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August 13, 2025 82 mins

In this episode, Kent talks to Kellie Sullivan Herring about her journey out of evangelicalism, her son's coming out, and the beauty of life with a transgender child. Kellie grew up in a fundamentalist evangelical family, attended Christian schools, and now identifies as an atheist. She is the proud mom of three spectacular humans, one of whom is a trans boy. Kellie is a fierce advocate, ally, activist, and all-around amazing person.

Original air date: 9/14/2022

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