Navigating Career Shifts and Property Investments with Demi Patterson

Have you ever considered what it takes to not only change careers but to also inspire and empower a whole community? Demi Patterson, the trailblazing founder of Confident Happy Women, joins us to share her remarkable transformation from leading a fashion business in Athens to igniting a revolution in beauty education in Australia. Through her mentorship and the pursuit of lifelong learning, Demi has become a pivotal figure in guiding young women to achieve their dreams.

Strap in for a heartfelt conversation that weaves through the intricate tapestry of personal growth, the power of solid relationships, and the strategy behind real estate investment. Demi opens up about her international speaking adventures and her best-selling book that offers invaluable advice on choosing life partners and honing communication skills. With a special nod to the emotional rollercoaster of selling a beloved home and the savvy it takes to dive into property development in Crete, this episode is bursting with insights for anyone looking to grow their personal and professional life.

We wrap up with stories that celebrate the joy of life's unexpected turns, whether they be in career paths, properties, or relationships. Demi's journey is a testament to the beauty of embracing change and the wisdom of starting small in real estate to ultimately build lasting success. So, join us as we raise our glasses to the unforeseeable future, and don't forget to share your thoughts for our next episodes – your engagement makes every adventure we share that much more special.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Beyond the Signboard, where you get the
opportunity to learn all thereis to know about your real
estate journey fromprofessionals who are passionate
about property.
I'm Amy Bennett, your host, andI look forward to providing you
with education, inspiration anda behind-the-scenes look at the
world of real estate.
Well, let's start with a dance,demi, because why not?

(00:31):
That music's probably goteveryone bopping along.
I am so delighted to have avery special guest who has flown
a long way to be here, thebeautiful Demi Patterson Welcome
.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thank you so much for having me.
Honestly, it's worth the26-hour flight, the lost baggage
yeah, the lost baggage to behere.
It's seriously an honour and aprivilege to be on your podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Oh, I am so excited for us to share a conversation
before we get started and wehave a beautiful friendship
which has developed over anumber of years.
But for a little bit ofbackground, demi is an
incredible motivational keynotespeaker with her business
Confident Happy Women.
She inspires every day, in fact.

(01:21):
You know we just spoke recentlyabout how many people enjoy
your social media snippets andinspiration and you do certainly
, even just with those posts,inspire so many people and they
look for it.
In addition to that, demi isshe was a former founder of Demi
International, which we willhear a lot about an incredible

(01:43):
trailblazer in every industry.
She's ever been a formidable,powerful woman and a recent
author of the One Meeting andChoosing your Ideal Partner,
which I'm so excited.
But look, so many other thingsin between those careers.
But, yeah, incredibly honouredto have you here.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh, thanks so much.
That's an introduction and ahalf, so I'm going to steal that
so.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I can use it.
You can Thanks so much, oh, mypleasure, and look, I let.
We can sort of chat back to howwe really got to know each
other.
And it was with another hatactually, which was with your
cooking school.
Oh, really, really, yeah.
So when I was at the Chamber ofCommerce, I certainly had
always, you know, known to meinternational when I was here

(02:30):
growing up on the Sunshine Coast, but when you had your cooking
school, so you are a phenomenalchef, the best seafood chowder
on the planet.
Oh great, but so many things toyou, which is why I'm so excited
and honoured for you to be aguest.
So let's have a little tripdown memory lane, all right,

(02:51):
let's hear your journey, becausethere is, you know, some really
incredible key.
You know lessons and learningsfor the listeners, sure, sure.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, look to think that I've mostly always worked
with women.
You know my entire life fromwhen I was very young, because
my mum was in fashion and inAthens we had our own boutique,
we had our own textiles factoryand at such a young age I was

(03:20):
left in charge of seeing whatthe women were doing, making
sure they were working.
Was left in charge of seeingwhat the women were doing,
making sure they were working,and instead of making sure they
were working, I found that I wasjust making sure that they were
happy.
Amazing, as much as a littlechild can do, yeah, incredible.
And I saw from that young agewhat a joy, what joy that gave

(03:45):
me.
And then fast forward to mehaving Demi International.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
So that was you arriving in Australia.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
No, no, no, no.
I arrived in Australia when Iwas only seven years old.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, I know, that was a big shift, wasn't it for
you.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, it really was, because when I came to Australia
I didn't know the language.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Just so incredible to even fathom what that was like
Starting school one, when youdon't know the language.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Two, when you look so different to all the other.
You know blue-eyed,white-skinned, freckly children
to me.
And it didn't help that my mummade me feta and salami
sandwiches.
You know, instead of peanutbutter, all I wanted was a
peanut butter sandwich from thetuck shop.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I, literally I always think of that same old
boy, you know where?
He's got, yeah, beautiful foodfor lunch.
That's just so different, isn'tit?
Yeah, yeah, Vegemite sandwich,yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
So I actually got into cosmetics in my very, very
early 20s because I already hadthe skin therapy qualification
and in my cosmetic journey asyou know using your word is I

(05:03):
learnt that I was a really goodtrainer and a really good
educator.
So then I went and got myqualification as a trainer and
assessor and, you know, kept mystudies up to this day.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, you're really passionate, aren't you, about
continual learning.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, and you know, now I can literally go into any
workplace and do their assessingof all their policies and
procedures.
So, yeah, I love it.
I just love learning andbecause I love learning, I love
teaching.
And what a better way toinfluence young women but to

(05:45):
open your own college.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, it was just amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
The audacity.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right, tell us about it, because it was.
You know you were a pioneer,you know with what you did.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
So chat through.
For those that don't know thestory, look, there weren't as
many really good, say, beautycolleges in Brisbane.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
What were?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
people studying through TAFE, or yeah.
So what happened is a lot ofthem were doing courses from
modelling academies.
Sure, so what I did was I wrotea course, went to a modelling
academy and said I want to teachthis course.
They said that's a phenomenalidea.
Let's have your paperwork andyou know we'll teach it.

(06:29):
I said, no, I want to teachthis course.
I wrote this course, I own itand, by the way, I still own it.
Yes, and you know, I think Ican do it through your modelling
academy.
And that's how it started.
Okay, so then, when I moved tothe Sunshine Coast, I did the

(06:51):
same thing.
I approached a modelling agencyand I taught at a modelling
agency here on the SunshineCoast, in Maroochydore and up in
Noosa.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So that's how I started.
So that's how I started, and Icould see that there was some
like what they call beautyschools.
Yes, but from having treatmentsat salons, I thought I don't
know what these people arelearning, yes, but it's not good

(07:21):
, you know, and I just thoughtI'm going to open my own college
.
Yes, now think about this for amoment.
I had been a single parent.
My kids had, you know, grown upbecause I had them so young too
.
They'd grown up, started theirown lives, but I just took the

(07:43):
equity that I had in my house.
Yeah, To me equity is the wordright, yeah.
So I took the equity of myhouse, took out a massive loan
and opened my own college.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Just so unheard of, isn't it?
I mean honestly.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And someone said to me what do you think you're
doing?
There are six other beautyschools here.
How do you think you cancompete with them?
And I'm like, well, I've seenwhat the other six beauty
schools are doing and I want todo it my way.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
And it allowed your clients students.
They would receive, I guess, amore vast qualification, did
they as well?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah.
Look first of all, all theother beauty schools offered a
course that went for a year.
But some people didn't want todo a course that went for a year
.
Some people wanted to open aBrazilian waxing salon, which
was a big thing in the late 90s,especially early 2000s.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Especially in a beach-going area like the
Sunshine Coast.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
So why would they want to do a whole year's
qualification?
Yep.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
So you could specialise could they Ah.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Amazing so what I did was I started writing courses
that were specialised in everyarea and teaching them
separately.
However, my vision was I'm notone that imitates what other
people do.
I never look up their websiteto see what they do.
I have my own path and my ownset of ethics that I live by, so

(09:26):
I never set out to be different.
I just set out to do what Ifelt was right by my students
and by what will end up becomingis their clients.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
So you were encouraging them to, I guess,
have the fundamentals not justof providing a great service,
but also for business as well.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Absolutely.
Yeah, amazing.
That was a big thing, becausewhether your student wanted to
have their own day spa orwhether they wanted to become a
make-up artist, you see salonsopening one minute and closing
the next, like most businesses,of course, absolutely.
So.
I wanted them to have thelongevity, so of course I was

(10:13):
teaching them business, becauseI used to teach business.
I used to teach the diploma ofbusiness, the advanced diploma
of business, the diploma ofmanagement, so all that you know
was coupled in with DemiInternational.
But the biggest thing, you knowwas I wanted to be the example

(10:34):
and the mentor that these womenreally needed.
So, we wouldn't compromise onquality of training.
I wasn't going to compromise onquality of skincare that we use
what the students used topractice with.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
And I have had a number of visits with students
there.
It's definitely a must do to betreated and and just to help
them feel comfortable with theprocess.
I've always loved, you know,going there.
I had a friend that wasstudying beauty therapy and had
a number of facials and massages.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's such a treat.
I really miss that aspect of it.
Having a massage every week wasjust the bomb.
So there were six when Istarted.
Eleven years later, when Istarted, I was doing over 70
hours a week, you know, to buildmy business.

(11:29):
Incredible, because it's hardwork, yes.
And then, by the time I sold,11 years later, I wanted to
leave a legacy and I was thelast man standing.
There were no other beautyschools because the people that
wanted to undercut me in pricehad gone broke.
The people that had thoughtthat it was just easy money and

(11:53):
they would give substandardtraining ended up being shut
down by the government becausethey didn't pass their
accreditation.
Last man standing.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, last woman standing.
Yeah, last woman standing.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Exactly, that's even better yeah absolutely, and of
course, now I think there's sixof them, yeah, you know.
So I set out to leave a legacyIncredible.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
And.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I've done that.
So yeah, I'm so happy.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
You've honestly, as I said, you've literally blazed
through so many industries,which is amazing.
Chat us through what life islike now, with your keynote
speaking, and then we'll get tothe book, because I have a
special spot in my heart for thebook.
Oh, I'm glad.
Yeah, let's chat about yourrole and how you can inspire

(12:41):
women in your current role.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, can inspire inspire women in your current
role.
Okay, with my current role, Iguess it's no surprise that I
mostly speak to women and withwomen, because that's been my
whole career, you know, is builtbuilding women up.
So where, while I was livinghere full-time, I had one-on-one
clients yes, and they wereactually referred to me by a

(13:06):
psychologist and where I'm not apsychologist or a psychiatrist,
what I am is a confidencebuilder, a success strategist.
So where I was a successstrategist in business, I've
taken those success strategiesbecause success is success right
and what's more important thanbeing successful in your own

(13:30):
personal life and in yourrelationships?
So I took that and I got knownas the person that can take
someone that feels broken andbuild their self-esteem and
build the respect that they havein themselves and, honestly, I

(13:54):
just feel so privileged to beable to do that.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's incredible yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
So that's what I was doing here before I moved.
Yeah, one of the big reasonsfor the move other than the fact
that we live in an amazinglocation in Crete was most of my
professional keynote speakingassignments have been overseas.
So they're in the US, they'rein the UK, they're in Europe and

(14:22):
it's a very quick plane tripfor me.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I know Did you say to me that you were recently in
Spain?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yes, it's only a few hours on the plane.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, it's not 26 hours to come on a podcast,
exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, so you know, you have a cup of coffee and a
biscuit and you're there.
Yeah, it's amazing so yeah,look, it's really nice to be
appreciated and to be constantlyasked, and the more of these
speaking engagements I do, themore involved I am in women's

(14:54):
issues.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
And because I always will be a champion of women, I
get really involved.
So I get in the reeds with youknow, showing the world that
they can't treat women the waysome people decide that it's
okay to treat women.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
It takes such courage andstrength and you know it's not.
A similar thread that weavesits way through a number of
these conversations is obviously, you know, pushing through
glass ceilings.
You know, I know that therewould be a myriad of stories
that you could share about.
You know things that you'veachieved, but I think what

(15:37):
you've been able to do is nowmoving away from a one-on-one
interaction with your client.
It's now expanded with yourkeynote and now with
relationship advice with the oneI was absolutely honoured to
emcee your book launch last year.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
You did such an amazing job.
Honestly, I just felt so happythat I had somebody that I can
put in charge of one of the mostspecial things in my life, and
you did such an amazing job, soI can't thank you enough.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh, my pleasure.
It was a little bit nervewracking, but always say yes to
helping friends, which is mostimportant.
The book is absolutely goinggangbusters.
I know you've recorded it as anaudio book as well.
I literally had my pinkhighlighter out taking notes
with regards to all of theadvice that you recommended.

(16:33):
Chat to us a little bit aboutthe book before we get into how
we kind of got to work togetherand your journey with me.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know, over decades I have been asked the
same questions from young womenand older women in relation to
relationships and you know I'vehad some not so fantastic
relationships in the past myself.
And as you get older youcertainly realise that there are

(17:09):
some fundamental things thatyou can do to have an amazing
relationship, and that's why thebook isn't just called the One.
It's how to Meet and Choose, andthe choosing is super important
your ideal partner.
And just about every chapter inthe book, including how to get

(17:32):
that ring, is from questionsthat people have directly asked
me.
So when I decided to write thebook, it was really to.
I can't be face-to to face withevery person now, that's right,
but the book is a way to getthese actual practical skills

(17:53):
and knowledge and confidence inpeople's ability to choose the
right person by giving them thebook, and so it's an
international thing, like I'vejust won an international award
them the book, and so it's aninternational thing, like I've
just won an international awardfor the book.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Oh, I have no doubt.
Like I said, it was an absolutegame changer and everyone that
has read it has said the same.
What I love I guess you knowprobably my key take out is that
it's really about how you areresponsible yourself.
So you know, so often there's ablame game isn't there in
relationships, but really whatyou're doing is, again, it's an
empowerment of self.

(18:29):
But also, I guess you know alittle peek behind, you know
probably, some private sessionsyou've had and questions that
are repeatedly asked and kind ofsimilar to what we do with the
podcast, which is aboutdispelling the myths of real
estate and, I guess, giving abit of an insight.
The book's the same in thatpremise.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, 100%.
It is because it's okay to readall these things like you do on
social media, okay, but thedoing is really hard and I think
we are living in a time wherewe have so much bombardment of
information.
But do you know what?

(19:07):
We're not getting Practicalskills and practical things that
we can do and say so, when hesays this to me or when he
behaves in this manner, what doI do?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, manner what do I do?
Yeah, that's right.
See, yeah, so the book actuallygives you practical things.

(19:28):
When she says this, you respondwith you know?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
not react, you respond with this?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, absolutely.
Have you thought about Mm-hmm?
Yeah, and key words In all theconferences I go to worldwide,
when the attendees have anopportunity to ask me questions.
They're the questions that Iget asked is what wording should
I use to get my point across,to get her to listen to me, to

(20:00):
get him to listen to me?
And that's what was missing.
I think that's what was missing.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I think that's a big thing that you've recently said
as well.
It's about being heard, isn'tit?
That ultimately, you knowthat's probably the biggest aha
moment is just that you knowpeople in a relationship, and
that's not just you know amarriage, that's all sorts of
relationships, businessinteractions as well, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
That's why I said what applies to a successful
business also applies to asuccessful relationship, and
it's like people haven't madethe connection before, you know,
because again, we're so keen tobe heard that we're not
actually listening.
So so true, because everyonewants to talk, but while they're

(20:45):
supposed to be listening,sometimes they're just thinking
about what they're going to sayas soon as there's a gap.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
It's a good life lesson, isn't it?
I know that's certainlysomething I think with age and
time you kind of realise that oryou know, not jumping in or
thinking ahead.
And I always, you know, find itfunny with the podcast because,
like, this isn't pre-rehearsed.
You know, we're certainly we'vehad a bit of a conversation
about the flow, but really it isjust a conversation amongst two
friends and so you kind of just, you know, let it go as it is

(21:16):
and, yeah, always enjoyable, but, yes, I'm very guilty of that,
probably more so in the hostingduty of thinking, oh, what's?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
next.
I think that's forgiven.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Good, Well, let's have a chat about, I guess, a
real estate related connectionto us, and really this is about
allowing the listeners just tokind of, I guess, journey
through the process in engagingan agent and what that
experience is like, Because Idid have the honour and the

(21:48):
utmost appreciation for youentrusting me with my very first
sale in real estate and we'vethen journeyed on to have an
additional transaction together.
So for me, when I thought aboutwho I would invite to share, I
guess, their journey engaging meas an agent, certainly it
wasn't to you know, big notemyself or for any accolade, but

(22:12):
more so just to kind of, youknow, explain our journey
together and what that lookedlike.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
From our first interaction all those years ago,
I actually started followingyou on socials and I got to
actually see your personalityand your work ethic Okay, just
through socials.
And I was so blown away because, unlike a lot of what we see on

(22:48):
socials, is this facade of whatthings really?
Are you always show your trueself and sometimes you always
sort of say look, what's thenorm.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Absolutely.
I'm tired today.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, and it's just your personality and how dynamic
you are.
So when I saw that you weregoing to enter into the real
estate realm, I do like to bethe first.
I like it, I spot the trend,and that's when I contacted you

(23:24):
and I said, look, I want you tosell my house.
Now, my house isn't just someinvestment, it's the house that
I had purchased by myself when Iowned Demi International, and
it was like my first mortgage asa single person, absolutely,

(23:45):
and I had that and I just lovedit, you know.
So it was like I'm giving youmy baby.
Now you really need to takecare of it.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
But you know, there was never, ever, and I don't
think I've even told you this,but there was never even a
question that I would getsomebody else, because I have
acquaintances that are realestate agents.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
And to take a risk as well too.
I didn't see it as a risk.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I honestly didn't see it as a risk.
I knew that you would work hardand that you would get me a
good result Guess what I never,ever thought you would work as
hard or get such a phenomenalresult.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
We had such a journey with that property.
I was just thinking but it wasso quick.
We don't muck around, Wham bam,thank you, ma'am, but you know,
but it was all measured, wasn'tit?
So you were phenomenal.
You took on recommendations,the property had been leased and
so, obviously, that care andmaintenance that you yourself
would have as a homeowner haddone.

(24:56):
So we had a really amazing.
I remember door knocking theneighbours, giving them a coffee
card and saying, hey, tomorrowand the next couple of days it's
going to be a bit noisy.
We had the pressure washer.
I remember he was in the pool.
We had lights changed, paintingTrees cut down.
Yeah, it was literally, and Iguess you know that's my sort of

(25:16):
project management.
You know hat on.
But the trust in that processand I think that was.
You know I started this careerand you know, obviously, I've
been in real estate for fiveyears prior.
But I started this journey as asales agent, having learnt from
everyone else but also knowingI didn't want to cut corners
that there would never be a timewhere you as a client wouldn't

(25:38):
miss the opportunity to get apremium price and if that meant
that I had to courageously sayhey, you know what.
I think the property needs X, yand Z.
You know we had some styling.
I remember we moved plants,didn't we?
We had birds of paradise in thebackseat of the car.
But what we created was abeautiful sanctuary.
So, in the absence of somebodyliving in the property, we had a

(26:00):
wellness yoga room.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Do you remember?
I do, yeah, I do.
In fact, I was looking throughthose photos just recently
because you know when I hadpurchased that house all those
years ago, never did I thinkthat I would get the price that
you know you were able to getfor us ever Did I think that?

(26:23):
Yeah, we wouldn know you wereable to get for us.
Ever Did I think that?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, we wouldn't have ever been able to predict
what has happened and transpiredwithin our industry and also
here on the coast.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
But you know, like when I'm giving couples advice
or single women advice as far astheir finances go, I always say
why do you think real estate iscalled real?
Because it's the only thingthat's real.
Bricks and mortar, that'swhat's real.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I always remember you saying that to me it sticks?
It sure does, and you know ithas certainly helped with your
journey.
You know to now where you areand we'll chat through that.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Look, will you know the love of my life.
He was trying to teach andeducate our granddaughter the
other day.
She's going to be 18 soon andwe're talking to her about
saving for a deposit for a house.
Yeah, absolutely.
So we sat her down and startedexplaining to her what equity is

(27:24):
.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Because it's not taught.
Is it in schools?
I mean life skills, things likethat?
No, without parents,grandparents that care.
I mean there's a super saverscheme that is so
undersubscribed, that'savailable, especially for, you
know, teenagers first homebuyers, where available,
especially for, you know,teenagers first home buyers,

(27:46):
where you know they get so muchsupport.
But it's just that lack ofeducation or people being
pointed in the right directionas well.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, and really she was blown away, and we've had
this conversation with 20 and 30something year olds.
Sure, she was blown away thatwe could take the equity from
one place without having $1 asdeposit, because there was
equity, we could buy our nextplace.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
It's a great story to share.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
And then the next place.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Exactly, absolutely.
But you're exactly right.
I mean, even you know it soundsridiculous, doesn't it that you
know I have now been in theindustry for seven years.
I didn't probably think aboutthat myself until we were in a
situation two years ago where wedid that, and you know it's
about surrounding yourself withpeople that are smarter than you
, that have expertise, that areprofessionals, and you know what

(28:36):
it doesn't I mean.
Certainly you know.
If you know, my mum, I knowtried forever.
I mean she gave me the BarefootInvestor as a Christmas present
after about 10 years of talkingabout it, and I think that you
know it does stick and it's whenthe time's right.
But gosh, you know, don't youthink?
I mean you did, but I wish Icould go back 10 years ago and,
go God, I wish I had have gotinto property or whatever that

(28:57):
looks like in life, or ask thequestions about money.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
You know I have to credit my mum for the fact that
you know she wasn't exactlyaround a lot, but when she was
she always said make sure thatyou get your own home.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Make sure you get your own home.
If you do nothing else, getyour own home.
And I'm so glad she did becauseyou know, back when I used to
rent, when I was you know what,18, 19, the landlord could just
come in anytime they want.
I know, yeah, they could justknock on the door and just

(29:38):
demand to come in, and you knowthat happened to me a few times
when I was on my own and I wasso scared Of course, but there
were so many other things and Imade sure that I could, and I
really fought hard to get myfirst home when I was 21.

(29:59):
That was my goal.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Like.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I've always been a big, you know, goal-orientated
person and I was determined whenI was 21 I would have my own
home and I did.
But it was a fight.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well, look, I have no doubt about that.
But knowing you as a person andthe tenacity and courage that
you have, but also you know it'ssuch a common theme that we
have over.
You know when I have guests on,you know success isn't easy.
You know like it is insanelyhard work and I think you know
we've always had that mutualrespect and recognize that in

(30:34):
each other and I think if that'sin your DNA, you know, you
understand that.
You know when you scratchbeneath the surface we talk
about it all the time you knowthe life that people have on
social media versus.
You know what the reality isand I guess that's where you
know that being able to kind ofbe warts and all, and I think
it's very much so that'spersonally and professionally

(30:54):
for me.
So you know that's why you knowthe whole idea of the podcast
was around.
That is just showing that it'snot just putting a signboard up.
As you know, I mean we've nowcelebrated two sold stickers on
signboards.
You know, was it a piece ofcake?
Was it putting a sticker up?
Absolutely not.
But you know there's also thatrespect for the client.

(31:15):
But it would have been the samewith you getting your first
mortgage.
You know.
To get to those you know, bigresults takes leaps of faith,
hard work, determination,sleepless nights.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
And, as far as that goes, what I, you know, I want
to share with people thathaven't done it is it's not easy
.
No one is saying that it's easyyou know and you have to fight.
And sometimes you have to fighthard, Like when we found what

(31:48):
we ended up calling Beach Shackon Oceanic, on Oceanic Drive
even though we could certainlyfacilitate the mortgage because
I work for myself.
The bank wanted a pay slip.
Yeah, I work for myself, Idon't have a pay slip.
That's right, there's all thosechallenges.

(32:10):
I don't know an entrepreneurthat has a pay slip, yeah, and
so they kept saying no, yeah.
You know how many no's we got11.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I love that you know the number of no's.
Oh so help someone that says noto you.
But guess what?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, when I was training my sales people and my
management people, my saying wasevery no brings me closer to a
yes.
I love it Absolutely.
Every no brings me closer to ayes and Will talk about
tenacious.
He was like well, what else doyou need?
Yes, well, what else do youneed?
Oh, no, but you don't have this.
But what else do you need?
What else can I get?

(32:44):
And every day he was on thecomputer.
Everything that the banks askedfor.
He was there, he was gettingbang, bang and in the end I
really think they just got sickof us Give them the money, All
right, just give them the moneyyou know, and I'm so glad
because that property will setus up for our future.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, it's amazing.
And you were able to forecastand make decisions based, you
know, on property decisions forthe future and what that looks
like.
So we had our first transactiontogether, which was wonderful
more than a transaction, youknow.
Obviously that was a gift to beable to represent you in the
sale of such a beautiful space.

(33:26):
I know one thing, thinking backto that as well it was the
birth of the virtual styling,the printed virtual styling on
the easel.
Yes, so that that's like geniusit was.
So it's genius it was.
It was so funny.
Um, before we had your sunsetsneak peek, I know my husband
and a team member's partner wereferociously trying to put

(33:47):
together the easel.
And for those that arelistening, essentially when we
have a vacant property, weengage a local business, box
Brownie, to virtually style ahome, and so people could
visualize what a home looks likewith furniture.
Obviously, with a vacant space,people like you and I can

(34:09):
probably envisage how we wouldhave furniture.
But then what we do is we takethat a step further, because
feedback always from the marketwas it's really disappointing to
see that online and then see anempty shell.
So we had that printed and wehad it positioned in the living
room so just to really give thatutilisation.
But that was wonderful to beable to.
Yeah, you really trusted thoseideas.
We had a sunset sneak peek, Iremember.

(34:30):
We interviewed all of the teamthat came through with their
feedback and, like you said, Imean that was, you know, a very,
I guess, a swift process ingetting you, you know, a special
result that allowed you to moveforward.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, yeah, and so I didn't trust you once, we
trusted you twice, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
And with your home and I mean obviously Santorini
was equally had played a reallybig part in your journey.
But then, you know, lifechanged for you, didn't it?
Plans changed?
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know life changed foryou, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Plans changed?
Yeah, absolutely.
We decided that we wanted tospend at least half the year in
Crete.
One for the lifestyle, theMediterranean lifestyle, the
weather.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
You don't need to sell it to anyone, girlfriend.
The weather and you don't needto sell it to anyone girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
And the fact that it was easier for me to go to my
keynote speaking events you knowand all my networking events.
So when we went over and found aplace that just blew our mind,

(35:44):
it was a case of Will looked atme almost like we're going to
have to get a bigger boatBecause I said, oh honey, can we
afford this?
And what?
He didn't tell me on thatparticular day because he just
said, oh, we'll work it out.
I love that.
I love a man that says we'llwork it out.
Such a team Don't say no towomen.

(36:06):
They don't like it.
And so then when we could sitdown and talk, he said look, I
know we've just spent a fortunedoing up Grand Parade.
Yeah, but if we want that,we're going to have to give up
that.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I said, okay, and literally like literally, you
had just waited how many monthsfor that incredible oven.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, I waited six months for the oven that I chose
for Grand Parade, to come fromthe UK.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, because we were kind of.
It was kind of post-COVID andyeah, I mean, look that home
still people speak about it.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Look, I designed the front gate, so there isn't a
front gate like it.
Yes, I designed the kitchenwith Italian tiles.
Yeah, I just love that home.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
We'll talk about the neon sign we were just talking
about that recently that youcould see from space.
You can see it from space, I'msure Mine too.
I've got pink on it mine.
Yeah, you can see it from space.
I'm sure Mine too.
I've got a pink one at my house.
Such an iconic and beautifulbuild and allowed you the
opportunity.
I remember when you called me,it was a shock, wasn't it,
because it wasn't anything thatany of us forecasted, but what

(37:21):
an amazing opportunity.
It was winter, we had thefireplace on.
Oh, I just remember the sunsetsneak peek at that property.
I felt like all of Kiwana.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Island was there Like it was.
It was a party without you init.
Yeah, I was so proud of itbecause I've always had a
penchant for interior design andI think I'm pretty good at it.
I agree.
So, yeah, it was.
It was hard to let that housego as well, because I really do
get attached, but I had justfinished the design and we'd

(37:52):
just finished it, you know.
But it was really weighing upwhat part of our life's journey
we were at and what we wanted toachieve next, and it wasn't
like we were leaving nothingbehind, of course.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And I think also, too , it's a moment in time, isn't
it?
I mean, you know, coming up to,is it nearly 10 years ago that
Will came into your life?
Yeah, and you know again.
You think you look back andthink you know what that life
was and what it is now.
And life is so precious, isn'tit to enjoy?
And you know what that life wasand what it is now, and life is
so precious, isn't it to enjoy?
And you know your trajectory,changes in life, and I think

(38:32):
you're one to really adapt andflow.
You know very universe-led,aren't you Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Talk about.
I met my ideal partner when Iwas put on the wrong island in
Fiji.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
It's so funny.
Who does that happen to?
And tell us about that, becauseI love that story, were you
happy about that.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Being on the wrong island.
No, I couldn't imagine.
As I say, in my book because Ihave a chapter called my
Hallmark Movie, which I knowthey'll make a movie out of how
we met and how the whole thingcame about.
But no, I had trusted a realestate agent to book me on one
island, paid for it and I saidlook, I want to be in a

(39:20):
five-star resort drinkingcocktails all day long and have
a spa attached that I can havemassages and I painted the
picture.
She booked me the ideallocation.
Then she went on holidays.
Just before I was due to go,she gave my booking over to
another lady.
The other lady rushed throughit.

(39:41):
She'd got me mixed up withsomebody else, oh dear.
That basically booked somethingjust up a little bit from
backpackers.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Just up.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I don't know if there is so well the fact that the
shower was a bucket that youpull with a cord sort of gives
it away.
You're painting a picture, yes,so yeah, for anyone that has
read that or they, actuallythere's a magazine here in
Australia called that's Lifemagazine.
They print like millions ofcopies.

(40:13):
Yeah, They've done a two-pagespread on us on that story.
Yeah, I just think that'samazing.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well meant to be, isn't it?
Yeah, and look.
A blessing in disguise.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Sometimes your future lies on the path that you take
to avoid it.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, look, it's incredible, isn't it?
And we just sort of shared astory off air as well before
about so often what we think isthe right move or the right
direction is actually, you know,it's not and it's trusting in
that process and you know,allowing.
You know that's a lot of whatwe do in real estate every day
is making sure that the processis correct, but also, yeah, just

(40:51):
trusting and ensuring thateverything's you know done
correctly gets you to wear.
But there's hiccups in life,isn't there?
There's wrong trips booked, oryou know we're just saying to
you luggage missing, and youknow you've had a few weeks
without beautiful clothes andthings like that, but you know
you're here safe and that's whatyou kind of focus on, doesn't?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
it, and it was a really good opportunity for me
to buy more clothes and shoes.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Hey, I like that.
It's beautiful.
You did visit the ClarenceCounter, am I right?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Of course, your favourite, of course.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, oh look, I just am so grateful that you're back
here and I just love all thedifferent hats that you wear.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
If you weren't doing, you know those various roles.
What would be your sort ofideal dream career?
You know, I do feel like I'mliving my dream career now.
If I wasn't doing that, I thinkI would still be in the
teaching space, mentoring space,because nothing gives me more
fulfillment than showing othersthey can be so much more than

(42:02):
they ever dreamt of, they canhave so much more happiness than
they ever thought was possible.
And I'm not just a speaker.
I have lived it.
I have lived the really badtimes and I know how to rise.
And that's what women can do isthey can rise.

(42:24):
So if I wasn't working justwith women every day, I would
probably be doing what I used todo.
And with better businessdevelopment is success strategy
in moving people's business fromgo to wow.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I love that.
That's awesome.
And property anything excitingon the horizon.
And property anything excitingon the horizon.
The property in Crete's goingwell.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
It's doing fantastic.
We've just finished putting ina pool.
Amazing.
Now, crete being an island,nothing happens overnight.
Tell us about the pool places.
So it's been, especiallybecause we have a 14th century
ruin on our property and justimagine what that ruin has seen,

(43:13):
because that's where peopleused to go and hide from enemy
attack during the war and it'son our property.
So of course we have to getarchaeological permission to do
anything.
But also, just as in Australia,in Crete it's hard to get
workers, of course.
So it's been an 18-monthprocess from start to finish.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
And that's also shipping material in as well.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
I'm not sure about the material.
For instance, we are so used to.
If anyone has any tradiefriends or has seen tradies,
they put things up very quickly.
They use a nail gun bang bang,bang, bang, it's up.
No, not over there.
Okay, old school, old school,all right.

(43:56):
Yeah, wow, because to get anysort of concrete out for the
pool, it's fence palings with anail and hammer.
Yeah, wow.
Oh my God, it's been like worsethan watching paint dry
watching it yeah wow, I keptsaying to Will, I can't watch.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
It is just going back in time, but it's like, yeah,
this is how we do, are theyhappy?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
They're fantastic, they're so happy.
Look in Crete, because theCretans and the Greeks have been
there for centuries.
Most of the families have theirown businesses, but because so
many people have seeked refugein Crete and other parts of

(44:41):
Greece, a lot of Albanians arein Crete.
Okay, so the Albanians do a lotof the manual labour because
and they may have amazingqualifications- but of course
that's in their country, Correct, you know?
And all of them have been sopolite, so friendly.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
And you know me, I take them out food yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
If I feed you, will you go quicker.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, can you move?
To a nail gun yeah yeah, soadvice, obviously you know,
being a real estate-basedpodcast, any advice or
inspiration that you could giveto our listeners about their own
property journey?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
I think don't put it off.
I think there's too muchprocrastination happening in
people's lives and a lot ofpeople that come to see me as a
one-on-one thing it's becausewe're so worried about making a
bad decision Correct and whathappens is we become so like we

(45:45):
dig our heels in and we'realmost terrified of making a bad
decision, so we don't make adecision at all and just stay
with what we know.
Now is the right time.
Now is the right time for youto look for a property that you
can afford.
And also something I try tobring across to young ones is

(46:06):
don't try and overextendyourself to get a property, your
forever property.
You're 30 years old.
Start small.
You don't need a foreverproperty.
Yeah, in a few years' time youwill have made such a good
amount of money or such goodequity that word again in this
home that you'll be able to getyour next best home.

(46:29):
And your next best home.
You know Such great advice,absolutely.
How about you just look at thebig picture instead of just
looking at?
I want it all now.
You know, Like when I wasyounger, if we could just get
into our first home, we didn'tcare if we sat on milk crates

(46:49):
yes, we didn't.
Of course, because we saved forour furniture.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
You know, even and that has stood me in great stead
, because you know, even whenWill asked to marry me, I said
sure, you're not going to getaway with it cheaply.
And when I choose a ring, I cantell you you're going to need
to pay cash.
So, because if you can't affordto pay cash, you can't afford

(47:15):
it, I love it.
So I always say just save forwhat you want.
Yes, you know, I mean I waslucky because he actually had a
better job than I thought when Ichose him.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
You'd waited to find each other as well.
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
So you weren't 16.
Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, look, it's amazing.
I am often asked aboutinvestment with property.
Obviously, you know landappreciates and homes depreciate
, but definitely I agree, Ithink the time is yesterday and
I think also, like I said, it'sextending your professional
network, getting advice.
There are so many governmentgrants and incentives and things

(47:52):
like that but certainly alsonow there's some new abilities
to be able to purchase withfamily and lots of great
opportunities.
So I always say like it's greatto be able to.
I mean, I went to my first homebuyer seminar gosh, it would
have been maybe 15 years agowith no intention or thought
that I would ever own a property.
It was well before my realestate career.

(48:14):
But I wanted knowledge and Iwanted to know okay, well, what
would I need to do?
Because it's not something thatyou just wake up overnight and
go okay, well, I'm going to savefor a house or I'm going to
start that process For somepeople potentially, but I would
say for the you know vastmajority of people and that
ability to be able to move from,like you said, that you know
renting to, you know purchasinga property, so let's move away

(48:38):
from real estate, let's have alittle bit more time to get to
know you.
Demi, I would love you to shareyour dream holiday destination.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
You know, because I'm fortunate enough to live in two
most beautiful parts of theworld, here on the Sunshine
Coast and in the.
Mediterranean.
I think I would love to go toTahiti, oh nice.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
What's the appeal there?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Oh look the Polynesian people are amazing.
The waters are crystal clear,which is just what I love, and
because we both will a nicescuba dive, he's obviously a
scuba diving instructor.
He teaches instructors.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
You know, in his spare time, yeah, so diving
would be phenomenal there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
So, yeah, I like it.
We'll put it on phenomenalthere, yeah, so yeah, I like it.
We'll put it on the list.
I'm kind of guessing whatyou're going to answer with this
, but what has been the best dayof your life so far?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Okay, because I'm not a baby.
I've been lucky enough to havequite a few best days of my life
.
So let's go the last decade.
Yes, in the last decade I metmy ideal partner and it's
honestly like Chose your idealpartner.

(50:00):
It's like I ordered him fromthe catalogue.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
He's a beautiful man.
Yeah, so meeting and choosinghim, although he chose me first
to be honest and I'm just likeno, You've got to read the book.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
No, you've got to read the book.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
He says I've got three rejections, and so that
was one and two the day where Ihad all but given up to find a
property in Crete, yes, in thelocation that I wanted.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
And as the gate opened up, it was like Oprah
herself went.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I love it.
It was just, it was everythingyou visited, everything.
Say that.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Olive trees, including the olive trees,
including the most amazing viewof the Mediterranean right
straight ahead.
My head veered to the left andthere were still snow-capped
mountains.
On the left, behind us, is anamazing gorge that used to be,

(51:08):
that used to have mills in it tomeal the wheat, and I just
started bawling and we allthought, oh no, Call that eight.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
That's number 12.
Yeah, it's amazing, but howbeautiful to be able to still
feel that moment as well and forit to be, you know, so
important to you.
And I know you know, aside fromthat decade, just so many other
amazing memories.
Your life is very full ofincredible achievements.
I have no doubt that the awardor trophy cabinet would be

(51:41):
overflowing, and you know that'stestament to your, you know,
recent award with your book.
It's, you know, the first ofmany ahead and I hope is there
any more books on the horizon.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Oh look, I actually joke with people and I stole
this line from Monica in Friends, where she says when people ask
me what's my next book, goingto be called which isn't true.
Yes, but it's funny because shesays marriage it's not for
everybody.

(52:13):
And yeah, that's funny, but Ithink my next book would be not,
yet I think my next book wouldreally be about okay.
So we've got past the meetingand choosing our ideal partner.
Now, how are we going to make along-term relationship not be

(52:33):
good but be phenomenal?
Awesome, Because it really is apartnership, yeah, absolutely.
And what really needs to takeplace?
What sort of dynamic are yougoing to create to ensure that
you literally have couple goalsyou know?
So that's what my next book'sgoing to be about.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Awesome, we look forward to it.
I'm sure it's not far away.
What about your favourite mealand drink?
What do you like to enjoy?

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Okay, now, being 100% honest, because I am a cook and
I like to cook.
In fact, that's my lovelanguage.
I know that is yeah.
If I cook for people, it reallymeans I care a lot about them.
My favourite meal is one that Idon't have to cook.
Yeah, I love it Because whenyou are a good cook, you don't

(53:25):
tend to be invited to people'shouses for a meal very often.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I just cooked for you last week and I was terrified.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
It was so beautiful, it was so good, I was so
terrified, you know, and I thinkI don't care if they give me
burnt toast.
If I don't have to cook it andI can enjoy these folks' company
.
That's all I want.
I like it, and when it comes todrinks, I really love making
cocktails.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yes, so have you not recorded some?
Yes, I have.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, I've recorded a few cocktail making videos
because I like making cocktailsthat are a spin on a classic or
completely different.
That's awesome, you know, uh,but I honestly can't go buy a
really good espresso martini.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And I like the little variations that, you know,
different ones are experimentingwith so it's not just a classic
.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
And are they enjoying ?
Do you have an espresso martinias like a cocktail, as a big
thing over in Crete?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
They are in cocktail bars, because there's cocktail
bars that just you know.
Like you sit in these amazinglounges right on the beach and
people are just bringing youcocktails.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Look, there's a reason you're living there right
, yeah, it's the best.
So what about the Mediterraneanfood?
Is it delicious over there Of?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
course, of course, yeah, and it's not only
delicious, but it's reallyhealthy, so fresh as well.
Yeah, it's just it's not.
It's not fatty, delicious, butit's really healthy, so fresh as
well.
Yeah, it's just it's not fattyLike people think.
People that haven't been therethink that you know food has
tonnes of olive oil and that init, actual Greeks and Cretans

(55:03):
don't drown their food witholive oil.
You know, they know that it's aflavour enhancer.
So everything is fresh andbecause everything is pretty
much, most things are organic.
Like you, taste a tomato andyou can see why a tomato is a
fruit.
Yes, because it's phenomenal,so flavoursome.

(55:25):
And potatoes?
I didn't know potatoes wassupposed to have a different
flavour to what they have.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it?
So yeah, the produce is justremarkable.
It's so gorgeous.
I think you know my mum livesin Tassie and the soil is so
nutrient-rich there as well.
Yeah, so I always get her tosneak some Dutch creams,
potatoes in the suitcase and allof her veggies Amazing.
Well, let's wrap this up for aconversation.

(55:51):
We could honestly talk forhours.
I'm so glad we hit record,because otherwise we would have
started hours before Demi.
Let's finish our catch up todaywith your favourite quote or
saying Okay, this is something Ilive by.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
It's not fancy, but I feel it gets people out of
being overwhelmed.
What I say sometimes, when Iwas in business on a daily basis
, is keep the most importantthing, the most important thing

(56:27):
Wow.
And I'll give you an example ofwhy that works In your
relationship.
In a marriage or a relationship, it's easy to lose focus and
sometimes be so absorbed insomething else that our priority
is shift.

(56:47):
Keep the most important thingthe most important thing and
that helps you with yourdecision making In business.
When we become overwhelmedbecause we have so much to do,
so much to achieve, we look atour diary and we think, oh, what
am I going to do?
Our diary and we think, oh,what am I going to do?

(57:12):
Keep the most important thing,the most important thing.
So what do I need to do nowthat will make the rest of my
day go smoother?
What is actually the mostimportant thing?
Don't do something superfluous.
The easy things.
If there's something, yeah, andsomething I've taught my
children and have taught my mystudents is do.

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If you have something that'sgoing to be difficult, a
difficult conversation, forexample, do it first thing in
the morning.
Great, don't leave it, it'sgoing to mess up your whole day.
You're not going to be able toconcentrate, whereas you you get
the ugly stuff done first thingin the morning and then you've

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got the rest of your day to makesure that you give a hundred
percent focus on everything youdo and chances are.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
You know that that difficult conversation's not
often as difficult as you think,is it?
No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Not at all, especially because you're
getting people when they'refresh too, that's true, that's
true.
You know you're not havingthese conversations.
When you're tired, they'retired.
That's right, you know youdon't know what's happened in
their day.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
So keep the most important thing the most
important thing, the mostimportant thing I liked your
little mama.
What was that?
Can we get that again?
That little I usually I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Oh my gosh, it was so cute.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I felt like you were talking directly into my soul,
as I know that every listenerwould, because I'm sure that
inability or I guess the juggleof priorities is ever present in
everybody's life.
But I think you know,ultimately, like you said, it's
just going back to what's mostimportant.
You have been an absoluteinspiration in my life in my

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marriage.
Thank you for your book.
I am so grateful that you flewall the way from Crete.
We timed that well.
We did.
I am forever grateful for yourtrust in the process of selling
two of your homes.
I will forever be grateful forthat.
It is never lost on me whattrust you gave me in that

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process.
You know it was a reallybeautiful experience to go
through.
Like I said not, you know, notall sold stickers and everything
like that, but my ability to beable to help you and achieve
your vision of where you are now, you know, will stay with me
forever.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
But we could not have done it without you.
You know how people say oh, Icouldn't do it without them, but
you kind of could You'd be agreat real estate agent.
We couldn't you know, and asfar as our real estate journey
is concerned, we're not finishedwith you yet, Amy Bennett.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
We are excited.
On that note, we will wrap upand watch this space for more
exciting things to come Thanksfor having me.
My pleasure, darling.
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