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July 28, 2025 8 mins

There are three parts to an egg, just like God. There are many such things in creation that have three parts like God; and yet none of these are like God at all!

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Jeremy Thomas is the pastor at Spokane Bible Church in Spokane, Washington and a professor at Chafer Theological Seminary. He has been teaching the Bible for over 20 years, always seeking to present its truths in a clear and understandable manner. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Beyond the Walls with Jeremy Thomas and
our series on the New TestamentFramework.
Today a smaller, bite-sizedpiece from the larger lesson.
We hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
But first of all, god is one.
What this means is that God'spersons are mutually exhaustive
of one another.
Let's explain that further.
This means he can't be dividedinto parts.
It's typical for people to say,well, god is like an egg.
You got one egg and it's gotthree parts shell, yolk and
albumen or whatever.
Or one light particle, or is ita wave, whatever?

(00:34):
Break light apart into threeparts and say, well, that's like
God.
Or a pie.
You take a pie.
This is the easiest one.
Here comes Thanksgiving in amonth Hopefully, I have some
pies and you cut the pie inthree parts.
You get a piece, I get a piece,and my wife gets a piece.
That's a big piece.
Okay, that's not God.
God is not like a pie and yousplit it.

(00:55):
You have Father, son and Spirit, and together they're all God.
Because what would that mean?
That would mean the Father isnot God, the Son is not God, the
Spirit is not God.
In fact, the Father is lessthan God and the Son is less
than God, and the Spirit is lessthan God because each one of
them are only one-third, see,okay, that is not what God is

(01:18):
like.
So if that's your idea of God,that's what we call an idol.
Did you catch that?
Why?
Because this concept of God asa pie is a created concept.
It's created, it's functioningin the categories that God made,

(01:42):
and you can't take God as thecreator and subject him to our
categories.
So what this is saying is thatGod's persons are mutually
exhaustive of one another.
In other words, if you werethinking of the pie and you got
Father, son and Spirit as threepieces of the pie, what this is
saying is that each piece of thepie is mutually exhaustive of

(02:02):
every other piece of pie, butwe're like well, that doesn't
make sense to me.
I don't see how that can be.
There are three separate piecesof pie, but not in the model of
the Trinity.
That's not the way it works.
The three persons are mutuallyexhaustive of one another, such
that in one sense, they're allthe same pie, the entire pie.
So what people do, and thereason people tend to think this

(02:28):
way and draw analogies with Godand say God's like an egg or
God's like a pie or whatever, isbecause that's the way things
are down here in creation andthat's the only way they know
how to think, and so they tendto borrow this idea from
creation and then project itonto the creator.
This is where all idolatrystart.

(02:49):
Okay, that won't ever work.
Okay, as two saint used to saystanley, two saint, that dog
won't hunt um.
So that's trying to capture godand bring him into created
categories.
And let's go to Isaiah 40, verse18.
Isaiah, chapter 40, verse 18.

(03:12):
Let's see why you can't do this.
The Bible explicitly says youcan't do this.
Isaiah 40, verse 18.
To whom, then, will you likenGod, or what likeness will you

(03:33):
compare with him?
Isn't that what you're doingwhen you say, well, god is like
an egg, god is like a pie.
God is like the three parts ofmusic melody, harmony and rhythm
.
That's what you're doing.
You're saying god is like thisthing, but the bible says, well,

(03:54):
who are you going to comparehim with?
Okay, to what then we liken him?
And then the very next verse istalk about what subject?
Idols, because once you beginto compare him with something
else, that is the beginning ofidolatry.
That's how it gets started.
So it's actually.

(04:16):
Everything is exactly theopposite.
We don't have these categoriesdown here, and then we project
the categories on God and puthim in our categories.
The reason we have categoriesis because of who he is.
They're derived from him.
In other words, why do we havea concept called time?
Is that a category?

(04:38):
I mean, for us it's a category,because some of you are saying
I've got to be out here at 12noon, so you have a concept of
time.
Why do we have, is that aconcept, that we then take and
we say, well, god must be intime, he's limited by time.
You know this is.
There's a whole theology calledprocess theology that is built

(04:58):
on this idea that God is subjectto time, process theology.
So this is endemic to people'sthinking, to bring God into our
categories.
Here's the reason we have time,though Time is a finite
derivative of eternality.

(05:19):
God is eternal, he's notsubject to time.
He doesn't experience thepassage of moments, so to speak,
as we do.
But time exists because it is afinite replica of eternity.
It's eternity shrunk down insize, so to speak.

(05:43):
Now we also have concept ofspace in geometry.
Right, geometry is basicallythe study of spaces.
Why do we have that?
I mean, is that just somethingthat exists?
Verne Poitras wrote a veryinteresting article in around
1978.
He was a mathematician, also atheologian, and he wrote a paper

(06:08):
about mathematics and whetherGod was silent about it.
In other words, is math mathwhether or not God exists?
Can you have math whether ornot God exists?
And he has a proof.
And he has a proof.
He has a proof that shows thatmath is not neutral, that math

(06:30):
itself is derivative of thenature of God and you can't just
go about doing your geometry,doing your calculus, doing your
physics, doing all your littleformulas for friction and
whatnot.
You cannot do those withoutassuming God is actually there.
It's a formal proof and it'sbeen very difficult for people

(06:52):
to answer.
As a result of that, james Nicolwrote a book it's about almost
half the thickness of our Biblecalled Mathematics is God's
Silent, by James Nicol, veryinteresting textbook to show
that the categories and thingsthat we enjoy, like space, time,
math and concept of number time, all these things, the only

(07:14):
reason we have these categoriesto function in, is because of
the nature of God and thesethings are derivative of his
nature by means of creation.
So fascinating stuff.
But the point here to noticeespecially is that God's persons
, the Father, son and Spirit,are mutually exhaustive of one
another.
And you say but that doesn'tfit my category.

(07:36):
Right, I get that, but he'sinfinite, we're finite and the
categories we have, we can'tshove him into.
It won't work.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Thank you for joining us on Beyond the Walls with
Jeremy Thomas.
If you would like to see thevisuals that went along with
today's sermon, you can findthose on Rumble and on YouTube
under Spokane Bible Church.
That is where Jeremy is thepastor and teacher.
We hope you found today'slesson productive and useful in

(08:05):
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