July 22, 2025 • 50 mins
Layne Boyce stood up on an airplane and preached the gospel.
Not because she had a mic.
Not because she felt ready.
But because the Holy Spirit told her to.
That moment wasn’t an outlier -it was just a typical day in her yearlong commitment to share Jesus with a stranger every single day.
In this episode, we talk about where that boldness comes from, what it costs, and how God moves when we stop worrying about looking weird and just obey.
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Layne (00:00):
the Holy Spirit was like, you're gonna stand up
(00:01):
on this airplane and you'regoing to just open air, preach.
So I did.
Yeah.
How could I not share that?
How selfish of me to justnot tell people, even if
it makes me look weirdor stupid or embarrassed like.
Who cares.
Kayley (00:20):
Well, hello everybody.
This is your Bible Bishpodcast host Kayley Bishop,
and I am so excited to bringmy girl Layne Boyce into the
studio to share with you allof the amazing things that
God is doing in her life.
And let me tell you,it's big and it's bold.
And she puts me to shame, man.
(00:41):
She is going out thereferociously talking about
Jesus, and I'm just so excitedthat you're here, Layne.
Layne (00:47):
I'm so excited to be here.
Kayley, thank you somuch for inviting me.
Kayley (00:51):
I mean, as soon as I walked in, you
were just effervescent.
I was like, she isready to just go.
Off to the races.
We're letting her out of thegate and she's gonna go run
with the Holy Spirit wind.
That's right.
That fresh wind.
Amen.
Okay.
So I just learned that youare studying commercial
voice at Belmont University.
(01:11):
Yes.
And I knew you werea Belmont student.
You're a senior, you'reabout to graduate.
Yep.
But I had no idea for somereason that you were a singer
because I'm so focused on theJesus complex in your life.
Um, but to all of y'allthat are listening.
The first time I metLayne was at my house.
Yeah.
Which was like, howdoes that happen?
Well, I met Layne through aBible study that I attend on
(01:33):
Tuesday mornings off of MusicRow, and we were meeting out of
my house this specific Tuesdaymorning and she showed up and
I just remember sitting withLayne on my couch and having the
best Spirit-filled conversationand I was just like, there
is something on this girl.
She gets it, she knows it.
Mm-hmm.
And so with that said, I justwant you to let them know
like what is your Jesus story?
(01:54):
When did faithbecome real to you?
What was the conversionbreaking moment for you?
Layne (01:59):
Yeah, so honestly, I came to Jesus two
years ago and it was mysophomore year of college.
And similar to a lot of people,I grew up in a Christian
household where we went tochurch and knew it was the right
thing to do, but I was stillliving a double life and didn't
feel any conviction about theway I was living, and was just
thinking I can live howeverI wanna live and then still
(02:21):
love God and believe in him.
Um, but it was my sophomoreyear in February, 2023 when I
had a huge turnaround momentand I fully encountered Jesus
and surrendered my life.
Repented and acceptedhim into my heart.
Kayley (02:35):
What happened in that?
Like was there arelationship that went sour?
Like what was the breakingpoint for you to be like,
I actually need God?
Layne (02:43):
Yeah.
Honestly, I came to the end ofmyself and I was realizing that
I was trying to put my identityand satisfaction in things that
were ultimately fleeting Okay.
And weren't filling me.
And there was still thatGod-sized hole in my heart where
I was like, I'm missing him.
Mm-hmm.
And so basically I cameto the end of myself.
And I realized, wow, noneof this is gonna work.
Um, I tried when, when itcame to success or money or
(03:06):
relationships, even just goodthings, um, that ultimately
Jesus can only satisfy.
Yeah.
And so I cried out tohim one night and I was
like, Jesus, I need you.
And he met me there.
And that was actually amonth before I was saved.
And that was a true momentwhere I opened my heart to him
and realized I needed a savior.
And a month later at arevival at Belmont that
(03:26):
started in Asbury, Kentucky.
I don't know if youheard of the revival.
Oh my
Kayley (03:29):
God, I do remember that.
Yeah.
Me and a dear friend ofmine, he's actually my
drummer, spirit-filledman, adore him so much.
We were going on and onabout Asbury because there
was a huge revival thatwas lasting for a while.
Yes.
You were up there.
Layne (03:42):
I wasn't there, but it was so big that it was
spreading across America todifferent college campuses.
Wow.
Wow.
There was somethinghuge happening there.
Oh, God was moving like crazy.
And so basically, um, Belmontstudents hosted an atmosphere
for us to come and justbe in the presence of God.
And they shared the gospeland we were worshiping and
(04:02):
it lasted about a week.
And so I just felt led togo and I went by myself.
At this point, I didn't reallytruly know the Lord yet.
But I felt that tug.
Okay.
And so I just showed up andhe met me there during that
revival.
Kayley (04:15):
Okay.
So go back to when you, Iguess you were in your room
and you cried out for help.
Like How did Jesusshow up for you?
Because I think there'sa lot of people that.
Are, have probably been inthe same shoes as you, where
like they're living theirlife, but they're not really
fully submitted to God.
They don't really knowwhat it means to submit
their life to God.
Yeah.
Um, or what it means toreally ask him for help.
(04:36):
And so if, if you're, if you'reout there listening, I, I
really want Layne to explainthat a little bit more deeply
because there is a moment.
Yeah.
Like did you hearhim speak to you?
Layne (04:46):
There is a moment.
So it wasn't like anaudible voice at that time.
Okay.
It was like his peace justflooded me for the first time
and I just like felt his peace.
Mm. And just this knowingthat he was there.
Wow.
And he reassured me thathe was there and I began
to just read the Bible too.
And during that time hebegan to speak as well.
Kayley (05:05):
Did you think or did you, uh, react
differently to reading theBible post that encounter?
Because I'm sure youread the Bible before,
maybe not as often.
Yeah.
So what was it likereading scripture post
Jesus help me moment.
Yeah.
Layne (05:20):
It was like the words were just coming off the page
and truly coming into my heart.
And it was like, for thefirst time I was truly
coming to know the man Jesus.
Yeah.
And before it was like, youknow, growing up in summer camps
and going to church and, andhearing about Jesus and seeing
the scripture on the screens.
But I never really took thetime to pursue that on my own.
(05:40):
Mm. And that'ssomething huge that I always
promote is like buildinga relationship with Jesus.
Yeah.
And that it's not juston Sunday Services.
No.
Like he wants to talk with youevery single day and he wants
to have that relationship.
And so the difference wasthat I was seeking more.
Yeah.
I was seeking just by myself,just me and him, and not
in the church walls and notthrough my parents' faith, but
(06:02):
really making that decisionfor myself to follow him.
Kayley (06:05):
I was talking to somebody recently about the
Lord and yeah, it was, itwas at a believers event and
so I just assumed everybodythere kind of had some
sort of testimony with God.
Mm-hmm.
But there was this individualand they were like, you know, I,
I'll come to God, I just gottaclean up myself a little bit.
Like I just gotta takecare of some things before
I, you know, go to churchand like really dive in.
And I just waslike, you do know.
(06:27):
That's the point.
You have to go with your mess.
Like you don't catch afish before you clean it.
Right.
, Or you, you don't clean afish before you catch it.
I totally just butchered that.
It's fine.
It's totally fine.
I knew I knew what you were,you knew what I was saying.
But it's the samething with Jesus.
Like he, He wants you tobring your mess to him, right.
So that he can redeem it.
I mean, if, if we were, ifit was up to us to clean
(06:47):
ourselves before walking intothe church, then it would be
entirely performance based.
Exactly.
This faith performance based,and we will never measure
up, we will never performto the amount of perfection
that is required, right.
For us to have.
Have access to heaven.
Like we actually need thisgreat intercessor and mediator
who is Jesus and Amen.
I mean, he just allowsme to walk around free.
(07:10):
Yeah.
Like I don't have tothink about my crap.
I do.
I still do, but like I don'thave to think about it anymore.
He's so good.
Yeah.
Layne (07:16):
It's not that sin consciousness, it's
noticing that, wow, I'msaved by his grace through
putting my faith in him.
And through that, like naturallyour desires begin to change.
Yeah.
And I always talk abouthow like it's, it comes
with a surrendered heart.
Mm-hmm.
And lowering ourselvesand realizing like,
Lord, have my life.
Yeah.
Be Lord of my life.
It
Kayley (07:36):
really is true.
Humility.
Layne (07:37):
Humility.
Yes.
Kayley (07:39):
Okay.
So how does, how did yourfaith conversion change just
the dynamic for you in school?
Um, did that shift,like what you decided
to put an emphasis on?
Mm-hmm.
How did it changeyour family life?
Layne (07:52):
Yeah, so I would say when it came to school, um.
Being so focused on music.
That's been, that's alwaysbeen something that I've known
my entire life is singing,and I've been doing it ever
since I was a little girl.
And after I met Jesus, thenI began writing Christian
music and writing about him.
And then I began listeningto mostly Christian music.
(08:13):
And it was like he was justbeginning to just change what
I was putting out and also whatI was digesting and like the
music that I was listening to.
And it's like I realizedthat the gifts that I've
always had now get tobe used for his glory.
Yeah.
And that's the beautifulthing, is like he puts gifts
in every single person.
Mm-hmm.
And then once we meet Jesus,then he shows us how he
(08:36):
wants us to steward those.
And so I would say that'show it shifted with.
School and with family.
When I first met Jesus, theywere like, what happened to you?
Like something is different.
They were like,are you a nun now?
Like is this likeyour new phase?
Like what is happening?
Yeah, because it was drastic.
Yeah.
Like I'm tellingyou, I had a 180.
Wow.
It was like I walked in tothat revival, like completely
(08:58):
different person than whenI walked out of there.
Wow.
Yeah.
Kayley (09:03):
Wow.
Yeah.
And you know, I feel like that'smy life too, in a lot of ways.
Or maybe it was like moreof a slow progression.
But there, it, there wasdefinitely a moment where
I had to take off thecrown and put it on him.
Yes.
And be like, you know, Idon't wanna be the king of my
life or the queen of my life.
Like I really messed it up.
I should not be in charge of me.
I really shouldn't.
But with the giftings, Iunderstand what you're saying.
(09:23):
Like, you, youstart to think of.
Just music and what you doand how it can glorify God.
Yeah.
I remember everything changedfor me performance wise when I
started approaching the stage.
Not from a place ofreceiving something from
the audience, right.
But actually giving thegift that I'd been given.
Layne (09:40):
That's so good.
Kayley (09:41):
And it actually changed.
Just how nervous I get on stage.
Like I don't reallyget nervous very much.
Yeah.
Because my focus is not on me.
Layne (09:48):
Wow.
I'm so glad you'retalking about this.
'cause this is a real thingthat happened to me too.
Kayley (09:52):
Yeah.
And your focus actuallybecomes externalized.
Exactly.
You start to care moreabout the souls in the room.
Yep.
And how, what you're saying, andsinging can minister to them.
That's right.
Yeah.
And it's not about you.
And like obviously like whenyou get an applause or when
you get some feedback from theaudience, it fuels your fire.
Yep.
Puts wind in your sails.
It lets you know thatthey're awake, that they're
listening, that they'rereceiving, and it can, you
(10:13):
know, fill you, fill you up.
But like at the same time, mygreatest accomplishments on
stage are after I get off and Ihave people come up to me with
tears in their eyes and sayinglike, wow, I really needed that.
Mm. That's when it's like,okay, we're, we're tracking.
Yeah, we're cooking with grease.
Layne (10:28):
Yep, that's right.
And like even recently atBelmont, like we have these
seminars where we sing for ourclassmates and my instructor
and classmates would say, justevery time you get up there, I
just see this light around you.
And I just feel like this,like joy and like, like
are just brought to tears.
And I know that it's Jesusthrough me because every
time that I speak, I singit's not about me anymore.
(10:51):
Yeah.
And it's literally,God use me as a vessel.
And as I speak, as I sing, haveyour way and I want people to
encounter your presence and Iwant people to feel your love.
And that has completelychanged things, like
you said, with nerves.
My nerves have likelowered so much.
It's actually crazy'cause I'm like, wow.
It's just such an honor and ablessing and privilege to just
(11:11):
do everything for his glory.
And there is scripture that hespoke to me months back that
have literally changed me.
And it's Matthew five 14through 16 that says, you
are the light of the world.
Yes.
A town built on a hill cannot behidden neither mm. Do you light
a lamp and put it under a bowl.
Yes.
Instead, you put it on itsstand and it gives light
(11:32):
to everyone in the house.
Yes.
So that everyone can seeyour good deeds and glorify
your father in heaven.
And so it's realizing, wow, likethe light he's put within me.
It's for others.
Yeah.
It's so great.
It's just such a beautifulthing just to allow him
to have his way through us.
Kayley (11:47):
I, you know, it's funny that that verse really hit you
because that hit me last year.
I was actually, wow.
When I sang at the Ryman.
Yeah.
I sang, you're My Sunshine.
And I quoted that scripturebecause to me, like the most
powerful thing you can dowith your gift is to put
it on a stand and allow theentire room to be illuminated.
Yes.
And that's what our gifts do.
And that's like when wesubmit 'em to the Lord.
It's like you don't wannahide good things, you
(12:08):
wanna put 'em on display.
And the idea of it illuminating,like allowing people to
see through the dark.
Yeah.
There's something reallyprofound about that.
There really is.
Layne, I am, I'm justimpressed by you.
I mean, I look, I rememberback when I was a senior
in college and goodness, Ididn't even know who I was.
I was sort of leadingbible studies, but at the
same time, like didn'treally have this huge,
(12:31):
crazy life changingmoment with God.
Yeah.
I think I was still my owngod and yeah, I didn't really
have a lot of mentorshipand so yeah, I just, I love
that you're sitting here andthat you are like a Timothy,
you're like a young Daniel.
Mm-hmm.
You're going outboldly and bold Boyce.
Bold Boyce, Layne bold Boyce.
Layne (12:49):
I receive that
Kayley (12:51):
and so , really the reason I wanted
you on this podcast.
Is to talk about this crazyinitiative that you've
started, and I just want youto tell everybody about it.
I know you've called itJesus 365, but mm-hmm.
Tell everyone what it is, andI just wanna hear you pop off
about it because I'm just.
So impressed.
Layne (13:08):
Yes.
I'm so excited toshare about it.
So the Jesus 3 6 5movement was actually
started by Trinity Queen.
Shout out to her.
She's such a sweet sisterin Christ, and she started
this movement last year.
And then for this yearof 2025, she's invited
believers to join in.
Okay.
And so basically we sharedJesus with someone every
(13:28):
single day of the year.
And so through that I waslike, I'm up for this challenge
because I had already beenfeeling God stirring me.
Wow.
To be more bold in my faith.
Wow.
And sharing his goodness.
Because last summer I hadthis moment where I was
like, man, I literally havethe truth that sets other
people free within me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How could I not share that?
How selfish of me to justnot tell people, even if
(13:50):
it makes me look weird orstupid or embarrassed, like.
Who cares.
Like people need to know Jesus.
They're all looking for him.
And so I was like,you, you know what?
It's on.
I'm gonna do it.
So every day I've been postingtestimonials and conversations,
um, of interactions, justsharing Jesus with someone
every day and man, Godhas just moved so much.
(14:11):
Okay.
It's been amazing.
Kayley (14:12):
What day are you on now?
Layne (14:14):
Day 100.
This is day 100.
Oh my.
Today's day 100.
Did you alreadyshare Jesus today?
I did.
So today was so fun.
I actually had like 15 minutesin between classes and I said,
okay, Lord, like I have enoughtime to talk with someone.
Just lead me where to go.
I see these frat guys walkingon campus with a megaphone,
and I was like, okay, I'mgonna go chase after them.
(14:34):
So I go up to them, I'mlike, Hey, can I pay you
$5 to use your megaphone?
And I literally shouted thegospel from the rooftops.
I was like, what a.
What a crazy, fun day.
100 that, what did theysay God had in store?
They were totally cool with it.
They were cheering iton, so it was great.
Kayley (14:50):
I am just like, I, you know, I, I share
the Lord a lot with randompeople that I meet in.
Yeah.
In life, just because I want to.
And at some point when you'rewalking in the fruit of the
spirit, like yes, they willknow you by their fruit.
That's right.
You will know them by theirfruit and so it's like, you know
that the patience, kindness,gentleness, self-control.
(15:11):
Faithfulness, like all ofthose things that are a
byproduct of knowing God, youexemplify them as you go about.
Yeah.
And so when they're sayinglike, there's just this glow
about you Layne, I mean it's,it's totally the fruit of
the Holy Spirit, like youare that self-controled,
patient, kind woman of God.
And when people encounterkindness, they're like,
(15:31):
wait, there's somethingdifferent about you.
Yeah.
And then you're like, well,I'll tell you what it is.
I've got the keysto the kingdom.
That's right.
You want, you wanna take a ride?
Like I'll, I'lltell you how it is.
And I've actually started,like with this podcast, I
really wanted to make merch.
That was, I. Like covertChristian and overt Christian,
and the covert stuff would belike conversation starters.
Yeah.
(15:52):
And it's working because Iput on a hat 9 3 7, which
stands for Matthew 9 37for the harvest is plenty,
but the laborers are few.
Mm-hmm.
And I put that on ahat, just 9, 3, 7.
And this gentleman I waseating at, at a diner in West
Nashville called Wendell's.
It's my favorite little spot.
And this old man waslike, excuse me, I wanna
know about your hat.
And I just slid right upto him and I was like.
(16:13):
Oh, do you, let me tell you.
And we had this beautifulconversation and he's since
like subscribed and he'slike, man, you're like,
you're one of the real ones.
Wow.
Because you know, in a seaof people that proclaim
Jesus, very few are actuallywalking with him and know him.
Yeah.
And being bold and Yeah.
Like with the understanding thatthe best gift you can give is
(16:34):
that breakthrough for someone.
Yes.
And so, okay, I've said enough.
Keep going.
I wanna hear.
Like the worst experienceyou've had in this situation
so far in this this time?
Oh my gosh.
Layne (16:45):
Yeah.
So honestly, the first thingthat comes to mind is a
one-on-one encounter I hadwith someone and I just went
up to him and it was in myapartment complex, like in
the front office, and I wasjust asking him questions and
I asked him if I, if I couldshare the gospel with him.
And prior to asking, he wasmentioning that, he's like,
yeah, like I do go to church.
And basically thathe was a believer.
(17:06):
And as soon as I mentioned thegospel, he got really angry and
like didn't wanna hear about it.
And I was like, what?
Like how does that makesense if he's a believer?
And so that was definitely anexperience that threw me off.
And I was what like, and that'seven happened before with
like, um, Boldy proclaimingthe gospel, like open
air preaching and things.
Sometimes even believerswill get uncomfortable and
be like, oh, I don't reallylike the way that you did it.
(17:28):
Right.
But ultimately.
Like scripture says, aslong as it's being told.
You know, like, wow, that'ssomething to celebrate.
And that's what we'reall called to do, um, is
to share the good news.
So I would say that's likethe first, um, incident
that comes to mind.
Kayley (17:42):
Okay.
Yeah.
What is your favorite so far?
Layne (17:44):
My favorite?
I would say, honestly, thiskind of ties into that.
It's kind of like.
It was a hard one, but itwas also like one of my
favorites is I was on anairplane and these are like
all the crazy bold stories.
Most,
Kayley (17:58):
is this the one you posted?
Layne (17:59):
Yes.
Kayley (18:00):
This one freaked me out in the best way.
I was like, oh my goodness.
You're like, what?
Layne (18:04):
And most of the, most of like, um, my like conversations
with people are one-on-one,but like, this is just like one
of those really bold momentswhere the Holy Spirit was
like, you're gonna stand upon this airplane and you're
going to just open air, preach.
So I did.
And there was these ladiesthat were getting super
angry and like yelling at me.
I've never hadthat happen before.
Like I've never beenlike yelled at to stop.
(18:26):
And in that momentI was like, oh.
And then I realized, I waslike, wait, this is just
like, they're just mad 'causeI'm talking about Jesus.
Like I gotta keep goingbecause it's Jesus.
There's clearly someonewho needs to hear
this on this airplane.
Woo.
So I kept going and it wasone of my favorites because
afterwards, like I had alady come up to me and we
prayed together, I feltled to go up to another
couple in the back of theairplane and prayed for them.
(18:47):
Like God moved on that plane.
Wow.
Um, even with the persecution.
So that was a really,really cool incident.
Kayley (18:58):
Like you don't just out of nowhere decide to
stand up on an airplane whilepeople are getting seated,
putting their luggage up inthe bins and all of a sudden
just start proclaiming.
I mean, have you, have youever been to New York City?
I have.
Have you been on the subways?
Layne (19:13):
Uh, I think so.
It was like my freshmanyear of high school.
Okay.
So, so I had to have, yeah.
Kayley (19:17):
I mean, it's really common in most subways where
you'll get these people thatkind of walk through the
subway trains and they startspitting their preaching
or whatever it is Yeah.
That they're saying.
Or like they're, they'retrying to like peddle
for money or whatever.
And it just reminded me ofthat because oftentimes, I
mean, it's just so normal.
Nobody really paysattention too much.
Yeah.
Of the subway crazy people.
(19:39):
But for you to get upon the plane, I just.
I was like, Lord, this isreally outstanding, and
something I feel like Idon't see in young people.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I really feel likeyou're in a league of your own.
Hmm.
And I mean, how doesthat feel though for you?
Do you feel isolated?
Do you feel likeyou're on an island?
Especially compared to peoplethat are your age but are like
(20:02):
way more immature in theirfaith, where are you sitting
right now in your community?
Layne (20:05):
Yeah, I would say God is actually so good.
He's so faithful because heliterally at the perfect timing
opened a door for me to be partof a ministry called Pulse 100,
and it's literally a hundredevangelists from across America
from the ages of like 18 to 25.
So I, I'm like literallyin this community of
99 other evangelists.
(20:26):
And so we cheer each otheron and they're also super
bold in their faith and lovesharing Jesus with people.
So like, if anything, it'sjust set more of a fire in
my heart to know, wow, I'mreally not alone doing this.
And even when I come backto Nashville and I'm just
going about my day by myself,evangelizing, knowing that I
have my brothers and sistersin Christ who are also doing
the same thing wherever they'replanted and their harvest is.
(20:50):
So it's actually been sobeautiful, um, and I've been
a part of this community forthe past like eight months, and
we've been just growing togetherand having masterclasses
and retreats and girl Yeah.
Cheering each other on.
Kayley (21:01):
So how has your life changed?
Since, since all ofthis started, since
Jesus, 365, day one.
Layne (21:09):
I mean, I think back to like last summer when God called
me to start posting on socialmedia and I said, God, I don't
even really like social media.
Like I don't want it.
And he was like, no,like you're gonna start
posting videos about me.
So I was actually sharing just.
Scriptural videos and just Sure.
Topics that God wasputting on my heart.
And that's how things started.
Yeah.
And then once I got involvedwith Pulse in the fall, and then
(21:31):
once this Jesus 3, 6, 5 movementhappened, it's like things just
started to get the ball rolling.
And then these videos andcontent just became about
that Jesus 3, 6, 5 movement.
Yeah.
And sothrough there, I've had more
opportunities to not only likesing, but to speak and to write.
And so it's been really coolto see how God is showing me.
I know you mentionedthis earlier that like.
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It's not just your voice.
Mm-hmm.
That you know, likeyou're his daughter.
And similar for me, he'sbeen teaching me like beyond
being his daughter firstand foremost, that like, not
only am I a singer, but I'm acommunicator, you really are
speaking, writing, and singing.
And so he's really just showedme that he wants to use me
in all three of those areas.
Kayley (22:10):
So when did you first open air preach?
Layne (22:13):
Hmm.
Actually New Year's Eveon an airplane on it.
Kayley (22:16):
So you've done an airplane thing
multiple times now?
Yeah.
Stop.
Layne (22:20):
Yeah.
Something will just take overand the Holy Spirit's like,
yeah, there's, you're goingto preach to this whole plane.
Kayley (22:27):
I am shooketh . Yeah.
Okay.
Well, how did that go?
Layne (22:31):
It went really good and it was like I wasn't,
it was just super quickand it wasn't like I was
shouting it from the rooftops.
It was just like, Hey,everybody, like to, everyone
who was around me and justshared the gospel and people
were clapping and actuallyafter, I love that, that
encounter, um, and doing that.
I think it was that airplanewhere this woman turned
around and said, or maybethis is a different airplane.
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I, I'm getting 'em all,they're, they're all kind
of like blended together.
But, um, this woman turnedaround and she was like, I
literally am like on my wayback from, I think she was like
at a psych ward or something.
Oh.
And she was like, I literallywas in su, a super depressive
state and I met God thereand he gave me hope.
And I said, and I said,can I pray for you?
Like Jesus loves you?
And so literally like.
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If I wasn't obedient likethat divine appointment
wouldn't have happened.
Ugh.
So good.
Like she literally was just inthe pit and like going through
so much darkness and strugglethat showed her God and his
faithfulness and literallylike got to pray for her and
she just got to encounterJesus again on that airplane.
Oh, you know, so good.
We never know how ourobedience don't is going
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to produce, produce fruit.
We don't.
It's fruit that's unseen.
Some of it's directfruit and we see it, but
a lot of it's not seen.
Kayley (23:40):
Yeah, you don't know.
Layne (23:41):
It's like we don't know.
Kayley (23:42):
That's one question I'm gonna have for the
Lord, be like, okay.
Yeah.
All the times that Iobeyed and I didn't see
the result of obedience,like can you just show me?
Yeah.
I just wanna see.
Yeah.
And out of my own curiosity,not that I need the
validation, but you know,he's working so much together.
Yeah.
At the same time he is.
And especially the, thelong-term obedience moments
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where you did somethingyears ago and then.
It slaps you in the face10 years later and you're
like, wow, I had no idea.
Yeah.
And sometimes that happensto me, like people that have
been following me for years,they'll be like, you know, I
never told you this, but yearsago you said this and it.
Changed me here.
And I'm like, wow.
It's so comforting.
I actually had a momentof obedience recently that
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inspired more obedience.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm gonna talk aboutmy roommate who's actually
in the studio right now.
I just love her so much.
But I decided to get baptizedagain, um, because I heard
a message about baptism andit was just put so plainly
to me that baptism is theoutward declaration of
the inward, of the inward.
Conversion or change.
Yeah.
And it's similar to, youknow, like people wearing,
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um, a wedding band.
It, it symbolizes, oh, Ihave made a covenant with
another, we are married andthis is my declaration of
this, like my outward symbol.
Mm-hmm.
And I was thinking tomyself like, I got baptized
before there was reallya heart conversion.
I, I think I need to doit in the right order now.
Mm-hmm.
And.
Part of me was like, I mean,is it really necessary?
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Like, I'm really walking withyou, God, like I know I've
been baptized, but like, whatdo you wanna do with this?
But I just knew he wanted to,and I seized the opportunity.
Ended up going to OklahomaCity, brought my friend and
my roommate with me and I wasleading worship in the church.
And then at the fourth serviceI was gonna get baptized.
And right before the fir fourthservice started, they made an
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announcement that there wasgonna be a second baptism.
And I look over and Iwas like my roommate.
Oh my goodness.
She's getting baptized too.
And it was like the bestgift I could have been given.
And I just remember telling thegirls, even beforehand, I said,
I really want a fresh word whenI come up outta that water.
And they were like,well, what was the word?
And I said that my obedienceled to somebody else obeying.
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Wow.
And I'm like, that is so good.
Like.
Lord, you're so kind.
Because I didn't reallyknow what we were doing.
I didn't have like flashinggreen lights like move ahead.
I just had like a whisper.
Yeah, just a nudge.
Yep.
And I thought to myself,what is this gonna hurt?
Yep.
Now I get to proclaim Jesus.
Now I get to explain likethe fruit of knowing him
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and really what baptism is.
Yeah.
A declaration of what hasbeen converted inside.
Amen.
I'm like that people needto know that people are
getting baptized left andright and they're, they're
just getting sprinkled withwater like they're Yeah.
And don't even understand.
They're just getting wet.
Like the Yeah.
Like, yep.
But there's so much more likethe spiritual implication.
Layne (26:27):
Water and spirit.
Kayley (26:28):
Water and spirit.
Yeah.
And so I love that youbrought up that obedience,
that obedience momentbecause it's so good.
It is.
Okay.
So how do you feel justobeying in walking in Jesus.
3, 6, 5. Yeah.
How do you feel likeobedience has changed your
relationship with God?
Layne (26:48):
Hmm.
Well, I've been learningthat God loves obedience.
Yeah.
He blesses obedience.
Yeah.
And the more that we'refaithful with the little,
then he gives more.
And so we have to learnhow to steward those little
moments where he is like,Hey, will you do this for me?
You're like, Hey, I wantyou to talk to that person.
Hey, I want you to post this.
I want you to reachout to this person.
The little nudges, it's likethe more that we're in tune
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with those, not only is itliterally being obedient to
him, but it's actually gonnado something fruitful in our
lives too and for others.
And so obedience is justlike this beautiful cycle
of walking with the Lord.
And it's like, I wannabe part of the miracles.
Yeah, totally.
I wanna be part ofwhat he's doing.
Me too.
And so just tuning in and beinglike, Lord, like I'm open.
Yes.
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Anywhere that I go, I inviteyou with me and I wanna
be aware of your voice.
Yes.
And in tune with the HolySpirit because it's so easy
to just coast through our day.
And this is why likeJesus, 3, 6, 5 has really
helped just create a habitof being intentional.
Thinking about, Hey, isthere anyone like in this
place that I'm in that Ican just tell them about?
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Jesus?
Kayley (27:51):
It's so good.
It's always on the forefront.
Layne (27:52):
It's always on the forefront.
It's just gotten in thathabit every day of, okay,
like, like I literally amgoing to share Jesus with at
least one person, and there'ssome days where it just feels
impossible and I don't want to.
But that obedience part andthat challenge of doing it
every day has helped to stepoutta that comfort zone.
Kayley (28:08):
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay, so.
I wanna go back a little bit.
You, you talk about like,I wanna tune in with God.
Yeah.
So that I can hear Holy Spirit.
Yeah.
What does that look like?
How would you explain, hearhow you hear Holy Spirit.
To someone who doesn'tknow if they do.
Layne (28:23):
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So God speaks in somany different ways.
And I love when youmentioned the gentle whisper.
Yeah.
Because a lot of thetimes that's what it is.
It's like that little tug,you feel it in your heart.
Um, he'll speak throughgiving you thoughts that,
you know, it's like, wait, Ididn't really think of that.
It just kind ofpops in your mind.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, I thinkGod's speaking to me.
Yeah.
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Um, through visions, dreams.
Through other people.
Mm-hmm.
Sometimes God will speakthrough someone and I'll
feel it in my heart and I'mlike, wow, I really feel
like God was speaking that.
Yeah.
Through them to me.
Yeah.
So God speaks in somany different ways.
Even like the other nightI was, I had this song on
my heart earlier that day.
And later that night Iclosed up my journal.
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As soon as I did that song,started playing on, on shuffle
and I realized that God wantedme to receive and listen to
the lyrics, and I just weptbecause I knew that he was
speaking to me through a song.
Oh, so good.
So he'll speak in so manydifferent ways and like
on a day-to-day basis oflike, okay, Holy Spirit,
like lead me to like who totalk to and just like how
to move and what to say.
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It's honestly just beingopen and surrendered as a
vessel, if that makes sense.
Yeah.
Of like give me the words tosay, give me the questions to
ask, highlight a person to me,and just like that constant
back and forth, because he'salways speaking, but sometimes
we're not positioned tolisten and to hear his voice.
Kayley (29:42):
Ain't that the truth?
Layne (29:43):
And that that can come with distractions
and just busyness.
Um, and even just beingreally tuned into our
own voice when Godspeaks himself.
Kayley (29:52):
I mean, that, I feel like that's been
a big pitfall for me.
And I remember last year I sawa post and it just shook me.
It said Jesusdidn't run anywhere.
He walked.
Yeah.
And also, 50% of hismiracles took place at the
hand of an interruption.
Hmm.
And I was like.
Okay, I'm running everywhereand I need to slow down.
Yep.
And if I'm running everywhere,then that means I'm less
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inclined to be interruptedbecause I'm so consumed
with my order of business.
Yeah.
My to-do list.
And I'm like, I've gotta allowmyself to be more interruptible.
And I think because I sloweddown, especially this first
quarter of the, of 2025.
It was almost like God startedreally working in me to do this
podcast and bringing all thepieces together and, and he's
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just like, you know, you, youlove being productive, Kayley.
And I'm like, I really do.
Thanks forunderstanding that Lord.
He goes, but the crazy thingabout productivity is that.
Jesus was so productive,and all he did was walk.
He's like, just trust me.
Don't stop.
Like getting out from beside me.
Just walk with me in stride.
Yeah.
Where we're going.
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And you're gonna bemore productive than
you could ever imagine.
Mm, that's good.
And I'm just like, why did Ithink that I had to run this
way and this way and this way?
Exactly.
It literally is like, okay,God, you can have the keys
to the car, but I'm gonnayell directions at you.
From the, from likethe shotgun seat.
Yeah.
It's like, andthere are days that.
I still do that.
Just like there's days whenyou're like, I don't wanna
witness to anybody today.
Layne (31:18):
Like, and then my flesh is like, Ugh,
I don't feel like it, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it just feels likea lot right now to like,
take time outta my dayto talk with someone.
I'm like that.
Okay.
That's not of the Lord.
Like my spirit is definitelywilling, my flesh on the
other hand is like, Igotta other things to do.
I'm carried away in my own to-dolist, like you said, like, yeah.
It.
Yeah, it's hard.
Kayley (31:36):
Well, and you're also a woman too.
It's like hormonally, likewe're operating on a different
rhythm and there are certaintimes where it's like, I
don't wanna talk to anybody.
I look like a frog.
I feel like a frog.
I am mean hateful and ornery.
And I have no businesstalking about Jesus
to anybody right now.
Layne (31:53):
Or even times where like there'll be like a
few days or a week whereI feel distant from God.
Oh yeah.
And I'm like, where is he?
Like, did he leave me?
Like, oh, like I don'tfeel his presence.
And we know that he'salways still there.
Right.
Even when we don't physicallyknow and like feel his presence,
we know he's still there andhe is still good and faithful.
But there are definitelytimes where I'm like, I'm
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not on my A game right now.
Yeah.
Like I feel like I'mnot even tight with God.
How am I supposed to talkwith someone else about him.
Yeah.
And share his love.
Because something I have learnedwith evangelism too is like from
a place of receiving his loveand from that place of rest.
Yeah.
That it's like an overflow.
Yes.
And the overflow is thebest way to share Jesus.
Because you're alreadylike, man, I'm just
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receiving his love.
Yes.
I'm not striving.
It's just flowing.
And people feel that.
They feel his love through that.
Kayley (32:42):
Oh, that's so good.
Yeah.
I was actually talkingabout this with a friend.
The idea of.
Being in rest.
Yep.
And encountering his gloryin rest because we're so used
to being a human doing, we'renot a human being anymore.
And if we really
Layne (32:55):
Mary Martha, that's what I think about.
Kayley (32:56):
Yes.
Martha.
Very, very Martha.
And I'm like, okay, God,like you, you keep nudging
me into this place of thebest, most important thing
in my day is discipleship.
And that's literallyme being with you.
Wow.
That's beautiful.
That's just me being.
With you, God.
Yeah.
And he's like, justlet me grow you up.
Let me like pour in so thatyou do have an overflow.
(33:18):
Yeah.
So it's like he doesn't expectus to carry on a ministry
without being first filled.
Layne (33:24):
Filled.
Yep.
There's so many times hehas to slow me down and he's
like, daughter, you need tojust sit and be still, like,
I know you have all thesethings that you're feeling
like you wanna keep doing forme, but like once again, like.
You, my love for you doesn'tchange based off of what
you're doing for me or feelinglike you have to earn it.
Mm-hmm.
Or even the things that we'reco-laboring and doing together.
(33:47):
Yeah.
So that's the whole point.
Getting to do it with theLord and not like it's
so fun like the Lord.
It's alone.
Kayley (33:51):
It's so fun.
It's so fruitful.
He takes you on an adventure.
He does.
I'm like, when you follow thepromptings of the Lord, you
find yourself in positions.
You're like, I couldn'thave even made this up.
Exactly.
And then you're havingconversations and all
of a sudden you have newfriends that live in Hawaii.
You're like, I'm gonnaHawaii next month.
Like, like what?
What?
I mean that's whatfollowing the God Lord
is like, that's the Lord.
It is a theme park.
(34:12):
Yeah.
People think thatfollowing God is the lamest
squarest, "you can't doanything", nun- type life.
Layne (34:18):
It's the most freeing thing.
Kayley (34:19):
It is the most fun I've ever had in my life
adventure.
Yeah.
Hands down.
Hands down.
Layne (34:24):
Like I've tried a lot of different things.
Yes.
Like I've been there, likeI've tried going to different
atmospheres that seem likea good time and like chasing
that high, chasing that goodtime, that good feeling.
But I'm telling y'allthe Holy Spirit.
Woo.
He's a good time.
He's a good time.
Kayley (34:39):
And he also, he always makes me feel good about myself.
Layne (34:42):
Peace, joy, like,
Kayley (34:44):
like think about for those of y'all listening,
think about the personthat makes you feel like a
million bucks in your life.
Yeah.
Think about the person thatis always there to cheer
you on that that calls outthe good things in you.
And then multiply that by like.
10, 20,000, 50 millionand you're gonna get how
God can make you feel.
Yeah, totally.
Okay.
So actually on that trackof feelings, Uhhuh, you
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talk about when there aretimes you don't feel him.
Yeah.
But you just claimthat he's there.
I really believe that that isa mark of maturity in faith.
Mm. Because he wants to discipleyou into connecting with him
outside of a sensory experience.
Yep.
I mean, it's easy to havethe chills, and yet let
that be like a marker ofHoly Spirit's in the room.
Mm-hmm.
But also he wants us to grow inbeing able to decree and declare
(35:31):
that he is with us always.
And so that's How do younavigate ministering to people
when you don't feel anything?
Layne (35:38):
That's a really good question.
It's like I know that beyondmy, where I feel like I
am with God that day, andif I feel like he's far,
I still know the truth.
And so I remindmyself of the cross.
I remind myself of whathe's pulled me out of.
And that refreshes me even inthose days where I'm like, but
(36:00):
God, like I feel like you'refar right now, or I don't
feel your tangible presence.
It's like I can't denywhat he's already done.
Yeah.
So on those days ittakes me looking back.
Okay.
And reflecting.
Kayley (36:11):
That's good.
Layne (36:12):
And being like, you know, I remember two years ago when
he met me, I like, I've seenhis faithfulness these past two
years and just seeing like whathe's done and it's undeniable.
That he's the way, thetruth and the life.
And so regardless ofmy feelings, this is
literally taking me dyingto myself every day.
Yeah.
And saying, okay, God, likeregardless of my feelings, I'm
gonna step out and I'm open.
(36:33):
You have my Yes.
Yeah.
And there are peoplethat need to know you.
Regardless of what I feel,
Kayley (36:38):
I honestly like, I really think I do the same.
Yeah.
And one thing that has cometo be my greatest tool is kind
of obvious and explanatory.
It's the Bible.
Yeah.
I mean like, it's the momentswhen I don't feel God that these
verses that I've read severaltimes or meditated on or like
studied, they all come to mind.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, no, no, no, wait.
(36:59):
I have everything to combatmy lack of feelings or my
frustration or my confusion.
Yeah.
Literally in the word.
Yeah.
And this is to me, wherestudying the word regularly
is such a foundational toolfor us to say stay sane.
Mm-hmm.
I think the devil wants tocome in and, and because
we don't have feelings orbecause something's missing
(37:20):
or something has shifted,something doesn't feel good.
He wants us to forgetwhat God has done.
Yeah.
Because if he, if we'll forget,then we'll abort, we'll leave.
Mm-hmm.
We'll try to find somethingelse temporal that will satisfy.
Right.
And nothing else isgonna satisfy like him.
And all we're gonna do is findourselves living in regret.
Yep.
So, But I, I wanna also askyou How would you encourage
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someone that maybe has alwayswanted to share Jesus with
somebody and literally justdoesn't know what to do?
Layne (37:49):
Yeah.
I would say like somethingthat really helped me was
just starting with gettingin the habit of stepping
out of my comfort zoneto talk with strangers.
And so even if that meant justsimply saying, God bless you
to someone, or Jesus loves you.
I'm telling you at firstit feels so nerve wracking
because it's like, oh,what are they gonna think?
Like,
Kayley (38:09):
were you shaking?
I wonder if they Oh, for sure.
Layne (38:10):
I was shaking in my boots.
I was like, oh goodness,what are they gonna think?
But over time, like Ijust got in that habit and
then I started to share mytestimony more with people.
So when I'd be havingconversations and asking
them questions and Iwould get to share like my
story and what Jesus did.
And then eventually, um,more up to this point is
(38:31):
when I've just begun to like.
Share the gospel.
So it's like thoselike little steps.
Mm-hmm.
And we just take one stepand as we step out and even
do it afraid and like stepout in faith, like he's so
faithful to meet us and, andhelp us and walk with us as
we grow in that boldness.
And like I said, like Ido it scared sometimes.
Like there are momentswhere my flesh is like this
(38:52):
same.
This is crazy.
Or like, I don't want tough, but the Holy Spirit,
like he, he's willing and,and, and he'll give boldness
in those moments and hewill give the words to say.
so yeah, definitelytaking those steps.
Kayley (39:05):
That's so good.
Yeah.
I remember there was a timeI was in Miami, I was doing
this big photo shoot orvideo shoot for this thing.
Mm-hmm.
And I was just beginningto understand that God
was communicating tome through visions.
Mm. And I was reallyhaving a great time
exploring that with him.
And he was just blowingmy mind all the time.
Yeah.
And I had encountered, youknow, first Corinthians, or
(39:27):
is it second Corinthians?
It's talk about the gifts.
It's like right before loveis patient, love is kind.
Mm. And it talks aboutlike, you know, your gifts.
If, if you do not love, theyare like a clanging gong.
They're worthless.
Yeah, they're meaningless.
And, and that's when I realizedour gifts are for the kingdom.
And so even though I haddeveloped this beautiful way
of communicating with God,I knew that at some point it
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was gonna be used for others.
And I remember down in Miamiat this event, the girl
that was doing my makeup, Ilooked at her and I just had
this vision of her, um, notnecessarily of her actually.
It was a specific vision.
And, and I remember itwas just like a brick.
With, um, some flowersgrowing up out of the center,
and I had no idea what itmeant, but I'd just come off
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reading that in Corinthiansand I was like, shaking.
I was like, oh my gosh, Lord.
Like I feel likenow, now is the time.
You want me toactually to share it.
Share it.
And I was terrified.
I mean, you, I don'tknow her background.
I literally had just met her.
I was like, what isshe gonna say to me?
Does she even know Jesus?
I don't know what.
And I just looked ather and I said, Hey.
Um.
(40:28):
I just had a vision of you.
I explained the visionand then I said, I really
think it means that you'reblooming where you're planted.
And I had no ideawhat the vision meant.
I didn't know theinterpretation, but it's almost
like as soon as I decided tostep out and start speaking
what I saw to her in obedience.
Mm-hmm.
God, word for word, oneword at a time, gave me the
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interpretation of the vision
Layne (40:50):
download.
Yeah,
Kayley (40:51):
he downloads like he's waiting for.
It's the Moses sticking hisstaff into the Red Sea before
it parted that it was notgonna part before he did that.
Yeah, you have your faithis putting Yes decreeing and
doing what you think, whatGod said he was gonna do.
And so opening my mouth,beginning to tell her the
vision, and as soon as I explainit to her, she starts weep.
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And I'm just like, wow, Lord.
Like you were so on point.
But I was still so afraidto say it was from him.
Yeah.
I was terrified.
And so I come backhome from this thing.
I look at the call log, thecall sheet for all the people
that were on staff, find hernumber, and I text her and
I said, Hey, it's Kayley.
I just, you know, I wasthe one that talked to you.
I just wanna let you know,like I was afraid to say it,
(41:33):
but that was from the Lord.
That was from God.
And she, she was like,you have no idea how much
I needed to hear that.
Wow.
And it's like we're so afraidof what people are gonna
think that we don't obey.
Meanwhile, walking inobedience is setting
people free, literally.
It's like, why are wewithholding a good thing?
Layne (41:54):
That's such a beautiful testimony.
Kayley (41:55):
And so now I look at it as like, okay, is
what I'm about to share withsomeone comforting, edifying.
Yep.
Layne (42:02):
Encouraging
Kayley (42:03):
or encouraging.
Yep.
And, and if the answeris yes to all of that,
it's God's character.
Yes.
Is it God's character?
Because if so, I'mgonna share it.
Yeah.
And if I got it wrong by him,if I heard the wrong thing and
if's it's still all of thosethings, then I'm gonna say it.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna withhold.
Layne (42:19):
And that's what keeps a lot of us, like even me at
times too, from even beingobedient is, well what if it's,
what if I didn't get it right?
Like, or even with healinglike, well God, like I feel
like you're leading me to prayfor this person to get healed.
And what if theydon't get healed?
Or like, oh, I feellike you're giving me
a word for this person.
Like, what if it'snot from you though?
And it's like that unbeliefand that doubt that'll try
to slip in, but God is justliterally waiting for us
(42:42):
to have that faith to stepout and be obedient because
we don't know like howthat's gonna impact someone.
So your story is literally abeautiful like representation
of that obedience and how Godspoke directly to that girl
that you literally just met.
Kayley (42:56):
Oh, I had no idea.
Layne (42:57):
Like how else would you know?
It's the Lord.
Kayley (42:58):
I wouldn't know.
And that's why it's so muchfun walking with Holy Spirit.
It's so fun.
That, and that was yearsago and like, that was the
start of me really findingboldness of, yeah, sharing
things that were scary.
But like to your healingpoint of like, what if this
person doesn't get healed?
Like I know of a pastor whonow has a, a deliverance
healing ministry and hebelieved that he was being
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given the gift of healing.
Yeah.
The first thousand people heprayed for did not get healed.
Wow.
And even still on thethousandth person.
He said, just 'cause it's nothappening through my hands
doesn't mean God doesn't heal.
Layne (43:31):
That kind of faith, man.
Kayley (43:31):
That kind of faith,
Layne (43:32):
that kind of faith.
Kayley (43:33):
And it was like the damn broke.
And then all of a sudden, likethe power of healing is coming
through him, laying hands.
And it's just sometimes wehave to stir and contend,
and in the beginning whenwe're doing things, sometimes
we're doing things too muchfor ourself and not for God.
Layne (43:48):
Yes, yes.
Kayley (43:48):
He's like, you are still trying to do
this to get the glory.
Layne (43:51):
Right.
Kayley (43:51):
But I actually want the glory
Layne (43:53):
and it's like we seek Jesus and it's like all those
other things come with it.
Yeah.
Right.
Because like the scripture youwere talking about says is like,
we have to do it all in love.
Yes.
And it's not in love.
It's a clanging symbol.
So it's like seeking Jesusand through that naturally,
like all the other giftsand ways that he speaks and
wants to move in love happen.
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Yeah.
It's just part of walkingin his goodness in love.
Kayley (44:18):
It's so good.
Girl, you're so good.
I don't even knowwhat to do with you.
I'm just like.
The maturity in your faith?
Like what are what?
What do you want now?
Like say, Jesus 365 ends.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like what are you envisioningfor your life now?
What do you think Godis downloading for you
to prepare you for?
Layne (44:37):
Hmm.
Wow.
Honestly, this, my, my entirelife is just in his hands.
Like I, the word he gave me forthis year is Glory to glory.
Mm. And basically for thefirst time in my life, I'm
fully surrendering my plansand trusting his plans for me.
Mm. Andfor instance, like I would've
loved to stay here in Nashvilleand Music City, keep doing
music and staying in ministryhere, but he actually called
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me to missions this summer.
And so
Kayley (45:01):
where are you gonna go?
Layne (45:02):
I'll be, um, in Pacific Northwest of America
and Canada on the road.
Yeah.
Kayley (45:07):
Okay.
Now is this a ministrygroup that you'll be with?
Layne (45:10):
Yep.
So Every Heart, it'slike a branch of YWAM.
So I'll be with a team, um, for10 weeks and after that I have
no idea where I'm gonna be.
God's gonna show me.
I know that, but that'sjust the crazy thing about
faith is like, our livesare not our own anymore.
Kayley (45:25):
No.
They're not.
Layne (45:26):
Like, I just want what he has for me.
I Yeah.
It's an adventure talking.
Kayley (45:28):
It's better.
Layne (45:29):
You're talking about It's so much better.
Kayley (45:30):
It's way better.
It's like so much better.
I could have two penniesin the bank and it's
still way better with him.
Exactly.
It just doesn't matter.
Like you're happy withtwo pennies versus like 2
million and being completelyupset and sad and depressed.
Yep.
It's like, it's just your stateof mind, your state of spirit.
Yep.
Everything.
Layne (45:46):
So it's like my life.
I just feel like it's gonnalook so different from what
I ever saw it to be now thatI know him, because I'm just
open to whatever he has inhis timing and his will.
And however he wantsto use my gifts, if he
wants to use them at all.
Like that's it.
And I have so much peaceand contentment in that
because he's enough.
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It doesn't matter whereI am or how much I have.
He's enough.
Kayley (46:10):
You know, we hear that all the time, but I
think watching people walk itout is a whole nother story.
It's easy to say those words,but I know you're living
that and I know you actuallymean it and it's true to you.
Yeah.
There was a bookI read by Reese.
It's about Reese Howells, whowas the turn of the century
theologian, intercessor.
Do you know who he is?
Mm-hmm.
Oh my goodness.
(46:31):
It's an incredible book.
It's called Intercessor.
Yeah, and it reallyrevolutionized my prayer life.
But it also showed me thatwhen you give your life to
God, Holy Spirit is goingto ask to have domain in
every part of your life.
Layne (46:45):
Every part.
Kayley (46:46):
Every part.
And it's like, well, what?
Wait, what does that mean?
Well, Holy Spirit's gonnawanna have to have domain
in your reputation.
Like you no longer aregonna care about what
other people think of you.
Mm-hmm.
And you're just gonnafocus on what Holy
Spirit's asking you to do.
Layne (47:01):
We fear God, not man anymore.
Kayley (47:02):
Yeah.
And I mean, that's been such atug of war for me because Yeah.
You know, I've beena pe people pleaser.
I've been
Layne (47:09):
me too, girl
Kayley (47:09):
terrified of what people would think of me.
Layne (47:11):
Me too.
Kayley (47:12):
Like even this podcast, I'm like, I can't
even believe I'm here.
I just aired my dirty laundry.
Like,
Layne (47:15):
come on, only God.
Yeah.
Like seriously.
Kayley (47:18):
It's nuts, but it's, it's only him.
Yeah.
But then he, he shows methat he is safe for me.
That he as my refuge will bethe place where I find joy.
Mm. It's like he gives joy tothose who take refuge in him.
He does.
So even when I'm afraid of whatman's gonna think, I can just
run to his arms and know thatlike what he says is always the
(47:39):
right thing and the true thing.
Layne (47:41):
So good.
Yeah, man.
Amen sister.
Kayley (47:45):
He's so good.
So we're coming to the endhere and I. I want you to just
kind of pop off with whateverGod puts on your heart to
encourage any listener here,like what would be your last
word in regards to boldness?
How?
How do you wanna emboldenanyone listening to
this or watching this?
Layne (48:04):
Yeah.
When it comes to boldness,it comes from a place
of more surrender.
it's crazy because on theoutside you'll see me like
preaching on airplanes andeven like just how we've
shared these stories of beingincredibly bold, but it's like.
If it weren't for thesecret place and my alone
time with the Lord, thatboldness wouldn't be there.
Yeah.
(48:24):
Because it's not me,it's him through me.
Kayley (48:26):
Yeah.
Layne (48:26):
And so if you, if you wanna be more bold in your faith
and you're like, man, like I'vebeen keeping it to myself for
too long, like, now's the timeand the harvest is so plentiful.
Everyone's looking for Jesus.
Yeah.
So just know that even if youface persecution and you're
like, man, like I dunno whatpeople are gonna think or like.
This person rejectedme so hardcore.
It's like, but stilleveryone needs Jesus.
(48:49):
We know that.
you can know that like he isLord and through getting low and
humbling yourself and seekingafter Jesus, that's naturally
gonna become part of it.
Mm.
And if you're desiring tobe more bold and sharing his
goodness, I promise you, hewill give you opportunities
and he's gonna starttugging on your heart to
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go up and speak to people.
And in those moments,you, you get to make
that instant decision.
Am I gonna be obedient or amI gonna back away in fear?
Mm. And now's the time for youto take that step of faith into
the unknown, knowing he's gonnameet you on the other side.
Kayley (49:24):
That's so good.
And it's okay to be a fool.
Layne (49:27):
It's okay to be a fool.
Kayley (49:28):
We're never experts the first time around.
Layne (49:29):
Fools for Jesus.
Like seriously, we're, we'reall continually learning.
Yes.
It's a lifelong learningand it's for like
longevity, you know?
Kayley (49:36):
Yeah.
I mean, I had togive myself grace.
I'm like, it'sokay to be a fool.
Yeah.
That was your first timegetting up and doing that.
Layne (49:43):
Exactly.
Kayley (49:44):
Why did you think you were gonna be perfect?
Exactly.
Yep.
It's like, but the successis that you got up and you
did it and now you get to getbetter and better and better.
Yeah.
And pretty soon you'regonna be Layne Boyce open
air preaching on airplanes.
And when you are thatperson, whoever you're,
whoever's listening, when youbecome Layne Boyce open air
preaching on airplanes, giveme a holler, let me know.
Layne (50:04):
Come on
Kayley (50:05):
y'all.
Thank you so much, Layne.
Thank you so much.
Where can they findyou on social media?
Layne (50:10):
Yes.
So, um, social media platformsI'm mostly on is Instagram
and TikTok, and it's just myfirst and last name and it'll
be @layneboyce_ for Instagram.
It has like anunderscore afterwards.
And then TikTok justmy first and last name.
I love that.
Thank you so much, Layne andmy Bible Bish listeners, thank
you so much for tuning in.
Yet again, I'm so gladyou came for the tea.
(50:31):
I hope you heard the truth andeven more, I hope that you're
leaving this podcast changed.
We love you so much.
We're doing it inthe name of love.
That's right.
Amen.
Bye y'all.
the Holy Spirit was like, you're gonna stand up
(00:01):
on this airplane and you'regoing to just open air, preach.
So I did.
Yeah.
How could I not share that?
How selfish of me to justnot tell people, even if
it makes me look weirdor stupid or embarrassed like.
Who cares.
Kayley (00:20):
Well, hello everybody.
This is your Bible Bishpodcast host Kayley Bishop,
and I am so excited to bringmy girl Layne Boyce into the
studio to share with you allof the amazing things that
God is doing in her life.
And let me tell you,it's big and it's bold.
And she puts me to shame, man.
(00:41):
She is going out thereferociously talking about
Jesus, and I'm just so excitedthat you're here, Layne.
Layne (00:47):
I'm so excited to be here.
Kayley, thank you somuch for inviting me.
Kayley (00:51):
I mean, as soon as I walked in, you
were just effervescent.
I was like, she isready to just go.
Off to the races.
We're letting her out of thegate and she's gonna go run
with the Holy Spirit wind.
That's right.
That fresh wind.
Amen.
Okay.
So I just learned that youare studying commercial
voice at Belmont University.
(01:11):
Yes.
And I knew you werea Belmont student.
You're a senior, you'reabout to graduate.
Yep.
But I had no idea for somereason that you were a singer
because I'm so focused on theJesus complex in your life.
Um, but to all of y'allthat are listening.
The first time I metLayne was at my house.
Yeah.
Which was like, howdoes that happen?
Well, I met Layne through aBible study that I attend on
(01:33):
Tuesday mornings off of MusicRow, and we were meeting out of
my house this specific Tuesdaymorning and she showed up and
I just remember sitting withLayne on my couch and having the
best Spirit-filled conversationand I was just like, there
is something on this girl.
She gets it, she knows it.
Mm-hmm.
And so with that said, I justwant you to let them know
like what is your Jesus story?
(01:54):
When did faithbecome real to you?
What was the conversionbreaking moment for you?
Layne (01:59):
Yeah, so honestly, I came to Jesus two
years ago and it was mysophomore year of college.
And similar to a lot of people,I grew up in a Christian
household where we went tochurch and knew it was the right
thing to do, but I was stillliving a double life and didn't
feel any conviction about theway I was living, and was just
thinking I can live howeverI wanna live and then still
(02:21):
love God and believe in him.
Um, but it was my sophomoreyear in February, 2023 when I
had a huge turnaround momentand I fully encountered Jesus
and surrendered my life.
Repented and acceptedhim into my heart.
Kayley (02:35):
What happened in that?
Like was there arelationship that went sour?
Like what was the breakingpoint for you to be like,
I actually need God?
Layne (02:43):
Yeah.
Honestly, I came to the end ofmyself and I was realizing that
I was trying to put my identityand satisfaction in things that
were ultimately fleeting Okay.
And weren't filling me.
And there was still thatGod-sized hole in my heart where
I was like, I'm missing him.
Mm-hmm.
And so basically I cameto the end of myself.
And I realized, wow, noneof this is gonna work.
Um, I tried when, when itcame to success or money or
(03:06):
relationships, even just goodthings, um, that ultimately
Jesus can only satisfy.
Yeah.
And so I cried out tohim one night and I was
like, Jesus, I need you.
And he met me there.
And that was actually amonth before I was saved.
And that was a true momentwhere I opened my heart to him
and realized I needed a savior.
And a month later at arevival at Belmont that
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started in Asbury, Kentucky.
I don't know if youheard of the revival.
Oh my
Kayley (03:29):
God, I do remember that.
Yeah.
Me and a dear friend ofmine, he's actually my
drummer, spirit-filledman, adore him so much.
We were going on and onabout Asbury because there
was a huge revival thatwas lasting for a while.
Yes.
You were up there.
Layne (03:42):
I wasn't there, but it was so big that it was
spreading across America todifferent college campuses.
Wow.
Wow.
There was somethinghuge happening there.
Oh, God was moving like crazy.
And so basically, um, Belmontstudents hosted an atmosphere
for us to come and justbe in the presence of God.
And they shared the gospeland we were worshiping and
(04:02):
it lasted about a week.
And so I just felt led togo and I went by myself.
At this point, I didn't reallytruly know the Lord yet.
But I felt that tug.
Okay.
And so I just showed up andhe met me there during that
revival.
Kayley (04:15):
Okay.
So go back to when you, Iguess you were in your room
and you cried out for help.
Like How did Jesusshow up for you?
Because I think there'sa lot of people that.
Are, have probably been inthe same shoes as you, where
like they're living theirlife, but they're not really
fully submitted to God.
They don't really knowwhat it means to submit
their life to God.
Yeah.
Um, or what it means toreally ask him for help.
(04:36):
And so if, if you're, if you'reout there listening, I, I
really want Layne to explainthat a little bit more deeply
because there is a moment.
Yeah.
Like did you hearhim speak to you?
Layne (04:46):
There is a moment.
So it wasn't like anaudible voice at that time.
Okay.
It was like his peace justflooded me for the first time
and I just like felt his peace.
Mm. And just this knowingthat he was there.
Wow.
And he reassured me thathe was there and I began
to just read the Bible too.
And during that time hebegan to speak as well.
Kayley (05:05):
Did you think or did you, uh, react
differently to reading theBible post that encounter?
Because I'm sure youread the Bible before,
maybe not as often.
Yeah.
So what was it likereading scripture post
Jesus help me moment.
Yeah.
Layne (05:20):
It was like the words were just coming off the page
and truly coming into my heart.
And it was like, for thefirst time I was truly
coming to know the man Jesus.
Yeah.
And before it was like, youknow, growing up in summer camps
and going to church and, andhearing about Jesus and seeing
the scripture on the screens.
But I never really took thetime to pursue that on my own.
(05:40):
Mm. And that'ssomething huge that I always
promote is like buildinga relationship with Jesus.
Yeah.
And that it's not juston Sunday Services.
No.
Like he wants to talk with youevery single day and he wants
to have that relationship.
And so the difference wasthat I was seeking more.
Yeah.
I was seeking just by myself,just me and him, and not
in the church walls and notthrough my parents' faith, but
(06:02):
really making that decisionfor myself to follow him.
Kayley (06:05):
I was talking to somebody recently about the
Lord and yeah, it was, itwas at a believers event and
so I just assumed everybodythere kind of had some
sort of testimony with God.
Mm-hmm.
But there was this individualand they were like, you know, I,
I'll come to God, I just gottaclean up myself a little bit.
Like I just gotta takecare of some things before
I, you know, go to churchand like really dive in.
And I just waslike, you do know.
(06:27):
That's the point.
You have to go with your mess.
Like you don't catch afish before you clean it.
Right.
, Or you, you don't clean afish before you catch it.
I totally just butchered that.
It's fine.
It's totally fine.
I knew I knew what you were,you knew what I was saying.
But it's the samething with Jesus.
Like he, He wants you tobring your mess to him, right.
So that he can redeem it.
I mean, if, if we were, ifit was up to us to clean
(06:47):
ourselves before walking intothe church, then it would be
entirely performance based.
Exactly.
This faith performance based,and we will never measure
up, we will never performto the amount of perfection
that is required, right.
For us to have.
Have access to heaven.
Like we actually need thisgreat intercessor and mediator
who is Jesus and Amen.
I mean, he just allowsme to walk around free.
(07:10):
Yeah.
Like I don't have tothink about my crap.
I do.
I still do, but like I don'thave to think about it anymore.
He's so good.
Yeah.
Layne (07:16):
It's not that sin consciousness, it's
noticing that, wow, I'msaved by his grace through
putting my faith in him.
And through that, like naturallyour desires begin to change.
Yeah.
And I always talk abouthow like it's, it comes
with a surrendered heart.
Mm-hmm.
And lowering ourselvesand realizing like,
Lord, have my life.
Yeah.
Be Lord of my life.
It
Kayley (07:36):
really is true.
Humility.
Layne (07:37):
Humility.
Yes.
Kayley (07:39):
Okay.
So how does, how did yourfaith conversion change just
the dynamic for you in school?
Um, did that shift,like what you decided
to put an emphasis on?
Mm-hmm.
How did it changeyour family life?
Layne (07:52):
Yeah, so I would say when it came to school, um.
Being so focused on music.
That's been, that's alwaysbeen something that I've known
my entire life is singing,and I've been doing it ever
since I was a little girl.
And after I met Jesus, thenI began writing Christian
music and writing about him.
And then I began listeningto mostly Christian music.
(08:13):
And it was like he was justbeginning to just change what
I was putting out and also whatI was digesting and like the
music that I was listening to.
And it's like I realizedthat the gifts that I've
always had now get tobe used for his glory.
Yeah.
And that's the beautifulthing, is like he puts gifts
in every single person.
Mm-hmm.
And then once we meet Jesus,then he shows us how he
(08:36):
wants us to steward those.
And so I would say that'show it shifted with.
School and with family.
When I first met Jesus, theywere like, what happened to you?
Like something is different.
They were like,are you a nun now?
Like is this likeyour new phase?
Like what is happening?
Yeah, because it was drastic.
Yeah.
Like I'm tellingyou, I had a 180.
Wow.
It was like I walked in tothat revival, like completely
(08:58):
different person than whenI walked out of there.
Wow.
Yeah.
Kayley (09:03):
Wow.
Yeah.
And you know, I feel like that'smy life too, in a lot of ways.
Or maybe it was like moreof a slow progression.
But there, it, there wasdefinitely a moment where
I had to take off thecrown and put it on him.
Yes.
And be like, you know, Idon't wanna be the king of my
life or the queen of my life.
Like I really messed it up.
I should not be in charge of me.
I really shouldn't.
But with the giftings, Iunderstand what you're saying.
(09:23):
Like, you, youstart to think of.
Just music and what you doand how it can glorify God.
Yeah.
I remember everything changedfor me performance wise when I
started approaching the stage.
Not from a place ofreceiving something from
the audience, right.
But actually giving thegift that I'd been given.
Layne (09:40):
That's so good.
Kayley (09:41):
And it actually changed.
Just how nervous I get on stage.
Like I don't reallyget nervous very much.
Yeah.
Because my focus is not on me.
Layne (09:48):
Wow.
I'm so glad you'retalking about this.
'cause this is a real thingthat happened to me too.
Kayley (09:52):
Yeah.
And your focus actuallybecomes externalized.
Exactly.
You start to care moreabout the souls in the room.
Yep.
And how, what you're saying, andsinging can minister to them.
That's right.
Yeah.
And it's not about you.
And like obviously like whenyou get an applause or when
you get some feedback from theaudience, it fuels your fire.
Yep.
Puts wind in your sails.
It lets you know thatthey're awake, that they're
listening, that they'rereceiving, and it can, you
(10:13):
know, fill you, fill you up.
But like at the same time, mygreatest accomplishments on
stage are after I get off and Ihave people come up to me with
tears in their eyes and sayinglike, wow, I really needed that.
Mm. That's when it's like,okay, we're, we're tracking.
Yeah, we're cooking with grease.
Layne (10:28):
Yep, that's right.
And like even recently atBelmont, like we have these
seminars where we sing for ourclassmates and my instructor
and classmates would say, justevery time you get up there, I
just see this light around you.
And I just feel like this,like joy and like, like
are just brought to tears.
And I know that it's Jesusthrough me because every
time that I speak, I singit's not about me anymore.
(10:51):
Yeah.
And it's literally,God use me as a vessel.
And as I speak, as I sing, haveyour way and I want people to
encounter your presence and Iwant people to feel your love.
And that has completelychanged things, like
you said, with nerves.
My nerves have likelowered so much.
It's actually crazy'cause I'm like, wow.
It's just such an honor and ablessing and privilege to just
(11:11):
do everything for his glory.
And there is scripture that hespoke to me months back that
have literally changed me.
And it's Matthew five 14through 16 that says, you
are the light of the world.
Yes.
A town built on a hill cannot behidden neither mm. Do you light
a lamp and put it under a bowl.
Yes.
Instead, you put it on itsstand and it gives light
(11:32):
to everyone in the house.
Yes.
So that everyone can seeyour good deeds and glorify
your father in heaven.
And so it's realizing, wow, likethe light he's put within me.
It's for others.
Yeah.
It's so great.
It's just such a beautifulthing just to allow him
to have his way through us.
Kayley (11:47):
I, you know, it's funny that that verse really hit you
because that hit me last year.
I was actually, wow.
When I sang at the Ryman.
Yeah.
I sang, you're My Sunshine.
And I quoted that scripturebecause to me, like the most
powerful thing you can dowith your gift is to put
it on a stand and allow theentire room to be illuminated.
Yes.
And that's what our gifts do.
And that's like when wesubmit 'em to the Lord.
It's like you don't wannahide good things, you
(12:08):
wanna put 'em on display.
And the idea of it illuminating,like allowing people to
see through the dark.
Yeah.
There's something reallyprofound about that.
There really is.
Layne, I am, I'm justimpressed by you.
I mean, I look, I rememberback when I was a senior
in college and goodness, Ididn't even know who I was.
I was sort of leadingbible studies, but at the
same time, like didn'treally have this huge,
(12:31):
crazy life changingmoment with God.
Yeah.
I think I was still my owngod and yeah, I didn't really
have a lot of mentorshipand so yeah, I just, I love
that you're sitting here andthat you are like a Timothy,
you're like a young Daniel.
Mm-hmm.
You're going outboldly and bold Boyce.
Bold Boyce, Layne bold Boyce.
Layne (12:49):
I receive that
Kayley (12:51):
and so , really the reason I wanted
you on this podcast.
Is to talk about this crazyinitiative that you've
started, and I just want youto tell everybody about it.
I know you've called itJesus 365, but mm-hmm.
Tell everyone what it is, andI just wanna hear you pop off
about it because I'm just.
So impressed.
Layne (13:08):
Yes.
I'm so excited toshare about it.
So the Jesus 3 6 5movement was actually
started by Trinity Queen.
Shout out to her.
She's such a sweet sisterin Christ, and she started
this movement last year.
And then for this yearof 2025, she's invited
believers to join in.
Okay.
And so basically we sharedJesus with someone every
(13:28):
single day of the year.
And so through that I waslike, I'm up for this challenge
because I had already beenfeeling God stirring me.
Wow.
To be more bold in my faith.
Wow.
And sharing his goodness.
Because last summer I hadthis moment where I was
like, man, I literally havethe truth that sets other
people free within me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How could I not share that?
How selfish of me to justnot tell people, even if
(13:50):
it makes me look weird orstupid or embarrassed, like.
Who cares.
Like people need to know Jesus.
They're all looking for him.
And so I was like,you, you know what?
It's on.
I'm gonna do it.
So every day I've been postingtestimonials and conversations,
um, of interactions, justsharing Jesus with someone
every day and man, Godhas just moved so much.
(14:11):
Okay.
It's been amazing.
Kayley (14:12):
What day are you on now?
Layne (14:14):
Day 100.
This is day 100.
Oh my.
Today's day 100.
Did you alreadyshare Jesus today?
I did.
So today was so fun.
I actually had like 15 minutesin between classes and I said,
okay, Lord, like I have enoughtime to talk with someone.
Just lead me where to go.
I see these frat guys walkingon campus with a megaphone,
and I was like, okay, I'mgonna go chase after them.
(14:34):
So I go up to them, I'mlike, Hey, can I pay you
$5 to use your megaphone?
And I literally shouted thegospel from the rooftops.
I was like, what a.
What a crazy, fun day.
100 that, what did theysay God had in store?
They were totally cool with it.
They were cheering iton, so it was great.
Kayley (14:50):
I am just like, I, you know, I, I share
the Lord a lot with randompeople that I meet in.
Yeah.
In life, just because I want to.
And at some point when you'rewalking in the fruit of the
spirit, like yes, they willknow you by their fruit.
That's right.
You will know them by theirfruit and so it's like, you know
that the patience, kindness,gentleness, self-control.
(15:11):
Faithfulness, like all ofthose things that are a
byproduct of knowing God, youexemplify them as you go about.
Yeah.
And so when they're sayinglike, there's just this glow
about you Layne, I mean it's,it's totally the fruit of
the Holy Spirit, like youare that self-controled,
patient, kind woman of God.
And when people encounterkindness, they're like,
(15:31):
wait, there's somethingdifferent about you.
Yeah.
And then you're like, well,I'll tell you what it is.
I've got the keysto the kingdom.
That's right.
You want, you wanna take a ride?
Like I'll, I'lltell you how it is.
And I've actually started,like with this podcast, I
really wanted to make merch.
That was, I. Like covertChristian and overt Christian,
and the covert stuff would belike conversation starters.
Yeah.
(15:52):
And it's working because Iput on a hat 9 3 7, which
stands for Matthew 9 37for the harvest is plenty,
but the laborers are few.
Mm-hmm.
And I put that on ahat, just 9, 3, 7.
And this gentleman I waseating at, at a diner in West
Nashville called Wendell's.
It's my favorite little spot.
And this old man waslike, excuse me, I wanna
know about your hat.
And I just slid right upto him and I was like.
(16:13):
Oh, do you, let me tell you.
And we had this beautifulconversation and he's since
like subscribed and he'slike, man, you're like,
you're one of the real ones.
Wow.
Because you know, in a seaof people that proclaim
Jesus, very few are actuallywalking with him and know him.
Yeah.
And being bold and Yeah.
Like with the understanding thatthe best gift you can give is
(16:34):
that breakthrough for someone.
Yes.
And so, okay, I've said enough.
Keep going.
I wanna hear.
Like the worst experienceyou've had in this situation
so far in this this time?
Oh my gosh.
Layne (16:45):
Yeah.
So honestly, the first thingthat comes to mind is a
one-on-one encounter I hadwith someone and I just went
up to him and it was in myapartment complex, like in
the front office, and I wasjust asking him questions and
I asked him if I, if I couldshare the gospel with him.
And prior to asking, he wasmentioning that, he's like,
yeah, like I do go to church.
And basically thathe was a believer.
(17:06):
And as soon as I mentioned thegospel, he got really angry and
like didn't wanna hear about it.
And I was like, what?
Like how does that makesense if he's a believer?
And so that was definitely anexperience that threw me off.
And I was what like, and that'seven happened before with
like, um, Boldy proclaimingthe gospel, like open
air preaching and things.
Sometimes even believerswill get uncomfortable and
be like, oh, I don't reallylike the way that you did it.
(17:28):
Right.
But ultimately.
Like scripture says, aslong as it's being told.
You know, like, wow, that'ssomething to celebrate.
And that's what we'reall called to do, um, is
to share the good news.
So I would say that's likethe first, um, incident
that comes to mind.
Kayley (17:42):
Okay.
Yeah.
What is your favorite so far?
Layne (17:44):
My favorite?
I would say, honestly, thiskind of ties into that.
It's kind of like.
It was a hard one, but itwas also like one of my
favorites is I was on anairplane and these are like
all the crazy bold stories.
Most,
Kayley (17:58):
is this the one you posted?
Layne (17:59):
Yes.
Kayley (18:00):
This one freaked me out in the best way.
I was like, oh my goodness.
You're like, what?
Layne (18:04):
And most of the, most of like, um, my like conversations
with people are one-on-one,but like, this is just like one
of those really bold momentswhere the Holy Spirit was
like, you're gonna stand upon this airplane and you're
going to just open air, preach.
So I did.
And there was these ladiesthat were getting super
angry and like yelling at me.
I've never hadthat happen before.
Like I've never beenlike yelled at to stop.
(18:26):
And in that momentI was like, oh.
And then I realized, I waslike, wait, this is just
like, they're just mad 'causeI'm talking about Jesus.
Like I gotta keep goingbecause it's Jesus.
There's clearly someonewho needs to hear
this on this airplane.
Woo.
So I kept going and it wasone of my favorites because
afterwards, like I had alady come up to me and we
prayed together, I feltled to go up to another
couple in the back of theairplane and prayed for them.
(18:47):
Like God moved on that plane.
Wow.
Um, even with the persecution.
So that was a really,really cool incident.
Kayley (18:58):
Like you don't just out of nowhere decide to
stand up on an airplane whilepeople are getting seated,
putting their luggage up inthe bins and all of a sudden
just start proclaiming.
I mean, have you, have youever been to New York City?
I have.
Have you been on the subways?
Layne (19:13):
Uh, I think so.
It was like my freshmanyear of high school.
Okay.
So, so I had to have, yeah.
Kayley (19:17):
I mean, it's really common in most subways where
you'll get these people thatkind of walk through the
subway trains and they startspitting their preaching
or whatever it is Yeah.
That they're saying.
Or like they're, they'retrying to like peddle
for money or whatever.
And it just reminded me ofthat because oftentimes, I
mean, it's just so normal.
Nobody really paysattention too much.
Yeah.
Of the subway crazy people.
(19:39):
But for you to get upon the plane, I just.
I was like, Lord, this isreally outstanding, and
something I feel like Idon't see in young people.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I really feel likeyou're in a league of your own.
Hmm.
And I mean, how doesthat feel though for you?
Do you feel isolated?
Do you feel likeyou're on an island?
Especially compared to peoplethat are your age but are like
(20:02):
way more immature in theirfaith, where are you sitting
right now in your community?
Layne (20:05):
Yeah, I would say God is actually so good.
He's so faithful because heliterally at the perfect timing
opened a door for me to be partof a ministry called Pulse 100,
and it's literally a hundredevangelists from across America
from the ages of like 18 to 25.
So I, I'm like literallyin this community of
99 other evangelists.
(20:26):
And so we cheer each otheron and they're also super
bold in their faith and lovesharing Jesus with people.
So like, if anything, it'sjust set more of a fire in
my heart to know, wow, I'mreally not alone doing this.
And even when I come backto Nashville and I'm just
going about my day by myself,evangelizing, knowing that I
have my brothers and sistersin Christ who are also doing
the same thing wherever they'replanted and their harvest is.
(20:50):
So it's actually been sobeautiful, um, and I've been
a part of this community forthe past like eight months, and
we've been just growing togetherand having masterclasses
and retreats and girl Yeah.
Cheering each other on.
Kayley (21:01):
So how has your life changed?
Since, since all ofthis started, since
Jesus, 365, day one.
Layne (21:09):
I mean, I think back to like last summer when God called
me to start posting on socialmedia and I said, God, I don't
even really like social media.
Like I don't want it.
And he was like, no,like you're gonna start
posting videos about me.
So I was actually sharing just.
Scriptural videos and just Sure.
Topics that God wasputting on my heart.
And that's how things started.
Yeah.
And then once I got involvedwith Pulse in the fall, and then
(21:31):
once this Jesus 3, 6, 5 movementhappened, it's like things just
started to get the ball rolling.
And then these videos andcontent just became about
that Jesus 3, 6, 5 movement.
Yeah.
And sothrough there, I've had more
opportunities to not only likesing, but to speak and to write.
And so it's been really coolto see how God is showing me.
I know you mentionedthis earlier that like.
(21:53):
It's not just your voice.
Mm-hmm.
That you know, likeyou're his daughter.
And similar for me, he'sbeen teaching me like beyond
being his daughter firstand foremost, that like, not
only am I a singer, but I'm acommunicator, you really are
speaking, writing, and singing.
And so he's really just showedme that he wants to use me
in all three of those areas.
Kayley (22:10):
So when did you first open air preach?
Layne (22:13):
Hmm.
Actually New Year's Eveon an airplane on it.
Kayley (22:16):
So you've done an airplane thing
multiple times now?
Yeah.
Stop.
Layne (22:20):
Yeah.
Something will just take overand the Holy Spirit's like,
yeah, there's, you're goingto preach to this whole plane.
Kayley (22:27):
I am shooketh . Yeah.
Okay.
Well, how did that go?
Layne (22:31):
It went really good and it was like I wasn't,
it was just super quickand it wasn't like I was
shouting it from the rooftops.
It was just like, Hey,everybody, like to, everyone
who was around me and justshared the gospel and people
were clapping and actuallyafter, I love that, that
encounter, um, and doing that.
I think it was that airplanewhere this woman turned
around and said, or maybethis is a different airplane.
(22:52):
I, I'm getting 'em all,they're, they're all kind
of like blended together.
But, um, this woman turnedaround and she was like, I
literally am like on my wayback from, I think she was like
at a psych ward or something.
Oh.
And she was like, I literallywas in su, a super depressive
state and I met God thereand he gave me hope.
And I said, and I said,can I pray for you?
Like Jesus loves you?
And so literally like.
(23:14):
If I wasn't obedient likethat divine appointment
wouldn't have happened.
Ugh.
So good.
Like she literally was just inthe pit and like going through
so much darkness and strugglethat showed her God and his
faithfulness and literallylike got to pray for her and
she just got to encounterJesus again on that airplane.
Oh, you know, so good.
We never know how ourobedience don't is going
(23:34):
to produce, produce fruit.
We don't.
It's fruit that's unseen.
Some of it's directfruit and we see it, but
a lot of it's not seen.
Kayley (23:40):
Yeah, you don't know.
Layne (23:41):
It's like we don't know.
Kayley (23:42):
That's one question I'm gonna have for the
Lord, be like, okay.
Yeah.
All the times that Iobeyed and I didn't see
the result of obedience,like can you just show me?
Yeah.
I just wanna see.
Yeah.
And out of my own curiosity,not that I need the
validation, but you know,he's working so much together.
Yeah.
At the same time he is.
And especially the, thelong-term obedience moments
(24:02):
where you did somethingyears ago and then.
It slaps you in the face10 years later and you're
like, wow, I had no idea.
Yeah.
And sometimes that happensto me, like people that have
been following me for years,they'll be like, you know, I
never told you this, but yearsago you said this and it.
Changed me here.
And I'm like, wow.
It's so comforting.
I actually had a momentof obedience recently that
(24:23):
inspired more obedience.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm gonna talk aboutmy roommate who's actually
in the studio right now.
I just love her so much.
But I decided to get baptizedagain, um, because I heard
a message about baptism andit was just put so plainly
to me that baptism is theoutward declaration of
the inward, of the inward.
Conversion or change.
Yeah.
And it's similar to, youknow, like people wearing,
(24:44):
um, a wedding band.
It, it symbolizes, oh, Ihave made a covenant with
another, we are married andthis is my declaration of
this, like my outward symbol.
Mm-hmm.
And I was thinking tomyself like, I got baptized
before there was reallya heart conversion.
I, I think I need to doit in the right order now.
Mm-hmm.
And.
Part of me was like, I mean,is it really necessary?
(25:06):
Like, I'm really walking withyou, God, like I know I've
been baptized, but like, whatdo you wanna do with this?
But I just knew he wanted to,and I seized the opportunity.
Ended up going to OklahomaCity, brought my friend and
my roommate with me and I wasleading worship in the church.
And then at the fourth serviceI was gonna get baptized.
And right before the fir fourthservice started, they made an
(25:26):
announcement that there wasgonna be a second baptism.
And I look over and Iwas like my roommate.
Oh my goodness.
She's getting baptized too.
And it was like the bestgift I could have been given.
And I just remember telling thegirls, even beforehand, I said,
I really want a fresh word whenI come up outta that water.
And they were like,well, what was the word?
And I said that my obedienceled to somebody else obeying.
(25:49):
Wow.
And I'm like, that is so good.
Like.
Lord, you're so kind.
Because I didn't reallyknow what we were doing.
I didn't have like flashinggreen lights like move ahead.
I just had like a whisper.
Yeah, just a nudge.
Yep.
And I thought to myself,what is this gonna hurt?
Yep.
Now I get to proclaim Jesus.
Now I get to explain likethe fruit of knowing him
(26:09):
and really what baptism is.
Yeah.
A declaration of what hasbeen converted inside.
Amen.
I'm like that people needto know that people are
getting baptized left andright and they're, they're
just getting sprinkled withwater like they're Yeah.
And don't even understand.
They're just getting wet.
Like the Yeah.
Like, yep.
But there's so much more likethe spiritual implication.
Layne (26:27):
Water and spirit.
Kayley (26:28):
Water and spirit.
Yeah.
And so I love that youbrought up that obedience,
that obedience momentbecause it's so good.
It is.
Okay.
So how do you feel justobeying in walking in Jesus.
3, 6, 5. Yeah.
How do you feel likeobedience has changed your
relationship with God?
Layne (26:48):
Hmm.
Well, I've been learningthat God loves obedience.
Yeah.
He blesses obedience.
Yeah.
And the more that we'refaithful with the little,
then he gives more.
And so we have to learnhow to steward those little
moments where he is like,Hey, will you do this for me?
You're like, Hey, I wantyou to talk to that person.
Hey, I want you to post this.
I want you to reachout to this person.
The little nudges, it's likethe more that we're in tune
(27:09):
with those, not only is itliterally being obedient to
him, but it's actually gonnado something fruitful in our
lives too and for others.
And so obedience is justlike this beautiful cycle
of walking with the Lord.
And it's like, I wannabe part of the miracles.
Yeah, totally.
I wanna be part ofwhat he's doing.
Me too.
And so just tuning in and beinglike, Lord, like I'm open.
Yes.
(27:30):
Anywhere that I go, I inviteyou with me and I wanna
be aware of your voice.
Yes.
And in tune with the HolySpirit because it's so easy
to just coast through our day.
And this is why likeJesus, 3, 6, 5 has really
helped just create a habitof being intentional.
Thinking about, Hey, isthere anyone like in this
place that I'm in that Ican just tell them about?
(27:50):
Jesus?
Kayley (27:51):
It's so good.
It's always on the forefront.
Layne (27:52):
It's always on the forefront.
It's just gotten in thathabit every day of, okay,
like, like I literally amgoing to share Jesus with at
least one person, and there'ssome days where it just feels
impossible and I don't want to.
But that obedience part andthat challenge of doing it
every day has helped to stepoutta that comfort zone.
Kayley (28:08):
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay, so.
I wanna go back a little bit.
You, you talk about like,I wanna tune in with God.
Yeah.
So that I can hear Holy Spirit.
Yeah.
What does that look like?
How would you explain, hearhow you hear Holy Spirit.
To someone who doesn'tknow if they do.
Layne (28:23):
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So God speaks in somany different ways.
And I love when youmentioned the gentle whisper.
Yeah.
Because a lot of thetimes that's what it is.
It's like that little tug,you feel it in your heart.
Um, he'll speak throughgiving you thoughts that,
you know, it's like, wait, Ididn't really think of that.
It just kind ofpops in your mind.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, I thinkGod's speaking to me.
Yeah.
(28:43):
Um, through visions, dreams.
Through other people.
Mm-hmm.
Sometimes God will speakthrough someone and I'll
feel it in my heart and I'mlike, wow, I really feel
like God was speaking that.
Yeah.
Through them to me.
Yeah.
So God speaks in somany different ways.
Even like the other nightI was, I had this song on
my heart earlier that day.
And later that night Iclosed up my journal.
(29:04):
As soon as I did that song,started playing on, on shuffle
and I realized that God wantedme to receive and listen to
the lyrics, and I just weptbecause I knew that he was
speaking to me through a song.
Oh, so good.
So he'll speak in so manydifferent ways and like
on a day-to-day basis oflike, okay, Holy Spirit,
like lead me to like who totalk to and just like how
to move and what to say.
(29:24):
It's honestly just beingopen and surrendered as a
vessel, if that makes sense.
Yeah.
Of like give me the words tosay, give me the questions to
ask, highlight a person to me,and just like that constant
back and forth, because he'salways speaking, but sometimes
we're not positioned tolisten and to hear his voice.
Kayley (29:42):
Ain't that the truth?
Layne (29:43):
And that that can come with distractions
and just busyness.
Um, and even just beingreally tuned into our
own voice when Godspeaks himself.
Kayley (29:52):
I mean, that, I feel like that's been
a big pitfall for me.
And I remember last year I sawa post and it just shook me.
It said Jesusdidn't run anywhere.
He walked.
Yeah.
And also, 50% of hismiracles took place at the
hand of an interruption.
Hmm.
And I was like.
Okay, I'm running everywhereand I need to slow down.
Yep.
And if I'm running everywhere,then that means I'm less
(30:13):
inclined to be interruptedbecause I'm so consumed
with my order of business.
Yeah.
My to-do list.
And I'm like, I've gotta allowmyself to be more interruptible.
And I think because I sloweddown, especially this first
quarter of the, of 2025.
It was almost like God startedreally working in me to do this
podcast and bringing all thepieces together and, and he's
(30:36):
just like, you know, you, youlove being productive, Kayley.
And I'm like, I really do.
Thanks forunderstanding that Lord.
He goes, but the crazy thingabout productivity is that.
Jesus was so productive,and all he did was walk.
He's like, just trust me.
Don't stop.
Like getting out from beside me.
Just walk with me in stride.
Yeah.
Where we're going.
(30:57):
And you're gonna bemore productive than
you could ever imagine.
Mm, that's good.
And I'm just like, why did Ithink that I had to run this
way and this way and this way?
Exactly.
It literally is like, okay,God, you can have the keys
to the car, but I'm gonnayell directions at you.
From the, from likethe shotgun seat.
Yeah.
It's like, andthere are days that.
I still do that.
Just like there's days whenyou're like, I don't wanna
witness to anybody today.
Layne (31:18):
Like, and then my flesh is like, Ugh,
I don't feel like it, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it just feels likea lot right now to like,
take time outta my dayto talk with someone.
I'm like that.
Okay.
That's not of the Lord.
Like my spirit is definitelywilling, my flesh on the
other hand is like, Igotta other things to do.
I'm carried away in my own to-dolist, like you said, like, yeah.
It.
Yeah, it's hard.
Kayley (31:36):
Well, and you're also a woman too.
It's like hormonally, likewe're operating on a different
rhythm and there are certaintimes where it's like, I
don't wanna talk to anybody.
I look like a frog.
I feel like a frog.
I am mean hateful and ornery.
And I have no businesstalking about Jesus
to anybody right now.
Layne (31:53):
Or even times where like there'll be like a
few days or a week whereI feel distant from God.
Oh yeah.
And I'm like, where is he?
Like, did he leave me?
Like, oh, like I don'tfeel his presence.
And we know that he'salways still there.
Right.
Even when we don't physicallyknow and like feel his presence,
we know he's still there andhe is still good and faithful.
But there are definitelytimes where I'm like, I'm
(32:15):
not on my A game right now.
Yeah.
Like I feel like I'mnot even tight with God.
How am I supposed to talkwith someone else about him.
Yeah.
And share his love.
Because something I have learnedwith evangelism too is like from
a place of receiving his loveand from that place of rest.
Yeah.
That it's like an overflow.
Yes.
And the overflow is thebest way to share Jesus.
Because you're alreadylike, man, I'm just
(32:35):
receiving his love.
Yes.
I'm not striving.
It's just flowing.
And people feel that.
They feel his love through that.
Kayley (32:42):
Oh, that's so good.
Yeah.
I was actually talkingabout this with a friend.
The idea of.
Being in rest.
Yep.
And encountering his gloryin rest because we're so used
to being a human doing, we'renot a human being anymore.
And if we really
Layne (32:55):
Mary Martha, that's what I think about.
Kayley (32:56):
Yes.
Martha.
Very, very Martha.
And I'm like, okay, God,like you, you keep nudging
me into this place of thebest, most important thing
in my day is discipleship.
And that's literallyme being with you.
Wow.
That's beautiful.
That's just me being.
With you, God.
Yeah.
And he's like, justlet me grow you up.
Let me like pour in so thatyou do have an overflow.
(33:18):
Yeah.
So it's like he doesn't expectus to carry on a ministry
without being first filled.
Layne (33:24):
Filled.
Yep.
There's so many times hehas to slow me down and he's
like, daughter, you need tojust sit and be still, like,
I know you have all thesethings that you're feeling
like you wanna keep doing forme, but like once again, like.
You, my love for you doesn'tchange based off of what
you're doing for me or feelinglike you have to earn it.
Mm-hmm.
Or even the things that we'reco-laboring and doing together.
(33:47):
Yeah.
So that's the whole point.
Getting to do it with theLord and not like it's
so fun like the Lord.
It's alone.
Kayley (33:51):
It's so fun.
It's so fruitful.
He takes you on an adventure.
He does.
I'm like, when you follow thepromptings of the Lord, you
find yourself in positions.
You're like, I couldn'thave even made this up.
Exactly.
And then you're havingconversations and all
of a sudden you have newfriends that live in Hawaii.
You're like, I'm gonnaHawaii next month.
Like, like what?
What?
I mean that's whatfollowing the God Lord
is like, that's the Lord.
It is a theme park.
(34:12):
Yeah.
People think thatfollowing God is the lamest
squarest, "you can't doanything", nun- type life.
Layne (34:18):
It's the most freeing thing.
Kayley (34:19):
It is the most fun I've ever had in my life
adventure.
Yeah.
Hands down.
Hands down.
Layne (34:24):
Like I've tried a lot of different things.
Yes.
Like I've been there, likeI've tried going to different
atmospheres that seem likea good time and like chasing
that high, chasing that goodtime, that good feeling.
But I'm telling y'allthe Holy Spirit.
Woo.
He's a good time.
He's a good time.
Kayley (34:39):
And he also, he always makes me feel good about myself.
Layne (34:42):
Peace, joy, like,
Kayley (34:44):
like think about for those of y'all listening,
think about the personthat makes you feel like a
million bucks in your life.
Yeah.
Think about the person thatis always there to cheer
you on that that calls outthe good things in you.
And then multiply that by like.
10, 20,000, 50 millionand you're gonna get how
God can make you feel.
Yeah, totally.
Okay.
So actually on that trackof feelings, Uhhuh, you
(35:06):
talk about when there aretimes you don't feel him.
Yeah.
But you just claimthat he's there.
I really believe that that isa mark of maturity in faith.
Mm. Because he wants to discipleyou into connecting with him
outside of a sensory experience.
Yep.
I mean, it's easy to havethe chills, and yet let
that be like a marker ofHoly Spirit's in the room.
Mm-hmm.
But also he wants us to grow inbeing able to decree and declare
(35:31):
that he is with us always.
And so that's How do younavigate ministering to people
when you don't feel anything?
Layne (35:38):
That's a really good question.
It's like I know that beyondmy, where I feel like I
am with God that day, andif I feel like he's far,
I still know the truth.
And so I remindmyself of the cross.
I remind myself of whathe's pulled me out of.
And that refreshes me even inthose days where I'm like, but
(36:00):
God, like I feel like you'refar right now, or I don't
feel your tangible presence.
It's like I can't denywhat he's already done.
Yeah.
So on those days ittakes me looking back.
Okay.
And reflecting.
Kayley (36:11):
That's good.
Layne (36:12):
And being like, you know, I remember two years ago when
he met me, I like, I've seenhis faithfulness these past two
years and just seeing like whathe's done and it's undeniable.
That he's the way, thetruth and the life.
And so regardless ofmy feelings, this is
literally taking me dyingto myself every day.
Yeah.
And saying, okay, God, likeregardless of my feelings, I'm
gonna step out and I'm open.
(36:33):
You have my Yes.
Yeah.
And there are peoplethat need to know you.
Regardless of what I feel,
Kayley (36:38):
I honestly like, I really think I do the same.
Yeah.
And one thing that has cometo be my greatest tool is kind
of obvious and explanatory.
It's the Bible.
Yeah.
I mean like, it's the momentswhen I don't feel God that these
verses that I've read severaltimes or meditated on or like
studied, they all come to mind.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, no, no, no, wait.
(36:59):
I have everything to combatmy lack of feelings or my
frustration or my confusion.
Yeah.
Literally in the word.
Yeah.
And this is to me, wherestudying the word regularly
is such a foundational toolfor us to say stay sane.
Mm-hmm.
I think the devil wants tocome in and, and because
we don't have feelings orbecause something's missing
(37:20):
or something has shifted,something doesn't feel good.
He wants us to forgetwhat God has done.
Yeah.
Because if he, if we'll forget,then we'll abort, we'll leave.
Mm-hmm.
We'll try to find somethingelse temporal that will satisfy.
Right.
And nothing else isgonna satisfy like him.
And all we're gonna do is findourselves living in regret.
Yep.
So, But I, I wanna also askyou How would you encourage
(37:45):
someone that maybe has alwayswanted to share Jesus with
somebody and literally justdoesn't know what to do?
Layne (37:49):
Yeah.
I would say like somethingthat really helped me was
just starting with gettingin the habit of stepping
out of my comfort zoneto talk with strangers.
And so even if that meant justsimply saying, God bless you
to someone, or Jesus loves you.
I'm telling you at firstit feels so nerve wracking
because it's like, oh,what are they gonna think?
Like,
Kayley (38:09):
were you shaking?
I wonder if they Oh, for sure.
Layne (38:10):
I was shaking in my boots.
I was like, oh goodness,what are they gonna think?
But over time, like Ijust got in that habit and
then I started to share mytestimony more with people.
So when I'd be havingconversations and asking
them questions and Iwould get to share like my
story and what Jesus did.
And then eventually, um,more up to this point is
(38:31):
when I've just begun to like.
Share the gospel.
So it's like thoselike little steps.
Mm-hmm.
And we just take one stepand as we step out and even
do it afraid and like stepout in faith, like he's so
faithful to meet us and, andhelp us and walk with us as
we grow in that boldness.
And like I said, like Ido it scared sometimes.
Like there are momentswhere my flesh is like this
(38:52):
same.
This is crazy.
Or like, I don't want tough, but the Holy Spirit,
like he, he's willing and,and, and he'll give boldness
in those moments and hewill give the words to say.
so yeah, definitelytaking those steps.
Kayley (39:05):
That's so good.
Yeah.
I remember there was a timeI was in Miami, I was doing
this big photo shoot orvideo shoot for this thing.
Mm-hmm.
And I was just beginningto understand that God
was communicating tome through visions.
Mm. And I was reallyhaving a great time
exploring that with him.
And he was just blowingmy mind all the time.
Yeah.
And I had encountered, youknow, first Corinthians, or
(39:27):
is it second Corinthians?
It's talk about the gifts.
It's like right before loveis patient, love is kind.
Mm. And it talks aboutlike, you know, your gifts.
If, if you do not love, theyare like a clanging gong.
They're worthless.
Yeah, they're meaningless.
And, and that's when I realizedour gifts are for the kingdom.
And so even though I haddeveloped this beautiful way
of communicating with God,I knew that at some point it
(39:47):
was gonna be used for others.
And I remember down in Miamiat this event, the girl
that was doing my makeup, Ilooked at her and I just had
this vision of her, um, notnecessarily of her actually.
It was a specific vision.
And, and I remember itwas just like a brick.
With, um, some flowersgrowing up out of the center,
and I had no idea what itmeant, but I'd just come off
(40:07):
reading that in Corinthiansand I was like, shaking.
I was like, oh my gosh, Lord.
Like I feel likenow, now is the time.
You want me toactually to share it.
Share it.
And I was terrified.
I mean, you, I don'tknow her background.
I literally had just met her.
I was like, what isshe gonna say to me?
Does she even know Jesus?
I don't know what.
And I just looked ather and I said, Hey.
Um.
(40:28):
I just had a vision of you.
I explained the visionand then I said, I really
think it means that you'reblooming where you're planted.
And I had no ideawhat the vision meant.
I didn't know theinterpretation, but it's almost
like as soon as I decided tostep out and start speaking
what I saw to her in obedience.
Mm-hmm.
God, word for word, oneword at a time, gave me the
(40:49):
interpretation of the vision
Layne (40:50):
download.
Yeah,
Kayley (40:51):
he downloads like he's waiting for.
It's the Moses sticking hisstaff into the Red Sea before
it parted that it was notgonna part before he did that.
Yeah, you have your faithis putting Yes decreeing and
doing what you think, whatGod said he was gonna do.
And so opening my mouth,beginning to tell her the
vision, and as soon as I explainit to her, she starts weep.
(41:12):
And I'm just like, wow, Lord.
Like you were so on point.
But I was still so afraidto say it was from him.
Yeah.
I was terrified.
And so I come backhome from this thing.
I look at the call log, thecall sheet for all the people
that were on staff, find hernumber, and I text her and
I said, Hey, it's Kayley.
I just, you know, I wasthe one that talked to you.
I just wanna let you know,like I was afraid to say it,
(41:33):
but that was from the Lord.
That was from God.
And she, she was like,you have no idea how much
I needed to hear that.
Wow.
And it's like we're so afraidof what people are gonna
think that we don't obey.
Meanwhile, walking inobedience is setting
people free, literally.
It's like, why are wewithholding a good thing?
Layne (41:54):
That's such a beautiful testimony.
Kayley (41:55):
And so now I look at it as like, okay, is
what I'm about to share withsomeone comforting, edifying.
Yep.
Layne (42:02):
Encouraging
Kayley (42:03):
or encouraging.
Yep.
And, and if the answeris yes to all of that,
it's God's character.
Yes.
Is it God's character?
Because if so, I'mgonna share it.
Yeah.
And if I got it wrong by him,if I heard the wrong thing and
if's it's still all of thosethings, then I'm gonna say it.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna withhold.
Layne (42:19):
And that's what keeps a lot of us, like even me at
times too, from even beingobedient is, well what if it's,
what if I didn't get it right?
Like, or even with healinglike, well God, like I feel
like you're leading me to prayfor this person to get healed.
And what if theydon't get healed?
Or like, oh, I feellike you're giving me
a word for this person.
Like, what if it'snot from you though?
And it's like that unbeliefand that doubt that'll try
to slip in, but God is justliterally waiting for us
(42:42):
to have that faith to stepout and be obedient because
we don't know like howthat's gonna impact someone.
So your story is literally abeautiful like representation
of that obedience and how Godspoke directly to that girl
that you literally just met.
Kayley (42:56):
Oh, I had no idea.
Layne (42:57):
Like how else would you know?
It's the Lord.
Kayley (42:58):
I wouldn't know.
And that's why it's so muchfun walking with Holy Spirit.
It's so fun.
That, and that was yearsago and like, that was the
start of me really findingboldness of, yeah, sharing
things that were scary.
But like to your healingpoint of like, what if this
person doesn't get healed?
Like I know of a pastor whonow has a, a deliverance
healing ministry and hebelieved that he was being
(43:18):
given the gift of healing.
Yeah.
The first thousand people heprayed for did not get healed.
Wow.
And even still on thethousandth person.
He said, just 'cause it's nothappening through my hands
doesn't mean God doesn't heal.
Layne (43:31):
That kind of faith, man.
Kayley (43:31):
That kind of faith,
Layne (43:32):
that kind of faith.
Kayley (43:33):
And it was like the damn broke.
And then all of a sudden, likethe power of healing is coming
through him, laying hands.
And it's just sometimes wehave to stir and contend,
and in the beginning whenwe're doing things, sometimes
we're doing things too muchfor ourself and not for God.
Layne (43:48):
Yes, yes.
Kayley (43:48):
He's like, you are still trying to do
this to get the glory.
Layne (43:51):
Right.
Kayley (43:51):
But I actually want the glory
Layne (43:53):
and it's like we seek Jesus and it's like all those
other things come with it.
Yeah.
Right.
Because like the scripture youwere talking about says is like,
we have to do it all in love.
Yes.
And it's not in love.
It's a clanging symbol.
So it's like seeking Jesusand through that naturally,
like all the other giftsand ways that he speaks and
wants to move in love happen.
(44:14):
Yeah.
It's just part of walkingin his goodness in love.
Kayley (44:18):
It's so good.
Girl, you're so good.
I don't even knowwhat to do with you.
I'm just like.
The maturity in your faith?
Like what are what?
What do you want now?
Like say, Jesus 365 ends.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like what are you envisioningfor your life now?
What do you think Godis downloading for you
to prepare you for?
Layne (44:37):
Hmm.
Wow.
Honestly, this, my, my entirelife is just in his hands.
Like I, the word he gave me forthis year is Glory to glory.
Mm. And basically for thefirst time in my life, I'm
fully surrendering my plansand trusting his plans for me.
Mm. Andfor instance, like I would've
loved to stay here in Nashvilleand Music City, keep doing
music and staying in ministryhere, but he actually called
(44:58):
me to missions this summer.
And so
Kayley (45:01):
where are you gonna go?
Layne (45:02):
I'll be, um, in Pacific Northwest of America
and Canada on the road.
Yeah.
Kayley (45:07):
Okay.
Now is this a ministrygroup that you'll be with?
Layne (45:10):
Yep.
So Every Heart, it'slike a branch of YWAM.
So I'll be with a team, um, for10 weeks and after that I have
no idea where I'm gonna be.
God's gonna show me.
I know that, but that'sjust the crazy thing about
faith is like, our livesare not our own anymore.
Kayley (45:25):
No.
They're not.
Layne (45:26):
Like, I just want what he has for me.
I Yeah.
It's an adventure talking.
Kayley (45:28):
It's better.
Layne (45:29):
You're talking about It's so much better.
Kayley (45:30):
It's way better.
It's like so much better.
I could have two penniesin the bank and it's
still way better with him.
Exactly.
It just doesn't matter.
Like you're happy withtwo pennies versus like 2
million and being completelyupset and sad and depressed.
Yep.
It's like, it's just your stateof mind, your state of spirit.
Yep.
Everything.
Layne (45:46):
So it's like my life.
I just feel like it's gonnalook so different from what
I ever saw it to be now thatI know him, because I'm just
open to whatever he has inhis timing and his will.
And however he wantsto use my gifts, if he
wants to use them at all.
Like that's it.
And I have so much peaceand contentment in that
because he's enough.
(46:06):
It doesn't matter whereI am or how much I have.
He's enough.
Kayley (46:10):
You know, we hear that all the time, but I
think watching people walk itout is a whole nother story.
It's easy to say those words,but I know you're living
that and I know you actuallymean it and it's true to you.
Yeah.
There was a bookI read by Reese.
It's about Reese Howells, whowas the turn of the century
theologian, intercessor.
Do you know who he is?
Mm-hmm.
Oh my goodness.
(46:31):
It's an incredible book.
It's called Intercessor.
Yeah, and it reallyrevolutionized my prayer life.
But it also showed me thatwhen you give your life to
God, Holy Spirit is goingto ask to have domain in
every part of your life.
Layne (46:45):
Every part.
Kayley (46:46):
Every part.
And it's like, well, what?
Wait, what does that mean?
Well, Holy Spirit's gonnawanna have to have domain
in your reputation.
Like you no longer aregonna care about what
other people think of you.
Mm-hmm.
And you're just gonnafocus on what Holy
Spirit's asking you to do.
Layne (47:01):
We fear God, not man anymore.
Kayley (47:02):
Yeah.
And I mean, that's been such atug of war for me because Yeah.
You know, I've beena pe people pleaser.
I've been
Layne (47:09):
me too, girl
Kayley (47:09):
terrified of what people would think of me.
Layne (47:11):
Me too.
Kayley (47:12):
Like even this podcast, I'm like, I can't
even believe I'm here.
I just aired my dirty laundry.
Like,
Layne (47:15):
come on, only God.
Yeah.
Like seriously.
Kayley (47:18):
It's nuts, but it's, it's only him.
Yeah.
But then he, he shows methat he is safe for me.
That he as my refuge will bethe place where I find joy.
Mm. It's like he gives joy tothose who take refuge in him.
He does.
So even when I'm afraid of whatman's gonna think, I can just
run to his arms and know thatlike what he says is always the
(47:39):
right thing and the true thing.
Layne (47:41):
So good.
Yeah, man.
Amen sister.
Kayley (47:45):
He's so good.
So we're coming to the endhere and I. I want you to just
kind of pop off with whateverGod puts on your heart to
encourage any listener here,like what would be your last
word in regards to boldness?
How?
How do you wanna emboldenanyone listening to
this or watching this?
Layne (48:04):
Yeah.
When it comes to boldness,it comes from a place
of more surrender.
it's crazy because on theoutside you'll see me like
preaching on airplanes andeven like just how we've
shared these stories of beingincredibly bold, but it's like.
If it weren't for thesecret place and my alone
time with the Lord, thatboldness wouldn't be there.
Yeah.
(48:24):
Because it's not me,it's him through me.
Kayley (48:26):
Yeah.
Layne (48:26):
And so if you, if you wanna be more bold in your faith
and you're like, man, like I'vebeen keeping it to myself for
too long, like, now's the timeand the harvest is so plentiful.
Everyone's looking for Jesus.
Yeah.
So just know that even if youface persecution and you're
like, man, like I dunno whatpeople are gonna think or like.
This person rejectedme so hardcore.
It's like, but stilleveryone needs Jesus.
(48:49):
We know that.
you can know that like he isLord and through getting low and
humbling yourself and seekingafter Jesus, that's naturally
gonna become part of it.
Mm.
And if you're desiring tobe more bold and sharing his
goodness, I promise you, hewill give you opportunities
and he's gonna starttugging on your heart to
(49:10):
go up and speak to people.
And in those moments,you, you get to make
that instant decision.
Am I gonna be obedient or amI gonna back away in fear?
Mm. And now's the time for youto take that step of faith into
the unknown, knowing he's gonnameet you on the other side.
Kayley (49:24):
That's so good.
And it's okay to be a fool.
Layne (49:27):
It's okay to be a fool.
Kayley (49:28):
We're never experts the first time around.
Layne (49:29):
Fools for Jesus.
Like seriously, we're, we'reall continually learning.
Yes.
It's a lifelong learningand it's for like
longevity, you know?
Kayley (49:36):
Yeah.
I mean, I had togive myself grace.
I'm like, it'sokay to be a fool.
Yeah.
That was your first timegetting up and doing that.
Layne (49:43):
Exactly.
Kayley (49:44):
Why did you think you were gonna be perfect?
Exactly.
Yep.
It's like, but the successis that you got up and you
did it and now you get to getbetter and better and better.
Yeah.
And pretty soon you'regonna be Layne Boyce open
air preaching on airplanes.
And when you are thatperson, whoever you're,
whoever's listening, when youbecome Layne Boyce open air
preaching on airplanes, giveme a holler, let me know.
Layne (50:04):
Come on
Kayley (50:05):
y'all.
Thank you so much, Layne.
Thank you so much.
Where can they findyou on social media?
Layne (50:10):
Yes.
So, um, social media platformsI'm mostly on is Instagram
and TikTok, and it's just myfirst and last name and it'll
be @layneboyce_ for Instagram.
It has like anunderscore afterwards.
And then TikTok justmy first and last name.
I love that.
Thank you so much, Layne andmy Bible Bish listeners, thank
you so much for tuning in.
Yet again, I'm so gladyou came for the tea.
(50:31):
I hope you heard the truth andeven more, I hope that you're
leaving this podcast changed.
We love you so much.
We're doing it inthe name of love.
That's right.
Amen.
Bye y'all.
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