July 18, 2025 • 53 mins
In this episode, we explore the towering tales of giants — from ancient myths to modern conspiracy theories. Are these colossal beings just metaphors for power and fear, or is there a sliver of truth buried in the stories passed down through generations? We dig into global legends, from Norse jotnar and the Nephilim of biblical texts to the giants of Native American and Greek mythology. Along the way, we’ll examine archaeological claims, literary symbolism, and the role giants play in the human imagination. Join us as we stand toe-to-toe with the giants of myth and mystery.
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- Giants
- Mythology
- Folklore
- Legends
- Ancient civilizations
- Nephilim
- Norse mythology
- Greek mythology
- Jotnar
- Cryptids
- Archaeology
- Supernatural
- Conspiracy theories
- Tall tales
- Mythical creatures
- History podcast
- Storytelling
- Urban legends
- Ancient mysteries
- Fantasy folklore
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, join us as we delve into our favorite
dark tales and paranormal mysteries.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Venture with us beyond the safe places that exist in daylight.
As we go Beyond the Shadows, true crime, paranormal hauntings, UFOs,
cryptids and unsolved mysteries, conspiracy theories, past lives, reincarnation and
all the like are.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Just a few of the topics that we will tackle.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
If it haunts your fucking dreams, then it will be
on our show.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Do you know what the most in the world is?
Beyond the shuttles where you found me at? You can't
see me in the deepest blacks when your heart starbusts
and then you see their cracks, all these creepy things
that you wind at track for the defense be where
the actions at. So this enough you want it, UFOs,
all the ghosts. We got everything that you want. It
(00:56):
won't do you know what the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
In the world is?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hi, and welcome back to episode one hundred and forty
nine of Beyond the Shadows.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Welcome back Shadow people. You know. First off, I want
to thank Ryan for filling in last week. He stepped up.
Make sure you guys got an episode when there probably
wouldn't have been one, and I appreciate that. But I
had another issue in the family. My sister in law
passed away, so I had to make an emergency trip
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out to Nebraska. But we're back now. We're gonna having
computer issues.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, so summer hasn't got that much better.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
By any If you get this episode, it's a it's
a miracle, straight up. We are having issue after issue
after issue. We're hoping we've reached the bottom of all
the bad shit and we can turn this around. So
all right, Bud. Yeah, we wanted to say we got
a new review you from Anna Yo twenty two. Very
(02:02):
nice review. We appreciate that. That puts us on the
US side at ninety six. We need four more to
bust that one hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
What if? What if we can do it this week?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Any chance I want to do don't make us go
make four new Apple accounts and get ready, because we'll
do it. We'll do it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
We got four new reviews from Ryan one, Ryan two.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
If you go all the way back, there's definitely one
in there from Beyond the Shadows.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So one of those is we didn't even we didn't
even hide it. It just says Beyond the Show says
we're doing our best, so technically we're at ninety five.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, no, no, it coms uh So.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We didn't write it down as part of our regular news,
which we're about to do, but uh, I think everybody's
seen the news this week is uh, basically, if you
if you're if you're gonna go out and cheat, don't
do it at a place with a fucking jumbo tron.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Coldplay just straight cold played that motherfucker. If you guys
haven't seen it. The jumbo tron at the Coldplay Gellette
Gellette at the Coldplay concert just totally dude just got
busted hard.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So they were doing like a kiss scam, if you
haven't seen it, and they were putting up like couples
and ship on the screen, and at one point Chris Martin,
the wead singer at Coldplay, is like, oh, look at
these two, and the two on the screen realize they're
on the screen. She covers her face and turns away,
and then the guy fucking like drops down like he's
trying to.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Get his face off, just drops like a rock.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And Chris Martin says, Oh, these tour are either cheating
or they're really shy, and he was right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They were cheating as they are.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And guy's like a CEO of a big tech company
and she's his Like, I forget.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Her tight human resource basically run some weird ass title
they gave her some new modern day title.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Is the head of a head of HR. And you know,
correct me if I'm wrong, But doesn't HR always preach
no inter.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Office relationships pretty much their job. He's gonna have to
let her go.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Her credibilities pretty well shot. So she, from what I understand,
is divorced. She's no longer married, but he is very
much married, not to her. I doubt he's anymore because
I heard his wife changed her took his name off
of her name on Facebook this morning before canceling her
account altogether.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Soon he'll but she'll be taking his name off of
the uh the deed to the house.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I hope she takes him to the cleaners. What a moron?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, and didn't you say you heard that the guy
was a real asshole?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I did read under one thread world.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Was allegedly we don't want to get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I don't know anything about the guy. I read under
one thread that one former employees said, they're all loving
it because the guy was. He said he created a
toxic atmosphere and was basically an asshole. Those are my words,
not his, but that's what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah. So well, I guess you get what you get.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It comes around. Uh So elsewhere in the news we
get several drivers in Victorville, California, they called authorities this
past Sunday when they saw it looked like a creepy
teddy bear that was perhaps made of human skin. And
if you look at it.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's the creepy fucking teddy bear in my life.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Definitely looks like a teddy bear made of human skin.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And it's supposed to.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yes, So the creepy object was tracked down at a
gas station on Bear Valley Road. The creepy bear was
inspected by both a deputy corner and a forensic pathologist,
so they weren't fucking around, no, no, and they determined
that it was not made of human skin. It turns
out it was a piece of artwork created by Robert
Kelly at Dark Seed Creations and you can buy your
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own for one hundred and fifty bucks plus.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
If you're into creepy, morbid looking shit. It's it's that.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, it's an impressive piece.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It is, because it really looks like it's human skin.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What else would you think it was? If I saw
that thing and didn't have any other reference point, I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's like some serial killer shit for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
For real. Oh off of the record, you know how
they're supposed to be a New England serial killer going around.
There was a murder in Maine, up in Union and
they thought that it was related. But it turns out
just today they arrested a seventeen year old who it
was a woman who went on in her kayak and
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it looks like and she didn't come back, and it
looks like she was strangled. And they've arrested a seventeen
year old kid that's here on vacation, comes here every summer.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
In Yeah, I just saw that tonight on the news.
So not really more than likely not related to the
New England serials they were linking it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
News gets creepier every day it does. The purpse could
be male, female, twelve, seventy ninety. It doesn't matter anymore,
not at all. Everybody is capable of being an absolute
monster these days. Absolutely, turn on the news is depressing.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So what else we gotten the news? Pick it back up?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Speaking of the news, you know where we're going Florida.
We have another really intelligent criminal. So a guy walks
into a Low's in Flagler County and he attempts to
steal fifteen hundred dollars worth of shit. He's quickly noticed
by store staff and he just end its the item,
so he just boots. So apparently his plan didn't include
people noticing him, not.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Running for trying to off with fifteen worth of shit.
They fucked me, you know, because of these idiots at Lows.
You can't go in Lows without everything being wrapped in
an alarm. I know, you walk through Low's, we set
off three or four of them every time I me
and my son just run.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
They never they never shut him off when I go out.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh, they're constantly going off.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I guess I have to pay for it.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, apparently they don't stop going off in the parking
lot down to my house.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So his plan didn't account for getting spotted, not paying
for the goods. It also didn't account for a getaway
vehicle because he didn't have one. Yo, he's his on foot,
So he flees the store and hops onto the back
of passing ups truck. The driver makes it a couple
of miles down the road before he spots the guy,
pulls over and orders him off. The guy does get off.
Cops show up and arrest him, thirty one year old
(07:55):
Michael Diversa. So he's been charged with the shoplifting grand theft.
I've never heard of that world, but.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Dude, those places, those box stores like that have been
getting ripped off huge. That's why there's alarms on everything.
People do like it. I mean a power tool, You
grab a power tool and walk. You're talking like five
six hundred bucks or some of them.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know, Well he tried it, yep, what's had three
of them. So he was booked in a Flagler County
jail on a fifteen thousand dollars bond. So July fifth,
we've got a man from Paris. He leaves for a
long vacation with his wife and his daughter. They're going
to Morocco. So they stopped for is a long drive.
They stopped for gas, meals, bathroom breaks, all that, and
(08:36):
they'll make a pretty good time. So at nighttime they
stop at a gas station real quick, and then they
continue on their journey. The man can't shake the feel
that he forgot something.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
What did I forget?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So after no, I'm forgetting something, four hours of driving
in one hundred and eighty six miles, he finally figures
out what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh fuck, it's Marsha. He forgot his wife.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, it's like five minutes down the road. It's one
hundred and eighty six miles. I don't buy for it.
No way that he forgot.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
She was driving his ass crazy. He he only went
back because he had to.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He's like four hours away. He's like, fuck, I don't
know the Netflix password. Yeah, damn it, she's got my
Jersey micro car.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It was one sandwich away. So he calls the costs.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
At this point, he probably decides to call the cops
before she finds him. You know, he needs to find
her before she finds him. He's got to realize she's
fucking up. So he calls the costs. But when he
goes to get help, he can't even quote remember what
gas station she's at. He has no idea even what
town they were, and let alone what gas station.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
No, I mean, I guess if you're driving across car
I just did it, drove across the country. I ninety
percent of time had no idea where I was.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, but you came home with your wife.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I came home, Yeah, I didn't leave, whether when I
came back, whether I had left her out there.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So the cops eventually track her down, but they really
had to search because he didn't have any clue.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Isis he was? But I don't get his How does
she not call him?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I don't know. They didn't say anything about cell phones.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And no what what day and age is this?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, it's possible she get out to go to the
bathroom and they just stopped to take a leak.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She had the phone didn't bring.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So she'd been sitting there since four thirty in the
morning when the cops finally tracked her down. So she
was there for a long time. She's sitting on the curb.
She must have been fucking shit.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I'm like, can you life slight her to me? I
really don't want to go all the way back. As
soon as he got three sixty miles round trip home.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
He ordered himself a flesh legs.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
He's gonna need it. He won't forget that at guess.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Lastly, we get the Haunted Annabel though made famous by
the Conjuring movies and all the various spin offs. So
the doll was out on tour in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, when
her curse may have struck again. Lead investigator Dan Rivera
of the New England Society for Psychic Research was one
of two men in charge of handling the haunted doll
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while on tour. So in the middle of the night
for US responders were called to a local hotel about Rivera,
but they were unable to save his life, and as
of yet, no cause of death has been revealed.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Annabell's actually scheduled. I don't know if the tour is
going to continue, but she's supposed to be in Maine
here in a couple of weeks. Yeah, that's one of
the stops on the tour coming.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Up where she kept normally, if it's in New England.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
She I don't know where her permanent home is now.
She was at the Warren's house in their museum Warrens
in Monroe, Kentucky, Kentucky. Excuse me, in Monroe, Connecticut, Connecticut,
when Lorraine Warren passed away in twenty nineteen the museum.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh, I bet I know where she is. The other
guy has a Baggins No, no, no, there's a guy
that Baggins stole his idea from that. We talked about
him before. I talked about him in a few episodes. Uh,
it's like his nephew. Oh yeah, Warren's nephew. He was
on he had a show on uh Discovery or something.
(12:11):
I can't remember his name right and stuff. Yeah, I
think he has it. I think he wants it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So a lot of the stuff might still be in
the museum. That's just not open to the public anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So, right, I go check a rev Yeah, I don't know.
It's interesting. They had like a replica at the Conjuring
House they did there, But I mean, all it is
is a raggedy hand doll. You know, they could say
it's the legit one. How then are you gonna know?
I wouldn't know the difference. I didn't even know it
was a raggedy nd until I saw it. Oh, it's
just raggedy. Ann I had one of those.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Still does I still do. So that's it for the
news this week. What do you get for us?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Something different? I am going to talk about giants.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
All right, that's it. It's a puzzle book. I think,
what the fuck I waited all for giants? All right
with giants?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Do you know what in the world is.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right? As Ryan seemed real excited about giants waiting
for this one, let me check.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We need to know to thank for this.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Nobody requests no one, not one. This is what you
get for not requesting it. So every culture has them,
stories of being so big that they could crush a
house with one step. They're carved into the oldest tales
like they're part of our bones. In Norse mythology, the
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jot gnar, I'm gonna have all kinds of stuff I
can't pronounce in this one. So buckle up, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
That's what they do.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So you've been waiting for or the Frost Giant. They
weren't just big guys with bad attitudes. They were chaos
itself born and the primal void, shaping mountains with their
fists and waging wars against the gods. So picture Weimer,
the first giant, supposedly so massive his body became the
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Earth when he fell across the sea. The Greeks had
their titans, like Prometheus, who towered over mortals, stealing fires
from the heaven even closer to home. Native American tribes
like the Paiute of Nevada. And I know I got
that one right because I had Groc tell me how
to say it, because they could not work it out.
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Spoke of the Sitka, which were red haired giants who
roamed the desert, fierce and cannibalistic enemies of the people.
But these weren't just fairy tales. They're warnings and things
about things too big to fight, too wild to tame.
What's creepy is how these stories align. Giants are always
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tied to the untame mountains, forest and places where humans
feel small. The Celts had the for Morians, seaborn monsters
with one eye and one leg guarding Ireland's wild shores.
The Bible talked of Goliath, a warrior that was nine
feet tall, and of the Nephelin, the sons of God
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who walked the earth before the flood, just different names.
Why do we keep telling these stories? Is it just
fear of the unknown, or did our ancestors see something,
something real that left these echoes. I'm not saying that
every myth is like a news report, but when every
corner of the world has its own giants story, you
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start to wonder what were they seeing. So I mean,
if you look through history, you're seeing all these stories
of giants. You know, it's not like one or two.
They come up over and over and over again. So
you get to look what we found out there was.
So before we thought humans just evolved, and now we're
seeing there was how many different types of humans along
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in the way. We know that there were small, small
humans that were basically hobbits, you know, giants. Why why
not giants?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Well, yeah, it gives the more credibility when it's coming
from all different areas of the globe, different civilizations, different
time periods, when they're all coming up with the same story,
when they couldn't possibly have met each other, it's definitely
get more credibility.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Right exactly, And it's not one place. We're going to
talk about a few different ones. But first off, we're
gonna talk about the Onanaki, which could be an episode
in itself. I mean, at some point I'll probably really
dig into the on Aanaki, but we'll look a little
deeper into this. So this is where the line between
myth and reality gets kind of blurry enough to make
your skin crawl. We're talking about giants, and we talked
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about giants and folklore, you know, like I said, the
North Jottnar, the Titans, the Payuts. But what if some
of these monstrous men weren't just stories. What if they're
tied to something or someone that came from beyond earth.
That's where the Ononaki come in. That name can send
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chills down the spine of anyone who dug into ancient mysteries.
If you've really dug in, you've heard of the Onanaki.
These beings, described in Samerian texts from over four thousand
years ago, are said to be gods from the stars,
and some say they might be the key to why
giants walk the earth. The Samarian Samerians, one of the
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oldest civilizations in Mesitope, Mesopotamia. Boom Took a Minute wrote
about the Onanaki on klay tablets, stories etched in stone
that felt like they belonged in a sci fi horrorflic.
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They called them gods who descended from the heavens, powerful
beings who shaped humanity itself. The Enuma and Elish, their
creation epic described the Onanaki as other worldly rulers, sometimes
depicted as towering figures with knowledge far beyond mortal reach.
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They weren't just tall tails. The Samarians believe these beings
came from a place called Nabiu. Have you heard of this?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think so, since familiar.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
A mysterious planet that some claim orbit beyond our site.
So if you heard there's a planet, they said planet X,
planet nine, which we thought we had nine before.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Biro and planet X are the same or no.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
A lot of people believe that Naberu is one of
the planets in our solar system that's on a weird
orbit that comes around like so many. I don't. I'll
dig into it when I go look at the Onanaki,
but there is when they do their calculations in our
are our solar system. They truly believe that there is
a planet out there, ninth planet that we haven't discovered
(19:05):
by Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think Neptune is getting rocked on its axis somehow
doing it. So they think there's something huge that we
can't see right and maybe it orbits Earth like top
to bottom rather than side.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
In a different orbit. Yeah. Yeah, So, and that's one
a lot of people believe is the is the one
I was speaking of the Biru yep Yes, a mysterious planet.
Some claim orbit beyond our site. Now here's where it
gets eerie. These tablets talk about the Onanaki experimenting with
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early humans, mixing their essence with ours to create workers
for their cosmic agenda, mining, gold, building cities, you name it.
But what if they created something else, something bigger. Fast
forward to the Bible and you'll find in the Book
of Genesis, chapter six, Nephialum, those sons of God who
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came down and took human women, giving birth to mighty
men of old is what they call the men of
the renown. The word Nephlum is often translated as giants.
Some researchers, like Zachariah Sitchens, who studied the Samerian text,
argued that these sons of God were the Ananaki, and
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their offspring were no ordinary humans, but high bred beings,
half human, half god, with unnatural height and strength, roaming
the earth like living legends. The Book of Enoch, in
ancient texts left out of the Bible, goes further, describing
these giants as monstrous, some standing thirty feet tall, devouring
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crops and terrifying tribes. Were these Ananaki creations or mistakes?
So the uh that book actually exists, It's not a
the Book of Enoch A lot of people thought should
be part of the Bible, but it wasn't included and
it doesn't it mentions all of this stuff. This is
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where a lot of people get their info on the
Onanaki out of the Book of Enoch. So stories of
these giants don't just stay in ancient text. Across the world,
from Mesopotamia to the to Americas, you find whispers of
gods and their oversized kin. The paiut I mentioned earlier
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had their their me Sitacan. The giants with the red
hair and massive frames would fit the profile for these hybrids,
especially since the legends don't just talk of giants, but
of beings who came from elsewhere. Even today, you'll find
posts on x from folks claiming ancient ruins like the
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massive stones of Balbec and Lebanon were built built by
or four beings far bigger than us, maybe under Ananaki guidance,
but there's no hard proof. There's no alien DNA in
the museum case. But when you stand in the shadow
of these impossible stones or read about bones too big
for a human. You can't help, but wonder did the
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Onanaki leave giants in their wake? So we'll head over
to the Lovelock Cave in Nevada. In the Nevada Desert,
about twenty miles south of the town of Lovelock. Back
in nineteen eleven, miners were digging for batguano. You know
what bad iguana is, right, bad shit. They used it
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for fertilizer. They use it for explosives. They used it.
Remember in the I think they're mining for it, young Guns,
the first young Guns. You remember that.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I remember the movie. I don't remember it.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Anyways. Yeah, they in that movie they were mining. They
used it for it was supposedly, I mean, it's shit,
it's great fertilizer. Yeah, But when the miners were digging
for that, they hit something strange. Bones, big ones, not
just animal bones, but skulls and femurs that look human
only a little wrong, too large. The story goes that
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they found skeletons measuring seven, eight, even ten feet tall,
some with red hair, just like the Piute legend. The
Piute said that the giants were their enemies, driven into
Lovelock Cave thousands of years ago. And burned out in
a final desperate battle. So apparently over time they said
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that these giants tormented them, they would eat they would
actually eat the men. They would capture them, kill them
and eat them. They were I don't know, does that
making cannibals If they're giants, I guess they're human, So
I guess it makes the cannibals different species. But supposedly
they drove them all into this cave at or they are.
The cave is where they were a lot of times.
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But they lit it up and burned them and killed
them off. That's how they killed them off. The miners
just discovery seemed to back it up too. There were
jawbones twice the size of a man's and other strange
artifacts and massive tools. Archaeologists has got involved in nineteen
twelve and again in nineteen twenty four, led by a
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guy named Llewellyn Loud from the University of California. They
cataloged oversized remains, including a skull that suggested a height
of over seven feet. How tall was Andre the giant?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think he was over seven foot was he? He
was fucking huge.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And he had a skull that you would have looked
at like what he had elpan Titus.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Though, didn't he No, not elfin Titis, but.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, not no giant yeahiet yeah, not elfent Titus. That's
when you look like the eleven Man. The Lovelock Review Minor,
a local paper, ran wild with it, claiming giant skeletons
were proof of ancient Titans. Some artifacts, like oversized sandals
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and woven mats, ended up in museums like the Nevada
State Museum. But here's where it gets a little murky.
A lot of the bones disappeared. Some say they were mishandled.
Others whispered that they were hidden, maybe because they challenged
what we think we know. By the nineteen thirties, mainstream
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science was calling it a hoax or exaggeration, saying the
bones were just big humans or misidentified megafauna like mammoth femurs.
But the Payute never wavered. Their oral history passed down
from generation insisted they were real and the cave was
their tomb. Stand in love Luck Cave today and you
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could feel it. The air is heavy, the walls blackened
from ancient fire, so you can see there was the
caves are burned. Inside, there was definitely a fire, which
kind of backs up the It backs up the story,
but was a giants?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, I hate it when the evidence that could prove
it just disappeared. It happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You're gonna get into it a little bit, because that's
why what you think you're hearing all the time. If
you look through some of this history, that they found
giant bones all over the place, especially here in America,
and every time somebody's involved, the same people are involved
every time. When this stuff does go missing, I'll talk
about it in a little bit. Locals still talk about
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strange lights in the desert or heavy steps heard at night,
and nineteen eighty four geologists claim to find a jawbone
buried near the cave, too big for any normal human,
but it vanished before it could be studied. Coincidence or
was it on the Epstein list? Never finding that shit
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or something someone didn't want to want us to see it.
I'm not saying it's proved, but when you've got an
ancient stories, newspaper reports, and missing evidence all points to
giants in the same same part of Nevada, it's enough
to make you wonder what's buried out there waiting to
be dug up. We've reade this part three times, fuck
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up even more than normal that we can't even keep it. Oh,
fuck it whatever, So we're gonna go to Serparent Mound
in Ohio. You get a picture of a massive, sinuous
shaped carved into the earth, one three hundred and forty
eight feet long, coiled through the hills of the Adam
County like a snake ready to strike. It's a large
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effigy mound, the largest effigy mound in the world, built
hands we can't quite name, and when you stand on
his curve under a gray sky, there feels stick again,
while something watching from the trees. The mound's been there
for centuries, maybe over a thousand years, and some say
it's a monument to giants beginning excuse me, beings who
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walk these lands before us, their shadows etched into the dirt.
The Serparent Mound is tied to the Adena culture, who
thrived around a thousand BC or maybe the late fort ancient.
But fuck so back.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
One hour.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
We're gonna leave it, so they gotta get worse from here, guys.
So Serparent Mound is tied to the Dina culture, who
thrived around a thousand BC or maybe the later for
four ancient people around a thousand CE. Archaeologists aren't sure
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who built it, but they know it's no random pile
of dirt. Have you seen it? This serpent mound. It
looks like a snake going through the It's huge. You know,
we don't realize how much of this stuff we actually
have here in the United States. Most people are just oblivious.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, a lot of times. It's a shit that you
can always see from the.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Air, though, and this is one of those things that
it's if you're down on it, you can't tell what
it is, but from above you certainly can. Or if
you're a giant. Now, this snake with this open jaw
swallowing what looks like an egg or maybe a cosmic portal,
that's what some people believe. So it is a line,
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making it a calendar for the stars. So it's got
the celestial I can't I can't even go there. Fucking
we get what you're shooting. Yeah, it's the calendar. Word.
The hotel is Shawnee, whose ancestors roamed these lands, told
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the story of giant beings, not just tall men, but
guardians of sacred places. Some of the oral traditions passed
down through smokey council fires, speak of the great ones
who shape the land, piling earth into shapes. Only gods
or giants could dream up the mounds. Scale alone makes
you wonder who had this strength, the vision to sculpe
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a serpent. You can only see from the sky, So
once again, I mean, that's like the Nasca lines. You
can only see those from an airplane.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, And then you wonder why why do it?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yea yeah, And they keep finding more and more of those.
So in nineteenth centuries, when settlers started digging around the mounds,
they found burials, skeletons reportedly oversized with skulls, and femurs
too big for ordinary human. Newspapers from the eighteen eighties
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like the Cincinnati Enquirer ran stories of giant bones unearthed nearby,
some claiming heights of seven or eight feet. But were
they exaggerating maybe? But the Ohio Historical Society documented finds
of unusually large remains in nearby mounds, though many were
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lost to time, just like the Lovelock Caves. The locals
still talk about the strange figures seen near the mounds
at dust. They always have these these stories, you know,
like they're still around, and obviously that's not the case.
But the Shawnee spoke of a serpent spirit, a protector,
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but also of beings who battled it, giants who left
their mark in the earth before fading into legend. Could
be a tribute to them or a warning if someone
somewhere doesn't want us to know about giants. Picture this
a dusty archive room locked away in the heart of Washington,
d C. Where the Smithsonian Institute, the beacon of science
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and history, holds relics of the past. But what if
they're hiding something. What if the bones of giants, real
towering beings were dug up across America, only to vanish
into their valls, never to be seen again. That's the
whisper that keeps creeping through the cracks of history over
the centuries. So what they've time and time again is
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what they're saying, is people from the Smithsonian have taken
these bones to study them, and then these bones are
just never seen again. So why, you know, I mean,
are they trying to cover up just because it doesn't
go with the history that we believe? Why would they
do it? You know, I mean, forever they didn't even
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want us to believe that they were other types of humans.
So I mean I could see it to an extent.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, back when religion and science were at odds, right,
which they probably are.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But no, it's way less now.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
The Church can't control the narrative anymore yet.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Right. So, back in the nineteenth and the twentieth centuries,
newspapers were buzzing with stories oversized skeletons unearthed across the
whole United States, seven to eight, sometimes even ten feet tall,
found in mounds, caves, and river beds. The New York
Times in eighteen ninety seven reported a nine foot skeleton
in Wisconsin. The San Antonio Express in the nineteen hundreds
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described a giant skull from Texas. They weren't just tall tales.
They were detailed accounts and often tied to digs by farmers, miners,
or early archaeologists. And here's where the Smithsonian enters the story.
Many of these reports mentioned the institution taking custody of
the fines creates shipped off for studying, never to return
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the American antiquities. I can get antiquities right, but I
can't get fuck it. I can't get society right. Records
from the eighteen eighties note the Smithsonian agents collecting unusually
large remains from the Ohio Mounds near where the Serpent
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Mound coils were. Yet, when researchers today asked to see
those bones, that met with silence or claims the artifacts
were lost or misidentified as animal remains. And I could
see that some of them would mean there were mammoth
bones and stuff like that. But nowadays it's pretty easy,
and I'm sure that it's pretty easy for them to
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tell the difference between a human bone and a mammoth bone.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I would think in ninety how much of a scientist
if you can't tell right, I don't know it's a bone.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It could be anything. In nineteen ninety three, a researcher
name Vine Dolora Junior, a Native American scholar, wrote about
a pattern giant skeletons reported Smithsonian involved evidence gone. He
pointed into letters from the eighteen hundreds where Smithsonians curators
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dismiss giant bones as exaggerations without publishing any studies. They
would just straight up say, oh no, they're just exaggerating.
But no studies of the bones or anything like that
were ever shown. Some say the institution tied to the government,
had a motive to keep the history tidy, to bury
anything that didn't fit into the narrative of human evolution.
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Why maybe giants challenged scientific dogma, or hinted at truce
like ancient visitors, or lost races, something that was too
wild for the textbooks back in the days. But to
this day, post on acts still circulate stories of whistleblowers,
like a sad supposed nineteen twenty Smithsonian worker who claimed
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crates of oversized bones were destroyed or locked in restricted vaults.
There's no hard proof, of course, just enough smoke to
make you wonder about the fire stand in the shadows
of the Smithsonian National Museum today and you can't help
but feel it a weight, like the history hiding something
too big to explain. And I don't there's obviously stuff
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that has been hidden away. Yeah, but for it has
to be for the purpose of trying to keep a narrative.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, I don't understand what the narrative would be on it.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I think for this it would have to be religious
or if people would link something I don't know. You can't.
I don't know how that you could link a giant
other than what I said with the Yanaki. Like a
regular person who doesn't know about that, you're just going
to think, Hey, back in the day there were giants.
It was just people that were bigger there. I mean,
if you're a religious person, they're in the text, Ziliath
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was mentioned.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know, it almost had to be the church. Who
else would have the motive if there was a cover
up of a sport.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Though I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
It doesn't make a lot of sense for me of
them to them have for science to be hiding the
giants doesn't make.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Well, no, it really doesn't. Deep in the heart of
the Mediterranean, though, on the island of Malta there's whispers
of giants. Malta has its own legends of colossal beings.
This tiny island, barely a speck on the map, holds
some of the oldest structures known to humanity, Megalithic temples
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like Gargantua, built between three thousand, six hundred and thirty
two hundred BC, long before the Egyptian Pyramids or Stonehenge.
But these aren't just piles of rock, massive limestone slabs,
some weighing over fifty tons, stands stacked in eerie precision,
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as if placed by hands way larger than our own.
Call it Gargantua for a reason. The Maltese word gargant
means giant, and the stories say these temples were the
work of a race of titans who once ruled the island,
the legend of the Sansuna. At the legend of Sansuna,
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a giantess with unimaginable strength exists in multi folklore. She
was no mere mortal, they say, a towering figure who
could cradle boulders like pebbles, building Gargansian's walls to honor gods,
or perhaps to warn intruetruders of her power. But Sansuna
wasn't alone. Stories speak of an entire race of giants.
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They were the protectors of sacred knowledge or something far
more sinister. Watching from the edge of time. Archaeologists only
only deepen the questions. Excavations around Gargantua and other sites
have uncovered artifacts that don't quite fit. Tools too large
for human hands, doorways scaled for beings well over seven
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feet tall, and altars positioned meant as if meant for
giants to kneel before them. In the early twentieth century,
diggers stumbled upon bones, skulls too massive, limbs too long,
skeletons that seemed to defy human proportions. Locals swore that
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these were remains of the ancient giants, but the finds
vanished into the fog history, once again misplaced, mislabeled, or
dare we say, deliberately hidden. Mainstream scholars dismissed them as
animal bones, perhaps from Malta's extinct dwarf, elephants or hippos. Yet,
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standing among the weathered stones of Gargantua, feeling the weight
of the impossible mass, the official story feels hollow. Something
doesn't add up the what is this? Hal hippo, I
can't say this here? Help me with this.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
One, hypergum?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
This is a sub a subterranean labyrinth and cave which
is carved into solid rock about the same time as
the temples were. But this isn't just a cave. It's
a three level maze of chambers spiraling downwards. Discovered in
nineteen oh two, it held thousands of human remains, some
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with skulls that defied explanations. So this is where they
found the skulls. Some of them were elongated. You remember
the elongated skulls almost alien in shape. There is something
beyond human strangers still are the tails of the sealed tunnels,
stretching deeper into the earth, where workers claimed to hear faint,
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unnatural sounds like rumbles and breathing or something massive. But
it says it was a sanctuary for the giants, a
place where they commune. Others whispered it was a prison,
locking away something that should never see the light. The
giants of Malta resonate with the Onanaki threads we've unraveled before.
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Fringe theorists echo the echoing. The likes of Zachariah Sitchens
point to Malta as a nexus of ancient extraterrestrial activity.
And I mean, if you've seen those skulls they can wrap,
you've seen where they wrap the stuff to deform the skulls.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
That's what a lot of them look like. But were
they doing and that's more than likely what they were,
But were they doing it to look like something else, Like, say,
there was something there that had the elongated skull. Were
they trying to.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Emulate something emulate that?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I mean, that's what it's always seemed like. To me,
not like that they were actual aliens, but they were
trying to look like something they'd seen.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Before as possible, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
So that chamber of it also amplified whispers into echoes,
which suggested knowledge far beyond what a small island culture
should know. It was like an amphitheater in there, and
I mean a a small island like this. They didn't
know how to do that kind of or they shouldn't
know how to do that kind of stuff back in
this time. So you wonder, could the giants have been
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hybrids crafted from the Onanaki to serve as builders or sentinels.
Where these temples cosmic outposts linking Earth to distant stars.
The idea isn't as wild as it sounds when you
consider the the global echo of giant lore from Lovelock
red hair Titans to the Nephilum of the Bible. Skeptics,
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of course, have their answers, rollers and levers, That's what
they say. Move the stones. The giant are just fossils,
and their oversized tools are symbolic, not practical. But walk
the path of Malta at dusk where the temples are,
and your logical waiver, Why do so many cultures speak
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of giants. Why do Malta stones older than history itself
feel like they're hiding the truth? Giants? All right?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
So what do you think Do giants exist? And I
don't mean like slightly oversized humans, Like even today you've
got the random eight foot person or close to eight
foot that's not a giant. This is a kind of
an outlier.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Do I think back in the day there's a possibility
that there were giants? Yeah, I think there possibly was.
When stuff pops up in the text so many times,
you can usually explain it away one or two stories
or whatever. And I don't know that people. I don't
know that they actually the Smithsonian actually snatched these things
up and hit them. There's a lot of stories that
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were popping up all over the country, all over the
United States. Those articles aren't fake, those are real articles.
The news articles all existed. They were out there looking
and finding different stuff. Was it all bullshit? I don't know.
It doesn't seem like it would all be. But I
have a really hard time thinking the Smithsonian's going around
snatching up stuff to hide it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Though back in the day, I don't think they even
had the resources to be running all around, snatching shit up,
ninding it.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
But there is. But see, then I get the question, like,
there's definitely something going on in the Grand Canyon. There's
parts of the Grand Canyon that people aren't allowed to go.
They're blocked off from it, and it's something that we
should look at for doing the story. But and they
don't allow them to go there. And people said forever
that they've found Egyptian type things that were it was
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documented being found there early on, and then now nobody's
allowed there. So I mean, there's there's different things that
you see where they've stopped you from at least even looking. Yeah,
you know, and that's just makes you question it even
more so. Do I I believe that there was giants.
It's a good possibility that there were people that a
race that was way bigger. Now I don't mean like
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giant giant. I don't believe that there was thirty footers,
but seven or eight isn't that crazy? No, you know,
you're talking if they were if they were true hobbits,
which were three or four feet, and then the average
person what five to six feet? Is it crazy to
think that there was another maybe Neanderthals I mean, they
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were a little bit larger, but you know, is it
crazy to think that was another thing of humans that
were seven eight feet tall?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
It's not that not that far fetchal.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
It's really not so the fact that the Smithsonian's cover
them up. That's a little more far fetched, but the
fact that they but the fact that they existed not really.
We're finding stuff all the time, you know, we're finding
different types of human beings and stuff like that all
the time, and finding out they existed at the same time.
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It truly was the lord of the rings.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Science has always reinvented itself, which is basically the whole
born of science, right, continue to look until you get
it right and then reanalyze and see it from another perspective.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
But when you do stories like this, it's like they're
trying to you. The idea is that they're trying to
suppress the science so that the religion can remain. And
maybe that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I think. Sometimes they're trying to suppress and other times
they flood it with so much shit you can't tell
what's what.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well, that's the government for sure. That's the UFOs.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Either withhold information or drop so much information you can't
tell what's what it means?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
So much shit that and that's what they do with UFOs. Yeah,
like right now, if you look at time before, they
would never mention that UFOs are real. And now they're
putting out so many stories to flood it to make
it seem like.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Once they realize suppression wasn't working anymore, they the script.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, absolutely so anyways, well I'm.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Going to look into the Smithsonian because those bastards can't
be trusted. Obviously they roped to some sheep.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
There you giants bitches.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
All right, we're gonna head over to the fire pit.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
I guess you know what's homed is you can't.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Guy a break. Okay, So this week's Firepit comes to
us from James. You guys know the drill. If you've
got a story, scary, funny, interesting, any good stories, send
him to Beyond the Shadows two O seven at gmail
dot com or submit him to any of our socials.
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So this one's called the Toughest Guy in School. Hey guys,
this is my firepit story. It's not a ghost story,
but kind of funny and all totally true. This happened
when I was a junior in high school. Now I
forget the guy's name, so I'll call him Bruno. Bruno
was also a junior and widely acknowledged as the toughest
guy in school. One of those guys were even the
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teachers knew he was the toughest guy in school. Bruno
and I were in the same PE class, but our
paths seldom crossed. Thus the school year passed peacefully until
late in the year when the PE activity that day
was baseball. I got in line for the baseball gloves
and picked the best that was left. Bruno wasn't pleased
about the glove gloves that were left, so he looked
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around and decided that he wanted the one that I had,
So he came to me and demanded the glove that
I had already picked. At this point, I can't explain
why I did what I did. Normally, I would just
give him the glove and grab one of the crappy
ones that were left. I mean, I knew that Bruno
was the toughest guy in school, and why should I
get beat up by the toughest guy in school for
a PE class baseball glove. But something snapped at that moment,
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and I told Bruno to get fucked. I was keeping
the glove. Bruno at that moment just stared at me.
Then he threw a tantrum, mostly I think because he
just couldn't believe I was standing up to him. I
pretty much couldn't believe it either. Still, I wouldn't back down.
Angry words continued until Bruno told me to meet him
behind the gym after class to beat to beat my ass.
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I was worked up now too, and told him that
I would be there and make sure he didn't wimp
out on me. The class ended, I went into the
locker room to shower. My friends came to me and
asked what I was going to do. I told them
I wasn't going to run away, so I was going
behind the gym to get my ass kicked by the
toughest guy in school. My friends nodded and glumly wandered
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off to their lockers, expecting doom. I showered and dressed slowly.
I was just above finished and ready to go ahead
behind the gym. Suddenly, Bruno walked up to me at
my locker with an embarrassed grin look. He said, it's
pretty stupid to fight over a glove. I said, shit,
you said, shit, why don't we just shake hands and
forget about it. Of course I smiled and agreed with him.
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We shook hands, and Bruno went off with one of
his friends. I sat in front of my locker and
not believing what had just happened, that I was going
home without a scratch. My friends, who were hiding in
the next row of lockers, came to me with their
mouse hanging open. I told them what we said to
each other, and we all went off, with me being
a hero in their eyes. The next day, word get
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out about the confrontation, and for the rest of the year,
I unexpectedly enjoyed an elevated social status at the school.
After all, if Bruno was the toughest guy in school,
surely I had to be the toughest guy in school.
One a pretty good for a guy who was only
five foot five and never noticed as a potential threat
to anyone before. That's my story. Hope you all enjoyed it. James,
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love it. I love it, absolutely love it. That's a
great example of the stories where we're talking about not paranormal.
It's just a great story.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
It is, and that's just and that exactly personifies how
it is when you stand up to a bully.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Like ninety nine point nine percent of bullys are not
looking to fight. They're looking to stand it down and
walk away looking on I don't want to fight.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Ninety percent of people don't want to fight. Lean Ryan.
We grew up scrappy. We fought a lot growing up
through time. But it never. It's never cool. You always
end up heart even if you win a fight. This
shit hurts.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
So you'll find that people don't fuck with you. If
it repretand is somebody that won't put up in the bullshit,
they won't bother you. Never never.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I have a story where I ordered something from a
What I ordered something from It was a lumberyard. It's
out of business now, but I ordered a bunch of
shit and when I called him to get it, they
had sold the stuff that I had already paid for
to somebody else, and I was fucking irate and I
went off on him on the phone. They got off,
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and then when I showed up at the store, they
sent out the manager. And I mean I had really
gone off on the dude, So they sent out this
dude and they did it on purpose. He was like
six foot seven, he was a fucking body belt. He
was the biggest dude I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
But then the Smithsonian came up.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
It destroyed him. It's roof that they were giants. He
was the biggest man I've ever seen in my life,
and he was fucking huge. He had been over three
hundred pounds. And I and he came out like got
anything to say now, And I it's too stupid to
not run my mouth, man, And I just couldn't help myself.
And I still ran my mouth and ran my mouth,
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and then they gave me my money back and I left,
But I did not. I wasn't backing down.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
You don't have a school yard. I would have ran
my mouth anyway, but you're the manager of the store.
You guys screwed me out.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Doesn't matter if I'm gonna get murdered or not. I
don't have it in me to just cave.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
We weren't raised that way, No, I really weren't.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
I just don't have it. I've almost died several times
from stupidity. That man probably would have snapped me in half.
But I wasn't backing down.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I'm not capable of tucking tailing water.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
No, it just doesn't happen, just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
James isn't either.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
No good for you.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
James handled it like a pro.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
So guys, if you got your stories, please get him
in Beyond the Shadows two o seven at gmail dot
com or any of our socials and we will catch
you in the next one later, guess
Speaker 2 (53:00):
M.
Hey, everybody, join us as we delve into our favorite
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Venture with us beyond the safe places that exist in daylight.
As we go Beyond the Shadows, true crime, paranormal hauntings, UFOs,
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Just a few of the topics that we will tackle.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
If it haunts your fucking dreams, then it will be
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Do you know what the most in the world is?
Beyond the shuttles where you found me at? You can't
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and then you see their cracks, all these creepy things
that you wind at track for the defense be where
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won't do you know what the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
In the world is?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hi, and welcome back to episode one hundred and forty
nine of Beyond the Shadows.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Welcome back Shadow people. You know. First off, I want
to thank Ryan for filling in last week. He stepped up.
Make sure you guys got an episode when there probably
wouldn't have been one, and I appreciate that. But I
had another issue in the family. My sister in law
passed away, so I had to make an emergency trip
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out to Nebraska. But we're back now. We're gonna having
computer issues.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, so summer hasn't got that much better.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
By any If you get this episode, it's a it's
a miracle, straight up. We are having issue after issue
after issue. We're hoping we've reached the bottom of all
the bad shit and we can turn this around. So
all right, Bud. Yeah, we wanted to say we got
a new review you from Anna Yo twenty two. Very
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nice review. We appreciate that. That puts us on the
US side at ninety six. We need four more to
bust that one hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
What if? What if we can do it this week?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Any chance I want to do don't make us go
make four new Apple accounts and get ready, because we'll
do it. We'll do it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
We got four new reviews from Ryan one, Ryan two.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
If you go all the way back, there's definitely one
in there from Beyond the Shadows.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So one of those is we didn't even we didn't
even hide it. It just says Beyond the Show says
we're doing our best, so technically we're at ninety five.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, no, no, it coms uh So.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We didn't write it down as part of our regular news,
which we're about to do, but uh, I think everybody's
seen the news this week is uh, basically, if you
if you're if you're gonna go out and cheat, don't
do it at a place with a fucking jumbo tron.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Coldplay just straight cold played that motherfucker. If you guys
haven't seen it. The jumbo tron at the Coldplay Gellette
Gellette at the Coldplay concert just totally dude just got
busted hard.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So they were doing like a kiss scam, if you
haven't seen it, and they were putting up like couples
and ship on the screen, and at one point Chris Martin,
the wead singer at Coldplay, is like, oh, look at
these two, and the two on the screen realize they're
on the screen. She covers her face and turns away,
and then the guy fucking like drops down like he's
trying to.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Get his face off, just drops like a rock.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And Chris Martin says, Oh, these tour are either cheating
or they're really shy, and he was right.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They were cheating as they are.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And guy's like a CEO of a big tech company
and she's his Like, I forget.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Her tight human resource basically run some weird ass title
they gave her some new modern day title.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Is the head of a head of HR. And you know,
correct me if I'm wrong, But doesn't HR always preach
no inter.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Office relationships pretty much their job. He's gonna have to
let her go.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Her credibilities pretty well shot. So she, from what I understand,
is divorced. She's no longer married, but he is very
much married, not to her. I doubt he's anymore because
I heard his wife changed her took his name off
of her name on Facebook this morning before canceling her
account altogether.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Soon he'll but she'll be taking his name off of
the uh the deed to the house.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I hope she takes him to the cleaners. What a moron?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, and didn't you say you heard that the guy
was a real asshole?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I did read under one thread world.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Was allegedly we don't want to get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I don't know anything about the guy. I read under
one thread that one former employees said, they're all loving
it because the guy was. He said he created a
toxic atmosphere and was basically an asshole. Those are my words,
not his, but that's what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah. So well, I guess you get what you get.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It comes around. Uh So elsewhere in the news we
get several drivers in Victorville, California, they called authorities this
past Sunday when they saw it looked like a creepy
teddy bear that was perhaps made of human skin. And
if you look at it.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's the creepy fucking teddy bear in my life.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Definitely looks like a teddy bear made of human skin.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And it's supposed to.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yes, So the creepy object was tracked down at a
gas station on Bear Valley Road. The creepy bear was
inspected by both a deputy corner and a forensic pathologist,
so they weren't fucking around, no, no, and they determined
that it was not made of human skin. It turns
out it was a piece of artwork created by Robert
Kelly at Dark Seed Creations and you can buy your
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own for one hundred and fifty bucks plus.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
If you're into creepy, morbid looking shit. It's it's that.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, it's an impressive piece.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It is, because it really looks like it's human skin.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What else would you think it was? If I saw
that thing and didn't have any other reference point, I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's like some serial killer shit for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
For real. Oh off of the record, you know how
they're supposed to be a New England serial killer going around.
There was a murder in Maine, up in Union and
they thought that it was related. But it turns out
just today they arrested a seventeen year old who it
was a woman who went on in her kayak and
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it looks like and she didn't come back, and it
looks like she was strangled. And they've arrested a seventeen
year old kid that's here on vacation, comes here every summer.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
So I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
In Yeah, I just saw that tonight on the news.
So not really more than likely not related to the
New England serials they were linking it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
News gets creepier every day it does. The purpse could
be male, female, twelve, seventy ninety. It doesn't matter anymore,
not at all. Everybody is capable of being an absolute
monster these days. Absolutely, turn on the news is depressing.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So what else we gotten the news? Pick it back up?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Speaking of the news, you know where we're going Florida.
We have another really intelligent criminal. So a guy walks
into a Low's in Flagler County and he attempts to
steal fifteen hundred dollars worth of shit. He's quickly noticed
by store staff and he just end its the item,
so he just boots. So apparently his plan didn't include
people noticing him, not.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Running for trying to off with fifteen worth of shit.
They fucked me, you know, because of these idiots at Lows.
You can't go in Lows without everything being wrapped in
an alarm. I know, you walk through Low's, we set
off three or four of them every time I me
and my son just run.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
They never they never shut him off when I go out.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh, they're constantly going off.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I guess I have to pay for it.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, apparently they don't stop going off in the parking
lot down to my house.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So his plan didn't account for getting spotted, not paying
for the goods. It also didn't account for a getaway
vehicle because he didn't have one. Yo, he's his on foot,
So he flees the store and hops onto the back
of passing ups truck. The driver makes it a couple
of miles down the road before he spots the guy,
pulls over and orders him off. The guy does get off.
Cops show up and arrest him, thirty one year old
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Michael Diversa. So he's been charged with the shoplifting grand theft.
I've never heard of that world, but.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Dude, those places, those box stores like that have been
getting ripped off huge. That's why there's alarms on everything.
People do like it. I mean a power tool, You
grab a power tool and walk. You're talking like five
six hundred bucks or some of them.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know, Well he tried it, yep, what's had three
of them. So he was booked in a Flagler County
jail on a fifteen thousand dollars bond. So July fifth,
we've got a man from Paris. He leaves for a
long vacation with his wife and his daughter. They're going
to Morocco. So they stopped for is a long drive.
They stopped for gas, meals, bathroom breaks, all that, and
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they'll make a pretty good time. So at nighttime they
stop at a gas station real quick, and then they
continue on their journey. The man can't shake the feel
that he forgot something.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
What did I forget?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So after no, I'm forgetting something, four hours of driving
in one hundred and eighty six miles, he finally figures
out what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh fuck, it's Marsha. He forgot his wife.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, it's like five minutes down the road. It's one
hundred and eighty six miles. I don't buy for it.
No way that he forgot.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
She was driving his ass crazy. He he only went
back because he had to.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
He's like four hours away. He's like, fuck, I don't
know the Netflix password. Yeah, damn it, she's got my
Jersey micro car.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It was one sandwich away. So he calls the costs.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
At this point, he probably decides to call the cops
before she finds him. You know, he needs to find
her before she finds him. He's got to realize she's
fucking up. So he calls the costs. But when he
goes to get help, he can't even quote remember what
gas station she's at. He has no idea even what
town they were, and let alone what gas station.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
No, I mean, I guess if you're driving across car
I just did it, drove across the country. I ninety
percent of time had no idea where I was.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, but you came home with your wife.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I came home, Yeah, I didn't leave, whether when I
came back, whether I had left her out there.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So the cops eventually track her down, but they really
had to search because he didn't have any clue.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Isis he was? But I don't get his How does
she not call him?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I don't know. They didn't say anything about cell phones.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And no what what day and age is this?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, it's possible she get out to go to the
bathroom and they just stopped to take a leak.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She had the phone didn't bring.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So she'd been sitting there since four thirty in the
morning when the cops finally tracked her down. So she
was there for a long time. She's sitting on the curb.
She must have been fucking shit.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I'm like, can you life slight her to me? I
really don't want to go all the way back. As
soon as he got three sixty miles round trip home.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
He ordered himself a flesh legs.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
He's gonna need it. He won't forget that at guess.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Lastly, we get the Haunted Annabel though made famous by
the Conjuring movies and all the various spin offs. So
the doll was out on tour in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, when
her curse may have struck again. Lead investigator Dan Rivera
of the New England Society for Psychic Research was one
of two men in charge of handling the haunted doll
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while on tour. So in the middle of the night
for US responders were called to a local hotel about Rivera,
but they were unable to save his life, and as
of yet, no cause of death has been revealed.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Annabell's actually scheduled. I don't know if the tour is
going to continue, but she's supposed to be in Maine
here in a couple of weeks. Yeah, that's one of
the stops on the tour coming.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Up where she kept normally, if it's in New England.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
She I don't know where her permanent home is now.
She was at the Warren's house in their museum Warrens
in Monroe, Kentucky, Kentucky. Excuse me, in Monroe, Connecticut, Connecticut,
when Lorraine Warren passed away in twenty nineteen the museum.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh, I bet I know where she is. The other
guy has a Baggins No, no, no, there's a guy
that Baggins stole his idea from that. We talked about
him before. I talked about him in a few episodes. Uh,
it's like his nephew. Oh yeah, Warren's nephew. He was
on he had a show on uh Discovery or something.
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I can't remember his name right and stuff. Yeah, I
think he has it. I think he wants it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So a lot of the stuff might still be in
the museum. That's just not open to the public anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So, right, I go check a rev Yeah, I don't know.
It's interesting. They had like a replica at the Conjuring
House they did there, But I mean, all it is
is a raggedy hand doll. You know, they could say
it's the legit one. How then are you gonna know?
I wouldn't know the difference. I didn't even know it
was a raggedy nd until I saw it. Oh, it's
just raggedy. Ann I had one of those.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Still does I still do. So that's it for the
news this week. What do you get for us?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Something different? I am going to talk about giants.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
All right, that's it. It's a puzzle book. I think,
what the fuck I waited all for giants? All right
with giants?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Do you know what in the world is.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All right? As Ryan seemed real excited about giants waiting
for this one, let me check.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We need to know to thank for this.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Nobody requests no one, not one. This is what you
get for not requesting it. So every culture has them,
stories of being so big that they could crush a
house with one step. They're carved into the oldest tales
like they're part of our bones. In Norse mythology, the
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jot gnar, I'm gonna have all kinds of stuff I
can't pronounce in this one. So buckle up, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
That's what they do.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So you've been waiting for or the Frost Giant. They
weren't just big guys with bad attitudes. They were chaos
itself born and the primal void, shaping mountains with their
fists and waging wars against the gods. So picture Weimer,
the first giant, supposedly so massive his body became the
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Earth when he fell across the sea. The Greeks had
their titans, like Prometheus, who towered over mortals, stealing fires
from the heaven even closer to home. Native American tribes
like the Paiute of Nevada. And I know I got
that one right because I had Groc tell me how
to say it, because they could not work it out.
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Spoke of the Sitka, which were red haired giants who
roamed the desert, fierce and cannibalistic enemies of the people.
But these weren't just fairy tales. They're warnings and things
about things too big to fight, too wild to tame.
What's creepy is how these stories align. Giants are always
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tied to the untame mountains, forest and places where humans
feel small. The Celts had the for Morians, seaborn monsters
with one eye and one leg guarding Ireland's wild shores.
The Bible talked of Goliath, a warrior that was nine
feet tall, and of the Nephelin, the sons of God
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who walked the earth before the flood, just different names.
Why do we keep telling these stories? Is it just
fear of the unknown, or did our ancestors see something,
something real that left these echoes. I'm not saying that
every myth is like a news report, but when every
corner of the world has its own giants story, you
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start to wonder what were they seeing. So I mean,
if you look through history, you're seeing all these stories
of giants. You know, it's not like one or two.
They come up over and over and over again. So
you get to look what we found out there was.
So before we thought humans just evolved, and now we're
seeing there was how many different types of humans along
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in the way. We know that there were small, small
humans that were basically hobbits, you know, giants. Why why
not giants?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Well, yeah, it gives the more credibility when it's coming
from all different areas of the globe, different civilizations, different
time periods, when they're all coming up with the same story,
when they couldn't possibly have met each other, it's definitely
get more credibility.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Right exactly, And it's not one place. We're going to
talk about a few different ones. But first off, we're
gonna talk about the Onanaki, which could be an episode
in itself. I mean, at some point I'll probably really
dig into the on Aanaki, but we'll look a little
deeper into this. So this is where the line between
myth and reality gets kind of blurry enough to make
your skin crawl. We're talking about giants, and we talked
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about giants and folklore, you know, like I said, the
North Jottnar, the Titans, the Payuts. But what if some
of these monstrous men weren't just stories. What if they're
tied to something or someone that came from beyond earth.
That's where the Ononaki come in. That name can send
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chills down the spine of anyone who dug into ancient mysteries.
If you've really dug in, you've heard of the Onanaki.
These beings, described in Samerian texts from over four thousand
years ago, are said to be gods from the stars,
and some say they might be the key to why
giants walk the earth. The Samarian Samerians, one of the
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oldest civilizations in Mesitope, Mesopotamia. Boom Took a Minute wrote
about the Onanaki on klay tablets, stories etched in stone
that felt like they belonged in a sci fi horrorflic.
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They called them gods who descended from the heavens, powerful
beings who shaped humanity itself. The Enuma and Elish, their
creation epic described the Onanaki as other worldly rulers, sometimes
depicted as towering figures with knowledge far beyond mortal reach.
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They weren't just tall tails. The Samarians believe these beings
came from a place called Nabiu. Have you heard of this?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think so, since familiar.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
A mysterious planet that some claim orbit beyond our site.
So if you heard there's a planet, they said planet X,
planet nine, which we thought we had nine before.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Biro and planet X are the same or no.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
A lot of people believe that Naberu is one of
the planets in our solar system that's on a weird
orbit that comes around like so many. I don't. I'll
dig into it when I go look at the Onanaki,
but there is when they do their calculations in our
are our solar system. They truly believe that there is
a planet out there, ninth planet that we haven't discovered
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by Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think Neptune is getting rocked on its axis somehow
doing it. So they think there's something huge that we
can't see right and maybe it orbits Earth like top
to bottom rather than side.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
In a different orbit. Yeah. Yeah, So, and that's one
a lot of people believe is the is the one
I was speaking of the Biru yep Yes, a mysterious planet.
Some claim orbit beyond our site. Now here's where it
gets eerie. These tablets talk about the Onanaki experimenting with
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early humans, mixing their essence with ours to create workers
for their cosmic agenda, mining, gold, building cities, you name it.
But what if they created something else, something bigger. Fast
forward to the Bible and you'll find in the Book
of Genesis, chapter six, Nephialum, those sons of God who
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came down and took human women, giving birth to mighty
men of old is what they call the men of
the renown. The word Nephlum is often translated as giants.
Some researchers, like Zachariah Sitchens, who studied the Samerian text,
argued that these sons of God were the Ananaki, and
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their offspring were no ordinary humans, but high bred beings,
half human, half god, with unnatural height and strength, roaming
the earth like living legends. The Book of Enoch, in
ancient texts left out of the Bible, goes further, describing
these giants as monstrous, some standing thirty feet tall, devouring
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crops and terrifying tribes. Were these Ananaki creations or mistakes?
So the uh that book actually exists, It's not a
the Book of Enoch A lot of people thought should
be part of the Bible, but it wasn't included and
it doesn't it mentions all of this stuff. This is
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where a lot of people get their info on the
Onanaki out of the Book of Enoch. So stories of
these giants don't just stay in ancient text. Across the world,
from Mesopotamia to the to Americas, you find whispers of
gods and their oversized kin. The paiut I mentioned earlier
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had their their me Sitacan. The giants with the red
hair and massive frames would fit the profile for these hybrids,
especially since the legends don't just talk of giants, but
of beings who came from elsewhere. Even today, you'll find
posts on x from folks claiming ancient ruins like the
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massive stones of Balbec and Lebanon were built built by
or four beings far bigger than us, maybe under Ananaki guidance,
but there's no hard proof. There's no alien DNA in
the museum case. But when you stand in the shadow
of these impossible stones or read about bones too big
for a human. You can't help, but wonder did the
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Onanaki leave giants in their wake? So we'll head over
to the Lovelock Cave in Nevada. In the Nevada Desert,
about twenty miles south of the town of Lovelock. Back
in nineteen eleven, miners were digging for batguano. You know
what bad iguana is, right, bad shit. They used it
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for fertilizer. They use it for explosives. They used it.
Remember in the I think they're mining for it, young Guns,
the first young Guns. You remember that.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I remember the movie. I don't remember it.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Anyways. Yeah, they in that movie they were mining. They
used it for it was supposedly, I mean, it's shit,
it's great fertilizer. Yeah, But when the miners were digging
for that, they hit something strange. Bones, big ones, not
just animal bones, but skulls and femurs that look human
only a little wrong, too large. The story goes that
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they found skeletons measuring seven, eight, even ten feet tall,
some with red hair, just like the Piute legend. The
Piute said that the giants were their enemies, driven into
Lovelock Cave thousands of years ago. And burned out in
a final desperate battle. So apparently over time they said
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that these giants tormented them, they would eat they would
actually eat the men. They would capture them, kill them
and eat them. They were I don't know, does that
making cannibals If they're giants, I guess they're human, So
I guess it makes the cannibals different species. But supposedly
they drove them all into this cave at or they are.
The cave is where they were a lot of times.
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But they lit it up and burned them and killed
them off. That's how they killed them off. The miners
just discovery seemed to back it up too. There were
jawbones twice the size of a man's and other strange
artifacts and massive tools. Archaeologists has got involved in nineteen
twelve and again in nineteen twenty four, led by a
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guy named Llewellyn Loud from the University of California. They
cataloged oversized remains, including a skull that suggested a height
of over seven feet. How tall was Andre the giant?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think he was over seven foot was he? He
was fucking huge.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And he had a skull that you would have looked
at like what he had elpan Titus.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Though, didn't he No, not elfin Titis, but.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, not no giant yeahiet yeah, not elfent Titus. That's
when you look like the eleven Man. The Lovelock Review Minor,
a local paper, ran wild with it, claiming giant skeletons
were proof of ancient Titans. Some artifacts, like oversized sandals
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and woven mats, ended up in museums like the Nevada
State Museum. But here's where it gets a little murky.
A lot of the bones disappeared. Some say they were mishandled.
Others whispered that they were hidden, maybe because they challenged
what we think we know. By the nineteen thirties, mainstream
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science was calling it a hoax or exaggeration, saying the
bones were just big humans or misidentified megafauna like mammoth femurs.
But the Payute never wavered. Their oral history passed down
from generation insisted they were real and the cave was
their tomb. Stand in love Luck Cave today and you
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could feel it. The air is heavy, the walls blackened
from ancient fire, so you can see there was the
caves are burned. Inside, there was definitely a fire, which
kind of backs up the It backs up the story,
but was a giants?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, I hate it when the evidence that could prove
it just disappeared. It happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You're gonna get into it a little bit, because that's
why what you think you're hearing all the time. If
you look through some of this history, that they found
giant bones all over the place, especially here in America,
and every time somebody's involved, the same people are involved
every time. When this stuff does go missing, I'll talk
about it in a little bit. Locals still talk about
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strange lights in the desert or heavy steps heard at night,
and nineteen eighty four geologists claim to find a jawbone
buried near the cave, too big for any normal human,
but it vanished before it could be studied. Coincidence or
was it on the Epstein list? Never finding that shit
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or something someone didn't want to want us to see it.
I'm not saying it's proved, but when you've got an
ancient stories, newspaper reports, and missing evidence all points to
giants in the same same part of Nevada, it's enough
to make you wonder what's buried out there waiting to
be dug up. We've reade this part three times, fuck
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up even more than normal that we can't even keep it. Oh,
fuck it whatever, So we're gonna go to Serparent Mound
in Ohio. You get a picture of a massive, sinuous
shaped carved into the earth, one three hundred and forty
eight feet long, coiled through the hills of the Adam
County like a snake ready to strike. It's a large
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effigy mound, the largest effigy mound in the world, built
hands we can't quite name, and when you stand on
his curve under a gray sky, there feels stick again,
while something watching from the trees. The mound's been there
for centuries, maybe over a thousand years, and some say
it's a monument to giants beginning excuse me, beings who
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walk these lands before us, their shadows etched into the dirt.
The Serparent Mound is tied to the Adena culture, who
thrived around a thousand BC or maybe the late fort ancient.
But fuck so back.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
One hour.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
We're gonna leave it, so they gotta get worse from here, guys.
So Serparent Mound is tied to the Dina culture, who
thrived around a thousand BC or maybe the later for
four ancient people around a thousand CE. Archaeologists aren't sure
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who built it, but they know it's no random pile
of dirt. Have you seen it? This serpent mound. It
looks like a snake going through the It's huge. You know,
we don't realize how much of this stuff we actually
have here in the United States. Most people are just oblivious.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, a lot of times. It's a shit that you
can always see from the.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Air, though, and this is one of those things that
it's if you're down on it, you can't tell what
it is, but from above you certainly can. Or if
you're a giant. Now, this snake with this open jaw
swallowing what looks like an egg or maybe a cosmic portal,
that's what some people believe. So it is a line,
(29:52):
making it a calendar for the stars. So it's got
the celestial I can't I can't even go there. Fucking
we get what you're shooting. Yeah, it's the calendar. Word.
The hotel is Shawnee, whose ancestors roamed these lands, told
(30:15):
the story of giant beings, not just tall men, but
guardians of sacred places. Some of the oral traditions passed
down through smokey council fires, speak of the great ones
who shape the land, piling earth into shapes. Only gods
or giants could dream up the mounds. Scale alone makes
you wonder who had this strength, the vision to sculpe
(30:37):
a serpent. You can only see from the sky, So
once again, I mean, that's like the Nasca lines. You
can only see those from an airplane.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, And then you wonder why why do it?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yea yeah, And they keep finding more and more of those.
So in nineteenth centuries, when settlers started digging around the mounds,
they found burials, skeletons reportedly oversized with skulls, and femurs
too big for ordinary human. Newspapers from the eighteen eighties
(31:08):
like the Cincinnati Enquirer ran stories of giant bones unearthed nearby,
some claiming heights of seven or eight feet. But were
they exaggerating maybe? But the Ohio Historical Society documented finds
of unusually large remains in nearby mounds, though many were
(31:29):
lost to time, just like the Lovelock Caves. The locals
still talk about the strange figures seen near the mounds
at dust. They always have these these stories, you know,
like they're still around, and obviously that's not the case.
But the Shawnee spoke of a serpent spirit, a protector,
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but also of beings who battled it, giants who left
their mark in the earth before fading into legend. Could
be a tribute to them or a warning if someone
somewhere doesn't want us to know about giants. Picture this
a dusty archive room locked away in the heart of Washington,
d C. Where the Smithsonian Institute, the beacon of science
(32:16):
and history, holds relics of the past. But what if
they're hiding something. What if the bones of giants, real
towering beings were dug up across America, only to vanish
into their valls, never to be seen again. That's the
whisper that keeps creeping through the cracks of history over
the centuries. So what they've time and time again is
(32:39):
what they're saying, is people from the Smithsonian have taken
these bones to study them, and then these bones are
just never seen again. So why, you know, I mean,
are they trying to cover up just because it doesn't
go with the history that we believe? Why would they
do it? You know, I mean, forever they didn't even
(33:00):
want us to believe that they were other types of humans.
So I mean I could see it to an extent.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, back when religion and science were at odds, right,
which they probably are.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But no, it's way less now.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
The Church can't control the narrative anymore yet.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Right. So, back in the nineteenth and the twentieth centuries,
newspapers were buzzing with stories oversized skeletons unearthed across the
whole United States, seven to eight, sometimes even ten feet tall,
found in mounds, caves, and river beds. The New York
Times in eighteen ninety seven reported a nine foot skeleton
in Wisconsin. The San Antonio Express in the nineteen hundreds
(33:38):
described a giant skull from Texas. They weren't just tall tales.
They were detailed accounts and often tied to digs by farmers, miners,
or early archaeologists. And here's where the Smithsonian enters the story.
Many of these reports mentioned the institution taking custody of
the fines creates shipped off for studying, never to return
(34:03):
the American antiquities. I can get antiquities right, but I
can't get fuck it. I can't get society right. Records
from the eighteen eighties note the Smithsonian agents collecting unusually
large remains from the Ohio Mounds near where the Serpent
(34:23):
Mound coils were. Yet, when researchers today asked to see
those bones, that met with silence or claims the artifacts
were lost or misidentified as animal remains. And I could
see that some of them would mean there were mammoth
bones and stuff like that. But nowadays it's pretty easy,
and I'm sure that it's pretty easy for them to
(34:43):
tell the difference between a human bone and a mammoth bone.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I would think in ninety how much of a scientist
if you can't tell right, I don't know it's a bone.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It could be anything. In nineteen ninety three, a researcher
name Vine Dolora Junior, a Native American scholar, wrote about
a pattern giant skeletons reported Smithsonian involved evidence gone. He
pointed into letters from the eighteen hundreds where Smithsonians curators
(35:18):
dismiss giant bones as exaggerations without publishing any studies. They
would just straight up say, oh no, they're just exaggerating.
But no studies of the bones or anything like that
were ever shown. Some say the institution tied to the government,
had a motive to keep the history tidy, to bury
anything that didn't fit into the narrative of human evolution.
(35:41):
Why maybe giants challenged scientific dogma, or hinted at truce
like ancient visitors, or lost races, something that was too
wild for the textbooks back in the days. But to
this day, post on acts still circulate stories of whistleblowers,
like a sad supposed nineteen twenty Smithsonian worker who claimed
(36:04):
crates of oversized bones were destroyed or locked in restricted vaults.
There's no hard proof, of course, just enough smoke to
make you wonder about the fire stand in the shadows
of the Smithsonian National Museum today and you can't help
but feel it a weight, like the history hiding something
too big to explain. And I don't there's obviously stuff
(36:27):
that has been hidden away. Yeah, but for it has
to be for the purpose of trying to keep a narrative.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, I don't understand what the narrative would be on it.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I think for this it would have to be religious
or if people would link something I don't know. You can't.
I don't know how that you could link a giant
other than what I said with the Yanaki. Like a
regular person who doesn't know about that, you're just going
to think, Hey, back in the day there were giants.
It was just people that were bigger there. I mean,
if you're a religious person, they're in the text, Ziliath
(37:00):
was mentioned.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know, it almost had to be the church. Who
else would have the motive if there was a cover
up of a sport.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Though I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
It doesn't make a lot of sense for me of
them to them have for science to be hiding the
giants doesn't make.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Well, no, it really doesn't. Deep in the heart of
the Mediterranean, though, on the island of Malta there's whispers
of giants. Malta has its own legends of colossal beings.
This tiny island, barely a speck on the map, holds
some of the oldest structures known to humanity, Megalithic temples
(37:35):
like Gargantua, built between three thousand, six hundred and thirty
two hundred BC, long before the Egyptian Pyramids or Stonehenge.
But these aren't just piles of rock, massive limestone slabs,
some weighing over fifty tons, stands stacked in eerie precision,
(37:55):
as if placed by hands way larger than our own.
Call it Gargantua for a reason. The Maltese word gargant
means giant, and the stories say these temples were the
work of a race of titans who once ruled the island,
the legend of the Sansuna. At the legend of Sansuna,
(38:20):
a giantess with unimaginable strength exists in multi folklore. She
was no mere mortal, they say, a towering figure who
could cradle boulders like pebbles, building Gargansian's walls to honor gods,
or perhaps to warn intruetruders of her power. But Sansuna
wasn't alone. Stories speak of an entire race of giants.
(38:45):
They were the protectors of sacred knowledge or something far
more sinister. Watching from the edge of time. Archaeologists only
only deepen the questions. Excavations around Gargantua and other sites
have uncovered artifacts that don't quite fit. Tools too large
for human hands, doorways scaled for beings well over seven
(39:06):
feet tall, and altars positioned meant as if meant for
giants to kneel before them. In the early twentieth century,
diggers stumbled upon bones, skulls too massive, limbs too long,
skeletons that seemed to defy human proportions. Locals swore that
(39:27):
these were remains of the ancient giants, but the finds
vanished into the fog history, once again misplaced, mislabeled, or
dare we say, deliberately hidden. Mainstream scholars dismissed them as
animal bones, perhaps from Malta's extinct dwarf, elephants or hippos. Yet,
(39:48):
standing among the weathered stones of Gargantua, feeling the weight
of the impossible mass, the official story feels hollow. Something
doesn't add up the what is this? Hal hippo, I
can't say this here? Help me with this.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
One, hypergum?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
This is a sub a subterranean labyrinth and cave which
is carved into solid rock about the same time as
the temples were. But this isn't just a cave. It's
a three level maze of chambers spiraling downwards. Discovered in
nineteen oh two, it held thousands of human remains, some
(40:36):
with skulls that defied explanations. So this is where they
found the skulls. Some of them were elongated. You remember
the elongated skulls almost alien in shape. There is something
beyond human strangers still are the tails of the sealed tunnels,
stretching deeper into the earth, where workers claimed to hear faint,
(40:57):
unnatural sounds like rumbles and breathing or something massive. But
it says it was a sanctuary for the giants, a
place where they commune. Others whispered it was a prison,
locking away something that should never see the light. The
giants of Malta resonate with the Onanaki threads we've unraveled before.
(41:20):
Fringe theorists echo the echoing. The likes of Zachariah Sitchens
point to Malta as a nexus of ancient extraterrestrial activity.
And I mean, if you've seen those skulls they can wrap,
you've seen where they wrap the stuff to deform the skulls.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
That's what a lot of them look like. But were
they doing and that's more than likely what they were,
But were they doing it to look like something else, Like, say,
there was something there that had the elongated skull. Were
they trying to.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Emulate something emulate that?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I mean, that's what it's always seemed like. To me,
not like that they were actual aliens, but they were
trying to look like something they'd seen.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Before as possible, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
So that chamber of it also amplified whispers into echoes,
which suggested knowledge far beyond what a small island culture
should know. It was like an amphitheater in there, and
I mean a a small island like this. They didn't
know how to do that kind of or they shouldn't
know how to do that kind of stuff back in
this time. So you wonder, could the giants have been
(42:29):
hybrids crafted from the Onanaki to serve as builders or sentinels.
Where these temples cosmic outposts linking Earth to distant stars.
The idea isn't as wild as it sounds when you
consider the the global echo of giant lore from Lovelock
red hair Titans to the Nephilum of the Bible. Skeptics,
(42:52):
of course, have their answers, rollers and levers, That's what
they say. Move the stones. The giant are just fossils,
and their oversized tools are symbolic, not practical. But walk
the path of Malta at dusk where the temples are,
and your logical waiver, Why do so many cultures speak
(43:13):
of giants. Why do Malta stones older than history itself
feel like they're hiding the truth? Giants? All right?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
So what do you think Do giants exist? And I
don't mean like slightly oversized humans, Like even today you've
got the random eight foot person or close to eight
foot that's not a giant. This is a kind of
an outlier.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Do I think back in the day there's a possibility
that there were giants? Yeah, I think there possibly was.
When stuff pops up in the text so many times,
you can usually explain it away one or two stories
or whatever. And I don't know that people. I don't
know that they actually the Smithsonian actually snatched these things
up and hit them. There's a lot of stories that
(43:58):
were popping up all over the country, all over the
United States. Those articles aren't fake, those are real articles.
The news articles all existed. They were out there looking
and finding different stuff. Was it all bullshit? I don't know.
It doesn't seem like it would all be. But I
have a really hard time thinking the Smithsonian's going around
snatching up stuff to hide it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Though back in the day, I don't think they even
had the resources to be running all around, snatching shit up,
ninding it.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
But there is. But see, then I get the question, like,
there's definitely something going on in the Grand Canyon. There's
parts of the Grand Canyon that people aren't allowed to go.
They're blocked off from it, and it's something that we
should look at for doing the story. But and they
don't allow them to go there. And people said forever
that they've found Egyptian type things that were it was
(44:44):
documented being found there early on, and then now nobody's
allowed there. So I mean, there's there's different things that
you see where they've stopped you from at least even looking. Yeah,
you know, and that's just makes you question it even
more so. Do I I believe that there was giants.
It's a good possibility that there were people that a
race that was way bigger. Now I don't mean like
(45:06):
giant giant. I don't believe that there was thirty footers,
but seven or eight isn't that crazy? No, you know,
you're talking if they were if they were true hobbits,
which were three or four feet, and then the average
person what five to six feet? Is it crazy to
think that there was another maybe Neanderthals I mean, they
(45:27):
were a little bit larger, but you know, is it
crazy to think that was another thing of humans that
were seven eight feet tall?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
It's not that not that far fetchal.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
It's really not so the fact that the Smithsonian's cover
them up. That's a little more far fetched, but the
fact that they but the fact that they existed not really.
We're finding stuff all the time, you know, we're finding
different types of human beings and stuff like that all
the time, and finding out they existed at the same time.
(46:00):
It truly was the lord of the rings.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Science has always reinvented itself, which is basically the whole
born of science, right, continue to look until you get
it right and then reanalyze and see it from another perspective.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
But when you do stories like this, it's like they're
trying to you. The idea is that they're trying to
suppress the science so that the religion can remain. And
maybe that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I think. Sometimes they're trying to suppress and other times
they flood it with so much shit you can't tell
what's what.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Well, that's the government for sure. That's the UFOs.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Either withhold information or drop so much information you can't
tell what's what it means?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
So much shit that and that's what they do with UFOs. Yeah,
like right now, if you look at time before, they
would never mention that UFOs are real. And now they're
putting out so many stories to flood it to make
it seem like.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Once they realize suppression wasn't working anymore, they the script.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, absolutely so anyways, well I'm.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Going to look into the Smithsonian because those bastards can't
be trusted. Obviously they roped to some sheep.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
There you giants bitches.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
All right, we're gonna head over to the fire pit.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
I guess you know what's homed is you can't.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Guy a break. Okay, So this week's Firepit comes to
us from James. You guys know the drill. If you've
got a story, scary, funny, interesting, any good stories, send
him to Beyond the Shadows two O seven at gmail
dot com or submit him to any of our socials.
(47:34):
So this one's called the Toughest Guy in School. Hey guys,
this is my firepit story. It's not a ghost story,
but kind of funny and all totally true. This happened
when I was a junior in high school. Now I
forget the guy's name, so I'll call him Bruno. Bruno
was also a junior and widely acknowledged as the toughest
guy in school. One of those guys were even the
(47:55):
teachers knew he was the toughest guy in school. Bruno
and I were in the same PE class, but our
paths seldom crossed. Thus the school year passed peacefully until
late in the year when the PE activity that day
was baseball. I got in line for the baseball gloves
and picked the best that was left. Bruno wasn't pleased
about the glove gloves that were left, so he looked
(48:16):
around and decided that he wanted the one that I had,
So he came to me and demanded the glove that
I had already picked. At this point, I can't explain
why I did what I did. Normally, I would just
give him the glove and grab one of the crappy
ones that were left. I mean, I knew that Bruno
was the toughest guy in school, and why should I
get beat up by the toughest guy in school for
a PE class baseball glove. But something snapped at that moment,
(48:39):
and I told Bruno to get fucked. I was keeping
the glove. Bruno at that moment just stared at me.
Then he threw a tantrum, mostly I think because he
just couldn't believe I was standing up to him. I
pretty much couldn't believe it either. Still, I wouldn't back down.
Angry words continued until Bruno told me to meet him
behind the gym after class to beat to beat my ass.
(49:02):
I was worked up now too, and told him that
I would be there and make sure he didn't wimp
out on me. The class ended, I went into the
locker room to shower. My friends came to me and
asked what I was going to do. I told them
I wasn't going to run away, so I was going
behind the gym to get my ass kicked by the
toughest guy in school. My friends nodded and glumly wandered
(49:24):
off to their lockers, expecting doom. I showered and dressed slowly.
I was just above finished and ready to go ahead
behind the gym. Suddenly, Bruno walked up to me at
my locker with an embarrassed grin look. He said, it's
pretty stupid to fight over a glove. I said, shit,
you said, shit, why don't we just shake hands and
forget about it. Of course I smiled and agreed with him.
(49:46):
We shook hands, and Bruno went off with one of
his friends. I sat in front of my locker and
not believing what had just happened, that I was going
home without a scratch. My friends, who were hiding in
the next row of lockers, came to me with their
mouse hanging open. I told them what we said to
each other, and we all went off, with me being
a hero in their eyes. The next day, word get
(50:09):
out about the confrontation, and for the rest of the year,
I unexpectedly enjoyed an elevated social status at the school.
After all, if Bruno was the toughest guy in school,
surely I had to be the toughest guy in school.
One a pretty good for a guy who was only
five foot five and never noticed as a potential threat
to anyone before. That's my story. Hope you all enjoyed it. James,
(50:33):
love it. I love it, absolutely love it. That's a
great example of the stories where we're talking about not paranormal.
It's just a great story.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
It is, and that's just and that exactly personifies how
it is when you stand up to a bully.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Like ninety nine point nine percent of bullys are not
looking to fight. They're looking to stand it down and
walk away looking on I don't want to fight.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Ninety percent of people don't want to fight. Lean Ryan.
We grew up scrappy. We fought a lot growing up
through time. But it never. It's never cool. You always
end up heart even if you win a fight. This
shit hurts.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
So you'll find that people don't fuck with you. If
it repretand is somebody that won't put up in the bullshit,
they won't bother you. Never never.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I have a story where I ordered something from a
What I ordered something from It was a lumberyard. It's
out of business now, but I ordered a bunch of
shit and when I called him to get it, they
had sold the stuff that I had already paid for
to somebody else, and I was fucking irate and I
went off on him on the phone. They got off,
(51:29):
and then when I showed up at the store, they
sent out the manager. And I mean I had really
gone off on the dude, So they sent out this
dude and they did it on purpose. He was like
six foot seven, he was a fucking body belt. He
was the biggest dude I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
But then the Smithsonian came up.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
It destroyed him. It's roof that they were giants. He
was the biggest man I've ever seen in my life,
and he was fucking huge. He had been over three
hundred pounds. And I and he came out like got
anything to say now, And I it's too stupid to
not run my mouth, man, And I just couldn't help myself.
And I still ran my mouth and ran my mouth,
(52:10):
and then they gave me my money back and I left,
But I did not. I wasn't backing down.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
You don't have a school yard. I would have ran
my mouth anyway, but you're the manager of the store.
You guys screwed me out.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Doesn't matter if I'm gonna get murdered or not. I
don't have it in me to just cave.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
We weren't raised that way, No, I really weren't.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
I just don't have it. I've almost died several times
from stupidity. That man probably would have snapped me in half.
But I wasn't backing down.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I'm not capable of tucking tailing water.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
No, it just doesn't happen, just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
James isn't either.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
No good for you.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
James handled it like a pro.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
So guys, if you got your stories, please get him
in Beyond the Shadows two o seven at gmail dot
com or any of our socials and we will catch
you in the next one later, guess
Speaker 2 (53:00):
M.
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