October 17, 2025 • 54 mins
For over 30 years people have been encountering children with entirely black eyes. They almost always show up after dark and when the person is entirely alone. They scare the hell out of witnesses, often without even speaking a word. They just want to come in. This won't take long they say. But what is it they really want? And who, or what are the Black Eyed Kids? Join us as we try and unravel this complicated mystery.
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Medium
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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As we go Beyond the Shadows, true crime, paranormal hauntings, UFOs,
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Just a few of the topics that we will tackle.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
If it haunts your fucking dreams, then it will be
on our show.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Do you know what the most in the world is?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
On the shuttles where you found me at you can't
see me in the deepest blacks when your heart starbus
and then you see their cracks, all these creepy things
that you why at track full the demens be, where
the actions at. So this enough you want it? UFOs,
all them ghosts. We got everything that you want.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It won't do you know what the thing in the
world is? Hey, guys, and welcome back to episode one
sixty two of Beyond the Shadows.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Welcome back Shadow Armie.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You get a couple uh new ratings this week, a
few from on Spotify and on Apple. We appreciate those guys.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh can't can't shout out any names the one on
Apple Rating Review and Spotify we could never see. But again,
always guys, we appreciate those very they make a big difference,
they really do. Thank you for taking the time.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yep, And I don't think we have much housekeeping. What's
in the news.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's actually been a surprisingly quiet week in the news.
I'm disappointed, Florida looking at you. Come on.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Nothing happened this week, not much really, it was it
was tough finding anything.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So we get a seventy year old Italian man who's
been collecting disability payments for over half a century due
to his blindness. That's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Time Spotify out of blindness.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
A work related accident fifty three years ago resulted in
him being declared fully and legally blind. But once some
strange activity came to their attention, Vincenzia police did some
checking and they found him using his dangerous power gardening
tools like just buzzing around all just buzzing around like
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unencumbered as well as like and when he was in
the supermarket, they watched him like grabbing stuff off the
shelf and examining it with his hands, but checking out,
checking out the labels, and Clurton turning it over Gluten
really fucks with my blindness. But really gave it away
was the fact he was spending sixty grand a month
on porn. I made that part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
That's why I started laughing, like I don't remember, I
just like the sound.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
As you guys can all figure out what we're leading
to is he is not blind at all. He hasn't
been in the fifty three years he's been collecting disability
and he's collected close to one point five million in payments,
which is a shitload of money. But you figure over
fifty three years he wasn't drawing that large of a payment. Still,
he's he's defraud of the government from a large amount
of money. So he's he's obviously going to serve some
time for this. Oh yeah, he's getting like what twenty
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thousand a year or something like that. So we get
a Pruvian Bishop, Zero GESP Lopez of Julie, Peru. He's
been forced to resign due to having an affair with
the mistress. At least seventeen of them in seventeen so God,
I think the first time was probably dismissed as like
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bad judgment. Because he figured the second one would cancel
out the first and he'd be good to go, you know,
right right by bang too. They don't count. But then
it just snowballed from there. Before you know what, you
get a seventeen and it looks bad. One of the
women also happened to be.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
A nun, right, it's I don't know why. I don't
know why they don't allow them to just have sex. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, yeah, I agree, but last time we covered a
bishop and a nun having sex, they got walled up
in uh yeah, rectory. Rectory. Uh. The scandal has been
going on for a long time. Sorry, I lost my place.
Been going on for a long time, and it finally
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came to light of all the stuff he's done. It
came to light because he accidentally sent pictures of his
junk to his cleaning lady, not whoever he intended it to.
She was not one of the seventeens.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Bishop. He thought the daily prayers are coming.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, No, she thought that was today's assignment. I gotta
clean that that things grow.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So apparently she ratted him out to the church. That's
how we get caught. So the picture of his junk
cleaning la. He's still denying he did anything wrong. I'm
sure the church is like, what's up with the dick pics?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
What's up with thy Holy?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Lastly, we have police in Springfield, Missouri, were showing a
video from Missouri State College that showed sophomore Ryan Schaefer
smashing car windows, ripping off mirrors, denting hoods, and all
of that type of shit. So when they paid him
a visit and showed him the footage, he admitted that
the person on tape did resemble him quite a lot,
quite a bit, but insisted that it was not. So.
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Police asked he hand over his cell phone, which he
begrudgingly did, and they noticed that he had just happened
to have it. Asked a chat GPT, what if I
smashed the shit out of multiple cars as well? As
is there any way they could know what was me?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And chat GPT's like, he fucking did it? It was him?
Unrelated search.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I asked that just for research.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I saw that someone had done that. I was worried
and I was putting myself in their position.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
If you could believe that they actually caught him, I.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Don't know, can I don't know, can they just take
your telephone your phone for something like they asked him
he had it over. Yeah, I mean, it seems like
they sure get a lot of stuff out of people's
texts and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, and one of those cases, I'm sure if
you're a judge signing a search warrant, which I don't
think it came to in this case, it's clearly the
fucking kid you're hearing the warning. Clearly did he didn't
hide himself, He wasn't wearing a mask or anything. It
was one hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But clearly he's not too bright but apparently not. All right, Bud, Well,
what do you got this spooky season for us? So?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Last spooky season we did two episodes about the Black
Eyed Kids, and those went over really well. Uh, people
like the we're gonna do don't let them in volume
three today.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Excellent black Eyed Kids return, awesome, looking forward to it.
All right, guys, we'll catch over there, do.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know what? All right, So, back when we did
episodes one oh five and one oh six, I already
did a background in general description of the Black Eyed Kids,
So I'm not gonna get too deep into that here today.
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I'll just do a quick recap. They are generally described
as being between six and sixteen years of age. They
usually approach a person who is alone, and almost always
at night, making strange requests like to be let into
your car for a ride or into your house for
something to eat. Their clothing is often too large and
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very outdated, and their skin is known for being very pale.
Their movements can seem quite unnatural and almost robotic. They
will make the same request over and over again, becoming
more persistent and irritated if the person doesn't give in
to their demands. They are perceived as being very threatening,
although they rarely make any actual threats. They show up
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seemingly out of nowhere can disappear just as quickly. Often
they appear somewhere they had not been only a split
second earlier, and either disappear right in front of the
witness's eyes or make their impossible get away in the
split second while they were looking away. The most dramatic
detail about these black eyed kids is, obviously, as their
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name states, their entirely black eyes. Not just their iris
or their pupil, but their entire eye is pitch black. Frequently,
they hide this feature early on in their encounters, either
with sunglasses, hoods, or by looking down into away from
the approached person. Sometimes hiding their eyes isn't necessary at
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all if the encounter takes place in a suitably dark environment,
which it frequently does.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
So they're goth kids pretty much, they said.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Lastly about the beeks, it said that they will only
appear to those who are already aware of their presence.
So stop listening right now. You might have some plausible deliability,
Ryan blew it for everybody, but someone had to have
seen them without being aware of them, where there would
be no reports to go. Something happened after first? What
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came first, the BK or the egg. It's going to
start somewhere, so when you really start digging, the encounters
going back much further than people think. But the now
worldwide phenomenon of the beks began in nineteen ninety six
when Texas journalist Brian Bethel was approached by two bks
outside of a movie theater. I'm not going to rehash
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that encounter here, as we covered in episode one oh five.
So when he started writing about his encounter, he found
out shocky, so he thought it was a unique encounter,
and when he started writing on online, So this is
early days of the internet. He still got enough information
to realize that he was not unique in that aspect.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's been happening. That seems to happen to a lot
of people. They think something was unique to them, and
then they're finding out, oh shit, this is a lot
of peop people.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And it's probably why you're hesitant to make note of
it the first time at all, because if it's that
unique you think it, I'm just gonna si like a
fucking nut job. Nobody's going to believe this. I'm not
even gonna say anything about it. And I bet that happens.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I think that's the same thing with like the Mendela effect. Yeah,
you never heard about anything like that, but now all
of a sudden where everybody can compare notes or whatever. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Bethel's friend, John Northwood was a paranormal investigator, and two
years after his friend's famous encounter, he had one of
his own. In Portland, Oregon. When leaving a seminar in
nineteen ninety eight, Northwood was approached in the parking garage
by a colleague named Doug. Doug basically asked for a
ride around the block. A few times, as there was
a group of kids hanging around outside his own car
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that had him unnerved. So Northwood obliged, and as they
were passing Doug's car, he noticed a group of three
kids hanging around. There were two males on a female.
John estimated the girl and the older boy were both
fourteen or fifteen, and the younger boy was about twelve.
The girl was smoking a cigarette and looking very bored,
heavily made up and in full on goth mode. The
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two boys were, in his words, scary as shit. They
looked way too intense for kids. Northwood didn't just drive
past the car, as Doug had asked, but he made
the mistake of slowing down when he passed. The girl
stayed put, but the two boys walked over to John's car,
with one of them coming to each side. John made
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sure the doors were locked before asking the kids what
they were doing loitering around someone's car. The young one stated,
it's scary out here all alone. We just wanted to
ride home. The older one then adds, you'd promise you'd
help us out. Doug denies offering them help, stating that
he doesn't even know them. Weirdly, though, Doug seemed to
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have finally given in and announced to John he was
just going to get out of the car. When John
stopped as Doug reached for the door handle, John witnessed
the two older The two kids suddenly seemed much older
and a whole lot scarier. It was only then that
he noticed that their eyes were solid black. These are
his words, edge to edge, no pupil, no iris, nothing,
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just a liquid black pool. John quickly sped away from
the kids, and they came on in pursuit, which is
actually an unusual reaction in these black eyed kids don't
usually run after you. The two boys set out behind
the car, and John found out that they were right
on his bumper. They made their way down from the
parking garage's third floor at a speed that he estimated
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to be about thirty five miles per hour, and somehow
found that the older male had already beaten them down.
He was waiting on the sidewalk outside. When they reached
the bottom, he made directly for the car's door. John
was able to take the corner and leave the boy behind,
but when he looked in his rear view mirror, the
boy was nowhere to be seen. Despite the fact there
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was nowhere where he could have gone that fast.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
The menacing feeling that had been plaguing John since the
start of the encounter was gone. While they drove, Doug
told John that he had been approached by the younger
male earlier in the night asking for a ride home.
He had given the boy a short ride to the
seminar and told him to wait until he was done,
and then he would then drive him home.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Oh, so he already drove.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He had already drove the younger kid. When he returned
to the car later and found three kids waiting for him,
He'd been unnerved and he'd changed his mind. So they
returned to Doug's car maybe ten minutes later and found
no sign of any kids hanging around. Doug got into
his car without incident, and they both left the parking garage.
John followed behind Doug's car about by what he later
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guessed to be about fifty feet. John witnessed as Doug
drove through a yellow light into an intersection, where he
collided with a truck and was killed. Geeesh. John stuck
around just long enough to give a police for a report,
and later on, after getting back into his own car
to leave, he again saw those same two black eyed
kids staring at him from about two blocks away. So
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this case featured a lot of the b e K staples.
They initially managed to hide their menacing black eyes seemingly
until a time of their own, choosing to reveal them.
People rarely notice the black guys right off the bat.
They telepathically convinced Doug to open his door to them
despite his obvious terror, And he never says that, but
we can assume that he was terrified, and all of
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a sudden he's saying, screw it, I'm getting out, reaches
for the door. It's a strange move. They disappear from
John's view despite the physical impossibility of having done so,
and Doug, who admits to having given into one of
them earlier in the night, then suffers a catastrophic misfortune
for having done so.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, a couple things that I don't notice is like
recognizes the fact he actually gave one a ride, which
is you don't usually hear.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But when you do, somebody who gives into the beeks
almost certainly meets misfortune later. Now we find out later
that he gave the kid a ride and in an
hour after that he's dead.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And then the other thing is them chasing after him.
I've never heard that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That doesn't matter very often. No, they'll yell after them,
they rarely physically chase them. There have long been reports
of paranormal activity in Cannock Chase, Staffordshire, England. It's a
paranormal hotspot that has seen everything from UFOs to a
pig man, werewolves, ghosts, and a black eyed child. The
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black Eyed child reports go back to at least the
nineteen seventies, well before Brian Bethel's encounter. A young couple
was approached while walking through the forest by a young
girl with completely black eyes. In a very childish voice.
She asked them for help. As in most b e.
K encounters, the couple reported feeling a sense of unease,
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but there started before they even saw her, as though
her approach itself had caught to shift in the environment,
so they felt strange before they even saw the girls.
That's different. She's been encountered many times in the years since,
with some reporting feeling nauseous and having severe headaches after
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or even before their encounter with her. She said to
be wearing old fashioned clothing and moves in an unnatural,
almost robotic fashion. In another encounter, albeit one reported in
the tabloid The Daily Star, So we take this one
with a grain salmon. It's like the National Inquirer. Here,
a woman and her daughter were out walking the same
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general area when they heard a young girl scream. They
ran to the spot they believed the sound came from,
but didn't find anyone. While they stopped to rest, the
mother noticed a young girl had somehow snuck up behind
them and was standing about ten feet away with her
hands covering her eyes. The woman guessed the girl to
be about ten, but when she took the hands off
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of her eyes, the mother experienced the terror of those
cold black eyes. The mother grabbed her daughter in horror
and took several steps back. When she glanced up again,
only a second or two later, the girl had vanished.
There was nowhere she had gone so quickly, could have
gone so quickly, but nonetheless she was gone. Lee Buckley
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described another encounter with this same black eyed girl in
his book Haunted Cannic Chase True Stories from the UK's
Spookiest Location. The encounter involves two seventeen year olds who
had been separated due to the COVID pandemic, and they
decided to do some illegal camping in the forest. So
all these were in the same spot. It was around
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midnight when they heard noise outside their tent. At first,
they assumed it was a deer and they stayed put.
That is until they heard distinctly human footsteps decided to
go out and take a look. At first, they didn't
see anything, but they heard the sound of a child giggling,
just like a scene from a horror movie. At first,
they couldn't see much more than someone or something darting
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from treated tree and their flashlight beams occasionally stopping to
peep out at them.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That's just terrifying in the middle of the woods, very terrifying.
The woods are scary at night anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
This is the type of stuff that keeps people up
at night. Literally, this is what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
The noises you're talking about reminds me when we were right.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah. Well, you can hear the noises. You could picture
somebody falling on their beams. You always see it in
horror movies. You can imagine in real life with your
beam just can't quite catch up with them. They just
beer buying the tree before darting buying another one. But
you know, you focked. You know it's not good. It
does sound somewhat to Rice Fell for sure. Eventually it
stops and steps out into the open for them to
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see it clearly. Buckley, when he was writing, change the
kids' names to protect their identity, so he refers to
them as Ben and Kylie. Kylie said, I was absolutely terrified.
I'd read the stories in the news about the black
eyed child, but it wasn't until the things stood right
in front of me that I could quite believe them.
I knew instantly that we were dealing with the real
thing because it moved in ways humans can simply not move.
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It was like it could teleport from one place to
another when it was moving around and hiding behind the trees.
Ben added, I was shining my torch right at her,
and she just stood there, staring at us with her
head slightly dipped. That's when the giggling started to get
louder and louder. It really sounded like it was coming
from all around us, even though I could see clearly
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that she was standing right in front of us. It
was really disorienting for a couple of seconds. Then she
bent down for a moment as if adjusting her shoes,
stood back up, and ran off down a nearby path
through a dense section of trees. They stayed huddled up
in their tent and counted the minutes until daylight so
they could make their way back to Ben's car. When
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they exited the tent around seven am, they found someone
had lined up stones all around the perimeter of their tent,
as well as hanging some sort of strange stick sculptures
from all of the trees.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That's very blair Witch.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I actually had a note that said that exact thing.
They then made the fifteen minute walk back to Ben's
car without incident, but when they were almost there, Kylie
spotted the same small girl with black eyes peeping out
at her from behind an oak tree. They showed it
for her to quote leave them alone as they sprinted
to his car and made their getaway.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That usually works, Yeah, you leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
A demon A ghost doesn't matter, like fine, if they
ask you for your demon, you got to answer yes,
we're out. So this one is slightly different in that
the girl never spoke a word in their report, so
she didn't ask them for anything. She wasn't asking for permission.
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She never made an attempt to gain entry to their tather.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
This one seems more like a spooky ghost or spirit.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's it's in the black eyed kid genre, but I'm
not sure it's a black eyed kid in the traditional sense,
because she doesn't do anything any of the things that
black eyed kids would do. She never asked them for anything,
which they always do. In the nineteen sixties, along the
A thirty four road, there took place what would later
be called the Canic Chase murders. Right near where these
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last few sightings occurred. The bodies of a five and
a six year old girl were found partially hidden in
a ditch. The following year, the body of a seven
year old girl was also found in the area. Two
years later, the botched abduction attempt of a ten year
old girl led to the arrest of Raymond Leslie Morris.
It was charged with only one murder, but who knows
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how many young girls he might might have fallen victim
to him. He died in prison in twenty fourteen, and
the first reports of the black Eyed Girl of Canic
Chase began not long after the murders he committed. Is
she the ghost of one of these young girls. Or
are the murders and the subsequent appearance of a black
eyed girl ghost just a coincidence. That's hard to say,
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actually truly is, but possible, possible for sure. So generally speaking,
the EK seem to be working off a script almost
in many of their encounters. If the initial pre is unsuccess,
plea is unsuccessful, they will try again and become more urgent.
If this doesn't work, there is more than one b
e K present, the young, youngest looking one will generally
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begin to sob and cry, although the witness will generally
describe it as a feeble attempt at a fake cry.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I'm sitting here racking my brain trying to remember what
I said. I thought they were, yeah, because I kind
of lean towards alien at some points, but at other
points other things. Well, that's what I don't remember what
I said.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I did the same thing, but you don't have to
because I did the same the first time. As more
cases come in, it should shift your opinion, you know
what I mean. That's kind of what science and.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Some of its demonic or some of it seems like alien.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Later on you'll find I deliberately chose cases to lean
you one way or another, because there's only so many
cases out there, and one case will point in one direction,
the another point in another. But there's so many out there.
But generally they do some of the same things every time,
and the kids beginning to cry and robotic like they'll
always say the kid cried almost on cue. And they're
not very convincing, right. It almost seems like they know
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what a part they're supposed to play, and they're playing it,
but not very convincingly. So take this encounter from a
woman in the US. She understandably withheld her name in location.
She was alone in her living room late one night
when a knock came at the door. When she opened
the door, she could see two younger children at her door,
a girl that appeared to be about eleven and a
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boy who looked maybe nine. Instantly, the woman says, something
in her stomach told her there was something amiss. The
girl politely asked, ma'am, can we please come inside and
use your phone to call our mom. The woman was
torn by the terror in the pit of her stomach
that she couldn't quite explain, and the sight of two
children standing on her porch. She didn't answer right away,
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and the older girl took a step forward. It was
only when the light from inside the house that fell
on the girl that the woman was able to get
a good look at her. Her heart skipped a beat
when she saw those midnight black eyes. All maternal instinct
flutterr in that moment, as every hair on her body
stood an end. She closed the door to only a
crack when the girl spoke again, pleading this time, please, ma'am,
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we're really scared and alone out of here. We have
to come inside, please help us out. Nope, And at
that at the same time, both kids began to cry,
or at least pretend to cry like on cue same time.
Woman was unmoved and closed the door in their faces.
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They eventually went away, but to this day she remembers
those lifeless black eyes vividly. So in this encounter, we
have the typical approach at night and of a person
who was alone. But when the kids approached a closed
door in the middle of the night, how do they
invariably know that the person inside is alone? And they
always are always are they have they been watching the
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house for quite some time or is it possible that
they just have another sense, and I lean towards the
latter here.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, I think we also talked about vampire stuff too,
didn't we.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I think everything about the Black Eyed kids is vampires.
I do, if you ask me truly what they what
box they check its vampires. But I don't believe in vampires,
so we're going to go in another direction. But they
check everything from vampire lore.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
They really do, because they've got to be invited in.
It sounds like there they don't just come in and
they're really white complexion.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I can't find a single instance of black eyed kids
where they come in without an invite, not one, and
I have scoured. They have to be given an invite.
That's that's very vampire, but it's also not an accident
when you can't find a single case. They are clearly
bound by some kind of law whatever they are. So
in this one we have the typical crying from the kids,
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this time, both of them. On time is in queued,
and as we discovered lastly, is always the case, they
have to ask for permission to enter rather than just
doing so. So whatever they are, it seems certain that
they do not have the power to enter someone's house, car,
or tent, whatever have you, without being invited by the owner.
And just as importantly, they seem in many cases to
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deliberately reveal their black eyes to someone who hasn't seen
them yet before they decide whether or not to invite
them in. And I've noticed this as I've doug. A
lot of times they didn't have to look up, but
they do so it almost seems like it's necessary for
their victim to know what they were up against before
granting permission or denying.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Or maybe they can charm them into that's a vampire
thing too, and could be doing what they want.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Could be a lot of it is, And I'll.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Convince you like that dude, they convinced him to open
his door, Yeah, was it after looking into those black
eyes that he does.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But you know, like I said, in a lot of
these cases, the kids are looking down or into the
woods or whatever. The person isn't scared that much, but
before the person makes their decision, the kid will deliberately
look at them and reveal the horror, right, and then
the person decides. It's like the kids have to reveal
themselves before they make it calculated. Almost seems like they're
bound by that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Back in twenty twelve, in northeast Louisiana, a man was
working the overnight shift at the gas station located just
off a lonely highway. At this hour, he kept the
doors locked and he only went out to the pump
to pump gas if someone drove across the bell. If
someone wanted to enter the store portion, they need to
either knock or ring a bell, and he could buzz
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them in from a switch located behind the counter. He
had been reading a book when the station suffered a
power failure that left him using his cell phone as
a flashlight to reach and activate the generator. This only
carried enough power were to operate some of the station's needs,
so the station's four court lights came on, but the
rest of the place remained in darkness. Out of the
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corner of his eye, he was shocked to see three
kids riding up on bicycles despite the late hour. Two
of the kids hopped off their bikes and quickly approached
the gas station's door, while the third one remained behind.
He walked over to the door to meet them, and
he opened it up to see if they needed anything. Yes,
somewhat they were doing out at such a late hour,
so close to the highway. Two young girls stood before him,
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and one of them said she needed to use his
phone to call her mother. He handed to her cell phone,
but he didn't open the door to let them in.
But he didn't know why. They made him uneasy For
some reason, he couldn't quite put his finger on. It
was only when the light from the cell phone hid
her face that he finally realized the girl had entirely
black eyes. They both did, and how he hadn't noticed
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yet confused him. Inside of the station was in darkness,
but the outside was not. Instead of saying thank you
or making the call, the girl simply dropped the phone
on the ground while a look of both confusion and
anger came across her face. No, not that phone, the
proper phone. I need to come inside. She pointed to
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a landlight inside the station. When she told him her
sister was cold, scared and needed to use the bathroom
on queue, the little girl began to sob. He locked
the door, and the older girl became enraged. She began
to kick the door. He ran and hid behind the
gas station's counter and watched the cameras as the girl
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stared into the lens and right into his soul as well.
After a period of time, the two kids turned away
in unison and walked away, back to their bikes, as
if called unseen by a call by a voice unseen,
And they walked away, and no time they had rejoined
their third and the three of them were gone.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Are they usually in groups of three?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They're usually in groups, yeah, not always three, two. I've
seen four, generally two at least two, but they are
occasionally alone. So understandably, he did not go outside to
look for them, but instead he rewound the cameras to
make sure he had proof of what he had just encountered.
And just as in several other cases of the black
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eyed kids, the cameras showed nothing. No kids on bikes,
no kids at the door, no kids at all.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
That's vampirish too.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, very much.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
The things I would want to note about this story,
outside of the things we've already covered, is the failure
of the power only seconds before the kids arrived. I
don't think that was a coincidence at all.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Doesn't seem to be.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Secondly, the black eyed kids often seem to be from
a time other than our own. They wear outdated clothing,
and they genuinely seem confused by technology. The girl made
no attempt to use the cell phone or appear to
have any clue even what it.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Was, seemed defended by it. Yeah, she was pissed.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And lastly, they have no fear of being caught on
cameras because even when they walk directly in front of them,
they still seem to know that they will not show
up on film. And her book Danger at Your Door
Encounters with Black Eyed Kids, Jemma Jade details an encounter
from an anonymous man in Nevada. The man had just
finished shutting down everything for the night was getting ready
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to go to bed when he heard a knock on
his front door. He decided against opening the door and
instead looked out the people standing there. He saw a
boy who looked to be somewhere between twelve and fifty.
The boy was dressed entirely in black, had jet black hair,
and was staring at the ground. The man yelled through
the door, asking what the boy wanted. He replied that
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he was hungry and he needed money for food. There
had been some robberies in the neighborhood of late, and
the man was suspicious that this was just a setup.
There was likely an accomplice or two waiting just out
of view, and when he opened the door to give
the boy money, they would strike. As such, he told
the boy that he couldn't help him, and it was
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only then that the boy looked up and revealed those eyes.
Not only did the boy have coal black eyes the bait,
but the man also made note of the boy's unnaturally
pale skin. He also thought it looked like the boy
was wearing a wig, and that his eyebrows and lips
had probably been painted on. He also thought the boy's
skin looked very strange, as though it too had been painted.
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The boy pleaded once again that he was hungry and
just needed some money for food. What bothered the man
just as much as the boy's appearance, was that his
second request from money and food was the exact same
as the first, not just the same words, but spoken
the exact same way. Huh I thought it sounded robotic
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and rehearsed, more like a recording than an actual child speaking.
The man again declined to help and told the boy
to go away and not come back, staring directly into
the people. The boy simply said okay and began to retreat,
but he didn't turn and walk away. He walked backwards
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until he reached the edge of the man's driveway and
then disappear. He didn't fade away slowly or walk out
of the man's field of vision. He simply disappeared. The man,
forgetting his terror, ran outside to see if there was
any sign of where the boy may have gone, but
he found only an emptyard. So while we've covered the
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fact that the black eyed kids have to be invited in,
we've also covered the fact that they will use any
means that they're disposable to get the invite. Indirect threats,
emotional blackmail, guilt, tales of woe, and any witnesses report
telepathic means the person will feel compelled to open the
door to them, despite every fiber of their being telling
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them not to. It seems the kids have mind control too,
But if the victim stays firm in their refusal, they
will remain safe. But those unlucky few who give in
and let them in end up paying dearly. In episode
one oh five, we covered a couple in Vermont who
gave into their demands only to endure a series of
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misfortunes later on. Earlier in today's episode, we talked about Doug,
who gave a ride to one of these kids earlier
in the night, before refusing to do so a second time.
Later that night, he was dead. A woman who chose
to remain unnamed was driving home with her young son
approximately nine, which he realized she had forgotten to pick
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up a few items. She pulled into a mini mart
store she was quite familiar with and parked near the
door so she would be able to keep an eye
on her son while she ran and n real quick. Inevitably,
her suv and her son were out of her sight
for a few minutes while she grabbed the atoms she needed.
When she got up to the counter and she could
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see her car again, she felt relaxed enough to chit
chat with the shopkeeper for a few moments. When she
got into the car and asked her son if he
was okay, she noticed in the rear view mirror that
he was sitting stone faced and rigid, wearing a terrified expression.
Her son was sitting directly behind her, and she only
now noticed that the passenger's passenger side door was open.
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There was a little boy sitting on the seat beside
him that she did not recognize.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
But that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
He had his arm around her son, yet no doubt,
the little boy was staring at her, and it was
in the rearview mirror that she noticed his black eyes.
She hopped out of the car and grabbed her son.
She ran into the store and told the storekeeper someone
had broken a nor car and tried to abduct her child.
The storekeeper called nine one one while she called her husband.
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When the police arrived and went back and she went
back outside, there was no child in her car. The
police took a report, but no child by that description
was ever reported missing nor ever seen again. So here
we come back to the invite. The woman had obviously
not invited the child into a car, but when talking
to her son about the events, it turns out.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
That he had, so he led him in.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yes, he was sitting in the back seat when the
mysterious boy came up and knocked on the window. He
thought it would be fun to have another child to
play with, so he invited him in. The boy had
just gotten into the car when his mother came back out.
When her husband arrived, the mother was still so unnerved
by the experience that she asked him to drive the
suv home while she took his car. On the way home,
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he was overcome by a nasty smell before becoming dizzy
and confused. Just before passing out, he remembers seeing a
little boy with black eyes sitting directly behind him with
a look of pure evil on his face. The suv
was totaled in the ensuing accident, but fortunately the man
was unhurt.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Shortly thereafter, their son became ill. For the next year,
he was in and out of the hospital, suffering from
a myriad of symptoms. Every time that seemed like he
was improving whether the doctors had a handle on his symptoms,
they would change and he'd become sick again. It was
only after a year or so that the illness broke
and it was like he'd never been sick at all.
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The boy was able to tell his mom that the
only thing he'd been able to say that day before
she got into the car was to ask the mysterious
little boy if he wanted to come over to his
house and play with he and his mom sometime.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Huh oops, Yeah, I could totally see my kid doing
that totally come on.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
In so so far we've covered multiple encounters where somebody
gives in to their demands and the consequence is a good,
generally disastrous. So I get one more example where that occurs.
This one I also found in the Jemma Jade book
Danger at Your Door. This one features a man taking
a road trip from Marcadia, California, to go and visit
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a friend.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
The destination isn't specifically stated, but it was a drive
that would take him more than a day to complete.
After a long day of driving, he decided to pop
into a dive bar for a couple of cocktails and
stay in a hotel for the night before resuming his
journey the next morning. While sitting at the bar, the
man engaged in a long conversation with a pleasant lady.
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They shared a couple of drinks together he felt totally
comfortable later that night, accepting her offer to spend the
night at her place. He left his car behind at
the bar and rode with the lady. He became uncomfortable
with how far out of town and deep into the
woods the woman lived. It was pitch dark and there
were no other houses nearby. His initial fear was perhaps
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that he was being set up for a robbery, but
when they finally arrived at her house, he overcame his
fear enough to have tons of sex with a lady.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Wow, he rallied, I'm scared, Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, guy, one on one right there. This lasted until
late night, so they had a lot of sex. He
eventually went downstairs to the kitchen to get himself a
drink of water a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Surris Wind himself.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Wasn't that good of it. It was only then that
he noticed there were a bunch of quote small frightening
looking children wandering around the house, despite it being in
the wee hours of the night. And the scariest part
was that all of these kids had pitch black eyes.
He never says it, but it sounds like there's a
fucking lot of not two or three, but a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
He's in a deno.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, somehow the man was able to go back upstairs
and go to sleep. There's no fucking chance I'd be
going back upstairs and go to sleep after I saw
her house full of demon children.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
He went back and get laid again. Probably the only
real guy's gonna overlook a by too freaking demons in
the downstairs is to go upstairs.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, one more round. That was pretty good. Keep the
demon kids at bay for one more So he probably
woke up the next morning thinking to have one more
quickie before she drove him back to the hotel. But
the vibe had significantly shifted. The woman no longer seemed
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happy about his presence, and she took on a hostile vibe.
She kicked him out of her house and he was
and he was forced to walk several miles back through
unfamiliar territory back in its own. So what he didn't
tell us is that he thought, just because she had
black eyed kids, she'd be down for brown eyed sex.
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But she wasn't, and that led to that's how you
make she wasn't down for that.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's why she.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Story doesn't say that. I inferred that the whole story.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I can figure out what happened. I knew where he
went wrong.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Black eyed kids downstairs. I know what I can do
this morning. Nope, she wasn't having it. She booted him,
so he had to walk his ass back to town.
He made it back without further incident and completed his
journey as scheduled. The man, who had previously been in
great physical condition, became sick shortly after his encounter with
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a woman, and within six months he was dead bladder cancer.
The man stated her friends that he was positive it
was his encounter with a woman and her kids that
caused his illness.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
And he said worth it.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Hm. He reiterated that why all the children had black eyes,
The woman herself was completely normal. So is it possible
for a black eyed person to hide their black eyes
when they choose, or is it possible for a normal
eye for lack of a better word, human being to
give birth to a bunch of black eyed kids? So
that would mean that would mean a regular whatever, non
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black eyed person to pro propreate with a black eyed person.
So she does not have black eyed her kids do.
It's it's confusing.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
It's obviously a recessive gene.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
We're gonna have to meet the dad, I think the
next one. The man never gave the children permission for anything,
but obviously he did consent to the woman's requests, so
it's likely that's what doomed him because he never spoke
to the kids. Sure we have for he was sick,
but probably haven't sex with the black Eyed kid demon woman.
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I mean it was good. She was, she was in
a house full of them, she had she had something
to do with it. So I think one thing we
can all agree on is that the Black Eyed kids
are obviously not kids at all. I think everybody that's
listening to our episodes would agree on that the kids
are a camouflage without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Who's doing the camouflage and what they're hiding is hard
to say, and we'll get more into that. So while
the b K mania began with the Brian Bethel case
in nineteen ninety six, that was almost certainly due to
the emergence of the Internet and the easiest spread of
information from that point. So I don't believe for a
second that Brian Bethel was the first case. He was
just the first one that made it out there. That's
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why he's considered the godfather of this. But the cases
go way back, way back.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Further, Apparently they've been around a long time, these demon
alien vampire kids.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Are, So how would someone in the nineteen eighties have
known that they encounter what they had encountered was happening
to others too? That's the thing back then. If you
can't like click and know other people had done it.
So something happening in the seventies, you think it's isolated.
You can't read about it anyway, like, Okay, this is weird.
People are gonna laugh at me. I'm just gonna shut
the fuck up. And I bet that's what happened all
the time. Oh yeah, there's no books about it, there's
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no newspaper articles about it, and you're not one click away.
So those stories just died. I bet there's been a
ton of them that just didn't get out there.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Because now they're just local folklore. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
So at this point, the Bak's have been spotted all
around the world, but the hottest spot seem to have
been Staffordshire, England, London, England, I in France, North Carolina, Vermont, Virginia, Ohio, Louisiana,
and Oregon. So you would assume that me and Scott
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are safe here in Maine, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
We'll get into that on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Tuesday Bonus episode.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, it's volume four.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Ryan is bonusing you up during the spooky season. Were
a bonus in a long.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Time, been a while, So Tuesday, you guys gotta tune
back in for the conclusion, or probably not the conclusion.
Another episode of Black Eyed Kids. I was taking next Halloween,
we gotta have like a black eyed kid in the
studio here. We're gonna raise the bar again. We're gonna
have like one inf We're gonna have to find that
lady and make some black I can't what if I'm
in the studio here for an interview or something, gonna
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raise the bar, But then I want I was saying
that it's like these fucking kids only answer questions with questions.
So we're just going around circles for hours.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
A great episode.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
They'll be like, let us in the studio, would only
take him in, and I'll be like, no, it's not
gonna take him minutes. God can't pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Give it.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
It's gonna take an hour and a half. And if
you're Demonic, Beelza Bubby gonna work, You're gonna have to
be Mike.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
That's too many syllables for Scott.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, So come back Tuesday, guys, and I we're gonna
do a fourth and maybe final partner. I'm not sure
on the blanket.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
All right, great job with that, Bud. We're now going
to head over to the fire pit. We will catch
you over there. I guess some nople what's homed is
you can't try to the volume it, guys. I'm putting
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the call out there. We need fire pits. We need
them desperately. We run out of fire pits, we run
out of shows. Can't do fire the show without a
fire pit, absolutely, and we are getting extremely low. It
might be the lowest we've been.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
It's on you, guys.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
No pressure or anything, but I mean, anyways.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Whether the show survives pressure at.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
All, don't worry. What about us? All right? This one
comes to us from Sherry. Sherry sent one in before
was a great story. And the one thing about Sherry
she sends a nice PDF file which is amazing, and
she's an amazing writer.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Thank you, Sherry.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
All right. Many years ago I rented a house that
had a certain energy to it. Was it haunted? Not sure?
Was there something something lingering within the walls that I
called home? I think so. Over the years, unexplained things
happened as sure as a clock keeps time. The cat
would stare at the walls and move his eyes across
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the wallpaper, as if he was following something only he
could see. After finishing a late shift, I came home
exhausted and fell into bed. Soon after, I heard the
buzz of the dryer downstairs go off, signaling that the
cycle was complete. Curious, I went down to the basement
to find that the dryer was empty and cold to
the touch. On another day, while vacuuming the living room,
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the ornament that was sitting on top of the television
televisions were big back then, Hell yeah they were. We
had one of those big gats floor model flew across
the room. The odd thing about these was that the
basement had a cement floor, but it only covered about
three fourths of the space. That left a large area
covered by dirt. Why they never finished the entire basement
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was odd. It was so rough a person could dig
large holes on the side of the house if they wanted.
The space was at least equivalent to the size of
a storage shed. We hung a couple curtains across the
gap so we didn't have to think about the reason
why or what may have happened in the past. Then
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one night I was in a deep sleep when I
heard heavy footsteps that woke me. The sound was coming
from either the back porch or from the basement. The
two were too close together to tell the exact location.
I sat upright in bed, listening as the sound of
the person's heavy foots that heavy steps came across excuse me,
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listening as the sound of the person's heavy steps came
clar and moved down the hall towards my bedroom. This
was a time when I never locked my doors at
any time, day or night. I thought my luck had
finally run out and someone was in my house with
bad intentions. When the man finally appeared in the doorway
of my bedroom, I wish it had been a regular robber.
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The man was see through, almost pixelated, is the best
way I can describe his appearance. He was pointing at
my bedroom window at pointing out my bedroom window at
the house across the street. He had black hair that
was slicked back with hair oil, as was common in
the day. He wore a denim work shirt that was
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buttoned all the way. He wore a belt in dark
blue work pants. The rest of him below the knee
was not there. This is where the apparition's image stopped.
He stood there, pointing, not saying anything before he just
completely disappeared. I did some research on the previous owner
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of the house. Using a reverse directory, I located my
address in the book. From there it provided the names
and occupations of the occupants from the years that the
directory was published. We call this a Henderson directory. It
was better than Facebook creeping is today. There was a
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former resident who worked for the city as a streetcar mechanic.
Considering the clothes he was wearing, I think this may
have been him. After listening to your show, I've come
to accept that he was the type of ghost who
is stuck in a repetitive loop. Strange things happened right
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up to the day I moved out, but I never
again saw this figure. One night, at an afterwork function,
my co worker and I started to talk about all
things paranormal and downright weird, a real fire pit type situation.
One co worker had lots of stories about a house
in her neighborhood growing up that freaked out all the
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kids living in the area. She said, even at Halloween,
kids would not go anywhere near the place. As the
evening wrapped, she offered to give me a ride home.
On the way, she would take a drive by her
old neighborhood and show me the house. We drive for
a while, chatting away while she pulls up in front
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of the house and stops the car. I have my
hand on the door handle and the door cracked open
when she tells me to wait and that she will
drive me the rest of the way home. This was
the house featured in her story. I was godsmat. I
turned to her and said, it's okay, val I live here.
The house you've been telling stories about is my house.
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Not long ago, this house caught fire in the middle
of the night and burned to the ground. That is
probably a good thing. I hope whatever spirit or spirits
were there have found peace in the afterlife. Sherry taking
a second to take that in that intense, that's crazy.
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That was her house. Yeah, yeah, that's nuts.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
That's really that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah that is that really is took her right back
to her house. That's awesome. What a story, very good story, Sherry,
Thank you for that. Sorry I butchered. She writes really well,
Scott doesn't read so well. No, Scott doesn't read so well,
but she doesn't really get If you.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Could next time submit a single syllable.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Version or just record it, then we could play it.
No awesome story. I really like that. That's that's nuts.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
I was very well done. Very well done.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Guys. We need your stories. They don't have to be
as awesome as Sherry's.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But uh, make Scott read them next time.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Next is your turn. So you can record them, you
can write them, just get them in. We are in
desperate need. We hate to have to wrap it after
Ryan's bonus episode, so get those stories in.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
So we got my bonus episode, which is is a bonus,
and then we got yours, and so there's still there's
actually three more to Spooky season. If you guys, we're
extending Spooky season.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, that's right, and we'll have a couple more bonuses
coming up here soon. Troy. Troy's got a good part
of that. He's going to do.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Get a double partner means well, something special for you guys.
He's got to working on something before the Christmas season.
So we get some stuff in the in the pipeline.
We take time off during the summer of this This
summer obviously stuff happened that wasn't playing time off, but
summer season is when we both get at our busiest,
so we cycle a bit, but we try to make
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up for it during the fall and winter with some
extra stuff.
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Just a few of the topics that we will tackle.
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On the shuttles where you found me at you can't
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and then you see their cracks, all these creepy things
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the actions at. So this enough you want it? UFOs,
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Speaker 1 (00:56):
It won't do you know what the thing in the
world is? Hey, guys, and welcome back to episode one
sixty two of Beyond the Shadows.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Welcome back Shadow Armie.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
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Oh can't can't shout out any names the one on
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they really do. Thank you for taking the time.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yep, And I don't think we have much housekeeping. What's
in the news.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It's actually been a surprisingly quiet week in the news.
I'm disappointed, Florida looking at you. Come on.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Nothing happened this week, not much really, it was it
was tough finding anything.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So we get a seventy year old Italian man who's
been collecting disability payments for over half a century due
to his blindness. That's a lot of.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Time Spotify out of blindness.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
A work related accident fifty three years ago resulted in
him being declared fully and legally blind. But once some
strange activity came to their attention, Vincenzia police did some
checking and they found him using his dangerous power gardening
tools like just buzzing around all just buzzing around like
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unencumbered as well as like and when he was in
the supermarket, they watched him like grabbing stuff off the
shelf and examining it with his hands, but checking out,
checking out the labels, and Clurton turning it over Gluten
really fucks with my blindness. But really gave it away
was the fact he was spending sixty grand a month
on porn. I made that part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
That's why I started laughing, like I don't remember, I
just like the sound.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
As you guys can all figure out what we're leading
to is he is not blind at all. He hasn't
been in the fifty three years he's been collecting disability
and he's collected close to one point five million in payments,
which is a shitload of money. But you figure over
fifty three years he wasn't drawing that large of a payment. Still,
he's he's defraud of the government from a large amount
of money. So he's he's obviously going to serve some
time for this. Oh yeah, he's getting like what twenty
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thousand a year or something like that. So we get
a Pruvian Bishop, Zero GESP Lopez of Julie, Peru. He's
been forced to resign due to having an affair with
the mistress. At least seventeen of them in seventeen so God,
I think the first time was probably dismissed as like
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bad judgment. Because he figured the second one would cancel
out the first and he'd be good to go, you know,
right right by bang too. They don't count. But then
it just snowballed from there. Before you know what, you
get a seventeen and it looks bad. One of the
women also happened to be.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
A nun, right, it's I don't know why. I don't
know why they don't allow them to just have sex. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, yeah, I agree, but last time we covered a
bishop and a nun having sex, they got walled up
in uh yeah, rectory. Rectory. Uh. The scandal has been
going on for a long time. Sorry, I lost my place.
Been going on for a long time, and it finally
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came to light of all the stuff he's done. It
came to light because he accidentally sent pictures of his
junk to his cleaning lady, not whoever he intended it to.
She was not one of the seventeens.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Bishop. He thought the daily prayers are coming.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, No, she thought that was today's assignment. I gotta
clean that that things grow.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So apparently she ratted him out to the church. That's
how we get caught. So the picture of his junk
cleaning la. He's still denying he did anything wrong. I'm
sure the church is like, what's up with the dick pics?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
What's up with thy Holy?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Lastly, we have police in Springfield, Missouri, were showing a
video from Missouri State College that showed sophomore Ryan Schaefer
smashing car windows, ripping off mirrors, denting hoods, and all
of that type of shit. So when they paid him
a visit and showed him the footage, he admitted that
the person on tape did resemble him quite a lot,
quite a bit, but insisted that it was not. So.
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Police asked he hand over his cell phone, which he
begrudgingly did, and they noticed that he had just happened
to have it. Asked a chat GPT, what if I
smashed the shit out of multiple cars as well? As
is there any way they could know what was me?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And chat GPT's like, he fucking did it? It was him?
Unrelated search.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I asked that just for research.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I saw that someone had done that. I was worried
and I was putting myself in their position.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
If you could believe that they actually caught him, I.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Don't know, can I don't know, can they just take
your telephone your phone for something like they asked him
he had it over. Yeah, I mean, it seems like
they sure get a lot of stuff out of people's
texts and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, and one of those cases, I'm sure if
you're a judge signing a search warrant, which I don't
think it came to in this case, it's clearly the
fucking kid you're hearing the warning. Clearly did he didn't
hide himself, He wasn't wearing a mask or anything. It
was one hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But clearly he's not too bright but apparently not. All right, Bud, Well,
what do you got this spooky season for us? So?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Last spooky season we did two episodes about the Black
Eyed Kids, and those went over really well. Uh, people
like the we're gonna do don't let them in volume
three today.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Excellent black Eyed Kids return, awesome, looking forward to it.
All right, guys, we'll catch over there, do.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know what? All right, So, back when we did
episodes one oh five and one oh six, I already
did a background in general description of the Black Eyed Kids,
So I'm not gonna get too deep into that here today.
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I'll just do a quick recap. They are generally described
as being between six and sixteen years of age. They
usually approach a person who is alone, and almost always
at night, making strange requests like to be let into
your car for a ride or into your house for
something to eat. Their clothing is often too large and
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very outdated, and their skin is known for being very pale.
Their movements can seem quite unnatural and almost robotic. They
will make the same request over and over again, becoming
more persistent and irritated if the person doesn't give in
to their demands. They are perceived as being very threatening,
although they rarely make any actual threats. They show up
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seemingly out of nowhere can disappear just as quickly. Often
they appear somewhere they had not been only a split
second earlier, and either disappear right in front of the
witness's eyes or make their impossible get away in the
split second while they were looking away. The most dramatic
detail about these black eyed kids is, obviously, as their
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name states, their entirely black eyes. Not just their iris
or their pupil, but their entire eye is pitch black. Frequently,
they hide this feature early on in their encounters, either
with sunglasses, hoods, or by looking down into away from
the approached person. Sometimes hiding their eyes isn't necessary at
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all if the encounter takes place in a suitably dark environment,
which it frequently does.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
So they're goth kids pretty much, they said.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Lastly about the beeks, it said that they will only
appear to those who are already aware of their presence.
So stop listening right now. You might have some plausible deliability,
Ryan blew it for everybody, but someone had to have
seen them without being aware of them, where there would
be no reports to go. Something happened after first? What
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came first, the BK or the egg. It's going to
start somewhere, so when you really start digging, the encounters
going back much further than people think. But the now
worldwide phenomenon of the beks began in nineteen ninety six
when Texas journalist Brian Bethel was approached by two bks
outside of a movie theater. I'm not going to rehash
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that encounter here, as we covered in episode one oh five.
So when he started writing about his encounter, he found
out shocky, so he thought it was a unique encounter,
and when he started writing on online, So this is
early days of the internet. He still got enough information
to realize that he was not unique in that aspect.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's been happening. That seems to happen to a lot
of people. They think something was unique to them, and
then they're finding out, oh shit, this is a lot
of peop people.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And it's probably why you're hesitant to make note of
it the first time at all, because if it's that
unique you think it, I'm just gonna si like a
fucking nut job. Nobody's going to believe this. I'm not
even gonna say anything about it. And I bet that happens.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I think that's the same thing with like the Mendela effect. Yeah,
you never heard about anything like that, but now all
of a sudden where everybody can compare notes or whatever. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Bethel's friend, John Northwood was a paranormal investigator, and two
years after his friend's famous encounter, he had one of
his own. In Portland, Oregon. When leaving a seminar in
nineteen ninety eight, Northwood was approached in the parking garage
by a colleague named Doug. Doug basically asked for a
ride around the block. A few times, as there was
a group of kids hanging around outside his own car
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that had him unnerved. So Northwood obliged, and as they
were passing Doug's car, he noticed a group of three
kids hanging around. There were two males on a female.
John estimated the girl and the older boy were both
fourteen or fifteen, and the younger boy was about twelve.
The girl was smoking a cigarette and looking very bored,
heavily made up and in full on goth mode. The
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two boys were, in his words, scary as shit. They
looked way too intense for kids. Northwood didn't just drive
past the car, as Doug had asked, but he made
the mistake of slowing down when he passed. The girl
stayed put, but the two boys walked over to John's car,
with one of them coming to each side. John made
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sure the doors were locked before asking the kids what
they were doing loitering around someone's car. The young one stated,
it's scary out here all alone. We just wanted to
ride home. The older one then adds, you'd promise you'd
help us out. Doug denies offering them help, stating that
he doesn't even know them. Weirdly, though, Doug seemed to
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have finally given in and announced to John he was
just going to get out of the car. When John
stopped as Doug reached for the door handle, John witnessed
the two older The two kids suddenly seemed much older
and a whole lot scarier. It was only then that
he noticed that their eyes were solid black. These are
his words, edge to edge, no pupil, no iris, nothing,
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just a liquid black pool. John quickly sped away from
the kids, and they came on in pursuit, which is
actually an unusual reaction in these black eyed kids don't
usually run after you. The two boys set out behind
the car, and John found out that they were right
on his bumper. They made their way down from the
parking garage's third floor at a speed that he estimated
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to be about thirty five miles per hour, and somehow
found that the older male had already beaten them down.
He was waiting on the sidewalk outside. When they reached
the bottom, he made directly for the car's door. John
was able to take the corner and leave the boy behind,
but when he looked in his rear view mirror, the
boy was nowhere to be seen. Despite the fact there
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was nowhere where he could have gone that fast.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
The menacing feeling that had been plaguing John since the
start of the encounter was gone. While they drove, Doug
told John that he had been approached by the younger
male earlier in the night asking for a ride home.
He had given the boy a short ride to the
seminar and told him to wait until he was done,
and then he would then drive him home.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Oh, so he already drove.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He had already drove the younger kid. When he returned
to the car later and found three kids waiting for him,
He'd been unnerved and he'd changed his mind. So they
returned to Doug's car maybe ten minutes later and found
no sign of any kids hanging around. Doug got into
his car without incident, and they both left the parking garage.
John followed behind Doug's car about by what he later
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guessed to be about fifty feet. John witnessed as Doug
drove through a yellow light into an intersection, where he
collided with a truck and was killed. Geeesh. John stuck
around just long enough to give a police for a report,
and later on, after getting back into his own car
to leave, he again saw those same two black eyed
kids staring at him from about two blocks away. So
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this case featured a lot of the b e K staples.
They initially managed to hide their menacing black eyes seemingly
until a time of their own, choosing to reveal them.
People rarely notice the black guys right off the bat.
They telepathically convinced Doug to open his door to them
despite his obvious terror, And he never says that, but
we can assume that he was terrified, and all of
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a sudden he's saying, screw it, I'm getting out, reaches
for the door. It's a strange move. They disappear from
John's view despite the physical impossibility of having done so,
and Doug, who admits to having given into one of
them earlier in the night, then suffers a catastrophic misfortune
for having done so.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, a couple things that I don't notice is like
recognizes the fact he actually gave one a ride, which
is you don't usually hear.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But when you do, somebody who gives into the beeks
almost certainly meets misfortune later. Now we find out later
that he gave the kid a ride and in an
hour after that he's dead.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And then the other thing is them chasing after him.
I've never heard that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That doesn't matter very often. No, they'll yell after them,
they rarely physically chase them. There have long been reports
of paranormal activity in Cannock Chase, Staffordshire, England. It's a
paranormal hotspot that has seen everything from UFOs to a
pig man, werewolves, ghosts, and a black eyed child. The
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black Eyed child reports go back to at least the
nineteen seventies, well before Brian Bethel's encounter. A young couple
was approached while walking through the forest by a young
girl with completely black eyes. In a very childish voice.
She asked them for help. As in most b e.
K encounters, the couple reported feeling a sense of unease,
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but there started before they even saw her, as though
her approach itself had caught to shift in the environment,
so they felt strange before they even saw the girls.
That's different. She's been encountered many times in the years since,
with some reporting feeling nauseous and having severe headaches after
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or even before their encounter with her. She said to
be wearing old fashioned clothing and moves in an unnatural,
almost robotic fashion. In another encounter, albeit one reported in
the tabloid The Daily Star, So we take this one
with a grain salmon. It's like the National Inquirer. Here,
a woman and her daughter were out walking the same
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general area when they heard a young girl scream. They
ran to the spot they believed the sound came from,
but didn't find anyone. While they stopped to rest, the
mother noticed a young girl had somehow snuck up behind
them and was standing about ten feet away with her
hands covering her eyes. The woman guessed the girl to
be about ten, but when she took the hands off
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of her eyes, the mother experienced the terror of those
cold black eyes. The mother grabbed her daughter in horror
and took several steps back. When she glanced up again,
only a second or two later, the girl had vanished.
There was nowhere she had gone so quickly, could have
gone so quickly, but nonetheless she was gone. Lee Buckley
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described another encounter with this same black eyed girl in
his book Haunted Cannic Chase True Stories from the UK's
Spookiest Location. The encounter involves two seventeen year olds who
had been separated due to the COVID pandemic, and they
decided to do some illegal camping in the forest. So
all these were in the same spot. It was around
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midnight when they heard noise outside their tent. At first,
they assumed it was a deer and they stayed put.
That is until they heard distinctly human footsteps decided to
go out and take a look. At first, they didn't
see anything, but they heard the sound of a child giggling,
just like a scene from a horror movie. At first,
they couldn't see much more than someone or something darting
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from treated tree and their flashlight beams occasionally stopping to
peep out at them.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That's just terrifying in the middle of the woods, very terrifying.
The woods are scary at night anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
This is the type of stuff that keeps people up
at night. Literally, this is what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
The noises you're talking about reminds me when we were right.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah. Well, you can hear the noises. You could picture
somebody falling on their beams. You always see it in
horror movies. You can imagine in real life with your
beam just can't quite catch up with them. They just
beer buying the tree before darting buying another one. But
you know, you focked. You know it's not good. It
does sound somewhat to Rice Fell for sure. Eventually it
stops and steps out into the open for them to
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see it clearly. Buckley, when he was writing, change the
kids' names to protect their identity, so he refers to
them as Ben and Kylie. Kylie said, I was absolutely terrified.
I'd read the stories in the news about the black
eyed child, but it wasn't until the things stood right
in front of me that I could quite believe them.
I knew instantly that we were dealing with the real
thing because it moved in ways humans can simply not move.
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It was like it could teleport from one place to
another when it was moving around and hiding behind the trees.
Ben added, I was shining my torch right at her,
and she just stood there, staring at us with her
head slightly dipped. That's when the giggling started to get
louder and louder. It really sounded like it was coming
from all around us, even though I could see clearly
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that she was standing right in front of us. It
was really disorienting for a couple of seconds. Then she
bent down for a moment as if adjusting her shoes,
stood back up, and ran off down a nearby path
through a dense section of trees. They stayed huddled up
in their tent and counted the minutes until daylight so
they could make their way back to Ben's car. When
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they exited the tent around seven am, they found someone
had lined up stones all around the perimeter of their tent,
as well as hanging some sort of strange stick sculptures
from all of the trees.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That's very blair Witch.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I actually had a note that said that exact thing.
They then made the fifteen minute walk back to Ben's
car without incident, but when they were almost there, Kylie
spotted the same small girl with black eyes peeping out
at her from behind an oak tree. They showed it
for her to quote leave them alone as they sprinted
to his car and made their getaway.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That usually works, Yeah, you leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
A demon A ghost doesn't matter, like fine, if they
ask you for your demon, you got to answer yes,
we're out. So this one is slightly different in that
the girl never spoke a word in their report, so
she didn't ask them for anything. She wasn't asking for permission.
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She never made an attempt to gain entry to their tather.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
This one seems more like a spooky ghost or spirit.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's it's in the black eyed kid genre, but I'm
not sure it's a black eyed kid in the traditional sense,
because she doesn't do anything any of the things that
black eyed kids would do. She never asked them for anything,
which they always do. In the nineteen sixties, along the
A thirty four road, there took place what would later
be called the Canic Chase murders. Right near where these
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last few sightings occurred. The bodies of a five and
a six year old girl were found partially hidden in
a ditch. The following year, the body of a seven
year old girl was also found in the area. Two
years later, the botched abduction attempt of a ten year
old girl led to the arrest of Raymond Leslie Morris.
It was charged with only one murder, but who knows
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how many young girls he might might have fallen victim
to him. He died in prison in twenty fourteen, and
the first reports of the black Eyed Girl of Canic
Chase began not long after the murders he committed. Is
she the ghost of one of these young girls. Or
are the murders and the subsequent appearance of a black
eyed girl ghost just a coincidence. That's hard to say,
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actually truly is, but possible, possible for sure. So generally speaking,
the EK seem to be working off a script almost
in many of their encounters. If the initial pre is unsuccess,
plea is unsuccessful, they will try again and become more urgent.
If this doesn't work, there is more than one b
e K present, the young, youngest looking one will generally
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begin to sob and cry, although the witness will generally
describe it as a feeble attempt at a fake cry.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I'm sitting here racking my brain trying to remember what
I said. I thought they were, yeah, because I kind
of lean towards alien at some points, but at other
points other things. Well, that's what I don't remember what
I said.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I did the same thing, but you don't have to
because I did the same the first time. As more
cases come in, it should shift your opinion, you know
what I mean. That's kind of what science and.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Some of its demonic or some of it seems like alien.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Later on you'll find I deliberately chose cases to lean
you one way or another, because there's only so many
cases out there, and one case will point in one direction,
the another point in another. But there's so many out there.
But generally they do some of the same things every time,
and the kids beginning to cry and robotic like they'll
always say the kid cried almost on cue. And they're
not very convincing, right. It almost seems like they know
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what a part they're supposed to play, and they're playing it,
but not very convincingly. So take this encounter from a
woman in the US. She understandably withheld her name in location.
She was alone in her living room late one night
when a knock came at the door. When she opened
the door, she could see two younger children at her door,
a girl that appeared to be about eleven and a
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boy who looked maybe nine. Instantly, the woman says, something
in her stomach told her there was something amiss. The
girl politely asked, ma'am, can we please come inside and
use your phone to call our mom. The woman was
torn by the terror in the pit of her stomach
that she couldn't quite explain, and the sight of two
children standing on her porch. She didn't answer right away,
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and the older girl took a step forward. It was
only when the light from inside the house that fell
on the girl that the woman was able to get
a good look at her. Her heart skipped a beat
when she saw those midnight black eyes. All maternal instinct
flutterr in that moment, as every hair on her body
stood an end. She closed the door to only a
crack when the girl spoke again, pleading this time, please, ma'am,
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we're really scared and alone out of here. We have
to come inside, please help us out. Nope, And at
that at the same time, both kids began to cry,
or at least pretend to cry like on cue same time.
Woman was unmoved and closed the door in their faces.
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They eventually went away, but to this day she remembers
those lifeless black eyes vividly. So in this encounter, we
have the typical approach at night and of a person
who was alone. But when the kids approached a closed
door in the middle of the night, how do they
invariably know that the person inside is alone? And they
always are always are they have they been watching the
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house for quite some time or is it possible that
they just have another sense, and I lean towards the
latter here.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, I think we also talked about vampire stuff too,
didn't we.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I think everything about the Black Eyed kids is vampires.
I do, if you ask me truly what they what
box they check its vampires. But I don't believe in vampires,
so we're going to go in another direction. But they
check everything from vampire lore.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
They really do, because they've got to be invited in.
It sounds like there they don't just come in and
they're really white complexion.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I can't find a single instance of black eyed kids
where they come in without an invite, not one, and
I have scoured. They have to be given an invite.
That's that's very vampire, but it's also not an accident
when you can't find a single case. They are clearly
bound by some kind of law whatever they are. So
in this one we have the typical crying from the kids,
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this time, both of them. On time is in queued,
and as we discovered lastly, is always the case, they
have to ask for permission to enter rather than just
doing so. So whatever they are, it seems certain that
they do not have the power to enter someone's house, car,
or tent, whatever have you, without being invited by the owner.
And just as importantly, they seem in many cases to
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deliberately reveal their black eyes to someone who hasn't seen
them yet before they decide whether or not to invite
them in. And I've noticed this as I've doug. A
lot of times they didn't have to look up, but
they do so it almost seems like it's necessary for
their victim to know what they were up against before
granting permission or denying.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Or maybe they can charm them into that's a vampire
thing too, and could be doing what they want.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Could be a lot of it is, And I'll.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Convince you like that dude, they convinced him to open
his door, Yeah, was it after looking into those black
eyes that he does.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But you know, like I said, in a lot of
these cases, the kids are looking down or into the
woods or whatever. The person isn't scared that much, but
before the person makes their decision, the kid will deliberately
look at them and reveal the horror, right, and then
the person decides. It's like the kids have to reveal
themselves before they make it calculated. Almost seems like they're
bound by that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Back in twenty twelve, in northeast Louisiana, a man was
working the overnight shift at the gas station located just
off a lonely highway. At this hour, he kept the
doors locked and he only went out to the pump
to pump gas if someone drove across the bell. If
someone wanted to enter the store portion, they need to
either knock or ring a bell, and he could buzz
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them in from a switch located behind the counter. He
had been reading a book when the station suffered a
power failure that left him using his cell phone as
a flashlight to reach and activate the generator. This only
carried enough power were to operate some of the station's needs,
so the station's four court lights came on, but the
rest of the place remained in darkness. Out of the
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corner of his eye, he was shocked to see three
kids riding up on bicycles despite the late hour. Two
of the kids hopped off their bikes and quickly approached
the gas station's door, while the third one remained behind.
He walked over to the door to meet them, and
he opened it up to see if they needed anything. Yes,
somewhat they were doing out at such a late hour,
so close to the highway. Two young girls stood before him,
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and one of them said she needed to use his
phone to call her mother. He handed to her cell phone,
but he didn't open the door to let them in.
But he didn't know why. They made him uneasy For
some reason, he couldn't quite put his finger on. It
was only when the light from the cell phone hid
her face that he finally realized the girl had entirely
black eyes. They both did, and how he hadn't noticed
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yet confused him. Inside of the station was in darkness,
but the outside was not. Instead of saying thank you
or making the call, the girl simply dropped the phone
on the ground while a look of both confusion and
anger came across her face. No, not that phone, the
proper phone. I need to come inside. She pointed to
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a landlight inside the station. When she told him her
sister was cold, scared and needed to use the bathroom
on queue, the little girl began to sob. He locked
the door, and the older girl became enraged. She began
to kick the door. He ran and hid behind the
gas station's counter and watched the cameras as the girl
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stared into the lens and right into his soul as well.
After a period of time, the two kids turned away
in unison and walked away, back to their bikes, as
if called unseen by a call by a voice unseen,
And they walked away, and no time they had rejoined
their third and the three of them were gone.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Are they usually in groups of three?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They're usually in groups, yeah, not always three, two. I've
seen four, generally two at least two, but they are
occasionally alone. So understandably, he did not go outside to
look for them, but instead he rewound the cameras to
make sure he had proof of what he had just encountered.
And just as in several other cases of the black
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eyed kids, the cameras showed nothing. No kids on bikes,
no kids at the door, no kids at all.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
That's vampirish too.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, very much.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
The things I would want to note about this story,
outside of the things we've already covered, is the failure
of the power only seconds before the kids arrived. I
don't think that was a coincidence at all.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Doesn't seem to be.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Secondly, the black eyed kids often seem to be from
a time other than our own. They wear outdated clothing,
and they genuinely seem confused by technology. The girl made
no attempt to use the cell phone or appear to
have any clue even what it.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Was, seemed defended by it. Yeah, she was pissed.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And lastly, they have no fear of being caught on
cameras because even when they walk directly in front of them,
they still seem to know that they will not show
up on film. And her book Danger at Your Door
Encounters with Black Eyed Kids, Jemma Jade details an encounter
from an anonymous man in Nevada. The man had just
finished shutting down everything for the night was getting ready
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to go to bed when he heard a knock on
his front door. He decided against opening the door and
instead looked out the people standing there. He saw a
boy who looked to be somewhere between twelve and fifty.
The boy was dressed entirely in black, had jet black hair,
and was staring at the ground. The man yelled through
the door, asking what the boy wanted. He replied that
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he was hungry and he needed money for food. There
had been some robberies in the neighborhood of late, and
the man was suspicious that this was just a setup.
There was likely an accomplice or two waiting just out
of view, and when he opened the door to give
the boy money, they would strike. As such, he told
the boy that he couldn't help him, and it was
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only then that the boy looked up and revealed those eyes.
Not only did the boy have coal black eyes the bait,
but the man also made note of the boy's unnaturally
pale skin. He also thought it looked like the boy
was wearing a wig, and that his eyebrows and lips
had probably been painted on. He also thought the boy's
skin looked very strange, as though it too had been painted.
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The boy pleaded once again that he was hungry and
just needed some money for food. What bothered the man
just as much as the boy's appearance, was that his
second request from money and food was the exact same
as the first, not just the same words, but spoken
the exact same way. Huh I thought it sounded robotic
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and rehearsed, more like a recording than an actual child speaking.
The man again declined to help and told the boy
to go away and not come back, staring directly into
the people. The boy simply said okay and began to retreat,
but he didn't turn and walk away. He walked backwards
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until he reached the edge of the man's driveway and
then disappear. He didn't fade away slowly or walk out
of the man's field of vision. He simply disappeared. The man,
forgetting his terror, ran outside to see if there was
any sign of where the boy may have gone, but
he found only an emptyard. So while we've covered the
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fact that the black eyed kids have to be invited in,
we've also covered the fact that they will use any
means that they're disposable to get the invite. Indirect threats,
emotional blackmail, guilt, tales of woe, and any witnesses report
telepathic means the person will feel compelled to open the
door to them, despite every fiber of their being telling
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them not to. It seems the kids have mind control too,
But if the victim stays firm in their refusal, they
will remain safe. But those unlucky few who give in
and let them in end up paying dearly. In episode
one oh five, we covered a couple in Vermont who
gave into their demands only to endure a series of
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misfortunes later on. Earlier in today's episode, we talked about Doug,
who gave a ride to one of these kids earlier
in the night, before refusing to do so a second time.
Later that night, he was dead. A woman who chose
to remain unnamed was driving home with her young son
approximately nine, which he realized she had forgotten to pick
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up a few items. She pulled into a mini mart
store she was quite familiar with and parked near the
door so she would be able to keep an eye
on her son while she ran and n real quick. Inevitably,
her suv and her son were out of her sight
for a few minutes while she grabbed the atoms she needed.
When she got up to the counter and she could
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see her car again, she felt relaxed enough to chit
chat with the shopkeeper for a few moments. When she
got into the car and asked her son if he
was okay, she noticed in the rear view mirror that
he was sitting stone faced and rigid, wearing a terrified expression.
Her son was sitting directly behind her, and she only
now noticed that the passenger's passenger side door was open.
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There was a little boy sitting on the seat beside
him that she did not recognize.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
But that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
He had his arm around her son, yet no doubt,
the little boy was staring at her, and it was
in the rearview mirror that she noticed his black eyes.
She hopped out of the car and grabbed her son.
She ran into the store and told the storekeeper someone
had broken a nor car and tried to abduct her child.
The storekeeper called nine one one while she called her husband.
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When the police arrived and went back and she went
back outside, there was no child in her car. The
police took a report, but no child by that description
was ever reported missing nor ever seen again. So here
we come back to the invite. The woman had obviously
not invited the child into a car, but when talking
to her son about the events, it turns out.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
That he had, so he led him in.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yes, he was sitting in the back seat when the
mysterious boy came up and knocked on the window. He
thought it would be fun to have another child to
play with, so he invited him in. The boy had
just gotten into the car when his mother came back out.
When her husband arrived, the mother was still so unnerved
by the experience that she asked him to drive the
suv home while she took his car. On the way home,
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he was overcome by a nasty smell before becoming dizzy
and confused. Just before passing out, he remembers seeing a
little boy with black eyes sitting directly behind him with
a look of pure evil on his face. The suv
was totaled in the ensuing accident, but fortunately the man
was unhurt.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Shortly thereafter, their son became ill. For the next year,
he was in and out of the hospital, suffering from
a myriad of symptoms. Every time that seemed like he
was improving whether the doctors had a handle on his symptoms,
they would change and he'd become sick again. It was
only after a year or so that the illness broke
and it was like he'd never been sick at all.
(37:35):
The boy was able to tell his mom that the
only thing he'd been able to say that day before
she got into the car was to ask the mysterious
little boy if he wanted to come over to his
house and play with he and his mom sometime.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Huh oops, Yeah, I could totally see my kid doing
that totally come on.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
In so so far we've covered multiple encounters where somebody
gives in to their demands and the consequence is a good,
generally disastrous. So I get one more example where that occurs.
This one I also found in the Jemma Jade book
Danger at Your Door. This one features a man taking
a road trip from Marcadia, California, to go and visit
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a friend.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
The destination isn't specifically stated, but it was a drive
that would take him more than a day to complete.
After a long day of driving, he decided to pop
into a dive bar for a couple of cocktails and
stay in a hotel for the night before resuming his
journey the next morning. While sitting at the bar, the
man engaged in a long conversation with a pleasant lady.
(38:41):
They shared a couple of drinks together he felt totally
comfortable later that night, accepting her offer to spend the
night at her place. He left his car behind at
the bar and rode with the lady. He became uncomfortable
with how far out of town and deep into the
woods the woman lived. It was pitch dark and there
were no other houses nearby. His initial fear was perhaps
(39:04):
that he was being set up for a robbery, but
when they finally arrived at her house, he overcame his
fear enough to have tons of sex with a lady.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Wow, he rallied, I'm scared, Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, guy, one on one right there. This lasted until
late night, so they had a lot of sex. He
eventually went downstairs to the kitchen to get himself a
drink of water a sandwich.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Surris Wind himself.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Wasn't that good of it. It was only then that
he noticed there were a bunch of quote small frightening
looking children wandering around the house, despite it being in
the wee hours of the night. And the scariest part
was that all of these kids had pitch black eyes.
He never says it, but it sounds like there's a
fucking lot of not two or three, but a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
He's in a deno.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, somehow the man was able to go back upstairs
and go to sleep. There's no fucking chance I'd be
going back upstairs and go to sleep after I saw
her house full of demon children.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
He went back and get laid again. Probably the only
real guy's gonna overlook a by too freaking demons in
the downstairs is to go upstairs.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, one more round. That was pretty good. Keep the
demon kids at bay for one more So he probably
woke up the next morning thinking to have one more
quickie before she drove him back to the hotel. But
the vibe had significantly shifted. The woman no longer seemed
(40:39):
happy about his presence, and she took on a hostile vibe.
She kicked him out of her house and he was
and he was forced to walk several miles back through
unfamiliar territory back in its own. So what he didn't
tell us is that he thought, just because she had
black eyed kids, she'd be down for brown eyed sex.
(41:03):
But she wasn't, and that led to that's how you
make she wasn't down for that.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's why she.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Story doesn't say that. I inferred that the whole story.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I can figure out what happened. I knew where he
went wrong.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Black eyed kids downstairs. I know what I can do
this morning. Nope, she wasn't having it. She booted him,
so he had to walk his ass back to town.
He made it back without further incident and completed his
journey as scheduled. The man, who had previously been in
great physical condition, became sick shortly after his encounter with
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a woman, and within six months he was dead bladder cancer.
The man stated her friends that he was positive it
was his encounter with a woman and her kids that
caused his illness.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
And he said worth it.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Hm. He reiterated that why all the children had black eyes,
The woman herself was completely normal. So is it possible
for a black eyed person to hide their black eyes
when they choose, or is it possible for a normal
eye for lack of a better word, human being to
give birth to a bunch of black eyed kids? So
that would mean that would mean a regular whatever, non
(42:25):
black eyed person to pro propreate with a black eyed person.
So she does not have black eyed her kids do.
It's it's confusing.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
It's obviously a recessive gene.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
We're gonna have to meet the dad, I think the
next one. The man never gave the children permission for anything,
but obviously he did consent to the woman's requests, so
it's likely that's what doomed him because he never spoke
to the kids. Sure we have for he was sick,
but probably haven't sex with the black Eyed kid demon woman.
(43:03):
I mean it was good. She was, she was in
a house full of them, she had she had something
to do with it. So I think one thing we
can all agree on is that the Black Eyed kids
are obviously not kids at all. I think everybody that's
listening to our episodes would agree on that the kids
are a camouflage without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Who's doing the camouflage and what they're hiding is hard
to say, and we'll get more into that. So while
the b K mania began with the Brian Bethel case
in nineteen ninety six, that was almost certainly due to
the emergence of the Internet and the easiest spread of
information from that point. So I don't believe for a
second that Brian Bethel was the first case. He was
just the first one that made it out there. That's
(43:43):
why he's considered the godfather of this. But the cases
go way back, way back.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Further, Apparently they've been around a long time, these demon
alien vampire kids.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Are, So how would someone in the nineteen eighties have
known that they encounter what they had encountered was happening
to others too? That's the thing back then. If you
can't like click and know other people had done it.
So something happening in the seventies, you think it's isolated.
You can't read about it anyway, like, Okay, this is weird.
People are gonna laugh at me. I'm just gonna shut
the fuck up. And I bet that's what happened all
the time. Oh yeah, there's no books about it, there's
(44:15):
no newspaper articles about it, and you're not one click away.
So those stories just died. I bet there's been a
ton of them that just didn't get out there.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Because now they're just local folklore. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
So at this point, the Bak's have been spotted all
around the world, but the hottest spot seem to have
been Staffordshire, England, London, England, I in France, North Carolina, Vermont, Virginia, Ohio, Louisiana,
and Oregon. So you would assume that me and Scott
(44:49):
are safe here in Maine, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
We'll get into that on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Tuesday Bonus episode.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, it's volume four.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Ryan is bonusing you up during the spooky season. Were
a bonus in a long.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Time, been a while, So Tuesday, you guys gotta tune
back in for the conclusion, or probably not the conclusion.
Another episode of Black Eyed Kids. I was taking next Halloween,
we gotta have like a black eyed kid in the
studio here. We're gonna raise the bar again. We're gonna
have like one inf We're gonna have to find that
lady and make some black I can't what if I'm
in the studio here for an interview or something, gonna
(45:28):
raise the bar, But then I want I was saying
that it's like these fucking kids only answer questions with questions.
So we're just going around circles for hours.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
A great episode.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
They'll be like, let us in the studio, would only
take him in, and I'll be like, no, it's not
gonna take him minutes. God can't pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Give it.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
It's gonna take an hour and a half. And if
you're Demonic, Beelza Bubby gonna work, You're gonna have to
be Mike.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
That's too many syllables for Scott.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, So come back Tuesday, guys, and I we're gonna
do a fourth and maybe final partner. I'm not sure
on the blanket.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
All right, great job with that, Bud. We're now going
to head over to the fire pit. We will catch
you over there. I guess some nople what's homed is
you can't try to the volume it, guys. I'm putting
(46:23):
the call out there. We need fire pits. We need
them desperately. We run out of fire pits, we run
out of shows. Can't do fire the show without a
fire pit, absolutely, and we are getting extremely low. It
might be the lowest we've been.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
It's on you, guys.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
No pressure or anything, but I mean, anyways.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Whether the show survives pressure at.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
All, don't worry. What about us? All right? This one
comes to us from Sherry. Sherry sent one in before
was a great story. And the one thing about Sherry
she sends a nice PDF file which is amazing, and
she's an amazing writer.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Thank you, Sherry.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
All right. Many years ago I rented a house that
had a certain energy to it. Was it haunted? Not sure?
Was there something something lingering within the walls that I
called home? I think so. Over the years, unexplained things
happened as sure as a clock keeps time. The cat
would stare at the walls and move his eyes across
(47:23):
the wallpaper, as if he was following something only he
could see. After finishing a late shift, I came home
exhausted and fell into bed. Soon after, I heard the
buzz of the dryer downstairs go off, signaling that the
cycle was complete. Curious, I went down to the basement
to find that the dryer was empty and cold to
the touch. On another day, while vacuuming the living room,
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the ornament that was sitting on top of the television
televisions were big back then, Hell yeah they were. We
had one of those big gats floor model flew across
the room. The odd thing about these was that the
basement had a cement floor, but it only covered about
three fourths of the space. That left a large area
covered by dirt. Why they never finished the entire basement
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was odd. It was so rough a person could dig
large holes on the side of the house if they wanted.
The space was at least equivalent to the size of
a storage shed. We hung a couple curtains across the
gap so we didn't have to think about the reason
why or what may have happened in the past. Then
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one night I was in a deep sleep when I
heard heavy footsteps that woke me. The sound was coming
from either the back porch or from the basement. The
two were too close together to tell the exact location.
I sat upright in bed, listening as the sound of
the person's heavy foots that heavy steps came across excuse me,
(48:57):
listening as the sound of the person's heavy steps came
clar and moved down the hall towards my bedroom. This
was a time when I never locked my doors at
any time, day or night. I thought my luck had
finally run out and someone was in my house with
bad intentions. When the man finally appeared in the doorway
of my bedroom, I wish it had been a regular robber.
(49:20):
The man was see through, almost pixelated, is the best
way I can describe his appearance. He was pointing at
my bedroom window at pointing out my bedroom window at
the house across the street. He had black hair that
was slicked back with hair oil, as was common in
the day. He wore a denim work shirt that was
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buttoned all the way. He wore a belt in dark
blue work pants. The rest of him below the knee
was not there. This is where the apparition's image stopped.
He stood there, pointing, not saying anything before he just
completely disappeared. I did some research on the previous owner
(50:02):
of the house. Using a reverse directory, I located my
address in the book. From there it provided the names
and occupations of the occupants from the years that the
directory was published. We call this a Henderson directory. It
was better than Facebook creeping is today. There was a
(50:26):
former resident who worked for the city as a streetcar mechanic.
Considering the clothes he was wearing, I think this may
have been him. After listening to your show, I've come
to accept that he was the type of ghost who
is stuck in a repetitive loop. Strange things happened right
(50:46):
up to the day I moved out, but I never
again saw this figure. One night, at an afterwork function,
my co worker and I started to talk about all
things paranormal and downright weird, a real fire pit type situation.
One co worker had lots of stories about a house
in her neighborhood growing up that freaked out all the
(51:08):
kids living in the area. She said, even at Halloween,
kids would not go anywhere near the place. As the
evening wrapped, she offered to give me a ride home.
On the way, she would take a drive by her
old neighborhood and show me the house. We drive for
a while, chatting away while she pulls up in front
(51:31):
of the house and stops the car. I have my
hand on the door handle and the door cracked open
when she tells me to wait and that she will
drive me the rest of the way home. This was
the house featured in her story. I was godsmat. I
turned to her and said, it's okay, val I live here.
The house you've been telling stories about is my house.
(51:55):
Not long ago, this house caught fire in the middle
of the night and burned to the ground. That is
probably a good thing. I hope whatever spirit or spirits
were there have found peace in the afterlife. Sherry taking
a second to take that in that intense, that's crazy.
(52:18):
That was her house. Yeah, yeah, that's nuts.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
That's really that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah that is that really is took her right back
to her house. That's awesome. What a story, very good story, Sherry,
Thank you for that. Sorry I butchered. She writes really well,
Scott doesn't read so well. No, Scott doesn't read so well,
but she doesn't really get If you.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Could next time submit a single syllable.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Version or just record it, then we could play it.
No awesome story. I really like that. That's that's nuts.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
I was very well done. Very well done.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Guys. We need your stories. They don't have to be
as awesome as Sherry's.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But uh, make Scott read them next time.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Next is your turn. So you can record them, you
can write them, just get them in. We are in
desperate need. We hate to have to wrap it after
Ryan's bonus episode, so get those stories in.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
So we got my bonus episode, which is is a bonus,
and then we got yours, and so there's still there's
actually three more to Spooky season. If you guys, we're
extending Spooky season.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, that's right, and we'll have a couple more bonuses
coming up here soon. Troy. Troy's got a good part
of that. He's going to do.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Get a double partner means well, something special for you guys.
He's got to working on something before the Christmas season.
So we get some stuff in the in the pipeline.
We take time off during the summer of this This
summer obviously stuff happened that wasn't playing time off, but
summer season is when we both get at our busiest,
so we cycle a bit, but we try to make
(53:48):
up for it during the fall and winter with some
extra stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
So but we need you guys to step up. We
need those stories absolutely all right, guys, that's gonna wrap
it this one. We will catch you in the next one.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Let it, guys,
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