Between 2 Hats: LFG

Between 2 Hats: LFG

Between 2 Hats is a dynamic podcast hosted by Patrick and Phil, where they dive into business, life, entrepreneurship, and the world of sales, especially within the SFR (Single-Family Rental) industry. But beyond just business, the heart of the podcast is about people. Each episode features interesting guests with unique talents and experiences, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at their personal journeys. Instead of just focusing on success stories, Patrick and Phil aim to uncover the human side of entrepreneurship—what drives people, the challenges they’ve overcome, and what makes them tick. Listeners can expect real conversations, insightful takeaways, and a mix of humor and wisdom as they navigate through experiences in sales, investing, and life in general. It’s all about connections, stories, and getting to know people beyond their professional titles. The podcast is perfect for anyone looking for inspiration, real talk about business, or engaging conversations with fascinating people.

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May 14, 2025 62 mins

 Episode 9 — Inside Competitive Eating with JWebby 🔥

From 51 sausages in 8 minutes to 354 donut holes in 10, James Webb is not just a competitive eater — he’s a global force. Currently ranked #4 in the world, with 7 world records and a Guinness title under his belt, James takes us deep into the raw, strategic, and downright insane world of professional eating.

This isn’t about stuffing your face. It’s about disci...

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🎧 Episode 8 — Jennifer Krenson: Operations, Parenthood & the Power of Listening

She didn’t just grow with the industry — she helped define it.

From leasing apartments with a paper application to running operations for 4,300+ homes, Jennifer Krenson has lived every side of this game.

📈 Multi-family, SFR, and now BTR — she’s seen it all.
💥 Faced the doubters.
🚧 Built teams from scratch.
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This week on Between 2 Hats, we sit down with Luke Tomaszewski — founder of ProxyPics and a true game-changer in the world of real estate data collection.

From grinding out 18-hour days in his car as an appraiser to launching one of the most innovative tech platforms in the industry, Luke’s story is proof that frustration can fuel billion-dollar ideas.
Tired of wasting hours driving for simple exterior photos, he decid...

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Beth O’Brien didn’t just step into the mortgage industry — she redefined it.

In this episode of Between 2 Hats LFG, we sit down with the powerhouse herself — Beth O’Brien, Founder & CEO of Encore Finance, and one of the most influential women in real estate finance. With over $20 billion in transactions under her belt and a legacy that spans Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Auction.com, and CoreVest, Beth breaks down the mind...

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In this episode of Between 2 Hats LFG, we sit down with Trish Beeman, powerhouse behind The Beeman Group, to dive into her unexpected shift from journalism to real estate — and how a family decision turned into a legacy.

📺 She covered some of the world’s most shocking moments — including 9/11 — from inside the control room. But Trish walked away from the spotlight to build something bigger: a career in the SFR industry.

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In this episode of Between 2 Hats LFG, we sit down with Amanda Blackmon — a true pioneer and powerhouse in the SFR industry.
Let’s be real: Amanda Blackmon didn’t follow the rules — she rewrote them.

She walked away from a decade in multi-family to take a shot at the SFR industry when no one even knew what it was. Her boss told her she was crazy. He said she’d fail.
He was dead wrong.

Today, Amanda is a ce...

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April 2, 2025 63 mins

Shut up and listen. Seriously.

In this episode of Between 2 Hats, Patrick and Phillip break down a skill most people think they have—but don’t: listening. Too many people walk into a room and start talking without actually paying attention to what’s happening around them. Big mistake.

The real pros? They know the power of reading the room.
👀 Watch body language.
👂 Listen—not just to words, but to what’s ...

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March 26, 2025 63 mins

In this episode of Between 2 Hats, Patrick and Phillip take a deep dive into relationships—both in business and in life. From the relationships they’ve built in the Single-Family Rental (SFR) Industry and Build-to-Rent (BTR) Industry to their personal relationships with friends and spouses, they explore what it takes to create meaningful connections.

They also discuss the foundation of strong relationships in business, the role of t...

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February 14, 2025 63 mins
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