Beyond Your Number

Beyond Your Number

You’re not just a type — you’re a whole story. Beyond Your Number is a conversational Enneagram podcast where Damon & Kelly explore real-life growth through personality. From relationships to team dynamics, we help you go deeper than the label. New episodes every Wednesday. Formerly EnneagramU.

Episodes

July 1, 2026 20 mins

Summer brings out a different side of every Enneagram type. In this episode, Damon and Kelly break down how Types 1, 2, and 3 approach summer break, vacations, and rest.

Type 1s want a productive, well planned summer that still leaves room to relax. Type 2s crave connection through cookouts, lake days, and girls trips, but need to watch for burnout. Type 3s want a summer that looks as good as it feels, with bucket list trips and fit...

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Are you an Enneagram 2, 3, or 4? In this live episode, Damon and Kelly break down the heart triad and help you identify your type through a game of Enneagram bingo.

Recorded in front of a live audience, this one covers the three heart types in depth. The Type 2 (the loving person), motivated by the need to be loved and to serve others. The Type 3 (the effective person), driven by achievement and the need to avoid failure. And the Ty...

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Every person you work with has a different way of thinking, deciding, and reacting under stress. The Enneagram gives you a map for all of it.

Damon and Kelly recorded this live at the Homebase Conference in Columbia, Missouri, speaking to real estate professionals. But the framework they teach applies anywhere people are making decisions under pressure, whether that's a sales conversation, a negotiation, a team meeting, or a difficu...

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Why does the same disagreement feel completely different to a Type 8 versus a Type 9? Your Enneagram type shapes how you react.

Damon and Kelly walk through the knee-jerk conflict response for all nine Enneagram types and what to do instead. Plus, the 20-minute rule for getting untriggered.

Quick guide to each type's conflict response:

Type 1: Criticizes others or themselves 
Type 2: Becomes overly helpful or manipulates ...

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How do you communicate better through your Enneagram type? Each number has one habit to slow down. Here is the breakdown for Types 1 through 9.

Kelly and Damon use James 1:19 (quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to become angry) as the lens for this episode, walking through one specific slow-down practice for each Enneagram type.

What each type should slow down:

Type 1: criticism. Notice the judgment and ask what is underneath it.

Typ...

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Which Friends character shares your Enneagram type?

Damon and Kelly walk through all 9 Enneagram types using characters from two beloved shows: the classic Friends and the Taylor Sheridan drama Landman.

Friends gets the full treatment first. Monica the perfectionist 1, Rachel the image-driven 3, Phoebe the unique 4, Ross the wise 5, Chandler the loyal 6-wing-7, and Joey the joyful 7. Then they head to West Texas for Landman: attorney...

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What if your favorite TV characters can actually help you understand personality better? In this episode, Damon and Kelly have some fun using the Enneagram lens to type characters from The Office, Friends, Parks and Rec, and Landman. Along the way, they compare their own takes with AI’s guesses, debate a few tough calls, and talk about why certain casts feel so complete and memorable.

You’ll hear how different Enneagram ...

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Are you born your Enneagram type, or does life shape it? In this episode, we finally stop trying to pick a side and walk through what both nature and nurture could look like for all nine types.

Damon and Kelly break down how each type might show up from birth, how life experiences reinforce it, and the underlying “strategy” each type develops to feel loved, safe, or secure. If you’ve ever wondered why you are the w...

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Are you born with your Enneagram type, or is your personality shaped by family, environment, and early experiences? In this episode, Damon and Kelly dig into the nature vs nurture question through the lens of the Enneagram, childhood temperament, birth order, attachment, and growth. You’ll hear why this question matters, what psychology and lived experience suggest, and why your story still matters even if parts of your perso...

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We’ve talked motivation, fear, and sabotage, and now Damon and Kelly bring the series in for a hopeful landing with real growth steps for every Enneagram type.

You’ll hear what growth looks like for Types 1 through 9, from letting go of perfection, to asking directly for help, to resting without earning it, to staying present in discomfort, speaking up, and taking action. If you have ever wondered what real change actual...

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Every Enneagram type has a strength that helps them shine, until it gets overused and starts causing damage. In this episode, Damon and Kelly unpack how each type’s greatest gift can quietly turn into a defense mechanism, and how to spot that shift before it hurts your relationships, leadership, or self-awareness.

From Type 1’s integrity becoming criticism, to Type 9’s peace becoming disappearance, this episode wal...

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Okay BYN friends, this one’s a little ominous, in a helpful way. Damon and Kelly walk through the core fear underneath each Enneagram type, and how fear becomes a “silent motivator” that can hijack your tone, your choices, and your relationships when you’re not paying attention.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

  • Why core fears often run the show subconsciously, especially under stress
  • The core fear f...
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Motivation is the “why” underneath what we do, and it’s one of the easiest Enneagram concepts to misunderstand. In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly break down Enneagram motivation in a clear, practical way, starting with the three triads and then moving into how each type expresses its core driver.

You’ll learn why the Heart Triad (2–4) is driven by approval/validation, the Head Triad...

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We start with lint (dryer fires and all), then realize we mean Lent, and we actually go there.

If you’ve never practiced Lent, or you grew up doing it and still aren’t sure what to do with it, this episode makes it simple. Kelly connects Jesus’ three temptations to the Enneagram triads (gut, head, heart), then gives practical Lent invitations for every Enneagram type (1–9), including whether you should give s...

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February 11, 2026 29 mins

We’re back after an unplanned missed week, and yes, we finally tell the rest of the Jamaica story, including flight chaos, reroutes, and the unwanted souvenir of Influenza A.

Then we wrap up our Subtypes series with Enneagram Type 9 (the Peacemaker) and why “if you ignore it, it will go away” is both relatable and… not really true. We break down the three 9 subtypes and how each one pursues peace, avoids con...

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January 28, 2026 32 mins

This week’s episode isn’t fully evergreen, because it’s recorded right as Kelly is leading a VU service trip to Jamaica and a major winter storm is about to hit the Midwest. That real-time pressure makes it the perfect setup for Enneagram Type 8 subtypes, because you hear “8 energy” in action: decision-making, urgency, leadership, control, and the tension of letting go when the outcome is out of your h...

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January 21, 2026 22 mins

Enneagram Type 7 subtypes are all about how joy, possibility, and future-focused energy show up through different instincts, and the differences are bigger than most people expect. In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly break down the self-preservation, social, and one-to-one Type 7, including why some Sevens look surprisingly “responsible,” why others fill every open space on the calendar, and why the i...

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January 14, 2026 26 mins

Enneagram Type 6 subtypes are all about safety and security, and they look very different depending on the instinct. In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly break down the self-preservation, social, and one-to-one Type 6, including why Six often gets confused with other types and how motivation clarifies what is really going on.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • What drives Type 6 (safety and security), and how ...
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January 7, 2026 24 mins

Season 4 is here, it is 2026, and we start exactly how you would expect: a little off the rails. Damon declares a “set the bar low” resolution, Kelly introduces the better idea (rhythms over resolutions), and together they officially “jump the shark” before re-centering on Enneagram subtype layers. This episode focuses entirely on Type 5, breaking down the self-preservation, social, and one-to-one (sexual) e...

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December 17, 2025 22 mins

We are officially off the rails. Kelly is campaigning hard for “baby AI” versions of us. After we recover, we get back to what actually matters: subtype layers. In this episode we break down Enneagram Types 3 and 4 through the self-preservation, social, and one-to-one lenses, naming the strengths and watch-outs for each subtype. If you have ever wondered why some Threes feel like tireless workers while others feel like ...

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