanks so much for bringing your
analysis to us today. That is going to do it
for us today on the Betting Pros podcast. Thank you
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