Ep. 164 Dead But Trending

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, join us as we delve into our favorite
dark tales and paranormal mysteries.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Venture with us beyond the safe places that exist in daylight.
As we go Beyond the Shadows, true crime, paranormal hauntings, UFOs,
cryptids and unsolved mysteries, conspiracy theories, past lives, reincarnation and
all the like are.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Just a few of the topics that we will tackle.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
If it haunts your fucking dreams, then it will be
on our show.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Do you know what the most in the world is?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
On the shutters where you found me at You can't
see me in the deepest blacks when your heart starbus
and then you see their cracks, all these creepy things
that you why at track Bill, the defense be where
the actions at.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
So this enough you want it, UFOs.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
All the ghosts.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
We got everything that you want. It won't do you
know what the thing in the world is?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hey, everybody, and welcome back to Beyond the Shadows, episode
number one, sixty four.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Welcome back, you shadow bastards. We want to say thank
you for whoever it was that gave us those Spotify
reviews our ratings. We appreciate those and a lot of them. Yeah,
we've gotten one or two Apple Ones over the time overseas.
We appreciate those two. If you guys haven't had a chance,
pop on over give us a rating or review. Helps

(01:35):
so much we appreciate them.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
So first up in the news, we have a popular
trading app in China called Candeo which deals mainly They
deal with a lot of stuff, but it's mainly toys
and collectibles. So we have a mother named Lee Yume
who finds out that her eleven year old daughter has
bought like a shit ton of stuff from the site
without her permission. The company has a seven day return policy,

(02:02):
so the mother requested her refund within like a couple hours,
well within the window. But the company accused the mother
of pretending to be a minor to quote maliciously cancel orders,
maliciously malicious. So they told her that they would refund
her order if she submitted a five minute video of
herself slapping the child, and the video must not be

(02:25):
paused and the slapping sounds must be clearly audible.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
A five minute video.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'm not paraphrasing, these are their words. For five fucking minutes.
I've been out of your kid for five minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
They also require a one thousand word written apology note
from the child containing her signature and fingerprint, and that
note would have to be read aloud by both the
child and both parents.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
You know, all I can say is I'm glad that
this wasn't around when I was a kid. Right, My
mom would have been, like, in a refund on that coach,
I give you ten minutes just in case I didn't
even buy you anything from that to slap the shit
out of you anyway, it's fifteen minutes, give me a
bigger discount.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Doesn't say whether the mom's actually done this yet, but
it turns out the the daughter bought a ton of shit,
but it only adds up to like eighty American dollars,
so that's their policy. Imagine if it was like a
thousand dollars worth of shit, right, Obviously the company's getting
some serious backlash over this. Next up, we have a
couple in Turkey going through a divorce. The woman told

(03:36):
the court that the way her husband had saved her
as a contact in his phone was damaging to her
reputation professionally and to her marriage as well, and the
court agreed that her being in her husband's phone as
tom Beck, which is Turkish for just chubby all capitals,
was definitely reason enough to grant her a divorce and

(03:58):
award her four damage.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
That means I could probably leave my wife really easy.
I'm in her phonus asshole. Imagine I'm in a lot
of people's phone. I'm going on to sewing spray.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That reminds me of Ted when if the phone rang her.
She's calling his phone and it's got like the Darth Vader.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Don't dum Yeah that sounds negative. He's like, no, no, no,
it's from the notebook.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
So we get a Polish potato farmer from the Derbowicica
region of Poland. He stopped to check on his crop
this past week and found it was literally gone. All
of it was gone. Someone had made a fake social
media post saying that the farmer had way too much
crop and he wasn't going to be able to sell it,
so go by and help yourself, and they did unbelievable

(04:48):
literally overnight. The dude was missing one hundred and fifty
tons of potatoes.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
One hundred and fifty tons.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
One hundred and fifty tons wiped it probably wipe him out. Financially.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh my god, that would that's just so harvest.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I don't know what that's worth dollars wise, but it
ain't gonna help that. A lot of those fake social
media posts going around right now, and.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
So yeah, that's insane though, that's malicious more than that
other one. Cow that's so much. Yeah, they had to
be coming by with trucks just loading off. Think there's
so many potato, there's so many French fries.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Lastly, during the October tenth nine am Mass at Saint
Peter's Basilica in the Vatican, and unidentified man climbed the
altar of Confession, dropped his pants and took a leak
right before the conversation.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
It was like the yeah, this is like the big one.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Poplea was there.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Doesn't say whether he was doing the sermon or not,
but he was there. Apparently he was quite shocked. Everybody
was shocked. And then the guy tries to take off Ronnie.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
And the Pope beat the hell out of him.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
He had old too much of the Holy Sacrament. Right,
that's it for the news this week. What do you
get going off for us?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Bud, I am going to do a few stories these
are stories that have been trending sometime in the last
five years. So the name of this one is dead,
but trending nice sounds great.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
We will be right back.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Do you know what the world is?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
All right? Our first story is Dear David. In the
summer of twenty seventeen, Adam Ellis, a New York based cartoonist,
began documenting a chilling series of events that would captivate
the Internet. Through a thread of tweets, photos, and videos,
he chronicled his encounters with the entity he called Dear David,

(06:53):
a ghostly child with a disfigured head who seemed to
haunt his Brooklyn apartment. Adam Ellis was an illustrator best
known for his humorous comics at BuzzFeed. When he posted
his first tweet about the haunting on August seventh, twenty seventeen,
he described a vivid dream a boy no older than

(07:14):
ten sat at the foot of his bed, staring with
unblinking eyes. The child's head was grotesquely misshapen, the left
side crushed as if by a violent accident. Ellis named
him David and shared the dream as an oddity, Expecting
little reaction. His Twitter followers accustomed to his light hearted content,

(07:37):
were intrigued, and the post quickly gained traction, earning thousands
of retweets. And that is it today, Man, You just
put something on there. You never know what's going to
go nuts, you know, absolutely. Days later, a second dream
intensified the unease in it. A girl approached Ellis in
a library, whispering urgently, that's dear David. He's dead and

(08:00):
he's dangerous. You can ask him two questions, but never
a third or he'll get angry. The warning lingered, and Ellis,
though skeptical, felt a growing sense of dread. He tweeted
the update, and followers began urging him to investigate. You know,
they're urging him to ask three fucking questions.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Sure. People on the internet usually really nice. At least
that's been my encounters. The dreams might have been dismissed
as nightmares, but strange events in his apartment soon blurred
the line between sleep and reality. By mid August, Ellis's
two cats, Maxwell and Pepper, started behaving oddly. Every night

(08:43):
around midnight. They would fixate on the front door, hissing
at an unseen presence. And we've talked about this a
million times before. Cats always seemed to know what's what. Yeah,
cats are almost like in between worlds.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I think dogs can both sense tons of shit that
we can't.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's just dogs are fred casts don't really seem to
give too much of a shit. I think they could
kick a ghost as pretty. I love the videos of
cats on the internet where they just swipe a fucking
alligator or shit like it's nothing. Ellis captured this in photos,
their eyes glowing in the flash, and shared them on Twitter.

(09:19):
The images struck a chord, amassing over ten thousand retweets.
He also reported hearing footsteps from the apartment above despite
being on the top floor. One evening, assault shaker toppled
off the shelf with no apparent cause, and a book
slid across his coffee table, stopping abruptly at the edge.

(09:39):
I'm not a ghost guy, he tweeted, but something's off here.
The post blend humor with unease, hooked his audience, who
demanded more updates. And I'm sure you get something like
this going on in your tweet. People want more, They
want to now. By September twenty seventeen, the disturbance grew
more alarming Ellis had a third dream, this time waking

(10:03):
to find David's small, malformed figure looming over him, hands
tightening around his throat. He gasped awake, heart racing, and
tweeted the experience at two a m his words, I
thought it was going to die. The dream made him
take action. He set up a nannycam in his living room,

(10:23):
hoping to capture evidence of what he was experiencing. In
late September, he posted a video showing a rocking chair
in his apartment, swaying gently with no visible cause. The clip,
grainy but unsettling, exploded online, garnering over two million views.

(10:43):
Followers debated whether it was proof of a ghost or
a clever trick. The disturbance become more frequent. Ellis reported
hearing a child's laughter in the dead of night, only
to find his apartment's silence. One morning in October, he
discovered a pile of salt on his kitchen counter, arranged

(11:03):
in a precise circle. He tweeted a photo caption, I
did not do this. I live alone. The image sparked
a flood of responses, with some citing folklore about spirits,
leaving offerings his cast behavior worsened. They began hiding under furniture,
only emerging to stare at the door the door shared

(11:26):
selfies excuse me staring at the door? Where was I?
His unusual wit was replaced by strain. In November twenty seventeen,
Ellis posted one of his most chilling pieces of evidence.
A nanny cam photo captured a blurry child sized figure

(11:50):
in his hallway.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
That's creepy shit.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know you see it. It's even worse when it's
your kid's actual camera, you know what I mean. They
catch them over the crib and stuff like that. That's
what I'm picturing in my head. The shape, with a
distorted head matching his dream's description, stood motionless near the door.
The image went viral, with over fifty thousand retweets and

(12:14):
heated debate on Twitter and Reddit. Believers saw it as
an undeniable proof of a spirit. Skeptics argue it was
a shadow or a manipulated image. Ellis admitted he wasn't sure, tweeting,
I don't know what I saw, but it's freaking me out.
Another video, posted in December showed his front door creaking

(12:34):
open an inch despite being locked. A later clip captured
a green marble rolling across his floor, stopping abruptly, as
if caught by an invisible hand. Each post added to
the saga's momentum, with hashtag Dear David trending globally. By

(12:56):
early twenty eighteen, Ellis was unraveling the constant disturbance whispers,
objects moving, and David's appearance in dreams left him exhausted.
One night in January, he woke up to his bedroom
door slamming shut, the sound echoing through his silent apartment.
He tweeted, I heard a voice saying, Adam, I'm here.

(13:19):
I'm not okay. His cat's once playful now spent days
cowering under the couch. Ellis's phone began glitching, capturing a
distorted selfie. He didn't take, the face resembling David's disfigured form.
He shared the image, which amassed thousands of shares, with
followers urging him to seek help. Ellis researched paranormal lore,

(13:45):
tweeting about mists of child's spirits and at this I
hadn't heard of psychopomps entedies said to guide's souls to
the afterlife. Now are you familiar with that?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Me either. I was going to dive into it, but
I haven't. He tried communicating with David cautiously, asking who
are you and why are you here? But stop short
of a third question. You know the people come on?
What more?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Don't be a bitch?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Haunted by the dreamgirl Dreamgirl's warning. Kate, as he occasionally
referred to the entity, responded with mocking laughter or cryptic
phrases like I'm always watching. The name Kate appeared in
a few tweets, possibly a typo or a shift in
how Ellis perceived the spirits, but it added to the mystery.

(14:40):
The disturbance peaked in spring twenty eighteen. Ellis reported objects falling,
nightly cups, books, even framed drawings crashing to the floor.
His nanny cam caught a faint whisper, unintelligible but chilling
in the empty living room. Followers now numbering over a million,

(15:03):
flooded him with advice salt circles, sage burning, or moving out,
which seems to be the most You know, how good
is the salt circle? You're really gonna do?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
You?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's one I've seen, and I don't know how many
movies work. He just blow it away. It's gone. There's
something to say, age though it seems to be. Ellis
tried some remedies, scattering salt and lighting candles, but tweeted
that they seemed to make Kate angrier. A particularly eerie

(15:36):
incident came in April, when he found his sketchbook open
to a drawing of a child with a crushed head.
When he swore he didn't create, the tweeted image sent
shivers through his audience. By July twenty eighteen, Ellis has
reached his bracing breaking point. The sleepless night's constant fear

(16:00):
was too much. He decided to move out, documenting the
process with photos of pack boxes and his cats and carriers.
I can't stay here anymore, he tweeted. In August, he
posted from his new apartment, a small space across town.
The disturbances stopped, no footsteps, no moving objects, no dreams

(16:20):
of David. His cats returned to their playful cells, lounging
on sunny windowsills. I think he's gone, Ellis tweeted on
August twentieth, twenty eighteen. I hope he's at rest, but
I don't know why he would be. All he did
was leave. Yeah, The final update, accompanied by a photo

(16:40):
of Maxwell's sleep, Maxwell sleeping peacefully, mark the end of
the saga, though Ellis left the door open if he
comes back, I'll let you know. The move brought closure,
but the story lingered. Ellis rarely spoke of Dear David
after twenty eighteen, focusing on his art and new produce.

(17:00):
His Twitter followers, however, kept the tale alive, sharing screenshots
of his old post and speculating about David's origins. Was
he a ghost tied to the building, a child who
died tragically or was it all in Ellis's mind.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
He's just trying to build a hype for a sequel, right.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, that's the thing with this one, Like it's easy
to fake stuff for Twitter and stuff like that. So,
I mean, any of these stories could be his Twitter
followers blew up and stuff. But don't you think if
he was doing it for the publicity, it would have
continued most likely for sure? You know, don't you think
you would have continued to follow on? Oh you followed?
He came with me, I mean, not necessarily, but the

(17:44):
fact that he talked about him for a short amount
of time and then stopped completely gives it a little more.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, it's hard to se credibility is here. I haven't
seen any of the images, but the things you said,
like he posted, like a rocking chair or the marble
or the image I didn't see in the hallway, but
they sound like they're all easily fakeable. You know, rocking chairs.
It doesn't mean he did.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
But most things that you catch of a ghost art
nowadays pretty easily fakable.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, that's just one. You hear a lot. That's the problem.
It's very You could fake that with a string, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
With fishing line.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
I mean there's so many things that you could. The
pictures get all up until now. Still you can tell
when stuff's ai. I mean, shit looks really really good now,
but you can still tell something's off in those pictures
and stuff. So I don't know, interesting one, sure, all right.
Our next story is the Buried Rug, TikTok's viral haunted

(18:45):
backyard mystery. In early October twenty twenty four, Katie Santry,
a thirty four year old content creator from Columbus, Ohio,
turned her everyday backyard project into one of TikTok's most
gripping true crime sagas. What began as a casual video

(19:07):
joking about a haunted house escalated into a full police investigation,
complete with cadaver dogs, homicide detectives, and million of viewers
speculating about a buried body. Documented in real time through
nearly thirty TikTok videos that amassed over one hundred million views.

(19:28):
The story of the buried rug captivated the Internet during
Spooky Season Wow. Though no remains were found, the unresolved
question kept audience hooked. Katie Sandtry typically posted about motherhood, relationships,
and lifestyle topics with a modest following. That changed on

(19:49):
October first, twenty twenty four, when she uploaded her first
video and what would become Ruggate series. In it, she
stood in her sunroom, visibly shaken, explaining a bizarre morning.
Her laptop screen was shattered, desk items were scattered, and
no one in the house. Her boyfriend Brandon, his kids,

(20:13):
or her son claimed responsibility, which means nothing in that
I think my house is haunted and I'm literally shaking,
she said, her voice trembling as she filmed. She revealed
another oddity. While digging fence post holes in her backyard.
Days earlier, she and Brandon had hit something solid about

(20:37):
two feet underground, a rolled up shag rug roughly six
feet long, particularly overgrown by a blood good tree. I
don't know what a blood good tree. Who the fuck
and why the fuck is there a rolled up carpet

(20:58):
buried underground? She asked viewers zooming in on the whole there, right,
that is, you see a rug buried in the ground,
You're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You don't bury it?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Why would you bury a rug? Right? The rug seemed
deliberately placed, too deep for a casual disposal and blocking
their fence installation. She joked it might connect to her haunting,
tying it to her next door neighbor's death on the
day they bought the house in October twenty twenty three.

(21:29):
The neighbor's home had since been boarded up. The video exploded,
racking up over three million views in days. Comments flooded
in dig it up, Call the police. That's a body wrap?
Your ghost is real? True crime enthusiasts drew parallels to
shows like Dateline, speculating the rug concealed human remains, with

(21:52):
the ghost vandalizing her office to draw attention. She initially
was skeptical, I truly did I don't think there's a
dead body. And then she leaned into the mystery pull,
pulling followers dead body, pet burial or junkyard dump. And
you know this is the time, all of a sudden

(22:13):
modest amount of followers. You know, those followers are going
up like crazy. Oh yeah, well, let's lean into this shit.
That's the problem. That's the problem with the fame today.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
You know, for five bucks, everybody ill dig it up right,
generate half a million dollars over night.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
We should try that. We need to come up with
something once. Rug. Yeah again, this barely escaped the last time.
Spurred by her audience, she investigated. She contact a listing agent,
learning that in nineteen sixty seven, Learning that the nineteen

(22:50):
sixty seven built house had once had only one prior
family owner, now in their nineties and assisted living. The
daughter denied burying pets or knowing about the rug. Her
and Brandon tried digging manually, but stopped. The rug was compacted,

(23:11):
roots entangled, and too heavy for two people. On October second,
she called the Columbus Police, feeling insane, asking them to
check a buried rug, but officers visited agreed it was weird,
but say they lacked resources without evidence, suggesting she dig
it herself. This typical cop. I don't know. Sh up,

(23:38):
hope that's not a dead person, let us know. Undeterred,
she planned a live stream dig with friends. Before it started,
homicide detectives called they wanted to send cadaver dogs. That evening,
October third, Santry went live to over one hundred thousand
viewers as two cadaverdogs arrived separately. Could daver dogs and

(24:03):
we get there, both immediately sniff the hole, then sat
the train signal for human remains or blood. She gasped,
crying as she ended this stream out of respect. These
dogs can detect a body buried one hundred years ago,
and that just insane. YEA, their scent is that Unbelievable's

(24:25):
gotta be awful for the dog. You think about everything.
Everywhere you go you walk by a graveyard, like damn.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Imagine those first cops telling her to dig it up herself.
If there's a body down there, I don't know yet.
You get into the how much evidence would be destroyed.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
On their call?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, just dig up the crime scene, really fuck it up,
don't document it.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Nah, we're good, she later explained. She later explained, noting
their ability to distinguish humans from animals scent. Her yard
was taped off, police stayed overnight. TikTok a rup did
Videos of the dog hit seven million views. Theories were everywhere,

(25:06):
cold case victims, placenta burial, bloody evidence from a crime,
from crime elsewhere. Followers urged lawyers, psychics. Some linked it
to Columbus, Columbus's missing persons. She Santri following surge excuse

(25:29):
me her, fuck her following surge to nearly two million followers.
So from a few thousand to few million.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
She's not gonna be able to go back to the
boring shit after that, Right.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Man, I'm gonna have to bury more shit in my yard.
On October fourth, CSI forensic and an excavator arrived. She
live streamed nine officers a tent heavy machinery digging the
two and a half foot deep site. After hours, police
extracted rug pieces and rubber, no bones, nobody samples tested

(26:09):
negative for human and animal remains. The case closed by
twelve thirty pm. No, they didn't find a body. They
found mother effing rug with some rubber. Santria announced live
revealing revealed but baffled praise the lord. I can stay
in my house. The cadaver dogs alerted alert, remained unexplained,

(26:34):
possible trace blood. Police speculated anything observable was absent. Prior
owner Myron Wheel suggests a misburied gardening bag, but that
doesn't make a lot of sense. Santry kept the CSI
the CSI token as a sylvenair joking. The dogs led

(26:54):
a wild goose chase but were cute, though resolve questions persisted.
Why bury the rug? The saga exemplified TikTok's power. Audience
pressure prompted police action. And you think about it, those
places wents showed up if there wasn't millions of people watching.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Make them look bad, and all of a sudden they
spring it act.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, well we're going to dig in. We can get
an excavator. All of a sudden, we do have resources.
It turned her into the main character if fueled true
crime trends with users as armchair detectives, but raised ethics,
exposing her address doxing theories. Media like NBC, Wired, Rolling

(27:38):
Stone covered it as real time true crime, highlighting social
media's role in the investigation. By October twenty twenty five
Ruggit and endures in Reddit threads and clips a spooky
season staple. Santri returned to lifestyle content after this, so

(27:59):
she did. She went back to her regular content.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
She still got that many views.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Guarantee you there's not two million there any one.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Hundred and fourteen.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, I'm sure she kept a lot of them. Yeah,
you know, a lot of people just don't pay attention
after the fact. But yeah, anyways, that's the story of Ruggate.
There's a little strange on what the dogs were hitting on.
I've seen that and things.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
If you think about it, I mean, how old is
the country going back you know, to the indigenous people
and whatever. I mean, there's almost a there's probably a
body in the ground just about everywhere, even by natural causes.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Every time you dig a hole in the ground, they
gotta smell something. Well, we talked about it, like around here,
there's old graveyards every day. Oh yeah, really old graveyard, really.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Old, and there's like twenty twenty people in them, and
they're just on people's property because that's how they did it.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
They're just kind of lost in the woods.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, And you could go into the woods and stumble
across freaking greystones. Yeah, just out in the middle of
the woods.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Power in the woods one day and we stumbled on
one of those really old ones. You know, it's probably
in somebody's backyard once, but it's in the middle of
nowhere now and there's clearly nobody's been there years, no paths,
nobody's been tending to them. But it's there. And then
the stones are early seventeen hundreds. That means an old rabio,
the walking trailer. I walked through in town.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Here, you walk in, you're out a mile into the woods,
and then there's just this graveyard and they keep it up.
Never revolutionary area it is. It's an old one. Yep.
It's just in the middle of the walking path.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
So all right, next stories, got some names. Oh here,
tell me that last name. I tried looking up Cissre.
Say it again, I would say, Cecare.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I don't know that that's.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Greatre, okay. The ghost Boy of Eerie Hall Chris Desair's
college haunting in the mid nineteen eighties. Sunny Jean, I
see here we go.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Geneseo.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
That's the name of the college. Geneseo, a small liberal
arts college in upstate New York became the unlikely setting
for one of the most documented and terrifying college hauntings
in American history. Chris, a promising student athlete and freshman
on a track and Field scholarship, moved into dorm room

(30:18):
C two D one of Erie Hall in the fall
of nineteen eighty four. What began as a typical college experience,
making friends, attending classes, and training for meats quickly descended
into months of unrelenting paranormal terror. Over the course of
three months from February to April nineteen eighty four, Chris

(30:39):
and his roommates endured disembodied voices, physical assaults, moving objects,
and full body apparitions of a desperate, tortured spirit they
came to call Tommy. The events which Chris had chronicled
in memoirs and interviews, accumulated in a famous photograph of

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the entity and a priest blessing the finally that finally
brought peace, revealed in the twenty twenty five by Netflix
documentary documentary docuseries Yeah True Hauntings which I love.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I love that one.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's where I heard of this story first, The story
of the Ghost Boy of Eerie Hall. Chris arrived at
college on September third, nineteen eighty four, dropped off by
his father, veto a science teacher, Chris was eager for independence.
Eerie Hall, a standard old dormitory built in the nineteen sixties,

(31:44):
housed hundreds of freshmens in its corridors. Chris shared C.
Two D one with his roommate Paul, and quickly bonded
with neighbors like Jeff Unger, Craig Norris, and Linda Kolinski,
forming a tight knit group that spent evenings studying, joking,
and exploring campus. The first disturbance appeared in late nineteen

(32:08):
eighty four. Chris began hearing faint whispers his name called
softly through the halls or vents. He dismissed them as
pranks from hallmates or echoes from the building's thin walls.
Erie's Hall reputation, as Erie was already was whispered about.

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As fall turned into winter, the voices grew clearer, more insistent. Chris,
help me sleep became elusive, and he confined in Paul.
Confided in Paul, who initially laughed it off, but soon
noticed Oddity's himself a textbook sliding off a shelf. Doors

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creaking open in the dead of night. By January nineteen
eighty five, the activity escalated. Objects levitated briefly, penns hovered
before falling down chairs, scraping across the floor as if
pushed by invisible hands. Chris kept a journal logging dates,
times and witnesses. His friend Jeff reported hearing the voice

(33:13):
in his adjacent room, describing it as a young boy's
pleads please help me please. The group began calling the
entity Tommy, a neutral name to avoid ridicule, so Chris
later connected it to a deeper historical roots. By February

(33:33):
nineteen eighty five marked the hauntings of Violent Peak. Chris
awoke one night to freezing cold, his breath visible in
the room, despite the radiator cooking alongs never a good signature. Drop,
it's always one of the things. A shadowy figure materialized

(33:55):
at the foot of his bed, a teenage boy, pale
and translation with hollow eyes and outstretched arms. Help me, it,
wra asked, before lunging. Now you don't ask for help
and then just jump on them on fucker, make a
move after you help me. Chris felt, icy fingers claw

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at his throat, leaving red welts that bruised. By morning, Paul,
woken by the struggles, saw only Chris thrashing alone, but
confirmed the temperature drop and the scratches on Chris's neck.
The assaults intensified during showers. Chris endured phantom punches to
his ribs, emerging with unexplained bruises. In the hallway, he

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was shoved against walls, hearing Tommy's desperate cries, Echo, it hurts,
make it stop. Is it Tommy that's beating the hell
out of Chris? Though objects hurled themselves, lamps shattering, books
flying like projectiles, his running time suffered, exhaus and fear

(35:00):
eroded his athletic edge. The entity seemed to target Chris
most viciously, isolating him. Whispers followed him to class Ghostboy.
Classmates turned support into suspicion. He became known as the
Ghostboy Chris more than not Tommy.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Chris withdrew his grade, slipping As paranoia set in, he
wondered if he was losing his mind, and you would
I know, whenever anything's happened around me, The first thing, like,
did that really happen? Did I really see that? You
questioned yourself really quick a pivotal moment. A pivotal moment
came after a campus lecture by renowned paranormal investigators oh Eden,

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Lorraine Warren, and February. Chris, seeking answers, approached Lorraine. Afterwards,
she recoiled from shaking his hand, whispering, I don't want
to know my future. The unnerved him, amplifying the sense
that Tommy's presence was no hallucination. That night, the attacks worsened.

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Chris was pinned to his bed by an unseen force,
gasping for air as the room filled with the scent
of damp earth and blood. Desperate for proof, Chris and
Jeff designed a plan on February fourteenth, nineteen eighty five,
Valentine's Day, Using a polaroid camera. They set it up

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in the hallway outside of C two D one, Jeff
urging Chris to invite Tommy in. Chris hesitated, then called out, Tommy,
if you're real, show yourself. The door swung open, violently,
unlatched by no human hand. In the instant the flash fired,

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a spectral face appeared in the frame, a boy's distorted face,
eyes wide in agony, mouth opened in a silence scream.
The photo, blurry yet unmistakable, captured Tommy, or so they believed,
staring directly at the camera. The image circulated around campus overnight,

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igniting panic. Students reported similar disturbances, whispers and empty stairwells,
cold spots and lounges, eerie hall buzzed with fear. Some
demanded investigations, others fled to other dorms. Chris now dubbed
the ghostboy faced ridicule in isolation, but the photo validated

(37:37):
his torment. Experts later analyzed it. Shadows and double exposures
were ruled out, though skeptics persisted. For Chris, it was
irrefutable Tommy was real, a spirit trapped in anguish Friends
experienced scratches, levitating furniture, furniture, Linder awoke to her bed

(38:01):
shaking violently. Chris's journal, Journal Entries, preserved the later published
details of the whole psychological toll. I don't know how
I wrote that. I see him everywhere. Now He's not evil,
just lost, but he's breaking me. By March, Chris confronted

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Tommy directly during a midnight vigil. Leave me alone. I
can't help you. The room erupted, windows, rattling lights, flickering
before silence fell. The attacks on Chris ceased, but the haunting.
The haunting shifted, plaguing the Hall into a priest a
priest blessing. In mid April nineteen eighty five, research revealed

(38:50):
Tommy's possible origins. During a run, Chris stumbled upon the
grave of Lieutenant Thomas Boyd, a nineteenth century soldier tortured
and killed by Native Americans. Boy's remains discovered by Chris's ancestor,
Adams Hubbly, So the ancestor of Chris is the one

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that discovered. Those remains were hastily buried without proper rights,
trapping his spirit in unrest. Chris connected the dot Tommy
was Boy's echo, a manifestation of historical trauma. Seeking release.
Visiting the grave, Chris whispered apologies for his ancestors oversight.

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Feeling a profound release, the priest's exstorcism, like blessing on
April fifth, nineteen eighty five, sealed the piece. Eerie Hall
went quiet. Chris graduated in nineteen eighty seven. Though scarred,
he became a social studies teacher, channeling the ordeal into writing.

(39:56):
Some of the things that he wrote were Surviving Evidence
in two thousand eight, ten C two d one in
twenty ten, and The Ghost Boy of Eerie Hall on
September twenty twenty five. He appeared in documentaries like Please
Talk with Me two thousand and nine and School Spirits

(40:16):
sci Fi Travel Channel specials. I like the School Spirit ones.
I don't know if you've ever seen those. No, I've
never ever seen those ones. I'm wondering if that's where
I first saw this story. One of them, and Oh,
I think it was Netflix. I've seen. I think I've
seen both Netflix True Haunting, which was October seventh, twenty

(40:37):
twenty five. Maybe I haven't seen the Netflix one now
I think about it.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, that's pretty new.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
That's new. Yeah, I know I've seen it. Must have
been that one. It revived the story in its first
three episodes, Eerie Hall Bunding reenactments Wyatt Dornan as young Chris,
with Chris's interviews. It top charts, amassing millions of views

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in sparking TikTok reaction and Reddit debates. Today, Eerie Hall
stands room C two D one, occupied by oblivious students.
I bet they know now, Yeah, oblivious Chris now in
his fifties believes Tommy Lingers a restless echo of his
colonial violence, skeptic site, sleep paralysis or mass hysteria. But

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for Chris, the scars, physical and emotional are proof enough.
So yeah, that one's been around a few I think
I've seen it a couple different times. But obviously when
I was looking at this, I don't don't. Maybe I
wrote the date wrong.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Twenty five A body getting chucked on the ground all
hastily like that'll tend to do what you would think,
I mean, because of unfinished business or.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
The trauma of the trauma of how he died. So
makes sense, all right. This last one's super recent October
twenty twenty five, during the height of spooky season. By
the way, this one's called the Sickness Haunting of Ridge
Lea Asylum. A routine ghost hunt at the abandoned Ridge

(42:17):
Leah Asylum and Land Lancaster no Land, Yeah, I'm going
with Lancas England turned into a terrifying ordeal for Tony
Ferguson and his team from Paranormal Investigators Northwest or PIONW,
which started as an overnight investigation into the site's notorious hauntings,

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escalated into physical illness that forced one investigator to flee
the premises in distress. Captured on livestream video and shared
across social media, the incident, dubbed the Sickness Haunting, went
viral on x and YouTube, amassing over five million views
in days, blending classic asylum lore with real time horror.

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For Tony and his crew, it was a stark reminder
that some spirits or whatever lurked in these forgotten places
don't just haunt, they harm. Ridge Leah Asylum, originally opened
in eighteen ninety three at the press Witch Asylum originally
as the press Witch Asylum for the Insane, was one

(43:27):
of lanchet There's largest psychiatric institute, sprawling across fifty acres
with imposing Victorian architecture designed to cure mental illness through
isolation and restraint. That's usually how you take care of
mental illness. That's how they thought they took air of mental.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Illness that for a long time.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yep. At his peak in the nineteen fifties, it housed
over three thousand patients. Many suffered from severe conditions exacerbated
by experimental treatment shock therapy without anesthesia, lobotomies and hydrotherapy
that left patients emerged in ice gold baths for hours.

(44:12):
I think I've told you this. I don't remember if
I did or not. But when I first started as
a respiratory therapist, I was a student. I went to
the VA hospital. They were still doing I watched them
do electroshock therapy to a patient. Wow, they were still
and I was talking to the other therapists, and she goes,

(44:35):
to be honest, it actually works pretty well. And they
brought the patient down there and they gave We had
one that we had to give a treatment to when
we stayed down there, because it was more it was
an open bay. I ended up working at the hospital
later on, and I never even knew where it was
because they remodeled a lot of it. I don't know
where it was in the hospital that we went, but
it was like an open bay and they hooked them

(44:57):
up and shocked them. I watched them shock them three times.
And this is in two thousand nine. I mean, they
were doing it at least that recent.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
It's no wonder when you hear the treatments that they
used to do. Why asylums are notice like some of
the most hunted places in the world. Oh absolutely, Yeah,
a lot of people were tortured, tortured. Somebody diet on site.
I mean, there's gonna be so much negative energy in
those places. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
But you notice now that there's no asylums, there's no
place for people with mental illness to go anymore. Yeah,
that we have so much more homeless and shit like that.
That's happening. I mean, there's got to be a happy
medium somewhere because they've shut down all the asylums. But
they were all treated horribly in these places that they
needed some of these that actually did something for mental
health instead of just zapping them or taking out the

(45:43):
front of their.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Brain, locked away and forgotten. For the most part is.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Most of it is just yep, get them off, get
them off streets, put them somewhere we don't have to
look at them.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Reports of abuse were rampant, patients shackled and padded cells,
experimental drugs tested without consent. The high death rates from
neglect and suicide were through the roof. The asylum closed
in nineteen eighty nine. See, I mean the places like
this were going until eighty nine, amidst scandal, Its buildings
left to decay, overgrown with ivy and riddled with asbestos

(46:19):
and mold. Since abandonment, it has become a magnet for
urban explorers and ghost hunters. These are like the craziest
places to go for a ghost hunt. This is what
we need to find one of these asylums. There we
do earning a reputation. Is one of the UK's most
haunted sites. Paranormal groups report EVPs whispering please for help,

(46:43):
full body apparitions of nurses in bloodstained uniforms, and Poultergeiss
activities like slamming doors and thrown objects. Local lore ties
the haunting to the Gray Lady, a former matron who
allegedly pois and patients and tormented souls of children separated

(47:03):
from their mothers during institutionalization. That's the fact too. They
used to uh take kids that were unwanted. They ended
up in these places, kids that didn't have any kind
of mental health issues them. Yeah, they just dumped them. Tony,
a forty two year old electrician turned paranormal investigator with
over a decade of experience, it visited similar sites like

(47:28):
Waverly Hill Sanitoriums for his team. Fellow investigator Sarah Mills,
Mike Hargreaves, and rookie Emma Clark ridgely a promised prime
footage for the YouTube channel pinw Ghosts, So check that out,
which boosts one hundred and was boast one hundred and

(47:48):
fifty thousand subscribers. The hunt was scheduled for October twelfth,
twenty twenty five, a foggy Saturday night. Armed with EMF meters,
spirit boxes, and thermal cameras, group gained access through a
local contact, entering via a boarded upside door at ten pm.
Tony live streamed the set up on YouTube, joking about

(48:10):
the site's bad vibes while Sarah collaborate, I mean calibrated
equipment in the former electrotherapy ward. If we catched a
gray lady, tonight, drinks are on me, Tony quipped. Little
did he know that night would end up with one
of them vomiting uncontrollably and bedridden for days. The team

(48:32):
split up. Initially, Tony and Mike headed to the basement tunnels,
mile long corridors where patients were once isolated for behavior modification.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
You know what that means.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Within minutes, the spirit box came to life, spitting words
leave now, sick. Tony dismissed it as interference, but Mike's
EMF meter spiked to red, indicating an electromatic and electromagnetic
anomalty anomaly. They had feelings like they're being watched. Upstairs,

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Sarah and Emma explored the woman's ward, a large room
with rusted bed frames and graffitied walls. They placed a
rampod and waited. At eleven fifteen pm, the pod illuminated wildly,
accompanied by faint giggles echoing from the vents. Who's there?

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Sarah called her voice steady but uneasy? Uneasy? The response
was a child's whisper. Play with me, Emma. The newcomer shivered,
noting a sudden chill dropped the temperature from fifty eight
degrees fair night to forty two. On the thermal camera,

(49:49):
they captured an EVP on their recorder, A raspy feminine
plea it burns, make it stop? Overlap their own questions.
Reuniting in the main hallway at midnight, the group reviewed footage.
Tony's stream chat exploded, with reviewers spotting anomalies, a shadow

(50:10):
darting behind Sarah in the ward clip, and what looked
like handprints fogging a window. They conducted a seance in
the old operating theater, a room where lobotomies were performed.
Holding hands under a single lantern, Tony invited contact spirits

(50:30):
of ridge. Lea, if you're here, give us a sign.
The response was immediate. A guttural laugh reverberated from the ceiling,
followed by heavy footsteps pacing overhead despite the building being empty.
The team the team's excitement Pete Tony whooped, that's gold,

(50:50):
keep rolling. As the clock struck one a m the
atmosphere shifted, the footsteps grew frantic, circling the group like
a predator. Sarah's K two meter flashed erratically, while Emma's
phone glitched. Its screen flickered with static images of distorted faces.
Then came the laughter, not giggles, but deep mocking cackles

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that seemed to emanate from the every corner. It's the
Gray Lady, Mike whispered, recalling the legend. Tony pushed forward,
leading them to the Children's Isolation Wing, an area known
for poultric ice activity. In the dim corridors, the haunting
intensified doors creaked open, unaided, revealing empty rooms where toys

(51:37):
long abandoned, long abandoned. Dolls and blocks rattled across the floor.
Emma captured a class A E v P. A boy's
voice sobbing, Mamma hurts. Suddenly, Susan yelped as an invisible
force yanked her hair, leaving red welts on her scalp.

(51:57):
Something grabbed me, she grasped, She gasped. Tony rushed over
his light, revealing faint scratches on her arm, as if
clawed by small fingers. The laughter returned closer, now morphing
into whispers. Sick, join us, sick. Tony determined to document,

(52:19):
set up a SLS camera at one five am. It
pinged a stick finger outline of a child darting across
the frame, vanishing into the wall.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
This place sounds fucking intense.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
There's a lot going on, there's a lot of stuff
to catch. Almost the stream the stream chat went wild,
Holy shit, that's real. But triumph turned to terror when
Mike doubled over, clutching his stomach. I feel nauseous, he groaned,

(52:53):
his face paling. Tony chalked it up to nerves or
bad takeout, but Mike vomited. Suddenly, a violent wretch that
splattered the concrete floor. Emma, closest to Mike, began dry heaving,
her eyes watering. It's like something's in the air, she
choked out. Tony's camera caught it all. The team's panic
as footsteps thundered closer, laughter echoing louder. Mike's sweating profusely

(53:21):
insisted on leaving. This isn't right, get me out. They
fled the wing, Tony carrying the gear while supporting Mike
outside under the street lamp. Mike collapsed against the fence,
vomiting again. Paramedics arrived within twenty minutes, diagnosed acute gas
gastroin titus and I can never say, possibly from airborne

(53:44):
contaminants or a sudden allergic reaction, but Mike swore it
felt supernatural. It was like the place was forcing it
out of me, punishing us for coming. The investigation ended
abruptly around two thirty am, the team piling into their
van as sirens wailed. Tony uploaded the raw footage to

(54:07):
YouTube that night. It exploded, hitting one million views in
twenty four hours, with X threads dissecting every frame. Fewer
spotted anomalies. Tony had missed a misty figure in the
SLS clip, resembling a nurse. An EVP layered under the laughter,

(54:29):
saying get out Poisoned. Mike spent three days bedridden, racked
with fever and cramps. Doctors puzzled by the rapid onset.
No food poisoning matched the symptoms, and blood tests showed
elevated white cells, suggesting an inflammatory response. He later described
hallucinations during recovery, visions of patients and white gowns beckoning

(54:54):
him back, their face twisted in agony. Sarah's scratches faded
but left faint scars, and Emma. She quit the team,
citing nightmares of the Children's award. Ridgely, already off limit
to trespassers, saw increased patrols post incident, with locals blaming
ghost sickness, a folk term for the site's reputed ability

(55:19):
to induce illness and intruders. The sickness haunting became twenty
twenty five's breakout paranormal tear, amplified by X's algorithm. During Halloween,
hype clips trending with Ridgely as sickness, spawning TikTok reactions
and Reddit amas. So that's a dead but trending.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
That's a good one though. The place sounds.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Intense, Yeah, no doubt if it wasn't in England.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
It sounds like it has genuinely ghostly activity and then
probably something to monic on top of that. It almost
sounds like the resident ghost were trying to warn of
the resident demon. If that's what If that's what the
cackling laugh is. Yeah, absolutely elater its human spirits that
are I mean, humans can be evil too, so it
sounds like something sounds like some of the spirits would
try to genuinely warn them.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Yeah, that's that's what it sounds like to me too.
But I mean, this is live stream, so it's hard
to It's a lot of it's hard to fake, you know,
any of these stories you put online, especially if they're
getting views like the other stories, you know, you could
easily you know, fake something or whatever. When you're live streaming.
That's a hell of a lot more difficult.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Guy could have been boozing hard off camera, for sure.
So anyways, that was a good story, Bud, nicely done.
All Right, Well that's gonna wrap it for that. We're
gonna head over to the fire pit. We will catch
you over there.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
I guess you know what's HOMEDI is.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
You can't try to fire it all right, guys, we
did get a few fire pits. We appreciate that. Ah,
we need yours. We need your fire pit. Get them
in be on the Shadows two O seven at gmail
dot com, or you can send to us on any

(57:04):
of our socials.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Don't be shy, get them in here.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
We got one coming from Australia. Again nice. We we
got a lot of listeners in Australia. It's like our
number two. The United States is one, and then Australia
I think England, and then.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Those three are real close behind the US and then
other countries.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Oh yeah, tons and tons, but uh yeah, lots from Australia,
lots of listeners. And this is Nick from Australia. So ladies,
this one's for.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
You, oh Shadow people. My name is Nick.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
I'll live in Australia on the south coast of New
South Wales, that a hundred k's south of Sydney. My
story is about a time when I was I have
to says. I was about seven years old and my
parents took me to a family holiday back to what

(58:08):
was in Yugoslavia. Anyway, we were staying at my mom's
family farm at the time, and there was an old
village church that was probably around four or five hundred

(58:30):
years old. For whatever reason, myself, my brother, and cousins
and so forth went up to the church for some
sort of an event. So we were sort of mucking around,
playing a little bit around the outside of the church,
which i had its own little cemetery, and for whatever reason,

(58:53):
my brother, who at the time was probably around nine
or ten years old, decided that he needed to go
to the bathroom and he just found the corner and
decided to urinate in that corner. Anyway, an older cousin
of ours, who was one to always want to make

(59:17):
banter amongst the kids, started saying to my brother, Oh, no,
you've just urinated in a sacred space.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
This is the church.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
I think all the ghosts and zombies going to come
and get you tonight. And me, being seven years of age,
I was I believe that, and I was terrified. Long
story short, but they went along. Nothing really happened to
my brother that night, but two nights later we were

(59:54):
we were sleeping in the family farm homestead, which is
really small house, probably had about three rooms in total,
one of them being a very small bedroom, and the
bedroom had two single beds, and I recall my brother
and I sleeping on one and my mum sleeping on

(01:00:16):
the other, and the room was probably around six foot
by six foot, so I was very small. At some
point that night, I had woken up, and I think
I was woken up either by a sound or just
a presence somehow made me wake up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
But I looked over to the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Door, which was only probably, as I said, maybe four
or five feet away, and there was this old, haggard,
zombie looking.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Lady. It's the best thing I can describe it, but
she was.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Her colors were like her skin was like brown and red.
Her hair had tingers of green as well in it,
and her hair was like all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Look at the.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Stranding, but it was like sticking outwards, like almost like
a giant afro. And she had this grimace on her face,
but her eyes were like black. There were no eyeballs
that I remember, so she looked like half decomposed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
But she she she came in.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
To the room, and the way she moved, she she
also was like stadic, like TV study type, fuzzy to
look at, but she was very silent, and she she
looked at me directly. When she walked in. She did
push The door opened a bit more as she stepped in,

(01:01:57):
as she reached to grab me. And when she was moving,
she was moving like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
In static.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
I don't know how to describe it. She would move
like it was like a steel shot after steel shop
after steel shot. So it was a fluid movement that
was like she was blinking in and out of existence.
As she was moving. She reached over to me, and

(01:02:32):
at that point I jumped from that I was in
across to where my mother was sleeping, which is probably
around two foot difference, but I jumped across, and then
I remember putting my head down for a second and
then looking back and behind me to where the doorway

(01:02:57):
was and the lady was gone.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
But I'll never forget that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
It's probably the only thing par a normal that's happened
to me on now forty six. It's a long time ago,
but I still remember it vividly. Yeah, so I wanted
to share that. Thanks so much for your show. I
really enjoy the news segment plus everything you guys to

(01:03:24):
kick up Chase.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Cheers to you, Nick. That was a good story. Yeah,
that was I love his description about the way she
moves because that's kind of how I vision, you know
what the he said like snapshot after snapshot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Yeah, it's not for sure. Yeah, two things from that
I noticed. First off, his brother is that the dude
the piston on the pope? Did you so?

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Our episode opened with a story about it sacred urinator?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
And then it ends with one And at the end,
did I hear a bird?

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
If it was a bird, it sounded like a train?
Was it? I don't know what it was? Sound like
a subway moving to me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I thought her that was a great story. We appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
I'm gonna steal that expression mucking around. Yeah you just
say fucking around, but I can get away with rocking around.
Great story, we appreciate. Australia always comes true for us.
That lady sounds terrifying too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, absolutely sounds like your girlfriend. Well you think about
how yeah right, a little hotter than my girlfriend. You
think about how much detail he had, Yeah, you know,
it's burned in his memory enough that he he remembered
every detail of her face.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
The fact she opened the doors a little strange usually, right,
I mean you would expect them to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Just if they fly, materialize through.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
But yeah, it's not unheard of. I like details like that. Yeah,
not every entity or whatever you call what is gonna
do the same thing. So like when every story fits
the same mold, that's when you're like, I don't know
about that, but I like small details like that. Yeah,
very good story, and I appreciate great story.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Guys, get yours in Beyond the Shadows to in a
Gmail dot com doesn't have to be scary. Scary is great,
but anything you talk about with your friends around the
fire pit. So that's gonna wrap up for this one.
We will catch you in the next letter. Guys,