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He's definitely part of the shadow.
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Speaker 2 (02:06):
If you can give us that one hundredth review and a.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Fire pit, wow, you'd be our favorite. Al Right, guys,
what's in the news, guys?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So, first up, we have a seventy five year old
married man in China named only as Jiang So. Jiang
is long married with adult kids, and his wife recently
scolded him for spending way too much time on his phone.
So he got upset and told her that there is
someone else he's been chatting with and that he wants
a divorce.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Now was adult kids had to break the news to
him that his beautiful new love interest was just an
AI avatar.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's rough.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm still not sure he understands it.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, I don't think he quite knows what that means.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You just left mom for a cartoons. The article doesn't
how it ended, but I would love to see the
footage of him walking that back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I can't see myself doing that, but I could totally
see my wife leaving me for Ai. It's a way
better deal than what she's stuck in.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
But even when somebody points out it's Aye, she's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I know, Yeah, I totally knew that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I could shut him off. Try that and fucking Scott.
A thirty one year old postal worker in Carson, California,
could be facing up to thirty years in prison for
a string of charges, including theft and bank fraud, but
authorities wouldn't have even looked her way. If thirty one
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year old Mary Ann mcdammit didn't feel the need to
go on that is her name.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I double checked it. I didn't guess that far.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
She felt the need to go on social media again,
how many this is like a dozen times we've covered
this and posted pictures of herself with wads of cash,
a bunch of luxury goods, and tropical vacations that fire
exceed her tax bracket. Turns out, while working for the government,
she would steal mail, cash, any check she found, activate
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credit cards and debit cards, and then use the personal
information that she got to create new accounts. God man,
So she was hitting them every which way.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So dumb. So that's me. I'm gonna go online and
show myself with a bunch of ventilators for sale. WHOA
check this out? She really cheap, barely used. Just put
her in my Facebook page.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's what people, that's what. Basically, you're you're a postal
worker and she's posing with like reams of cash and
just you know, while rolllexes. When the when they arrest her,
she was wearing a rolex like you're a postal worker.
You can't afford a rolex.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Tell Grandma quit sending cash in the mail that five
dollars or that five dollars check because she was cashing
those two.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Uh. Even after the Feds conducted their initial search and
they left with their evidence, she was still using the
stolen credit cards, the few that they didn't find, Like,
clearly not a real think tank this woman.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah right, but yeah, I mean, if you're already busted,
what are you gonna buy? They bust you for spending
with like twenty credit cards, what's twenty two?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Stealing the mail?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, oh, that's federals, federal fans. You messed with
someone's mailbox, just a federal offense.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah. I remember people in high school would do the
mailbox baseball. I never did because my mother worked for
the post office, and I knew, damn will you you
were gonna get a fuck load of trouble for that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I definitely played. It's a small town Maine. What else
was there to do?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I did tons of stupid ship but I didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, No, your mom being postmaster, that's a tough one
to explain. Yeah, you'd you'd have been in so much trouble.
Someone blew always someone blew one of ours up with
an M eight really, yeah, blewed apart and the mail
was in it. No, it's the people next door, you know.
(05:58):
It was in h Yeah, I know. So.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Lastly, we have a man in his sixties who works
as an educator in Okayama, Japan, so he was recently
let go from his job for misconduct. But yeah, I
mean today you hear all kinds of stuff about teachers banging,
students coming into work drunk, so stories like this are
not shocking, sadly, So what was this sick bastard up to,
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you may ask yourself. Working a part time job on
the side, piece a shit, that's what he did. Not
a drug dealer, not only fans or anything like that.
He was a convenience store clerk on the.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Side, and according to them, should have been ashamed of himself.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yes, that's exactly what this said.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
And he only did this during non school hours. It
wasn't like he was calling into the school to go
work at the convenience tour. They weren't overlapping, not interfering.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's not like he was putting close of himself up
on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
With everybody's getting over hards today, I haven't been cracked.
So basically, a parent sees him there working at a
convenience store, rats him out to the board of education.
You'd think they'd be like, who gives a fuck? But
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now the principal went to the store to see that
he was working there and then immediately fired him. And
like Scott just said, and he then issues an apology
to the parents and the students of the school for
this guy's despicable behavior.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh he's a crap trying to make money for its family.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I had to look around because I couldn't even figure
out the article didn't really cover why he was let go,
like what the infraction was. But apparently in Japan it's
not unusual for a job contract or employment contract to
include a stipulation that says you will not work elsewhere
and you won't receive any funds from any other source.
But I mean, give the guy a fucking livable wage
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and he wouldn't be working at a convenience.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And you know, some people just work extra. This is
the first time in my life, like the last four
or five years, that I didn't have two jobs, but
I guess they do. This podcast is a goddamn job
mispronouncing words. It's not easy. And this one today comes
from France. Buckle up. Everything I say, I'm just gonna
say with confidence. You guys won't even know how bad
(08:16):
it's like, except for you people from France.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
That news story is kind of it's just kind of disgraceful, honestly. Yeah,
I can't believe that ridiculous work in an extra job
to keep himself afloating.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Different for different cultures, absolutely, yeah, that would be that
would be a positive thing here some of us. Yeah,
actually take the initiative to go get another job.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Absolutely. You do what you gotta do to make ends meet.
So that's it for the news this week. What do
you get going on for us?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So I've got another heist. This is Hollywood style.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Nice looking forward to what we'll be right, bad guys.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
All right, we're headed to France. Picture kid growing up
in Craile, France, back in the nineteen seventies. That's Ray
Dawn Fayid born May tenth, nineteen seventy two to Algerian
parents who moved to France in nineteen sixty nine. Crail,
a working class town rough around the edges, with those
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gritty suburbs that shape you fast. Faid one of eleven kids. Yeah, eleven,
eight brothers, three sisters, a packed house. Well you know
what that makes twelve kids? My math is fuzzy. So
if he's got eight, bro, if you forgot your plus
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one yeah, he's one. Eleven kids. Twelve kids.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
When you get that counts, I mean after ten, you
just it's just ten plus. There were three of us
my dad get confused. I imagine them as twelve.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
All right, Eight brothers, three sisters, a packed house. His
dad worked nights at a chemical factory and viller Saint
Paul grinding to keep the family afloat. His mom, Zora,
held it all together at home, raising this big crew
with a strict hand but a lot of love. Red
Wan was the second youngest, and his sister called him
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the spoiled one, always cracking jokes, making people laugh. Kid
had charm even back then. But life wasn't easy. The
Faid family lived in ban Lewes, those tough, low income
suburbs around Paris, where trouble never was never far off,
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money was tight, and the streets were full of temptation.
Fayi's neighborhood was a mix of hardware king folks and
guys already deep in petty crime. You probably hear me.
I'll probably call him Faiyid through most of this. Yeah,
did I mess up his first name? On the regular
He was sharp, though, and soaked it all in by
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his teens, he was already picking up the hustle vibe
from the other kids. His dad was a tough guy,
a former Algerian resistance fighter who'd been jailed by the
French back in the day. Dere g stories of griff
probably stuck with Fayid even if it even if he
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didn't know it yet. But things took a turn in
nineteen eighty eight. Faid was sixteen when his dad bailed,
leaving the family and headed back to Algeria to start over.
That hit hard, And how hard was that for his
mom somewhere between eleven and twelve kids by herself.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah that's what news. Yeah, good dad, twelve kids and
you just start I'm just going to start up, you
know what I realized. Twelve kisses a lot. I'm just
gonna hit replay, get a do over button. I'm sure
that happens.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Unreal. This is in the nineteen eighty eight, you know.
A couple of years later, in nineteen ninety one, his
mom passed away from leukemia. Faid was nineteen, already dabbling
in small time trouble, and losing her shook him. With
his parents gone, Feid leaned on his brothers. They were tight,
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and some of them were already dipping into crime. He
wasn't just following their lead. He was finding his own path.
Even as a kid, he loved movies, mimicking actors, doing
voices to make his siblings crack up. That flare for drama,
that charisma, it was there early. His sister said he
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was the guy that everyone liked, always sociable, always making
you laugh, but the charm had an edge. By his
late teens, he was running with a rough crowd, pulling
small jobs, learning the ropes of the street. Me get
the town Right is the band? Luis taught him how
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to move, how to talk, how to survive, and survive
he did, setting the stage for the wild life he led.
The bang Luess of Creole shaped Fai's young, teaching him
hustle and survival. But there was another world. He escaped
to movies. Even as a kid, Faid was obsessed with films.
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Growing up in that packed house with eleven siblings, Say
I got to.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Hear eleven siblings.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He sneaked into the living room after his parents went
to bed, huddled with his brothers watching old time crime
flicks on a beat up TV. He didn't just watch.
He absorbed them. By age six, he was mimicking lines,
doing voices, playing characters. His sister said he acted out
whole scenes, making everyone laugh, but you could tell he
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was studying every move. American movies were his jam. Gangster stories,
heist films, anything with a slick crew pulling off big jobs.
He loved the style, the planning, the way the bad
guys moved. That love stuck with him, and it wasn't
just kids stuff. Those films became his playbook when he
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stepped into crime. By his teens, Faid was already running
small time hustles, but his head was full of movie scenes.
He'd watched the classics, but he was drawn to the
heist films, ones where crooks were smart, not just brutal.
He rewine scenes, study how characters planned, how they talked
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their way out of trouble. His brothers noticed he wasn't
just playing around. He was thinking like those guys on screen.
When their dad left in nineteen eighty eight and their
mom died a few years later, Faid leaned harder into
the streets, but movies stayed his guide. He wasn't just
a thief. He saw himself as a director. Scripting his
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own jobs. So fast forward to the nineteen nineties. Faid
now is in his early twenties leading a crew pulling
arm robberies around Paris. He's not just some reckless kid anymore.
He's calculated and those movies he loved there is blueprint.
So let's talk about the high steep Pole, straight out
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of the films that shaped him. First up a job
in the mid nineteen nineties that screamed reservoir. Dogs can't
say reservoir right, It's a main thing, that's right. It's
not just me say it's a reservoirervoir. They're going to
make fun of You can.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Even help me fish.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
No, that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
From away. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
They don't get it. They've probably never had moxie. Good
for them, lucky bastards. If you've seen the Tarantino flick,
you know it's about a diamond heist gone messy, with
sharp suits, fake names in the crew. That's tight, but paranoid.
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Faid ate that up. Around nineteen ninety five, he and
his crew targeted a jewelry store in Paris suburb. He
planned it like he was Quentin Tarantino himself. Everyone and
his crew got a code name think mister Black, mister Red,
no real names, just like the movie. He made them rehearse,
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not just the robbery, but how they talked, how they moved,
all cool and professional. I mean, this dude did not
play around when he planned a heist, so much time
and energy went into it. He knew these movies cold ye,
and he used the movies. I mean he like seen
foreseeing his crimes. He had them wear dark suits and
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ties straight out of the film's opening scene because he
thought it gave them an edge. Nobody suspected a guy
in a suit right. The plan was simple but bold.
He hit the store at opening when security was light,
tied up the staff, smashed the cases and grabbed the
high value stuff. Faid even scripted lines for them to yell,
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keeping it sharp and scary, to control the room, and
they pulled it off, walking out with bags of diamonds
and gold, no shots fired. The cops were stumped for weeks,
no fingerprints, no clear leads. Fai's crew split up, laid load,
and he was in the clear. But that job gave
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him confidence. He wasn't just copying for style, He used
it for chaos. As a distraction, keeping everybody off bound
so they could vanish. Then there's the Point Break style heist,
which was a great movie. Yeah, it was nineteen ninety
seven when Faid took his movie obsession to another level.
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You got these surfers, dudes Robin Banks in California wearing
rubber masks of ex presidents to hide their face. It's fast,
flashy and all the adrenaline. I fai'd love that vibe.
He planned a bank job in a small town outside
of Paris, targeting local branch, bank branch. I'm not going
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to try to say the targeting a local bank branch.
He got his hands on some cheap Halloween masks, not
presidents like in the movies, but creepy ones like crown
clowns and monsters to throw off the witnesses.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Now I I would scare myselfarror. Well, No, the thing
I I I read a couple of different things, and
I'm not sure which one is actually true because I
went through a bunch of different infro on this. I
saw another thing where they said that he actually got
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a mask of French leaders, you know, like the what
is the French as at president is prime Minister.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Prime minister. Yeah, and different different people from that, but
I think they're harder to come by.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
But so if that's true, then he basically did the
same thing as the movie.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, either he did that or he had Halloween masks.
I saw different accounts. He didn't surf, but he channeled
that care free, ballsy energy from the film. His planning
was meticulous. He cased the bank for weeks, timing the
guard shift, mapping escape routes. His crew of four practiced
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like it was a movie set, running drills in an
empty warehouse. They stormed in ask on, yelling for everyone
to hit the floor, just like Bodie's crew in the film.
Fayid even had a guy stand at the door mimicking
Keanu Reeves cop character watching for trouble. They hit the
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bank at nine am when it was quiet, bagged about
one hundred thousand francs big money back then, and peeled
out in a stolen van. The mass worked witnesses couldn't
describe them, and the CCTV was grainy, but Fayid got cocky.
One of his crew spent the cash too fast, splashing
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it on cars and jewelry. I mean, this dude went out.
They were in a warehouse doing basically you know, it's
like rehearsal for like a movie. It's all the you know,
everything he did. He didn't play around.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He must have watched Goodfellas. Yeah right, de Niro was
telling everybody doing, don't buy anything, don't do anything.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, absolutely, I guarantee you that was one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Of his favorites. I'm sure everybody's favorite movies.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But there's not like a specific heist in that one.
I mean there's a huge one related to it, tons
of Yeah, but they don't go into it. You know
what happens, and then they don't.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You don't see it.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, so harder to pull that off. So, but they're
spending money on the cars and jewelry, and the cops
traced it back, and while I Fayiz slipped away, two
of his guys got nabbed. He laid load for months,
laid low for months, frustrated but still free, already thinking
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about his next score. Now. He wasn't just hooked on Hollywood.
He loved French crime films too, old school heist movies
with slick gangsters and clever plans. In nineteen ninety eight,
he pulled a job inspired by that French style hitting
a cash and transit van in the Paris suburbs. So
that's going to be like an armored truck. Those films
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showed patience detailed heist, so Fayid went all in on prep.
He spent months watching a brinkman that delivered cash to businesses.
He studied the routes, the driver's habits, even the way
the guards carried their guns. He wanted every detail locked down.
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His crew was small, just three guys. He trusted. They
didn't bother with mass this time. They wore construction vest
and hard hats, blending in like workers. Fayi's plan was
straight out of El Circled Reuge. Right, yeah, we're going
with that. Blocked the van's path with a fake roadwork
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set up, forced the guards out, and disarmed them without
a fight. He even had a guy play a fake
cop directing traffic to keep bystanders away. He didn't miss
a move. They hit the van one morning, got the
guards to open the back without a shot, and walked
off with one point two million francs in cash, clean professional.
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The cops had nothing, no prints, no witnesses who saw faces,
just the van left in a ditch.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
What's the uh, let's cut you off. What's the Franks two?
Dull or is roughly? I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I'm not sure either. You know, I was gonna
look it up and didn't. That's your job, right now,
you can look that up.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
We'll get back to you on that one. I'm just curious.
I don't I don't know the trams.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Actually, go ahead and look that up. I'll keep going. Ah.
But they had nothing. They had no prints, no witnesses,
nobody saw their faces. Nothing. His crews put the cash
and vanished into the parises underworld. This one was a win.
There was no arrest, no heat on him. He was
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starting to think he was untouchable. That's when hit goes bad.
Then there's this big then the big one. The heist
that echoed heat, the nineteen ninety five De Niro Paccino classic,
where a crew pulls off huge scores with military precision.
Fayid was obsessed with that film, especially the famous bank
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robbery scene with a shootout. In nineteen ninety seven, he
planned his own heat style job, targeting an armored car
depot in Villa Pint near Paris.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You got there, Oh yeah, I just got it up
a franc is equal to one point two for Usto
or not a huge difference.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
No, so you're talking in like one and a half
million dollars, Yeah, split up between four of them. So yeah,
not a bad haul. He's in take Yeah, no doubt,
seven point fifty three seventy five.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Apiece never overhead was some masks.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah. So this was his most ambitious heist yet. Like
de Niro's character, Faid wanted to look flawless. Every every
step was timed, every risk covered. He spent six months planning,
recruiting a bigger crew, eight guys, including a couple of
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ex cons who knew weapons. He got blueprints of the depot,
studied the alarm alarm systems, even bribed a security guard
for intel on the cash delivery schedule. Six months, six
months planning. The only problem eight dudes, eight dudes. Never
can keep quiet.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
The crews got to be.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
More people involved, almost certain that you're going to be fucked.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, but if I remember heat, there was a lot
of people involved, and he's sticking right to the sticking
right to the plan, you know. So the inspiration showed
in the gear they had black tactical vest hockey mask
automatic rifles, though Fad insisted on keeping things tight no
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reckless shooting. They practiced in a forest outside of his hometown,
running through the plan like a swat team, breaching the gates, neutralize,
neutralize The guards cracked the vault out in under ten minutes.
I Fight even quoted lines from the movie to keep
his crew focused, stuff like we're not here for the
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bank's money, We're here for our money. Actually, when he
was I didn't mention when he was doing the heist
for Point Break, one of them was like, I'm not
a crook. You remember that for that movie, and that's Nixon.
If they were actually wearing the other they may not
have realized the reference. But yeah, there was quite a few,
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and Point Break's got a ton of lines like that. Yeah.
So he even quoted lines from the movie to keep
his crew focused, stuff like we're not here for the
for the bank's money, We're here for our money. The
heightst went down in broad daylight, just like in the movies.
They hit the depot at seven am when the cash
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was being loaded for delivery. Two guys took out the
gate security, A faid and another led the charge inside,
shouting for everyone to get down. They bagged ten million francs,
huge for the time, and were out in nine minutes,
speeding off in two stolen cars. But like in the movie,
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things got messy, and that's why he shouldn't have picked
that movie. She got really messy in that movie. No,
it did not a lot of bullets flying Vlcimer.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I think he was the only one came out clean.
I believe.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I don't remember. I was going to rewatch it, but
there was so many of these movies. I'm like, I
can't watch all of these. A guard trip to silent
alarm and cops were closer than Fayid expected. A chase
kicked off on the A one Highway and his crew
ditched one car and split up. Faid made it to
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a safe house in Creole's hometown, but the heat was on.
Cops rated the crew's hideout over the next few weeks,
catching three guys. Fay got nabbed in nineteen ninety eight
and Amsterdam after Interpol tracked him across borders. He was cocky,
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thinking heat outsmart at everyone, but a tip from a
snitch did him in France locked him up for thirty
years though he soon show he wasn't done making headlines.
Those heists weren't just crimes. They were him living out
his movie fantasies, scripting his life like a director. From
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Reservoir Dogs, Sharp Suits to Point, break Mask, French film
precisions and Heat's Big Score. But in two thousand and nine,
after about eleven years, he sweet talks his way to parole,
playing the reformed guy, while inside he writes a book.
And here's a French name. You're going to have to
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figure that one out on your own. Nailed it. Here's
Robert from the suburbs to the big to big time crime.
It's his story packed with how films shaped his heist.
The book sells, it sells well, and FAYIV he is
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out there, a minor celebrity in twenty ten. So I
mean he's out. He was kind of like to the
people loved him. You know, at this point they thought
he was great. They hadn't hurt anybody. They stole a
lot of money, you know, steal from the rich, give
to himself was poor, you know. I mean it's he
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had a lot of a lot of people that thought
he was great.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He served thirty years of matter no.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
He did thirty. He only served. Yeah, he got out early.
So it was in twenty ten at a Paris film
event he met a a producer tied to the French
crime flicks that he'd actually pulled some of his jobs
off of. So Faid all charm tells him, your movies
were my blueprint for every job. The producer was stunned,
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half amused, as Fayid describes mimicking their scenes. It's a
wild moment by Faid already was eyeing his next act
for some reason. This guy just can't quit crime. He's
itching for another score. So you look, I mean he
started back in the early nineties. It was eighty eight ninety. Anyways,
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it's twenty ten and he's still planning another heist. You know,
he's been in jail. So in twenty ten he starts
planning a cash and transit van heist and the pair
of suburbs straight out of those French crime flicks he loves.
He mapped it like a movie, blocked the van with
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a fake roadblock, disarmed the guards, grab millions in cash.
Faid the mastermind, not in the field, but calling the shots.
He's picking a crew and sketching out every detail, but
it goes sideways. May twentyth twenty ten. His crew hits
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the van and a chase erupts. They fire at cops
on the A four highway and a twenty six year
old policewoman is killed. Faid not there, but the cops
trace the plan to him, and you know, cop dies.
They're not playing around. Relentless, relentless pursuit of them all. Now.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Absolutely, He's nabbed.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
In twenty eleven for breaking parole and orchestrating the job. So,
I mean when he planned this job, he was out
on parole. They slapped him with a murder charge. So
back to prison, no more red carpets. I mean, he
was living it up. He was doing the circuit, you know,
like here when someone's got a movie out or a
book deal. You know, they go on every show running
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them through. You know, he was on Ellen. You know,
so this dude who's doing his tour Yeah, right, so
this dude's doing his his tour of you know, all
of the things. What do you know, he's talking about
all the crimes he did. What do you know, back
to jail.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
A stupid move.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Hey, we talk about this all the time. These people. Well,
they put so much effort into their crime. You know,
this guy was super meticulous. And then he gets out,
he gets caught right away, Well where'd you go back
to your hometown? Good place to hide.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Put only that, even if they didn't sniff him out,
they're gonna look at the old suspects, you know what
I mean, he's already in the system. It's not like
they're not going to turn his direction.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
And if it's anything, he's still doing it. Like movies, Yeah,
they're going to be Oh, wonder who did this? One
did change is exactly the same? I wonder who did this?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So you know, I think they get addicted to the rush.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I mean, you pulled off stuff like that and then
you just go cold turkey. That'd be tough. That'd be
real tough. So prison was just another set. In twenty thirteen,
he's in Oh man, I'm not gonna try to say
that prison's name. Feel free to add a name in there, guy,
(33:26):
So all right. In two thousand and three, he's in
Alcatraz and he pulls and escaped straight out of a blockbuster.
He's been reading up on explosives. This guy was always learning,
always planning. So how he get his stuff to. It's
funny he's in prison, but he's able to look up
stuff about explosion explosives.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Clearly really buckling down on the reading material. Yeah, like, eh, whatever,
prison escape for dummies. I got this library. It was
it's a friends, it's not mine.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Put that.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So on August thirteenth, he smuggled. He smuggled dynamite lightly
through likely through a corrupt guard or a visitor. It's
actually believed through his brother who came and visited him,
but some people think it was a guard that brought
it in. They never never was able to tie it
to his brother. At eight am, he lures four guards
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to a visiting room that boom blast the hole through
five reinforced doors. He got a fake gun and he
takes the guard's hostage and walks out like he's in
a Michael bayflick. Cops is scrambling, but Fayid gone vanished
into the suburbs. So this dude escapes prison.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, he did all these. He did all these heist,
pull them off, goes to jail, escapes.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
There almost had to be a guard involved with the
dynamite being smuggled. If somebody else did it. They're pretty
anaabout what gets in and now they're gonna notice fucking dynamite.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
And are you gonna hide dynamite in your prison pocket?
I don't think so. That's a lot of Dyna Darwin awards.
Yes for that five dollars. He farted blew his head off,
but go figure. Six weeks later, he's caught in a
hotel near Paris, hiding with wigs and fake Id's back
(35:31):
to prison. So, I mean, so smart and everything he
does so dumb. It reminds me of that. I don't
remember what what one it was? Oh uh the prison
cock whatever? Uh the episode I did that dude broke
out a prison like four dimes and never went but
right back to his boyfriend's house, you know every time,
(35:52):
cock of the whatever. I don't remember the name of
that jailhouse. Cock, that's what it was. I knew there
was cocking. It had all kinds of cocking it.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You came up with the title for that one first
before the even episode.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
It's a horrible title. We're like, we're doing it. We're
such rebels. So anyways, back to prison, heavier security, but
he's not finished. In twenty eighteen. He ups the Annie
with a prison break that's pure Hollywood. July first Ryu
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prison southeast of Paris. His crew pulls off something insane.
A helicopter lands in the prison courtyard. Fay's brothers planned
it like a scene from a heist flick, hiring a
pilot at gunpoint to fly in. I don't know if
you're you're got a gunpoint high, do you accept the job?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Do you accept the job?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
They did. They were hiring him and then but they
told him where they wanted to go. He refused, They
pulled the guns. So that's how that went. So that
is correct.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
It's not willful.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So yeah, So the helicopter flies in. Two guys jumped out,
armed with assault rifles and a power grinder, cutting through
a gate to reach Faid in a visitor the visiting room.
He's ready, calm as ever, probably grinning like the star
of his own movie. They got smoke bombs to mess
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with the guards. They were in and out under ten minutes.
They were back in the chopper lifting off before the
prison alarms even make sense to anyone. So, all right,
there's a little little bit that I messed. I'm left
out here. They picked the helicopter person because of the
(37:55):
specific helicopter he flew. Yeah, because this is a this
is a prison. They had netting around the prison for
just in case a helicopter came, but there was one
part of the prison that didn't have it, and it's
where he managed to get himself. He planned this all out,
and they knew the roles that if the help, they
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could not shoot because his guys in the tower. They
could not shoot at a helicopter if it didn't land.
If it was in there and it hadn't landed, they
couldn't shoot at it. This helicopter came down and hovered
above the ground and waited, you know so and UH
found right, So as long as it never touched down,
(38:41):
they technically couldn't shoot at it. So I mean smart, Yeah,
So where was I? The helicopter landed in a nearby
field and they torch it to destroy evidence. Straight out
of a crime thriller. Faid on the run again, but
(39:01):
this time he's hiding and playing sight, using wigs, fake beards,
even dressed as a woman in a burka. At one point,
he's got the movie star flair, blending into the parises underworld.
But the cops are relentless this time, of course they are.
This guy's made a fool out of him twice, you know,
and he's got the death of a cop on his hands,
(39:24):
and the whole, the whole, uh all. This was exciting,
but he was no longer a hero, you know. He's
like a folk here before. But once, once that young
lady police officer was killed, yeah, it was yep, no more.
He was all that was gone. So on October third,
twenty eighteen, they tracked him to an apartment and guess
(39:46):
where his hometown where it all started. He was arrested
without a fight. They found him hiding under a mattress,
but you can bet he was already plotting his next move.
Back in prison, the French system throws the book at him.
In October twenty twenty three, he gets an extra fourteen
(40:08):
years for the helicopter escape on top of the original
thirty year sentence for the ice and other charges. So
he's looking at twenty sixty before he's eligible for release,
and that's if he behaves, which, come on, must be real,
That ain't his style. Fayi's life was like one long movie.
With him as a director, he planned every job like
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a scripted a script, casing targets for months, rehearsing with
his crew, mimicking the cool, calculated moves he saw on
the screen. The point break Bak job fell apart because
of a sloppy crew member. The l Circus Rouge inspired
(40:53):
Van Heist is clean, no arrest, the heat deep ot raid,
big score, but it led to his nineteen ninety eight capture.
Even in prison, he kept the plot twisting with those
escape with those escapes, explosives in twenty thirteen, a helicopter
in twenty eighteen, but every time the cops caught up.
(41:18):
And now he's locked down tight. I faii didn't just
rob Banks. He lived like he was in a film,
chasing that rush. Whether he's done or still dreaming up
one last act, I have to wait and see. And
that's the story.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
That's a good one. So if he gets out in
twenty sixteen, twenty six he would be eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Yeah, so yeah, he can move to China and fall
in love with a avatar, right, So yeah, this dude
is no joke, man.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
But it's the same thing we talk about with all
these They put so much into it, but once they're out,
it's like every bit of smarts that they had.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
It's just at the window, so smart and so stupid
at the same time. Yeah, I mean get out, and
I'm gonna go directly back to my hometown, exactly where
the cops know I'm gonna get going. That's what you do.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
They plan the hest meticulously, they plan the escape meticulously,
but they don't plan what the hell they're gonna do
at all afterwards. And that's probably the most important part.
You know, if you're not going to try to get
you're going back to your hometown, that's like, that's just stupid.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Once people drop their guard, that's when they get caught.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, and someone's gonna in your hometown. Guess what people
recognize you. Scott's back.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, there he is.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
He's here for the right shoes.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
All the foot lockers locked down.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, there's so many people right now, Like, what the
fuck are they talking about?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I don't I don't even know what that's a callback to.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
It said, no fucking way with goals from all things
out wageously dark, scary, beautiful, and totally true. I can't
believe I remembered that title. I'm going back. Yeah, it's like,
no fucking way six or something five or three, somewhere
between one and yeah somewhere there los in a long
(43:08):
have to listen to all of them, I guess. Oh well,
so anyways, that was a great story, but I like
that one. All right, guys, well now we're gonna head
over to the fire pit. We will catch you over there.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I guess you know what's homities.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Can't try to the fire.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
All right, guys, you know the drill. If you have
any fire pit stories, send them to us Beyond the
Shadows to seven at gmail dot com, or drop them
on any of our socials. We're not at the bottom
of the barrel, but we are definitely getting low, so
help us out. Guys.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Are we getting lower? We just always low the same thing.
We're getting low. We got one less than we had before.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Tanks generally on it's really I mean, we get stories,
and we have we have a few of them backup,
but it many times, well we've literally told our last
one that week.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
We and then the guys came through. We needed to
come through. Always keep them coming.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
This week's Firepit comes to us from Karen Hi, Scott
and Ryan. I really love the show. I look forward
to the podcast. Drop every week PSA for the love
of Everything Unholy. Send in your fire pit stories. If
you enjoy this podcast as much as I do, send
them in to keep the podcast going.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
See Karen said, thank you, Karen, and Karen did Thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Karen preach on System Now for my fire pit story.
March sixth, twenty seventeen. I was six ish months pregnant,
well forever, forever remember this day. The weather in Iowa
was strange. Honestly, when is it not, with rain and thunderstorms.
I was supposed to have a massage that he evening,
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but my anxiety was running high and I didn't put
two and two together. When my massage therapist saw me,
she told me we'd reschedule because there was no way
I was going to be able to relax. The evening progresses.
My significant other and I go to bed, and what
happens when you're pregnant. You need to get up a
million times during the night to pee. I get up
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and make it to the door when I hear a pop,
pop pop. I just froze, trying to rationalize what the
sound was. Where's the cat? Fuck just jumped off the bed.
Dogs are sound asleep along with my guy being the
overemotional and insane pregnant woman I was. I woke up
my guy. He appeased me, got up and started looking
(45:46):
in all the rooms. I heard him make it to
the kitchen and there was no shouting or struggling. I
go to meet him in the kitchen. Side note, my
guy is partially deaf. He tried to tell me that
it was the refrigerator. I told him no, then excuse me.
He then felt the gas stove. It was hot. He
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looked behind the stove to find a seven inch flame.
He yelled, grabbed the animals. We grabbed the three dogs,
but the asshole cat ran and hid. That's what cats do.
As we were running out the door, my guy was
on the phone with nine one one. We made our
way to the detached garage to one of our vehicles
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and pulled into the street as the garage was close
to the kitchen. Not even thirty seconds later, a cop
showed up and ran into the house to make sure
nobody else was in there. Not even thirty seconds later,
three fire trucks appeared and firefighters ran in to ensure
that the fire was out. The aftermath of this was
of this was us having to buy a new stove
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and fix the wall. A small price to pay for
our lives being saved by our unborn daughter. I'm sure
I have more. When I remember another, I'll send it in.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, that's cary stuff. If you hadn't got up to
go pee, you know absolutely what would have happened.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
That's another one of those times where somebody's definitely looking.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
At divine interventions.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah. Absolutely could well be here.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Something in the middle of night. Yeah, it could be,
could be. You know how we talked before about how
stuff was happening around this house or whatever, when we
had a lot of ghost stuff. Nothing's happened for a
long time. Today it wasn't. It was earlier this evening
because we record rate before. So you guys, this was
yesterday to you. Ah, knock on the door, or at
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least a knock. It didn't necessarily come from the door.
And my son's like someone's at the door. The dog
barked to the knock, and I heard it in the
other room. We have cameras all around our house. Our
house is surrounded with cameras. Nothing, no one was outside
knocking on anything. It was I heard the knock, the
dog heard the knock, and lamb heard the knock. Nothing
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and it's a distinct knock. It's that's one of the
things I said, happened before, it was a knock. It
happened again tonight.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
That's always the kind of thing where you try to
up and down to come up with a rational explanation
just to calm yourself, and you just can't.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Satis, there's nothing scary about this house. My house is new.
I mean, I it was built for us like five
years ago.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
You know, you know it doesn't show up on cameras.
Black eyed kids, black eyed kids.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Son's a bitch.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
It's obviously what it was, without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
I don't know what else it could be, interdimensional, I guess,
but no, I mean we had a little bit of
knock him before, and it happened again. I mean, I
question sometimes, but the dog, when the dog reacts is
when you're like, oh, because my dog doesn't bark ever
unless someone is at the door. My brother except for
your brother, you guys, met Troy. He didn't like he's
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the only person he's not like. Ever. He actually bit him.
And he's a little CHIWEENI. He's a CHIHUAHUAWEENI mix. He's
tiny yet draw blood, but he ye not a big
Troy fan.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
So anyways, thank you Karen. That was a great story.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, we appreciate that. Guys, please get your stories into
us Beyond the Shadows two o seven at gmail dot
com or any of our socials and uh, that's gonna
end it and we will catch you in the next
one latter guys,