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Mel (00:18):
Welcome to Beyond Organised
, the podcast that helps you
simplify your life and amplifyyour purpose.
I'm Mel Schenker, life coach,speaker, founder of She's
Organised, but, more importantly, a wife and mum of four little
kids.
If you've ever felt overwhelmed, like you're constantly
juggling everything but neverquite catching up, this is the
place for you.
Here we go beyond just thetidying up and creating systems.
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We're talking about real lifestrategies that bring order to
your life, but also we talkabout the things beyond the
organising, the things thatreally matter, like your
parenting relationships and somuch more.
So grab your coffee and let'sdive in.
Welcome to another episode ofBeyond Organised.
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I have the lovely CaitlinCipriano here, so to give you a
quick rundown on who Caitlin isshe is a certified nutritionist,
mum of two and founder ofWholesome Huntress Nutrition.
She's based in Vermont.
She supports women throughpreconception, pregnancy and
postpartum with simple,personalised nutrition coaching
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and resources.
She holds a master's innutrition and human performance
and offers weekly meal plans andprenatal nutrition guide and
one on one support to help momsfeel confident, fueled and cared
for.
Her own pregnancy journeysparked her passion for
perinatal health and now she'son a mission to make nutrition
simple, sustainable andsupportive for every season of
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motherhood.
Caitlin is also the co-host ofthe Vibrantly you podcast, where
she shares honest conversationsaround wellness and motherhood.
Welcome, caitlin, to the show,
Cailtin (01:56):
Thank you so much, Mel.
I'm really excited to chat withyou today.
Mel (02:00):
It's so nice to have you
here.
I love that we're coming from abit of a different angle here,
because we focused a lot aroundorganising and all this stuff,
so it's nice to have you come inand help the audience in a
different area of life.
Cailtin (02:17):
Absolutely, and I think
it can be also a hard area to
feel on top of in the stage ofmotherhood, especially
Definitely, I agree.
Mel (02:30):
So what inspired you to get
into the whole nutrition field?
Cailtin (02:36):
Sure, so I didn't
always specialize in the
perinatal area of wellness.
My initial background wasdefinitely more of a generalist.
I worked actually initiallywith a lot of athletes and then,
after having my first kiddo, myson which was right around 2020
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when COVID hit I just startedreally seeing a lot of like gaps
in this area and, of course,like I was more interested, too,
in learning things to helpsupport myself.
But in chatting with otherfriends and seeing things, of
course, online, I was just likethere is a lot of information
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missing that would be so helpfulfor so many people and why are
we not having conversationsaround a lot of these things?
And so I went and got mycertification specifically in
perinatal nutrition, and Ireally wanted to be able to help
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more moms connect the dots andreally make nutrition feel
doable for themselves.
I love that.
Mel (03:54):
It can be almost like an
afterthought for a lot of moms,
because we're so busy with ourbabies and even toddlers and
that even as time goes on we'reso busy looking after everyone
else and before we realize it,you know we've got our own
health issues and our ownexhaustion that we have to deal
with even right from thebeginning, and I think what
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you're doing is very much neededbut neglected in what a lot of
mums do.
So that's really cool.
So how does your process work?
What do you do to help mums?
Cailtin (04:31):
Sure, a lot of my
clients are coming at various
stages.
Some of them are trying toconceive, maybe they've been
trying for a little bit andthey're not wanting to dive
right into, maybe, a traditionalmedicine approach.
And so we're really looking atwhat is going on, like how can
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we get to the root cause ofthings?
Or maybe they are having Idon't want to say like
complications, but maybe they'rehaving a really they're having
a tough pregnancy.
They're dealing with a lot of,you know, nausea, aversions.
They're just really, you know,having a hard time eating
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nutritious foods, which ispretty you know common, it's
hard enough.
It's hard enough.
Who can take that like capacityoff a little bit and get them
into more of a routine againthat they were used to doing
before they got pregnant?
Um, or I'm seeing momspostpartum that, like you said,
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they're just exhausted.
They're wondering why am Ifeeling this much fatigue?
And they just really want somesupport, kind of coming back
into their bodies again.
So taking where their startingpoint is and listening to what
are they struggling with, whatare their goals, what pieces are
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really important to them ontheir journey, and so I'm
blending a evidence-basedknowledge alongside of I like to
take a more holistic approach,so I'm really looking at them as
a full human.
Yeah, that's cool, so I'm reallylooking at them as a full human
and we're not just talkingabout food, but we're also
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talking about their sleep andtheir stress and so that we can
really help them feel morenourished and have better energy
and all of those things so theycan really give back better to
their kiddos and their familiesand everything like that.
Typically, I do like to startoff with focusing on blood sugar
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balance a lot, because I findthis to be a really common theme
, and then also making suredigestion is good.
Are there any missing gaps inwhat they're currently doing?
And then we kind of build somesustainable systems from there.
Get them some good ideas thatwork for both them and their
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families.
We don't need to make multiplemeals over here, but that is a
big part is like shifting awayfrom feeling like you have to do
it all or like be perfect withyour eating, but just really
give them like good, real lifestrategies so that they're not
feeling overwhelmed.
Mel (07:31):
Yeah, I love that.
I love the whole holisticapproach to it all.
But also, I guess any change inthe right direction is better
than none at all.
So I like how you're sayingthat you know it doesn't have to
be perfect, they don't have tofollow a very strict way of
doing everything, it's justmaking those changes that work.
Cailtin (07:53):
Absolutely, and I think
mindset challenges are what end
up holding people back the mostand there's, like in the
nutrition and wellness space ingeneral, just this really huge
belief of all or nothing mindsetthat if you're not doing things
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perfectly or how someone'srecommended them to you, that
you failed.
Mel (08:19):
Yeah, somehow and then we
carry a lot of start again
tomorrow.
Cailtin (08:23):
Yeah, all the time,
absolutely.
And then I think we dointernalize a lot of guilt
around that and kind of enter acircle of trying something for
three or four weeks doing reallywell, and then, my goodness,
like we had an off day orwhatever, and we kind of like
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re-enter that circle.
So I try to help people shiftaway from that and really offer
themselves grace and alsocuriosity about themselves and
learning how to be moreintuitive so that they're not
continuing to stay stuck in thatloop, in that pattern.
Mel (09:07):
I love that and you're
using so many words from being
stuck and mindset and stuff thatI do use when it comes to
organizing too, so it fits well.
So, with the people that arecoming to you, what are you sort
of finding is the most commonchallenge that you're coming
across?
Cailtin (09:25):
I think, outside of
those like mindset obstacles
that we just discussed a lot of,it is um, the like fatigue,
like the energy levels is reallytough, um, and then also like
time.
Time is always a bit like I'mnot feeling like you have the
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time to show up for yourselfbecause you are giving out so
much to again your, your kids,your family, your job, everyone
else but you yeah, everyone elsebut you and it's just that they
feel really stretched thin andthey often don't feel like they
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have the capacity to really planthings out, I think, in a way
that does have some strategy, away that does have some strategy
, but that also allows them tostill enjoy what they want to
enjoy too.
Food is not meant to be thislike rigid thing.
There does need to be this likeenjoyment piece to it as well,
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and so I think it just ends upbeing overwhelming, because
there's so much information outthere and they don't know what
to trust, what's going to bebest for themselves.
Mel (10:46):
Yeah, that's so good.
And even just hearing you speakon a few things I'm thinking,
oh yeah, I could probably useyou with a few things.
Yeah, but I've got to say it'spretty funny because over the
last few months I've replicatedthis salad from my local
restaurant that I absolutelylove this lamb salad and I've
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replicated it and I've eaten it.
It's roast lamb and everything.
I spent way too much money onlamb lately, but I have had it
so many times for lunch over thelast four months maybe, and I
even said back at the start Icould eat this every day for the
rest of my life and months downthe track I'm still eating it.
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My husband's like I'm done, I'mover it, I can't eat anymore.
But I think it's nice when youcan find some food or even
fitness or you know some kind ofthing that you actually end up
enjoying and you can do it.
And there's nothing wrong ifyou have the same type of lunch
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every day.
If you're that kind of person,I'm quite happy to have the same
thing every day, but stillhaving that variety and stuff
which, of course, you would gothrough as a nutritionist.
But having that lamb salad isstill better than me going out
and getting McDonald's or justhaving toast or something you
know.
So you find what you like.
Cailtin (12:12):
Absolutely, and I
encourage people to keep things
simple and when you do findthose things that you really do
like and enjoy, you can keeprolling with that.
There's nothing wrong there andthen you can find other ways in
your meals to interject.
Mel (12:28):
Yeah, incorporate other
things yeah.
Cailtin (12:30):
So that's okay.
Mel (12:32):
Yeah, oh, that's so cool.
So what do you think is sort ofthe main thing that holds moms
in particular, back from seekingthe help or making the change
Like?
Cailtin (12:46):
what do you think is
sort of the main thing holding
them back?
I think that, especially withmoms, I think it's really hard
to ask for help to begin withwith, to even like come to that
conclusion that like, okay, I'mreally am like having a hard
time with whatever theparticular thing is, and then,
once they've actually maybe cometo that awareness, I think it's
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still even hard to admit that,okay, I really do need some like
support and guidance.
Here, I think, is getting overthat hump of admitting that I
need help honestly because we'restubborn and think that we
should know.
Mel (13:24):
No, and I see it all the
time too.
It's humbling.
It is humbling because,particularly in this day and age
with social media andeverything like that, we see all
these other mums that seem tohave it all together.
And for you in your space, youprobably see all the mums that
have their diet in check andtheir fitness regime in check
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and they're balancing newbornbabies or whatever perfectly,
and pregnancies well, and all ofthat.
And so it would be hard foryour audience with that and for
me with my audience, with theorganizing and stuff.
And you just see all thesePinterest perfect pantries and
then you think where am I goingwrong?
It's it's hard because I feellike it doesn't matter what area
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of life you're looking at.
We're susceptible to thatcomparison now and it really is
the thief of joy and it can bereally hard and it doesn't
matter whether you're looking atfood or timetable.
Cailtin (14:24):
You're comparing and
it's hard.
Yeah, I think that comparisonpiece is really challenging too.
It's a bad culture in thepostpartum space.
It's also really challenging tosee that a lot Kind of like you
said, being other moms.
Why can't I be like that?
And I was not like that.
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I had lunges, especially in thepostpartum timeframe, and then
you throw hormones on top of it.
Yeah, it's really not easy, andI think that maybe somewhere
along the lines, with morepeople sharing those positive
experiences and not enough ofthese are some things that could
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happen to you along yourjourney during pregnancy and
postpartum.
Like this isn't meant to fear,monger you or, to like, take joy
out of your experience, keep itreal.
This isn't meant to fearmongeryou or to take joy out of your
experience, but these are thingsthat you could expect happening
and I think that that wouldreally help a lot of moms just
feel seen and heard when thosechallenges do come up.
Mel (15:30):
Yeah, and that's it.
And I don't know about you withyour space, but I'm sure that
every day it's still makingthose choices and finding that
balance in even what you're anexpert in, and I know that's the
same for me too.
I don't want people thinkingthat a lot of us that are
experts in what we do don't havethe same struggles anymore.
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We are still making choices inthat, but we might have set
things up to be a little biteasier for us now, or we don't
rely on motivation so muchbecause we've got the habits and
the good things in place, allthese different things.
There are ways that it canbecome a bit more natural in
some ways, even if it's alearned skill.
And yeah, I just want toencourage people that just
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because we're good at what we dodoesn't mean that we don't have
to work on it too Absolutely.
Cailtin (16:25):
I think it's always a
work in progress and taking it
like one day at a time, but,like you said, once you do have
that foundation and those sortof systems in place that you've
identified work best for you, itdoes make it so much easier
that, like you said, you're notrelying on the motivation to get
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it done.
Mel (16:47):
Yeah, well, let's see and
look, both of us, we've got
little kids and all of that, sowe're still just working it out
one day at a time.
Yeah, that's great that.
So we're still just working itout one day at a time.
So if someone listening, wantsto get a hold of you, wants to
follow you, wants to get yourhelp, where can they go?
Where can they find?
Cailtin (17:06):
you?
Yeah, absolutely so.
I'm on Instagram at WholesomeHuntress Nutrition.
You can follow me there.
You can check out my website aswell.
It's alsowholesomehuntressnutritioncom
and I do have some differentguides.
If you're just looking to kindof dip your toe in, get some
recipe ideas and learn, I dohave a few one-on-one coaching
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spaces available currently atthis time.
So if someone does have likequestions or want to connect,
you know they can either DM meon Instagram to chat or shoot me
an email, which is alsowholesomehuntress at gmailcom.
Mel (17:44):
Great.
Well, I'll make sure all ofthat information is in the
description to make it nice andeasy for everyone listening.
But I have really enjoyedgetting to know you and listen
to what you do.
I haven't come across a lot ofpeople that are in your space
and I think it's very, very muchneeded, so I certainly
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encourage everyone listening tocheck Caitlin out and to go
there.
But thank you so much forcoming on and joining us today.
Cailtin (18:13):
Yeah, absolutely I had
a great time, though.
Thank you, you're very welcome.
Mel (18:16):
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