June 4, 2025 • 17 mins
Ever wonder how to stay relevant in a rapidly evolving industry where connecting with younger clients is crucial? In our latest episode, we tackle the language barrier head-on with a fun (and slightly humbling) exploration of current Gen Z slang. From "ratioed" posts to having a "Menty B," these linguistic insights might just save you from awkward miscommunications with your next twenty-something clients.
The gear corner returns with a brilliant submission from listener Kevin Nichols - portable ramps that solve a problem every working DJ faces: navigating equipment over curbs. For just $39 on Amazon, these clip-together ramps could be the upgrade your setup process desperately needs. We discuss how this simple solution addresses the very real physical demands of our profession, especially when hauling heavy speakers and lighting equipment.
We couldn't ignore the elephant in the entertainment room - the spectacular failure of this year's American Music Awards. With zero album of the year nominees bothering to show up and performances relegated to aging stars, we examine whether this marks the beginning of the end for traditional award shows. This conversation opens up broader questions about how entertainment formats evolve (or die) in the digital age, with valuable takeaways for anyone marketing entertainment services.
The episode concludes with tactical business advice on handling client requests for direct contact with musicians you've booked for their events. We share strategies for maintaining professional boundaries while ensuring client satisfaction, plus offer practical insights about which solo musicians actually work for different parts of events versus which create a disappointing atmosphere. These real-world tips come from our combined decades of experience managing expectations and delivering exceptional events.
Whether you're a seasoned pro or building your DJ business, this episode delivers actionable insights to help you communicate better, work smarter, and make more informed recommendations to your clients. Subscribe now and join our community of forward-thinking entertainment professionals!
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to Beyond the DJ Booth podcast.
I'm one of your co-hosts.
Brian B and this is Joe Bon ishere.
Did we just like speed throughto fall?
What is happening?
The weather is trash today, butI mean it's cold.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I know why.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's been like that way for like all weekend
apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I wasn't here, but no , no, no, no, no, no.
Tara said it was Somebody liedto you.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Tara said it was like in the 60s.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, just Monday, Memorial Day and yesterday and
today, or garbage, maybe she.
No, no, thursday, Friday,saturday were absolutely
gorgeous, like low 80s.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Maybe it's because I've been in Florida for so long
and it's just been so hot sohot Tara's been cooped up with
that baby of yours.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's not even a baby anymore, full-blown toddler.
What's up?
Everybody welcome back, yeahman to your favorite podcast for
private event djs what's?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
going on well.
Last time I saw you was inwilmington at the whippa event
remember?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
yeah, we did do the whippa event together that was
fun networking it up.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, saw our friend uh beth chapman.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
we did see beth chapman, beth chapman's awesome,
great presentation.
What was it?
It was about millennials, noselling to.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Gen Z, gen Z, that's right.
So that's kind of what I wantedto open with today.
Okay, she did this as anicebreaker.
I thought I would continue on.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And I'm going to give you some Gen Z slang.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You're forgetting my sons are like 17 and 20.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, so you should get these.
I think so.
That's my point.
I hope so, but we'll see howwell you do on this.
Okay, First one ratioed Nah.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't know this one .
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Take a guess.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's like a slang word for Gen Z.
What would you guess that?
You're half cool, half nerd.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's when a post gets way more replies than likes
usually means it flops.
So an example would be hetweeted that and got ratioed
hard.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't know that one , saquon, you know that?
Nah, I've never heard that one,okay.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, All right.
How about the second one here,Gnar?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's like no it's like a negative or no, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, you got that one, all right.
No, I think, yeah, you got thatone, all right, you're one for
two.
It's an exaggerated dramatic.
No, yeah, used ironically tomock drama.
Like he said, he's texting hisex again nar nar, okay, menti b
mental block.
I have no idea.
Close yeah close.
It's a mental breakdown, okayyeah I had a little menti b
after I saw my email inbox.
(02:42):
That's a a good one.
I might use that.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
A little minty bee.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Two more here.
How about this one?
A soft block?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Is it in the cock block family or no?
I?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
don't think so.
It's not a softie.
Any idea?
No, you remove someone as afollower by blocking or
unblocking.
No drama, just distance.
I didn't want to unfollow orunblocking.
No drama, just distance.
I didn't want to unfollow, so Ijust soft blocked her, muted
them.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Nice, I've definitely done that.
You think that's worse?
Yeah, alright, last one, rentryman, I don't know these.
You're off, I am, I knew theones that she gave, so maybe her
list is out of date.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It probably is, yeah.
These are freshies, some sortof re-entry, I don't know.
Yeah, it's the mentaladjustment after a vacation, or
a long break.
So, first Monday back at workand I'm deep in re-entry.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Deep in re-entry.
Okay, so there we go.
Now you can be cool.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, now I'm hip, so you got to know these.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I knew all of Beth's but I think her list was out of
date.
These are like the newest ofthe Gen Z terms.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So we've been doing that gear segment for a while.
Yes, and we actually hadsomeone submit one to us, yeah,
we did, and it was gold.
Yeah, so this is from KevinNichols.
What's up, kevin Nichols?
He's in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I believe it's either South Carolina or Georgia.
Okay, I think it's Georgia.
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Georgia.
So we're going to play thisvideo of what he sent to us and
then we can talk about it herein a second.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
All right, joe and Brian, here you go.
Here's another equipment findfor Brian's little segment.
Got these on Amazon.
They clip together like thisand you put it up against a
sidewalk and now you have alittle ramp to get your stuff up
the sidewalk without having tofind the handicap ramp $39 on
Amazon, go get it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So these are basically to help you get in and
out of your trailer, I believe,or really just to get up a curb
when you're rolling your gear,that's true, yeah, solid point.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Think about it from a standpoint.
If they don't have a handicapramp or they don't have an
access ramp at all, yeah, andyou kind of pull up, you drop
your trailer door down, you dropyour you know like the ramp out
of the back of my bed, yeah,and you don't want to sit there
and pop the curb every times.
Yeah, these things go right up.
Do you have them?
I don't know, I'd never seenthem.
(05:01):
He.
And then he just hangs them onthe wall of his trailer.
When he needs them, he popsthem out.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
That's pretty cool.
I think he said they were $39.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
For the pair?
I believe so.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So we'll put the link for this on our Amazon card.
I'll let you do it, becauseyou're kind of the gear corner
guy.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, I will put these on there and I think we
should order a set, becausewe've got the evolved 90s.
Now the sub part are on theheathers.
They're heavy, yeah, and butthey're on casters right, so
those are rolling.
Yeah, we've got both of ourpop-up totems now.
Yeah, on the rock and roller,they stay on the rock and roller
(05:38):
.
We've got a small case ofmovers.
Those roll in and then even allthe small stuff.
We bring the pop-up totem cartback and do one more load, but
we basically roll everything in.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Now there's no hand carrying anything so I mean
having these little ramps wouldbe premium I was trying to think
if it would be something, sinceI'm on the road so much yeah
yeah, it probably would makesense, but if I was local those
do look solid.
Appreciate it, kevin.
Thanks for listening to.
Yeah, everybody wants to.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Any, we're happy to take whatever ones you guys are
using right, because Brian'sAmazon bill is freaking extra, I
had to cut it off.
I had to cut it off this month.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's your turn, tara.
Shut him down, shut me down.
I do have one that I'm holdingoff on, though, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
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Speaker 1 (06:50):
I had one more thing I was going to throw to you.
I just saw it on.
I think it was Sunday.
Oh no, it was Monday, the firstof the award show season.
Did you see it, amas?
Have you heard about this shit?
I think, but maybe fill therest well they.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They've canceled the last two years okay so this is
their re-entry this is theirre-entry into the market and the
numbers and the people thatshowed up.
There were 10 album of the yearnominees.
Guess how many showed up?
One, zero, oh zero.
Then I was seeing all thisstuff about blake shelton
performing and gwen spottie andtaylor swift.
Did you hear about that whole?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
thing she didn't show up.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
yeah, yeah, she didn't show up either.
They played videos of thepeople performing.
They weren't even up on thestage.
Did you see any of the show?
No, I didn't even know.
It was on until it was halfover.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, the performers.
They had no, so they had JanetJackson.
Oh, j-lo did it too.
I didn't see her performance,but I heard it was a little
pitchy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
She's not a good singer.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
She's beautiful, but they had Janet, yeah, and she's
59 years old now.
Yes, right.
So I'm like, if you're tryingto market to the younger
generation just seemed oddchoices.
I mean, she only did All Foryou and Someone To Call my Lover
, which I thought those aregreat.
I mean I love those trackspersonally, but they're not like
her iconic tracks that shewould go out with.
She also looked solid for 59.
(08:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I was like, wow, I did see the clip of that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And then they had Gloria Estefan.
She's 79.
79.
How old is she really?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I think she is that, look that up 76.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I wrote it down actually in one of these and
then who.
And then the last one was RodStewart.
Yeah, gloria Estefan is 67.
Oh, I thought she was older.
Okay, sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Gloria, and then Rod Stewart.
Oh, he's definitely in his 70s,80.
God damn, and he wasn't evensinging.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He was so up probably no.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
here's the thing, though.
Here's what you're forgetting.
You know where it was.
I don't know Las Vegas.
So they got Janet and Rod onresidency to come down the
street and do a couple tracksfrom their show, promote their
show Blase Blas.
I mean it was like a throwbackshow.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I should have told my mom it was on and they closed
with Rod and I'm just like, whywould you close?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
with him.
That was the closer Were youwatching this, or are you?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
getting a recap Like half watching, half watching, so
like I would watch it?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
How did you even know it was on?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Because Tara was watching it initially and then I
, after I put Annie down, I waslike hey, let's watch the
basketball game.
And she was watching this.
I was like what is this?
Is this a ward show?
It was AMA, so I was goingbetween the game and that, you
know, the was like half full andit was like no celebrities.
They kept showing these randompeople in the crowd.
I'm just like I'm telling youman it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So you think it's dead?
I do.
There's no way that they comeback again.
It was a dick clark productionback in the day.
It was a.
It was a big deal, it was right.
I mean, michael jackson wouldbe on there, lionel, and even
even up into the 2000s it was apretty big deal.
But I mean, if you can't getanybody to show up, and
especially the biggest livingpop star in the world to show up
(09:41):
, to accept whatever she goteverything was video response
for the winners there's no waythat they recover from that.
No way.
I I genuinely believe that thatwill be the last year we see
the amas and is this the startor?
it just goes to like an onlineonly thing and then you know
they tweet out who won.
I don't think there will be abroadcast of that magnitude.
I mean, think about how manymillions of dollars that
(10:03):
production costs, whatevernetwork put it on is it the
beginning of the end for thesekind of shows?
I don't know about that.
I think it's the beginning ofthe end for anybody marginal.
I think.
The grammys live forever,oscars live forever, but a lot
of this other stuff, I think, aswell, there's what the mtv
music awards, I think that willeventually fade away because
that's not even a real networkanymore even things like the
(10:24):
golden globes, yeah, the tonysor whatever they do for broadway
.
All that stuff is just somarginally attended and viewed
that it's going to go justdigital only.
I'm not so sure they'll get ridof the award, but they'll get
rid of doing a broadcast of thatmagnitude.
The amount of money that lostthose networks and just bad
press and it's just a bad lookman.
(10:44):
They're dog shit.
Yeah, it'll probably like go toNetflix or something like that,
something like that, or justagain like they literally just
notify the winners, maybe getsome sort of response and tweet
out so-and-so won this award.
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All right back to the show.
Before Joe starts yelling inhis extra thick North Carolina
accent about how back in his day, djs used CDs and still had to
walk uphill both ways to a gig.
What's the question?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, let's do a question.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
This has got emailed into us.
This is fresh, this just camein.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Fresh.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
From one of our DJC mentoring alums here Vincent
Orlando Shout out Where's heagain.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Do you remember?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It would make sense he's in Florida I wish, I wish,
but it would make sense.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's in Florida.
I wish, I wish, but I don't.
I think that's actually hisname.
Okay, yeah, go ahead.
What do you guys do when aclient is persistent on asking
for the social media slashcontact for live musicians they
booked through you Like aviolinist for cocktail hour, sax
player for reception, drummerfor reception, et cetera, et
cetera?
I don't do this, man, so I'mhoping you can give a little bit
of insight into it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The expectations are set on the initial call.
Yeah, I mean, you're the kingof doing that, yeah.
So I tell them listen, ourmusicians.
They do what they do.
They are just performers.
I handle all the administration, all of the Making sure they're
there.
Yeah, they're just hired toperform and that's how we keep
the rate affordable.
We don't have them do planningcalls.
(12:59):
It's all done by the officein-house.
So the day of, I'm happy to givea phone number you know, but
it's not given out until likeliterally the day before, and
it's given to the planner.
That's kind of how we handle it, I mean, and they don't need to
be tagged and blah blah, blahblah Just tag my company.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
They're subcontracted by me.
I'm taking care of them, makingsure they have all their gear,
making sure they're on time,they're dressed appropriately,
Absolutely yeah, I would do thesame thing.
You don't need to talk to them.
You've entrusted us, my company, to provide the entertainment
for this event and I assure youthat these people are top notch.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
If I've got them working under my brand and I'm
trying to think of why theywould even want to reach out
outside of.
Yeah, I mean they alreadybooked.
Yeah, it says it here.
So is it just like song lists?
Or just to make sure they're areal human?
I don't know, but again, Ithink it's.
It's set up at the expectationearly on.
This is how we keep the rateaffordable, is to handle all
this in the house, and this isjust our protocol.
(13:57):
I have had a few times wherethey wanted to talk to them
directly.
Maybe it was because theywanted a special edit of
something or could they learnsomething, and I tell them hey,
if they need to learn anythingagain, that needs to go through
us because there may be a costinvolved.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Or maybe they can't do it, yeah, and then the DJ has
to play the recessidesmaids andgroomsmen, even the
processional, but like theywanted, sign, sealed, delivered,
or this will be an everlastinglove, the recorded version, and
we had to play that as theirafter their pronounced husband
(14:29):
and wife.
You know what I mean.
So sometimes it's just notsomething you can learn or it's
not gonna hit the same as like apop song.
You know, a lot of people areleaving now to a popular song,
even if it was popular 40 yearsago or whatever.
It just hits different.
I think.
What are your thoughts?
Like Saquon and I have seenthis the last two weekends A lot
of these musicians, especiallylike a violinist or a harpist,
(14:51):
they must have a two-hourminimum and so they basically
make the couple hire them notonly for the ceremony but also
for the cocktail hour.
It just is the most boringcocktail hour.
It's fine for the ceremony man.
We also noticed that a violinby itself is kind of shitty.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Doo-doo, doo-doo.
Yeah, not going to work.
It's so sad.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And then she proceeded over to the cocktail
hour and just sat there.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And was she mic'd at all?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, oh, it's even worse, just like standing in the
corner and I was like man.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I was like listen, I'm like dude, it sounds
miserable.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It just sounded yeah, like we were, like yeah, we
were like you know in tears atthe end of cocktail hour and you
could almost feel this likerefreshing breath of air when
the ballroom doors opened, ofair when the guests when the
ballroom doors open and they leteverybody you know the the the
guests in and we're playingright Um, jack Johnson or Bob
Marley or whatever, and youcould almost feel them be like
(15:49):
okay now.
Now this feels like a party,right, man, I don't know, do you
feel the same?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I think there's certain ones that you can get
away with it with, like as anexample anytime we book a
guitarist a single guitaristyeah, they have the ability to
sound chill for ceremony andthen ramp it up for cocktail
Because they're I wouldn't saythey're always playing
instrumental for ceremony butit's a little bit more somber.
Yeah, or serious.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, I would say, with a guitar they can, and they
can loop.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, they can loop and do a bunch of other things.
Okay, so like those ones workIf it's a single musician with
strings like violin cello, evena sax player, like it just
sounds thin.
Yeah, and I tell a couple ofthis, like you know, usually the
good news is they book throughus for a lot of the musician
stuff, right, so they don't gooutside of that, right.
But I do tell them like, listen, if you're going to do strings,
(16:34):
you got to have a quartet,right, because it just will
sound fuller.
Yeah, and I have seen acocktail hour where it is
jamming because they're playinglike taylor swift or whatever
the case may be, but it soundsfull right, if it's one.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
If it's one, it's wimpy.
Okay, super wimpy, just makingsure I'm not crazy.
That's all I got.
That's all I got.
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Welcome to Beyond the DJ Booth podcast.
I'm one of your co-hosts.
Brian B and this is Joe Bon ishere.
Did we just like speed throughto fall?
What is happening?
The weather is trash today, butI mean it's cold.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I know why.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's been like that way for like all weekend
apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I wasn't here, but no , no, no, no, no, no.
Tara said it was Somebody liedto you.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Tara said it was like in the 60s.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
No, just Monday, Memorial Day and yesterday and
today, or garbage, maybe she.
No, no, thursday, Friday,saturday were absolutely
gorgeous, like low 80s.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Maybe it's because I've been in Florida for so long
and it's just been so hot sohot Tara's been cooped up with
that baby of yours.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's not even a baby anymore, full-blown toddler.
What's up?
Everybody welcome back, yeahman to your favorite podcast for
private event djs what's?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
going on well.
Last time I saw you was inwilmington at the whippa event
remember?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
yeah, we did do the whippa event together that was
fun networking it up.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, saw our friend uh beth chapman.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
we did see beth chapman, beth chapman's awesome,
great presentation.
What was it?
It was about millennials, noselling to.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Gen Z, gen Z, that's right.
So that's kind of what I wantedto open with today.
Okay, she did this as anicebreaker.
I thought I would continue on.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And I'm going to give you some Gen Z slang.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You're forgetting my sons are like 17 and 20.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, so you should get these.
I think so.
That's my point.
I hope so, but we'll see howwell you do on this.
Okay, First one ratioed Nah.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't know this one .
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Take a guess.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's like a slang word for Gen Z.
What would you guess that?
You're half cool, half nerd.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's when a post gets way more replies than likes
usually means it flops.
So an example would be hetweeted that and got ratioed
hard.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't know that one , saquon, you know that?
Nah, I've never heard that one,okay.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, All right.
How about the second one here,Gnar?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's like no it's like a negative or no, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, you got that one, all right.
No, I think, yeah, you got thatone, all right, you're one for
two.
It's an exaggerated dramatic.
No, yeah, used ironically tomock drama.
Like he said, he's texting hisex again nar nar, okay, menti b
mental block.
I have no idea.
Close yeah close.
It's a mental breakdown, okayyeah I had a little menti b
after I saw my email inbox.
(02:42):
That's a a good one.
I might use that.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
A little minty bee.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Two more here.
How about this one?
A soft block?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Is it in the cock block family or no?
I?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
don't think so.
It's not a softie.
Any idea?
No, you remove someone as afollower by blocking or
unblocking.
No drama, just distance.
I didn't want to unfollow orunblocking.
No drama, just distance.
I didn't want to unfollow, so Ijust soft blocked her, muted
them.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Nice, I've definitely done that.
You think that's worse?
Yeah, alright, last one, rentryman, I don't know these.
You're off, I am, I knew theones that she gave, so maybe her
list is out of date.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It probably is, yeah.
These are freshies, some sortof re-entry, I don't know.
Yeah, it's the mentaladjustment after a vacation, or
a long break.
So, first Monday back at workand I'm deep in re-entry.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Deep in re-entry.
Okay, so there we go.
Now you can be cool.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, now I'm hip, so you got to know these.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I knew all of Beth's but I think her list was out of
date.
These are like the newest ofthe Gen Z terms.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So we've been doing that gear segment for a while.
Yes, and we actually hadsomeone submit one to us, yeah,
we did, and it was gold.
Yeah, so this is from KevinNichols.
What's up, kevin Nichols?
He's in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I believe it's either South Carolina or Georgia.
Okay, I think it's Georgia.
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Georgia.
So we're going to play thisvideo of what he sent to us and
then we can talk about it herein a second.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
All right, joe and Brian, here you go.
Here's another equipment findfor Brian's little segment.
Got these on Amazon.
They clip together like thisand you put it up against a
sidewalk and now you have alittle ramp to get your stuff up
the sidewalk without having tofind the handicap ramp $39 on
Amazon, go get it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So these are basically to help you get in and
out of your trailer, I believe,or really just to get up a curb
when you're rolling your gear,that's true, yeah, solid point.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Think about it from a standpoint.
If they don't have a handicapramp or they don't have an
access ramp at all, yeah, andyou kind of pull up, you drop
your trailer door down, you dropyour you know like the ramp out
of the back of my bed, yeah,and you don't want to sit there
and pop the curb every times.
Yeah, these things go right up.
Do you have them?
I don't know, I'd never seenthem.
(05:01):
He.
And then he just hangs them onthe wall of his trailer.
When he needs them, he popsthem out.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
That's pretty cool.
I think he said they were $39.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
For the pair?
I believe so.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So we'll put the link for this on our Amazon card.
I'll let you do it, becauseyou're kind of the gear corner
guy.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, I will put these on there and I think we
should order a set, becausewe've got the evolved 90s.
Now the sub part are on theheathers.
They're heavy, yeah, and butthey're on casters right, so
those are rolling.
Yeah, we've got both of ourpop-up totems now.
Yeah, on the rock and roller,they stay on the rock and roller
(05:38):
.
We've got a small case ofmovers.
Those roll in and then even allthe small stuff.
We bring the pop-up totem cartback and do one more load, but
we basically roll everything in.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Now there's no hand carrying anything so I mean
having these little ramps wouldbe premium I was trying to think
if it would be something, sinceI'm on the road so much yeah
yeah, it probably would makesense, but if I was local those
do look solid.
Appreciate it, kevin.
Thanks for listening to.
Yeah, everybody wants to.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Any, we're happy to take whatever ones you guys are
using right, because Brian'sAmazon bill is freaking extra, I
had to cut it off.
I had to cut it off this month.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's your turn, tara.
Shut him down, shut me down.
I do have one that I'm holdingoff on, though, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
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Speaker 1 (06:50):
I had one more thing I was going to throw to you.
I just saw it on.
I think it was Sunday.
Oh no, it was Monday, the firstof the award show season.
Did you see it, amas?
Have you heard about this shit?
I think, but maybe fill therest well they.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
They've canceled the last two years okay so this is
their re-entry this is theirre-entry into the market and the
numbers and the people thatshowed up.
There were 10 album of the yearnominees.
Guess how many showed up?
One, zero, oh zero.
Then I was seeing all thisstuff about blake shelton
performing and gwen spottie andtaylor swift.
Did you hear about that whole?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
thing she didn't show up.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
yeah, yeah, she didn't show up either.
They played videos of thepeople performing.
They weren't even up on thestage.
Did you see any of the show?
No, I didn't even know.
It was on until it was halfover.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, the performers.
They had no, so they had JanetJackson.
Oh, j-lo did it too.
I didn't see her performance,but I heard it was a little
pitchy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
She's not a good singer.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
She's beautiful, but they had Janet, yeah, and she's
59 years old now.
Yes, right.
So I'm like, if you're tryingto market to the younger
generation just seemed oddchoices.
I mean, she only did All Foryou and Someone To Call my Lover
, which I thought those aregreat.
I mean I love those trackspersonally, but they're not like
her iconic tracks that shewould go out with.
She also looked solid for 59.
(08:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I was like, wow, I did see the clip of that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And then they had Gloria Estefan.
She's 79.
79.
How old is she really?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I think she is that, look that up 76.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I wrote it down actually in one of these and
then who.
And then the last one was RodStewart.
Yeah, gloria Estefan is 67.
Oh, I thought she was older.
Okay, sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Gloria, and then Rod Stewart.
Oh, he's definitely in his 70s,80.
God damn, and he wasn't evensinging.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He was so up probably no.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
here's the thing, though.
Here's what you're forgetting.
You know where it was.
I don't know Las Vegas.
So they got Janet and Rod onresidency to come down the
street and do a couple tracksfrom their show, promote their
show Blase Blas.
I mean it was like a throwbackshow.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I should have told my mom it was on and they closed
with Rod and I'm just like, whywould you close?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
with him.
That was the closer Were youwatching this, or are you?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
getting a recap Like half watching, half watching, so
like I would watch it?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
How did you even know it was on?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Because Tara was watching it initially and then I
, after I put Annie down, I waslike hey, let's watch the
basketball game.
And she was watching this.
I was like what is this?
Is this a ward show?
It was AMA, so I was goingbetween the game and that, you
know, the was like half full andit was like no celebrities.
They kept showing these randompeople in the crowd.
I'm just like I'm telling youman it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So you think it's dead?
I do.
There's no way that they comeback again.
It was a dick clark productionback in the day.
It was a.
It was a big deal, it was right.
I mean, michael jackson wouldbe on there, lionel, and even
even up into the 2000s it was apretty big deal.
But I mean, if you can't getanybody to show up, and
especially the biggest livingpop star in the world to show up
(09:41):
, to accept whatever she goteverything was video response
for the winners there's no waythat they recover from that.
No way.
I I genuinely believe that thatwill be the last year we see
the amas and is this the startor?
it just goes to like an onlineonly thing and then you know
they tweet out who won.
I don't think there will be abroadcast of that magnitude.
I mean, think about how manymillions of dollars that
(10:03):
production costs, whatevernetwork put it on is it the
beginning of the end for thesekind of shows?
I don't know about that.
I think it's the beginning ofthe end for anybody marginal.
I think.
The grammys live forever,oscars live forever, but a lot
of this other stuff, I think, aswell, there's what the mtv
music awards, I think that willeventually fade away because
that's not even a real networkanymore even things like the
(10:24):
golden globes, yeah, the tonysor whatever they do for broadway
.
All that stuff is just somarginally attended and viewed
that it's going to go justdigital only.
I'm not so sure they'll get ridof the award, but they'll get
rid of doing a broadcast of thatmagnitude.
The amount of money that lostthose networks and just bad
press and it's just a bad lookman.
(10:44):
They're dog shit.
Yeah, it'll probably like go toNetflix or something like that,
something like that, or justagain like they literally just
notify the winners, maybe getsome sort of response and tweet
out so-and-so won this award.
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Before Joe starts yelling inhis extra thick North Carolina
accent about how back in his day, djs used CDs and still had to
walk uphill both ways to a gig.
What's the question?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, let's do a question.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
This has got emailed into us.
This is fresh, this just camein.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Fresh.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
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Orlando Shout out Where's heagain.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Do you remember?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It would make sense he's in Florida I wish, I wish,
but it would make sense.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's in Florida.
I wish, I wish, but I don't.
I think that's actually hisname.
Okay, yeah, go ahead.
What do you guys do when aclient is persistent on asking
for the social media slashcontact for live musicians they
booked through you Like aviolinist for cocktail hour, sax
player for reception, drummerfor reception, et cetera, et
cetera?
I don't do this, man, so I'mhoping you can give a little bit
of insight into it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The expectations are set on the initial call.
Yeah, I mean, you're the kingof doing that, yeah.
So I tell them listen, ourmusicians.
They do what they do.
They are just performers.
I handle all the administration, all of the Making sure they're
there.
Yeah, they're just hired toperform and that's how we keep
the rate affordable.
We don't have them do planningcalls.
(12:59):
It's all done by the officein-house.
So the day of, I'm happy to givea phone number you know, but
it's not given out until likeliterally the day before, and
it's given to the planner.
That's kind of how we handle it, I mean, and they don't need to
be tagged and blah blah, blahblah Just tag my company.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
They're subcontracted by me.
I'm taking care of them, makingsure they have all their gear,
making sure they're on time,they're dressed appropriately,
Absolutely yeah, I would do thesame thing.
You don't need to talk to them.
You've entrusted us, my company, to provide the entertainment
for this event and I assure youthat these people are top notch.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
If I've got them working under my brand and I'm
trying to think of why theywould even want to reach out
outside of.
Yeah, I mean they alreadybooked.
Yeah, it says it here.
So is it just like song lists?
Or just to make sure they're areal human?
I don't know, but again, Ithink it's.
It's set up at the expectationearly on.
This is how we keep the rateaffordable, is to handle all
this in the house, and this isjust our protocol.
(13:57):
I have had a few times wherethey wanted to talk to them
directly.
Maybe it was because theywanted a special edit of
something or could they learnsomething, and I tell them hey,
if they need to learn anythingagain, that needs to go through
us because there may be a costinvolved.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Or maybe they can't do it, yeah, and then the DJ has
to play the recessidesmaids andgroomsmen, even the
processional, but like theywanted, sign, sealed, delivered,
or this will be an everlastinglove, the recorded version, and
we had to play that as theirafter their pronounced husband
(14:29):
and wife.
You know what I mean.
So sometimes it's just notsomething you can learn or it's
not gonna hit the same as like apop song.
You know, a lot of people areleaving now to a popular song,
even if it was popular 40 yearsago or whatever.
It just hits different.
I think.
What are your thoughts?
Like Saquon and I have seenthis the last two weekends A lot
of these musicians, especiallylike a violinist or a harpist,
(14:51):
they must have a two-hourminimum and so they basically
make the couple hire them notonly for the ceremony but also
for the cocktail hour.
It just is the most boringcocktail hour.
It's fine for the ceremony man.
We also noticed that a violinby itself is kind of shitty.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Doo-doo, doo-doo.
Yeah, not going to work.
It's so sad.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And then she proceeded over to the cocktail
hour and just sat there.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And was she mic'd at all?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, oh, it's even worse, just like standing in the
corner and I was like man.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I was like listen, I'm like dude, it sounds
miserable.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It just sounded yeah, like we were, like yeah, we
were like you know in tears atthe end of cocktail hour and you
could almost feel this likerefreshing breath of air when
the ballroom doors opened, ofair when the guests when the
ballroom doors open and they leteverybody you know the the the
guests in and we're playingright Um, jack Johnson or Bob
Marley or whatever, and youcould almost feel them be like
(15:49):
okay now.
Now this feels like a party,right, man, I don't know, do you
feel the same?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I think there's certain ones that you can get
away with it with, like as anexample anytime we book a
guitarist a single guitaristyeah, they have the ability to
sound chill for ceremony andthen ramp it up for cocktail
Because they're I wouldn't saythey're always playing
instrumental for ceremony butit's a little bit more somber.
Yeah, or serious.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, I would say, with a guitar they can, and they
can loop.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, they can loop and do a bunch of other things.
Okay, so like those ones workIf it's a single musician with
strings like violin cello, evena sax player, like it just
sounds thin.
Yeah, and I tell a couple ofthis, like you know, usually the
good news is they book throughus for a lot of the musician
stuff, right, so they don't gooutside of that, right.
But I do tell them like, listen, if you're going to do strings,
(16:34):
you got to have a quartet,right, because it just will
sound fuller.
Yeah, and I have seen acocktail hour where it is
jamming because they're playinglike taylor swift or whatever
the case may be, but it soundsfull right, if it's one.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
If it's one, it's wimpy.
Okay, super wimpy, just makingsure I'm not crazy.
That's all I got.
That's all I got.
Man, this is a good littleshort little episode here yeah,
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