4 Cornerstones of the Superhuman Framework by George B. Thomas

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George B. Thomas (00:01):
Passion matters because it turns effort
into excellence. I want you toask yourself, is the effort that
I'm applying coming out theother side as excellence? You
see, passion, it keeps youenergized. It keeps you curious.
It keeps you creative.

(00:23):
And when you're passionate aboutsomething, you're willing to go
beyond the bare minimum. Clockin, clock out, and you're more
willing to strive for greatness,significance versus success.
Without passion, it's easy toburn out or lose interest over
time, but passion makes thejourney enjoyable, not just at

Liz Moorhead (00:46):
Welcome back to the Beyond Your Default podcast.
I'm your host, Liz Morehead. Andas always, I'm joined with one
of my favorite humans on thisplanet, George b Thomas. How are
you?

I'm doing great because I get to hang with
one of my favorite humans aswell. Liz Morehead. Hey. I'm
doing good. How are you doing?

Super. That's very convenient. We should just keep
doing that. Our favorite humanson a podcast. Let's just do
that.
But it is my favorite thingthough that we get to do
something we love with someonethat we love. Like, that just
makes it all happy and warm andfuzzy for me.

And for people that we love.

That's right.

You can do that. That's you listeners, by
the way.

We do love you. So, George, kick us off. What's
your highlight and your lowlight from the weekend?

Highlight was that I actually took some time
to relax.

A little time for self care?

Well, I didn't do any self care per se, unless
you just say chilling out for alittle bit is self care. I went
with the wife, and we did someshopping, and we watched a
football game and, you know,just average everyday normal
human stuff, which was fun andexciting. And it's not a low
light, but that was one day.Right? So one day, I actually

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did work quite a bit, and thenone day, I did take time to
actually relax.

And I'll be honest. Based on my Slack, I can
tell which day that was.

Yeah. I I worked Saturday. I took Sunday
off. I'm not sure if this is alow light or if I just have a
problem, and I might just have aproblem. But I got done with
something on Saturday andrealized that I had created a
128 page document.
And I was like, oh my god. Like,what is wrong with me? So the
diagnosis is out. Maybe that's alittle bit of a low light of,

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like, wow. How did that happen?
But,

but yeah. Document that's coming my way?

Yeah. Okay. That's Maybe, eventually, it
might be coming your way. SoI'll explain more in-depth when
the podcast is over.

So That

that might be your low light right now. I
don't know.

Well, whenever you give me a big pile of words, it
usually starts as a and then weusually end up in a really happy
spot. I always like big piles ofwords. It means you've got
something baking in that oldnoggin of yours, which I always
really like. My low light is I'mjust gonna throw this out there
based on when we are recordingthis. And you and I were talking
a little bit about this beforewe started recording, is that

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it's just really hard watchingwhat is happening in Western
North Carolina and Oh, yeah.
And Eastern Tennessee right now,after hurricane Helene. I don't
wanna get too much into itbecause it's not a tragedy that
I really wanna center aroundmyself or deeply personalized,
but it is heartbreaking to watchliteral towns just vanish off a
map forever.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I have family up
there. So over the weekend, itwas, like, trying to get a hold
of people who don't haveInternet or cell service to see
if they're, like, still okay.So, yes, I hear you.

In a highlight capacity, I am up in New England
right now, house sitting fordear friends of mine. They have
2 sweet cats, and I've just gotthis big house in Windsor,
Connecticut all to myself. Andthe highlight of this weekend is
I spent 2 days completely on myown, and this was on purpose. I
went hiking. I did journaling.

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I did a lot of refocusing onmyself, and I'm actually teeing
that off for this entire week tobe a hard reset week in my life
to disconnect and reconnect asmuch as possible so I could go
into the end of year strong andreally think about, you know,
I've spent the past 18 monthsreally more in a survivor

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mentality, and in some parts ofthat time, that was kind of what
was required. Right? I made alot of big changes. I had to
move a lot of things around. Ihad to do some very hard things.
And now I've started coming outof it, but I am having this
moment of, oh, I get to havegoals. I get to have things that
I am

Oh, yeah.

Actually working toward. It's not just about, oh,
thank god. I woke up thismorning, and I have breath in my
lungs, and I don't feel like,you know, everything is sitting
on my chest. You know?

I mean, although breath in your lungs is
a good thing.

Yes. It's just a matter of I wanna start building
things again instead of justmaking it through. And I've
already started doing that, butI'm looking at this opportunity
to be completely out of my usualroutines, but also back by my
favorite park. So there's thispark in middle of New Haven, of

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all places, where it's like abig 2 and a half, 3 mile loop.
And up here, the leaves areturning because it's the they
get beautiful fall colors uphere first.
And I was out there twice thisweekend, and I just felt life
reentering my body. And itreminded me how important it is
to make sure we are nurturingour souls in addition to making

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sure, are we getting this done?Am I getting that done? Am I
doing this? Am I doing that?
Am I showing up? Am I checkingthis box? Am I do it? I feel
more like myself than I have ina really long time. Now don't
get me wrong.
Coming up here, I was in goodshape. It's just a matter of,
alright, time to level back upagain.

Yeah. I love those moments in life when you
just kind of reset, reboot,refocus. It's great.

So that's what I'm using it for, and it's my
favorite time of year. I knowpeople are a big fan of spring
cleaning, but I'm a big fan ofharvest cleaning, because fall
time is all about the harvest.So you're pulling things
metaphorically and literally outof the land. You are reaping
what you have sown throughoutthe year, but you're also taking
a look at what didn't. And Ithink that's often something
that gets really missed in thatnarrative around spring

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cleaning, harvesting, all the Ifind the harvest time of year to
be a much more fruitful time todo that, because you can see
what you planted and whatfailed.
You can see what crops failed.You can see what parts of the
land did not prosper the waythey were supposed to prosper.
It really gives you anopportunity to truly audit your
efforts or where you areinvesting your time and energy

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and with whom.

Yeah.

So that's what I'm using this time for

Love it.

Which is exciting. But today

Yeah. This actually, today is very
interesting that we're havingthis conversation. And based on
what you just said and whereyou're at in life, it's
interesting that we're havingthis conversation, but that
happens so many times.

It happens all the time. What do we so

many times.

All the time. I so many times I get off this
podcast and go, okay. Thatpodcast was for me. I mean, it's
for you guys too. But you know?

Yeah.

But today, we're digging deeper into a topic that
you teased a bit last week.Right? We're talking about the
superhuman framework. Now, forlong time listeners, first time
callers, or even those who arenew to the show, let me just
give you a quick background. Sothe superhuman framework is this
practical, actionable road mapthat's built from years of

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George's hands on experienceworking both with individual
people and with businesses.
And the framework itself iscentered around 10 core
principles. The 10 h's, if youwill, that you can use to
systematically elevate everyarea of your life from your
well-being to your professionalsuccess and everything in
between. And those 10 pillarsare happy, hungry, helpful,

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humble, humorous, honest,healthy, holistic, human, and
holiness. Holiness, if you'velistened to that episode and by
the way, there is an episode forevery single pillar. I wanna
point that one out very quickly.
That is nurturing the soulregardless of your belief
structure.

Yeah.

Whether that is Jesus, the flying spaghetti man
in the sky, Allah, or quitefrankly, just science.

It could be the magic muffin. It's totally
up to you. No judgment. Thathappens.

But to put in this into context, I want you to
think of your life like a house.Right? You are building and
designing a house to perfectlysuit your needs. Right? So when
we are building our lives, like,I was just talking about this at
the very beginning.
Right? I'm sitting hererealizing I get to go out and
build my life. I don't have tojust survive and wake up and

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breathe. I now am in a designingmode. Right?
And that's where we all areright now. If you are listening
to this, you are the architectof your own life, your own
house, if you will. Now keep inmind what makes your life house
perfect for you is wildlydifferent for me. Like my dream
house, 1 floor rancher,somewhere cool, literally, like,

(09:11):
I love cold weather, but alsoNope. Kinda hip and cool.
I know. I know. I will see youon your cruises as you wave on
by. But I also want some roomsthat have lots of light, but I
also want ones that are dark andcozy. I want a big home office,
a bright kitchen.
The style that I tend togravitate toward is very kind of

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like a eclectic maximalisttraditional, lots of colors,
rich textures. One of my friendssaid looking at my apartment is
like looking at the world's mostinteresting 80 year old man, so
take from that what you will.But, George, your dream home,
I'm gonna guess, does not soundanything like that.

No. Not really. Other than the large
office, I will agree with that.And I like a lot of light. So
Yeah.
But but totally different.

Yeah. Yours is different. Our listeners, if
you're listening to this, yourdream house is likely different
from mine. However, each of ourdream homes, regardless of how
they look, share foundationalelements like a roof, strong
walls, floors, all of these. Andthat's what we mean when we say
core principles.
They are the roof, the windows,the doors. They are the

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foundational elements that weall have in common.

Yeah.

That we all need to look toward in order to, from
a 360 degree view, live thislife beyond our default. But
there are 4 cornerstones withinthe foundation, if you will.
Right? Yeah. Because we have ourroofs, we have our windows, we
have our walls, we have ourdoors, all of those good things,
but we have the cornerstones ofour foundation, the strength

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underpinning our home.
And there are 4 of them. That'swhat we are talking about today.

Yeah. I'm excited to talk about this
because and by the way, justbeing completely honest with
listeners, you know, if you goback to the original podcast
episode, you realize that thissuperhuman framework sat in a
Google Doc for 2 years before iteven saw the light of day. And
so as I kinda started to reallyjourney down this brainstorming

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session and getting it built outand bringing it to the world, I
realized, fundamentally, therewere some things missing. Not in
the actual h pillars, but in thething that drives them. Like,
Liz, I want us to start to thinkabout as you ask me questions
around this.
I feel like with the 10 h's, Ibuilt the car, but I didn't give

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people the gas or the GPS to getto mile marker a 1000 or 10000
or have, like you know what Imean? And so these are the you
you'll see. You'll see.

No. I love that analogy, though, because it's
one of those things where it'slike, great. Love your car.
What's the fuel to get there?What's the map?

Yeah.

Right? What are the things that actually make us
go forward, give us that drive,that momentum, that energy, that
direction?

Yeah.

And And one of my favorite things about this, and
I I'm just wanna tease this. Myfavorite thing about this
particular episode is we aregoing to get into a topic which
we do have a whole episodededicated toward, but it was
something where you and I hadtalked about and went, holy
cannoli. How is this the root ofeverything and somehow absent
from our discussion?

Yeah.

Not anymore.

Not anymore.

So George, why do we even have cornerstones to the
superhuman framework? Why aren'tthe 10 pillars enough on their
own? How How does this all fittogether?

Yeah, Liz. And it's it's a great question. You
know, it it gets to the heart ofwhat the superhuman framework is
as we start to piece all thistogether. When we talk about the
4 cornerstones of the superhumanframework and, by the way, love,
purpose, passion, andpersistence, those are the 4.
We're really talking about thewhy behind everything we do.

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By the way, the do's, the hpillars. Right? The why, these
four cornerstones. So these areemotional and motivational
forces if you think about love,purpose, passion, and
persistence. Emotional andmotivational forces that keep us
grounded.
I want you to think of them asthe deep roots of a tree. They

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hold everything together. Theygive us strength and they help
us, weather the storms of life,if you will. Without that sense
of love for what we do or apurpose guiding our path or the
passion that fuels ourexcitement or persistence to
keep going when things gettough, well, we'd be like leaves
blowing in the wind.Directionless.

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Just wherever life takes us andI mean, you even mentioned goals
and reboot and reset. It's timeto stop being leaves in life,
listeners, and have somedirection. I think these
cornerstones help us with that,which, by the way, I can say
this because I've had many yearsof my life where I was just
blowing around aimlessly, nothaving any type of direction. So

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if you think about the 10 h's,those are the key traits and
daily habits. Alright?
So that the h pillars are thekey traits and daily habits that
we develop to live a superhumanlife or to be a superhuman in a
life that is a journey beyondour default, our our stuck
status, or our place that we putas far as a ceiling over us. The

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h pillars, they're the practicalside of things. Right? Liz
listed off happiness, health,humility, humor, all of those
good qualities that help usnavigate the day to day life
that we have. Those pillars, youcould think of them since we're
using a tree analogy, likebranches of the same tree that

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we talked about the roots.
These pillars are stretching outinto different areas of our
lives, helping us to grow andthrive in a balanced way. To
really answer your question,Liz, it's not really a matter of
whether the 10 Hs could stand ontheir own. I mean, they are
absolutely essential. Each onecan stand kind of by itself, but

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they shine brighter when they'reanchored in something deeper.
And the cornerstones are whatkeep you going when the going
gets tough, but the 10 h's arehow you show up every day and
live it out.
Okay. I want I have to say thatagain because I want people to
grasp that. The cornerstones arewhat keep you going when the

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going gets tough, but the 10 h'sare the how you show up every
day to live it out. Thecornerstones are the why, and
the 10 h's are the how. You see,you need both.
You can't live with just 1 orthe other. And I'll put it this
way. If your purpose is to makea real impact in the world,
you've gotta stay hungry forgrowth, be helpful to others,

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and, of course, keep your healthin check both physically and
mentally. But without that senseof purpose, those daily actions
might start to feel hollow and,at the same time, if you've got
purpose but aren't practicingthose daily traits, you might
burn out or lose balance. Yousee, the magic happens when they
come together, and that's whyboth the 4 cornerstones and the

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10 pillars are necessary, or atleast in my life, and if you
wanna take this framework andrun with it for your own life,
are necessary because they workhand in hand to help us live
extraordinary lives, livesbeyond our default.
They give us the power to notjust survive, but to thrive,
both personally, by the way, andprofessionally. I know right now

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you're listening to Beyond YourDefault and it's a personal
growth podcast newslettercommunity, all of that good
stuff. But we've literally beentaking this conversation on the
road into professional settingsas well and even professional
podcast, and it resonates withpeople in company cultures, in
team dynamics, in individualgrowth. So all of this, it's

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about creating a life beyond ourdefault where we feel fulfilled,
we feel grounded, and we'reexcited to face whatever comes
next, Liz. That's why these workhand in hand and go together,
and now nothing feels missing.

Well, I love how you're describing this whole
interaction, particularly thepart where you're talking about,
like, what are you gonna do? Getup every day and do stuff and
not really have a reason behindit? No why? No purpose? No
passion?
No reason to be or to do. Youknow, one of the things that I'm
actually focusing on over thisweekend is, like, so how do I
determine what I wanna do? Well,why am I here? What are the

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things that I love? What is thepurpose that I am bringing to
this world?

Yeah. It's interesting because to hear you
say that, my brain goes 2places. It's the why and then
because of my friend, Mick Hunt,the because. Like, understanding
our why and our because is,like, super crazy cool and an
important piece. And when youhave that element that you're
starting to rebuild and youlayer on what we're talking

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about, the superhuman framework,the pillars, and the
cornerstones

Let me just ask really quickly. When we say why
because, it is very similar to avery emotional conversation we
had. I can't remember whatepisode it was, but it was one
where you were like, ladies andgentlemen, she's stopped
speaking. We're hitting later.It was when you were asking me
why I do what I do, and I said,well, I am here to help other

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people shine as brightly aspossible by understanding that
they can only do so and helpothers do the same if they shine
first because I know what it'slike to feel voiceless.
And that is something that isvery personal to me.

Yeah. And the because is the hardest to
answer, but it's what gives youthe most fuel. So here, I'll
give you another example ofkinda like yours list. Why am I
so fixated on being one of thepremier educators in any space
that I walk into? Because I hada math teacher, an educator who
told me I would never amount toanything.

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Why am I so hell bent on chasingsignificance in my life? Because
I started in a one room logcabin with no running water,
feeling very insignificant tolife itself. They are matches
that when you understand why youdo the why that you are called
for, and it's because of thething that you can attach to in

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your past, now you havedirection and fuel for, again,
what we're talking about today,the superhuman framework.

So before we get into each of the 4 because you
are gonna you are gonna take usthrough each of them and then
just like the pillars, guys

Yeah.

We're going to have episodes for each of them.
So don't you worry if there'sone that really speaks to your
soul. We're gonna be going cliffdiving into each of these
topics. But how did you choosethem? How did these end up
becoming the 4?

It's a great question. Like, let me start at
high level because we could goreal therapy session real quick
here. So You would do you needme

to proactively give you a house or just move
off?

Yeah. Hold hold on. So we'll start high
level. So love, purpose,passion, and persistence became
the foundation or thecornerstones of the superhuman
framework. When I was puttingthis framework together, I
wanted to identify what trulydrives people to live
extraordinary lives.
It's not just about success orachievement. At least, for me,

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it's about what's behind thescenes, the force that keeps
people pushing forward no matterwhat. So I asked myself, like,
what's the core motivation thatallows someone to live to their
fullest potential? And I startedby asking myself personally,
like, what elements have helpedme live a life live my life,

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survive my life, and become whoI am today? Which, by the way,
the more I talk to people,they're like, dude, who you are
today is crazy, especiallycompared to where you come from.
But starting to dig inward, whatwere the elements that I just
natively, like, pulled in andgrabbed and used? And then I
started to study other folkswho, by my perception, were

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living a life that seemed to bebeyond their default. And, Liz,
after studying myself andstudying other humans who had
overcome challenges and createdor were creating impact in the
world, it became clear thatthese four cornerstones, love,
purpose, passion, persistence,they were nonnegotiables. If you

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look at Michael Hyatt, I cantell you right now pretty much
what he does ties back to love.He's very purposeful and he's
passionate about what he does.
If you look at, you know oh,man. I just can start to pull so
many people. Like, theseelements are in there. They're
universal and they apply toalmost every aspect of life,

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whether you're talking, again,about personal growth,
professional achievement, teamdynamics, culture. Like, you can
find the thread of these inalmost everything.
I'm gonna break these down, butdo you wanna pick at that a
little bit? Because I didmention it could be therapy
chair or maybe not, but it's upto you.

Oh, I wanna pick.

Yeah. I figured.

I like how you're just learning. When is Liz
activated?

I could continue on, but Liz has
something. I'm sure.

Well, I mean, I was sitting here writing down a
note that I wanted to come backto that before we moved on. So,
yeah, I wanna talk a bit aboutthis idea of these are the
things that we love. We do thisfrom a place of love, and maybe
this is a bit existential. Thisis a point where you can say,

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Liz, we pick this, but this isthis is part of that episode.
Sometimes it's hard to know whatyou love.
Sometimes finding that clarity.Sometimes finding that because
you were sitting there rattlingoff examples of, like, if you
peel back the layers onsuccessful people, like, if I
even look at you, if I look atour friend Mick, if I look at

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one of my favorite humans who'sin a completely different
industry, he's doing it for thelove of a group of people who
are fundamentally not advocatedfor in that particular industry.
Right? When we think about allof these different pieces and
why these are the 4, there is apattern. There are these 4

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elements that just keeprecurring over.
But I think maybe it's thespooked little voice in me is
what if I get it wrong? What ifI pick the wrong thing? What if
I can't figure out that answer?Yeah. I know.
Great great episode.

Fantastic. No. No. Ladies

and gentlemen, if you need us.

Yeah. So you know the amount of things that
I've loved in my life? That'sthe thing. Like and this is
gonna go completely sideways,and then I'll dive into these
four things. But I'm gonna takethis second to go sideways.
The problem with that littlevoice is it's talking about
mistakes instead of a journey.When when everything comes from
love, then it's about loving thething that you love at that

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moment in time. This goes backto many podcasts ago. We talked
about being a a transitionspecialist, being able to pivot.
I loved design and development.
I loved podcasting. I lovedvideo. What did we do? We
transitioned. We pivoted.
It's not like anything washappening wrong. It's just that
and by the way, there was alwaysa core thing around the podcast,

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the video. It was the center wasHubSpot. Like, I loved HubSpot.
I loved the HubSpot community,but all these AI right now,
like, I'm nerding out with AI.
But why? Because it's around themarketing content creation
community. Right? So it's lessabout getting things wrong and
allowing yourself just to lovethe thing that excites you. Like

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so let's let's actually start tobreak this down a little bit.
Love, at least love in thecontext of the superhuman
framework, is all about the deepconnection. Those are key words
there, deep connection that youhave with yourself, with others,
and with the work or things thatyou do. So it it's a deep

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connection with yourself, withothers, your work, or the things
that you do. Love is the energythat fuels relationships and the
care that you put into yourpassions. Notice, Liz, I didn't
say passion, so you can't get itwrong because it can be
passions.
And by the way, this isn't justlike romantic love, though that

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can be part of it. If you goback to our episode when we
talked about agape and thedifferent types of love, like,
it's the love for your journey.It's the love for your purpose.
It's the love for the peoplearound you. Like, imagine a
teacher who absolutely loveswhat they do.

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Liz, they don't just show up fora paycheck. They genuinely care
about the kids that they teach.They're the ones who stay late
to help a student who'sstruggling, who find creative
ways to make lessons engaging,and who genuinely believe in the
potential of every single child.By the way, I'm talking about
children, but I could be talkingabout myself right now with

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humans. Right?
Because I'm willing to workextra, stay up late, build
special things. That love formstheir work from just a job into
something deeply fulfilling andimpactful. Liz, I believe this
is why it's so easy for me tosay I don't go to work. I go to
play. Right?

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So so why does that matter if wethink about love in that way?
Because love is what makes liferich and meaningful. When you
love what you do or who yousurround yourself with, it
creates resilience. We'll dive alittle bit more into that later.
You're more willing to put inthe effort.
You're more willing to makesacrifices. You're more willing

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to go the extra mile becauseyou're not just going through
the motions, you're actuallyinvested. Without love, you
might find success, but it'sunlikely to be fulfilling, and
that success might not even besustainable. So, Liz, that's my
take on love as far as acornerstone of the superhuman

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framework. I know you probablyhave questions for me.

You know, it actually reminds me of something
because I was sitting here. Thisis where our listeners are gonna
get a little bit of insiderbaseball on how you and I work
together. Because we've talkedabout the fact that, you know,
in the best way possible, thisis a building the boat while
you're sailing it kindascenario. We are walking on this
journey ourselves. We areworkshopping this material

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ourselves.
The reason why you hear some ofthese concepts shift over time
is because George and I areusing ourselves as a human
laboratory. And I bring up thisspecific example not to poke fun
at you, George, but the reasonwhy self care was a joke earlier
is go back and listen to theself care episode. Originally,
George didn't wanna do itbecause he was like, why are we

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why are we here? Why would itWhy are we talking about this?
Alright, white woman onInstagram.
What are we doing here? Right?What I'm noticing is that the 4
cornerstones are all the sameraw material energy, and the 4
contexts in which they show up.Because there because if you
think about you know howwhenever I write our newsletter,

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I often bring science in itbecause usually what is small,
what is big. You know, it's wethe universe is built.
And I'm not saying universe insome sort of woo woo sense. I
would say literally theuniverse, the stars, the
galaxies, like, the actual starstuff. Everything is big.
Everything is small. Leaves lookit's it's a whole studying
science is a great way tounderstand how all of these

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different things work, and itjust it reminds me of the
conversation though to get backto love specifically for a
second.
I wrote an issue about the ideaof risk because a friend of mine
asked me once, why is takingrisks so hard? And whenever
somebody throws a little thoughtgrenade like that into my brain,
I usually let it sit. Right? I'mlike, oh, I know I'm gonna write

(29:05):
about that, but I'm not ready towrite about it yet. So I'll let
it sit passively, subconsciouslyin the back of my head.
And then one day, while I wasrunning on a track at my gym at
Pitt Moyer Rec Center inAnnapolis, it started to pop
out. Suddenly, I just thought tomyself, that's not the real
question. Because I realized,well, I could have 2 equitably
sized and shaped risks in frontof me. Like, let's pretend we

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can actually physically manifestwhat these risks look like.
Like, they're about the sizeeach of them are about the size
of softballs.
Each of them are, you know,equitable in terms of the effort
it would take to put into therisk, take the risk, as well as
the reward. But one is blue andone is green, and they're just
different things. Yet for somereason, the risk in my left hand

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will feel harder for me toovercome to do than the one in
my right. So I'm like, well,wait a minute. Then the real
question is, why do some risksfeel easier than others, and why
do some feel harder than others?
And so I sat further with it,and it's like, oh, because one I
really effing want. So I haveequal amounts of fear and

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concerns in both of those cases,but the desire, the purpose, the
love, the whatever is greaterwith risk a in my left hand than
it is in b. But the problem iswe often don't sit down to do
the work and decide what isworth fighting for, what is
worth risking the biscuit for.And that's where we end up

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getting stuck, and I justthought that was really
interesting to think about itthat way. That often the reason
why we will lack that motivationto move forward is because we
haven't sat down and said, well,what the heck is worth fighting
for?

Well, there's

What do we love?

Yeah. I totally agree with you, and I'm
gonna because, you know, thispodcast is about, like, you say
things, and then my brain goes acertain way. I say things. Your
brain goes a certain way. But Iwould also say this to your
friend.
The more risks you take, theeasier they become to take. It
also is to tell

which ones you don't wanna take because you
don't have to take all

of them. The other thing too is when you
realize you don't have anythingto lose, then you're willing to
take the risk. But there's awhole another episode on it's
not really yours. So it's notreally yours. Why do you keep
trying to control it?
And when you realize it's notyours and you can't control it,
then taking risks become reallyeasy.

We have to do an episode about this, so because,
oh, we're definitely gonna havea risk conversation clearly.
Because my thought too is thatonce you get really clear on
what, who, why you love thatthat big reason, the why, the
because, it makes it really easyto realize which risks are ones
you should actually be puttingyour energy toward and which
ones will always just feel emptybecause it's just it's just not

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your bag.

And I'll warn the listeners when we get to
that episode, you might wannabuckle up because I love taking
risks.

I will tell you as much as I contain multitudes in
the way that an unhinged 28minute voice memo at 3 AM
contains multitudes. Your girlis not afraid of risk taking.
We're gonna take you to school.Okay. That's going on the
calendar.
Risk taking. Alright.

So so let's drive into purpose. Right? So
that was that was all out oflove. So let's talk about
purpose. It's funny that youmentioned energy because purpose
literally is the driving forcethat gives your life meaning.
It's the why behind everythingyou do. When you're clear on
your purpose, it aligns youractions with your values. It's

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what gets you out of bed in themorning and keeps you going even
when things get tough. A goodexample of this, a real world
example might be anentrepreneur. I don't know.
I know a few of them. Who startsa nonprofit organization to
combat homelessness. We're justgonna use that as our example.
This person could have chosen amore traditional career path,

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but they felt a strong pool tohelp those in need because they
themselves have experiencedhardship. They've seen it
firsthand.
They've felt it firsthand. Sotheir purpose is to make a
difference in the world bycreating housing solutions, and
that mission guides all theirdecision. That mission guides

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all their decisions. Listeners,I would ask you, with what
you're doing right now, who youare, do you feel it is a
mission, and is it guiding yourdecisions? Even when funding for
this entrepreneur is tight orprogress is slow, their purpose
keeps them focused andmotivated.
So this matters because purposeis I want you to think of it as

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the compass that keeps you ontrack. It it's the difference
between feeling aimless andfeeling driven. Without purpose,
it's easy to get distracted ordiscouraged when obstacles
appear, but when you have aclear sense of purpose, setbacks
don't derail you. They justbecome challenges to overcome.

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By the way, I knew because mypurpose was to be a great
educator, I wasn't worried onviral videos.
I was worried on creating valueto the world. Purpose gives you
the resilience. By the way,that's the second time you've
heard this word in us talkingabout these cornerstones, to
persist, which we'll be talkingabout in a little bit, in the

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face of adversity because youknow why you're doing what
you're doing. Listeners, do youknow why you're doing what
you're doing right now in thistime of life? It's it's a hard
question, but I would beg you toask it.
Liz, I'm pretty sure you'reprobably gonna have thoughts or
questions for me before I moveon to passion. Yeah. You're

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holding up your notes. Yes.

Anytime you see me looking away, Liz is either look
except pickup or this. Here'swhat I find fascinating about
purpose. It is both easy andhard because I think you know,
when I think about what I see alot of growth minded people both
excited about and quite franklypanicked about is their ability
to either define or theirinability to to define what

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their purpose is. But I lovedthe way you talk about it or
talked about it just now becauseit's a lot simpler than people
think it is. Meaning, you don'thave to have some grand sweeping
narrative.
You just have to be able tolatch on to a bite sized piece
of what you know your realpurpose is. Because often what
will happen and at least, youknow, I say this at you know, I

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will be 42 years young laterthis month, and I know you just
turned what? 29?

35 if we go backwards, but yeah. Shoot.
We're not gonna 53.

I've gotta be honest. We need to talk, we need
to do an episode where I ask youall the things about, like, that
usually TikTok influencers. Iactually want you to track your
skincare routine, and that headof hair that you hide under that
hat is freaking wild.

It is Yeah.

You have found some sort of fountain of youth
and maybe it's just love,passion, purpose, and
persistence.

There you go. It's a superhuman framework,
ladies and gentlemen. Take yourmodel today.

Also, snappy hoodies. But what I've learned
in life is that sometimes, it'senough to say that your purpose
is simply because I love helpingpeople. Yeah. Because That's so

true purpose, by the way.

Yeah. But, like, it's simple. Right? It doesn't
have to have this, my purpose isto this, that, the other. Like,
I've seen workbooks dedicated topurpose and it's like, guys, by
the time I finish this workbookthat you're forcing people to
download so they'll watch yourdumb course and listen to your
dumb thing, I will be 75 by thetime I actually finish this

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workbook.
And by then, like, I've run outof a lot of years

to actually live my purpose.

Right? Yeah. It can be simple. It can just like
just grasping

onto these small

micro core and then allow your purpose to kind
of unveil itself. Your purposein defining it is both the act
of living your purpose and theact of discovering your purpose.
Just don't push yourself toohard. You don't have to have it

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all figured out. Like, for areally long time, my purpose was
just literally simply helppeople be honest as in health.
Like, that's it. Like, that thatwas it. Make content not suck.
And then as I started pullingback the layers, it becomes more
clear.

Yeah. And by the way and we can keep it to
what we're talking about today,but I would say with anything,
if you wait to do it until yougot it all figured out, first of
all, you ain't gonna do it. Andyou have to get comfortable with
just figuring it out along thejourney. That's why it's a
journey. You can't sit there inthe ship and look at the

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adventure ahead and think, yeah,but I don't necessarily have
this exactly down or right, andI'm not sure if I pack this or
the just start rowing.
Figure it out. Just, anyway.

I was able to figure out at least what I
believe mine to be now by askingmyself why three times. Well
Yes. Content shouldn't have tosuck. Why do you care about
that? Well, because there are alot of really smart people who
are hurting right now and can'taccomplish what they wanna
accomplish.
Why does that matter? Well, Imean, they're obviously really
smart. They have something to doin this world that makes them

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special. They are genuinelysolving real problems not
imaginable. Why do you care?
Right? So often, it's just amatter of stripping a layer,
stripping a layer, stripping alayer, and then at some point,
you just get to something reallysimple.

I'm looking something up because I'm pretty
sure it is an actual thing thatI heard in a book. It's either
the 6 or 7. I think it's 6. Butwhat you just did, Liz, you were
like, by asking why 3 times.There's, like, this framework
of, like, asking yourself why 6or 7 times to the answer that
you give for

or something like that. I

can't remember. I don't remember.
Anyway but here's the thing.Like and if by the way, if
you're listening to this so youknow, then email me and tell me
what it's called. But I'vewatched somebody do this to
somebody, like, not in a badway.
And about question 5, theyusually start crying because
they realize that they've goneso deep into a place that they

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haven't allowed themselves to gobefore that they're actually
mining the true gold of theirown humanness in that time?
Anyway okay. So which, by theway, it's almost like we're
digging in with this 6, 7 whysinto, like, the passion. Liz, do
you remember when you said Idon't know. It was on a podcast
episode we were doing whereyou're like, oh, it's almost
like these things are energy.

You mean, like, 10 minutes ago? Yes. Yeah. I do
remember. I happened to bethere.

And I said purpose, and I said force.
Right? What's funny is passion.Passion is the fuel for your
enthusiasm and energy. It's thefire inside that makes you
excited to tackle challenges, tocreate, to learn.
Passion is what makes hard workfeel like something you wanna do

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rather than something you haveto do. By the way, if you have
not unlocked the I get to versusI have to in your life, it might
be because you aren't reallyconnected to something that
you're truly passionate aboutbecause that little hack becomes
easy no matter what you're doingif it's hard because you're
like, oh, I get to do thisbecause I'm really passionate

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about like, picture a chef who'scompletely obsessed with food.
By the way, I have a son whowent to school to be a chef. So
we're picturing a chef who'scompletely obsessed with food.
They're not just cooking becausethey need to make a living.
They're doing it because theyabsolutely love the art of
creating something delicious. K?They love the art. In your life,

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listeners, what is the art thatyou're creating? What is the art
that you love?
What are you baking up in yourlife that's delicious? They'll
spend the chef will spend hoursexperimenting with new
ingredients or perfecting adish, not because they have to,
but because they genuinely arepassionate about the craft. The

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craft. Are you passionate aboutyour craft? The kind of passion
that not only drives theirsuccess, but also inspires
everyone around them.
Inspires everyone around them,whether it's their team in the
kitchen or the diners enjoyingthe meal. Right? Passion matters

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because it turns effort intoexcellence. I want you to ask
yourself, is the effort that I'mapplying coming out the other
side as excellence? You see,passion, it keeps you energized.
It keeps you curious. It keepsyou creative. And when you're
passionate about something,you're willing to go beyond the

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bare minimum, clock in, clockout, and and you're more willing
to strive for greatness,significance versus success.
Without passion, it's easy toburn out or lose interest over
time, but passion makes thejourney enjoyable, not just a
destination.

It reminds me of something I told somebody a long
time ago. You know, content,particularly in our industry,
and for those who only know usin the beyond your default
context, we are marketers. Weare in the inbound marketing
space. We are all about contentand education and all of these
different things. And I've giventalks about content, which is my

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specialty area.
And I talk about the fact that,you know, I had to get likable
real quick because my whole jobis to give people homework they
don't wanna do because whenpeople hear content, they're
like, is there some wizardthat's gonna do it for me? No.
Crap. And they start running.And that's because most people
don't wanna know how the sausagegets made when it comes to
content.
They just want the sausage toappear pre made, paste up, ready

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to go.

Poof. There it is.

For me, I am passionate about how the sausage
gets made. Yes. The craft, whathappens behind the curtain. And
what you're talking about thereis there has to be some level
of, you know, where I do my bestwork is the messy, where it all
comes together, this part of thecraft. I not only enjoy the
process, but I enjoy picking itapart.

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Now to be clear, when you havepassion for something, doesn't
mean that it always doesn't feellike work. To be clear, it
doesn't mean sometimes you findyourself screaming at the same
process that other people arescreaming at most of the time.
It just means that your why,your love, your reason the way
you're built. Like, maybethere's just no good reason

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other than the summary of yourexperiences, your natural
talents, and the skills thatyou've learned have made you
this perfect storm of I am builtfor this and it is built for me.
You don't have to question toodeeply about everything, guys.
But you have to have some levelof love affair with the sausage
getting made. Otherwise, it'salways gonna hurt.

Yeah. It's interesting because then you
talk about, otherwise, it'sgonna hurt. Hey. Listen. No
matter what, sometimes it'sgonna hurt, but you have to stay
persistent.
See, and that's why persistenceis in this set of 4
cornerstones. Persistence isyour ability to keep going when
the going gets tough. It's aboutresilience. That might be the

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3rd time you've heard this word.Right?
It's about grit. It's aboutdetermination. I like to say
that I've been blessed withbeing real stubborn and real
hard headed exactly when I needto be. Meaning, I am determined
to bust through the wall. I havegrit to keep on going.

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I'll make video to I there thereliterally was a day. I was like,
I'll make video tutorials forHubSpot until I end up on the
inbound main stage. Like, I willdo it till the day I die. Right?
Because it's this resilience.
It's this grit. It's thisdetermination. When you have
persistence, setbacks, theydon't stop you. Setbacks

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actually motivate you to find away forward. It's the refusal to
give up on your goals even whenthey look like they're
impossible, even when they getjust a little bit hard.
Let's go back to, theentrepreneur world for a second.
We'll we'll talk about peoplewho might be, I feel, some of

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the craziest human beings on theplanet. I can say this because I
kind of did this. We're gonnatake a startup founder. They
launch a new product, but in the1st year, they hit roadblocks.
Go figure. Lack of funding,technical failures, maybe even
negative feedback on the thingthat they're actually creating,
but they, as a human, believe intheir vision. So guess what?

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They persist. They pivot,adjust, and they keep pushing
forward until they finally findthe right market fit.
Persistence is the reason theydidn't give up after the first
setback. Persistence is thereason that their startup
eventually succeeds. So why doespersistence matter? Because it's

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the key to long term success.I'll put it this way for me.
It's the key to long termsignificance. Every goal that
you set that's worthwhile, it'sgonna face challenges. It's just
a given. That's life. Andwithout persistence, it's easy
to give up when things getdifficult.

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But when you're persistent, youdevelop the ability to I hope
everybody has their notes ready.When you're persistent, you
develop the ability to adapt, togrow, and to overcome. Can you
sit here today listening to thispodcast and say that you have
built yourself into the type ofhuman who can adapt, grow, and

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overcome? Persistence turnsobstacles into learning
opportunities, not failures. Itmakes success possible even when
the road is maybe half washedaway, 30,000 potholes.
There's an actual big boulder inthe way, but you go around it
because you're persistent.

You know what is interesting? You said to be
persistent gives you theabilities to adapt, grow, and
overcome, and I was thinkingabout this from a visual
perspective. Someone who ispersistent recognizes that the
ground under your feet isvariable. Sometimes you will be
uphill. Sometimes it will bedownhill.
Sometimes you will have to climbover things. Sometimes you will

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have to go around things. Andsomeone who maybe lacks that
grit, lacks that persistence,has an unrealistic expectation
that their path will be cleareven and free from any
obstacles. And that's just nothow it works.

It's not reality, ladies and gentlemen.

But on the flip side of that, what is
interesting about persistence isthat persistence does not have a
prerequisite of needing to rest,of being a human being who
experiences very human emotions.Go back and listen to our toxic
positivity episode. One of thethings that we talk about is,
like, sometimes stuff sucks andsometimes it's fine to be quote
unquote not productive and justsay, you know what? We're just

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gonna let it suck for a minute.We're just gonna have the human
experience of disappointment ofwhatever it is that we're
feeling before we pick ourselvesback up and keep moving.
Persistence does not require youto literally be a superhuman, to
be immune to the humanexperience, to be immune to the
emotional complexities of thewhat it means to be a human

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being. Yeah. It just means thatyou do not have an expectation
that your path will be clearedfor you.

Well and see what we have to remember too,
and we'll dive a little bit intothis, is that persistence is
paired with healthy. I wanteverybody to understand what I
just did because it's vitallyimportant with this superhuman
framework. The persistence couldlead somebody to feel like, oh,
you mean I'm a workaholic and Iburn myself out? No. Because

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persistence is paired withhealthy.
Persistence is paired withhungry and healthy. Now you have
a healthy hustle because you'rehungry about the thing that
you're passionate about becauseyou love the people that need
the thing that you're actuallyhave the purpose for. Oh,
anyway.

I absolutely love that. Again, it is this these
are things where thecircumstances in which our
persistence is tested cansometimes be harder than we
expect them to be, but it iseasier for us to overcome hard
things if we learn how to justsit and move through
uncomfortable feelings. It is agenuine superpower.

Without a doubt.

Keep going. What do we got? Because we got one
more, don't we?

No. No. We actually went through those 4.

But I want it.

I know you want more.

One up?

No. There's only 4 cornerstones. There's
only 4.

Interesting, George. I was sitting here
looking through my notes. And,you know, you're my favorite
human, but you're also myfavorite lab experiment for what
I do. As I was sitting herelooking, thinking about how the
4 cornerstones apply to me, andthen I immediately went, no.
That's that we're not doing thatin public.
So let me think about Georgeinstead. You know what I
couldn't help but notice? Youbecame the teacher you needed. I

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there's this

I am one self taught dude. But yes. No.
Exactly.

No. Meaning, you go back to the in a in a
contextually relevant way. Thatstory of what happened to you in
9th grade, where you were toldyou could not amount to
anything. You have become whatevery teacher should be. Someone
who not only is self educatedand self taught, but somebody
who looks across the table andsays, I believe in you.
Because you know how importantit is not only to have a teacher

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who understands the knowledgethey need to teach you, but they
need to look across the table atyou and believe you can do it no
matter where you're startingfrom. And that's who you became.

I'm trying to keep it together, Liz. But, yes,
that is who I have built myselfinto. That is how I wanna show
up into to the world. And theinteresting little period or
exclamation mark I'll put onwhat you just said is every time
I look across the Zoom window,every time I look out into the
stage, every time I get on apodcast episode, I feel like I'm

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looking at me as a 9th grader.And how do I wish somebody would
have interacted?
How do I wish somebody wouldhave educated me? How do I wish
somebody would have loved on meat that moment in time? And I
think this is why, originally,when we were talking before we
did the love episode is thatthat became this core thing of,
like, everything is from a placeof love, like, a wishing and a

(51:41):
giving of love. And so it's justwhy I'm so passionate about
bringing all of this to theworld no matter if it's one
listener, a 100 listeners, or a1000000 listeners because
sometimes we have people don'tbelieve in us, and sometimes we
don't even believe in ourselves,but I wanna be that guy that
believes in everybody.

Well, George, I'm only sitting here a year later
the way I am able to have theseconversations of myself of, oh,
I get to build my life becauseyou believed in me. Last year
was the darkest year I think Ihave ever walked through. And
there were mornings where I wokeup, and I'm like, it is really
hard to believe in me. But I'mlike, George is still here, that
crazy son

of a bitch. God knows what he's doing. If if
he can believe

in me, I can do it.

Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes that's all we
need. Right? We just need alittle, like, it's funny.
I'm gonna be a real old school,old fart. Like, do you remember
the commercials? My buddy andme. Like, I just wanna be
somebody's buddy. Like, I wannaleave them better than I found
them.
I wanna help them get to thenext step of where they can take

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the journey themselves.

No. It's it's the same thing of why I love what I
do. Like, we've talked aboutwhole ass humans and the things
that underpin my fourcornerstones. Right? My love, my
passion, my persistence, all ofthese different things is
because when I look across thetable, all I ever see is a whole
ass human in a world tellingthem to stop.
And often, people really startstepping into their power when

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they work with me, when theyunderstand I am a permission
slip. I am a permissionstructure. I will tell them if
they ever hit the assholeguardrails, and I'll be like,
woah. Woah. Hold on.

You officially arrived at douchebag. Yeah.
Yeah.

Don't do that. But that's where work gets really
exciting because, you know, Ispent 40 years, like, being a
little human lab experimenttrying to be the people
pleasing. Well, maybe if I dothis, maybe if I contort myself
like that. Guys, it doesn'twork. We have all these life
rules, and it's like, it just itdoesn't work.

Yeah.

But that's why this conversation today, I
think, matters so much. Becausewhen you start tapping into
these four cornerstones, theseconversations suddenly make the
decisions that you make acrossthe 10 pillars, how you tap into
your humanity, what is yourrelationship with humor, like

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all of these different things.It casts everything in a
different life. It helps makecertain decisions easier. But
what I will say, George, goinginto the end of this discussion,
and I say this as someone whodoes this work literally for a
living.

Yeah.

I see how they all work together. Right? This
relationship between our 4cornerstones and these 10
pillars. But it is a lot to keeptrack of. It is 14 different
items.
Fourteen different items. It's alot. So how would you suggest
someone who feels both inspiredby what we've been talking about
today, but also overwhelmed bythe superhuman framework

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approach to integrating theseelements into their life? Where
where's the first step? How dothey get their hands on this?

Yeah. The first step is just take a
breath. Relax for a hot second.Okay? Just take a breath.
But, Liz, I I totally get whereyou're coming from. When you
first look at the superhumanframework with its, again, 10
pillars and the 4 cornerstones,it can definitely seem like a
lot to take in inspiring. Like,I have the unfair advantage of,
like, I've collected it alongthe way. You might be sitting

(55:05):
here feeling like, where do Istart? I'll I'll say this and
hopefully this will help.
You do not have to integrateeverything all at once. It's not
like, great. Now I have to applyall 14 of these things to my
life. No. The best way toapproach the framework is to see
it as a guiding map, not achecklist.

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This is not a freakingchecklist. It gauges, compass,
map, whatever you wanna use, butnever ever checklist. You're not
expected to live out everypillar and every cornerstone
perfectly every single day.Like, that's not the purpose.
Instead, Liz and listeners, Iwant you to think of it as a

(55:52):
process.
I want you to think of it as,oh, I don't know. Maybe I'll use
the word journey since this iswhat we pretty much talk about
every time we're on the mic.When you focus on one piece at a
time and then build from there,if you're feeling both inspired
and overwhelmed, my advice is tostart by asking yourself a
question. Take a breath and aska question. And the question is,

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which one of the 4 cornerstonesspeaks to me right now?
Only you can answer that. But doyou feel like you're craving
more purpose in your life? Maybeyou're already passionate about
something, but you're strugglingwith persistence. Or perhaps you
know you need to bring more loveinto what you do or how you

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connect with others. You see, byanswering that question and by
identifying one cornerstone thatfeels the most relevant to where
you are right now, you giveyourself a focused starting
point with that cornerstone.
Then once you have that anchor,that cornerstone, you can begin

(56:57):
layering in 1 or 2. Listen to mefor a second. Layer in 1 or 2. I
didn't say layer in 10. 1 or 2of the 10 h's that naturally
support that cornerstone.
So let's say purpose is yourstarting point. You might decide
to pair that with a pillar ofhungry, keeping that curiosity

(57:21):
and drive to learn and grow, andmaybe you add health because,
let's face it, staying physicaland mentally, healthy is key to
pursuing any kind of purposelong term. The idea isn't to try
to master all 14 elements atonce. It's it's about small,
meaningful steps. And if you'velistened to this podcast for any

(57:42):
length of time, you've heard mesay this.
When I say it's about small,meaningful steps, it's because
you're living with a philosophyin life of 1% better each and
every You're not trying to leapthe Grand Canyon, 14 things.
You're just taking a step acrossthe room, 1% better each and

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every day. So pick acornerstone. Choose a couple of
the pillars that align with itand focus on developing those in
your daily life. Once you feelcomfortable, guess what?
You can build on it and you addmore pillars or cornerstones as
you go. And, Liz and listeners,here's a simple way to think

(58:24):
about it. Imagine I don't knowhow many of you actually will
have to imagine this. Imaginesomeone who feels really
disconnected at work. They'renot passionate about what
they're doing, and they'restruggling with motivation.
Maybe they start with thecornerstone of purpose, which,
by the way, I'm cheating becauseI know a lot people feel like

(58:48):
they're stuck in a job, thatthey're just a job, and they're
just clocking in and clockingout. And it affects the teams,
and it affects the companyculture, and there's
1,000,000,000 of dollars beinglost because somebody doesn't
feel connected at work. Anyway,so maybe you start with the
cornerstone of purpose. Youspend time reflecting on what
really matters to you and howyou can bring more purpose into

(59:11):
your job, or you might decideit's time to pivot to something
more meaningful. I'm not on thispodcast telling you to quit your
job.
I'm telling you to think aboutthe conversation we're having
and and this example that we'reusing that you might be
connecting with or notconnecting with, but it might be
time to pivot to something moremeaningful. As you or they, if

(59:36):
we're using a hypothetical,example here, explore purpose,
you can focus on honesty, whichis one of the 10 h's, by the
way. Because to be truthful withyourself about what's working
and what's not might be a keypillar in this conversation that
we're having. You see, you canthen pair it with health, so

(01:00:00):
honesty and health, to make surethat you're not burning yourself
out during the process of tryingto decide if where you're at and
what you're doing is actuallyright for your life. By focusing
on just a few of these elementsat first, they or you, if you're
connecting with us, are able tomake real progress without

(01:00:22):
feeling overwhelmed.
So how cool is it that these allwork together as a modular
selections you can choosedepending on what part of life
you're trying to deal with? But,Liz, I also wanna emphasize that
living by the superhumanframework is not about
perfection. It's about practice.You're gonna have days where you

(01:00:45):
feel really connected to yourpassion, your purpose, or
health, and then days wherethings just feel out of sync.
I'm I'm here to tell you thatthat's totally okay.
It's okay. The the goal is touse these elements as tools to
guide you through your growthrather than to see them as rigid

(01:01:06):
rules that one must follow.Ultimately, my advice to anyone
wanting to use a superhumanframework in their life is to
start small, stay curious, andlet the framework unfold
naturally over time. You don'tneed to have it all figured out
right away. Just focus on whatresonates and slowly build from

(01:01:30):
there.
Liz, does that approach helpbreak it down a bit versus it
feeling so overwhelming?

Liz Moorhead (01:01:38):
Yeah. It was interesting. As I was sitting
here listening to you, I took acouple notes here. And the thing
that jumped out at me is, youknow, when you want to bake a
cake, you don't throw in all theingredients at once. You don't
take every ingredient that is onyour ingredient list and just go
to town.
You take time to do your wetingredients. You take time to do
your dry ingredients, then youintegrate them at particular

(01:02:00):
intervals. There are things thatgo in right as you are
assembling things for the firsttime. There are ingredients that
only should be brought in onceall of your dry and wet
ingredients are broughttogether. There you don't
decorate your cake before itgoes in the oven.
In fact, it goes in the oven,and then it needs to sit on a
rack and then cool. You are whenI think about this structure

(01:02:24):
that you're talking about,again, we have this false notion
in our heads often reinforced bya really toxic approach of what
it means to have a growthmindset that you have to
accomplish everything all atonce and that there is a
particular blueprint for whereyou should start. Right? For
example, let's pretend we're allclimbing up the same mountain,

(01:02:46):
but we may be all starting atdifferent base camps based on
what our different experiencesare. You know, you may have,
like, what you love reallyunlock.
Or it may be somewhere else.What I love about the

George B. Thomas (01:02:59):
way you've structured that, George, is that

what really comes down to is understanding this is
we call it a journey not becauseit's hokey or it's a good bit of
imagery for growth mindedpeople. It's because that's what
this is. And sometimes in orderto understand what your path is,
you actually have to just walkit and it will be revealed to

(01:03:21):
you. And in some cases, youactually need to sit there and
figure out, okay, wait a minute.There are 5 paths.
I gotta pick 1. In some cases,you are the architect of your
journey. In some cases, you arethe journeyman letting it be
revealed to you. And it's justthis flexibility and fluidity
that quite frankly, like,sometimes you're gonna get it
right. Sometimes you're gonnaget it wrong.
You don't have to be perfect atthis, and that's okay. It's all

(01:03:44):
part of it. George, I wannathrow out there. This is my one
thing I want listeners to takeaway, and then I'd like to hear
yours, if you don't mind. Yeah.
One thing I would like listenersto take away from this episode
is that if your actions like, ifyou've been listening to the pot
this podcast for any length oftime or maybe you're new to it.
Right? We talked about thepillars of the superhuman

(01:04:05):
framework. Like, how we hustle,how we are hungry in our lives,
how we demonstrate and showhumility. Do we have a healthy
relationship with humor?
Is it something that we use todeflect or potentially wound?
You know, what is our level ofintegrity with ourselves and
others? Often, thoseconversations become more
fraught, more confusing, moredeluminating rather than

(01:04:27):
illuminating

when

we haven't had the conversations about, well, why
are we here? What do we lovedoing? And the best part is that
unless the answer is kickingpuppies or something like that,
like your why, there are nowrong answers. You know, what is
easy to you is magic to otherpeople, and what you define as
magic in your own life, that isentirely up to you. You are the
only one who has to wake up inthe morning and be fulfilled.

(01:04:52):
And your purpose, no matter howsmall you think it is, is not
small. So just remember that thethe whole point of this
conversation is to help youunderstand that when you start
thinking about what is it thatI'm really doing and why, it's
because your time and yourenergy and you are worth it.

I love this that you're I I love that your
time and energy are worth it.Immediately, my mind goes to the
ripples. The thing is I can'twait to see the ripples that
people will see in their ownlives based on this massive set
of 4 cornerstones, big rocksthat we've, dropped on them

(01:05:28):
today. And and, Liz, it's funnybecause you you you mentioned
the cake thing. I gotta behonest with you for one second,
side tangent.
I'm more of a cheesecake guy. Soif you could use a cheesecake
analogy in one of the futureepisodes, that would be super
dope. I'm sure you'll be able todo it. Cheesecake is a cake, so

we can this will get diverse. You know?

Yeah. It kind of is a cake. Maybe you're
right. But here's here's thething. Whether it's cheesecake
or cake, let's be honest, folks,it's yummy.
I would want you to ponder afterthis episode and be like, is my
life delicious? Am I am I doingthings the way that they need to
be done? I I'm almost gonnachallenge the listeners, and
it's gonna sound weird, buthopefully, you'll understand

(01:06:08):
what I mean by this. What cakeof life are you ready to bake?
If today was the starting pointbased on this conversation, what
cake of life are you ready tobake?
As you move forward on yourjourney towards living a life
beyond your default, becausethat's why we're here, it's
literally the name of thepodcast, I want you to ask

(01:06:29):
yourself what ingredients areyou bringing to the table? Liz
mentioned dry ingredients, wetingredients, but what what are
you bringing to the table? Whath pillars? What cornerstones?
What ingredients are youbringing to this cake of life
that you're gonna bake?
What's the recipe for the lifeyou truly wanna create? See, you

(01:06:50):
have to have an understandingand a belief that you can
actually create that life. Andhopefully, you're getting to
that point. But you have to askthe question, what recipe, what
cake, what life do I wannacreate? Listen, whether it's
love, purpose, passion, orpersistence, remember this if
you don't remember anything elsefrom this episode.

(01:07:13):
You're the baker, and the lifeyou want is yours to design. So
what cake of life are you readyto bake? The journey starts now.
One step, one ingredient at atime as you build a life beyond
your default.

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