August 1, 2025 • 55 mins
What happens when we come face to face with death—only to return with incredible stories? In this episode, we explore the mysterious and often life-changing phenomenon of near-death experiences (NDEs). From people who claim to have seen the afterlife to those who encountered shadowy figures, tunnels of light, or even messages from beyond, these firsthand accounts challenge everything we think we know about life and death. Are NDEs proof of an afterlife, or can science explain these eerie encounters? Join us as we dive into chilling stories, expert insights, and the deeper questions surrounding the unknown.
Astral Projection
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- Near-Death Experience (NDE)
- Afterlife
- Out-of-Body Experience
- Life After Death
- Paranormal Phenomena
- Supernatural Encounters
- Death and Dying
- Spiritual Awakening
- Tunnel of Light
- Consciousness
- Reincarnation
Astral Projection
Ghost Stories
- Paranormal Podcast
- True Stories of the Afterlife
- Heaven and Hell
- Shadow Figures
- Science vs Spirituality
- Medical Miracles
- Beyond the Veil
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, join us as we delve into our favorite
dark tales and paranormal mysteries.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Venture with us beyond the safe places that exist in daylight.
As we go Beyond the Shadows, true crime, paranormal hauntings, UFOs,
cryptids and unsolved mysteries, conspiracy theories, past lives, reincarnation and
all the like are.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Just a few of the topics that we will tackle.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
If it haunts your fucking dreams, then it will be
on our show.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Do you know what the most in the world is?
Beyond the shuttles where you found me at you can't
see me in the deepest blacks when your heart starbus
and then you see their cracks, all these creepy things
that you why they track well, the defense be where
the actions as so this enough you want it, UFOs,
all the ghosts.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We got everything that you want.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It won't do you know what the most in the
world is? Hi, guys, and welcome back to episode one
hundred and fifty one of Beyond the Shadows.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Welcome back Shadow people. Very first thing we want to
thank Carrot Door. Carrot Door. I think Carrot Door gave
us a five star rating and review said it's good.
We appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I like that it's brief and to the point, that's
all we need.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
We did get a couple of new ratings on Spotify too,
We appreciate those. We wish we could tell you thank
whoever it is, but we don't get to see who
actually rated us over there.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But thank thank you guys for taking the time. We
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
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to do that, we know we've harped on you a lot,
but if you haven't had a chance to do that,
please go rate us. If you give us a five star,
give us a review, or whatever really helps us get
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Speaker 2 (01:55):
Poll on Spotify still open for like twelve more hours.
I checked it out a little bit ago. Six people.
Everybody agrees that it was a.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Haunting haunting Yeah, and that's that's what we thought too,
So I know Ed didn't change anybody's thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
He rarely does vanding each other against.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, exactly. And uh Amy, a friend of mine mentioned
that Generation why you know, you know Generation why it's
a bigger podcast. Yeah, I guess they're starting to do
listener stories at the end kind of like our fire pit.
So they ripped us off, But no, the least they
(02:33):
could do is like, I don't know, have us on
an episode. Maybe do a fire pit for him? Right?
And I don't know, what do you guys think? Get
over there and tell them, let him know, blow them up,
be like, hey, do you know Ryan and Scott already
do this? If you're gonna rip them off, you might
as well have the right. No, I really I love
the podcast. They do a really good job. Ryan doesn't
listen to a ton of podcasts. I do. They're great,
(02:54):
But I guess they're doing that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I know who would right, just recording.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Out there listening to this. So what's in the news
this week, Bob?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So first, uh, we have police in India arresting a
man inside the embassy in Ghazia bed So you think
that he would be covered by diplomatic community. Absolutely in
the movies all the time, but it doesn't apply in
this case. And the reason because his embassy is just
a rented warehouse and the countries that he claims to
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be in an ambassador for they don't exist.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
This guy's got ball, he does, and this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So he represents Uvia, West Arctica, Suborgia, West Arctica, and Ladonia.
That those sound nice.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
West Arctica. I don't know. I think maybe I could
have riddled that one out.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You gotta check him out this time of year, they're gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You gotta get to West Arctica, the sun, the sand.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So after setting this ship up, he would then contact
both individuals and companies promising very rich business deals in
exchange for some large fees. Harsh Vardian Jane has been
arrested in charge with multiple crimes and connection of this case.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, this is that one takes balls. You get messed
with a country, not just one, but several.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Countries created four countries created four and yeah, just but
in today's day and age, he took it. And it
says a big corporations. It doesn't name them, but he
got them as far as to get money from them.
It ain't too hard to figure out Suborga doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It isn't hard. It's not hard to go like, I
don't know, look at a map.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Whoever's in charge of writing the checks doesn't know that
Suborga and Ladonia don't exist. Well, you know, it's funny,
you say, whoever writes the checks. There's been several people
that have just.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Like taken in written a bill, send bills to like
Facebook or Meta or you know whatever they are, or
to Google. Just send them a an invoice and then
the company pays them. They never gave him any services.
But they're not even looking at that. They're just getting
these bills coming in. They're paying their bills.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I think, well, I think a lot of the departments
and these big companies are kept so separate, separate, you know, they.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Don't even know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh yeah, fucking oh.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Our government's been doing it forever. They just keep paying everything.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Three trillion dollars. That sounds legit.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Ooh, this must be a big one. We've better hurry
up and get this out.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
We just pay it out. Somebody else will catch it.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Where's it going? Oh, West Arctica. They're big never heard
of it. They're a big time. We don't want to
be late. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Next up, we get a story that goes all the
way back to twenty seventeen in Argentina. So when a
Google vehicle was taking images for Google street View. So
the vehicles in a small Argentina town about two hundred
miles from Buenos ayres. They captured a man naked in
his backyard and the images went out, which was bad enough,
but the man's street address and his home number are
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also crystal clearing the images, so you don't just see
the naked do you know exactly where he lives?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Right? I think this is on him though. He's out
in his yard all floppy cock and he's upset that
fucking yeah, they catch him on camera.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, it's a street view car, so I don't really
get it. It's it's kind of not clear to me,
but it says the whole yard was surrounded by a
six foot fan. Yeah, but so how was that captured
by a car unless his like a huge he's bear
assed on the hill.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
They caught me wiggling like doing the helicopter.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Smack smack smacks out, Oh my god, oh gosh, flopping
dick in the middle of the day time out of
this happen.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I can't believe they caught me all sloppy cock.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So if somehow the Google images escaped his neighbor's attention,
the full coverage given by the press absolutely not. So
they again included the guy's name, his address, and all that.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Google is really they've caught a lot of different some
of them are funny as hell, and you see some
of the stuff they caught. But they've been people who
have solved missing person cases and all this ship from
from that. They find cars and ponds and lakes.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And we covered a criminal case like four or five
months ago where the guy got busted by Google Maps.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, that's right. They were all in a body out
or something.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
How unfortunate is that you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Wouldn't not meant to get away with that.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Crime, That's what would happened to me for Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So the man was actually recently awarded the equivalent of
about twelve five hundred dollars. That's why this is a
current newscase. Even though it happened twenty seventeen years ago.
He was just now awarded the money. So the court
starred as a clear violation of his privacy. So clear
violation of his privates, which nobody wanted to see. A
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guy in Fort Myers, Florida was recently told that the
Planet Fitness he was working out and was getting ready
to close down for the night. So he decided he
would go ahead and set the locker roo on or
try to. It didn't take before then running around the
gym naked.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Another floppy cot going around the Planet's Fitness.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
He then got up inside the ceiling naked, and then
when the police showed up, he tried to hide inside.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Of naked, still still naked. Can you imagine crawling up
in the ceiling buck ass naked?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Why you don't do that?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, I'm just can you imagine how awesome it
would be? I call it Tuesday, right, Planet Fitness.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I feel weird. So police arrested twenty five year old
Henry and Tunis Alvarado for indecent exposure, arsome, criminal mischief,
and providing false informational law enforcement. Police were prevented from
laughing at the size of the dude's dick because Planet
Fitness is a judgment free zone. That's true.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, no muscleheads and Planet Witness he was he was
clear there.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Next up we get a guy in California with an
ass sniffing fetish. So weird everyone's got there with that.
I mean, this is this is a thing, that's his thing.
Thirty eight year old Calice Karen Crowder was doing it.
He wasn't doing it as part of like a consensual
kink like He didn't.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Have a mission. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
He was just walking up to women at Walmart in
the Empire City shopping center and Burbank, California to do
his ano inhalings.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He's just checking to see if it's a male or female.
Fun my dog does it all. It's so fucked up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So police responded to a call of a suspicious man
at Nordstrom in the same shopping center, but by the
time they got there, he had left and made his
way to Walmart. So police observed footage of him following
a woman into the women's department before bending down to
sniffer ass.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
They showed like a picture of him and he's like
almost laying on his side.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, he's not. He doesn't even pretend, he just gets down.
It takes a big deep what are you doing in
your ask? He couldn't possibly pretend it was anything else.
Ain'tal inhaling? Why is that weird? So he was quickly
detained and it was learned shockingly enough that he is
a registered sex offender. I know, you know, sometimes you
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just can't tell.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
No. He seems like a straight shooter and there was
no sign. It turns out.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It turns out he's creepy, thought, and this isn't his
first time doing this sort of thing. Back in twenty
twenty three, he was arrested at Barnes and Noble for
the exact same thing, and that same month he was
also arrested for peeping in the windows. So the guys
are fucking creepy.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
S Oh yeah, this guy's got some serious issues.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Due to jail overcrowding, he was released and turns on.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Back out on this hing rehability. Did I have room
for me?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna ask sniff.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, what are you doing to night? I don't know.
I thought i'd hit Walmart, roll around the floor, sniff
some assholes.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
They should send him to like the finish line of
like a marathon, if he's gonna do that or something,
taping right, taking some real woet behind me.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I'll let one, I'll let I'll take care of that.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That would probably get him worked up. You'd say that
as like a punishment. You're like, oh, yeah, heaven, who knew. Lastly,
we have a fatal encounter between a toddler and a
venomous cobra in India. Two year old Govinda Kumar was
playing outside his home and come Bantatua, a small village
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in the Indian state of Bihar. When the three foot
long snake came up on him. The child grabbed the snake,
which coiled around his arm and then a deadly bite occurred.
It's fatal, it was, But the story doesn't go the
way you think, or we wouldn't be covering it. It
was the child who did the chopping and fucked the snake.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It was fatal.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Govinda ingested a decent amount of poison, however, and he
had to be rushed to the hospital. But he was
released and his perf go okay. But the snake did
not make it badasses.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That chomped on its head.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It wasn't scared in the legs. The snake slithered over
to him. The kid picked it up. The snake coiled
to make a.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Move and the chomp. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
When I would see a spider when I was a kid,
I just screamed, that's it. And this kid's chomping a
snake up. He still does that. I don't, I don't
deny it can be looking over at me like.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
What the fuck? Yeah, he bites the head off of
a rat and.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I'm not going to be chomping on a transo winter,
so I can tell you that. Uh so that's the
news for this week. What do you get going just.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
For you giants? Part two? Jackpot? No, we're going to
be doing uh nds and OBEs again Part two.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh nice, there's a couple of calls for that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So yeah, so I waited. I waited at least six months,
and uh here we go.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Nice, We'll be right bad guys, do you know what
the world?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So? I can't believe this has actually been six months
since I did this pass It has been quite six months.
We get like just less than a week. But man,
that went really fast.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was like three Maybe it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Really does, but uh, I figured i'd do this. You know,
we've had some loss here lately, and this is kind
of how I believe things happen. You know, we talked
about the OBEs and NDAs before, out of body experiences
near death experiences, and you all know that I've had one,
and uh, I mean that's part of the reason. But
this is not only is this kind of how I
think things go. This is definitely how I want things
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to absolutely, so let's do it. So Eric Tait is
a psychotherapist in New Jersey, and ten years ago she
had an unexplainable incident. September twenty fifteen, she was twenty
two years old. She decided that morning should go for
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a hike on the Palisade Cliffs along the Hudson River.
She remembered that morning she had woken up with a
strange feeling in her stomach. She brushed it off and
went off to make her height. To take her height,
the hike along the Palisades ends at a place called
Peanut Leap Falls. Only today, where the falls normally run,
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there was no water this time of year, they go
dry Erica in the past had climbed up the falls
and thought maybe she could try it again today to
get a nice photo from the top. She made the
climb quite easily and got the picture she wanted and
began to make her descent down the falls. The falls
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now were just a sixty foot rock face that she
found was going to be a lot harder to go
down than it was going up. As she was making
her descent, she was soon stuck with no real place
to put her feet. She couldn't go back up, and
just below was a rock that was full of what
looked to be slippery moss all along its top. She
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stayed put for like twenty minutes, waiting for someone to
come along the trail someone could help her, but no
one showed. This is odd because normally this was a
pretty busy height, but on this day she appeared to
be the only one. So after about twenty minutes, she
decided she'd just have to give it a try and
began to step down onto the mossy covered rock below.
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She took a leap of faith and stepped onto it
the rock, and instantly regretted her decision. Her foot slipped
out from underneath her, and she tumbled down the cliff,
falling sixty feet on top of the boulders below.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh dude, that's a long fall.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You imagine. I was thinking about this because somewhere near
where we live, there's a place called the quarry. You remember,
you know it? I mean it's we called it the quarry.
You guys know what a quarry is a rock. We
have one near where me and Ryan grew up, closer
to his house. But uh, that was a fifty foot cliff.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, the pizza slice one they go.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That was the pizza slice was like twenty something, right,
but the actual cliffs were like fifty something feet at least,
And you don't realize how high that is until you're
looking down fifty feet jump in the water, until you
hit the water. Yeah, it's not gentle at fifty feet. No,
it hurts like hell, I only jumped off of the
top one time. Fifty four stories. Ah, that's yeah, quite
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four four and a half. Five ten foot is a story.
So yeah, that's six sixty six stories from where she.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Was essentially falling off the roof of the five story ohs, yeah,
give her.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Take onto boulders, not even onto like a soft ground
or anything like that. Erica was broken. She had broken ribs,
She broke her pelvis, her spinal cord, her ribs had
punctured her lung, and she was struggling for every breath.
She was suffocate. She remained unconscious for just over an hour,
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but when she came to, she was able to pull
her phone from her backpack and dial nine to one
to one. When the dispatcher answered, she wasn't able to
remember her name or where she was. She was just
able to tell them that she needed help. She said
she was dying. She was suffocating. Please help me. When
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they traced the call, the signal was bouncing off the
New Jersey cliffs and showing her to be in New York,
when in reality she was in New Jersey, so help
wasn't truly on its way. Erica laid on those boulders
for seven hours.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh man, excuse me.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
This is when she had her experience. She remembers separating
from her physical body. She found herself looking down upon
her body, and in that instant she realized that she
was not that there is something separate from her physical being,
and from that she learned that I don't die, that
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there is no death. There is something that survives death,
a soul, the spirit, whatever you want to call it.
It's consciousness. This was profound for her because she had
stated before this that all she believed in was what
she could sense with her five senses. But this proved
to be This proved to her to not be the case.
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There was more. At this point, Erica instantly had her
life flashed before her eyes. And this is a little
if you notice in these cases, I'm doing it. I've
done these. A lot of people have the life the
Life review or whatever, then it never seems to be
the same order. Yeah, every not everybody, but most people
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seem to have some kind of review or whatever sums
after they go to the lie sums before or whatever.
But a lot of people claim that they have this review.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, it makes it more or believable to me.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, so many people. There's so many of these cases.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You wouldn't want the stories to be identical because then
it sounds like worshit. But they're all so varied, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And I'll probably discuss it later too, But I think
what people see on the other side is a lot
of it is how they can picture it and interpret
it to take it in. You guys, hear any banging.
Our kids are upstairs being obnoxious. We're gonna have to
yell at them in a minute. So Erica instantly had
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her life flashed before her eyes. This is what she
described as her life review. She had grown up with
a lot of childhood trauma and had struggled with addiction.
She said she was a sick and wounded human at
this time in her life. She also said that she
was a huge atheist. She was actually causing others around
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her more harm when she truly should have been helping
them to have relief from their own suffering. She was
not living her soul le's purpose. This is what she got.
On the other side, she saw that her suffering was
actually being transmitted to those around her. She learned about
karma and how it affects people and not just ourselves,
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and how it determines where we go next. And this
all comes There's a lot of different religions that believe
in karma, and uh, you know there has to be
something to it. You treat people like shit, I think
eventually you're gonna ei You're gonna pay for it in
this life, or you're gonna pay somehow.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Truthfully, you should, right, you would think so what you
put out is what you get back. I would think
it's fair, fair, fair.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Play, Right, Yeah, you would think so. I mean, we've
all done shitty stuff and we've all had shitty stuff
done to us.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You do good things, you get good things. If you're
a piece of shit, you get it coming back.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You notice, if you've been in ask to somebody, you
do seem to get it back. And if you if
you treat people right, you know, you get treated right. So, yeah,
I truly believe there's something to it, for sure, But
Erica said there wasn't anyone judge her, but she was
judging herself. It was like an honest assessment of herself
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from herself. She claimed this had created a huge heart
expansion in her. That's how she described it, deep compassion
for the suffering in the world. She believes now that
the earth is actually a school and everything we do
is to teach us how to live with our soul's
purpose to fully embody love. I believe we're here for
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a purpose too, you know, we all come here to learn. Yeah.
Next came the white Light experience. Remember before this, Erica
was a huge atheist. She had no problem expressing that
she believed there was no God. She believed this so
much that it was the night before she took that
tumble down the cliff to the rocks below, that she
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had actually had a fight with her sisters while at
a party about how there was no God. She remembered
making her cry that night. The very next morning she
set off on the hike that would change that belief forever.
She described the light as possibly God or the ultimate
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consciousness or the Spirit. She claimed it taught her about
how it was everything every molecule that has ever existed,
and that it was the most incredible, unspeakable amount of
love and the wisdom that came from that energy as well,
that we are all fully connected. When all this happened,
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there was an off duty firefighter who'd been listening in
on the call, and he himself had an intuition, a
gut instinct that he knew where Erica was. He set
off on a couple mile hike and he found Erica
a rate where he had pictured she would be. So,
I mean, literally, this dude just happens to be listening
in the call. He's a firefighter, he's off duty, he's
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at home, just chilling, and he gets this intuition like
I know where she is. I know where this girl is.
Sets off and she is right where he thought she was.
And I mean, they had no idea. This was literally
bouncing off of the cliffs, so they had no idea
where she was. At this point, Erica was still on
the other side. She had made the decision that she
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needs to come back because her mission was not complete.
As she re entered her body, she opened her eyes
just as she heard a voice yelled to her. Erica
it was the fireman. He had arrived at the exact
time that she had returned. A rescue boat was called
and they took Erica down the Hudson and Life Lighter
to the hospital, where she remained over a month. After
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she was eventually released, she did another month of physical
rehab from home, where she still remained bedridden or in
a wheelchair for another six months. She claims that throughout
that time she was undergoing a massive transformation. She had
a huge spiritual awakening. She could now see energy and
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feel energy. Her heart became more open. She believed she
could feel others suffering around her. She was way more
attuned to higher frequencies. Electronic things around her would break.
The ceiling fan in her room would move without being
turned on. The curtains would move without any wind. She
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went through several cell phones and computers. They were just
they were breaking her, malfunctioning after when she would use them.
She now believes she's here to help others and is
now a true believer. She no longer has the fear
of death because she knows and that is a true gift.
So I've heard this a little bit, but notded to
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this effect that after somebody had near death. I looked
into it after reading this, and I guess there's quite
a few people that have like issues with electronics and
lights and almost like paranormal type stuff also that seems
to happen around them after a near death experience. I mean,
I think I may have said that in one of
the other cases, but.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Well, I mean it kind of stands to reason if
you've been on the other side, then maybe there's still
like a you know, part of the energy comes with
you with a doorway still a cross open or something something.
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's what I've always said with me, you know, we
talked about it before, like it seemed like maybe because
I had a near death experience as a kid, that's
maybe why I had all these ghostly experiences and stuff in.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
My life later often comes back with you. Or maybe
the doors.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Something open, you know. I always thought of it as
like a light, and uh, because some people said that
it was like that there to the spirit's like a lighthouse. Yeah,
I always pictured myself as like that dim light in
the basement in the corner. I've always been a dim light.
But no, it's something like that where it's just you know,
a little you see, if something's gonna happen, it will
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probably happen around me or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, and the movie Insidious, she says in terms of
like the spirit world, she says, be careful when you
call out, because they all hear you, Like, even if
you went it's only one of them, they all hear.
And that kind of makes sense, Like that's if you're
calling the spirit world. You can't make like an individual call.
You're just calling into the spirit world. So you might
get the person you're calling, but.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You might get a good one, you might get more
of it. Yeah, that's actually scary.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, it's very scary. Well it's a horror movie, so supposed.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
To supposed to be scary. So that's her story.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That was a good one, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The next one we got in March twenty nineteen. I'm
gonna have to do a name here, so guys buckle up.
Twenty nineteen. Betty got dang. No, that sounds legit for shit.
Sure that is godango cadag Now, I think that's right.
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Was not the person she is now. She grew up
in a very dysfunctional home and that's a I noticed
that too. A lot of these I'll a lot of
the people that have these experiences seem to have been
on the wrong course, you know what I mean, And
it is more likely to happen to somebody like that,
I would think. She lived in chaos, abuse and began
using drugs at a very early age. Her parents were addicts,
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and they were actually the ones who taught her to use.
She said. In two thousand and five, her parents both
decided to quit using drugs, and they did that by
both committing suicide. Jesus Yeah. Betty was twenty three and
her sister was eighteen at the time. This caused her
to spiral even deeper into her addiction. She claimed to
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have an onset of a spiritual awakening brought on by
an overdose. Betty died and says she went to heaven.
At the time she went to heaven, she described herself
as a devout atheist. She would rant about how there
was no God. She was an orphan, a drug addict,
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a meth head, prostitute, strung out on heroin, a liar,
a thief, and there she was finding herself in heaven,
surrounded by unconditional love and bright light. She remembers thinking, Wow,
I am so high. I believe I'm talking to God.
What a trip. But it became clear to her real
fast that that was not the case. And can you
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imagine if you've been a drug addict all these times,
especially doing heroin or meth and all this stuff. You know,
it doesn't seem like she had a drug a choice.
She had a lot of them. Yeah, and it would
be really hard to believe. And when we look at it,
it's like, oh, she was tripping. She's tripping her ass off.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's what I would think. I'm so fucked up.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, looking at God, like, whoa dude, He's just shaking
his head. Oh, Scott being Scott. While she was in
this space, she claims that she was taken through her
pre birth planning. So this one's a little different. I
hadn't heard too much about this. I've seen a little
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bit about it. She was shown that her as a soul,
had chosen her life. I've heard that before, But she
had chosen her life before she'd even come to earth.
She chose her parents and her family, every sexual partner,
even the partners where she was the abuser in their lives.
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She had made all these decisions. She said to her,
it was like a video game. While she was picking
all these life experiences, she saw herself in like a
grocery store. She had this empty cart, and there was
a man. He was wearing a plaid blazer and a fedora,
and he said, okay, pick your life, she claimed. She
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started picking things that looked like cereal boxes, but they
had things written on them. She picked to be an addict.
She picked a ton of adversity and hardship. She also
picked things that she hadn't experienced yet, recovery, overcoming, and triumph.
All these dreams and goals. But these were all the
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things that had not happened yet in her life. She
begged them to stay in the space, but they told
her she was a spiritual soldier. She had volunteered to
come back to uplift the consciousness of the planet, and
she had to go back for her mission. They explained
that the first half of her life was like boot camp.
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She said, no, I'm okay, I'm gonna stay here. Imagine
you're talking to God. You need to go back now.
I'm all right, I'm good. Pass. She said, I'm not
interested in doing that, and they said, no, you have
to go back. She says she acted like a small child.
She started stomping her feet and pounding her fists, saying,
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I will not go back. I will not go back,
guessing that doesn't work with God. Yeah, I will hold
my path. She actually said to them, you don't tell
us that earth is actually what Earth is actually like,
it's too hard, it's too challenging. There's no way I
can do it. She literally threw temper tantrum. And I've
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heard that before too. Yeah, and the spirit on the
other side is like kind of laughing at him, like
do you realize what you're doing here? You know you
have no power here. She had a thought and she
said it out loud. She said, well, I definitely can't
go back to her. They agreed, and so, okay, you
don't have to go back into her, but you have
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to go back. They then showed her three babies. Then
they showed her the baby that she would going back
as remember, she's seeing this all like if it's a
video game. She said that the baby had a list
of what she called it's stats. They show her. They
showed her her ethnicity, the gender, where she would be born,
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her family line, and her adversities. It was even more
difficult than what she'd already been through. She threw up
her hands and said, I can't go through all of that.
I cannot start from zero. I'll go back into her
referring to herself. She referred to herself as her because
she as they all have a disconnect from that body.
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Once they're out of that body, it's attached. It's another person. Say,
like when they when they went back into the body,
I think that was possibly Eban Alexander felt like it
was putting on a dirty, dirty suit, like he was
climbing back into like a filthy dirty You know.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Imagine what you would feel like getting back into that body.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But yeah, god, this one was an overdose. We can't
imagine the the other one that's done, the one that
fell off the cliff. You know, you gotta crawl back
into that pain. It's not like you just come back
and everything in school. You come back into pain and agony.
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But after she said she'd go back, she almost instantly
found herself back. She didn't even believe that what she
had just seen. She actually shrugged it all off as
a drug induced psychosis. None of this could would be
part of her life, So she went back to her
old life, but soon the universe would make her aware
that it was real. She states that when she was there,
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she got two very clear messages. One you have to
go back, and two you have to quit doing drugs.
It's time for your mission. Things started to happen around
her things she couldn't explain. All of her dealers at
the same time decided to turn their life around and
stop selling drugs, every one of them at almost the
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exact same time. None of these people even knew each other.
She no longer had a way to even get drugs.
I mean, what's the odds of that? I believe she
said it was like five or six of them all
at the same time, just decided, I'm not going to
sell drugs anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
How many deals do you need?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
She must be right either that they all got together
and they're like, she's so, we really need to tell
her we quit. When she was actually able to find drugs,
she found that they no longer worked for her. She
would take them and there was no effect. She began
to have major withdrawals. On around day three of her withdrawals,
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she was so incredibly sick. She had been she had
been in an opioid addict for over twenty years. She
remembers thinking that she couldn't even try and kill herself
because she was in too much pain to even think
of how she would do it. She wouldn't even be
able to pull it off. And that's a crazy thought.
I mean, her thought is I would kill myself, but
(34:30):
I can't even I can't even possibly do it because
I'm in so much agony. During this time, she heard
a voice, a voice that said she could request what
she wanted fixed. She was desperate and said, okay, she
wanted her pain receptors and neurotransmitters fixed. This is specifically
what she asked for. She said, I want I no
(34:54):
longer want to be dependent on heroin. She didn't say
she wanted to be healed of her drug addiction, because
in her head, she definitely still wanted to do those
other drugs. She just didn't want to be dependent on heroin.
And you think about it, this was this girl's whole life,
her whole life. She grew up with drugs. Her parents
were drug addicts. They got her to do drugs. She's
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been on drugs her entire life.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
No, it's in her DNA at this point.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yep. The voice said, lay back and count back from ten.
She said, it was like thumbs making xes on her forehead.
In her mind's eye, she saw two little men show up.
This is in her head, and in front of them
appeared like two lawnmowers. They took hold of them mowers
and went in opposite directions. They began walking through the
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crevices of her mind. As they walked, she felt hot,
intense tinglings, like they were healing her. Then she felt
a palm on her forehead, and then like a plunger,
as it plunged down, there was a bright flash of light,
and as it faded away, she was healed. She was
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no longer in Heroin withdrawals. She felt fine, no more pain.
After that, it became clear to her something had happened
and she needed to follow a different path, But she
wasn't sure how to do it, so she followed her intuition.
She had an intuition to go on to the subway
with no destination. She just got on the train. Sitting
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across from her was a man and he was wearing
a twelve step Fellowship necklace. She heard a voice in
her head say, that's your path. Follow him to a
meeting and she did. That was June first, twenty nineteen,
and she's been cleaned from that day since. She went
to several meetings, and she went into several meetings in
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that day. In the days after, she found herself sitting
across from the director of a long term rehab She
had a thought that she didn't know how to be
a person without drugs, and how would she she been
on drugs or entire life. She made a plan in
her head that she was going to talk to that
woman after the meeting and begged for her for a
bed in her facility so she could start a new life.
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She was working up the courage throughout the meeting, but
once the meeting was over, she went to talk to
the lady, but she was gone. She'd left early. She
felt crazy, defeated. She walked out onto the street and
down to the bus stop. She boarded the bus and
when when it came, she sat down, excuse me, the
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bus obviously already came. She boarded the bus and sat down,
and there on the bus was the lady from the meeting.
Somehow she had left early but still ended up on
the same bus as her. She burst out, telling her
what had happened, how she wanted to talk to her,
how she was gone, and how she thought she was
(37:55):
an angel. Please help me, Please help me. The lady said, yes,
we have a bed. Come by tomorrow and we will
help you. She spent the next day. Excuse me, She
went there the next day with only the clothes on
her back. She stayed in rehab for over seventeen months,
(38:15):
no computers, no phones. She just learned everything she could
about spirituality. I can't even talk spirituality, spirituality, that word.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Splice all those together.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
You probably get you guys. Take parts of those, put
them together spirituality.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Seventeen fucking months in rehab. Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You know what, though, that seems to be the only
way it works for a lot of people. I mean, yes,
you have to be away from it for such.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
A long attic. She was an attic. I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
But I've seen rehab not work a lot because people
are in there for three or six months and then
they come out and they're way back to it. Yeah,
you know, it really takes. It takes that long being
separated from it, not just to get your get away
from the with the withdrawal and everything you have, your life.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Has to show you got to reset everything.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, your life has to change, and you go out,
it's the same people around, it's the same situation. You know,
you go right back to it.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Hey, you got to you gotta have a whole new
circle when you get out after that lifestyle, I would think.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
You have to. You almost have to move to a
whole new location and everything. So she read everything she
could get her hands on. It was empowering for her,
she believed. With this new download of her pre birth planning,
it was an instant shift and consciousness. Things no longer
happened to her, but happened for her. She was no
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longer a victim of her circumstances. She knew she had
chosen it. So with her story, it's like what I said,
it's like she saw the whole thing. I don't know
if it's like a way that they can show it
to her so she could understand it better, Like she
was like in a grocery store picking out stuff, and
then when they showed her the baby that she would
(39:58):
go back to. It was like a video game for her.
They all see things that look pretty modern, you know
what I mean. Like one one story I was listening to,
guy was looking at like a tablet, and this is
like in the seventies or eighties.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Maybe it's shown to you in the way that you
can best understand it for your personal experience.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's it. And that's just maybe what you've learned in
that lifetime that you just had or what you yeah,
and it's just showed to you that way.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
It would be like it'd be presented to me in
a football game.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Or right something like that. It'd be read to be really.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Slowly, single syllabri Listen closely, Scott, Scott like life, life good,
it's got Scott. Look the squirrel, big words bad.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
He's gone. He's gone again. We lost him. Bring them
back over here. I'm not gonna go back. I'm staying.
That's what I love is when they when they tell them, no,
I'm not going back. No you have to go back.
Oh there's zero chance I'm doing that. All right. I
got one more story for you, guys. Someone's a little
(41:06):
bit shorter. We'll wrap it up with this one. On
June tenth, twenty twenty, Chad Osinga was riding his motorcycle
with six others from his motorcycle club that he belonged to.
He was driving south on I ninety five in Virginia.
He was cruising along and enjoying his ride when the
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club came up on a part of the interstate where
they were doing some construction. They were adding a lane,
so there was that area with barricades, you know, those
concrete barriers you see all along the highway. Chad was
all of a sudden being run off out of his
lane by a mini van that had begun to come over,
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apparently unaware that he was even there. And that's the thing. Man,
you're on a motorcycle. It's tough to see a motorcycle,
and if you're on a motorcycle, you really get to
look out for other people. Yeah. I had a motorcycle
and I was working in the er in Nebraska and
we get a lot of the traumas we were the
trauma hospital and the stuff I saw coming into the er,
(42:11):
I sold my motorcycle like soon after I saw some shit,
and yeah, it scared the hell out of me. I
actually sold my bike to someone else who was in respiratory.
Within me. You might not want to go to the
er this week. You don't want to see what's happening
down there. But the summertime, they always picked up with
the motorcycle accidents. Yeah, so he didn't notice it was
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happening until it was too late. He was being pushed
into the edge of the road where he was met
with one of those concrete barriers. Both the impact from
the van and his motorcycle clidding head on with the
barrier set Chad flying headfirst over it and straight into
the construction zone. Other people in the club saw what
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had happened. They stopped and ran to Chad and began
to administer first aid. Nine to one one was called
and the guy stayed with him until the squad arrived
and started to transfer him to the nearest hospital. It
wasn't long after that they picked Chad up and headed
out that It wasn't long after they picked up Chad
(43:16):
and headed out that Chad's heart stopped. The ambulance crew
began CPR and were able to stabilize him until they
were able to get him to the University Hospital in Richmond, Virginia.
Chad remembers when he did flatline that everything went black,
but that was all that he remembered. He was admitted
to the er, where it was discovered that Chad was
(43:39):
in need of emergency surgery. He was taken to surgery
within minutes of his arrival at the hospital. During surgery,
they discovered other problems that needed to be addressed that
were not originally seen on the first MRI, So after
the first surgery was complete, Chad was moved to the
ICU to recover while they were planning and scheduling his
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next surgery. A few days later, when they're prepared to
take Chad back for his next surgery, the doctor came
to do her pre surgery meeting with the patient. While
the doctor was explaining what they were about to do
and asking Chad several questions, he began to notice he
was answering the questions and his words seemed to be slurred.
(44:23):
Things all of a sudden got real hot for him,
and he had a quick sense of panic. Everything went
black for a second time, and then the next thing
he knows, he could see all the nurses pulling him
into the next room. They moved him from the stretcher
to the table. But Chad is watching it like a movie,
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like he has front row seats and everything is before him.
He sees the doctors working on him and the nurses
are panicked. But for Chad, in this space, time didn't exist.
Nothing was being said, but everything was known, which was
real interesting to hear when I heard that quote. Nothing
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was being said, but everything was known. So he knew
everything that was happening without hearing any words or anything,
you know, just that all knowing. While he's watching this
all take place in front of him. He remembers that
he was at absolute peace. He says he became awareness itself.
(45:26):
It was one of the most freeing moments of his life.
He was not out for long. He was resuscitated quickly.
When all this was taking place, it was like it
was in slow motion. For Chad. This is when things
really hit home for him. After coming back, things were different. Well,
we didn't mention before the accident. Chad he was a mess.
(45:51):
He was an alcoholic and he was drinking a fit
of whiskey a night. He claimed. He was just lost.
He was a former military a guy that has some
demons and he was dealing with them. He was unaware
as to how he would overcome those things, and it
was destroying him and his family. Chad claims in this
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time on the other side, he was just awareness. He
didn't go anywhere. He didn't travel to another universe. He
was just existence itself. And this one man. It it
reminds me because this is a little different than the
other things. But they all have a tendency to say
like we're all one, you know, you're like in a consciousness,
(46:34):
but you're all like, like the last lady said that,
it just this just existence is like every molecule, every anything,
We're all just connected. Yeah, But with him, he's like
it was just existence, you know, which was odd. Once returned,
he was just different. Something had changed. He had met
(46:54):
his true self when he passed, and he believed now
that this life isn't real. The experiences that we have
here is very much like a movie, and as awareness,
we are watching this movie through this first person experience
that's given to us with this body. He just knew
these things. Now, this was all happen. This all happened
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during COVID, so Chad was isolated from others, no visitors,
He had no phone, it was destroyed in the accident.
He said he was sitting in the room alone for
seven days and it was the most spiritual moment he'd
had in his entire life. When he came home he
was completely different. He no longer had an urge to drink.
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This is very similar to the first story. He spent
the next year having surgery after surgery, having to learn
to walk again, but through it all he had a
peaceful attitude towards it all because he now believed that
it wasn't actually happening to him. He just saw life differently.
Now to this day, Chad no longer drinks. He changed
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his entire life from the day of his experience on.
When I was listening to this and reading about this one,
I was thinking, and this is off topic a little bit,
but you wonder if everybody is connected. You see all
these people in your life and everything, if this is
what you believe, you know you come here as a consciousness.
(48:24):
Are there people out there that don't have a soul
in them? Like non player?
Speaker 2 (48:30):
You know?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You see these people that cause havoc in people's lives,
and you wonder if they're just there for the experience
or if they actually have I was just thinking of that.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Off the couple jokers, off the shuffled into the deck
is entirely possible. I meet people on a daily basis.
I don't want to think I'm fucking connected to it anyway.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
You don't think are they real? Are they? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Because I mean this, I was like yelling at the
building in an alleyway, and I don't.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Want to, oh, yeah, connected to him, my brother? Yeah.
I mean you wonder if there's like I don't know
if you believe all of it. Are there's things that
are put out there to be an adversary or are
those also other souls going through whatever they There's just
so much. I don't know, I thought, I do. I
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do believe that. And now you can call it heaven,
you can call it the other side. I don't know.
I get into the whole dimensions thing when you talk
about this and all this stuff with aliens and everything.
I don't know. There's just so much to take in.
I do believe for this, I do believe that you
there the way these things tend to go. I was
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listening to another one and the guy literally during his
view in heaven or the after or whatever you want
to call it, the upside down, he said that he
would view other other universes, other planets, and you know
they we're not just like stuck here on the on
(49:55):
Earth that we can go anywhere anywhere in the universe.
You know, you think of that, I mean, maybe you're
not even human the next time around. Yeah, I mean,
it's all reincarnation. You know. It goes to those kids
that I've talked about in the reincarnation episodes. I mean,
they're living more than one life. They're coming back, they're
seeing the other side. You know. Some of the kids
(50:15):
said that they chose, like with this one, chose that
they were coming back and who they were gonna be.
They chose him for the parents. We heard that and
the reincarnation stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
There's a couple of themes that run throughout all these Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
It's so many, there's so many of these stories out there.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
But this guy comes back with a complete mental and
spiritual reset, just a reevaluation on life.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, and so did the other two. And it's like
they have this spiritual awakening. And then, like he said,
he sat in that room for seven days and it
was the most spiritual life. I don't know, lost my
mind being in a room for over a day or
two without anything, you know.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
It's like thirty five minutes, I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (50:51):
And he was round during COVID there was no we
didn't let patients families come in. There was there was
poor poor people that passed the way it never got
to see their family because they couldn't come in. Some
of them got to see them from the window outside
of their room or something like that, but that didn't
always work out, you know. And so I mean, yeah,
he was completely isolated. He may have had TV, but
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half the time some of these hospitals of the internet
doesn't work. You don't have you know, you're thinking this
day and age, but no, yeah, you know, so, yeah,
i'd have gone nuts in that room. Absolutely. Anyways, that's
what I got for this one.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
That was a good story.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I like that a lot. But all right, guys, well
we were about to head over to the fire pit.
We will catch you over there. I guess you don't
what's imisk. So we noticed in the comments that I
think it was Manny right has said that the fire
(51:48):
pit was sounded funky, and he's right. It was like
we did not notice. It's gonna it's not perfect this
week either. It should be better than what it has been.
But we will get that re recorded and get it fixed.
Sorry about the guys, we didn't even realize that was happening.
If you guys hear stuff like that, feel free to
let us know.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I said something a long time ago, but we were
experiencing a bunch of sound issues at the time and
I didn't Oh, we.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Had some shit going on, So yeah, that was Ryan's fault.
I accept. No, we'll get it fixed. Sorry about the quality.
We will get it fixed. Hopefully it's better than it was,
but we'll get there. So all right, Ryan's got a
fire pit, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
This week's week's fire pit comes to us from wes
Hey Fellas. I found your podcast last summer and managed
to power through all of your episodes. I was a
traveling installation tech, so I drove a lot. You guys
kept me entertained while I was driving through some areas
with no signal. I retired from the Navy last year
after twenty three years of service. I spent some time
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in the shipyard in Portsmouth, New Hampshire a few times.
I have some good stories to share, some scary, but
mostly funny. So here's my funny story where I almost
had to do a breaking entering to check on one
of my sailors. I was home after a doctor's appointment
and I got a phone call from one of my sailors.
One guy was supposed to be at work but wasn't.
He tried calling him and got no answer. I tried
(53:10):
calling several times, and so did others I worked with.
I called my boss and told him of the predicament.
This sailor had recently had some wife troubles and she
wasn't with him at the time. I kind of worried
he was unconscious or something worse inside. I kind of
remember which house was his in the Navy housing, So
I left my house and went looking for his piece
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of shit read s ten pickup. I drove all over
and was calling my boss to let him know. I
found his house, knocked on the door and looked to
see if anything was unlocked. I was really worried at
the time and called my boss again and told him
I was about to kick in the door and make
sure he was wasn't dead or something. Finally, the sailor
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called me back. He had left his phone in his
buddy's car. They were in a junkyard in Massachusetts and
couldn't answer. I got off the phone with him and
called my boss back and told him. Luckily, this all
happened quick enough that our command master chief had not
yet been called, so that it was a running joke
for a while that he had to answer his phone
so Chief wouldn't come kick his door in. I have
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some more stories, so I'll be sending them your way.
Thanks for the laughs, and keep it up, wesh. He
also says sorry for your recent loss, which is very nice.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, we appreciate that, and thanks for your service. Absolutely
twenty three years in the military. That's great with it,
and part of it right down the road from here. Yeah,
so yeah, that's some stomping grounds there.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
At least briefly, briefly in New England.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, I almost got arrested at a McDonald's right around
the corner from where you are.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I'm sure a lot of guys have.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
I think you probably do. That was over there, like
right near piece a lot a lot. So thank you
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Poll on Spotify still open for like twelve more hours.
I checked it out a little bit ago. Six people.
Everybody agrees that it was a.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Haunting haunting Yeah, and that's that's what we thought too,
So I know Ed didn't change anybody's thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
He rarely does vanding each other against.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, exactly. And uh Amy, a friend of mine mentioned
that Generation why you know, you know Generation why it's
a bigger podcast. Yeah, I guess they're starting to do
listener stories at the end kind of like our fire pit.
So they ripped us off, But no, the least they
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could do is like, I don't know, have us on
an episode. Maybe do a fire pit for him? Right?
And I don't know, what do you guys think? Get
over there and tell them, let him know, blow them up,
be like, hey, do you know Ryan and Scott already
do this? If you're gonna rip them off, you might
as well have the right. No, I really I love
the podcast. They do a really good job. Ryan doesn't
listen to a ton of podcasts. I do. They're great,
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But I guess they're doing that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I know who would right, just recording.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Out there listening to this. So what's in the news
this week, Bob?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So first, uh, we have police in India arresting a
man inside the embassy in Ghazia bed So you think
that he would be covered by diplomatic community. Absolutely in
the movies all the time, but it doesn't apply in
this case. And the reason because his embassy is just
a rented warehouse and the countries that he claims to
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be in an ambassador for they don't exist.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
This guy's got ball, he does, and this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So he represents Uvia, West Arctica, Suborgia, West Arctica, and Ladonia.
That those sound nice.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
West Arctica. I don't know. I think maybe I could
have riddled that one out.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You gotta check him out this time of year, they're gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You gotta get to West Arctica, the sun, the sand.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So after setting this ship up, he would then contact
both individuals and companies promising very rich business deals in
exchange for some large fees. Harsh Vardian Jane has been
arrested in charge with multiple crimes and connection of this case.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, this is that one takes balls. You get messed
with a country, not just one, but several.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Countries created four countries created four and yeah, just but
in today's day and age, he took it. And it
says a big corporations. It doesn't name them, but he
got them as far as to get money from them.
It ain't too hard to figure out Suborga doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It isn't hard. It's not hard to go like, I
don't know, look at a map.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Whoever's in charge of writing the checks doesn't know that
Suborga and Ladonia don't exist. Well, you know, it's funny,
you say, whoever writes the checks. There's been several people
that have just.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Like taken in written a bill, send bills to like
Facebook or Meta or you know whatever they are, or
to Google. Just send them a an invoice and then
the company pays them. They never gave him any services.
But they're not even looking at that. They're just getting
these bills coming in. They're paying their bills.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I think, well, I think a lot of the departments
and these big companies are kept so separate, separate, you know, they.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Don't even know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh yeah, fucking oh.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Our government's been doing it forever. They just keep paying everything.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Three trillion dollars. That sounds legit.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Ooh, this must be a big one. We've better hurry
up and get this out.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
We just pay it out. Somebody else will catch it.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Where's it going? Oh, West Arctica. They're big never heard
of it. They're a big time. We don't want to
be late. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Next up, we get a story that goes all the
way back to twenty seventeen in Argentina. So when a
Google vehicle was taking images for Google street View. So
the vehicles in a small Argentina town about two hundred
miles from Buenos ayres. They captured a man naked in
his backyard and the images went out, which was bad enough,
but the man's street address and his home number are
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also crystal clearing the images, so you don't just see
the naked do you know exactly where he lives?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Right? I think this is on him though. He's out
in his yard all floppy cock and he's upset that
fucking yeah, they catch him on camera.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, it's a street view car, so I don't really
get it. It's it's kind of not clear to me,
but it says the whole yard was surrounded by a
six foot fan. Yeah, but so how was that captured
by a car unless his like a huge he's bear
assed on the hill.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
They caught me wiggling like doing the helicopter.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Smack smack smacks out, Oh my god, oh gosh, flopping
dick in the middle of the day time out of
this happen.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I can't believe they caught me all sloppy cock.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So if somehow the Google images escaped his neighbor's attention,
the full coverage given by the press absolutely not. So
they again included the guy's name, his address, and all that.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Google is really they've caught a lot of different some
of them are funny as hell, and you see some
of the stuff they caught. But they've been people who
have solved missing person cases and all this ship from
from that. They find cars and ponds and lakes.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And we covered a criminal case like four or five
months ago where the guy got busted by Google Maps.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, that's right. They were all in a body out
or something.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
How unfortunate is that you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Wouldn't not meant to get away with that.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Crime, That's what would happened to me for Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So the man was actually recently awarded the equivalent of
about twelve five hundred dollars. That's why this is a
current newscase. Even though it happened twenty seventeen years ago.
He was just now awarded the money. So the court
starred as a clear violation of his privacy. So clear
violation of his privates, which nobody wanted to see. A
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guy in Fort Myers, Florida was recently told that the
Planet Fitness he was working out and was getting ready
to close down for the night. So he decided he
would go ahead and set the locker roo on or
try to. It didn't take before then running around the
gym naked.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Another floppy cot going around the Planet's Fitness.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
He then got up inside the ceiling naked, and then
when the police showed up, he tried to hide inside.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Of naked, still still naked. Can you imagine crawling up
in the ceiling buck ass naked?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Why you don't do that?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, I'm just can you imagine how awesome it
would be? I call it Tuesday, right, Planet Fitness.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I feel weird. So police arrested twenty five year old
Henry and Tunis Alvarado for indecent exposure, arsome, criminal mischief,
and providing false informational law enforcement. Police were prevented from
laughing at the size of the dude's dick because Planet
Fitness is a judgment free zone. That's true.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, no muscleheads and Planet Witness he was he was
clear there.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Next up we get a guy in California with an
ass sniffing fetish. So weird everyone's got there with that.
I mean, this is this is a thing, that's his thing.
Thirty eight year old Calice Karen Crowder was doing it.
He wasn't doing it as part of like a consensual
kink like He didn't.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Have a mission. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
He was just walking up to women at Walmart in
the Empire City shopping center and Burbank, California to do
his ano inhalings.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He's just checking to see if it's a male or female.
Fun my dog does it all. It's so fucked up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So police responded to a call of a suspicious man
at Nordstrom in the same shopping center, but by the
time they got there, he had left and made his
way to Walmart. So police observed footage of him following
a woman into the women's department before bending down to
sniffer ass.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
They showed like a picture of him and he's like
almost laying on his side.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, he's not. He doesn't even pretend, he just gets down.
It takes a big deep what are you doing in
your ask? He couldn't possibly pretend it was anything else.
Ain'tal inhaling? Why is that weird? So he was quickly
detained and it was learned shockingly enough that he is
a registered sex offender. I know, you know, sometimes you
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just can't tell.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
No. He seems like a straight shooter and there was
no sign. It turns out.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It turns out he's creepy, thought, and this isn't his
first time doing this sort of thing. Back in twenty
twenty three, he was arrested at Barnes and Noble for
the exact same thing, and that same month he was
also arrested for peeping in the windows. So the guys
are fucking creepy.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
S Oh yeah, this guy's got some serious issues.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Due to jail overcrowding, he was released and turns on.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Back out on this hing rehability. Did I have room
for me?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna ask sniff.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, what are you doing to night? I don't know.
I thought i'd hit Walmart, roll around the floor, sniff
some assholes.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
They should send him to like the finish line of
like a marathon, if he's gonna do that or something,
taping right, taking some real woet behind me.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I'll let one, I'll let I'll take care of that.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That would probably get him worked up. You'd say that
as like a punishment. You're like, oh, yeah, heaven, who knew. Lastly,
we have a fatal encounter between a toddler and a
venomous cobra in India. Two year old Govinda Kumar was
playing outside his home and come Bantatua, a small village
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in the Indian state of Bihar. When the three foot
long snake came up on him. The child grabbed the snake,
which coiled around his arm and then a deadly bite occurred.
It's fatal, it was, But the story doesn't go the
way you think, or we wouldn't be covering it. It
was the child who did the chopping and fucked the snake.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It was fatal.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Govinda ingested a decent amount of poison, however, and he
had to be rushed to the hospital. But he was
released and his perf go okay. But the snake did
not make it badasses.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That chomped on its head.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It wasn't scared in the legs. The snake slithered over
to him. The kid picked it up. The snake coiled
to make a.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Move and the chomp. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
When I would see a spider when I was a kid,
I just screamed, that's it. And this kid's chomping a
snake up. He still does that. I don't, I don't
deny it can be looking over at me like.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
What the fuck? Yeah, he bites the head off of
a rat and.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I'm not going to be chomping on a transo winter,
so I can tell you that. Uh so that's the
news for this week. What do you get going just.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
For you giants? Part two? Jackpot? No, we're going to
be doing uh nds and OBEs again Part two.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh nice, there's a couple of calls for that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So yeah, so I waited. I waited at least six months,
and uh here we go.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Nice, We'll be right bad guys, do you know what
the world?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So? I can't believe this has actually been six months
since I did this pass It has been quite six months.
We get like just less than a week. But man,
that went really fast.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was like three Maybe it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Really does, but uh, I figured i'd do this. You know,
we've had some loss here lately, and this is kind
of how I believe things happen. You know, we talked
about the OBEs and NDAs before, out of body experiences
near death experiences, and you all know that I've had one,
and uh, I mean that's part of the reason. But
this is not only is this kind of how I
think things go. This is definitely how I want things
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to absolutely, so let's do it. So Eric Tait is
a psychotherapist in New Jersey, and ten years ago she
had an unexplainable incident. September twenty fifteen, she was twenty
two years old. She decided that morning should go for
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a hike on the Palisade Cliffs along the Hudson River.
She remembered that morning she had woken up with a
strange feeling in her stomach. She brushed it off and
went off to make her height. To take her height,
the hike along the Palisades ends at a place called
Peanut Leap Falls. Only today, where the falls normally run,
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there was no water this time of year, they go
dry Erica in the past had climbed up the falls
and thought maybe she could try it again today to
get a nice photo from the top. She made the
climb quite easily and got the picture she wanted and
began to make her descent down the falls. The falls
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now were just a sixty foot rock face that she
found was going to be a lot harder to go
down than it was going up. As she was making
her descent, she was soon stuck with no real place
to put her feet. She couldn't go back up, and
just below was a rock that was full of what
looked to be slippery moss all along its top. She
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stayed put for like twenty minutes, waiting for someone to
come along the trail someone could help her, but no
one showed. This is odd because normally this was a
pretty busy height, but on this day she appeared to
be the only one. So after about twenty minutes, she
decided she'd just have to give it a try and
began to step down onto the mossy covered rock below.
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She took a leap of faith and stepped onto it
the rock, and instantly regretted her decision. Her foot slipped
out from underneath her, and she tumbled down the cliff,
falling sixty feet on top of the boulders below.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh dude, that's a long fall.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You imagine. I was thinking about this because somewhere near
where we live, there's a place called the quarry. You remember,
you know it? I mean it's we called it the quarry.
You guys know what a quarry is a rock. We
have one near where me and Ryan grew up, closer
to his house. But uh, that was a fifty foot cliff.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, the pizza slice one they go.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That was the pizza slice was like twenty something, right,
but the actual cliffs were like fifty something feet at least,
And you don't realize how high that is until you're
looking down fifty feet jump in the water, until you
hit the water. Yeah, it's not gentle at fifty feet. No,
it hurts like hell, I only jumped off of the
top one time. Fifty four stories. Ah, that's yeah, quite
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four four and a half. Five ten foot is a story.
So yeah, that's six sixty six stories from where she.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Was essentially falling off the roof of the five story ohs, yeah,
give her.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Take onto boulders, not even onto like a soft ground
or anything like that. Erica was broken. She had broken ribs,
She broke her pelvis, her spinal cord, her ribs had
punctured her lung, and she was struggling for every breath.
She was suffocate. She remained unconscious for just over an hour,
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but when she came to, she was able to pull
her phone from her backpack and dial nine to one
to one. When the dispatcher answered, she wasn't able to
remember her name or where she was. She was just
able to tell them that she needed help. She said
she was dying. She was suffocating. Please help me. When
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they traced the call, the signal was bouncing off the
New Jersey cliffs and showing her to be in New York,
when in reality she was in New Jersey, so help
wasn't truly on its way. Erica laid on those boulders
for seven hours.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh man, excuse me.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
This is when she had her experience. She remembers separating
from her physical body. She found herself looking down upon
her body, and in that instant she realized that she
was not that there is something separate from her physical being,
and from that she learned that I don't die, that
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there is no death. There is something that survives death,
a soul, the spirit, whatever you want to call it.
It's consciousness. This was profound for her because she had
stated before this that all she believed in was what
she could sense with her five senses. But this proved
to be This proved to her to not be the case.
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There was more. At this point, Erica instantly had her
life flashed before her eyes. And this is a little
if you notice in these cases, I'm doing it. I've
done these. A lot of people have the life the
Life review or whatever, then it never seems to be
the same order. Yeah, every not everybody, but most people
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seem to have some kind of review or whatever sums
after they go to the lie sums before or whatever.
But a lot of people claim that they have this review.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, it makes it more or believable to me.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, so many people. There's so many of these cases.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You wouldn't want the stories to be identical because then
it sounds like worshit. But they're all so varied, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
And I'll probably discuss it later too, But I think
what people see on the other side is a lot
of it is how they can picture it and interpret
it to take it in. You guys, hear any banging.
Our kids are upstairs being obnoxious. We're gonna have to
yell at them in a minute. So Erica instantly had
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her life flashed before her eyes. This is what she
described as her life review. She had grown up with
a lot of childhood trauma and had struggled with addiction.
She said she was a sick and wounded human at
this time in her life. She also said that she
was a huge atheist. She was actually causing others around
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her more harm when she truly should have been helping
them to have relief from their own suffering. She was
not living her soul le's purpose. This is what she got.
On the other side, she saw that her suffering was
actually being transmitted to those around her. She learned about
karma and how it affects people and not just ourselves,
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and how it determines where we go next. And this
all comes There's a lot of different religions that believe
in karma, and uh, you know there has to be
something to it. You treat people like shit, I think
eventually you're gonna ei You're gonna pay for it in
this life, or you're gonna pay somehow.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Truthfully, you should, right, you would think so what you
put out is what you get back. I would think
it's fair, fair, fair.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Play, Right, Yeah, you would think so. I mean, we've
all done shitty stuff and we've all had shitty stuff
done to us.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You do good things, you get good things. If you're
a piece of shit, you get it coming back.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You notice, if you've been in ask to somebody, you
do seem to get it back. And if you if
you treat people right, you know, you get treated right. So, yeah,
I truly believe there's something to it, for sure, But
Erica said there wasn't anyone judge her, but she was
judging herself. It was like an honest assessment of herself
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from herself. She claimed this had created a huge heart
expansion in her. That's how she described it, deep compassion
for the suffering in the world. She believes now that
the earth is actually a school and everything we do
is to teach us how to live with our soul's
purpose to fully embody love. I believe we're here for
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a purpose too, you know, we all come here to learn. Yeah.
Next came the white Light experience. Remember before this, Erica
was a huge atheist. She had no problem expressing that
she believed there was no God. She believed this so
much that it was the night before she took that
tumble down the cliff to the rocks below, that she
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had actually had a fight with her sisters while at
a party about how there was no God. She remembered
making her cry that night. The very next morning she
set off on the hike that would change that belief forever.
She described the light as possibly God or the ultimate
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consciousness or the Spirit. She claimed it taught her about
how it was everything every molecule that has ever existed,
and that it was the most incredible, unspeakable amount of
love and the wisdom that came from that energy as well,
that we are all fully connected. When all this happened,
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there was an off duty firefighter who'd been listening in
on the call, and he himself had an intuition, a
gut instinct that he knew where Erica was. He set
off on a couple mile hike and he found Erica
a rate where he had pictured she would be. So,
I mean, literally, this dude just happens to be listening
in the call. He's a firefighter, he's off duty, he's
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at home, just chilling, and he gets this intuition like
I know where she is. I know where this girl is.
Sets off and she is right where he thought she was.
And I mean, they had no idea. This was literally
bouncing off of the cliffs, so they had no idea
where she was. At this point, Erica was still on
the other side. She had made the decision that she
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needs to come back because her mission was not complete.
As she re entered her body, she opened her eyes
just as she heard a voice yelled to her. Erica
it was the fireman. He had arrived at the exact
time that she had returned. A rescue boat was called
and they took Erica down the Hudson and Life Lighter
to the hospital, where she remained over a month. After
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she was eventually released, she did another month of physical
rehab from home, where she still remained bedridden or in
a wheelchair for another six months. She claims that throughout
that time she was undergoing a massive transformation. She had
a huge spiritual awakening. She could now see energy and
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feel energy. Her heart became more open. She believed she
could feel others suffering around her. She was way more
attuned to higher frequencies. Electronic things around her would break.
The ceiling fan in her room would move without being
turned on. The curtains would move without any wind. She
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went through several cell phones and computers. They were just
they were breaking her, malfunctioning after when she would use them.
She now believes she's here to help others and is
now a true believer. She no longer has the fear
of death because she knows and that is a true gift.
So I've heard this a little bit, but notded to
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this effect that after somebody had near death. I looked
into it after reading this, and I guess there's quite
a few people that have like issues with electronics and
lights and almost like paranormal type stuff also that seems
to happen around them after a near death experience. I mean,
I think I may have said that in one of
the other cases, but.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Well, I mean it kind of stands to reason if
you've been on the other side, then maybe there's still
like a you know, part of the energy comes with
you with a doorway still a cross open or something something.
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's what I've always said with me, you know, we
talked about it before, like it seemed like maybe because
I had a near death experience as a kid, that's
maybe why I had all these ghostly experiences and stuff in.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
My life later often comes back with you. Or maybe
the doors.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Something open, you know. I always thought of it as
like a light, and uh, because some people said that
it was like that there to the spirit's like a lighthouse. Yeah,
I always pictured myself as like that dim light in
the basement in the corner. I've always been a dim light.
But no, it's something like that where it's just you know,
a little you see, if something's gonna happen, it will
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probably happen around me or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, and the movie Insidious, she says in terms of
like the spirit world, she says, be careful when you
call out, because they all hear you, Like, even if
you went it's only one of them, they all hear.
And that kind of makes sense, Like that's if you're
calling the spirit world. You can't make like an individual call.
You're just calling into the spirit world. So you might
get the person you're calling, but.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
You might get a good one, you might get more
of it. Yeah, that's actually scary.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, it's very scary. Well it's a horror movie, so supposed.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
To supposed to be scary. So that's her story.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That was a good one, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The next one we got in March twenty nineteen. I'm
gonna have to do a name here, so guys buckle up.
Twenty nineteen. Betty got dang. No, that sounds legit for shit.
Sure that is godango cadag Now, I think that's right.
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Was not the person she is now. She grew up
in a very dysfunctional home and that's a I noticed
that too. A lot of these I'll a lot of
the people that have these experiences seem to have been
on the wrong course, you know what I mean, And
it is more likely to happen to somebody like that,
I would think. She lived in chaos, abuse and began
using drugs at a very early age. Her parents were addicts,
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and they were actually the ones who taught her to use.
She said. In two thousand and five, her parents both
decided to quit using drugs, and they did that by
both committing suicide. Jesus Yeah. Betty was twenty three and
her sister was eighteen at the time. This caused her
to spiral even deeper into her addiction. She claimed to
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have an onset of a spiritual awakening brought on by
an overdose. Betty died and says she went to heaven.
At the time she went to heaven, she described herself
as a devout atheist. She would rant about how there
was no God. She was an orphan, a drug addict,
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a meth head, prostitute, strung out on heroin, a liar,
a thief, and there she was finding herself in heaven,
surrounded by unconditional love and bright light. She remembers thinking, Wow,
I am so high. I believe I'm talking to God.
What a trip. But it became clear to her real
fast that that was not the case. And can you
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imagine if you've been a drug addict all these times,
especially doing heroin or meth and all this stuff. You know,
it doesn't seem like she had a drug a choice.
She had a lot of them. Yeah, and it would
be really hard to believe. And when we look at it,
it's like, oh, she was tripping. She's tripping her ass off.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's what I would think. I'm so fucked up.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, looking at God, like, whoa dude, He's just shaking
his head. Oh, Scott being Scott. While she was in
this space, she claims that she was taken through her
pre birth planning. So this one's a little different. I
hadn't heard too much about this. I've seen a little
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bit about it. She was shown that her as a soul,
had chosen her life. I've heard that before, But she
had chosen her life before she'd even come to earth.
She chose her parents and her family, every sexual partner,
even the partners where she was the abuser in their lives.
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She had made all these decisions. She said to her,
it was like a video game. While she was picking
all these life experiences, she saw herself in like a
grocery store. She had this empty cart, and there was
a man. He was wearing a plaid blazer and a fedora,
and he said, okay, pick your life, she claimed. She
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started picking things that looked like cereal boxes, but they
had things written on them. She picked to be an addict.
She picked a ton of adversity and hardship. She also
picked things that she hadn't experienced yet, recovery, overcoming, and triumph.
All these dreams and goals. But these were all the
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things that had not happened yet in her life. She
begged them to stay in the space, but they told
her she was a spiritual soldier. She had volunteered to
come back to uplift the consciousness of the planet, and
she had to go back for her mission. They explained
that the first half of her life was like boot camp.
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She said, no, I'm okay, I'm gonna stay here. Imagine
you're talking to God. You need to go back now.
I'm all right, I'm good. Pass. She said, I'm not
interested in doing that, and they said, no, you have
to go back. She says she acted like a small child.
She started stomping her feet and pounding her fists, saying,
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I will not go back. I will not go back,
guessing that doesn't work with God. Yeah, I will hold
my path. She actually said to them, you don't tell
us that earth is actually what Earth is actually like,
it's too hard, it's too challenging. There's no way I
can do it. She literally threw temper tantrum. And I've
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heard that before too. Yeah, and the spirit on the
other side is like kind of laughing at him, like
do you realize what you're doing here? You know you
have no power here. She had a thought and she
said it out loud. She said, well, I definitely can't
go back to her. They agreed, and so, okay, you
don't have to go back into her, but you have
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to go back. They then showed her three babies. Then
they showed her the baby that she would going back
as remember, she's seeing this all like if it's a
video game. She said that the baby had a list
of what she called it's stats. They show her. They
showed her her ethnicity, the gender, where she would be born,
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her family line, and her adversities. It was even more
difficult than what she'd already been through. She threw up
her hands and said, I can't go through all of that.
I cannot start from zero. I'll go back into her
referring to herself. She referred to herself as her because
she as they all have a disconnect from that body.
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Once they're out of that body, it's attached. It's another person. Say,
like when they when they went back into the body,
I think that was possibly Eban Alexander felt like it
was putting on a dirty, dirty suit, like he was
climbing back into like a filthy dirty You know.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Imagine what you would feel like getting back into that body.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But yeah, god, this one was an overdose. We can't
imagine the the other one that's done, the one that
fell off the cliff. You know, you gotta crawl back
into that pain. It's not like you just come back
and everything in school. You come back into pain and agony.
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But after she said she'd go back, she almost instantly
found herself back. She didn't even believe that what she
had just seen. She actually shrugged it all off as
a drug induced psychosis. None of this could would be
part of her life, So she went back to her
old life, but soon the universe would make her aware
that it was real. She states that when she was there,
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she got two very clear messages. One you have to
go back, and two you have to quit doing drugs.
It's time for your mission. Things started to happen around
her things she couldn't explain. All of her dealers at
the same time decided to turn their life around and
stop selling drugs, every one of them at almost the
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exact same time. None of these people even knew each other.
She no longer had a way to even get drugs.
I mean, what's the odds of that? I believe she
said it was like five or six of them all
at the same time, just decided, I'm not going to
sell drugs anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
How many deals do you need?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
She must be right either that they all got together
and they're like, she's so, we really need to tell
her we quit. When she was actually able to find drugs,
she found that they no longer worked for her. She
would take them and there was no effect. She began
to have major withdrawals. On around day three of her withdrawals,
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she was so incredibly sick. She had been she had
been in an opioid addict for over twenty years. She
remembers thinking that she couldn't even try and kill herself
because she was in too much pain to even think
of how she would do it. She wouldn't even be
able to pull it off. And that's a crazy thought.
I mean, her thought is I would kill myself, but
(34:30):
I can't even I can't even possibly do it because
I'm in so much agony. During this time, she heard
a voice, a voice that said she could request what
she wanted fixed. She was desperate and said, okay, she
wanted her pain receptors and neurotransmitters fixed. This is specifically
what she asked for. She said, I want I no
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longer want to be dependent on heroin. She didn't say
she wanted to be healed of her drug addiction, because
in her head, she definitely still wanted to do those
other drugs. She just didn't want to be dependent on heroin.
And you think about it, this was this girl's whole life,
her whole life. She grew up with drugs. Her parents
were drug addicts. They got her to do drugs. She's
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been on drugs her entire life.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
No, it's in her DNA at this point.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yep. The voice said, lay back and count back from ten.
She said, it was like thumbs making xes on her forehead.
In her mind's eye, she saw two little men show up.
This is in her head, and in front of them
appeared like two lawnmowers. They took hold of them mowers
and went in opposite directions. They began walking through the
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crevices of her mind. As they walked, she felt hot,
intense tinglings, like they were healing her. Then she felt
a palm on her forehead, and then like a plunger,
as it plunged down, there was a bright flash of light,
and as it faded away, she was healed. She was
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no longer in Heroin withdrawals. She felt fine, no more pain.
After that, it became clear to her something had happened
and she needed to follow a different path, But she
wasn't sure how to do it, so she followed her intuition.
She had an intuition to go on to the subway
with no destination. She just got on the train. Sitting
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across from her was a man and he was wearing
a twelve step Fellowship necklace. She heard a voice in
her head say, that's your path. Follow him to a
meeting and she did. That was June first, twenty nineteen,
and she's been cleaned from that day since. She went
to several meetings, and she went into several meetings in
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that day. In the days after, she found herself sitting
across from the director of a long term rehab She
had a thought that she didn't know how to be
a person without drugs, and how would she she been
on drugs or entire life. She made a plan in
her head that she was going to talk to that
woman after the meeting and begged for her for a
bed in her facility so she could start a new life.
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She was working up the courage throughout the meeting, but
once the meeting was over, she went to talk to
the lady, but she was gone. She'd left early. She
felt crazy, defeated. She walked out onto the street and
down to the bus stop. She boarded the bus and
when when it came, she sat down, excuse me, the
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bus obviously already came. She boarded the bus and sat down,
and there on the bus was the lady from the meeting.
Somehow she had left early but still ended up on
the same bus as her. She burst out, telling her
what had happened, how she wanted to talk to her,
how she was gone, and how she thought she was
(37:55):
an angel. Please help me, Please help me. The lady said, yes,
we have a bed. Come by tomorrow and we will
help you. She spent the next day. Excuse me, She
went there the next day with only the clothes on
her back. She stayed in rehab for over seventeen months,
(38:15):
no computers, no phones. She just learned everything she could
about spirituality. I can't even talk spirituality, spirituality, that word.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Splice all those together.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
You probably get you guys. Take parts of those, put
them together spirituality.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Seventeen fucking months in rehab. Holy shit.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You know what, though, that seems to be the only
way it works for a lot of people. I mean, yes,
you have to be away from it for such.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
A long attic. She was an attic. I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
But I've seen rehab not work a lot because people
are in there for three or six months and then
they come out and they're way back to it. Yeah,
you know, it really takes. It takes that long being
separated from it, not just to get your get away
from the with the withdrawal and everything you have, your life.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Has to show you got to reset everything.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, your life has to change, and you go out,
it's the same people around, it's the same situation. You know,
you go right back to it.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Hey, you got to you gotta have a whole new
circle when you get out after that lifestyle, I would think.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
You have to. You almost have to move to a
whole new location and everything. So she read everything she
could get her hands on. It was empowering for her,
she believed. With this new download of her pre birth planning,
it was an instant shift and consciousness. Things no longer
happened to her, but happened for her. She was no
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longer a victim of her circumstances. She knew she had
chosen it. So with her story, it's like what I said,
it's like she saw the whole thing. I don't know
if it's like a way that they can show it
to her so she could understand it better, Like she
was like in a grocery store picking out stuff, and
then when they showed her the baby that she would
(39:58):
go back to. It was like a video game for her.
They all see things that look pretty modern, you know
what I mean. Like one one story I was listening to,
guy was looking at like a tablet, and this is
like in the seventies or eighties.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Maybe it's shown to you in the way that you
can best understand it for your personal experience.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's it. And that's just maybe what you've learned in
that lifetime that you just had or what you yeah,
and it's just showed to you that way.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
It would be like it'd be presented to me in
a football game.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Or right something like that. It'd be read to be really.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Slowly, single syllabri Listen closely, Scott, Scott like life, life good,
it's got Scott. Look the squirrel, big words bad.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
He's gone. He's gone again. We lost him. Bring them
back over here. I'm not gonna go back. I'm staying.
That's what I love is when they when they tell them, no,
I'm not going back. No you have to go back.
Oh there's zero chance I'm doing that. All right. I
got one more story for you, guys. Someone's a little
(41:06):
bit shorter. We'll wrap it up with this one. On
June tenth, twenty twenty, Chad Osinga was riding his motorcycle
with six others from his motorcycle club that he belonged to.
He was driving south on I ninety five in Virginia.
He was cruising along and enjoying his ride when the
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club came up on a part of the interstate where
they were doing some construction. They were adding a lane,
so there was that area with barricades, you know, those
concrete barriers you see all along the highway. Chad was
all of a sudden being run off out of his
lane by a mini van that had begun to come over,
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apparently unaware that he was even there. And that's the thing. Man,
you're on a motorcycle. It's tough to see a motorcycle,
and if you're on a motorcycle, you really get to
look out for other people. Yeah. I had a motorcycle
and I was working in the er in Nebraska and
we get a lot of the traumas we were the
trauma hospital and the stuff I saw coming into the er,
(42:11):
I sold my motorcycle like soon after I saw some shit,
and yeah, it scared the hell out of me. I
actually sold my bike to someone else who was in respiratory.
Within me. You might not want to go to the
er this week. You don't want to see what's happening
down there. But the summertime, they always picked up with
the motorcycle accidents. Yeah, so he didn't notice it was
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happening until it was too late. He was being pushed
into the edge of the road where he was met
with one of those concrete barriers. Both the impact from
the van and his motorcycle clidding head on with the
barrier set Chad flying headfirst over it and straight into
the construction zone. Other people in the club saw what
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had happened. They stopped and ran to Chad and began
to administer first aid. Nine to one one was called
and the guy stayed with him until the squad arrived
and started to transfer him to the nearest hospital. It
wasn't long after that they picked Chad up and headed
out that It wasn't long after they picked up Chad
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and headed out that Chad's heart stopped. The ambulance crew
began CPR and were able to stabilize him until they
were able to get him to the University Hospital in Richmond, Virginia.
Chad remembers when he did flatline that everything went black,
but that was all that he remembered. He was admitted
to the er, where it was discovered that Chad was
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in need of emergency surgery. He was taken to surgery
within minutes of his arrival at the hospital. During surgery,
they discovered other problems that needed to be addressed that
were not originally seen on the first MRI, So after
the first surgery was complete, Chad was moved to the
ICU to recover while they were planning and scheduling his
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next surgery. A few days later, when they're prepared to
take Chad back for his next surgery, the doctor came
to do her pre surgery meeting with the patient. While
the doctor was explaining what they were about to do
and asking Chad several questions, he began to notice he
was answering the questions and his words seemed to be slurred.
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Things all of a sudden got real hot for him,
and he had a quick sense of panic. Everything went
black for a second time, and then the next thing
he knows, he could see all the nurses pulling him
into the next room. They moved him from the stretcher
to the table. But Chad is watching it like a movie,
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like he has front row seats and everything is before him.
He sees the doctors working on him and the nurses
are panicked. But for Chad, in this space, time didn't exist.
Nothing was being said, but everything was known, which was
real interesting to hear when I heard that quote. Nothing
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was being said, but everything was known. So he knew
everything that was happening without hearing any words or anything,
you know, just that all knowing. While he's watching this
all take place in front of him. He remembers that
he was at absolute peace. He says he became awareness itself.
(45:26):
It was one of the most freeing moments of his life.
He was not out for long. He was resuscitated quickly.
When all this was taking place, it was like it
was in slow motion. For Chad. This is when things
really hit home for him. After coming back, things were different. Well,
we didn't mention before the accident. Chad he was a mess.
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He was an alcoholic and he was drinking a fit
of whiskey a night. He claimed. He was just lost.
He was a former military a guy that has some
demons and he was dealing with them. He was unaware
as to how he would overcome those things, and it
was destroying him and his family. Chad claims in this
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time on the other side, he was just awareness. He
didn't go anywhere. He didn't travel to another universe. He
was just existence itself. And this one man. It it
reminds me because this is a little different than the
other things. But they all have a tendency to say
like we're all one, you know, you're like in a consciousness,
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but you're all like, like the last lady said that,
it just this just existence is like every molecule, every anything,
We're all just connected. Yeah, But with him, he's like
it was just existence, you know, which was odd. Once returned,
he was just different. Something had changed. He had met
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his true self when he passed, and he believed now
that this life isn't real. The experiences that we have
here is very much like a movie, and as awareness,
we are watching this movie through this first person experience
that's given to us with this body. He just knew
these things. Now, this was all happen. This all happened
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during COVID, so Chad was isolated from others, no visitors,
He had no phone, it was destroyed in the accident.
He said he was sitting in the room alone for
seven days and it was the most spiritual moment he'd
had in his entire life. When he came home he
was completely different. He no longer had an urge to drink.
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This is very similar to the first story. He spent
the next year having surgery after surgery, having to learn
to walk again, but through it all he had a
peaceful attitude towards it all because he now believed that
it wasn't actually happening to him. He just saw life differently.
Now to this day, Chad no longer drinks. He changed
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his entire life from the day of his experience on.
When I was listening to this and reading about this one,
I was thinking, and this is off topic a little bit,
but you wonder if everybody is connected. You see all
these people in your life and everything, if this is
what you believe, you know you come here as a consciousness.
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Are there people out there that don't have a soul
in them? Like non player?
Speaker 2 (48:30):
You know?
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You see these people that cause havoc in people's lives,
and you wonder if they're just there for the experience
or if they actually have I was just thinking of that.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Off the couple jokers, off the shuffled into the deck
is entirely possible. I meet people on a daily basis.
I don't want to think I'm fucking connected to it anyway.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
You don't think are they real? Are they? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Because I mean this, I was like yelling at the
building in an alleyway, and I don't.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Want to, oh, yeah, connected to him, my brother? Yeah.
I mean you wonder if there's like I don't know
if you believe all of it. Are there's things that
are put out there to be an adversary or are
those also other souls going through whatever they There's just
so much. I don't know, I thought, I do. I
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do believe that. And now you can call it heaven,
you can call it the other side. I don't know.
I get into the whole dimensions thing when you talk
about this and all this stuff with aliens and everything.
I don't know. There's just so much to take in.
I do believe for this, I do believe that you
there the way these things tend to go. I was
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listening to another one and the guy literally during his
view in heaven or the after or whatever you want
to call it, the upside down, he said that he
would view other other universes, other planets, and you know
they we're not just like stuck here on the on
(49:55):
Earth that we can go anywhere anywhere in the universe.
You know, you think of that, I mean, maybe you're
not even human the next time around. Yeah, I mean,
it's all reincarnation. You know. It goes to those kids
that I've talked about in the reincarnation episodes. I mean,
they're living more than one life. They're coming back, they're
seeing the other side. You know. Some of the kids
(50:15):
said that they chose, like with this one, chose that
they were coming back and who they were gonna be.
They chose him for the parents. We heard that and
the reincarnation stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
There's a couple of themes that run throughout all these Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
It's so many, there's so many of these stories out there.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
But this guy comes back with a complete mental and
spiritual reset, just a reevaluation on life.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, and so did the other two. And it's like
they have this spiritual awakening. And then, like he said,
he sat in that room for seven days and it
was the most spiritual life. I don't know, lost my
mind being in a room for over a day or
two without anything, you know.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
It's like thirty five minutes, I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (50:51):
And he was round during COVID there was no we
didn't let patients families come in. There was there was
poor poor people that passed the way it never got
to see their family because they couldn't come in. Some
of them got to see them from the window outside
of their room or something like that, but that didn't
always work out, you know. And so I mean, yeah,
he was completely isolated. He may have had TV, but
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half the time some of these hospitals of the internet
doesn't work. You don't have you know, you're thinking this
day and age, but no, yeah, you know, so, yeah,
i'd have gone nuts in that room. Absolutely. Anyways, that's
what I got for this one.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
That was a good story.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
I like that a lot. But all right, guys, well
we were about to head over to the fire pit.
We will catch you over there. I guess you don't
what's imisk. So we noticed in the comments that I
think it was Manny right has said that the fire
(51:48):
pit was sounded funky, and he's right. It was like
we did not notice. It's gonna it's not perfect this
week either. It should be better than what it has been.
But we will get that re recorded and get it fixed.
Sorry about the guys, we didn't even realize that was happening.
If you guys hear stuff like that, feel free to
let us know.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I said something a long time ago, but we were
experiencing a bunch of sound issues at the time and
I didn't Oh, we.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Had some shit going on, So yeah, that was Ryan's fault.
I accept. No, we'll get it fixed. Sorry about the quality.
We will get it fixed. Hopefully it's better than it was,
but we'll get there. So all right, Ryan's got a
fire pit, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
This week's week's fire pit comes to us from wes
Hey Fellas. I found your podcast last summer and managed
to power through all of your episodes. I was a
traveling installation tech, so I drove a lot. You guys
kept me entertained while I was driving through some areas
with no signal. I retired from the Navy last year
after twenty three years of service. I spent some time
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in the shipyard in Portsmouth, New Hampshire a few times.
I have some good stories to share, some scary, but
mostly funny. So here's my funny story where I almost
had to do a breaking entering to check on one
of my sailors. I was home after a doctor's appointment
and I got a phone call from one of my sailors.
One guy was supposed to be at work but wasn't.
He tried calling him and got no answer. I tried
(53:10):
calling several times, and so did others I worked with.
I called my boss and told him of the predicament.
This sailor had recently had some wife troubles and she
wasn't with him at the time. I kind of worried
he was unconscious or something worse inside. I kind of
remember which house was his in the Navy housing, So
I left my house and went looking for his piece
(53:31):
of shit read s ten pickup. I drove all over
and was calling my boss to let him know. I
found his house, knocked on the door and looked to
see if anything was unlocked. I was really worried at
the time and called my boss again and told him
I was about to kick in the door and make
sure he was wasn't dead or something. Finally, the sailor
(53:52):
called me back. He had left his phone in his
buddy's car. They were in a junkyard in Massachusetts and
couldn't answer. I got off the phone with him and
called my boss back and told him. Luckily, this all
happened quick enough that our command master chief had not
yet been called, so that it was a running joke
for a while that he had to answer his phone
so Chief wouldn't come kick his door in. I have
(54:15):
some more stories, so I'll be sending them your way.
Thanks for the laughs, and keep it up, wesh. He
also says sorry for your recent loss, which is very nice.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, we appreciate that, and thanks for your service. Absolutely
twenty three years in the military. That's great with it,
and part of it right down the road from here. Yeah,
so yeah, that's some stomping grounds there.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
At least briefly, briefly in New England.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, I almost got arrested at a McDonald's right around
the corner from where you are.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I'm sure a lot of guys have.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
I think you probably do. That was over there, like
right near piece a lot a lot. So thank you
for the story. We really appreciate you sending that and
taking the time and writing it down and sending it in.
You guys, if you have a story, send it into
Beyond the Shadows two o seven at gmail dot com
or hit us up on any of our socials. We'll
put another poll on this one. We'll get that fire
(55:05):
pit stuff fixed. If you get a chance, get over
rate review us. We really appreciate that helps us get out,
and we appreciate you, and we will catch you in
the next one letter. Guys,
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