NT Framework - Does Jesus understand Science?

Many modern theologians and Christians believe tha Jesus doesn't understand biology or astronomy because HE got such obvious things such as gender wrong. What? 

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Jeremy Thomas is the pastor at Spokane Bible Church in Spokane, Washington and a professor at Chafer Theological Seminary. He has been teaching the Bible for over 20 years, always seeking to present its truths in a clear and understandable manner. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Beyond the Walls with Jeremy Thomas and
our series on the New TestamentFramework.
Today a smaller, bite-sizedpiece from the larger lesson.
We hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Another issue, very, very modern issue Gender,
marriage and the universe.
Did you know you could putthose three words together in
the same sentence?
Gender marriage, yes, but theuniverse.
Mark 10, 5 through 8.
Let's go to Mark 10.
What I'm trying to show you isbecause you may be asking

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yourself why are you bringing upthese texts?
I'm trying to show you thattexts that deal with very what
we might call issues of faithand morals, like marriage and
gender, are tied up withscientific evidence.
What we might call issues offaith and morals, like marriage
and gender, are tied up withscientific texts or texts that
touch on scientific issues thatrelate to the universe.

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And by showing you that, itshows you that it becomes.
It's very difficult to say, yes,jesus was always right when he
spoke to faith and morals, buthe made technical errors over
here when it dealt with issuesof history or science.
They're tied together in theBible.
So Mark 10, 5 through 8, andthis is a quote from Genesis 1

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and Genesis 2.
So one of the passages hequotes is Genesis 1, 127, and
the other is Genesis 24.
So let's see what he said.
They're asking a question aboutdivorce, right?
May a man you know permit, orwould God permit a man to
divorce his wife for any reason?
So in verse 5, jesus said tothem because of your hardness of

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heart, he wrote you thiscommandment.
That's, moses wrote acommandment, verse 6.
But from the beginning ofcreation, god made them what
male and female?
That's from genesis 127.
And then he says for thisreason, a man shall leave his
father and his mother, and thetwo shall become one flesh.
Say so, they shall no longer betwo, but one flesh.

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What, therefore, god has joinedtogether?
Let no man separate which verse7 and 8 there is from Genesis
2.24.
Here's the question Did Jesusnot know that there is no such
thing as male and female, butgender is fluid?
Well, he was just a man of histime.
He didn't realize that genderis a choice that you make.

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In fact, that choice can changejust as night follows day,
because gender is fluid.
Poor Jesus.
And you know, the worst thingabout it is, jesus built this
whole doctrine of marriage anddivorce on it.
Oops, but that's just a blunder.
Jesus just made a mistake.
He was a man of his time.

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Well, evidently Jesus believedin cis or binary genders, didn't
he?
But they say well, that wasjust an error.
Another one age of the humanrace.
Let's go to Matthew 23, 35.

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Matthew 23, 35.
Matthew 23, 35.
This is a quote from Genesis 4.
So I did one from Genesis 1 andthen a 2, and now we're jumping
3 over to 4.
We could do something from 3,but we don't have time to do
everything.

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Matthew 23, 35, where it saysJesus says so, that upon you,
that's, the Jews of thatgeneration that he came to,
first century Jewish people uponyou may fall the guilt of all
the righteous blood shed onearth, from the blood of
righteous Abel to the blood ofZechariah, the son of Barakai,

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whom you murdered between thetemple and the altar.
All these things, I say, willcome upon this generation.
Now it's interesting Two peopleare mentioned as being murdered
here, right, abel and Zechariah.
And he's saying you're guiltyof all the blood from Abel to

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Zechariah.
In the Jewish canon ofScripture they arrange it a
little differently than our OldTestament is arranged.
Their first book is Genesis,though like ours.
And who's the first personmurdered in the Bible?
Abel, he's the first person inhistory.
This is what Jesus is saying.
The first person in historythat was murdered, abel, you're

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guilty of that blood.
Now in their Bible.
The last book is what we wouldcall 2 Chronicles, and the last
guy in the Old Testament who'smurdered is guess what?
This guy, zechariah.
So what does Jesus say?
He's saying you're guilty ofall the blood from the beginning
of history up to where we arenow in canonical history.

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You're guilty of all that bloodof history up to where we are
now in canonical history.
Okay, you're guilty of all thatblood.
Now, how long has the human racebeen around?
When did Abel live?
Did Abel live?
Modern people, truly modern,you know, really intellectual,

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very wise academic tell us thatwe've been around for 200,000
years or so.
Well, wouldn't that mean thatthere was some blood shed before
Abel?
Who was only about at this time, 4,000, 5,000 years before, I
mean, was anybody murdered forthe first 190-something thousand

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years of human history?
Do you think any humans mayhave killed other humans?
I guess Jesus was just ignorantabout that.
Jesus just didn't know what anidiot.
We know so much more than him.
See, we've advanced the Bible.
It won't permit that type ofchronology.

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200,000 years, and the Bible isinsistent that.
You know this is the firstmurder.
But according to other peopleyou know who are, many
evangelicals would have to admitthat there were murders before
that.
So it's inconsistent.
It has problems with the text.

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How about the global flood ofNoah and the fossil record which
I mentioned to you earlier?
Matthew 24, 37.
I'll just turn one page over 24, 37.
In Jesus' Olivet Discourse Inverses 37 to 39, he's describing
the global flood as a model forwhat it will be like when the

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second coming transpires.
So he says in verse 37, thecoming of the Son of man will be
just like the days of Noah, foras in those days before the
flood, they were eating anddrinking, they were marrying and
giving in marriage until theday that noah entered the ark
and they did not understand,until the flood came and took
them all away.

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So will the coming of the sonof man be now?
In other words, did jesus buildhis doctrine of the second
coming on the flood?
Of no, yes, and he said there'san exact parallel.
He says it'll be just like inverse 37, which is a term of
identity.
It'll be identical in therespect that he's describing.

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So maybe Jesus just made amistake by building the doctrine
of the second coming on theflood.
What do you think?
I mean, are we just going to.
Well, if you wipe away theglobal flood of Noah, right, and
you say, well, in these moderntimes we know better that

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there's been many local floods,you know, over the course of
time, and that explains thefossil record, which is what
they basically say, then you'redenying the global flood.
But if you deny the globalflood of Noah as an evangelical,
which many do, how can you holdon to the second coming?

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