Beyond Your Number

Beyond Your Number

You’re not just a type — you’re a whole story. Beyond Your Number is a conversational Enneagram podcast where Damon & Kelly explore real-life growth through personality. From relationships to team dynamics, we help you go deeper than the label. New episodes every Wednesday. Formerly EnneagramU.

Episodes

July 16, 2025 26 mins

Conflict doesn’t have to mean shouting matches or broken relationships.

This week on Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly dive into a topic that touches every relationship—conflict. They unpack how different Enneagram numbers experience disagreements, why some avoid it while others charge in, and how even small differences in opinion can feel like big battles for certain types.

Kelly shares a practical six-step roadmap for moving from...

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We’ve made it to the end of our Enneagram communication series—and it’s Damon’s turn in the hot seat as we talk all things Type 9!

In this episode, Damon wrestles with “Nine doubt,” shares why he’s skeptical about gentle communication styles, and admits he might be a secret One. Kelly unpacks what truly drives the Peacemaker’s calm exterior, and why the word “sure” doesn’t always mean agreement.

Together, they explore how Nines commu...

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Double-booked calendars, fast-talking optimism, and more ideas than minutes in the day…welcome to the world of the Enneagram 7!

In this (slightly turbo) episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly explore how Type 7s approach communication, why they’re magnets for new experiencesand how to keep up without getting lost in the whirlwind.

  • Why “yes” is a 7’s favorite word
  • The line between healthy optimism and escaping reality
  •  How t...
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What’s it like to talk with a Type 8? Passionate. Direct. Powerful. And sometimes, intense. In this episode, Kelly shares from her own experience as a Type 8—what works, what doesn't, and what eights most need from you in communication. Damon helps us see how that energy can feel to others, especially when it gets misunderstood. Whether you're an Eight, love one, or work with one, this conversation unpacks the heart behin...

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Type Fives are thoughtful, observant, and incredibly insightful—if you give them the space to speak. In this episode, Damon and Kelly unpack how Fives approach communication, why they avoid surface-level conversations, and what it really takes to earn their input and trust. If you’ve ever wondered what’s going on behind a Five’s quiet presence, this one’s for you.

In This Episode:

  • Why Type Fives value space, privacy, and logic in...
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How do you talk with someone who’s always giving, always helping, and always putting others first? In this episode, Damon and Kelly dive into the warm, people-focused world of the Enneagram Two — and why communication with them can feel like a hug, a therapy session, and a pep talk all in one.

Whether you are a 2 or love one, this conversation unpacks what motivates them, how to respond to their generosity, and why setting boundarie...

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How does an Enneagram Six communicate? In this episode, Damon and Kelly explore the loyal, thoughtful, and cautious communication style of Sixes — and how trust, safety, and preparation shape their voice. Whether you’re a Type 6 or trying to connect with one, this episode will help you understand what’s behind their questions and what they need to feel secure.

In This Episode:

  • The superpower of Sixes: loyalty and preparedness
  • Why ...
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How does an Enneagram Type 3 communicate — and what’s really going on beneath the polish? In this episode, Damon and Kelly dive into the world of the driven, adaptable, and image-conscious Three. Discover why communication for a 3 is all about connection, competence, and results… and how to speak their language without assuming they’re just putting on a show.

Whether you are a 3, love a 3, or work with one, this episode will help yo...

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How does an Enneagram Four communicate? In this episode, Damon and Kelly explore the creative, emotional, and deeply authentic style of Fours — and what it means to truly be with them in conversation. Whether you are a 4 or love one, this episode helps you understand their inner world, and how to connect with empathy, not just answers.


In This Episode:

  • The superpower of Fours: authenticity in emotion and expression
  • Why Fours ...
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How do you respond to change? In our 100th episode, we explore how each Enneagram type handles change — from resistance to adventure — and why it matters. Plus, a big shift is coming for the podcast (and we finally reveal it).


How do you respond to change? In our 100th episode, we explore how each Enneagram type handles change — from resistance to adventure — and why it matters. Plus, a big shift is coming for the p...

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In this episode of EnneagramU, we explore how different Enneagram types communicate, focusing specifically on Type 1. We discuss the strengths and challenges of Type 1 communication, including their tendency to be precise and honest, but also potentially critical. We also provide tips on how to effectively communicate with Type 1 individuals, emphasizing the importance of active listening and gentle feedback.


1. Overview of Enn...

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Last time, we used ChatGPT and Marvel characters to guess Blake’s Enneagram type. This time, he took the official WEPSS test — and the result was not what we expected. Why did AI miss it? And what does that reveal about typing, personality, and self-awareness?

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This week on EnneagramU, we embark on a unique journey of self-discovery with special guest Blake Fontinel, as he takes a Marvel-Themed CHATGPT Enneagram quiz LIVE on the show. Through a series of fun questions comparing Blake's personality to Marvel characters, we guide him towards uncovering his potential Enneagram type. 
Next week we will reveal his true type based on a professional assessment and see if the super heroe...

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This week we explored the true self and false self of Enneagram types 7, 8, and 9. We discussed how each type can move from their false self tendencies (like avoidance of pain for 7s, denying vulnerability for 8s, and avoiding conflict for 9s) back to their true selves through practices like sobriety, innocence, and taking action. We provide insights into the core struggles of these types and offers practical ways for people to rec...

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This week we continued our exploration of true self vs. false self for each Enneagram type, focusing on types 4, 5, and 6. We discussed how these types can recognize when they're operating from their false self, and explored practical ways they can return to their true self, including processing emotions, practicing detachment, and cultivating courage. This episode is helpful for understanding the core struggles and growth pat...

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In this episode of EnneagramU, we explore the concept of true self vs. false self for Enneagram types 1, 2, and 3. We discuss how each type can recognize when they're operating from their false self, and provide practical guidance on how they can return to their true self. Discover practical strategies and valuable insights to help these personality types increase self-awareness and authenticity, ultimately leading to greater ...

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In this week's episode we explore the concept of true self vs. false self, discussing how we often lose touch with our authentic selves and live from a place of false identity. 

Then we delve into how childhood experiences and societal conditioning can lead us to develop a false self, and why reconnecting with our true essence is crucial for living a fulfilling life. 

This week gain valuable insights into recognizing your false ...

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In this episode, we introduce the concepts of true self and false self, explaining how the Enneagram can be used as a tool to recognize and move away from false self behaviors. We discuss how each Enneagram triad (gut, heart, and head) tends to struggle with different aspects of false self, such as power, popularity, and provision. We want to identify areas of exhaustion in our lives as a way to uncover false self patterns and begi...

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In this episode we discuss Nines and those who work with them. We explore how Nines bring a peaceful, diplomatic "glue" to teams while also discussing their challenges with inertia and goal-setting. By sharing personal experiences and practical strategies, we aim to help Nines leverage their strengths and overcome obstacles in their professional lives, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in understandi...

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In this episode, we discuss what it's like to work with Enneagram Type 8 personalities. We explore the strengths of Eights as leaders and decision-makers, while also examining some of their potential blind spots in the workplace. We offer practical suggestions for Eights to be more effective leaders and team members, including being mindful of others' perspectives, expressing appreciation, and finding balance between driv...

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