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What if PMS isn’t inevitable but a signal you can decode? We sit down with physician assistant and women’s wellness coach, Amy Dave, to unpack cycle syncing: a practical way to align food, fitness, and your calendar with the four phases of your menstrual cycle. Amy shares how shifting her approach from “push harder” to “work with biology” transformed exhaustion into energy in just a few months. She saw a reduction in cramps, smoothing mood swings, and sharpening focus while working and raising three boys.

Across the conversation, we break down how hormones change week to week and what your body actually needs in each phase. You’ll hear why 15–30 minute workouts can outperform daily 45 minute grinds when they match your cycle, which foods to reduce to lower inflammation, and how small diet tweaks can ease symptoms without rigid rules. We also explore tracking fundamentals, what a healthy cycle length looks like, and how to spot patterns that suggest hormone imbalances. For those navigating fertility hurdles, Amy explains how lifestyle can support PCOS and fibroids, and where endometriosis may still require medical care, while lifestyle changes can still reduce pain and stress.

This is more than a health chat; it’s a life design framework. Learn to plan meetings, social events, and deep work around your natural energy peaks, and protect rest when your system asks for it. We talk candidly about normalising these conversations at home so partners understand and kids grow up informed and empathetic. You’ll walk away with clear starting steps. For tools and deeper dives, Amy shares her free guide on living without PMS, plus her podcast and YouTube resources to keep you supported.

Connect with Amy on Instagram @thewealthofwellness or through her website: https://thewealthofwellness.com/

Grab her free guide here: https://subscribepage.io/LifewithoutPMS 

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(00:18):
Welcome to Beyond Organised, the podcast that helps you simplify your life and amplify your purpose. I'm Mel Schenker, life coach, speaker, founder of She's Organised, but, more importantly, a wife and mum of four little kids. If you've ever felt overwhelmed, like you're constantly juggling everything but never quite catching up, this is the place for you. Here we go beyond just the tidying up and creating systems. We're talking about real life strategies that bring order to your life, but also we talk about the things beyond the organising, the things that really matter, like your parenting relationships and so much more. So grab your coffee and let's dive in.

(00:59):
Welcome back to another episodeof Beyond Organised.
Today I have Amy Dave with us,and I'm really excited to hear
what she has to say todaybecause I know I'm going to
learn something new.
So just to give you a bit ofbackground on who Amy is, she
has been a physician assistantfor over 24 years.

(01:20):
She's also a women's wellnesscoach, specializing in helping
mums navigate through theircrazy life by syncing their
daily habits with their monthlycycles.
A mum of three boys, Amyrealized her passion while
making changes to improve herown symptoms.
Using lifestyle changes, Amyhelps women overcome chronic

(01:40):
fatigue, frustration, stress,and feelings of overwhelm,
replacing them with increasedenergy, efficiency, and
empowerment.
Amy also helps women transitioninto menopause gracefully.
Her podcast is called TheIncredible Mum Life, where she
shares stories of the wildthings our kids do.
Oh my goodness, you sound likemy kind of woman.

(02:01):
Welcome to the show, Amy.
Thank you so much for havingme.
I'm excited to be here.
Oh, you are so welcome.
I feel like what we're going tobe talking about today is
something that has just alwaysbeen pretty taboo.
And people don't really liketalking about being a woman,
really, essentially.
And I know I'm going to learnso much from you, even just from

(02:24):
the little bits you gave mebefore the show.
So, what inspired you to dowhat you do and tell us a bit
more about it?

Amy (02:31):
Sure.
So I'm a physician assistant.
I don't know if you have thosein uh where you are, but here in
the US, it's it's like inbetween a nurse and a doctor.
So we can do more than a nursecalled.
No.
Yeah, a little bit less than adoctor.
It's you know common here, butum and I when I became a PA, I
was big on preventive medicine,you know, use diet and exercise

(02:54):
to lower your blood pressure,lower your cholesterol.
And I thought I was eatinghealthy.
I thought I was exercising, um,you know, I was doing cardio 45
minutes most days of the week.
And I wasn't feeling good.
I was exhausted.
I it just kind of felt like azombie, is what I say.
Like I was doing my dailytasks, running out of fears.

(03:15):
I didn't really feel anything.
Um, and then COVID hit.
And while we were home, I had acouple years before that I had
gone back to school and got myadvanced certificate of
nutrition and other things.
And I had heard about thisthing called cycle syncing back
then, but I was a busy mom.
I had three kids, I was inschool, I and I was working.

(03:36):
So I didn't have time toresearch it or anything.
Uh and thankfully during ourquarantine, I did have time.
Right.
And I I learned about thisthing called cycle syncing,
where basically for women whohave their monthly bleed, you
actually go through fourdifferent phases every month.

(03:57):
And as the hormones rise andyou know lower and fluctuate,
um, your body needs differentnutrients.
So you need to be eatingdifferent foods, you need
different kinds of exercises forpeak performance and muscle
tone and everything.
So one week cardio might bebetter, and the next week
strength training might bebetter, right?

(04:17):
So it changes.
So you can't do the sameexercise every day.
Yeah.
Um it also works with yoursocial calendar.
So you you might notice duringyour month that there are some
weeks where you're more social,more outgoing.
So the week.
Start talk to me.
Yes.
There's other weeks whereyou're like, nope, I'm staying
in my pajamas, I'm staying home.

Mel (04:38):
Yeah.

Amy (04:39):
Um, and if you learn to incorporate your monthly cycle
into your home life, yourbusiness life, your
relationship, you can eliminateyour monthly symptoms.
One.
So things like cramping,bloating, acne, heavy bleeding,
mood swings.

Mel (04:55):
Um, that's a big one for me.

Amy (04:57):
Yeah.
Um, you know, and then just awhole lot of other things.
So when I started doing this,within four months, all my
symptoms went away.
What?
Wow.
And then when I was feelingbetter, and then I was waking
up, I had energy.
Oh, you know, I had more mentalclarity.
And then I was like, oh, well,now let's work on my

(05:22):
spirituality.
And now let's work on mindsetshifts, and now let's start a
business and teaching the worldof toilet stuff.
Um, so yes, it and it's beenevolving.
I've been doing this about fiveyears now.
Yeah, and I actually I eat morethan I used to.
I used to eat a lot of saladsand things, but I'm eating more
and I'm exercising 15 to 30minutes a day, max.

(05:45):
Yeah.
And I'm seeing more results nowthan I was doing 45 minutes of
hard work.
Where have you been all mylife?
That's what I that's what Iask.
Um, I learned this in my 40s,so I wish I'd known this in my
teens and twenties.

Mel (06:01):
Yeah, for sure.
And look, we've got listenersof all ages here, from quite
young in the early 20s and thatthrough to retirement age and
probably even past this season,to be honest.
But wow, I oh, where have youbeen?
So I I've got to ask, what issomething that you feel holds

(06:24):
women back in learning aboutthis, in in moving forward, in
managing their cycles andeverything?
What's something that kind ofis a bit of a resistance for
you?
We don't even know about it.

Amy (06:36):
Yeah.
So if you go to your doctor andyou say, Oh, I have terrible
cramps every month, I'm soirritable, I'm yelling at
everybody, and then I'm bleedingheavy, you know, the doctor's
gonna say, Well, I can put youon birth control pills.

Mel (06:49):
Yes.

Amy (06:49):
Or you can take pain medications and use a heating
pad.

Mel (06:53):
Yeah.

Amy (06:54):
There's not many options.
Yeah.
As there are.
So if you change your diet, youchange your exercise, you
eliminate inflammatory foods.
So things like dairy, gluten,fried foods, right?
Those are inflammatory andinflammation causes cramping.
So if you eliminate thosefoods, you can eliminate
cramping, right?

Mel (07:14):
So there's Is it just, you know, do we eliminate those
foods for good, or is it just atthat at certain times in the
month?

Amy (07:22):
So I I didn't eliminate them all the way.
I just cut them down by maybeabout 50%, 70%.
But I still have bread and Istill have pasta.
And yeah, just not as often asI used to.
Um and I can tell.
I mean, there are some monthswhere I have no symptoms at all.

Mel (07:39):
Yeah.

Amy (07:40):
And there are some months, if we're on vacation or at a
wedding or, you know, had abunch of parties or whatever,
holidays, then that next month,yes, I will have some symptoms.
But one, they're much milderthan they were.
And two, I know exactly whatcaused the symptoms, and I know
exactly which foods tocounteract the system.
So it's much better now than itused to be.

(08:01):
It's not perfect.

Mel (08:03):
That's okay.
Well, we still gotta live ourlife too.
But the fact that you're aware,I mean, that you can manage it,
that you know sort of whatbuttons to push, and this is
incredible.
This is like, this ismind-blowing to me.
I'm so excited.
So, what is one thing, and onlyone thing, that you wish women

(08:25):
knew in regards to all of this?

Amy (08:27):
Um, the first thing is to track your cycle.
So we know when we have ourbleed, right?
Um, but if you start trackingit either on a paper calendar or
there's like tons of digitalapps too, yeah, where you can
track.
Um, a normal cycle is about 28to 32, 35 days.

(08:49):
If you're bleeding less oftenthan that, or if it's going
longer than 35 days or so,that's an indicator that your
hormones are out of balance.
Um, if you're trying toconceive and you're tracking
ovulation and you notice you'renot ovulating, that's also a
symptom of hormone imbalance.

(09:09):
Yeah.
And then if you're not feelinggreat, your body's trying to
tell you something.
Yeah.
It's not a normal part ofliving.
It's not, oh, you're just awoman, you have to deal with it.
Which is how I grew up, right?
I thought this until I was 40or something.
Yeah.
Uh, it's just a woman, I'm awoman, I have to deal with it
every month, there's nothingelse I can do until I learned

(09:30):
about this cycle sinking.
And now there I know there arelots of things you can do.

Mel (09:36):
Wow.
So if someone does have thehormone imbalance, do they need
to go down a more medical typepath to get things sorted out?
Or it really diet and exerciseand going with the cycles really
can help them ovulate again andand all that kind of stuff.

Amy (09:57):
Yeah, they can boost fertility.
If you have PCOS, it can reducethe number of like cysts on the
ovaries.
What about endometriosis?
It can help.
Endometriosis is a littletricky, but it can help um make
fibroids smaller.
Yeah.

Mel (10:12):
Yeah.

Amy (10:13):
So it can it can definitely help.
Just endometriosis is a littletricky because it it can travel
outside the uterus too.

Mel (10:19):
Yeah, yeah.

Amy (10:20):
Um generally needs medical intervention.
It definitely helped here's aquick tip.
If you go to Pinterest and youjust search cycle syncing,
you'll get a whole bunch ofcharts and graphics and um you
know, circular graphics andsquare graphics about different
foods you should be eating,different exercises you should
be doing.
Yeah.
Um there's that out.

(10:43):
Yeah, there's tons ofinformation out there.
There's books you can read.
Um, you know, there's coacheslike me out, they're called
hormon coaches, fertilitycoaches, um, cycle syncing
coaches.
Great.
It's it's definitely up andcoming.

Mel (10:58):
Look, I think especially in today's day and age, when
you're seeing the increase infertility issues just going down
that path, and how many peopleum ending up using IUI or IEVF
and the astronomical costsinvolved with that, not just
financially, but emotionally,mentally, just the whole works,

(11:22):
physically.
It's it's very taxing.
So the thought that for somewomen, and I get that ever
there's a lot of differentfertility reasons, but if this
can give hope to just some womento be able to help their bodies
naturally heal and get into Imean, this is gold.

Amy (11:45):
This is gold.
And I went through all theinfertility treatments and the
AIs and the IVF and everything.
So I know I God, I wish I hadknown this when I had gone
through all that, right?
Or even when my kids wereyoung, and you know, I was
feeling awful every day.
And if I had known this, Icould have been so much more

(12:07):
present.
So much of a better mom.

Mel (12:10):
Well, that's even what I'm thinking about because there are
just that those certain momentsthat I I noticed leading up to,
you know, that time and and allthat kind of stuff that I just
like I know that it's gonna belike a hot button for me.
So it's like I try not to evenplan events or just family

(12:31):
things, you know, even birthdaysor whatever, I'll try and push
it out a few days or whatever itis because I just kind of know
that I'm not gonna be in a greatmood.
Mood is a really big thing forme.
And I I don't want to be thatmum that snaps at my kids or I'm
so wiped out that I'm likepractically falling asleep while
they're talking to me.

(12:52):
Like I don't want to be likethat.
And so I just it's funnybecause I think we're so busy as
women, and a lot of what I dois helping with restoring some
balance and taking things offthe plate, simplifying.
That's a lot of what I do.
But it's funny how even for me,I I'm still quite busy overall.

(13:14):
And you can put thoseexhaustion and and all those
feelings down to what you'redoing rather than what's going
on internally.
And that I've got to say, a fewmonths ago, I ended up in
hospital because my body wasscreaming at me that something
wasn't right.
But I just thought, well, I'vegot a newborn, I'm running a

(13:37):
business, got three other kids,I've I'm doing everything,
right?
And I just thought it wasbecause I was busy, but my body
was screaming at me to the pointwhere I manually died.
Like it was, it was bad.
I mean, it was fixable, and apart a big part of it was my
iron was down to like three.
So it was bad, and there was anumber of things, but it was

(14:00):
fixable.
So I got on top of it.
But even the doctors were like,you can't leave this hospital
until this is sorted because youmight not wake up tomorrow.
It was bad.
And I think as women,particularly high-achieving
women, I see it's that mentalityof, I'll deal with myself
later.
I've got to worry abouteveryone else, I've got to deal
with everything else.

(14:20):
But before you realize you arein your 30s, 40s, 50s, and you
still haven't even taken asecond to look at you, and your
body, all these years, have beenscreaming at you.
And particularly when it comesto hormones with what you're
saying, especially if it'salways been that way since you
were a teenager and you justexpect that you're going to

(14:41):
experience a bit of pain everymonth, you're gonna be a bit
moody every month, and that'sjust normal, especially with the
way the world paints thingstoo, to hear that there is a
different way to live that isn'tgoing to cost you all your
money and all your health andall your, you know, just that

(15:02):
it's just simple, that it justworks with it.
I just think that is soexciting and I need to.

Amy (15:10):
Yeah.
Um, I have lots of resources.
So I have a YouTube channel.
Uh, I talk about this on mypodcast.
I actually did uh a YouTubevideo, I think last year, around
Halloween, where my kids callme Monster Mom sometimes if I
get a little angry.
And so my video is about, youknow, is your monster mom
present year round?
Not just during Halloween.

(15:32):
Yeah, I can I'm sure thatrelates to many moms out there.
So feel free to check out myYouTube channel.
It's called The Wealth ofWellness, which is my business.
Business is the same.
So thewealth of Wellness.com,and I'll I'll give you that link
so you can put it in the shownotes.
Um, but yeah, I talk about thison my podcast.
I've had some relationshipcoaches on, so we talk about how

(15:54):
it affects your relationship.
I had a business coach.

Mel (15:56):
Okay.

Amy (15:57):
So we talk about how to run your business differently.
Awesome.
Uh in different weeks.
So yeah.

Mel (16:03):
Yeah.
Oh, that is so good.
We want the women out there toconnect with you.
So I'll make sure that all thelinks are in the notes.
They're ready to go so they canfind you, maybe even, yeah, be
coached by you all the waythrough to listening to your
podcast and that, which I'm soexcited to binge, honestly.
Like, I feel like I really needthis.

(16:25):
You'll get a good laugh forsure.
Oh, good, good, good.
I I mean, I'm always laughingon my show, but there's not
really a lot of funny stuffhappening.
I just laugh.
So I'm sure people are laughingat me, going, Oh, what a silly
girl.
But anyway, is there anythingelse that you would like people

(16:45):
to be aware of?

Amy (16:47):
I do have a free guide.
Yeah.
It's called Start Living a LifeWithout PMS.
And it's a very briefintroduction to both the 24-hour
clock and the monthly clock.
So it goes through what thefour phases are and it gives you
some simple tips that you cantry for each colour.

Mel (17:08):
Great.
Awesome.
Well, the link will be theretoo, and I'm definitely gonna
grab that and I'll be on youremail list.
I want to learn more.
That sounds so good.
I'm just so glad that youreached out to be on the show
because I did have quite anumber of people reach out, but
going through your pages throughthreads and Instagram and that,

(17:32):
it's just what you're doing isso needed.
It's empowering for women tohave the knowledge to be able to
do something about it.
But I love that you've steppedinto something that can be
uncomfortable for a lot ofpeople.
Yes.
And it can be reallychallenging.
And no doubt our malecounterparts probably just don't

(17:54):
understand a lot of it.
But even they can learn so muchfrom this about their wives and
their partners and all of that.
And I just I think if we canmake this conversation normal,
then our sons are also going tobe able to relate to their
girlfriends and wives and all ofthat in the future.
They're going to be betterpartners and be able to

(18:18):
understand and just go, okay, Iknow when to speak up.
I know when to let it go.
I know when to just do what Ineed to.
So as much as it's invaluablefor us women and for our
daughters and that, it's soimportant for our sons to learn
and be the next generation thatis inclusive of all of this and

(18:40):
understanding.

Amy (18:41):
Yeah, that's my goal.
That is my mission to justteach everybody and give them
awareness.
Because I have three boys, so Ihave four men in the house.

Mel (18:52):
I got three boys, but they're quite they're quite
young still, and I've got adaughter as well.
But yeah, it's um it I'm alwaysthinking about ways to make
things just normal for them.
Because I I gotta say, a lot ofthe males in in my family and
and the males that I've grown upwith and that, it was like, no,

(19:12):
no, no, no, no.
Like it you do not talk about,you go to your mother for that,
you don't, you know, whatever itis.
Um, and I just think it's justit's how we are.
It's it's how we're created,it's our biology, and we
shouldn't be made to feelashamed or to be kept in the
dark about it.
I think for me included, Ididn't really understand cycles

(19:37):
or how any of it worked reallyuntil I was probably even
pregnant with my second, itprobably wasn't even my first,
just understanding like how itworks because it's almost like,
no, don't go there, don't thinkabout it.
It's almost shameful in someways to understand how our body
works.

(19:57):
And I just think that's wrong,blood out.
I think it's wrong.
I think we should be able tocomfortably talk about it and
try and learn and understandwithout the shame, without
feeling like we're doingsomething wrong or talking about
something we shouldn't betalking about, and just going,
well, I'm trying to understandmyself better, but also to be
the role model for my kids sothey can understand better and

(20:20):
not feel the shame that I didgrowing up.
So anyway, I've kind ofhijacked a lot of what That's
okay.

Amy (20:29):
This is um it's a topic that needs to be talked about.
You are right.

Mel (20:33):
It really is.
It really is.
Well, I mean, we are getting tothe end of it, but is there
anything else that you wouldlove the listeners to know about
you, about the cycles, aboutanything before we wrap up?

Amy (20:47):
No, it's a it's still a work in progress for me too,
even though I've been doing thisfor five years.
But like I said, now I know ifI have a month with more
symptoms, I know why.
I can backtrack and say, ohyeah, I went to this party and
that party and this food andthat food.
So I know how to I know why I'mhaving the symptoms, I know how
to fix them, and I know it'sokay to have a mozzarella steak

(21:07):
or ice cream once in a while,like with my kids.
And it's not gonna live life.
Be yeah, you gotta live.
So, you know, it's it's alearning process every day.

Mel (21:17):
Yeah, well, that's it.
And a lot of the time,especially this season of of our
lives and our motherhood andeverything, it really is just
taking it one day at a time andgiving ourselves grace for the
areas where we might fall shorta bit.
And that's okay.

Amy (21:33):
Yes, and you will, yeah, you will fall short, you will
have mistakes.
It it's it's there.

Mel (21:38):
There's no right or wrong either.
You just yeah, pick yourself upand carry on another day.
That's right.
That's so good.
Well, thank you so much, Amy,for coming and sharing all of
this and for creating theawareness that is really needed
around this topic and forenlightening me.
So thank you so much.

Amy (21:57):
You're welcome, and thank you for having me.
Um, thank you.
Want to help all the women feelbetter.

Mel (22:03):
Yeah, well, I'm sure you did.
I'm sure by creating thisawareness today you've even just
helped one woman out there,then job done.
So thank you so much, Amy.
Thank you.
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