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George B. Thomas (00:03):
Being human in the superhuman framework is all
about. And, again, I asked youto jot words down so that you
would see patterns. And when yousee patterns, you'll realize
what I meant by their bricksthat layer on top of each other.
But being human in thesuperhuman framework is about
authenticity. It's aboutvulnerability, and it's about

(00:25):
embracing our true selves.
You've heard us talk about beinga whole ass human previously on
this podcast. It's abouthonesty. Interesting. Showing
our strengths and our weaknessesand connecting deeply with other
humans who they realize they mayhave strengths and weaknesses
either same or different than usas well. Authenticity and

(00:48):
vulnerability, by the way ofbeing human help us build deep,
meaningful connections, and theyfoster supportive communities.
That community could be yourfamily. That community could be
broader than that. Thatcommunity could be that you have
500,000 followers or a1000000000 followers. But being
human, your whole ass selfauthentic and vulnerable with

(01:12):
your strengths and weaknesses iswhat unlocks that superpower.

Liz Moorehead (01:19):
Welcome back to Beyond Your Default. I'm your
host, Liz Morehead. As always, Iam joined by the one, the only,
the man, the myth, the legend,George b Thomas, who's already
jamming out on the mic to someinvisible music.

George B. Thomas (01:30):
Yeah. I'm super excited. The fact that
we're gonna give birth tosomething that I pseudo tried to
create, but has been behindlocked doors for multiple years,
and now we're bringing it tolight. We're gonna talk about
it. I know this is the beginningof something for this, and so

(01:50):
I'm super excited to have thisconversation.
And, also, the other side ofthis is I've wanted to create
this and get it out because Ithink it's a thing that will
help the humans on this journeyof a life beyond their default
in, like, micro milestones. Idon't even know if those two
words are supposed to gotogether, but I'm gonna call a

(02:11):
micromilestones in one's life.

Liz Moorehead (02:13):
I love that. Well, before we dig into it
first, what was your low lightand highlight from the weekend?

George B. Thomas (02:18):
Let's just say the low light is I didn't get
much work done. Although thehighlight is I didn't get much
work done because, yeah, becausethe highlight was its Father's
Day. I mean, come on. It's funnywhat happened in this situation
because I kept getting asked,what do you wanna do? What do
you wanna do?
What do you wanna do? And I keptsaying, I don't know. I don't
know. I don't know. And so whenthe rubber had to meet the road,

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I got asked, what do you wannado?
To which I asked myself, well,self, what would the family
wanna do? And so I said, hey.Why don't we go to Dave and
Buster's and play games and eatsome food? And so for Father's
Day, we went to Dave andBuster's, and we ate some food,
and we played some games. Yeah.
Other than that, during theweekend, I also spent a copious
amount of times in the pool. Notmy pool, my friend's pool. I

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don't have a pool. I'm not thatguy yet, but I will someday
probably. And I love to swim, sothere was, like, a lot of fish
moments.
There's a lot of playing videogames. So all in all, the
highlight was just spending timewith family and friends and
enjoying life. And, again, whichled to the low light of, I
didn't get much work done on theweekend.

Liz Moorehead (03:22):
I'm not gonna call that a low light. I think
you're allowed to have a weekendevery once in

George B. Thomas (03:25):
a while, and it's just Every now and then.
Just every now and then.

Liz Moorehead (03:28):
Now and then. Every now and then. I'll start
with my low light. So you knowthat old saying there's no such
thing as bad pizza?

George B. Thomas (03:34):
Incorrect. Until it's moldy.

Liz Moorehead (03:35):
Well, okay. So it wasn't rotten. It was pizza that
could not decide what kind ofpizza it was. It was neither
thin crust or normal crust. Iwas offended.
I had bad pizza this weekend.

George B. Thomas (03:46):
Wow.

Liz Moorehead (03:46):
Like, I was morally offended. It's kinda
hard to do. I know. You know,and the worst part was it was in
New Haven, which is a town knownfor its pizza. So maybe I just
caught the chef on a bad day.
Maybe this pizza pie maker hadjust gotten dumped, and he was
taking all of his aggression andsadness out on a poor pile of
dough. All I have to say is I'mnot gonna name names. I'm not

(04:07):
gonna name where it happened,but it it hurt my soul.

George B. Thomas (04:10):
So if there if anybody's listening in New
Haven, just be careful.

Liz Moorehead (04:14):
Be careful out there, man. It's wild. It's
wild. So the highlight, you andI talked last week about how the
newsletter that I write forbeyond your default, beyond your
default dot com forward slashnewsletter

George B. Thomas (04:24):
Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (04:25):
Has undergone some radical shifts. I'm getting
more clear about my writing. I'mgetting more aggressive about
the message. And I've alsostarted publishing it as videos
on TikTok, and I'm doing a lotof different things. And within
an hour yesterday, as I wasdriving back to Maryland from
New Haven, I got 3 differentmessages.
1st, from a friend of mine viatext that said, every email you

(04:46):
send is a personal attack.Please don't stop. Then somebody
wrote to me, this felt likewatching a movie to me. Exactly
what I needed to hear, and youare an extremely talented
writer, and I hope to hear moreof your writings in the future.
And then another one.
I came here to find out what theobscure movie trivia was. I also
do obscure movie trivia. Yeah.And instead, got a message from

(05:07):
the universe that it has beenbegging me to hear. Thank you.

George B. Thomas (05:10):
Oh, that's good.

Liz Moorehead (05:12):
So it's one of those things where as a writer
and you know this, George, as acontent creator. When you're
actually in the act of creatingsomething that is really flowing
out of you, it feels amazing.

George B. Thomas (05:22):
Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (05:22):
Then when you actually send it out and you go
back and either reread what youwrote or rewatch what you made,
you're, like, do I just soundlike a crazy person?

George B. Thomas (05:31):
Or makes you wanna vomit.

Liz Moorehead (05:32):
You're like, oh, I'm gonna be like, yeah. Yeah.
Exactly. So it was just reallynice, and I've been continuing
to get, like, text messages frompeople. I woke up to an email
this morning from someone thatjust said, ouch.
That's a compliment. Love it.I'm gonna take that as my
highlight, because it has beenan immensely rewarding thing to

(05:53):
be able to write that newslettereach week, sometimes multiple
times a week if I'm feelingextra spicy. But I would like to
put that out there as atestament to you have to do
things that are raw andcompletely scare you in order to
make an impact.

George B. Thomas (06:08):
So here's what I love about that, Liz, is that
for years years years, I'vealways had this saying that I've
talked to people. I said,listen. Listen. God is gonna
shape you with hammers andchisels and saws, not tissue
paper and toilet paper. And thefact that you and I can be one
of the hammers, the chisels, orthe saws that God is using to,

(06:31):
like, impact these people'slives, it like, this is the
purpose or one of the purposesthat I was like, I wanna put
this into the world.
I wanna make sure that we'redoing this thing so people do
have those, like, ouch. That's acompliment moment in their
lives. Mhmm. Because that's whengrowth happens. Like, that's

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when the seed gets germinated,and now it just needs water and
sunshine and a little bit oflife's manure to give it just
like oof.
The Life's manure. Yeah. Listen.Think about that. Right?
If you think about how yougarden, you needed to have
sunshine, you needed to haverain, and you you gotta add a

(07:13):
little compost to it. Mhmm. Lifewill give you the compost. Trust
me. But it's what you can growout of that that is the magic
part of what we're doing.
So I'm super excited to hear allof those things.

Liz Moorehead (07:25):
Yes. I am excited. But you know what I'm
mostly excited about? To get tothis framework that you've been
teasing, but I want to set thestage a little bit for our
listeners because over the past,if you can believe it, 41
episodes, George. This is our42nd episode.

George B. Thomas (07:37):
I love it.

Liz Moorehead (07:38):
I know. We've excavated deeply personal topics
that make up what it means tohave the human experience.
Relationships, fear,forgiveness, anger, morning
routines, self care, which Iknow is now your favorite.

George B. Thomas (07:51):
It is. Still Yeah. I know. Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (07:53):
You're here. Welcome.

George B. Thomas (07:54):
Welcome to

Liz Moorehead (07:54):
the self care club.

George B. Thomas (07:55):
I'm here for now.

Liz Moorehead (07:55):
Stillness, our perception of time. I could go
on. But this week, we're goingto zoom out because I want our
listeners right now to thinkabout your life that you're
building. Like, you're buildinga home and you have the ability
and privilege to build anddesign this home in a way that
is perfectly suited for you,which is much of the thesis

(08:16):
behind the conversations wehave. Right?
Whether we're talking aboutforgiveness or relationships,
how those show up in our livesare completely unique to us.
Right? Now how I would design myhouse, George, is I would love
to put in rich textures, exposedbrick. I love cozy nooks and
deep dark colors and kind ofintense eclectic artwork, but

(08:37):
you might prefer well, actually,maybe you might not
specifically, but a girlfriendof mine.

George B. Thomas (08:41):
Like, I can I can tell you that it's gonna be,
babe, do you like that? Sweet.That's how it's decorated. Mine
is real easy. Just, babe, ifthat's what you like and I have
a place to sit down, we're good.

Liz Moorehead (08:53):
That's so fun. My friend, she would be totally
different from mine as well,although very specific. She
wants her home to look like itfell out of a Nancy Meyers 19
nineties rom com movie. Maybe ifyou're listening to this, you're
more modern. You're moreminimalist.
It doesn't really matter. Thereality is is that we all work
to define what our beyond yourdefault home looks like for

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ourselves through our uniqueapproaches to relationships, our
dreams, how we navigate ouremotions, all that good stuff.
But we need to remember that allstrong houses, no matter how
different they are, all possessmany of the same foundational
elements and attributes thatmake them safe, structural, and
functional. A roof, strongwalls, floors, all of those

(09:35):
really important elements. AC,plumbing, all of the things that
take it from a slab of bricksand concrete and drywall to a
functional place to live.
So today, we're gonna take alook at your superhuman
framework, the blueprints, thefoundational elements, if you
will, that will help all of usbuild our beyond your default

(09:57):
house within life.

George B. Thomas (09:58):
So,

Liz Moorehead (09:58):
George, this framework is not new. I had such
a blast digging through thisdocument that you shared with
me, but then I saw the date.Yeah. You thought I wasn't I I
was surprised you didn't deletethis before it got

George B. Thomas (10:09):
to me. Like, crap.

Liz Moorehead (10:11):
Yeah. Did you see the first question? Sir, you
wrote this on May 26, 2020, notonly 4 years ago, but during the
height of the pandemic. Yeah.Where did this come from?

George B. Thomas (10:24):
Well, I mean, let's be honest. The state of
the world at that time and themindset of humans was
definitely, like, a precipiceof, like, like, humans need
love, and how can I deliver thisto them? The other thing too, if
if I rewind a little bit, like,for all the years that I've been

(10:45):
doing, I think 2014 is when Iwould, like, put the flag in the
ground that I started creatingHubSpot specific tutorials. And
at the end of each of my videosor to because I did more than
just tutorial videos. But at theend of the videos, I would end
with, and don't forget to be ahappy, helpful, humble human.

(11:07):
And I was reminding thecommunity how I wanted them to
show up. But a little hiddensecret is, and maybe more
importantly, is that on a daily,if not multiple times a day when
I was releasing these videos, Iwas reminding myself how I
wanted to show up. I wanted toshow up as a happy, helpful,

(11:27):
humble human. And here's thething. Every one of those words
comes from something thathistorically happened to me.
Right? So, like, when we thinkabout humble, you can go back
and listen to the episode whereI talk about my motorcycle
accident because I allowed egoto get in the way. When you talk
about being human, you can goback to the thing that I was,

(11:49):
like, immediately drawn intoHubSpot because of being a
recovering youth pastor, becauseof working at a bar, because of
this life that I've had andunderstanding humans at
different levels and layers oflife financially, spiritually,
emotionally, just seeing thebroad spectrum and realizing,
man, it is really about beinghuman and showing up as our

(12:11):
authentic self. And thenhelpful, I mean, in my core,
it's like it's aboutservanthood. Happy like, I'm a
happy go lucky guy.
Like, I've been blessed withthat in my life. So then I
realized in 2020 and watchingeverything that was going around
me that there was probably waysthat I could impact how I showed
up past happy, helpful, humble,human. And so during the

(12:36):
pandemic, by the way, Liz, iswhen I lost £79. Everybody else
was talking about gaining, like,the freshman 15 again when this
was happening. I lost £79because I was also focused on
the healthy word, so it cameinto play.
And I was eating healthy. I waswalking 3 times a day. Like, I
just was in this mode. And soall of a sudden, it was happy,

(12:58):
helpful, humble, human, buthealthy human. And I didn't
change the outros to my videos,by the way.
I didn't add that word in there.It was still happy, helpful,
humble, human, but I personallywas focused on healthy. And then
I started to think about howthis was becoming like, wow.
This is basically like aholistic way of thinking or

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living. And I'm like, well,shoot.
I should probably add that wordin because we should be looking
at, like, everything across theboard and having a holistic view
of what's going on in our life.And and so I started to think
about, okay. Well, what otherways could I make my life better
if I had these levers or buttonsor things that I could start to

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pay attention to. And whathistorically has been in my life
that I can either tweak for thebetter or pay attention to when
it's, like, noise or nonsenseand actually use it for good
versus evil. And that's whenhungry and by the way, I'm not
talking about, like, eat somefood hungry.

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Like, hungry, like, you gottahave a fire in your belly. Like,
let's hustle. Let's have somework ethic. That kinda hungry.
But hustle in obviously abalanced way, which we've talked
about that on this podcast aswell.
But, you know, I've always hadthis, like, I wanna do
something. I wanna be something.I'm not like, let's go. And so
hungry and then humorousbecause, I mean, listen. I was a

(14:24):
class clown, and that's why mymath teacher told me I never
amount to anything.
And that's been the fire in mybelly to actually give me that
hustle. And then honest, youknow, I've always been taught.
It's like, hey. You show up asan honest human. And then I
would say the last one which wetouch here and there on this
podcast, but we're trying not tomake it overly too abundant.

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So it's like a light spread ofbutter or peanut butter,
whichever you like best, is theholiness, right, or the
spiritual or religious side ofthese conversations. So,
literally, it it became this,like, level up for who I am and
who I wanna show up as. And,again, we've kind of we've
talked about this differentelements of this, which by the

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way, as we are digging in thissuperhuman framework, I'm like,
oh, oh, oh, oh, we need to doepisodes on this, this, and
this. Like, just listeners knowthat there's some future
episodes coming out of this. Butall these ages put together from
my past and who I am and how Iwanted to show up and the things
that I knew I wanted to getbetter at, we we basically came
up with 10 elements, allstarting with h, to be this

(15:32):
superhuman framework that we canpay attention to and roll with
as we move forward in life.

Liz Moorehead (15:38):
Wow.

George B. Thomas (15:39):
That's the background story.

Liz Moorehead (15:41):
Right. So when I was in the pandemic, I just
spent a lot of time watching thegodfather on repeat. I didn't
make a superhuman framework, butthat's fine.

George B. Thomas (15:47):
That's fine. Well but the thing, I made it,
but it never got launched. Sobut

Liz Moorehead (15:52):
Well, it's getting launched today. That's
why we're here. So, George,before we go into each one, I do
want to ask you a quickquestion. At a high level, how
did you choose each of these tobe the pillars of the superhuman
framework? And what is theresult of them and how they all
work together?

George B. Thomas (16:10):
Yeah. And, again, kinda going back to my,
like, intro answer, I pickedthem in the fact that they were
probably one of 3 things. 1,something that historically I
had in me, but knew that Iwanted to grow to be better. By
the way, based off of somethingthat I heard on the internets

(16:33):
that I pseudo didn't agree with,I don't think I've ever shared
this, by the way. But I heardGary v talking about, like,
doubling down on what you'regood at and forgetting about
what you're not good at, like,ignoring it almost.
And I think he's even changedhis tune on this over the past,
like, years. But I was like,nah. I don't necessarily agree

(16:56):
with that. So, like, I actuallywanna get better at what I'm
good at, and I wanna get betterat my weak points too. I don't
want to have, like, a right armthat has, like, you know,
massive bicep, and then my leftarm looks like it's like a
stick.
Like, why would I do that? So Iwanna grow everything. And so
there are things that were in methat I knew I wanted to grow, or

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there were things that I wantedto input into me that weren't
there, but I wanted to havealong the way. And then there
were just some other things thatI knew fundamentally. It was
like, and this would just makeyou a better human.
And you, like, you can literallycorrelate those to, like, the
honesty, the holiness, thehealthy. Like, those 3 I don't

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care who you are. Those 3 couldjust be a layer. But here's the
thing. They all do kind of stackon each other.
So think about, like, you'rebuilding a wall. I mean,
obviously, it's called aframework, but you're building
this wall of, like, if you thinkabout them, right, one begets
the other. So, like, if you'rehungry and you've got some

(18:03):
hustle, you're gonna be able tobuild something. And while
you're building something,you're gonna be helping others.
And when you're helping others,that's gonna make you happy, and
that's gonna make them happy.
You're gonna reach a place inlife where you realize, like,
man, I'm humbled by where I'mat, and maybe I just should show
up as a humble person becauseI'm a blessing bomber, because

(18:25):
I've had this hustle thatcreated this thing that helped
people that I'm happy. It'sgonna make life easier. You're
gonna be in a different place.You're actually gonna be able to
spend time on your health.You're probably gonna be,
somewhat humorous or understandhow to use humor because as you
built this thing that washelping people because you had
that hustle, now all of a suddenyou've built a community and

(18:47):
relationships and you've beendoing communication.
Now all of a sudden, we've gotenough of these where it's like
this holistic view. By the way,you've probably been showing up
as a human the whole entiretime. Otherwise, you haven't
gotten this far. I I don't needto go the rest of the way, but
you you see how they kind ofjust build on each other to
become this, like, really firmframework. And by the way, this

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is gonna impact the laterquestion that I know because I
peaked that you're gonna ask me.
Like, when you grow in 1, it'shard not to have grown in
another. Like, that's how thesework together. For instance, if
I do something that I'm like,I'm gonna grow my spirituality
or religion side, Most likely,it's gonna impact 1 or 2 of the

(19:34):
other things that are inside ofthis framework. And so you don't
have to get discouraged and,like, oh, crap. Now I've got 10
things that no.
No. No. It's like when you pullone lever, you're, like,
bringing 2 or 3 things up to thenext level with it. So that's
why this was kind of picked andhow they work together. So,
hopefully, people find value inthat.

Liz Moorehead (19:53):
Well, let's dig in. Let's start with happiness.

George B. Thomas (19:55):
Let's

Liz Moorehead (19:56):
Talk to me about it.

George B. Thomas (19:57):
So and, again, these are all kind of based on
the framework. So when we thinkabout happiness pertaining to
the superhuman framework, it'sabout finding joy. And by the
way, get your notepad, your pen,your iPad out because, again, I
want you to mark these wordsdown that impact your brain. But
superhuman framework aroundhappiness is about finding joy,

(20:18):
gratitude, and a positiveoutlook on life, and it means
approaching both the micro andmacro moments. So, again, the
color of the leaves, the feel ofthe breeze, you know, watching
your dog run and play in thepark, or the macro moments of
life where it's bought a newcar, bought a new house, your

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daughter got married, whatwhatever it is for you, but then
sharing the positivity of thosemoments with others along the
way.
And when you can focus onhappiness, it helps create a
positive mindset that drivespersonal and professional growth
along the way. And by embracingthings like joy, we can better
handle stress, which by the way,many of us can use something

(21:04):
that helps against stress,that's the joy in one's life.
Overcome challenges, which Idon't care how hard you try.
There's always gonna be newchallenges that are gonna come
your way, and truly enjoy theachievements in our life and
feel good about them and givethem time to marinate and be
there as these celebratorymoments. So that's what I think

(21:27):
about when it comes to happinessinside the framework.

Liz Moorehead (21:31):
How hard do you struggle with that, George?

George B. Thomas (21:33):
This one's relatively easy for me. Like, I
just feel like I find great joyin life itself. Like, here's how
micro I've gotten about this. Iwoke up today. Alright.
That's my immediate thinking.Right? Or, like, I have running
water. Alright. I have money to,like, pay rent this month.

(21:57):
Alright. You know, I employ mychildren. I employ my wife. I
have several businesses. I getto do multiple content.
Like, I have so many things tobe happy about. But trust me. I
have moments where I get in myown head, and I start to worry,
and I start to fret. And thenusually, I circle back around

(22:19):
and be like, dude, you dumb.Why?
Why did you do that? If I had togive this, like, a 100%, I'd say
75%, I'm good with, like, justbeing happy, showing up as
happy, understanding joy, andmaybe 25% of the time, I battle
with the demons in my own brainbeing my, like, worst enemy, but

(22:40):
I try to keep them at bay.

Liz Moorehead (22:41):
Alright. Let's head into hungry hustle. And
this this felt like a way backmachine one for me, because this
is one of our first episodes wetalked about hustle. But take us
through it.

George B. Thomas (22:49):
Again, all of this is kind of in the
framework. Right? So beinghungry or embodying this hustle,
that hungry, that fire in yourbelly in the superhuman
framework, It's all aboutmaintaining what I'll call a
relentless yet balanced. Ithere's a key there, pursuit of
growth and improvement in one'slife, personal and professional.

(23:11):
It involves what I would say bythe way, when I think of hustle,
I literally go to the words,strong work ethic.
Ethic. Like, that's what I'mtalking about. And a continuous
desire to learn more and out ofthat, achieve more. This element
of the superhuman framework, ithighlights the importance of

(23:32):
ambition, maybe a word that youmight wanna jot down, and
perseverance, which, by the way,perseverance is such a core
piece of trying to get from hereto there. Perseverance is such a
core piece.
Like, Liz was talking aboutdesigning a room. If you're
trying to design your life,you've gotta persevere. Because

(23:56):
sometimes when you'reconstructing things, the
electrician wires the housewrong. The drain gets put in the
wrong place. So you have to havethat perseverance in reaching
what will eventually be our fullpotential.
And I think this hungry slashhustle, it encourages ongoing
learning and resilience,perseverance, resilience,

(24:19):
ambition, which are key traitsfor facing life's challenges and
moving past what this entirepodcast is about, and that is
beyond your default state. Sothe the hungry, the fire is
probably why you actually endedup listening to this podcast
anyway and why you're on thejourney before you knew it was a

(24:40):
journey beyond your default.

Liz Moorehead (24:42):
Quick question for you, though. Just again,
this is something where hit thearchives. We did an incredible
conversation about hustle, but Iwould love, George, for you to
give our listeners at home aquick reminder of what hustle
isn't because sometimes thisdefinition can get really
corrupted.

George B. Thomas (24:57):
Yeah. It's not working your face off not to
steal somebody else's statement.It's not like grinding yourself
into the ground. It's it's not,you know, this, like, toxic
culture. It's it, like, it'salmost anything that you would
search on the Internet aroundentrepreneurial hustle mindset,

(25:20):
just go read that and be like,oh, that's not what we're
talking about.
Like, we literally lean moreinto Alright, George. What do we
have next? Helpful. Wee. Woohoo.

Liz Moorehead (25:34):
Alright, George. What do we have next? Helpful.

George B. Thomas (25:37):
Woo hoo. Yeah. So helpfulness in the superhuman
framework, it's characterized byhaving and if you've listened to
this podcast for any length oftime, you've heard these words.
But it's a servant's heart, awillingness to go the extra
mile, and a focus on assistingothers over yourself. It it

(25:58):
means being approachable.
It means being vulnerable, andit means being generally
interested in the other'swell-being. Like, the humans
around you literally caring howthey are and where they're at.
Being helpful fosters community,which, by the way, I've had
people just say to me, like,your default state is community.

(26:21):
Like, you don't even know you'rebuilding community, but you're
building community. Thatliterally ties back to the
helpful and to the servant'sheart.
And so it fosters community andsupports and strengthens
relationships. Again, why dopeople say, man, it always feels
like you're working with yourfriends, not your clients?
Because it's it's relational,not transactional. Why? Because

(26:44):
it's about being helpful andhaving a servant's heart.
Right? See how all of this kindof ties together. But the best
part about being helpful is itpositively impacts others,
hashtag the ripples, by the way,and it aligns with the value of
serving and uplifting. I justneed a hand up. I don't need a

(27:05):
handout.
You've heard that on thispodcast before, but it aligns
with the value of serving anduplifting those around us.

Liz Moorehead (27:13):
What's the difference between helpfulness
and destructive self sacrifice?

George B. Thomas (27:18):
Oh, well, I mean, what it's in the title, I
think, when you ask destructive,like Right.

Liz Moorehead (27:23):
But we don't always realize in the moment
that that's what we're doing.

George B. Thomas (27:26):
Yeah. I think that, again, not to sound like a
broken record, but in all ofthese, I think there might even
be a little bit of a balance.Right? There might be two sides
of the coin or a yin to theyang. And so when I think about
helpfulness, when I think of aservant's heart, it's coming
from a place where you know thatit's good for them, but you also

(27:49):
know by doing good for them,it's good for you.
Like, it's gonna fill your cupas well. And I will say, to kind
of answer your question, thereshould be a layer of, like,
paying attention to or, well,I'm struggling with this one, to
be honest with you, because I'mthinking of me. Right? I'm

(28:11):
looking into my heart. And forsome reason, my brain's going
to, like, the first time that Igot in a situation, it wouldn't
matter.
I would just help no matterwhat. But I would have this
thing in the back of my head. Ifthe same type of thing from the
same human happened again, thenthere'd be a buffer. There'd be

(28:32):
a difference. So some sort ofpaying attention to that you're
not getting taken advantage ofor that it hasn't become
destructive to you or youhaven't completely depleted your
cup by giving, like, again, itshould be a your giving and
serving because it's helpingthem and filling your cup at the
same time.

(28:52):
But, again, I don't wanna give ahard and fast rule of, like,
because to me, servant's heart,I'll use the word it flows
freely.

Liz Moorehead (29:02):
Let's stick into humble and humility.

George B. Thomas (29:04):
Yep. God had to break me for me to learn this
one. But humility in thesuperhuman framework involves
recognizing and valuing others,their contributions. It's the
recognition of staying grounded.I battle with this because
sometimes you can groundyourself too much and actually

(29:24):
suppress the awesome person thatGod created you to be.
In keeping, though, I think abig one for this is an open mind
when I think of being humble aswell. It's about putting others
before ourselves, and it'sdefinitely about avoiding
arrogance. It's a healthyunderstanding of ego, and we've

(29:45):
talked about good ego, bad egohistorically on the podcast, so
you can go into the archives onthat. But humility, I believe,
is essential for if you're goingfor personal growth, true
personal growth. There's a levelof humility that is essential to
be in there versus growth foregotistical or narcissistic

(30:06):
reasons, especially if you'regonna build strong, respectful
relationships with humans basedon the fact of your humility.
And I think it helps usacknowledge our own limitations.
And because when we canacknowledge our own limitations
and see our own weaknesses, thathelps us understand where we can

(30:29):
focus our continuous improvementas we kind of journey down this
road of of personal growth.

Liz Moorehead (30:35):
How do you keep yourself in this mindset?
Because you and I have bothshared on previous episodes how
life, circumstance, God has donethat. Lovely thing that he does
to so many of us which is like,okay. So just hold on. You're at
a 15.
We're gonna need to bring youback down to a 6. But, you know,
this is one of those thingswhere I feel like it's a kind of
a constant practice. Yeah. Howdo you keep that?

George B. Thomas (30:56):
So for me, I think it might be easier than
the normal, human out thereunless they have something that
they can tie to. And, again, forme, it was literally I let my
head get too big. I was verymuch ego. I had a motorcycle
accident. I broke my wrist.
I couldn't pull up my owndislocated my shoulder. I

(31:18):
couldn't pull up my own pants at23, 24 years old. Anyway, I'll
just never forget that day. I'llnever forget the day when I
couldn't pull up my own pants.I'll never forget the day that
God had to break me to get myattention.
And so whenever I feel myselfgetting close to the point that

(31:38):
I once was of, like, the bighead and the egotistical, like,
I transport myself back to that24 year old kid, and I
immediately deflate and, like,nope. And and I used to have
some things, Liz, and I stillkind of do this. Although no
names to be named, I get yelledat when I do this. Actually,

(32:01):
there's multiple humans that dothis to me, but I used to have
this trigger where I'd be like,well, I'm just a guy, and I'm
just a guy was my reset or mylet the air out. Right?
Like, because usually peoplewould be like, ah, you're
awesome at da da da. Or

Liz Moorehead (32:16):
I wonder who could have challenged you on
that.

George B. Thomas (32:18):
You did this, and I'm like, I'm just a guy.
You know? And, like, literally,when you did the intro today,
like, the man, the myth, thelegend, like, you always do, I
viscerally wanted to be like,I'm just a guy.

Liz Moorehead (32:29):
George, that's because I'm here forever to be
your hype man. You do realizethat. Right? Like, God realized
you did not have a hype man. Youwould never do it for yourself,
so that is my job.

George B. Thomas (32:39):
Yeah. So so that and see, that kinda goes,
like, with the question you had.It's like, I've learned to maybe
not hype myself up, to keepmyself humble, and then because
it really is truly about whatthey say, not what I say. So,
like, if somebody feels likethey wanna stand up and say that
thing now the hard part aboutthis is I have had to teach

(33:01):
myself along the way to justaccept it. I am good at that.
Versus always, like and this iswhat I said kind of in the
beginning of, like, pushingmyself down too far by trying to
stay humble to where I'm, like,degrading the awesomeness that
God has created in me as kind ofI've been through this journey
of life.

Liz Moorehead (33:20):
Well, that's how I always kinda try to remind
myself of that. Right? Like,when I start putting myself down
too much, like, you and I talkedabout this last week, and I
shared it as part of myhighlight. You know, I really
had to take my goal seriouslyand just start running with this
gift that I have with writing.But first, I had to acknowledge
it was indeed a gift.

George B. Thomas (33:37):
Yep.

Liz Moorehead (33:38):
And I had this image of God just hanging up in
a cloud upstairs being like,this bleep down there is being,
like, I get being humble, but Igave you this for a reason. Will
you get to work? Can we get overthis now, please?

George B. Thomas (33:51):
I've never wondered I've never wondered
until this point if god has asensor button up there.

Liz Moorehead (33:56):
I would like to do you think he needs one?

George B. Thomas (33:58):
I don't know. Do you

Liz Moorehead (33:59):
think he's the boss who's, like, do what I say,
not what I do?

George B. Thomas (34:02):
I'm gonna set a bush on fire? Probably not.
Probably not.

Liz Moorehead (34:07):
I can set a bush on fire. You cannot. That's a
fire code violation.

George B. Thomas (34:11):
Yeah. Exactly.

Liz Moorehead (34:12):
Continuing. So speaking well, this is kind of
perfect.

George B. Thomas (34:15):
The next one is humor. It really is funny
because because it's humorous,which and I'm just telling you
that was so great. Like, if youjust pause for a minute and just
embrace what the freak happenedand we

Liz Moorehead (34:28):
just embracing it. That was beautiful.

George B. Thomas (34:29):
It it is.

Liz Moorehead (34:30):
That's what we in the business call synergy.

George B. Thomas (34:32):
Yeah. It's amazing. So humor in the
superhuman framework adds thisability to have
lightheartedness, adds fun toyour life. Humor definitely
helps build connections, relievestress, helps you maintain a
positive outlook. Humor canenhance social interactions that
you have.

(34:52):
It can provide relief duringstressful times, which, again,
we know in life that's justgonna happen. And it definitely
fosters, and again, this wordkeeps coming up, this resilience
and creates for sure a positiveatmosphere in both personal
settings and professionalsettings if it's used correctly.

(35:14):
And, again, we've done a wholepodcast episode on humor and the
power of it and sword and shieldand all of that good. So you
could definitely go listen toit, but it really is this idea
of really closely connected tojoy, like humor,
lightheartedness, positiveoutlook, relief. Like, with

(35:37):
those things in a positivenature, it really leans into the
joy of life because there's somehumor and there's growth and
definitely a key piece.

Liz Moorehead (35:48):
You know, humor was something that we talked
about extensively

George B. Thomas (35:53):
Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (35:53):
Last week. Extensively. That's the hyena
energy episode. I would stronglyurge everybody go listen to it.

George B. Thomas (36:00):
Good one.

Liz Moorehead (36:00):
George, very similar to a question I asked
earlier, specifically abouthumility. I'd be curious to know
how you keep yourself in check.How do you make sure you're
bringing up humor as a tool ofconnection rather than a weapon
of derision or defense?

George B. Thomas (36:16):
My immediate gut reaction to that question is
like, I don't know. Or I'm notsure if I do, but then I
immediately, like, yeah. I do.But I think it's, yeah, I do.
Because years ago, I put asafeguard in of, like, I refuse
to do any type of humor that is,deprecating to others.

(36:37):
So usually the humor is aroundme, something I did stupid, or
it's something that could besaid that somebody wouldn't get
offense to. Now are there timesthat maybe I slip? Yes. Do I
immediately feel that Deep in mygut. Do I try to, like, make
sure I'm like, oh, sorry.

(36:57):
That probably wasn't funny?Maybe not in the moment, but
I'll definitely circle backaround and do that. But for the
most part, I've got a humor thatis clean 95% of the time, not
hurtful 95% of the time. And,again, most times, it's very
much, like, in the moment, notovermanufactured. And and so I

(37:21):
think part of this why it's hardfor me to answer this question
too is humor is just one of mydefault states.
I don't know if it's listed inthe Bible as a gift. I give you
the gift of humor, but it couldliterally be one of my gifts
because some of the dumb stuffI've said from stages that were
not in the original, like,scripting of what I wanted to

(37:43):
talk about, I have no clue wherethey came from, but audiences
freaking lose it. And so I'mlike, I just feel like this is a
gift.

Liz Moorehead (37:52):
I relate to that deeply. One of the biggest
laughs I ever got on a stage, itwas at a conference. It was in
front of about, like, 800people. I don't know what
possessed me to say it, George.I walked out on stage and
everybody's like, yes.
I'm like, whoo. I'm like, oh,this is so nice people. It's
quite a difference from justsitting here in workshopping
material with my cat. And Idon't know why it everybody just

(38:14):
started laughing and then I justwent, I'm not kidding. Because I
was Yeah.

George B. Thomas (38:19):
Because that's usually what I do.

Liz Moorehead (38:21):
It's it's amazing. That's what makes those
moments so special. That's whatmakes those moments like, humor
could be such a beautiful thingwhen you are using it as a
mechanism by which to bringsincere joy to others just for
the sake of it.

George B. Thomas (38:33):
Well and I think too another thing you just
hit on, which is funny and,again, very interesting into the
next one that we're going into,but it was funny because it was
honest. Yeah. You literallyusually workshop content with
your cat because we work remote.And so, like, it was just funny
because we're not alone. Otherpeople do the same weird stuff

(38:57):
we do.
And so when you say somethingabout yourself that comes from a
place of honesty, like, theyfind it humorous because all of
a sudden, they put your shoesand their shoes are in the same
spot.

Liz Moorehead (39:09):
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That's what I always
coach people. Like, don't befunny. Just be yourself.
People will start laughingnaturally.

George B. Thomas (39:15):
Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (39:15):
So, yes, it does lead nicely though into the next
one, which is honesty. Tell usabout it, George.

George B. Thomas (39:21):
Honesty in the superhuman framework is about
being truthful, transparent, andauthentic in all or as many as
you can because perfectionism.But, in all interactions, if
you're honest, it builds trust,it builds integrity, and it
builds trust and integrity inour relationships, which is the

(39:43):
foundation, by the way, thoserelationships of trust and
credibility on a macro stage orstandpoint. Honesty makes sure
clear communication happens, andit also promotes a culture,
again, of transparency andaccountability. And, again, I I
want people to hopefully bejotting down words that hit or

(40:05):
resonate with them from astandpoint of I've got that or I
need more of that in my life.And so, like, for honest things
like truthful, transparent,authentic, accountability,
credibility, communication,relationships, like, those
should be things that we'rejotting down and thinking of
inputs and outputs from fromthis h of the superhuman

(40:28):
framework.

Liz Moorehead (40:29):
You know, as I was reflecting on the honesty
piece, reading through thesuperhuman framework, one of the
things that struck me the mostis that I think sometimes there
are the very binary moments.Right? It's like you're either
being honest or you're beingdishonest, and you look in the
mirror and you know. But I thinksome of the times that this has
been the most important lessonfor me to learn and the one that

(40:49):
has been the most challengingfor me to learn effectively is
the moments where I don'tnecessarily realizing I'm lying
to myself. Does that make sense?
Like, there's a different typeof honesty, I think. Because
there there's the stuff we'retalking about, like, honesty,
integrity, trustworthiness. Butsometimes dishonesty will occur
because you're not willing to behonest with yourself about

George B. Thomas (41:08):
the facts.

Liz Moorehead (41:09):
And I'd be curious to get your thoughts on
that.

George B. Thomas (41:11):
Oh, wow. Nothing like the deep end of the
pool.

Liz Moorehead (41:14):
You're welcome. Yeah. I'm sorry. You're just a
guy. I should have played iteasy.

George B. Thomas (41:18):
Yeah. I mean, that probably is the hardest
human to be honest with isourselves because we have a
skewed perspective of who weare, 1, and what we can achieve,
2. We are much greater than wethink we are, and we are much
better than we believe ourselfto be. And in this one, Liz,

(41:41):
what I will say is I've talkedabout this historically on the
podcast where it's like Godeyes, or it could even just be,
like, father eyes or mother eyesor best friend eyes. But but a
outside perspective to who youare and, like, trying to
interact as that person, almostlike, not like an out of body

(42:04):
experience, but, like, out ofmind where, like, you're almost,
like, interviewing yourself.
Because if we're just willing torun the one narrative that
happens in in an instant in ourbrain and not second guess it or
not interview it or not try torip it apart 3 different ways
and then make a decision off ofit, we very easily could have

(42:28):
lied to ourself. So I guess whatI'm saying in this one is, like,
take time to diagnose whatnarratives you're having in your
brain. Try to look at it from anoutside perspective, which, by
the way, may be actually gettingan outside perspective or you
trying to look at it from anoutside perspective.

Liz Moorehead (42:46):
I love it. Healthy. Something I know you've
had a recent dance with.

George B. Thomas (42:51):
Yeah. It was funny. I was this weekend, I was
sitting in the pool with abuddy. He said this to me. He
said, yeah.
So all the plans that I had,like, the master plan to do this
out the window because somethinghappened at his job. And I
started laughing, and he's like,why are you laughing? I go,
dude, I know you probably don'tlisten to my podcast because
we're friends and stuff, but,like, 2 episodes ago, the title

(43:15):
was George Had a Plan Until HeDidn't. And he started laughing
because it was just so alignedas this, and that is the episode
where we talk about health andme being in the hospital for
three and a half days, which, bythe way, Liz, I have had time to
reflect and think. 6 years ago,when I had my, like, scoot down
the stairs and EMS took me off,and I was like, I don't have

(43:39):
time for this.
I got a meeting in 10 minutes. Iwas in the hospital for 3 and a
half days. This time, I was inthe hospital for 3 and a half
days. I sit here and I go,coincidence? I think not.

Liz Moorehead (43:51):
That's always my favorite thing where it's like,
you didn't learn the lesson thefirst time, so we're gonna come
back here and we're gonna do itagain.

George B. Thomas (43:58):
Yep. And I literally am like, oh, crap.
Like, we've been here. So youhave to pay attention to your
health. So health in thesuperhuman framework, this
includes physical, mental, andemotional well-being.
So we're talking across theboard. I would even maybe even
add in spiritual healthiness.But it means caring for your

(44:19):
body, your mind, your spirit sothat you can live a balanced
life. This one literally helps,by the way, on all the
conversations that we've hadprevious and we'll have after
this around, like, the yin andthe yang, the good and the bad,
They're like, did it go too faror was it enough? If you're
focused on healthy inside ofphysical, mental, spiritual,

(44:41):
emotional, and that balance.
It's almost like healthy is thegreat equalizer to, like, the
other framework elements in thesuperhuman framework. And so a
healthy lifestyle is obviouslyvery crucial for sustained
energy. By the way, has anybodyheard the word resilience on

(45:02):
this episode yet? But it'sresilience and your well-being
as a human. It supports your oureverybody's ability to pursue
our goals and handle challengeseffectively.
Listen. If you're not focused onhealthy, you're gonna burn out,
and you can either burn out andget the opportunity to

(45:22):
rejuvenate and start again, oryou can burn out burnout, which
means you done. Race is over. Donot pass go. Do not collect
$200.
This honestly for me has beenone that, unfortunately, I have
put in the back seat or in thetrunk or in the U Haul of

(45:45):
somebody else going to adifferent destination than I am,
but it is something that I woulddefinitely beg, plead, pray that
myself and anybody listening toBeyond Your Default podcast
would be like health is, like,one of the top main pillar
pieces to help drive the rest ofthese.

Liz Moorehead (46:06):
Talk to me about holistic. Because this one, I
looked at the other ones, I'mlike, I get this. And this word,
I was like, so I'm a writer. Ofcourse, I know what holistic
means. But, sir, illuminate.

George B. Thomas (46:17):
Yeah. Well, we almost, like, one of the things
we may end up doing in thefuture is we may layer these,
because I don't know if theseright now are layered in the
level of importance or the levelin which one should think of
them. Again, I would maybe puthealthy at the top, right, as
we're going through this.Holistic might be the one that

(46:38):
would be at the end. Becausewhen I think of holistic
approach in just like I talkedtalked about healthy being a
great equalizer, I think healthyand then holistic is maybe
they're both part of the samecompass, if you will, to help us
navigate in the right direction.
But a holistic approach in thesuperhuman framework considers
all aspects of well-being,again, including physical,

(47:01):
mental, emotional, and spiritualhealth. It's about balance and
harmony in all areas of life, orit could be better stated in the
other nine elements of thesuperhuman framework. And so
holistic, well-being make surethat all parts of our lives are
aligned and balanced leading togreater fulfillment. And

(47:24):
healthy, I said, was the greatequalizer. Holistic is the great
stabilizer because it createsstability in your life when
you're when you're firing on all8 cylinders, holistic, instead
of only firing on 6 out of 8.
You can get down the road in amore optimized way, faster way.

(47:46):
And so, yeah, healthy equalizer,holistic stabilizer of kind of
the rest of these frameworkpieces.

Liz Moorehead (47:53):
You know what I really love about that one?
Because the reason why Istruggled with it at first, I'll
admit I had an initial self carereaction. I initially had a self
care reaction because I thinkholistic is a word that gets
thrown out a lot. It's kind oflike placeholder language to
basically say, look at a bunchof stuff and make sure you look
at all of it and not just like afew things. You know what I

(48:14):
mean?
Right. And so I think what'shappened though is that it's
kinda like how marketers haveruined the idea of authenticity.
Hear authenticity or just like,I don't wanna I don't wanna talk
about it. I don't wanna hearabout it. Even though that is
what I preach specifically in myjob.
Holistic has become somewhatsimilar in that everything's
holistic.

George B. Thomas (48:35):
In our ecosystem, but hopefully not in
life in general.

Liz Moorehead (48:39):
I hope so. Yeah. Alright. We're coming down the
home stretch second to last one.Yeah.
It's gonna be weird to hear yousay this word without the usual
effect that we have on the otherpodcast that we do.

George B. Thomas (48:51):
Yeah. On Hub Heroes. It it is weird not gonna
be doing something like human.Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (49:00):
I was really hoping you'd do that. Okay.
Yeah. Take us through human.Take us through human.

George B. Thomas (49:05):
Yeah. So being human in the superhuman
framework is all about and,again, I asked you to jot words
down so that you would seepatterns. And when you see
patterns, you'll realize what Imeant by their bricks that layer
on top of each other. But beinghuman in the superhuman
framework is about authenticity.It's about vulnerability, and

(49:28):
it's about embracing our trueselves.
You've heard us talk about beinga whole ass human previously on
this podcast. It's abouthonesty. Interesting. Showing up
or showing our strengths and ourweaknesses and connecting deeply
with other humans who theyrealize they may have strengths

(49:48):
and weaknesses either same ordifferent than us as well.
Authenticity and vulnerability,by the way, of being human help
us build deep, meaningfulconnections, and they foster
supportive communities.
That community could be yourfamily. That community could be
broader than that. Thatcommunity could be that you have

(50:08):
500,000 followers or a 1000000followers, but being human, your
whole ass self, authentic andvulnerable with your strengths
and weaknesses, is what unlocksthat superpower, authenticity,
and and vulnerability.Encourage, by the way, this is
so crucial, self acceptance andgenuine relationships with you

(50:31):
as a human and other humans thatyou journey through life with.

Liz Moorehead (50:36):
Why do you think it's so easy to forget our
humanity?

George B. Thomas (50:38):
Because many times we hide from who we are.
Many times we maybe are evenashamed of who we are. Many
times we feel like we weren'tcreated right. Why do I have a
big nose? Why do I have bigears?
Why am I balding at 24? We're sofocused on the exterior or we're

(50:59):
so focused on, but you don't seeme at my worst, or we're so
focused on, like, you know, whenI'm alone, this is how I think.
Again, we don't have those godeyes. We don't have the
perspective of others, and so weget into this, like, downward
spiral, and we forget to tellourselves how awesome we are. I

(51:19):
mean, Liz, literally, on my,whiteboard behind me, it
literally says, because I thinkit's important that I read a
couple of these.
The top line of my whiteboardsays, god created me to be
awesome, exclamation mark, beawesome. Then it says, build the
life you wanna live. By the way,when you were talking about,

(51:41):
like, decorating your home, Iwas thinking, like, you gotta
build the life that you wantfirst. The 4th line, it
literally says, it's yours todesign. So build the life you
wanna live.
It's yours to design. Godcreated me to be awesome. Be
awesome. And then the third linein there says, I've come a long
way since 2013. This is anotheranswer, by the way, to your

(52:05):
question is many humans don'ttake the time to stop on the
journey up the mountain to turnaround to look back on how far
they came because they are sofocused on the last line that is
on my whiteboard, which says inbig, all capital letters.
And if that's not enough, anexclamation mark, get to the

(52:25):
top. And so this idea ofreflection, this idea of
building, this idea of becomingor journeying, in our case,
creating a life beyond yourdefault, we lose that because we
don't focus on who we truly are,who we can become, how far we've

(52:45):
gotten. Because we're just inthat moment at 2 o'clock looking
at TikTok or in our own braingoing.

Liz Moorehead (52:53):
I have to be honest. The only follow-up I
have to that one is that whenyou be awesome. And you kept
saying it over and over again.It reminded me of that quote. Be
yourself except when you couldbe Batman, then be Batman.

George B. Thomas (53:06):
I love it. I am Batman.

Liz Moorehead (53:08):
We got one more.

George B. Thomas (53:09):
Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (53:09):
We've got one more. Talk to me about it.
Because this was a late edition.So I want you to explain what it
is, but you know I'm coming foryou about why this wasn't
originally on the list and howit finally ended up on there
because I was flummoxed

George B. Thomas (53:22):
Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (53:22):
Aghast that it wasn't there.

George B. Thomas (53:24):
Yeah. Okay. I'll say what it is first even
though I really wanna just go inand answer. I wanna answer. But
okay.
So, the last one is holiness.And so holiness in the
superhuman framework involvesseeking spiritual growth. Notice
I didn't say religious growth. Isaid involve seeking spiritual

(53:45):
growth and a deeper connectionto our beliefs. It's about
striving for a higher purposeand living a life aligned with
our spiritual values.
Again, I asked you to have anotepad out. Right? So seeking,
striving, purpose, values, likespiritual growth provides a

(54:06):
sense of purpose and deepermeaning in life. For me, this
goes right up there withhelpfulness because the
servant's heart and the idea ofpurpose and purpose driven and
meaning and helping, like,they're almost hand in hand. But
but this piece right here alsoaligns with when you ask me

(54:28):
about humor because holinessguides our ethical behavior.
It doesn't allow us or it helpsus not cross a line, and it
supports inner peace. So it alsoties to happiness and joy that
we talked about earlier andfulfillment, which when I think
about fulfillment, it isliterally the fuel for the

(54:51):
journey that I'm actually on.That's my thought on how
holiness and why holiness madeit here.

Liz Moorehead (54:57):
So you know what I'm gonna ask you, George?
Because you know what it is.Talk.

George B. Thomas (55:01):
1, I don't wanna ever offend anybody. And
so I've been real careful withthis podcast to have it be about
personal growth, but not hittingpeople over the forehead with a
2 by 4 of my own spiritual orreligious beliefs. However, this
has always silently been in whoI am. I mean, I'm a recovering

(55:22):
youth pastor. I went to collegefor 3 years to actually know how
to be a pastor, and and I havepreached from the pulpit.
I have buried humans, havemarried humans. Like, people
think of me as the HubSpot guy.I had a life before HubSpot, but
it's not about me. It's aboutthem. And here's the thing.

(55:47):
I started thinking about thisframework and the fact that
we're gonna actually give birthto it, and how dare I not have
this be in there when it hasbeen such a crucial part of me
believing in myself, me buildinga framework around how I wanted
to show up, who I wanted to be,the belief in who I could

(56:09):
become, the eyes in which I werebeing looked at, the love in
which I was given. So while Idon't want to offend anybody, I
also don't wanna leave out theseed that could be planted by
simply having this be part of aframework that they can choose
to plug in or not. But at leastfor who I am, it's gonna be

(56:33):
there.

Liz Moorehead (56:34):
I also think to some degree and I say this as
someone who you know, weliterally schedule human time
because even though we talk toeach other constantly, we have
still to go. So this is the timewe only talk as human beings and
not as work people. Right?

George B. Thomas (56:45):
Yep.

Liz Moorehead (56:46):
But, you know, you and I have talked privately
about, you know, I spent manyyears wrestling with my faith. I
have since reconnected to it ina very big way, which has been
really fruitful andilluminating. But I think when
we talk about spirituality, whenwe talk about this concept of
holiness, I think sometimespeople forget, like, you define
that for you. Yep. And in manyways, spirituality can be quite

(57:08):
secular depending on what yourbelief structure is.
You may simply somewhat besomeone who believes in a
balance, whether or not that'sspiritual karma or just a more
secular version of doing good toget good. Doing bad begets bad.
Right? You can when you thinkabout how, quote, unquote,
holiness applies to you, youcould be guided by your internal

(57:30):
instinct, your gut, your set ofvalues, your set of morals and
principles. You are the greatdeterminant of where those come
from.
For some of us, it is a moredefined faith. For some people,
it is not a defined faith, butit is spiritual. And for some,
it's neither of those things.And I think that is something we
have definitely stepped awayfrom in this podcast, but it

(57:53):
made me glad to see it because Ithink there is that nurturing of
the soul component that

George B. Thomas (57:59):
is

Liz Moorehead (57:59):
wrapped up in this Yes. That I think people
forget and people are afraid totalk about because they worry
that if they open their mouthsabout it, they think, oh,
someone's trying to preach to meand turn me Christian or
whatever it is. Right? And it'sit's not about that. It's about
how you define your soul, howyou nourish it, how you guide
it.
What is that internal guidancesystem that you have?

George B. Thomas (58:21):
Yes. Absolutely. And and, Liz, here's
the thing too, because I'vealways had this mind not always.
Earlier in life, I had thismindset that I formulated. I had
a journey in my life where Ididn't grow up spiritual or
religious.
I kind of knew about, you know,10, 11, 12 by going and visiting

(58:41):
my grandparents, what churchwas, and what that meant. And
then when we moved when I wasabout 14, I got really deep
into, like, going to churchbecause some of our neighbors,
like, he was a deacon, and theywere just awesome. And they
would take me and, like and thenI fell away because I've joined
the navy and kinda, like, youknow, did that thing. And at one

(59:02):
point in my life, I thoughtChristians were the most
hypocritical people that I evermet in my life. In another part
of my life, I'm actually a youthpastor, associate pastor at a
church.
So I've just had this, like,hills and valleys relationship
with it. And one of the thingsthat I formulated out of that
was this mindset of, I don'twanna be, the Christian that

(59:23):
walks around with a 2 by 4. I'drather be the type of Christian
that walks around like JohnnyAppleseed. And so Johnny
Appleseed just that he putsthese opportunities out into the
world, and if they grow, theygrow, and if they don't, they
don't. And so holiness in thisframework is my Johnny Appleseed

(59:44):
moment.
It's like, I'm gonna plant theseed, and if it grows and
whatever grows into is based onthe human that's listening to it
and the superhuman they'retrying to become through the
framework.

Liz Moorehead (59:55):
We did it. We got through all of them.

George B. Thomas (59:57):
We got through 10.

Liz Moorehead (59:58):
I'm gonna admit though. I'm sitting here feeling
2 things at the exact same time.

George B. Thomas (01:00:04):
Okay.

Liz Moorehead (01:00:04):
I am feeling freaking excited. I am elated. I
am inspired. This all makessense to me, and I am also
overwhelmed. Oh my gosh.
Where do I even begin? I have tobuild windows and doors and
plumbing for my house all at thesame time, and it's so much to
keep track of and measure myselfagainst every day. And I doubt
I'm alone in listening to this.Like, I could imagine our

(01:00:24):
listeners at home are, like,this is great for people who
have time. So I wanna hear fromyou.
What advice do you have forfolks who wanna take a first
step today

George B. Thomas (01:00:34):
Yeah.

Liz Moorehead (01:00:35):
Toward embracing your superhuman beyond your
default not

George B. Thomas (01:00:41):
surprised not surprised, honestly. Like, both
of those are completelyunderstandable around a
conversation like we just had. Imean, this isn't like a little
framework. Like, it's not 4steps to being like a good
human. Like, this is a prettycomprehensive framework.
Ten things. It's a lot. It's alot. The superhuman beyond your

(01:01:05):
default framework is a lot, butthere I think there's some key
things to progress or will helpthe progression of the humans
who are going through this. 1st,let me be real honest here.
Real honest. Ladies andgentlemen, I'm still working on
all of these myself. I didn'tlist these out because I've
arrived. So know that theremight not ever even be an

(01:01:29):
arrival. It's just destinations,which, by the way, all of these
10 destinations are going to thesame place.
It's called beyond your default.That's where you're headed with
any one of these 10destinations. Number 2, usually,
I'm working on 1 or 2, maybe atmost, 3 of these at a time. I'm

(01:01:52):
not working on all 10. Like,that's almost an impossibility.
But here's one thing that I dounderstand, and I mentioned this
earlier in the podcast. When I'mworking on 1, I'm probably
elevating 2, if not 3. So if I'mworking on 1 or 2, I'm probably
elevating 3, if not 5 or 6,because some of these are so
tightly tied together in whatthey do in your brain and the

(01:02:14):
output of who you are as ahuman. So focus on 1 or 2. That
that's I'm literally telling youwhat I usually do.
3rd thing that I will say aboutme, I'm not measuring myself
daily, by the way. Because whatI don't want people to think
about is like, oh my god. I gotthis 10 step framework, and
every day, I gotta do like no.No. On many of these, it's not

(01:02:36):
daily, but more like weekly ormore like monthly.
But for some of these, it mightbe even, like, be quarterly or
yearly. I ask myself thisquestion. Am I better at this,
insert, by the way, one of thesuperhuman framework elements,
this year than I was last year.By the way, if you wanna line

(01:02:56):
all of these 10 pieces up with,next year's New Year's
resolution or New Year'srevelation or revolution that
you're deciding to have, there'sa whole article about it. You
can go read it.
We'll put it in the show notes.Not even for Beyond Your
Default, it was something elsewe did. Then these might align
with, like, looking at that for,like, the next year or the

(01:03:17):
previous year. But now that I'vetalked about myself and what I
do and think, Liz, I wanna givesome other advice to help you
and the listeners to getstarted. So, 1, start with self
reflection.
This needs to be your superhumanframework, not mine. Your
superhuman framework. So youneed to start self reflection

(01:03:37):
and figure out, out of these 10,what are the ones that matter to
you most? Take some time toreflect on which framework
elements resonate most with you.Which areas do you feel that you
need to work on first?
And then when you figure thatout, choose 1 or 2 elements to
focus on initially. For example,you might start with happy and
healthy. If you feel that thoseare the most immediate areas for

(01:04:00):
improvement, then boom. It'sthose 2 and you roll with it.
And when you feel like you'veexhausted all efforts on those 2
for the moment, go pick anotherone or another 2 and just again,
you don't have to be working onthem at the same time.
Key tip to this, though, build asupport system. Now I don't talk
about this a lot, Liz. I don'teven know if we've ever brought
it up during a podcast, buthaving a support system around

(01:04:23):
this framework and around theheavy conversations we've had
historically with this podcastis literally why we started to
build outcommunity.beyondyourdefault.com.
I mean, it's on the website, butwe just never really talk about
it. And you can learn more bygoing to beyond your
default.comforward/community.
And it's where we wanna havethese deeper conversations or
have accountability partners.And by the way, that doesn't

(01:04:45):
mean it would be Liz and I, butas people join the community, it
would be other communitieskeeping each other accountable
about the actual superhumanframework elements that they're
working on. Anyway, build asupport system. Again, engage
with some type of community.This could be your church
community.
This could be your familycommunity. Whoever you surround
yourself with that is willing toencourage your growth, share

(01:05:08):
your goals with them. Get themto help you focus on your
personal development and thegrowth that you're trying to
make here. Because this reallycomes down to, like, what you're
seeking is accountability withthis whole community piece. You
need an accountability partnerwho can check-in with you or you
can check-in with them regularlybecause this will help you stay

(01:05:29):
motivated on the 1 or 2 thatyou're actually trying to
achieve.
The last thing I'll say here asfar as, like, getting started,
please, by all that is holy,practice some self compassion.
Remember that this is a journeybeyond your default. The podcast
is not called Sprint, and we'venever talked about it as a
sprint. It's not a sprint beyondyour default. It's a journey

(01:05:53):
beyond your default.
So just love yourself a littlebit. Like, be kind to yourself.
Remember that growth is ajourney, not a destination. It's
okay to have setbacks. Be kindand patient with yourself as you
work towards your goals.
If you're kind and patient,you're more likely to get up,
dust yourself off, and keep ongoing. But most of all, give

(01:06:14):
yourself the compassion tocelebrate even the smallest of
wins. Acknowledge and celebratethe progress. Remember when I
talked about on my whiteboard,you've come a long way since
2013. Celebrate your progressand your wins no matter how
small.
Each step forward on 1 orseveral of these framework

(01:06:34):
elements is a victory, and youhave to have a victory mindset.
If you have issues with that, gocheck out the episode where we
did victor versus victimmindset, if you have an issue
with that. But it's about notnecessarily creating a daily
habit. It might be daily forsome, but think of more of this
like a daily, weekly, monthly,and potentially yearly check-in.

(01:06:57):
Place each element of theframework where it needs to be
for you.
Have some time to measure it,have habits, have routines,
schedule time for growth. Here'sthe one that I love about this.
Listen. If you dedicated aspecific time in your day to
activities related to yourchosen element or elements, for
instance, if you're working onhappiness and you set aside 15

(01:07:20):
minutes each morning, supereasy, by the way. 15 minutes
isn't anything.
You realize that that's an hourand 45 minutes a week? You
realize what that multipliesinto depending on the month and
the days and how many weeks arein a month? Do you realize what
that turns into in a year? Theamount of time that you would be
spending on actually being happyor a happier human, that is

(01:07:42):
huge. Listen.
At the end of the day, like Iasked myself, ask yourself the
question, am I better at this orthese, again, insert your own
superhuman elements, than I waslast week, last month, last
year? And guess what? If you sayyes to any of them, well, ladies

(01:08:04):
and gentlemen, you're well onyour way to becoming superhuman
using the superhuman framework.And rest assured, you're
crushing it in so many ways inlife while traveling down the
road of a life on this journeyfor what we're all trying to
gain, where we're all trying togo, the 10 roads this framework

(01:08:24):
heads to, that big old city, alife beyond your default.
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